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00:18 <Soul_keeper> is the 6 pin power connector on recent video cards mandatory ?
00:23 <bryanUC_> I think so
00:24 <Soul_keeper> what about the 8-pin connector on recent motherboards ?
00:37 <bryanUC_> I hate that connector
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01:44 <Tank_Master> Soul_keeper: yes, if the 6 pic connector is present on the vid card, you must have power supplyed to it
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01:44 <Tank_Master> the 8pic connector is backwards compatible with the 4pin
01:45 <Soul_keeper> so all 4 of my 400 to 550 watt psu's are now worthless ...
01:45 <Tank_Master> but the 8pin will give a more stable power supply tot he mobo, thus usualy cna o/c better
01:45 <Tank_Master> can*
01:45 <Tank_Master> not worthless
01:45 <Tank_Master> you can get a molex to 6pin adaptor
01:46 <Tank_Master> but if you dont want them, ill take them
01:47 <Soul_keeper> can't run that untill i buy a new psu i guess ...
01:48 <Tank_Master> your PS not have the 6pin VGA connector?
01:50 <Soul_keeper> i guess i got one with the 6 pin
01:50 <Soul_keeper> that's my situation
01:52 <Soul_keeper> so if i take that thermalright with the 6-pin then i have to put my 400 watter on my other c2d system, that means 20-pin for a 24-pin main connector
01:54 <Soul_keeper> i mean thermaltake
01:56 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, you done talking to me now ?
01:59 <Tank_Master> sorry, no
01:59 <Tank_Master> why?
02:00 <Tank_Master> you can usually use a 20 pin adaptor in a 24pin socket
02:01 <Tank_Master> or get a converter
02:01 <Soul_keeper> this is rediculous
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02:01 <Soul_keeper> i fully expected my 100 dolar psu's to last untill they didn't have enough power to power a system build
02:02 <Soul_keeper> now i likely gotta pay 200 bucks for a psu
02:02 <Tank_Master> well, its more likely that the PS will give out first
02:02 <Tank_Master> with CPUs and motherboards becomming more efficent
02:02 <Tank_Master> its just the highend vid cards that keep drawing more power
02:03 <Tank_Master> what do you need 850 watts for?
02:03 <Tank_Master> sli 9800x2?
02:04 <Soul_keeper> because anything less don't have all the cool connectors
02:04 <Tank_Master> ahh
02:04 <Soul_keeper> i want 8 6 and 4 pin
02:04 <Soul_keeper> and the modular removeable cables is nice
02:04 <Tank_Master> the motherboards either have n 8 or a 4
02:04 <Tank_Master> not both
02:05 <efc> I think it will add on your power bill to have a much bigger PSU than you need? They may not be very efficient in that part of their operating range
02:05 <Tank_Master> no
02:05 <Tank_Master> all PS will only consume as much power as the system demands
02:05 <Soul_keeper> efc, no it'll just use what the system drawls
02:05 <efc> ... they have a non-100% efficiency, and it is not constant over the range
02:06 <Tank_Master> and is gineral the same efficency conversion down to around 25-30%
02:06 <Tank_Master> load
02:06 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015 here's a brand new model for 100 bucks
02:06 <Tank_Master> most PS are ~75%-80% AC to DC conversion
02:06 <Soul_keeper> 650 would be plenty and a worthy upgrade to my 550
02:07 <Tank_Master> mine is a 680w ;)
02:07 <Soul_keeper> the ones i'm looking at have a 85% efficiency rate
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02:07 <Tank_Master> has 2 6pin VGA connectors ;)
02:07 <Romulus> Title: 80 Plus PSU - List (at 80plus.org)
02:07 <Soul_keeper> who makes your psu ?
02:07 <Tank_Master> thermaltake
02:08 <Soul_keeper> antec has just always been my favorite psu maker, kinda don't wanna change
02:08 <Tank_Master> mine has been thermaltake
02:08 <Tank_Master> same with heatsinks
02:08 <Soul_keeper> i got this thermaltake one from a local shop last year cause i was in a bind, and they didn't have antec
02:08 <Tank_Master> but nothing wrong with antech
02:08 <Soul_keeper> thermalright is my favorite heatsink company
02:09 <Tank_Master> antec and thermaltake are just about all I will consider
02:10 <efc> Nice graph: http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3231&p=10
02:11 <Soul_keeper> that last PSU i linked from newegg don't say if it has 6-pin connectors or not
02:20 * KathrynM is back (gone 05:17:58)
02:20 <Tank_Master> wb
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02:21 <KathrynM> sorta back
02:21 <KathrynM> need to see if someone on #fedora can help me
02:21 <Tank_Master> then why are you here?
