IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-03-22

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00:18 <Soul_keeper> is the 6 pin power connector on recent video cards mandatory ?

00:23 <bryanUC_> I think so

00:24 <Soul_keeper> what about the 8-pin connector on recent motherboards ?

00:37 <bryanUC_> I hate that connector

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01:44 <Tank_Master> Soul_keeper: yes, if the 6 pic connector is present on the vid card, you must have power supplyed to it

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01:44 <Tank_Master> the 8pic connector is backwards compatible with the 4pin

01:45 <Soul_keeper> so all 4 of my 400 to 550 watt psu's are now worthless ...

01:45 <Tank_Master> but the 8pin will give a more stable power supply tot he mobo, thus usualy cna o/c better

01:45 <Tank_Master> can*

01:45 <Tank_Master> not worthless

01:45 <Tank_Master> you can get a molex to 6pin adaptor

01:46 <Tank_Master> but if you dont want them, ill take them

01:47 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam15/IMG_0191.JPG

01:47 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iHp> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

01:47 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam15/IMG_0192.JPG

01:47 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iHq> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

01:47 <Soul_keeper> can't run that untill i buy a new psu i guess ...

01:48 <Tank_Master> your PS not have the 6pin VGA connector?

01:50 <Soul_keeper> i guess i got one with the 6 pin

01:50 <Soul_keeper> http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=84&threadid=2168900&enterthread=y

01:50 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iHs> (at forums.anandtech.com)

01:50 <Soul_keeper> that's my situation

01:52 <Soul_keeper> so if i take that thermalright with the 6-pin   then i have to put my 400 watter on my other c2d system,  that means 20-pin for a 24-pin main connector

01:54 <Soul_keeper> i mean  thermaltake

01:56 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, you done talking to me now ?

01:59 <Tank_Master> sorry, no

01:59 <Tank_Master> why?

02:00 <Tank_Master> you can usually use a 20 pin adaptor in a 24pin socket

02:01 <Tank_Master> or get a converter

02:01 <Soul_keeper> this is rediculous

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02:01 <Soul_keeper> i fully expected my 100 dolar psu's to last untill they didn't have enough power to power a system build

02:02 <Soul_keeper> now i likely gotta pay 200 bucks for a psu

02:02 <Tank_Master> well, its more likely that the PS will give out first

02:02 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371009

02:02 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iI0> (at www.newegg.com)

02:02 <Tank_Master> with CPUs and motherboards becomming more efficent

02:02 <Tank_Master> its just the highend vid cards that keep drawing more power

02:03 <Tank_Master> what do you need 850 watts for?

02:03 <Tank_Master> sli 9800x2?

02:04 <Soul_keeper> because anything less don't have all the cool connectors

02:04 <Tank_Master> ahh

02:04 <Soul_keeper> i want 8 6 and 4 pin

02:04 <Soul_keeper> and the modular removeable cables is nice

02:04 <Tank_Master> the motherboards either have n 8 or a 4

02:04 <Tank_Master> not both

02:05 <efc> I think it will add on your power bill to have a much bigger PSU than you need? They may not be very efficient in that part of their operating range

02:05 <Tank_Master> no

02:05 <Tank_Master> all PS will only consume as much power as the system demands

02:05 <Soul_keeper> efc,  no it'll just use what the system drawls

02:05 <efc> ... they have a non-100% efficiency, and it is not constant over the range

02:06 <Tank_Master> and is gineral the same efficency conversion down to around 25-30%

02:06 <Tank_Master> load

02:06 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015        here's a brand new model for 100 bucks

02:06 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iI2> (at www.newegg.com)

02:06 <Tank_Master> most PS are ~75%-80% AC to DC conversion

02:06 <Soul_keeper> 650 would be plenty and a worthy upgrade to my 550

02:07 <Tank_Master> mine is a 680w ;)

02:07 <Soul_keeper> the ones i'm looking at have a 85% efficiency rate

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02:07 <Soul_keeper> http://80plus.org/manu/psu_80plus/psu_join.php

02:07 <Tank_Master> has 2 6pin VGA connectors ;)

02:07 <Romulus> Title: 80 Plus PSU - List (at 80plus.org)

02:07 <Soul_keeper> who makes your psu ?

02:07 <Tank_Master> thermaltake

02:08 <Soul_keeper> antec has just always been my favorite psu maker, kinda don't wanna change

02:08 <Tank_Master> mine has been thermaltake

02:08 <Tank_Master> same with heatsinks

02:08 <Soul_keeper> i got this thermaltake one from a local shop last year cause i was in a bind, and they didn't have antec

02:08 <Tank_Master> but nothing wrong with antech

02:08 <Soul_keeper> thermalright is my favorite heatsink company

02:09 <Tank_Master> antec and thermaltake are just about all I will consider

02:10 <efc> Nice graph: http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3231&p=10

02:10 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iI3> (at www.anandtech.com)

02:11 <Soul_keeper> that last PSU i linked from newegg don't say if it has 6-pin connectors or not

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02:20 <Tank_Master> wb

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02:21 <KathrynM> sorta back

02:21 <KathrynM> need to see if someone on #fedora can help me

02:21 <Tank_Master> then why are you here?

02:21 <Tank_Master> ;)

02:21 <Romulus> what did you see the use of the app dir, but I need to tuck you in? not aussie too?

02:21 <KathrynM> making trouble ;)

02:22 <Tank_Master> thought so

02:22 * KathrynM has no idea how to install linux w/o a gui

02:22 * Wabbit67 can't install linux period

02:23 <Soul_keeper> it's easy

02:23 <Tank_Master> who would want a linux period?

02:24 <Soul_keeper> i havn't used windows since like 2003

02:24 <Tank_Master> you dont know what your missing then

02:24 <Tank_Master> ;)

02:24 <Soul_keeper> lol

02:24 <Soul_keeper> constant reboots, and required upgrades ?

02:24 <Tank_Master> last updates didnt require an update

02:25 <Tank_Master> reboot*

02:25 <Tank_Master> and what were you rebooting for other than updates anyway?

02:25 <Wabbit67> power outages

02:25 <Soul_keeper> i havn't been required to update anything or reboot in 5yrs with linux ...

02:25 <Tank_Master> well, your not requiered to update windows either

02:26 <Tank_Master> doesnt meen you shouldnt

02:26 <mweltin> recomended though

02:26 <KathrynM> mweltin!

02:26 <Tank_Master> same with linux

02:26 <mweltin> KathrynM!

02:26 <Tank_Master> updates are recommended

02:26 <Soul_keeper> well i no longer have to call MS and spend an hour on the phone trying to get their voice recognition to recognize my 60 or so digits to ensure that i do indeed own windows ...

02:26 <KathrynM> trying to install Fedora without a GUI

02:27 <mweltin> I went diving with a korean exectutive today.  He dropped way too much money and chartered a boat that I was invited on.  Good times.

02:27 <Tank_Master> I have never need to call them

02:27 <Romulus> you realize electrolysis is like an internet IDE

02:27 <KathrynM> nice

02:27 <Wabbit67> mw you better give us a discount if we ever make it to your island

02:27 <mweltin> KathrynM, why not slackware?

02:27 <Tank_Master> sounds fun, mweltin

02:27 <mweltin> we are going out again tomorrow.

