IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-03-21

00:08 <mweltin> any one?

00:08 <ircleuser> hey mweltin

00:08 *** ircleuser is now known as nickuwo1

00:09 <mweltin> hey I don't suppose you are attached to my prject?

00:09 <mweltin> hahahaha

00:09 <mweltin> I was wondering who you were, how goes it nickuwol?

00:09 <nickuwo1> pretty good, u?

00:09 <mweltin> good but my results are taking forever to come back.

00:10 <nickuwo1> hmm, back from the client?

00:10 <mweltin> yeah

00:10 <mweltin> its been hours for a task that shoudl only take a few min.

00:10 <nickuwo1> that's no good

00:13 <mweltin> nope

00:13 <mweltin> how is your project going?

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00:15 <mweltin> hwo is your project going?

00:16 <nickuwo1> pretty good, we should be testing next week, then I'll have two months to think up some good heuristics and implement them, and then we should be golden

00:17 <Romulus> I'll fool iwth it this way!

00:17 <mweltin> is yours an in house project just for your company or is it a public project?

00:18 <nickuwo1> the plan right now is just to run it on my school's 500ish computers over the summer, but I'd like to take it public after that.

00:19 <mweltin> oh yeah I wanted to ask you about spanning trees.

00:19 <mweltin> do they have to contain every edge?

00:20 <nickuwo1> minimum spanning trees?

00:20 <mweltin> yeah, you do graph theory right?

00:20 <mweltin> your project is some graph color thing isn't it?

00:21 <nickuwo1> a bit :), no minimum spanning trees contain every point, but not every edge

00:21 <nickuwo1> i believe

00:21 <mweltin> and no cycles

00:21 <mweltin> that makes way more sense then the last description I read.

00:22 <nickuwo1> a bit obfuscated<sp?>

00:22 <mweltin> a subgraph which is a tree and connects all the vertices together.

00:23 <nickuwo1> sounds right to me.

00:24 <nickuwo1> sounds like TSP... have you checked out "Intro to algorithms"?

00:25 <mweltin> no was I supposed to?

00:25 <mweltin> I took a cs class called that once.

00:26 <nickuwo1> no, I was just curious, theres some interesting algorithms in there for constructing min span trees

00:27 <mweltin> is it a book?

00:27 <nickuwo1> yes

00:27 <mweltin> who is the author?

00:28 <nickuwo1> cormen, rivest, stein, theres also video lectures from a course taught from the book at MIT's website

00:28 <mweltin> nice

00:28 <mweltin> not that I can get video but still nice.

00:30 <mweltin> that looks like I book I have seen.

00:30 * mweltin wonders what hte first edition book cover looked like.

00:31 <nickuwo1> has a mobile on it

00:31 <mweltin> ok

00:31 <nickuwo1> wait thats the 2nd

00:33 <mweltin> I have to get ready for dinner.

00:33 <mweltin> I made a bunch more WU's I'll see how that goes.

00:33 <mweltin> did you start learing the boinc API >

00:33 <mweltin> ?

00:33 <nickuwo1> not lately, been pretty busy

00:34 <mweltin> too busy for boinc?

00:34 <mweltin> ok I can understand that.

00:34 <nickuwo1> hard to believe :)

00:34 <mweltin> I'll be back later

00:34 <mweltin> take care

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01:52 <Tank_Master> LOL

01:52 <Tank_Master> &cad

01:52 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

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02:37 <d00m1001> Ugh

02:37 <d00m1001> Climate Prediction keeps starting over

02:39 <Tank_Master> not good

02:39 <d00m1001> Yeah...

02:39 <d00m1001> And a new QMC won't start,

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02:39 <d00m1001> It took about 5 months to finish the last QMC D:

02:39 <d00m1001> Which is okay I guess..

02:39 <Tank_Master> strange

02:39 <d00m1001> Cause it gives SETI a chance to do things.

02:39 <Tank_Master> lol

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02:48 <Tank_Master> FFAA!!!!

02:48 <Tank_Master> BOINC stioed a cels WU at 98.6% compleat

02:49 <Tank_Master> and ran something else

02:49 <Tank_Master> wasted 10h of work

02:49 <Tank_Master> cels has no checkpoint

02:49 <Tank_Master> stoped*

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04:55 <mweltin> hey everybody

05:02 <CoderForLife> hey

05:02 <mweltin> ok now I know you are up early even for you

05:02 <mweltin> it's only 10pm here

05:02 <CoderForLife> normal wake-up time

05:02 <Romulus> DA also does not help much with mismatched sizes like that

05:03 <CoderForLife> I'm reading about the ICACLS utility from Vista and Server 2003

05:04 <mweltin> I'm reading about EAN (enriched air nitrox) for diving tomorrow.

05:05 <CoderForLife> that makes you a better person than me =)

05:05 <mweltin> more interesting but not better

05:07 <DerMeister> icacls? is this something like cacls on XP?

05:08 <mweltin> or somethign like google calendar on any browser?

05:08 <Romulus> So it must be about my "chores"

05:11 <CoderForLife> yes DerMeister, an "improved" version in Vista and Windows Server 2003 SP2

05:11 <DerMeister> ah... sounds nice...

05:11 <mweltin> so this is strange, oxygen can be toxic, and if you suffer oxygen toxicity, one of the first things they do for first aid is administer oxygen.

05:11 <mweltin> who knew?

05:12 <CoderForLife> get too much of a good thing, and they give you more

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05:13 <CoderForLife> flight16 has departed the gate

05:13 <mweltin> yeah strange

05:13 <CoderForLife> I'll be right back - need to grab the checkbook, and grab icalcs from our lone Vista box

05:15 <mweltin> http://www.xkcd.com/399/

05:15 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at www.xkcd.com)

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05:21 <CoderForLife> back

05:21 <CoderForLife> icacls is not particularly "grabbable" off Vista

05:25 <CoderForLife> there is an "xcacls

05:25 <CoderForLife> " install, however

05:26 * CoderForLife wonders who put the Enter key *there*?

05:29 <DerMeister> *g*

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06:20 <hawmps> 'lo

06:22 <CoderForLife> morning

06:22 <CoderForLife> w@#%ing on Good Friday?

06:22 <Romulus> I don't know it also

06:22 <CoderForLife> Rommie doesn't know where he is

06:25 <hawmps> just another day...