02:21 <Tank_Master> ;)
02:21 <Romulus> what did you see the use of the app dir, but I need to tuck you in? not aussie too?
02:21 <KathrynM> making trouble ;)
02:22 <Tank_Master> thought so
02:22 * KathrynM has no idea how to install linux w/o a gui
02:22 * Wabbit67 can't install linux period
02:23 <Soul_keeper> it's easy
02:23 <Tank_Master> who would want a linux period?
02:24 <Soul_keeper> i havn't used windows since like 2003
02:24 <Tank_Master> you dont know what your missing then
02:24 <Tank_Master> ;)
02:24 <Soul_keeper> lol
02:24 <Soul_keeper> constant reboots, and required upgrades ?
02:24 <Tank_Master> last updates didnt require an update
02:25 <Tank_Master> reboot*
02:25 <Tank_Master> and what were you rebooting for other than updates anyway?
02:25 <Wabbit67> power outages
02:25 <Soul_keeper> i havn't been required to update anything or reboot in 5yrs with linux ...
02:25 <Tank_Master> well, your not requiered to update windows either
02:26 <Tank_Master> doesnt meen you shouldnt
02:26 <mweltin> recomended though
02:26 <KathrynM> mweltin!
02:26 <Tank_Master> same with linux
02:26 <mweltin> KathrynM!
02:26 <Tank_Master> updates are recommended
02:26 <Soul_keeper> well i no longer have to call MS and spend an hour on the phone trying to get their voice recognition to recognize my 60 or so digits to ensure that i do indeed own windows ...
02:26 <KathrynM> trying to install Fedora without a GUI
02:27 <mweltin> I went diving with a korean exectutive today. He dropped way too much money and chartered a boat that I was invited on. Good times.
02:27 <Tank_Master> I have never need to call them
02:27 <Romulus> you realize electrolysis is like an internet IDE
02:27 <KathrynM> nice
02:27 <Wabbit67> mw you better give us a discount if we ever make it to your island
02:27 <mweltin> KathrynM, why not slackware?
02:27 <Tank_Master> sounds fun, mweltin
02:27 <mweltin> we are going out again tomorrow.
02:28 <KathrynM> cause I'm using Fedora on my other laptop and I"m no adventerous to figure out a new distro
02:29 <mweltin> that guy has some nice equipement too. Video and still shot cameras with beautiful underwater housings.
02:29 <mweltin> so why not the GUI KathrynM
02:29 <KathrynM> nice
02:29 <KathrynM> stupid ati graphics
02:29 <mweltin> nice guy too.
02:29 <mweltin> hahaahah
02:29 <KathrynM> yeah yeah yeah
02:29 <KathrynM> laugh all you want
02:29 <Tank_Master> yes, ATI is stupid
02:29 <mweltin> in the end you will be happy with them (ati that is)
02:29 <KathrynM> here's the directions I got
02:29 <KathrynM> I then had to download the ATI driver for the X1250 from the ATI site on another machine, move it from a USB flash drive to the hard drive and run it from the command line, then I ran aticonfig --resolution=0,1280x800 to create an xorg.conf, then [b]startx[b] to start the GUI.
02:29 <Tank_Master> I never have
02:30 <zombie67> is the issue ATI? or the distro ability to deal with ati?
02:30 <KathrynM> I think I'll be find once i figure out how to get that installer from the flash drive to the hard drive
02:30 <Tank_Master> its always ATI
02:30 <mweltin> at least there were drivers. I have a radeon with a driver some guy wrote.
02:30 <KathrynM> ouch
02:30 <Tank_Master> even on windows distros they dont work quite right
02:30 <KathrynM> so since the folks at #fedora aren't being very helpful
02:31 <KathrynM> mweltin, how do I mount a usb drive from the cli?
02:31 <mweltin> depends a little
02:31 <Tank_Master> ahh, the joys of unix
02:31 <zombie67> man mount
02:31 <mweltin> but mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt
02:32 <mweltin> finding the right device name is the trick.