02:28 <KathrynM> cause I'm using Fedora on my other laptop and I"m no adventerous to figure out a new distro

02:29 <mweltin> that guy has some nice equipement too.  Video and still shot cameras with beautiful underwater housings.

02:29 <mweltin> so why not the GUI KathrynM

02:29 <KathrynM> nice

02:29 <KathrynM> stupid ati graphics

02:29 <mweltin> nice guy too.

02:29 <mweltin> hahaahah

02:29 <KathrynM> yeah yeah yeah

02:29 <KathrynM> laugh all you want

02:29 <Tank_Master> yes, ATI is stupid

02:29 <mweltin> in the end you will be happy with them (ati that is)

02:29 <KathrynM> here's the directions I got

02:29 <KathrynM> I then had to download the ATI driver for the X1250 from the ATI site on another machine, move it from a USB flash drive to the hard drive and run it from the command line, then I ran aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x800 to create an xorg.conf, then [b]startx[b] to start the GUI.

02:29 <Tank_Master> I never have

02:30 <zombie67> is the issue ATI?  or the distro ability to deal with ati?

02:30 <KathrynM> I think I'll be find once i figure out how to get that installer from the flash drive to the hard drive

02:30 <Tank_Master> its always ATI

02:30 <mweltin> at least there were drivers.  I have a radeon with a driver some guy wrote.

02:30 <KathrynM> ouch

02:30 <Tank_Master> even on windows distros they dont work quite right

02:30 <KathrynM> so since the folks at #fedora aren't being very helpful

02:31 <KathrynM> mweltin, how do I mount a usb drive from the cli?

02:31 <mweltin> depends a little

02:31 <Tank_Master> ahh, the joys of unix

02:31 <zombie67> man mount

02:31 <mweltin> but mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt

02:32 <mweltin> finding the right device name is the trick.

02:32 <KathrynM> oh that makes my head hurt

02:32 <zombie67> with ubuntu, flash drives mount utomatically when inserted

02:33 <Soul_keeper> use  lsusb  to make sure the device was indeed detected, check you  dmesg |more   to see what device name it was assigned

02:33 <mweltin> I used this just the other day for help.  http://rkrishna.tp.googlepages.com/slackerbasics

02:33 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iI-> (at rkrishna.tp.googlepages.com)

02:33 <mweltin> trouble with auto-mount is you don't get to pick the file system.

02:33 <mweltin> that is why I dont' use it.

02:34 <mweltin> I user NTFS, Reiser, and ext2, and what does mac use now?

02:35 <zombie67> um

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02:36 <zombie67> Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

02:36 <zombie67> leopard has some new stuff available, but not yet default

02:36 <mweltin> my GF got a new iBook a few weeks ago, not sure what it has.

02:37 <Tank_Master> Ive tryed out using exFAT on my flash drives

02:37 <mweltin> nice box though.

02:37 <Tank_Master> didnt notice much improvement in speed

02:37 <mweltin> exFAT ?

02:37 <Tank_Master> new - needs vista SP1 or server 2008 to support it

02:37 <zombie67> not a new iBook.  no such thing since intel

02:37 <Tank_Master> is a file system spicifily for removable flash

02:38 <zombie67> ooh!  what about the old iBook?!  new toy for you

02:38 <mweltin> macbook I can't keep those stupid (over priced) names straight.

02:38 <Tank_Master> im sure it wont be long before linus supports it (if it dosent already)

02:38 <mweltin> what makes it special?

02:38 <Tank_Master> better i/o throughput

02:39 <Tank_Master> better support for large storage devices

02:39 <mweltin> adn if it needs vista I'm not gonna run that for another year at least, maybe never.

02:39 <Romulus> then that was determined to be sure.

02:39 <zombie67> only the MacBook Pro is overpriced.  the MacBook is less expensive than competition

02:39 <Tank_Master> and its geard for flash, so less overhead when used on a flash device

02:39 <mweltin> better than, compaired to what VFAT?

02:39 <Tank_Master> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exfat

02:39 <Romulus> Title: exFAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

02:40 <Tank_Master> better than FAT, or vFAT, yes

02:40 <zombie67> the new/hot FS startes with X or Z....

02:41 <zombie67> xen...zan...something like that

02:41 <Tank_Master> not sure I have heard of it

02:41 <mweltin> well when tank says "better" I'm assuming he is reading some MS article, or at least one funded by them.  Better is relative to something else.

02:41 <KathrynM> woo hoo

02:41 <zombie67> ZFS!

02:42 <KathrynM> got it mounted and copied the driver to ~

02:42 <mweltin> what was the device name?

02:42 <Tank_Master> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS

02:42 <Romulus> Title: ZFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

02:42 <Tank_Master> by better, I mean its faster and supports larger drives

02:43 * KathrynM crosses fingers

02:43 <KathrynM> it's installing the driver

02:44 <mweltin> faster and larger than what?  An old file system from the 60's?

02:44 <mweltin> or say ext3

02:44 <Tank_Master> yes, amasing how long FAT has been around

02:45 <Tank_Master> yes its still used because its bout the only FS all OSs can read n right to

02:46 <KathrynM> yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

02:46 <KathrynM> I've got a gui

02:46 <mweltin> nice, now open a terminal and get some work done.

02:46 <KathrynM> lol

02:46 <KathrynM> let me actually install it to the hd first

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02:51 <mweltin> brb gotta wash off this salt water, can't take it any more.

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02:57 <Wabbit98> is there a way to save a video from youtube onto my computer so I can upload it onto another site?

03:00 <Tank_Master> yes

03:00 <Wabbit98> can you tell me how?

03:00 <Tank_Master> with IE, there is an add-on called IE7pro

03:00 * Wabbit98 uses Mozilla

03:01 <Tank_Master> itll allow you to download youtoube and google vidieo

03:02 <Wabbit98> how about if I am not using IE

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03:02 <Wabbit98> maybe mw knows

03:03 <KathrynM> there's gotta be a FF plugin for that

03:03 <Wabbit98> no clue

03:03 <KathrynM> http://lifehacker.com/software/exclusive-lifehacker-download/better-youtube-firefox-extension-319925.php

03:04 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iIG> (at lifehacker.com)

03:04 <KathrynM> take a look at that

03:04 <KathrynM> might be helpful

03:07 <mweltin> that uses youtubeloader.com

03:07 <Wabbit98> well that didn't work

03:08 <mweltin> did you read the full page.

03:08 <mweltin> there are some strange instructions.

03:08 <mweltin> http://youtubeloader.com/ this site may help as a stop gap measure.

03:08 <Romulus> Title: Download ANY YouTube Video (at youtubeloader.com)

03:09 <mweltin> even better http://www.youtubeloader.com/firefox_plugin.php

03:09 <Romulus> Title: Download ANY YouTube Video (at www.youtubeloader.com)

03:12 <mweltin> time to get to work, later all.

03:12 <mweltin> congats on the gui KathrynM

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03:20 <mweltin> Tank is there a "hosts" file in windows?

03:21 <mweltin> poor mans dns type deal?  where windows will look first for a domains IP before asking for it from a dns?

03:22 <mweltin> mmmmm no? ok thanks later

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03:25 <KathrynM> 687 MB of update

03:25 <KathrynM> I'll be here a while :)

03:30 <Tank_Master> host file in refernce to what?