06:27 <CoderForLife> ah

06:31 <CoderForLife> Stephen didn't tell me where the pics are - I've looked in all the usual suspect places this morning

06:33 <desti> http://labs.mozilla.com/contests/extendfirefox3/

06:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1i9V> (at labs.mozilla.com)

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06:51 <hawmps> [NNTN] http://www.wcfcourier.com/articles/2008/03/20/news/breaking_news/doc47e2e4a0f237a752489830.txt

06:51 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1i9i> (at www.wcfcourier.com)

06:51 <hawmps> Law officers chase down stolen donut truck

06:57 <CoderForLife> lol -  should be named "WTFCourier"

06:59 <CoderForLife> bbiab

06:59 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

06:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 41.5F / 5.3C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 6.3mph / 10.1km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers early in the morning... then a slight chance of rain in the late morning and early afternoon. Cooler. High in the upper 40s. South wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northwest 10 to 20 mph with gusts (1 more message)

06:59 <wdsmia> &more

06:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: to around 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy then becoming mostly cloudy after midnight then becoming partly cloudy. Colder. Low in the lower 30s. North wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

07:06 * KathrynM is back (gone 07:26:41)

07:25 <hawmps> 'lo K

07:27 <KathrynM> hiya hawmps

07:40 <CoderForLife> back

07:40 <CoderForLife> wattup KathrynM

07:40 <KathrynM> holy cow...  I've got an orbit wu estimated at 63 hours

07:41 <KathrynM> waz up CoderForLife

07:41 * CoderForLife looks at orbit

07:42 * KathrynM wonders if she'll have the patience to attempt to install Linux on the other laptop without a gui

07:42 <CoderForLife> I never get any orbit Wus

07:42 <CoderForLife> are they sending them?

07:42 <CoderForLife> always "no work"

07:42 <KathrynM> linux only afaik

07:43 <CoderForLife> ah

07:43 * KathrynM also has some long lhc

07:43 <CoderForLife> the only machine I have checking is this 'doze box

07:44 <CoderForLife> my LHCs are about 8 hours

07:44 <KathrynM> yeah, mine about 7

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07:48 <DerMeister> 9h and 12h

08:08 <hawmps> didn't get any..

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08:19 <KathrynM> whoa.  I'm #1 in my signup class at orbit.  That won't last for long, Zombies in there too ;)

08:20 <KathrynM> even stranger, I'm #1 in the US.

08:20 <KathrynM> I should screen shot that.

08:30 <CoderForLife> for posterity

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08:30 <DerMeister> You are even #1 in the complete list :P

08:30 <CoderForLife> or for posterior

08:30 <DerMeister> http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/top_users.php?sort_by=total_credit

08:30 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1i$j> (at orbit.psi.edu)

08:31 * CoderForLife adds orbit to linux boxes

08:32 <DerMeister> ^^

08:32 <DerMeister> Damn... Primegrid is still down...

08:35 <CoderForLife> running my first orbit WU

08:36 <CoderForLife> I've been signed up for a *long* time, waiting for WUs

08:38 <KathrynM> They're definitely longer now...

08:38 <KathrynM> last batch was running a bit over 30 minutes

08:39 <KathrynM> this one is almost to an hour and not yet at 3% done

08:39 <CoderForLife> what?  my first one is 176 hours

08:40 <CoderForLife> "SurveySimulator 1.09"

08:41 <KathrynM> yup

08:43 <CoderForLife> ok

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08:45 * desti catches an orbit WU \o/

08:46 <KathrynM> woo hoo

08:46 <CoderForLife> after I get QMC to pass 1 million, I plan to switch over more to orbit

08:47 <KathrynM> I'm looking forward to 750K overall

08:47 <KathrynM> Should be somewhere around May 10th according to BoincStats

08:48 <hawmps> geez... got one orbit unit..

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08:51 <wdsmia_w> my queues are over filled with LHC no room for orbits :(

08:53 <CoderForLife> aww  it sux 2 b u

08:54 <wdsmia_w> lol

08:58 <hawmps> jinx -

08:58 <hawmps> was just going to say that..

08:58 <hawmps> for wd - lhc means luser hogs credits

09:01 <CoderForLife> not an accident - I picked up the phrase from you

09:01 <CoderForLife> sorry - should have said "(c) xcamel"

09:02 <CoderForLife> I think I'm going to wander off and act like I want to take a nap

09:02 <CoderForLife> bbl

09:03 <hawmps> a bit early for that..

09:31 <Soul_keeper> is today a holiday ?

09:32 <hawmps> for some it seems..

09:32 <Soul_keeper> what holiday ?

09:33 <Soul_keeper> c'mon i'm late for work, i need my excuse ...

09:33 <hawmps> Benito Juarez birthday..

09:34 <Soul_keeper> "good friday"

09:34 <Soul_keeper> later

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09:50 <CoderForLife> All Fridays are good, just some are good enough to be "Good Friday"

10:03 <KathrynM> word of warning.  when orbit says waiting to run, it's lying.  it's still running

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10:57 <hawmps> winds finally dying down a bit...

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11:46 <CoderForLife> PM hawmps

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11:58 <CoderForLife> bbl

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12:56 * Rookie_69 is partaking of the usual day-off drudgery... like trying to find the kitchen counter or living room floor/furniture.

13:06 <CoderForLife> speaking of wind out of my sails...

13:06 <CoderForLife> hello Rookie_69

13:07 <Rookie_69> Hi, CoderForLife.

13:08 <CoderForLife> you off for Good Friday?

13:09 <Rookie_69> OK.

13:09 * CoderForLife scratches his head

13:10 <Rookie_69> I'm off for the annual friday off in March.

13:10 <Rookie_69> Call it what you will.

13:10 <CoderForLife> hmm

13:10 * CoderForLife watches the reading on the #boinc attitude meter

13:11 * Rookie_69 thinks the calendar calls it Good Friday.

13:11 <Rookie_69> Any friday off is a good one.

13:11 * CoderForLife sees the needle first climb then drop a little

13:11 <CoderForLife> yep

13:11 <Romulus> but at least I could listen

13:12 <CoderForLife> listen, to your calendar?

13:12 * Rookie_69 thinks Romulus shouldn't listen as much.

13:12 <CoderForLife> ah, you must have a talking calendar!

13:13 <Rookie_69> Not intentionally...

13:13 <CoderForLife> your calendar talks randomly?

13:14 <Rookie_69> But sometimes inanimate objects talk to me...

13:14 * Rookie_69 talks randomly.