02:32 <KathrynM> oh that makes my head hurt
02:32 <zombie67> with ubuntu, flash drives mount utomatically when inserted
02:33 <Soul_keeper> use lsusb to make sure the device was indeed detected, check you dmesg |more to see what device name it was assigned
02:33 <mweltin> trouble with auto-mount is you don't get to pick the file system.
02:33 <mweltin> that is why I dont' use it.
02:34 <mweltin> I user NTFS, Reiser, and ext2, and what does mac use now?
02:35 <zombie67> um
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02:36 <zombie67> Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
02:36 <zombie67> leopard has some new stuff available, but not yet default
02:36 <mweltin> my GF got a new iBook a few weeks ago, not sure what it has.
02:37 <Tank_Master> Ive tryed out using exFAT on my flash drives
02:37 <mweltin> nice box though.
02:37 <Tank_Master> didnt notice much improvement in speed
02:37 <mweltin> exFAT ?
02:37 <Tank_Master> new - needs vista SP1 or server 2008 to support it
02:37 <zombie67> not a new iBook. no such thing since intel
02:37 <Tank_Master> is a file system spicifily for removable flash
02:38 <zombie67> ooh! what about the old iBook?! new toy for you
02:38 <mweltin> macbook I can't keep those stupid (over priced) names straight.
02:38 <Tank_Master> im sure it wont be long before linus supports it (if it dosent already)
02:38 <mweltin> what makes it special?
02:38 <Tank_Master> better i/o throughput
02:39 <Tank_Master> better support for large storage devices
02:39 <mweltin> adn if it needs vista I'm not gonna run that for another year at least, maybe never.
02:39 <Romulus> then that was determined to be sure.
02:39 <zombie67> only the MacBook Pro is overpriced. the MacBook is less expensive than competition
02:39 <Tank_Master> and its geard for flash, so less overhead when used on a flash device
02:39 <mweltin> better than, compaired to what VFAT?
02:39 <Romulus> Title: exFAT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
02:40 <Tank_Master> better than FAT, or vFAT, yes
02:40 <zombie67> the new/hot FS startes with X or Z....
02:41 <zombie67> xen...zan...something like that
02:41 <Tank_Master> not sure I have heard of it
02:41 <mweltin> well when tank says "better" I'm assuming he is reading some MS article, or at least one funded by them. Better is relative to something else.
02:41 <KathrynM> woo hoo
02:41 <zombie67> ZFS!
02:42 <KathrynM> got it mounted and copied the driver to ~
02:42 <mweltin> what was the device name?
02:42 <Romulus> Title: ZFS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
02:42 <Tank_Master> by better, I mean its faster and supports larger drives
02:43 * KathrynM crosses fingers
02:43 <KathrynM> it's installing the driver
02:44 <mweltin> faster and larger than what? An old file system from the 60's?
02:44 <mweltin> or say ext3
02:44 <Tank_Master> yes, amasing how long FAT has been around
02:45 <Tank_Master> yes its still used because its bout the only FS all OSs can read n right to
02:46 <KathrynM> yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:46 <KathrynM> I've got a gui
02:46 <mweltin> nice, now open a terminal and get some work done.
02:46 <KathrynM> lol
02:46 <KathrynM> let me actually install it to the hd first
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02:51 <mweltin> brb gotta wash off this salt water, can't take it any more.
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02:57 <Wabbit98> is there a way to save a video from youtube onto my computer so I can upload it onto another site?
03:00 <Tank_Master> yes
03:00 <Wabbit98> can you tell me how?
03:00 <Tank_Master> with IE, there is an add-on called IE7pro
03:00 * Wabbit98 uses Mozilla
03:01 <Tank_Master> itll allow you to download youtoube and google vidieo
03:02 <Wabbit98> how about if I am not using IE
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03:02 <Wabbit98> maybe mw knows
03:03 <KathrynM> there's gotta be a FF plugin for that
03:03 <Wabbit98> no clue
03:04 <KathrynM> take a look at that
03:04 <KathrynM> might be helpful
03:07 <mweltin> that uses youtubeloader.com
03:07 <Wabbit98> well that didn't work
03:08 <mweltin> did you read the full page.
03:08 <mweltin> there are some strange instructions.
03:08 <Romulus> Title: Download ANY YouTube Video (at youtubeloader.com)
03:09 <Romulus> Title: Download ANY YouTube Video (at www.youtubeloader.com)
03:12 <mweltin> time to get to work, later all.
03:12 <mweltin> congats on the gui KathrynM
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03:20 <mweltin> Tank is there a "hosts" file in windows?