03:30 <Tank_Master> oh, yes

03:30 <Tank_Master> but if you qwere here, I would tell you

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05:46 * CoderForLife wakes up

05:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 47.9F / 8.8C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 9.2mph / 14.8km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers mainly this afternoon...possibly mixed with snow showers. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight - (2 more messages)

05:47 <CoderForLife> &more

05:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until (1 more message)

05:47 <CoderForLife> &more

05:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 10:49 AM EDT on March 22, 2008;

05:48 <KathrynM> mornin

05:56 * CoderForLife moans in response

05:58 <CoderForLife> why does morning come so early?

05:58 <KathrynM> we should outlaw mornings

05:59 <CoderForLife> where do I sign up?

05:59 <KathrynM> over there ---------->

05:59 * CoderForLife runs that way

06:00 <KathrynM> <---------- oh waitk, sorry, it's over there

06:00 * KathrynM wishes these updates would download faster

06:00 * CoderForLife arrives from that way <---------------

06:00 <KathrynM> i've been at it for 2.5 hours

06:00 <CoderForLife> are you giving me the run-around?

06:00 <KathrynM> nah

06:00 <KathrynM> never

06:01 <CoderForLife> ah OK

06:04 <KathrynM> dinner has been successfully compiled :)

06:06 <CoderForLife> then it's done

06:06 <CoderForLife> ship it

06:07 <KathrynM> doing that right now :)

06:07 <KathrynM> it's a very good build

06:09 <CoderForLife> it's not spam, is it?

06:09 <KathrynM> nope

06:10 <CoderForLife> good

06:10 <KathrynM> shrimp, spinach, onions and carrots all sauteed together and then mixed with couscous

06:10 <KathrynM> but spam (the food variety) is very popular in korea

06:10 <CoderForLife> I liked Spam growing up, but don't have much use for it now

06:11 * CoderForLife looks for a free, redistributable, fast, command-line-driven unzip utility

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06:15 <DerMeister> 7zip?

06:15 <CoderForLife> just downloaded PKWARE and PicoZip to try

06:17 <CoderForLife> yeah - I'll look at 7-zip also - thanks DerMeister

06:18 <DerMeister> I has a really good compression ratio, too. Although it may be slow when compressing and may require a lot of ram then... But unzipping should be quite fast and 7zip can work with a lot of different formats... and it should be free :)

06:20 <CoderForLife> yup - my interest is unzipping under control of another program that wants to look at things in zip archives (supporting RAR, ARC, etc would be a bonus)

06:20 <CoderForLife> got 3 candidates to look at during breakfast

06:21 <CoderForLife> now...

06:21 <CoderForLife> breakfast!

06:21 <CoderForLife> brb

06:27 <CoderForLife> b w/b

06:28 <KathrynM> finally.  all downloaded.

06:28 * KathrynM wonders how many hours to install

06:29 <KathrynM> AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

06:29 <KathrynM> yum just barfed on me

06:30 <CoderForLife> now you'll have to "yum clean" it up

06:30 <KathrynM> what the hell do I do now?

06:31 <KathrynM> it's all koffice stuff

06:31 <KathrynM> I don't use koffice (it sucks)

06:31 <KathrynM> can I just uninstall it?

06:31 <CoderForLife> but it starts with K....

06:31 <KathrynM> true

06:31 * KathrynM bangs head on desk

06:32 <DerMeister> yum's a strange tool... I don't like it.

06:32 <KathrynM> oh well.  I'll see if it'll let me get rid of it :)

06:32 <CoderForLife> yum remove

06:32 <KathrynM> the worst thing that happens is I jump through the hoops and reinstall

06:32 * CoderForLife gets out his set of flaming hoops

06:33 * CoderForLife starts a large bonfire

06:33 <CoderForLife> did you want your hoops stationary, or being juggled?

06:33 <KathrynM> so much fun not to have x

06:34 <CoderForLife> shhh - I am really a Linux command line guy

06:35 <CoderForLife> I guess I'm going to do the Saturday morning errands

06:35 <CoderForLife> I'll bbl

06:35 <DerMeister> One of my linux boxes has just two cables plugged in... One for power and one for network... :)

06:36 <DerMeister> No need for X on this one :)

06:36 <CoderForLife> eggzackly

06:36 <CoderForLife> I'm off

06:36 * CoderForLife waves a command line reference sheet

06:37 <KathrynM> I know just enough CLI stuff to be dangerous.

06:39 <KathrynM> woot.  uninstalling koffice worked

06:39 <KathrynM> now all the updates are installing

07:19 <KathrynM> now that I have boinc running in 64 bit fedora, what projects?

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07:30 <desti> all u want

08:07 <xcamel> 'LO

08:20 <xcamel> &weather 12074

08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 19.9F / -6.7C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;

08:20 <xcamel> &more

08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: That's all, there is no more.

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08:39 <xcamel> good idea

08:39 <KathrynM> I'm trying to figure out why all of a sudden I can't get the manager to connect to the core client.

08:39 * KathrynM shrugs

08:39 <KathrynM> I'll fight with it more tomorrow.

08:40 <xcamel> in a console - type 'killall boinc' then restart it..

08:40 <KathrynM> I'm too tired.

08:40 <KathrynM> I've been working on installing Fedora since 2 this afternoon.

08:40 <KathrynM> I'll figure it out when I've got a clear head :)

08:42 <xcamel> lol

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08:54 <xcamel> hi

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09:11 <xcamel> good joke:

09:11 <xcamel> A Japanese doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a liver out of one man, put it into another, and have him out looking for work in six weeks."

09:11 <xcamel> A German doctor says, "That is nothing. We can take a lung out of one person, put it into another, and have him out looking for work in four weeks."

09:12 <xcamel> A British doctor says, "In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have both of them out looking for work in two weeks."

09:12 <xcamel> The American doctor, not to be outdone, interjected, "You guys are way behind. We are about to take a woman with no brains, and no heart, put her in the White House, and very soon half the country will be out looking for work."

09:12 <xcamel> hehehe...

09:15 <DerMeister> hehe

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09:22 <KathrynM> woo hoo!

09:22 <xcamel> 'lo Jord

09:22 <KathrynM> I think Enterprise is on.

09:22 <Ageless> g'afternoon

09:22 <KathrynM> Hiya Jord

09:23 <Ageless> hmm, focus is nice as well, before typing a whole sentence

09:23 <Romulus> leaving for home in 35 minutes

09:24 <CoderForLife> home from the grocery store, gas station, bank and McDonald's

09:24 <xcamel> easy way to blow $200 nowadays..

09:24 <Ageless> home from town, we got two hail and snow showers over us. brrr.

09:24 <CoderForLife> $249

09:24 <CoderForLife> lol xcamel

09:25 <xcamel> 'nuff said..

09:25 <CoderForLife> that's *before* we implement her health care plan

09:25 <xcamel> oh.. you caught the joke..

09:25 <CoderForLife> yup - I read backwards

09:26 <CoderForLife> that's 2 back-to-back grocery store weeks at $200+

09:26 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

09:26 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 39.4F / 4.1C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 6.3mph / 10.1km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers mainly this afternoon...possibly mixed with snow showers. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight (2 more messages)

09:27 <Ageless> are chocolate bunnies that expensive over there?

09:27 <CoderForLife> it's the bunny toll booth at the exit of the store

09:27 <xcamel> the good ones are..