13:15 <CoderForLife> I have that problem, until someone broke in and stole all my talking inanimate objects, and replaced them with exact duplicates

13:15 <Rookie_69> Lol.

13:15 <CoderForLife> my wife came in and I tried to explain it to her - she said "do I know you?"

13:16 <Rookie_69> Apparently not, if you had to explain.

13:16 <CoderForLife> maybe someone replaced her as well

13:17 <Rookie_69> Aliens in my closet/bedsheets?

13:17 <CoderForLife> actually - that was a poor rendition of material I stole from Steven Wright, the comedian

13:18 <Rookie_69> Lol.

13:18 <Rookie_69> "Paraphrased"...

13:19 * Rookie_69 wonders if he can burn out motor in shredder by stuffing in more than six sheets at a time...

13:21 * Rookie_69 wonders why he is finding documents dated 2000...

13:22 <CoderForLife> lol

13:22 <CoderForLife> "I went into this restaurant that serves you breakfast at any time, so I ordered French toast during the Renaissance."

13:22 <Rookie_69> LOl.

13:22 <Rookie_69> Lol.

13:22 <CoderForLife> "If it's a penny for your thoughts, and you put your two cents in, someone's making a penny."

13:23 <Rookie_69> Big bangers and mash on the menu?

13:23 <CoderForLife> here it is - "When I woke up, everything in my apartment had been stolen...and replaced with exact duplicates."

13:24 <Rookie_69> Paranoia may destroy ya...

13:24 <Rookie_69> Sounds almost half familiar.

13:24 <CoderForLife> "I saw a subliminal advertising executive, but only for a second."

13:27 <Rookie_69> Subliminal advertising is gone the way of the dinosaur... Now, advertisers just try to insult you.

13:27 <Rookie_69> ... or your intelligence...

13:29 <Rookie_69> I've missed the second half of several shows because I refused to be bombarded by the sponsors.

13:31 <Rookie_69> "If I had my life to live over, I'd live it over a brothel."

13:32 <Rookie_69> Somebody keeps binking my dreers...:-(

13:36 <Rookie_69> I wonder if I have enough NSF cheques from a certain former employer to paper one wall or should I just shred them?

13:39 <Rookie_69> The bankruptcy hearing netted me exactly $0.

13:39 <Rookie_69> Shred.

13:48 <Rookie_69> Sometimes, I think an old fashioned woodstove is better than a shredder for destroying documents. The rest of the time, I am sure of it.

13:51 <Rookie_69> Knit one, purl two, tear out three...

13:54 <Rookie_69> I spend at least as much time clearing jams as I do shredding paper.

14:01 * Rookie_69 is trying to find parts that fell into (full) shred catcher.

14:03 <hawmps> crunch & grind

14:04 <desti> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/swift/bursts/brightest_grb.html

14:04 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iBK> (at www.nasa.gov)

14:06 <Rookie_69> Imagine that... It works again... or seems to.

14:08 <Rookie_69> ... and all fingers at least as intact as they were before opening shredder.

14:11 * Rookie_69 wanders off to find more ancient documents to shred...

14:15 <Rookie_69> Hmm... ancient artifact with serial port plug on one end and PS2 plug on the other...

14:16 <Rookie_69> ... and small rodent icon on the side.

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14:20 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Hardcover novels won't fit into shredder... I guess I'll keep them.

14:20 <Romulus> yes I understand the idea from

14:23 <Tank_Master> from...

14:23 <Tank_Master> from what?

14:23 <Tank_Master> *stupid bot*

14:24 <Rookie_69> There is no such thing as a stupid bot... only a stupid answer... from a BOT!!!

14:26 <Rookie_69> ;-)

14:29 <Rookie_69> Practically untouched manual for long-dead network hub... that's shredder material too.

14:32 <Rookie_69> Soundblaster manual... I don't think I own one.

14:36 <Rookie_69> No easter eggs found among shredded paper yet :-(

14:38 <Rookie_69> Calendar pages from 2004???

14:40 * Rookie_69 needs to clean up more often... no,

14:40 * Rookie_69 needs to clean up.

14:54 <hawmps> for you math freaks..

14:54 <hawmps> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/966679.html

14:54 <Romulus> Title: Israeli ex-security guard solves 38-year-old math problem - Haaretz - Israel News (at www.haaretz.com)

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15:24 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

15:24 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 55F / 12.8C | Humidity: 10% | Pressure: 30.35in / 1027.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 58 to 64. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 23 to 31. Light winds.; Saturday - Sunny. Highs 57 to 63. Light winds becoming northeast around 15 mph in the afternoon.;

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15:28 <J-23> Hello!

15:28 <J-23> &help

15:28 <Romulus> J-23: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

15:28 <J-23> &help whatis

15:28 <Romulus> J-23: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.

15:29 <J-23> &list

15:29 <Romulus> J-23: Admin, Alias, Amazon, Anonymous, AutoMode, Babelfish, BadWords, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Config, Ctcp, Currency, CyborgName, Darcs, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Format, Freenode, Games, Google, Herald, Infobot, Insult, Internet, Karma, Lart, Lookup, Markov, Math, Memo, Misc, MoobotFactoids, News, NickCapture, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Postman, Praise, Protector, Quote, QuoteGrabs, RSS, (1 more message)

15:32 <BadBarbarian> if you mess up the bot Xcamel will be mad

15:32 <BadBarbarian> j-23 &more

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15:33 <J-23> How can I create my own project on BOINC platform?

15:36 <CoderForLife> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CreateProjectOutline

15:36 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/g-7> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

15:36 <J-23> thanks

15:38 <CoderForLife> np - just a starting point

15:38 <CoderForLife> and welcome to #boinc

15:41 <CoderForLife> &weather 45140

15:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 60.1F / 15.6C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 10.4mph / 16.7km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny. Highs around 60. South winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of rain...mainly after midnight. Lows in the upper 30s. South winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west after (1 more message)

15:42 <CoderForLife> it is bee-uuu-tee-full outside

15:42 <CoderForLife> &more

15:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: midnight. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain and snow showers... mainly in the morning. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 11:00 AM EDT on March 22, 2008;

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15:50 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

15:50 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 43.9F / 6.6C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy...cooler. High in the upper 40s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the north in the afternoon. Gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Colder. Low around 30. North wind 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the (1 more message)

15:50 <wdsmia_w> &more

15:50 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: evening.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;

15:50 <CoderForLife> go home

15:51 <wdsmia_w> one more hr and I will

15:51 <CoderForLife> they're coming for you - quick, use the scaffolding

15:56 <xcamel> 'lo

15:57 <xcamel> cfl - &wx is now the shortcut

15:59 <Tank_Master> wx?