03:21 <mweltin> poor mans dns type deal? where windows will look first for a domains IP before asking for it from a dns?
03:22 <mweltin> mmmmm no? ok thanks later
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03:25 <KathrynM> 687 MB of update
03:25 <KathrynM> I'll be here a while :)
03:30 <Tank_Master> host file in refernce to what?
03:30 <Tank_Master> oh, yes
03:30 <Tank_Master> but if you qwere here, I would tell you
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05:46 * CoderForLife wakes up
05:46 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
05:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 47.9°F / 8.8°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 9.2mph / 14.8km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers mainly this afternoon...possibly mixed with snow showers. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight - (2 more messages)
05:47 <CoderForLife> &more
05:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until (1 more message)
05:47 <CoderForLife> &more
05:47 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 10:49 AM EDT on March 22, 2008;
05:48 <KathrynM> mornin
05:56 * CoderForLife moans in response
05:58 <CoderForLife> why does morning come so early?
05:58 <KathrynM> we should outlaw mornings
05:59 <CoderForLife> where do I sign up?
05:59 <KathrynM> over there ---------->
05:59 * CoderForLife runs that way
06:00 <KathrynM> <---------- oh waitk, sorry, it's over there
06:00 * KathrynM wishes these updates would download faster
06:00 * CoderForLife arrives from that way <---------------
06:00 <KathrynM> i've been at it for 2.5 hours
06:00 <CoderForLife> are you giving me the run-around?
06:00 <KathrynM> nah
06:00 <KathrynM> never
06:01 <CoderForLife> ah OK
06:04 <KathrynM> dinner has been successfully compiled :)
06:06 <CoderForLife> then it's done
06:06 <CoderForLife> ship it
06:07 <KathrynM> doing that right now :)
06:07 <KathrynM> it's a very good build
06:09 <CoderForLife> it's not spam, is it?
06:09 <KathrynM> nope
06:10 <CoderForLife> good
06:10 <KathrynM> shrimp, spinach, onions and carrots all sauteed together and then mixed with couscous
06:10 <KathrynM> but spam (the food variety) is very popular in korea
06:10 <CoderForLife> I liked Spam growing up, but don't have much use for it now
06:11 * CoderForLife looks for a free, redistributable, fast, command-line-driven unzip utility
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06:15 <DerMeister> 7zip?
06:15 <CoderForLife> just downloaded PKWARE and PicoZip to try
06:17 <CoderForLife> yeah - I'll look at 7-zip also - thanks DerMeister
06:18 <DerMeister> I has a really good compression ratio, too. Although it may be slow when compressing and may require a lot of ram then... But unzipping should be quite fast and 7zip can work with a lot of different formats... and it should be free :)
06:20 <CoderForLife> yup - my interest is unzipping under control of another program that wants to look at things in zip archives (supporting RAR, ARC, etc would be a bonus)
06:20 <CoderForLife> got 3 candidates to look at during breakfast
06:21 <CoderForLife> now...
06:21 <CoderForLife> breakfast!
06:21 <CoderForLife> brb
06:27 <CoderForLife> b w/b
06:28 <KathrynM> finally. all downloaded.
06:28 * KathrynM wonders how many hours to install
06:29 <KathrynM> AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:29 <KathrynM> yum just barfed on me
06:30 <CoderForLife> now you'll have to "yum clean" it up
06:30 <KathrynM> what the hell do I do now?
06:31 <KathrynM> it's all koffice stuff
06:31 <KathrynM> I don't use koffice (it sucks)
06:31 <KathrynM> can I just uninstall it?
06:31 <CoderForLife> but it starts with K....
06:31 <KathrynM> true
06:31 * KathrynM bangs head on desk
06:32 <DerMeister> yum's a strange tool... I don't like it.
06:32 <KathrynM> oh well. I'll see if it'll let me get rid of it :)
06:32 <CoderForLife> yum remove
06:32 <KathrynM> the worst thing that happens is I jump through the hoops and reinstall
06:32 * CoderForLife gets out his set of flaming hoops
06:33 * CoderForLife starts a large bonfire
06:33 <CoderForLife> did you want your hoops stationary, or being juggled?