09:28 <CoderForLife> but... we bought no bunnies

09:28 <Ageless> yes, I saw the big egg in London (on tv). Costs 650 pounds... or weight it. either way...

09:32 <Ageless> quick, report your primegrids now the server is up

09:33 <Ageless> oh, damn, can't.

09:33 <Ageless> server can't open database

09:33 <xcamel> got to get triaric to generate some more work...

09:34 <Ageless> would be nice if it were some Windows work... before Kathryn's out of reach, never to be overtaken again. ;)

09:36 <KathrynM> hahaha

09:37 <DerMeister> I got my primgerig wus reported and even got some new... but mysql seems to be bitchy again...

09:38 <xcamel> the last 4 finally reported..

09:40 <DerMeister> I never understood why the boincserver was designed to work *only* with mysql...

09:40 <Ageless> I'm being deferred for another hour.

09:45 <xcamel> I'd be looking for some more LHC about now..

09:45 <CoderForLife> bbiab

09:45 <xcamel> not that I'm ever going to catch Doug..

09:48 <Ageless> want my two?

09:49 <xcamel> I just wish they'd take their "twofer" limit off and make it something reasonable..

09:50 <xcamel> ....like 20

09:51 <Ageless> I thought it was set to something like 20 already.

09:51 <Ageless> I only get one or two as I have my queue set so low

09:52 <Ageless> what with two CPDN Beta models and also work for 9 other projects, I don't really need 45 tasks of each project

09:53 <xcamel> I gave up on cdpn

09:53 <Romulus> leave off the bat? the level of fragmentation if getting disconcerting.

09:53 <KathrynM> I'm heading for bed.

09:53 <DerMeister> hmmm... one of my machines ran just out of work... It's attached to primgerid (but doing only primegen), lhc, depspid and simap... all out of work there -.-

09:53 <KathrynM> laterz all

09:53 <xcamel> &nn

09:53 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

09:53 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

09:54 <xcamel> well.. need to go feed the animals...

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10:09 <kutio> hello world

10:09 <kutio> when i try to run boinc on my debian testing amd 64 , I have an error: cannot execute binary file

10:11 <CoderForLife> the world bids you welcome, kutio

10:12 <CoderForLife> I am not a debianite, and therefore will refrain from providing bogus advice

10:16 <CoderForLife> but I will ask - are you running boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu downloaded from http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php?

10:16 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

10:17 <CoderForLife> oops wrong one

10:17 <CoderForLife> boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

10:19 <kutio> Yes CoderForLife

10:19 <CoderForLife> OK

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11:48 <xcamel> re-back

12:11 <xcamel> creeping above freezing..

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12:17 <xcamel> poof..

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12:20 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

12:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 44.2F / 6.8C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1024.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4.9mph / 7.9km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Isolated rain showers in the afternoon. High in the lower 40s. North wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of showers 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow. Low in the mid 20s. Northwest (1 more message)

12:20 <wdsmia> &more

12:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of light snow showers in the morning. High in the lower 40s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.;

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13:08 <Rookie_69> My only completed Orbit WU called me an invalid and awarded all the credit to Xcamel. :-(

13:15 <Rookie_69> I may be gimped up, but I'm not an invalid.

13:15 <desti> l0l

13:19 * CoderForLife looks to see how his orbit wu is progressing

13:21 <CoderForLife> it's running, while waiting to run

13:21 <CoderForLife> multi-talented

13:22 <CoderForLife> my 4 CPUS are running 4 instances of QMC and 1 orbit

13:24 <Rookie_69> Eight Win WU's completed for a total of zero claimed credit on 3.4 ghz zeon for Cellutions... Quick machine!

13:28 <Rookie_69> My Athlon 64 is suffering from a split personality too.

13:29 <Rookie_69> Maybe Pasquale is getting greedy...

13:29 <Rookie_69> ;-)

13:33 * Rookie_69 thinks Tricaric is too busy fighting off angry credit-whores.

13:34 <CoderForLife> hmm

13:34 * CoderForLife looks

13:36 <CoderForLife> that's my 'doze desktop

13:36 <CoderForLife> it's not doing any orbit work

13:37 <CoderForLife> my fc8 machine has one WU - the first and only one it's gotten

13:38 <Rookie_69> http://orbit.psi.edu/oah/show_host_detail.php?hostid=602

13:38 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iKy> (at orbit.psi.edu)

13:39 <Rookie_69> 06 march 08...

13:39 <Rookie_69> Must have been some test WU's.

13:39 <CoderForLife> yeah, my XP workstation, doing orbit random number generator tests

13:40 <CoderForLife> afaik, there's no orbit work for Windows

13:40 <Rookie_69> Not yet.

13:40 <CoderForLife> that's why I set it up on my big box

13:41 <Rookie_69> I only have one box running linux so I connected that one.

13:47 * Rookie_69 wonders why he keeps finding green sequins in carpet...

13:48 <CoderForLife> I have more, but I want to get to 1M QMC first

13:48 <Rookie_69> ... then you get a free earthquake?

13:49 <Romulus> needs to get new work it tells me the sigs do not use Zips here.

13:50 <Rookie_69> Wrong @home...

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13:55 <Rookie_69> I was thinking of QCN.

14:02 <CoderForLife> ah

14:02 <CoderForLife> I'm thinking about walking out to the mailbox

14:03 <CoderForLife> when that happens, I usually lay down until the feeling goes away

14:04 <DerMeister> lol

14:05 <Rookie_69> Might be AOL free CD in mailbox...

14:08 <CoderForLife> you never know - it's been awhile since I've done skeet shooting

14:09 <CoderForLife> off to the street - bbiab

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14:28 <CoderForLife> baaack

14:29 <Rookie_69> Ewe in mailbox?

14:30 <CoderForLife> One piece of mail, same as I got at w@#% - local seminar on SOA

14:31 <Rookie_69> Soldiers Of Armageddon?

14:31 <Rookie_69> ... Survivors...?

14:31 <CoderForLife> not quite

14:31 <CoderForLife> not Society of Actuaries

14:32 <CoderForLife> not Sisters of America

14:32 <Rookie_69> Sin Of Abstinence...

14:32 <CoderForLife> actually, Service Oriented Architecture

14:33 <Rookie_69> Nowhere near as interesting...

14:33 <CoderForLife> quite right

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14:34 <CoderForLife> speaking of actuaries....

14:35 <CoderForLife> Do you know how to tell the difference between an introverted and an extroverted actuary?

14:36 <Rookie_69> No, but I'm afraid you're going to tell me.

14:36 <CoderForLife> yep

14:36 <Rookie_69> Lol.

14:36 <CoderForLife> An introverted actuary looks at his shoes when he's talking to you.

14:36 <CoderForLife> An extroverted actuary looks at *your* shoes when he's talking to you.

14:36 * CoderForLife loves humor involving actuaries

14:36 <Rookie_69> Lol.

14:37 <Rookie_69> Shoo!

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14:42 <Rookie_69> I generally look anywhere but at your eyes when talking to you... Do you think I'm a closet actuary?

14:43 <Rookie_69> Nah. Math and statistics usually confuse me.

14:44 <CoderForLife> I guess my assessment would depend on exactly where you do look...

14:45 * CoderForLife naps at his keyboard

14:45 <CoderForLife> cloudy, very cool day

14:45 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

14:45 <Rookie_69> If your name was Dawn instead of Don, then mayde a tad north of your shoes...