16:05 <xcamel> weather

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16:39 <hickop> hey

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16:55 <CoderForLife> re-hi

16:55 <CoderForLife> oh cool

16:55 <mweltin> hey clf

16:56 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.8F / 17.1C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Becoming mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of rain. Lows in the upper 30s. West winds 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of snow showers in the morning...then a a chance of rain showers. (1 more message)

16:56 <CoderForLife> hey chief resident of A.S.

16:56 <CoderForLife> &more

16:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Colder with lows in the mid 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 11:00 AM EDT on March 22, 2008;

16:57 <CoderForLife> did you do some diving today, mweltin?

16:57 <mweltin> that will be later, but yes I'll be diving today.

16:57 <mweltin> it's only 10am

17:02 <CoderForLife> s/did/will/g

17:02 <mweltin> hey I met a guy whoes name was "vi"

17:02 <mweltin> its spelled vai but still.

17:02 <mweltin> it made me laugh

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17:03 <CoderForLife> oh wow

17:03 <TheGasGiant> g'day CFL

17:03 <CoderForLife> look who just showed up

17:03 <mweltin> I haev to learn how to set my dive computer for nitrox before I go.

17:03 <CoderForLife> hey Paul

17:04 <CoderForLife> yeah, you mentioned you were readin up on that

17:04 <TheGasGiant> I'm on vacation down the coast and thought i'd install irc and have a chat over my cell phone

17:04 <CoderForLife> you technoweenie

17:04 <mweltin> you are on vacation and you decide to irc here?  Yes uber-techno-weenie

17:04 <mweltin> where are you ?

17:04 <Romulus> I guess you are upper fayl, mweltin

17:04 <TheGasGiant> lol...i try to do my bit

17:05 <CoderForLife> over a cell phone, no less

17:05 <mweltin> LOL

17:05 <CoderForLife> showing your bits, I'd say

17:05 <TheGasGiant> Philip Island in Victoria, Australia...about a 1.5 hr drive from home

17:05 <mweltin> just don't byte off more than you can chew.

17:05 <Romulus> I disagree with zombie

17:05 <CoderForLife> you opinion doesn't matter Rommie

17:05 <TheGasGiant> mind you it took closer to 3 hrs to get here due to traffic

17:06 <mweltin> Nice I'm not all that far from you then. (american Samoa)

17:06 <CoderForLife> last vacaction before winter?

17:06 <mweltin> ouch

17:06 <TheGasGiant> lol...

17:06 <CoderForLife> er vacation

17:06 <TheGasGiant> yeah, last week the temp was 40C, now it's 20C

17:06 <xcamel> 'lo Paul...

17:07 <TheGasGiant> sucks for swimming in the ocean...heya Jay

17:07 <xcamel> how goes it..

17:07 <TheGasGiant> all well..sort off...latency sucks

17:07 <CoderForLife> how much cell phone bandwidth do you have?

17:08 <hickop> hey, got a problem with my boinc process priority. even if i set it to low priority it will take at least 50% of my cpu, any idea why ?

17:08 <TheGasGiant> says 12mbps, but I think it's good ol' dial up speed

17:08 <CoderForLife> a h  g o t  t o  l o v e  d i a l u p

17:08 <TheGasGiant> hickop, that's what boinc does.  it takes all your spare cpu cycles

17:09 <xcamel> iow... it takes all the ones you're not using...

17:09 <hickop> TheGasGiant: sure but when i run other apps that may needs 100% cpu to run good why dont boinc set is cpu needs to 0% ?

17:09 <TheGasGiant> CFL it took 15 minutes to download the 2.7MB for this irc client install

17:10 <CoderForLife> gee

17:10 <xcamel> hic - it will, and does.

17:11 <xcamel> geez.. I thought orbit was going to have some real work for once..

17:11 <hickop> xcamel: it doesnt here :/ still 50% cpu used at minimum :/ so other apps are laggy

17:11 <TheGasGiant> i run it 24/7 and don't see a problem when running other cpu intensive programs

17:12 <xcamel> you may think that's what's happening - I'm betting not.

17:12 <hickop> xcamel: i'm not thinking, i'm seeing it with htop :)

17:12 <xcamel> I run all my boxes full bore with boinc, and never have a problem..

17:13 <hickop> its nice level is at 19 and it still take my CPU :'(

17:14 <xcamel> sure it's not disc access problems?

17:14 <CoderForLife> it should give it up when another process wants C

17:14 <CoderForLife> PU

17:14 <hickop> but it doesnt ...

17:14 <CoderForLife> I have a quad processor, all CPUs running at 100%

17:15 <CoderForLife> all nice 19

17:15 <mweltin> sweet!! my results match accross platforms!

17:15 <CoderForLife> congrats mweltin

17:15 <hickop> are all ur boinc processes user & groups named "boinc" ?

17:15 <mweltin> thanks I'm ready to do some dammage, after the dive of course.

17:15 <TheGasGiant> a great result mweltin

17:16 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:16 <TheGasGiant> heya doug

17:16 <wdsmia> *lo paul

17:16 <mweltin> hickop, mine are, but that is by design, and I'm runing a project not a client, so I'm not sure if that helps you.

17:16 <mweltin> wdsmia!

17:17 <TheGasGiant> bbiab....coffee

17:17 <xcamel> interesting:

17:17 <wdsmia> *lo mweltin

17:17 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080321.html

17:17 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 March 21 - Where is HD 189733 (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

17:25 <TheGasGiant> &ping

17:25 <Romulus> pong

17:25 <TheGasGiant> wow..quiet

17:26 <CoderForLife> huh?

17:26 <TheGasGiant> i've got no chat for 8 minutes

17:26 <CoderForLife> I'm Coding =)

17:27 <TheGasGiant> Coding?  lol

17:27 <CoderForLife> yup

17:27 <CoderForLife> been working outside all day

17:27 <TheGasGiant> floods not effect you?