06:33 <KathrynM> so much fun not to have x
06:34 <CoderForLife> shhh - I am really a Linux command line guy
06:35 <CoderForLife> I guess I'm going to do the Saturday morning errands
06:35 <CoderForLife> I'll bbl
06:35 <DerMeister> One of my linux boxes has just two cables plugged in... One for power and one for network... :)
06:36 <DerMeister> No need for X on this one :)
06:36 <CoderForLife> eggzackly
06:36 <CoderForLife> I'm off
06:36 * CoderForLife waves a command line reference sheet
06:37 <KathrynM> I know just enough CLI stuff to be dangerous.
06:39 <KathrynM> woot. uninstalling koffice worked
06:39 <KathrynM> now all the updates are installing
07:19 <KathrynM> now that I have boinc running in 64 bit fedora, what projects?
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07:30 <desti> all u want
08:07 <xcamel> 'LO
08:20 <xcamel> &weather 12074
08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 19.9°F / -6.7°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 40. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Cold with highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph.;
08:20 <xcamel> &more
08:20 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: That's all, there is no more.
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08:39 <xcamel> good idea
08:39 <KathrynM> I'm trying to figure out why all of a sudden I can't get the manager to connect to the core client.
08:39 * KathrynM shrugs
08:39 <KathrynM> I'll fight with it more tomorrow.
08:40 <xcamel> in a console - type 'killall boinc' then restart it..
08:40 <KathrynM> I'm too tired.
08:40 <KathrynM> I've been working on installing Fedora since 2 this afternoon.
08:40 <KathrynM> I'll figure it out when I've got a clear head :)
08:42 <xcamel> lol
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08:54 <xcamel> hi
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09:11 <xcamel> good joke:
09:11 <xcamel> A Japanese doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a liver out of one man, put it into another, and have him out looking for work in six weeks."
09:11 <xcamel> A German doctor says, "That is nothing. We can take a lung out of one person, put it into another, and have him out looking for work in four weeks."
09:12 <xcamel> A British doctor says, "In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have both of them out looking for work in two weeks."
09:12 <xcamel> The American doctor, not to be outdone, interjected, "You guys are way behind. We are about to take a woman with no brains, and no heart, put her in the White House, and very soon half the country will be out looking for work."
09:12 <xcamel> hehehe...
09:15 <DerMeister> hehe
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09:22 <KathrynM> woo hoo!
09:22 <xcamel> 'lo Jord
09:22 <KathrynM> I think Enterprise is on.
09:22 <Ageless> g'afternoon
09:22 <KathrynM> Hiya Jord
09:23 <Ageless> hmm, focus is nice as well, before typing a whole sentence
09:23 <Romulus> leaving for home in 35 minutes
09:24 <CoderForLife> home from the grocery store, gas station, bank and McDonald's
09:24 <xcamel> easy way to blow $200 nowadays..
09:24 <Ageless> home from town, we got two hail and snow showers over us. brrr.
09:24 <CoderForLife> $249
09:24 <CoderForLife> lol xcamel
09:25 <xcamel> 'nuff said..
09:25 <CoderForLife> that's *before* we implement her health care plan
09:25 <xcamel> oh.. you caught the joke..
09:25 <CoderForLife> yup - I read backwards
09:26 <CoderForLife> that's 2 back-to-back grocery store weeks at $200+
09:26 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
09:26 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 39.4°F / 4.1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 6.3mph / 10.1km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers mainly this afternoon...possibly mixed with snow showers. Highs in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight (2 more messages)
09:27 <Ageless> are chocolate bunnies that expensive over there?
09:27 <CoderForLife> it's the bunny toll booth at the exit of the store
09:27 <xcamel> the good ones are..
09:28 <CoderForLife> but... we bought no bunnies
09:28 <Ageless> yes, I saw the big egg in London (on tv). Costs 650 pounds... or weight it. either way...
09:32 <Ageless> quick, report your primegrids now the server is up
09:33 <Ageless> oh, damn, can't.
09:33 <Ageless> server can't open database
09:33 <xcamel> got to get triaric to generate some more work...
09:34 <Ageless> would be nice if it were some Windows work... before Kathryn's out of reach, never to be overtaken again. ;)
09:36 <KathrynM> hahaha
09:37 <DerMeister> I got my primgerig wus reported and even got some new... but mysql seems to be bitchy again...
09:38 <xcamel> the last 4 finally reported..
09:40 <DerMeister> I never understood why the boincserver was designed to work *only* with mysql...
09:40 <Ageless> I'm being deferred for another hour.
09:45 <xcamel> I'd be looking for some more LHC about now..