14:45 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 35.7F / 2.1C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6.9mph / 11.1km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy with isolated snow showers. Near steady temperatures in the upper 30s. North winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming (1 more message)

14:46 <CoderForLife> lol

14:46 <CoderForLife> not much incentive to work in the yard with snow showers

14:46 <CoderForLife> &more

14:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.;

14:47 <CoderForLife> a bit warmer tomorrow

14:47 <Rookie_69> & wx cxmi

14:47 <CoderForLife> I need to get the leaf blower out and coax the ones out that hid from me last fall

14:47 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

14:48 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

14:48 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 30.0°F / -1.1°C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa | Conditions: Light Snow Showers | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15.4mph / 24.8km/h | Updated: 3:48 PM ADT; Today - Flurries ending this afternoon then cloudy with sunny periods and 40 percent chance of flurries. Local amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph). High -1C(30F).; Tonight (1 more message)

14:48 <CoderForLife> &wx pitch

14:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

14:48 <CoderForLife> &wx roll

14:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

14:48 <Rookie_69> Lol.

14:49 <CoderForLife> &more Rookie_69

14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: - Cloudy periods with 60 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) diminishing to 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) this evening. Low -7C(19F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud with 60 percent chance of flurries in the morning. Clearing in the afternoon. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). High -2C(28F).;

14:49 <CoderForLife> &wx hell

14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 53.7F / 12.1C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 1.4mph / 2.3km/h ; Today - Cloudy through mid morning...then becoming partly sunny. Scattered light snow showers...ending around 8 am. Highs 33 to 37. Northeast winds 5 to 15 mph...turning to north. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly (1 more message)

14:49 <CoderForLife> &more

14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: cloudy...becoming mostly cloudy toward daybreak. Lows 19 to 23. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Numerous snow showers developing from late morning on. Accumulations around an inch possible. Highs 32 to 36. Variable winds 10 mph or less. Chance of snow 70 percent.;

14:49 <Rookie_69> YAW is the local Navy/Air Force airfield.

14:49 <CoderForLife> &wx heaven

14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

14:50 <Rookie_69> &wx vulcan

14:50 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 43°F / 6°C | Humidity: 17% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM MDT; Today - Sunny. Fog patches in a few localities near noon. High 11C(52F). UV index 3 or moderate.; Tonight - Clear. Low -6C(21F).; Sunday - Sunny. Increasing cloudiness late in the morning. Wind becoming southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (1 more message)

14:51 <Rookie_69> &wx alert

14:51 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: -27°F / -33°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM MDT; Scattered Clouds. High:-27 F. / -33 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:-29 F. / -34 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-27 F. / -33 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-34 F. / -37 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-21 F. / -29 C.; Partly (1 more message)

14:51 <CoderForLife> yeow

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14:52 <Rookie_69> Close enough to North Pole...

14:52 <CoderForLife> too cold for frost

14:55 <Rookie_69> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alert,_Nunavut

14:55 <Romulus> Title: Alert, Nunavut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

14:56 <CoderForLife> heh - closest city is Yellowknife 1133 mile away

14:57 <Rookie_69> City... Pop: 18,700. Lol.

14:58 <Rookie_69> Big for up there.

14:58 <CoderForLife> pop of Alert - 5

15:01 <Rookie_69> Somebody left a lot of dirty dishes lying around and "I" have to wash them!

15:01 <CoderForLife> um - that's a positive five, not negative five =)

15:01 * Rookie_69 lives alone :-(

15:01 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:02 <CoderForLife> I have a spouse to do that stuff

15:02 <Rookie_69> Wanna trade for a week or so?

15:02 <CoderForLife> you for her?  no way

15:02 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:02 <CoderForLife> lol

15:03 <CoderForLife> speaking of snow pics (weren't we?), let me PM a link to you

15:03 <Rookie_69> Doug has offered to share the expense of a wife if I find one...

15:03 <Rookie_69> K.

15:20 <Tank_Master> http://www.liftconference.com/distributed-computing-distributed-thinking

15:20 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iLg> (at www.liftconference.com)

15:21 <Romulus> if you're not using...

15:21 <Tank_Master> grate vid from LHC

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15:38 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jord.

15:39 <Ageless> Hi Glenn

15:39 <Rookie_69> Back so soon?

15:39 <Ageless> there's nothing on TV, so um... yes.

15:40 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:40 <Tank_Master> lol

15:40 <Tank_Master> http://www.liftconference.com/distributed-computing-distributed-thinking

15:40 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iLg> (at www.liftconference.com)

15:40 <Tank_Master> grate vid from LHC

15:40 <Tank_Master> thatll pas some time

15:41 <Ageless> I could probably use this time to work a bit more on some of the slide show pictures I am making for AIS, but I can't find the focus for that either. :(

15:41 <Tank_Master> lol

15:41 <Ageless> I could go fill in my tax return forms.

15:42 <Tank_Master> hehe

15:42 <Ageless> but you have to be pretty bored for that and I'm not that bored.

15:42 * Rookie_69 should fill tax return...

15:42 <Ageless> you too, huh? ;)

15:43 <Rookie_69> Forms in pocket for a while now...

15:44 <Ageless> it's all electronic here, but that doesn't make it much easier.

15:45 <CoderForLife> I'll bbl

15:47 <Rookie_69> Still need to wander into nether regions of govt to find out some of it's nasty little secrets...

15:47 <Ageless> I thought you had the evening news for that?

15:48 <xcamel> back again

15:48 <Tank_Master> wb

15:48 <Rookie_69> Even they won't touch Taxation Canada...

15:49 <Tank_Master> :)

15:49 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

15:50 <Ageless> gonna make another cup of tea, brb

15:51 <xcamel> needed a cup of coffee myself..

15:51 <Rookie_69> So why do you get credit while I get labeled as an invalid, jay?

15:51 <Rookie_69> LOl.

15:51 <Rookie_69> ?

15:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:51 <Rookie_69> Better.

15:52 <xcamel> quad successfully retrieved from the 'southeast 40'

15:52 <xcamel> twernt easy

15:54 <Rookie_69> Aye, but will she live, Jim?

15:54 <Tank_Master> never

15:54 <Tank_Master> she's dead, Jim

15:54 <Rookie_69> :-(

15:56 <xcamel> alive, but broken

15:58 <Rookie_69> ... but did you have fun?

15:59 <xcamel> IP kill >> 196.3.168.196

15:59 <xcamel> not really

16:00 <Rookie_69> ... before it broke...

16:00 <xcamel> mud up to your nutz in places

16:00 <xcamel> yeah, but that was last weekend..

16:00 <Romulus> coulda sworn that didn't help

16:02 <xcamel> bbiab - needs a reboot

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16:16 <xcamel> &wx 12074

16:16 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 37.3F / 2.9C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds around 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Cold with lows around 17. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;

16:30 <CoderForLife> PM response Rookie_69

16:31 <CoderForLife> plinked it, xcamel - thanks

16:31 <xcamel> as long as it's not 'pms response'

16:33 <CoderForLife> it might be - trying to decode

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16:57 <KathrynM> you gotta be kidding me.