17:27 *** J-23 has left #boinc

17:27 <CoderForLife> ROFLMAO

17:28 <CoderForLife> you need to check in from time to time =)

17:28 <hickop> here is screenshot showing my sitution: http://hickop.free.fr/.hickop/showpict.php?last=2008-03-21-222348_1280x1024_scrot.png

17:28 <TheGasGiant> yup..i do

17:28 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iE6> (at hickop.free.fr)

17:28 <Romulus> crap this is for validation, correct

17:28 <hickop> higlighted process may need more CPU but as u can see boinc i blocking 50 % of it

17:31 <TheGasGiant> slow to view in this dialup speed state I'm in

17:32 * CoderForLife lives in the state of confusion

17:32 <CoderForLife> I'll show you some pics when you have some bandwidth TGG

17:33 <TheGasGiant> when i get back (next Friday) I'll drop in again

17:33 <hickop> could it come from my boinc version ? 5.10.28

17:34 <CoderForLife> I can't really read your screen hickop

17:34 <CoderForLife> what priority and nice is boinc itself running at?

17:34 <Rookie_69> Cincinnati, Confusion, USA???

17:34 <CoderForLife> mine is 20 and 0

17:34 <hickop> u can zoom it by clocking buttons bottom of the screen

17:34 <CoderForLife> my 4 WU processes have the same priority and nice as yours

17:35 <TheGasGiant> boinc shouldn't be taking many cpu cycles, just the project app should be taking the cycles

17:35 <CoderForLife> my browser seems to be auto-sizing it

17:35 <TheGasGiant> i'm going to head off..son wants to play on my laptop

17:35 <hickop> yes , its not boinc himseld , its project WU that is taking the 50%

17:35 <CoderForLife> OK  stop back soon

17:35 <TheGasGiant> i hope he doesn't break it

17:35 <TheGasGiant> ;)

17:35 <CoderForLife> lol

17:36 <CoderForLife> he is his father's son....

17:36 <TheGasGiant> at least I can chat via me cell

17:36 <TheGasGiant> *my*

17:36 <TheGasGiant> cya ace

17:36 <CoderForLife> cya

17:36 <TheGasGiant> bye

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17:37 <hickop> http://hickop.free.fr/2008-03-21-222348_1280x1024_scrot.png direct link so it wont resize

17:37 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iE:> (at hickop.free.fr)

17:38 <CoderForLife> you might try -daemon on your boinc process

17:38 <CoderForLife> you might be running as a foreground app

17:39 <Romulus> the .sh you can install X

17:39 <hickop> i'm running it as a daemon

17:39 <hickop> whit /etc/init.d/boinc

17:39 <CoderForLife> your command line doesn't say that

17:39 <CoderForLife> no -daemon parm

17:40 <hickop> hum

17:40 <CoderForLife> dunno - just asking...

17:40 <CoderForLife> I run with -daemon

17:40 <CoderForLife> and -return_results_immediately

17:41 <CoderForLife> as well as the remote RPC GUI parm

17:41 <hickop> with boinc_cmd ?

17:44 <hickop> no --daemon flag is set in he startp script

17:44 * Rookie_69 doesn't even remember how he got BOINC to run on linux box.

17:47 <CoderForLife> I just start it myself

17:49 <mweltin> same here.

17:49 <CoderForLife> ./boinc -with_remote_gui_rpc -return_results_immediately -daemon

17:49 <CoderForLife> YMMV

17:49 <CoderForLife> been doing that for years

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17:51 <xcamel> PoV said -return_results_immediately has been disabled for a while now..

17:51 <CoderForLife> oh well

17:51 <Rookie_69> Umm... I click on "boincmgr"...

17:51 <CoderForLife> no harm

17:51 <xcamel> ir was handy though..

17:51 <CoderForLife> yup

17:54 <hickop> okay i edited script config files so it takes daemon flag on start ...

17:55 <hickop> but it is the same :'(

18:00 <CoderForLife> ick

18:01 <CoderForLife> sorry - my boinc is running at pr 20 ni 0

18:01 <CoderForLife> yours is/was 39/19

18:02 <CoderForLife> thought maybe -daemon might be involved

18:02 <hickop> i did try to renice to level 0 too

18:03 <CoderForLife> yes, good

18:03 <hickop> but still the same :)

18:05 <hickop> was thinking it come from the boinc group

18:06 <hickop> maybe processes are shared through groups

18:06 <hickop> so 50% for boinc group and 50% for hickop

18:06 <hickop> but i dont know how is it really working

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18:10 <CoderForLife> I dunno - you're beyond my experience - sorry

18:11 <CoderForLife> seems like basic processes stuff, though

18:11 <xcamel> the boinc coders don't even know how it **really** works

18:12 <hickop> i think i pointed out the problem !

18:12 <xcamel> best not to 'overthink it'

18:12 <hickop> i did change user of boinc to root

18:12 <hickop> so now its worse xD

18:12 <hickop> boinc will have now 66% of use minimum

18:12 <xcamel> root is a more privileged user

18:12 <hickop> yea thats why

18:13 <hickop> so maybe boinc is too privilegied

18:13 <xcamel> boinc also seems to need some time to adapt to your system...

18:14 <xcamel> usually a few days to  'settle in' depending on what projects you run

18:14 <xcamel> what distro, hic?

18:14 <hickop> gentoo

18:14 <CoderForLife> my boinc runs as root

18:14 <xcamel> 32 bit?

18:14 <hickop> 64

18:14 <xcamel> ditto, cfl

18:15 <xcamel> oh.. thare's part of it..

18:15 <hickop> Oo ?

18:15 <xcamel> boinc loves the 64 bit horsepower..

18:16 <xcamel> I have 2 identical core 2 qads - one 32bit, one 64bit FC8

18:16 <CoderForLife> does 64-bit Linux favor 64-bit apps over 32-bit apps?

18:16 <xcamel> the 64 bit box puts out more than double of the 32 bit one..

18:17 <CoderForLife> from a process management point of view?

18:17 <xcamel> but still running 100% cpu, nice 19

18:17 <hickop> but my processor is still not sufficient with those 50% missing :)

18:17 <CoderForLife> again - we're talking priority and nice, I think

18:18 <xcamel> what are you running it on?

18:18 <CoderForLife> me?

18:18 <xcamel> hic

18:19 <hickop> not much, teamspeak server, video platform, music player , wine server to run windows apps

18:19 <xcamel> I mean the cpu..

18:19 <CoderForLife> what processor/box

18:19 <hickop> but what is making suffer to my distro is when i'm compiling

18:19 <hickop> ho :)

18:19 <hickop> amd 3200+

18:20 <xcamel> well...yeah...

18:20 * CoderForLife looks back at his Code

18:20 <xcamel> gcc and boinc together is going to bring your box right to it's knees...