09:45 <CoderForLife> bbiab
09:45 <xcamel> not that I'm ever going to catch Doug..
09:48 <Ageless> want my two?
09:49 <xcamel> I just wish they'd take their "twofer" limit off and make it something reasonable..
09:50 <xcamel> ....like 20
09:51 <Ageless> I thought it was set to something like 20 already.
09:51 <Ageless> I only get one or two as I have my queue set so low
09:52 <Ageless> what with two CPDN Beta models and also work for 9 other projects, I don't really need 45 tasks of each project
09:53 <xcamel> I gave up on cdpn
09:53 <Romulus> leave off the bat? the level of fragmentation if getting disconcerting.
09:53 <KathrynM> I'm heading for bed.
09:53 <DerMeister> hmmm... one of my machines ran just out of work... It's attached to primgerid (but doing only primegen), lhc, depspid and simap... all out of work there -.-
09:53 <KathrynM> laterz all
09:53 <xcamel> &nn
09:53 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
09:53 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
09:54 <xcamel> well.. need to go feed the animals...
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10:09 <kutio> hello world
10:09 <kutio> when i try to run boinc on my debian testing amd 64 , I have an error: cannot execute binary file
10:11 <CoderForLife> the world bids you welcome, kutio
10:12 <CoderForLife> I am not a debianite, and therefore will refrain from providing bogus advice
10:16 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
10:17 <CoderForLife> oops wrong one
10:17 <CoderForLife> boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
10:19 <kutio> Yes CoderForLife
10:19 <CoderForLife> OK
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11:48 <xcamel> re-back
12:11 <xcamel> creeping above freezing..
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12:17 <xcamel> poof..
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12:20 <wdsmia> &wx 50265
12:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 44.2°F / 6.8°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1024.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4.9mph / 7.9km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. Isolated rain showers in the afternoon. High in the lower 40s. North wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of showers 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of snow. Low in the mid 20s. Northwest (1 more message)
12:20 <wdsmia> &more
12:20 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of light snow showers in the morning. High in the lower 40s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph.;
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13:08 <Rookie_69> My only completed Orbit WU called me an invalid and awarded all the credit to Xcamel. :-(
13:15 <Rookie_69> I may be gimped up, but I'm not an invalid.
13:15 <desti> l0l
13:19 * CoderForLife looks to see how his orbit wu is progressing
13:21 <CoderForLife> it's running, while waiting to run
13:21 <CoderForLife> multi-talented
13:22 <CoderForLife> my 4 CPUS are running 4 instances of QMC and 1 orbit
13:24 <Rookie_69> Eight Win WU's completed for a total of zero claimed credit on 3.4 ghz zeon for Cellutions... Quick machine!
13:28 <Rookie_69> My Athlon 64 is suffering from a split personality too.
13:29 <Rookie_69> Maybe Pasquale is getting greedy...
13:29 <Rookie_69> ;-)
13:33 * Rookie_69 thinks Tricaric is too busy fighting off angry credit-whores.
13:34 <CoderForLife> hmm
13:34 * CoderForLife looks
13:36 <CoderForLife> that's my 'doze desktop
13:36 <CoderForLife> it's not doing any orbit work
13:37 <CoderForLife> my fc8 machine has one WU - the first and only one it's gotten
13:39 <Rookie_69> 06 march 08...
13:39 <Rookie_69> Must have been some test WU's.
13:39 <CoderForLife> yeah, my XP workstation, doing orbit random number generator tests
13:40 <CoderForLife> afaik, there's no orbit work for Windows
13:40 <Rookie_69> Not yet.
13:40 <CoderForLife> that's why I set it up on my big box
13:41 <Rookie_69> I only have one box running linux so I connected that one.
13:47 * Rookie_69 wonders why he keeps finding green sequins in carpet...
13:48 <CoderForLife> I have more, but I want to get to 1M QMC first
13:48 <Rookie_69> ... then you get a free earthquake?
13:49 <Romulus> needs to get new work it tells me the sigs do not use Zips here.
13:50 <Rookie_69> Wrong @home...
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13:55 <Rookie_69> I was thinking of QCN.
14:02 <CoderForLife> ah
14:02 <CoderForLife> I'm thinking about walking out to the mailbox
14:03 <CoderForLife> when that happens, I usually lay down until the feeling goes away
14:04 <DerMeister> lol
14:05 <Rookie_69> Might be AOL free CD in mailbox...