16:57 <KathrynM> this orbit has been running like 48 hours

16:57 <KathrynM> it finished with a cpu time of under 7

16:58 <KathrynM> and cpu time was way over 7 hours before

16:58 <CoderForLife> needs some work

16:58 <KathrynM> just a bit

16:58 <KathrynM> I dunno when the cpu time reset

16:58 <Iphorita> Hi.

16:58 <KathrynM> but it wasn't when boinc stopped started for logrotate.

16:59 <KathrynM> because that was under 2 hours ago

16:59 <CoderForLife> did the WU stop when boinc stopped?

16:59 <KathrynM> when boinc told it to stop?

16:59 <KathrynM> no

16:59 <KathrynM> when boinc was shut down, yeah, afaik

17:00 <Iphorita> I'm looking for some distributed computing from your brains.

17:00 * CoderForLife searches

17:00 <KathrynM> it's 6 am, my brain doesn't computer

17:00 <KathrynM> errr

17:00 <KathrynM> compute

17:00 <CoderForLife> no brains here

17:00 <CoderForLife> axe away

17:01 <Iphorita> Clustered brains

17:01 <Iphorita> I'm federating people around a scientific research

17:01 <CoderForLife> I'm running on battery backup

17:02 * CoderForLife makes listening noises

17:02 <Iphorita> And I just need a quick e-mail checking as english isn't my native language

17:02 <Iphorita> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60621/

17:02 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)

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17:03 <KathrynM> How soon do you need it?

17:04 <Iphorita> One month or two ?

17:04 <KathrynM> I can proof read it, after I have a few more hours of sleep :)

17:04 <KathrynM> not the site, I'm a lowly English teacher :)

17:05 <Iphorita> It must be sent before tomorrow :-/

17:05 <KathrynM> tomorrow = ?

17:05 <KathrynM> what time is it for you?

17:05 <Iphorita> 22:05 France time

17:05 <KathrynM> it's only 6 am here.

17:05 <Iphorita> Huhu

17:05 <KathrynM> I won't be up for another 4 hours or so (it's Sunday :p)

17:06 <Iphorita> So you're a zombie right now I suppose ?

17:06 <KathrynM> Not too far from it.

17:06 <KathrynM> My guinea pig needed water.  The clunking of the little ball in the tube of her water bottle woke me up.

17:06 <Iphorita> Perfect - my english skills are zombie-like

17:07 <Iphorita> Poor being

17:07 <CoderForLife> all teachers are afflicted with some levels of zombieism

17:07 <CoderForLife> a job requirement

17:07 <KathrynM> Is that why I want to claw my eyes out on a regular basis?

17:07 <nickuwo1> your english sounds pretty good to me :)

17:07 <CoderForLife> that's one of the mild symptoms

17:07 <Iphorita> That's cute nickuwol

17:08 <KathrynM> I'm still trying to figure out how a student got "horizontality" in a diary entry.

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17:08 <Iphorita> But I basically suck at grammar

17:08 <Rookie_69> Mais, Je ne parle pas Francais.

17:08 <KathrynM> I didn't even know horizontality was a word.

17:08 <KathrynM> mweltin!

17:08 <mweltin> it is now

17:08 <Iphorita> Rooki_69 :-)

17:08 <KathrynM> ok.  I'm not here.

17:08 <nickuwo1> yes, nobody likes grammar

17:08 <mweltin> I htink I just had a minor brain storm, seem obvious now that I thought about it.

17:08 <KathrynM> I'm going back to bed.

17:09 <mweltin> night

17:09 <KathrynM> so that's the thunder I've been hearing ;)

17:09 <KathrynM> &nn

17:09 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

17:09 <Iphorita> Good ni.. err, day ? KathrynM

17:09 <Iphorita> nickuwol : Could you please check my e-mail ?

17:09 <Iphorita> nickuwol : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60621/

17:10 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)

17:11 <nickuwo1> sure... whats atypic mean?

17:11 <Iphorita> Not typical, not academic

17:11 <CoderForLife> atypical

17:12 <Iphorita> ty :-)

17:12 <xcamel> that would be it..

17:12 <nickuwo1> lines 8,9, and 10 are pretty good, no space before ? tho

17:12 <CoderForLife> away I go...

17:12 * xcamel waits for dinner..

17:12 <nickuwo1> line 3 should be "ideas"

17:13 * CoderForLife vanishes in a blinding flash of light

17:13 <Iphorita> Ty CoderForLife

17:13 <Iphorita> Ok, line 3...

17:13 <nickuwo1> can you fill me in on the context of this letter?

17:13 <nickuwo1> not sure what its for

17:13 <Rookie_69> In line 5... Who has instead of which has???

17:13 <Rookie_69> ... which have...

17:14 <Iphorita> Haha.

17:14 <Rookie_69> ... or would that be whom?

17:14 <nickuwo1> i think who is right

17:14 <Ageless> anyone who wants slides? AIS' are now done. ;)

17:16 <Iphorita> Who has, ok

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17:18 <Rookie_69> Oh. Never mind me... I'm not here.

17:18 <xcamel> yummy pizza

17:20 <nickuwo1> i pasted some changes and suggestions, might help you to look them up and decide for yourself if you like them better. I think it flows a little better tho

17:21 <Iphorita> Thank you very much.

17:21 <nickuwo1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/60627/

17:21 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)

17:21 <nickuwo1> np

17:21 <nickuwo1> your english is pretty good tho, not an easy lang. to learn (at least thats what I hear)

17:22 <Iphorita> My english is 2 month-old.

17:22 <nickuwo1> damn

17:22 <Iphorita> ( months ? )

17:22 <nickuwo1> that's impressive

17:22 <nickuwo1> yes

17:22 <nickuwo1> months :)

17:22 <Iphorita> Ty

17:24 <Iphorita> Well, can I help you in any way ?

17:24 <nickuwo1> hmm... I can't think of anything, but if I do, I let ya know

17:25 <nickuwo1> I mean I'll let you know

17:25 <Iphorita> :-D

17:26 <Iphorita> iphorita hosted at gmail.com is my e-mail

17:26 <Iphorita> Feel free to do so, I appreciate your help

17:26 <nickuwo1> sounds good

17:26 <Iphorita> Cya !

17:27 <nickuwo1> bye

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17:27 <Ageless> making friends?

17:28 <nickuwo1> connections baby!

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17:50 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

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17:52 <efc> Hey

18:06 <xcamel> bbl..

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18:13 <mweltin> was there a database update a while back?

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18:14 <Ageless> only broken code, I saw.

18:15 <mweltin> my workgenerator is crashing out.

18:15 <mweltin> Database error: Unknown column 'rsc_bandwidth_bound' in 'field list'

18:15 <Ageless> that was fixed and broken again and fixed again and where it's now... I dunno

18:16 <mweltin> do you know the last revision it was fixed in by chance?

18:16 <Ageless> 14948 if I am not mistaken

18:17 <mweltin> ok I'm at 14950

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18:18 <mweltin> I don't think I ran upgrade for a while

18:18 <mweltin> I'll try that

18:18 <Ageless> sorry I can't help you much further, Markus.

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18:19 <Ageless> hey Paul, this way for the Danish treat. ;)

18:19 <TheGasGiant> lol...

18:19 <TheGasGiant> heya Jord

18:19 <Ageless> how's the cat?

18:20 <TheGasGiant> not sure yet...calling the animal hospital soon

18:20 <Ageless> what happened to it?