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18:20 <efc> Moo.

18:21 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

18:21 <Rookie_69> ooM.

18:29 <xcamel> arrested irc

18:30 <efc> What, me? No no, she said she was 18, I promise

18:30 <efc> Oh umm disregard that

18:31 <hickop> tried x86 client too , the same ! Oo

18:31 * hickop feel unlucky

18:34 <efc> Pooey on these low interest rates

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18:43 <xcamel> a 3% loan is useless if nobody can qualify..

18:43 <hickop> HAHA !

18:43 <hickop> found it

18:44 <efc> I mean, the rates they pay me.. they stink

18:44 <hickop> now i'm running boinc as hickop user and it works !

18:45 <efc> down to ~3%

18:45 <xcamel> good for you, hic

18:46 <hickop> now i need to find why boinc user seam to have more privilege

18:46 <hickop> :)

18:47 <Rookie_69> BOINC is more important than compiling, and box knows it.

18:47 <Rookie_69> ;-)

18:48 <hickop> but if boinc doesnt let it compile, it wont compile boinc ether :D

18:49 <hickop> omg i just broke my brain

18:49 <Rookie_69> Welcome to my world.

18:52 <CoderForLife> Welcome to the real world, Neo.

18:57 <xcamel> red, or green?

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19:04 <tricaric> hello

19:04 <tricaric> users of orbit seem to have problems suspending the app... is there something special I need to include in my app to allow this?

19:05 <xcamel> I need to get some work for it to figure that out...

19:05 <Rookie_69> Hi, Pasquale.

19:05 <xcamel> are you the 'orbit guiy' ?

19:05 <tricaric> ;-)

19:06 <xcamel> er guy even?

19:06 <tricaric> yep

19:06 <xcamel> cool..

19:06 <xcamel> sadly, no work... nothing to suspend...

19:06 <tricaric> only linux apps for now

19:07 <xcamel> most all of mine are linux

19:07 <Rookie_69> Hmm...

19:07 <xcamel> dual and quads

19:07 <xcamel> and one 64 bit

19:07 <tricaric> there are 12 results ready to be sent out right now

19:08 <xcamel> getting 0 tasks

19:08 <tricaric> linux 32 bits?

19:08 <xcamel> yup

19:10 <xcamel> host 2321

19:10 <Rookie_69> Linux box now connected :-)

19:11 <xcamel> only 2286, and 2289 got work out of 10 hosts got work

19:11 <Rookie_69> Sez no work:-(

19:11 <tricaric> ok

19:11 <xcamel> ditto.

19:12 <xcamel> check my hostlist (xcamel) I put some good horsepower on it..

19:13 <xcamel> only 2 winboxes

19:14 <tricaric> creating more wu right now... please try again

19:14 * efc feels as sorry for xcamel's lack of work as as rookie does for efc's lack of interest

19:15 <tricaric> about 40 ready now

19:15 <xcamel> 2 minute countdown..

19:16 <xcamel> nope.. nothing in the pipe.

19:16 <Rookie_69> No luck here.

19:17 <tricaric> for some reason, it always takes a few mins between wu creation and wu sent to clients...

19:17 <xcamel> such is the life of a project manager..

19:17 <xcamel> kyzyl coming up on retry..

19:18 <xcamel> nada.

19:20 <xcamel> did get some work I didn't need though..

19:20 <Rookie_69> At least now I know why I didn't get any work when others did. :-)

19:21 <tricaric> try now!

19:21 <tricaric> I see it's sending out right now... still 30 available..

19:21 <xcamel> ok.. supercaml just grabbed 9

19:21 <Rookie_69> Got some :-)

19:22 <xcamel> kyzyl got 1

19:22 <Rookie_69> ... do we need to try suspending app now?

19:22 <tricaric> I guess so... I need to find out why the suspend doesn't work, and the app keeps running in background

19:23 <xcamel> lol - still getting the apps for sc

19:24 <xcamel> your deadline time is too short..

19:24 <Rookie_69> Suspend and comp time kept counting and SETI app restarted... resume and orbit is now waiting to run.

19:24 <xcamel> but I have 2 running on kyzyl now..

19:25 <Romulus> anybody know anything about a foot, BB

19:25 <xcamel> I suspended, but they are still running at 100%

19:26 <xcamel> checking other box...

19:26 <Rookie_69> Hmm... orbit WU is still working too...

19:27 <xcamel> looks like the app is not getting the sleep command

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19:28 <xcamel> tricaric: ?

19:29 <xcamel> oh boy.. 4 apps running on 2 cores....

19:30 <xcamel> that's weird...

19:30 <CoderForLife> yeah - I can also report that orbit doesn't suspend

19:30 <tricaric> ok...

19:30 <tricaric> so, what should I do?

19:31 <xcamel> check the sleep command sent via the manager

19:32 <xcamel> I'll be damned if seti and survey aren't running right together...

19:33 <tricaric> I'm trying to find out about this in the BOINC docs

19:33 <xcamel> and DA said this was not possible...

19:34 <xcamel> where is PoV when you need him...

19:35 <xcamel> http://lledgerock.com/kyzyl3clip.png

19:35 <xcamel> shows the procs..

19:36 <tricaric> hey, you running everything as root!?

19:36 <xcamel> shush..

19:36 <tricaric> be careful

19:37 <xcamel> fear not

19:37 <xcamel> been doing this a very long time..

19:37 <KathrynM> mornin'

19:37 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:37 <tricaric> hello

19:38 <KathrynM> just finished catching up

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19:38 <xcamel> and de-germing yourself...

19:38 <xcamel> for the crumb-crunchers...

19:38 <KathrynM> hickop, I run boinc as a daemon under it's own user and I don't see what you're seeing.

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19:39 <hickop> KathrynM: yea my case is really strange, i did not figured it out yet why

19:40 <KathrynM> I agree.  But I'm only slightly more than clueless when it comes to Linux :)

19:41 <xcamel> LOL >> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2008/03/21/2008-03-21_gun_paint_company_taunts_mayor_bloomberg.html

19:41 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iFF> (at www.nydailynews.com)

19:41 <KathrynM> and yeah, I'm degermed.  But I think my cell has gone nuts.

19:41 <KathrynM> It gives a wakeup call M-F at 830

19:42 <KathrynM> Today is Saturday

19:42 <KathrynM> I got a wakeup call

19:42 <xcamel> infected cell phone..

19:42 <xcamel> sheesh..