14:08 <CoderForLife> you never know - it's been awhile since I've done skeet shooting
14:09 <CoderForLife> off to the street - bbiab
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14:28 <CoderForLife> baaack
14:29 <Rookie_69> Ewe in mailbox?
14:30 <CoderForLife> One piece of mail, same as I got at w@#% - local seminar on SOA
14:31 <Rookie_69> Soldiers Of Armageddon?
14:31 <Rookie_69> ... Survivors...?
14:31 <CoderForLife> not quite
14:31 <CoderForLife> not Society of Actuaries
14:32 <CoderForLife> not Sisters of America
14:32 <Rookie_69> Sin Of Abstinence...
14:32 <CoderForLife> actually, Service Oriented Architecture
14:33 <Rookie_69> Nowhere near as interesting...
14:33 <CoderForLife> quite right
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14:34 <CoderForLife> speaking of actuaries....
14:35 <CoderForLife> Do you know how to tell the difference between an introverted and an extroverted actuary?
14:36 <Rookie_69> No, but I'm afraid you're going to tell me.
14:36 <CoderForLife> yep
14:36 <Rookie_69> Lol.
14:36 <CoderForLife> An introverted actuary looks at his shoes when he's talking to you.
14:36 <CoderForLife> An extroverted actuary looks at *your* shoes when he's talking to you.
14:36 * CoderForLife loves humor involving actuaries
14:36 <Rookie_69> Lol.
14:37 <Rookie_69> Shoo!
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14:42 <Rookie_69> I generally look anywhere but at your eyes when talking to you... Do you think I'm a closet actuary?
14:43 <Rookie_69> Nah. Math and statistics usually confuse me.
14:44 <CoderForLife> I guess my assessment would depend on exactly where you do look...
14:45 * CoderForLife naps at his keyboard
14:45 <CoderForLife> cloudy, very cool day
14:45 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
14:45 <Rookie_69> If your name was Dawn instead of Don, then mayde a tad north of your shoes...
14:45 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 35.7°F / 2.1°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6.9mph / 11.1km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy with isolated snow showers. Near steady temperatures in the upper 30s. North winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. Chance of snow 20 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming (1 more message)
14:46 <CoderForLife> lol
14:46 <CoderForLife> not much incentive to work in the yard with snow showers
14:46 <CoderForLife> &more
14:46 <Romulus> CoderForLife: partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 20s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of snow showers in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.;
14:47 <CoderForLife> a bit warmer tomorrow
14:47 <Rookie_69> & wx cxmi
14:47 <CoderForLife> I need to get the leaf blower out and coax the ones out that hid from me last fall
14:47 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
14:48 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw
14:48 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 30.0Â°F / -1.1Â°C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa | Conditions: Light Snow Showers | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15.4mph / 24.8km/h | Updated: 3:48 PM ADT; Today - Flurries ending this afternoon then cloudy with sunny periods and 40 percent chance of flurries. Local amount 2 cm(0.8 in). Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph). High -1C(30F).; Tonight (1 more message)
14:48 <CoderForLife> &wx pitch
14:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
14:48 <CoderForLife> &wx roll
14:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
14:48 <Rookie_69> Lol.
14:49 <CoderForLife> &more Rookie_69
14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: - Cloudy periods with 60 percent chance of flurries. Wind west 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) diminishing to 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) this evening. Low -7C(19F).; Sunday - A mix of sun and cloud with 60 percent chance of flurries in the morning. Clearing in the afternoon. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph). High -2C(28F).;
14:49 <CoderForLife> &wx hell
14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 53.7°F / 12.1°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 1.4mph / 2.3km/h ; Today - Cloudy through mid morning...then becoming partly sunny. Scattered light snow showers...ending around 8 am. Highs 33 to 37. Northeast winds 5 to 15 mph...turning to north. Chance of snow 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly (1 more message)
14:49 <CoderForLife> &more
14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: cloudy...becoming mostly cloudy toward daybreak. Lows 19 to 23. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. Numerous snow showers developing from late morning on. Accumulations around an inch possible. Highs 32 to 36. Variable winds 10 mph or less. Chance of snow 70 percent.;
14:49 <Rookie_69> YAW is the local Navy/Air Force airfield.