18:20 <mweltin> sorry to hear about your cat TheGasGiant

18:20 <TheGasGiant> not sure...we were away for easter and we put him in a catery we've used before

18:21 <TheGasGiant> and they called us yesterday saying he had poo'd himself and wsa non responsive

18:21 <mweltin> there was a database update.

18:21 <TheGasGiant> thanks mweltin

18:22 <mweltin> be grateful for vets.  We don't have a qualified vet on this island and its always very stressful when my dog gets sick.

18:23 <mweltin> You cat is in good, and qualified hands.

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18:23 <TheGasGiant> wow...

18:23 <Ageless> perhaps the change of food and surroundings? Selena here goes into a state when you just try to carry her out of the flat.

18:24 <TheGasGiant> yeah...the only 'problem' with the animal hospital is that it's not manned 24hrs a day

18:24 <TheGasGiant> Jord..lol...that's a possibility, but they've identified a neurological problem as well

18:25 <Ageless> poisonous mouse ;)

18:26 <TheGasGiant> hehehe...

18:26 <TheGasGiant> he's got diabetes as well..so maybe he's got some 'other' problems as well..like organ failure

18:27 <TheGasGiant> well anyway....we'll know more in an hr or so

18:29 <Ageless> good luck. Hope you don't have to put him to sleep so before Easter.

18:29 <TheGasGiant> it's easter Sunday here and my wifes b'day..so she's real happy....

18:30 <Ageless> who will now sleep on her feet? you?

18:31 <TheGasGiant> lol....i grovel at her feet now, so it's just a small change ;)

18:31 <mweltin> the server status page is gone?

18:31 <mweltin> I HATE doing boinc upgrades.

18:32 <Ageless> then just don't do boinc upgrades. wait a year, as then it **may** be stable ;)

18:32 <mweltin> LOL

18:33 <TheGasGiant> just like LHC

18:33 <desti> is flickr.com down?

18:34 <mweltin> all my customizations are gone arrrrghhhhhhhh,  mmmm maby I got lucky and have them in svn somewhere.

18:35 <Ageless> oh well, at least that gives you the oportunity to change the Accpet to Accept this time around. Seriously though, don't you make backups?

18:36 <Tank_Master> mw!

18:36 <mweltin> I back up the big stuff, things like the apps themselves.  I'm tripping over myself with backsup that, but the boinc proejct stuff nto always.

18:36 <mweltin> Tank_Master!

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18:37 <mweltin> did you get some work ?

18:37 <Tank_Master> I am now

18:37 <Tank_Master> it was backed of for meny moons

18:37 <Tank_Master> off*

18:38 <Romulus> word of warning. when orbit says waiting to run as root>

18:38 <mweltin> there was a db update I failed to notice.

18:38 <mweltin> generator was crashing and I wasn't checking the logs

18:39 <Tank_Master> ahh

18:40 <mweltin> spelling error corrected

18:41 <Ageless> lol

18:41 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:41 <Ageless> ha, only for the BF

18:42 <Ageless> the GAT still has it, while ACO seems to be missing (as you expected)

18:44 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmmm

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18:46 <xcamel> b04k3d

18:46 <mweltin> I'm supposed to be diving in an hour, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

18:47 <Tank_Master> fun stuff

18:47 <xcamel> for snails?

18:47 <Tank_Master> sea slugs

18:47 <nickuwo1> I envy you, I haven't dived in a year or two

18:47 <mweltin> no, we missed Fagatele bay yesterday and dove a sea mount outside of the harbor.

18:48 <mweltin> today is the real dive

18:48 <Romulus> well, my mod of Eric's pic of his spreadsheet scanning code

18:48 <Tank_Master> he needs to mow the sea grass

18:48 <mweltin> yes you do, I get to go twice a week.  Not always in as nice a place as fagatele baythough.

18:50 <Ageless> but but but... you can't. You have to spend every minute you're not sleeping on perfecting TSP.

18:51 <Tank_Master> heh

18:51 <Ageless> tweak it, break it, repair it, be there when people have problems.

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18:51 <Tank_Master> optimize it

18:51 <Ageless> or so some people think....

18:51 <Tank_Master> and reuduse credit on it to compensate for the optimizeing..

18:51 <mweltin> LOL

18:51 <Ageless> personal time? not when you're a project admin!

18:52 <Tank_Master> LOL

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18:53 <Ageless> have an alarm go off next to your bed when someone posts on the forums... ugh. nevr mind me, I'm in a giggly mood. ;)

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18:53 <mweltin> are you an admin Ageless ?

18:54 <Ageless> luckily not, no. I only help poor souls all over the place.

18:54 <Tank_Master> lol

18:55 <mweltin> many thanks anyway.  It's just you seemed to know what it is like.  Your description was right on.

18:55 <Ageless> I get around, Markus.

18:56 <xcamel> hmmm.... hate that.

18:56 <Ageless> and see a lot of complaints from people. Especially the past days on Cosmo, where people really expect that the admins are available all the time. easter? Pah! They need to be there!

18:57 <Tank_Master> so true

18:57 <mweltin> I think I'm given a little slack cause its just me and my project is not as popular as Cosmo.

18:58 <Tank_Master> and you have me to give generic responces

18:58 <Tank_Master> "that is a knowen isse and is being worked on"

18:58 <Ageless> oh... we need to change that then.

18:58 <mweltin> LOL that was classic

18:58 <Tank_Master> ;)

18:58 <mweltin> it still makes me laugh

18:59 <xcamel> just because they have no life, doesn't mean the admins don't

19:00 <Ageless> you gave me credit a while back over helping you with something (forgot what it was exactly, probably something insignificant). It's always nice to get credit (on the front page). :)

19:01 <mweltin> more spelling errors I have a lot of those.  Can't spell my way out of paper bag, hence I'm a programmer.

19:02 <nickuwo> sorry guys, quick question, if you add an updated version of some app, say from 1.1 to 1.2, but leave the old one, will clients re-download the new app asap, or is there some sort of trigger?

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19:04 <xcamel> who admins cosmo?

19:04 <Ageless> afaik the new app will download at the next request for work.

19:05 <Ageless> Scott Kruger

19:05 <Ageless> and Ben Wandelt

19:05 <xcamel> ah..

19:05 <nickuwo> sweet thx

19:05 <xcamel> I'd keep running it but it takes down everything when one wu crashes..

19:06 <Ageless> I still haven't had a crash of Cosmo. knocks wood. I did stop it during the change from camb 2.05 through to 2.12 ;)

19:09 <xcamel> windows?

19:09 <Ageless> yes, 2000 SP4, single CPU as well.

19:10 <Tank_Master> old

19:11 <Ageless> but sturdy. And I can still play all the games I want on it. :)

19:11 <mweltin> I gotta get ready.

19:11 <mweltin> alter guys

19:11 <mweltin> thanks for the tips.

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19:11 <Ageless> later Markus. Have fun. and watch out for the bends

19:12 <xcamel> lol

19:12 <Ageless> typing too slowly ;)

19:14 <xcamel> it happens..

19:18 <Tank_Master> what took you so long?

19:18 <Tank_Master> he ghave you an entire second to type!

19:18 <Ageless> Chatzilla wasn't in focus.

19:28 <xcamel> chatzilla is a strange client..