19:42 <KathrynM> I even checked to see if I had changed it for some reason.

19:42 <KathrynM> But nope.

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19:44 <xcamel> more giants of the deep...

19:44 <xcamel> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080321/D8VHQ0MG0.html

19:44 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iFI> (at apnews.myway.com)

19:49 <xcamel> 2.5' starfish??

19:50 <xcamel> 12' tentacles on a jellyfish?

19:52 <Rookie_69> Oxygen rocks!

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19:55 <xcamel> I guess..

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20:02 <nickuwo1> anyone know any good IDE's on MAC? or even just a good C compiler?

20:02 <nickuwo1> prolly get gcc for mac?

20:03 <KathrynM> I think you can nickuwo1

20:03 <KathrynM> I'm pretty sure I've seen other people saying they've compiled with gcc

20:03 <nickuwo1> ok thanks!

20:03 <xcamel> still here tricaric?

20:04 <xcamel> if suspend is set, and wu's finish, new wu's will not start..

20:05 <xcamel> I wondered if that would happen...

20:05 <KathrynM> how'd ya get a wu to finish?

20:05 <KathrynM> what are you running?  a 10 GHz monster?

20:05 <KathrynM> :)

20:07 <Rookie_69> Even mine is at 53%...

20:07 <Rookie_69> ... while waiting to run...

20:08 <KathrynM> yikes.  I'm just a hair under 35% after 9.5 hours

20:08 <tricaric> I'm still here

20:08 <Rookie_69> New Wu's must be small just for us.

20:08 <KathrynM> sniff sniff

20:08 <KathrynM> Mine got interrupted in the middle of the night when logrotate ran

20:09 <xcamel> supercaml finished them in 38 minutes..

20:09 <KathrynM> But CPU time looks right

20:09 <KathrynM> See that's how the last batch was for me.

20:09 <Romulus> The Final Front Ear is 5th

20:09 <KathrynM> They were about 32 minutues

20:09 <KathrynM> no Romulus, we're #1

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20:09 <tricaric> there are several different WUs... some take 1 hour, some 1 week...

20:09 <KathrynM> great.........

20:09 <KathrynM> lol

20:10 <xcamel> nice mix..

20:10 <KathrynM> the 1 hour ones, is that were the earth is destroyed?

20:10 <xcamel> now go make more...

20:10 <xcamel> :-)

20:10 <KathrynM> (like the 1 second lhc units where the beam crashes into the wall)

20:10 <xcamel> the 0.000625 second units..

20:10 <KathrynM> oh yeah

20:11 <KathrynM> darn wrong window

20:11 <xcamel> right next to the brand new baby black hole...

20:11 <KathrynM> what do we need the lhc for.  the place I work is a baby black hole

20:12 <xcamel> I'm soooo not going to comment on that....

20:12 <KathrynM> lol

20:12 * xcamel sticks head right in the sand

20:12 <KathrynM> hmmm...

20:13 <KathrynM> I've got about 6 hours before I run out of work on the other compy and attempt a non-gui install of Fedora on the other laptop

20:13 <KathrynM> shoot me if I ever buy ati again

20:13 <xcamel> got one - embedded on the mb of that xeon machine..

20:13 <xcamel> ati drivers stink

20:14 <KathrynM> if it works (and I don't throw it out the window) it'll be a miracle

20:15 <Rookie_69> Bedroom may be slightly less full, but living room is a lot more crowded... Why doesn't stuff just go away?

20:16 <Rookie_69> Shredded paper takes up a lot more space.

20:21 <xcamel> burns fast too..

20:22 * Rookie_69 tosses lit matches...

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20:24 <Ageless> so... that was a laborious thing to do. Not having been on IRC for over a year I have totally forgotten how these things work. :)

20:24 * KathrynM waves hello

20:25 <DerMeister> hi Ageless

20:25 <KathrynM> tricaric, seti is open source

20:25 <wdsmia> *lo Ageless

20:25 <Ageless> hello all

20:25 <KathrynM> and it should suspend correctly (or else you'd hear massive screaming on their forums)

20:26 <Rookie_69> Jordan!\

20:27 <xcamel> 'lo Jord..

20:28 <Ageless> crappy chatzilla, no option to set Enter as the send button.

20:28 <xcamel> party night out on the lunatic fringe...

20:28 <CoderForLife> first time greetings, Ageless

20:28 <xcamel> must be a full moon...

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20:28 * CoderForLife was feeling an urge to howl

20:29 * xcamel grabbs the shotgun..

20:29 <CoderForLife> lol

20:29 * Rookie_69 wonders who threw all the small pieces of paper around the shredder.

20:29 * Ageless notices it's still much the same crew around here.

20:29 <Rookie_69> Nope... we're all diffident.

20:29 <Rookie_69> ... different?

20:29 <xcamel> but the names are changed to protect... aw forget it...

20:30 <Ageless> lol

20:30 <CoderForLife> you are diffident Rookie_69

20:30 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:31 <Ageless> aren't you about 102 by now?

20:31 <xcamel> he won't tell..

20:31 <Rookie_69> Feel like it.

20:32 <CoderForLife> IQ score?

20:32 <Ageless> or are you Junior? ;)

20:33 <xcamel> so hows everything in the north end of nowhere?

20:33 <Ageless> everything's peachy around here.

20:33 <xcamel> any sign of spring yet?

20:34 <Ageless> last I peeked out the window it snowed. brrr.

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20:34 <Rookie_69> Don't peek any more.

20:34 <xcamel> still mighty cold here too..

20:34 <Ageless> no, I let the curtains down again.

20:35 <Ageless> all winter without snow and then when Spring is supposed to have started it snows.

20:35 <xcamel> we had a pretty big winter overall..

20:36 <Rookie_69> Little white things drifting past streetlight, but not actually hitting ground.

20:36 <CoderForLife> been pretty exciting for me...

20:37 <Ageless> seeing how everyone is still here, I suppose all of you are still in good health and just glued to your computers, doing nothing else than stare at the screen all day?

20:37 * xcamel has no comment

20:39 <Rookie_69> xcamel is crunching my orbit WU on opteron twice...

20:40 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, remind me how to verify the sha1sum of an iso

20:40 <Ageless> and getting your credit as well?

20:40 <Rookie_69> Probably...

20:41 <Ageless> the status quo has returned

20:41 <Rookie_69> http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/workunit.php?wuid=1815

20:41 <Romulus> Title: Workunit details (at orbit.psi.edu)

20:41 * CoderForLife starts chanting - "My mind to your mind..."