19:34 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:40:15)

19:34 <Ageless> true, but I didn't want to install mIRC yesterday. It works, even though you have to do everything by hand

19:34 <KathrynM> who ordered the rain?

19:35 <Ageless> I sent you some of our snow. Can't help it it turned into something else

19:35 <xcamel> did you need it?

19:35 <KathrynM> rain is fine.  but not when I have to walk to the grocery store

19:35 <KathrynM> I knew I should have done that yesterday instead of fighting with Fedora.

19:36 <Ageless> can't you shop online and have it delivered?

19:36 <KathrynM> dunno

19:37 <KathrynM> I was going to go to the Old Downtown area today.

19:37 <KathrynM> But not in the rain.

19:37 <KathrynM> yo Ageless, do me a favor and go answer this guy http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2544#16040

19:37 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iN$> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

19:37 <Ageless> ever heard of an umbrella (and not the Ryhana song ;))

19:37 <KathrynM> I can't string together a coherent thought

19:38 <Ageless> you mean that person with his linux problem? I dunno that one, have looked into it already and my lack of Linux knowledge is in my way.

19:38 <Ageless> I thought of waiting for Nicolas to do it. ;)

19:39 <KathrynM> it's the whole ubuntu build thing

19:39 <xcamel> He can upgrade the lib (not too hard)

19:39 <xcamel> if he needs graphics, then he needs the ubuntu version (which will run on suse)

19:40 <xcamel> he can even make a fake symlink of libstdc.++.so.6 to libstdc.++.so

19:40 <Ageless> perhaps a refreshing walk in the rain will clear your thoughts.

19:40 <xcamel> which would also work

19:43 <xcamel> I'm not on that boars, but you can forward my suggestions..

19:44 <xcamel> er board, even

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19:47 <Ageless> or you can register, Jay: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/dev_create_account_form.php

19:47 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iNE> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

19:47 <Ageless> we can always use the help.

19:47 <Ageless> if you dare to be seen with us, that is.

19:50 <xcamel> I have tried to help from the very beginning - but too often get trashed for having ideas not in harmony with the communist nature of boinc.

19:53 <Ageless> I think you'll find that the developers aren't really around on those boards, not unless we summon them... and even then they don't always show. ;)

19:55 <xcamel> I participate on the email board side

19:55 <xcamel> alpha, beta, dev

20:02 <Ageless> me too, but that doesn't hold me back from also helping on forums.

20:03 <Ageless> see it as an additional challenge. :D

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20:14 <Ageless> all right, time for me to go to bed. The Formula One starts in less than 7 hours. night all.

20:15 <KathrynM> night

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20:33 <KathrynM> I'm off for a while.

20:33 <Romulus> My friend achieve to run boinc on my desktop

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20:35 <MTughan> Is 6.1 almost ready for primetime then?

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20:38 <MTughan> Hmm, no mweltin... Oh well, I'll catch him later.

20:40 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

20:40 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

20:40 <xcamel> spare time challenge for you...

20:40 <xcamel> we used to have a 'stats' function (plugin) for the bot...

20:41 <MTughan> Uh huh.

20:41 <MTughan> And... ?

20:41 <xcamel> basically it would pull the 'stats on your cell' feed using &stats [project] [user]

20:41 <xcamel> any interest?

20:42 <MTughan> Doesn't sound too hard.

20:42 <MTughan> The only thing is that it would have to have a lookup of Project URLs.

20:43 <MTughan> &list lookup

20:43 <Romulus> MTughan: add, airport, areacode, boincerr, deepthought, httpcode, port, remove, rfc, search, stateinfo, and zipcode

20:43 <xcamel> dunno if the 'boinc combined' has a simple txt feed anywhere for just &stats [user]

20:43 <MTughan> I could use that though.

20:43 <MTughan> Oh, off BOINCStats...

20:43 <xcamel> only for the combined

20:44 <xcamel> otherwise you end up with a huge database stored locally

20:44 <MTughan> Doesn't seem that there is an RSS feed for stats off of BS's site...

20:44 <MTughan> Nvm, I see it.

20:44 <xcamel> some projects list the CPID, and the associated stats

20:45 <xcamel> trick is to allow for 'no channel flood'

20:45 <xcamel> like the weather slpit to '&more'

20:45 <Romulus> ready:1 nwu_results: 100 max_wu_results: 100 then 100 absent things

20:45 <MTughan> I think that's done by the bot automatically.

20:46 <MTughan> As for BS stats, this seems to be the best I can get. http://www.boincstats.com/stats/wap_user.php?id=991407

20:46 <xcamel> think about it, or experiment a little

20:46 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iNT> (at www.boincstats.com)

20:46 <MTughan> The "c" stats are total credit. I think the "r"'s are recent, but I'm not sure how that works.

20:46 <MTughan> Nvm, "r"'s are world positions.

20:47 <xcamel> r for 'rac'

20:47 <xcamel> all integer

20:47 <MTughan> No, the r stats are RAC.

20:47 <xcamel> that's what I said

20:47 <MTughan> I have an RAC of 667.679. The r there is 39556.

20:48 <xcamel> hmmm..

20:48 <MTughan> Sorry, the r stats are not RAC.

20:48 <xcamel> you'll have to hunt around a bit..

20:48 <MTughan> 39556 is my current world position though.

20:48 <xcamel> name ID to user id could be tough

20:49 <MTughan> Yeah.

20:49 <MTughan> I would either just go project by project, or use a different stats site.

20:50 <MTughan> If I did. I don't have much time at the moment, with an English book log, a Philosophy biography, and an English movie all due the week after I get back from March Break.

20:51 <MTughan> I finished off the movie today, I have a good start on the book log, but nothing's been done on the biography. Yet.

20:51 <xcamel> school work first..

20:51 <MTughan> lol, this seems so pitiful... "Contribution to BOINC total credit: 0.00043%"

20:51 <MTughan> 4.3 thousandths of a percent. xD

20:52 <MTughan> I could have a nice day with credits tomorrow though... A possibility of ~1100 credits from E@H.

20:53 <wdsmia> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_100947_project-1.gif

20:53 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iNW> (at www.boincstats.com)

20:53 <MTughan> Plus another 300 from Sudoku, and 600 that I already have today.

20:53 <Romulus> ie. one second per second?

20:53 <MTughan> Doug: Really, you expect me to parse an image? :P

20:53 <wdsmia> nope

20:54 <wdsmia> :P

20:54 <MTughan> That's good. I wasn't planning on doing it.

20:56 <xcamel> it would be nice to get a stats sucker working

20:56 <xcamel> but... off with me for now...

20:56 <xcamel> laterz, and have a nice Easter..

20:56 <wdsmia> cya jay

20:57 <MTughan> Bye.

20:57 <MTughan> I'll see what I can do when I have the time, K?

20:57 <MTughan> Anyway... I saw BOINC 6.1.10 is available for download on Mac OS X. Is it almost ready for primetime then?

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21:49 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015   i just bought that at a local shop for 95 bones

21:49 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1iI2> (at www.newegg.com)

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21:56 <MTughan> That's no fun... You should get a 1000W power supply! :P

21:57 <MTughan> Imagine your computer taking a kilowatt. xD

22:00 <Soul_keeper> i was tempted to get the 850 .... but they wanted like 250 bones for it, and it didn't even have modular cables

22:03 <Soul_keeper> i guess this means it's reboot time ...

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