20:42 <Ageless> all I got for Orbit are 20 download failures from the time of startup. :(

20:43 <CoderForLife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha1sum

20:43 <Romulus> Title: sha1sum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

20:43 * CoderForLife continues - "Your mind to Google..."

20:43 <xcamel> lol Glenn

20:44 <KathrynM> thanks much

20:44 <CoderForLife> np

20:44 <KathrynM> I didn't think of asking wikipedia

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20:45 <xcamel> thanks for reminding me how bad SciFiFriday sucks right now..

20:45 <CoderForLife> that's why "my mind to your mind"

20:45 <Rookie_69> Lost: one mind. If found, please return to...

20:46 <CoderForLife> I'm on the Couch, watching the War Channel

20:46 <xcamel> lost mind... and not looking for it...

20:46 <CoderForLife> I mean History Channel

20:46 <xcamel> watching 'ax men' ??

20:46 <CoderForLife> Learning how to sink a destroyer

20:46 <xcamel> battle 360

20:47 <CoderForLife> that's on later

20:47 <CoderForLife> and Coding

20:48 <Rookie_69> No coding aloud.

20:48 <Rookie_69> (allowed, just not aloud...)

20:48 <Rookie_69> ;-)

20:49 <CoderForLife> I'm actually making excellent progress

20:50 <Ageless> lay mine, wait.

20:51 <xcamel> oh there is a good rimshot line in that one...

20:51 <Ageless> oh damn, forgot to tape the Daily Show Global Edition

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20:52 <Ageless> oh well, tomorrow's another 2 chances to forget it

20:52 <xcamel> lol

20:53 <CoderForLife> time to go

20:53 <CoderForLife> cya folks

20:53 <Rookie_69> K.

20:53 <xcamel> later Don

20:53 <CoderForLife> nice meeting you Ageless

20:53 <Ageless> well, meeting... ;)

20:54 <CoderForLife> buh-bye

20:54 <CoderForLife> >gone<

20:57 <xcamel> &wx 12074

20:57 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 25.3F / -3.7C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Windy with lows around 18. Northwest winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 40 mph...decreasing to 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. (1 more message)

20:58 <xcamel> &more

20:58 <Romulus> xcamel: Highs around 40. West winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Cold with lows around 16. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;

20:59 <xcamel> nothing like 15 degrees below normal still..

20:59 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

20:59 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 24.8°F / -4.0°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.26in / 990.7hPa | Conditions: Light Snow Showers | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 15.9mph / 25.6km/h | Updated: 9:59 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph). Low -6C(21F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 percent chance of flurries in the morning. Wind (1 more message)

20:59 <Rookie_69> $more

21:00 <xcamel> everybody wants $more

21:00 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:00 <Rookie_69> &more

21:00 <Romulus> Rookie_69: west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). High -3C(26F). UV index 3 or moderate. Saturday night cloudy periods. 40 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). Low -7C(19F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 0C(32F).;

21:00 <Ageless> with it being worth hardly anything, I can see why

21:01 <Rookie_69> &wx yhz

21:01 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 23°F / -5°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.28in / 991hPa | Conditions: Light Snow Showers | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy with 70 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph). Low -6C(21F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 percent chance of flurries in the morning. Wind west 30 (1 more message)

21:01 * xcamel flips a kroner in Ageless's general direction

21:02 <Rookie_69> Close

21:02 * KathrynM goes to make some breakfast

21:02 <KathrynM> laterz all

21:02 <Ageless> hmmm, if that's worth more than a dollar, it's good.

21:02 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

21:02 <infinisoft> primegrid still having server issues...

21:03 <Ageless> yes and with Rytis having fun in Amsterdam for the whole of Easter, it'll be a while.

21:03 <Ageless> it's nothing Willy can fix. he tried and failed.

21:03 <Rookie_69> &wx xmi

21:03 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Thunderstorm. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:68 F. / 20 C.;

21:04 <Ageless> you looking up the better places, rookie? Where you long to be? ;)

21:04 <Romulus> MTughan, how is the path.

21:04 <xcamel> orbits uploaded, Glenn

21:05 <Rookie_69> Trying to find closer weather site, but last one was way off.

21:05 <Ageless> not closer weather then.

21:06 <Ageless> I noticed the other day that Google Earth shows radar and clouds these days as well, in the free version. nice touch.

21:06 <xcamel> and the earthquake plugin too..

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21:07 <Ageless> yes, but with the lack of earthquakes around and no work for me on QCN, I don't use it.

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21:16 <xcamel> qcn?

21:16 <Romulus> I guess qcn is down already, xcamel

21:17 <Rookie_69> Quake Catcher Network.

21:17 <xcamel> ah

21:17 <Rookie_69> http://qcn.stanford.edu/qcnalpha/

21:17 <Romulus> Title: QCN Alpha Test (at qcn.stanford.edu)

21:18 <Rookie_69> ... I guess...

21:19 <Ageless> guessed right. Carl's new project.

21:19 <xcamel> obscure, but cool project..

21:20 <Ageless> also busy with lots of graphical work for AIS's slide show in BOINC's simple view. Challenging thing to show neuron mapping in 290x126 pixels. ;)

21:20 <xcamel> I'm still waiting for realtime severe storm analysis and prediction...

21:22 <Ageless> that weather woman on CNN isn't enough?

21:22 <xcamel> not hardly

21:22 <xcamel> and you mean "GWN"

21:23 <Ageless> I do?

21:23 <xcamel> 'global warming network'

21:23 <xcamel> /sarc

21:23 <Ageless> then I do

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21:32 <xcamel> sigh... we still need a stats script..

21:33 <Ageless> ok, time for me to go crash into bed. night all.

21:33 <xcamel> laterz, Jord

21:33 <xcamel> good to talk again..

21:34 <Ageless> I'll be back when I want to be bored again. ;)

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21:38 * xcamel yawns..

21:39 <infinisoft> hmm

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21:49 * Rookie_69 foresakes WTF Friday for whatever happens to be in the VCR.

21:50 <Rookie_69> Jean-luc...

21:50 <Rookie_69> Much better.

21:52 <xcamel> probably stuck with history or NGC in another 10

21:54 <Rookie_69> History is usually good...

21:56 <xcamel> well... laterz for me..

21:56 <Romulus> AOL was my Q

21:57 <Rookie_69> Good idea.

21:57 <Rookie_69> NN.

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