14:49 <CoderForLife> &wx heaven
14:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error
14:50 <Rookie_69> &wx vulcan
14:50 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 43Â°F / 6Â°C | Humidity: 17% | Pressure: in / hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM MDT; Today - Sunny. Fog patches in a few localities near noon. High 11C(52F). UV index 3 or moderate.; Tonight - Clear. Low -6C(21F).; Sunday - Sunny. Increasing cloudiness late in the morning. Wind becoming southwest 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (1 more message)
14:51 <Rookie_69> &wx alert
14:51 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: -27Â°F / -33Â°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM MDT; Scattered Clouds. High:-27 ° F. / -33 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:-29 ° F. / -34 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-27 ° F. / -33 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-34 ° F. / -37 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-21 ° F. / -29 ° C.; Partly (1 more message)
14:51 <CoderForLife> yeow
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14:52 <Rookie_69> Close enough to North Pole...
14:52 <CoderForLife> too cold for frost
14:55 <Romulus> Title: Alert, Nunavut - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
14:56 <CoderForLife> heh - closest city is Yellowknife 1133 mile away
14:57 <Rookie_69> City... Pop: 18,700. Lol.
14:58 <Rookie_69> Big for up there.
14:58 <CoderForLife> pop of Alert - 5
15:01 <Rookie_69> Somebody left a lot of dirty dishes lying around and "I" have to wash them!
15:01 <CoderForLife> um - that's a positive five, not negative five =)
15:01 * Rookie_69 lives alone :-(
15:01 <Rookie_69> Lol.
15:02 <CoderForLife> I have a spouse to do that stuff
15:02 <Rookie_69> Wanna trade for a week or so?
15:02 <CoderForLife> you for her? no way
15:02 <Rookie_69> Lol.
15:02 <CoderForLife> lol
15:03 <CoderForLife> speaking of snow pics (weren't we?), let me PM a link to you
15:03 <Rookie_69> Doug has offered to share the expense of a wife if I find one...
15:03 <Rookie_69> K.
15:21 <Romulus> if you're not using...
15:21 <Tank_Master> grate vid from LHC
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15:38 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jord.
15:39 <Ageless> Hi Glenn
15:39 <Rookie_69> Back so soon?
15:39 <Ageless> there's nothing on TV, so um... yes.
15:40 <Rookie_69> Lol.
15:40 <Tank_Master> lol
15:40 <Tank_Master> grate vid from LHC
15:40 <Tank_Master> thatll pas some time
15:41 <Ageless> I could probably use this time to work a bit more on some of the slide show pictures I am making for AIS, but I can't find the focus for that either. :(
15:41 <Tank_Master> lol
15:41 <Ageless> I could go fill in my tax return forms.
15:42 <Tank_Master> hehe
15:42 <Ageless> but you have to be pretty bored for that and I'm not that bored.
15:42 * Rookie_69 should fill tax return...
15:42 <Ageless> you too, huh? ;)
15:43 <Rookie_69> Forms in pocket for a while now...
15:44 <Ageless> it's all electronic here, but that doesn't make it much easier.
15:45 <CoderForLife> I'll bbl
15:47 <Rookie_69> Still need to wander into nether regions of govt to find out some of it's nasty little secrets...
15:47 <Ageless> I thought you had the evening news for that?
15:48 <xcamel> back again
15:48 <Tank_Master> wb
15:48 <Rookie_69> Even they won't touch Taxation Canada...
15:49 <Tank_Master> :)
15:49 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
15:50 <Ageless> gonna make another cup of tea, brb
15:51 <xcamel> needed a cup of coffee myself..
15:51 <Rookie_69> So why do you get credit while I get labeled as an invalid, jay?
15:51 <Rookie_69> LOl.
15:51 <Rookie_69> ?
15:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.
15:51 <Rookie_69> Better.
15:52 <xcamel> quad successfully retrieved from the 'southeast 40'
15:52 <xcamel> twernt easy
15:54 <Rookie_69> Aye, but will she live, Jim?
15:54 <Tank_Master> never
15:54 <Tank_Master> she's dead, Jim
15:54 <Rookie_69> :-(
15:56 <xcamel> alive, but broken
15:58 <Rookie_69> ... but did you have fun?
15:59 <xcamel> IP kill >> 18.104.22.168
15:59 <xcamel> not really
16:00 <Rookie_69> ... before it broke...
16:00 <xcamel> mud up to your nutz in places
16:00 <xcamel> yeah, but that was last weekend..
16:00 <Romulus> coulda sworn that didn't help
16:02 <xcamel> bbiab - needs a reboot
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16:16 <xcamel> &wx 12074
16:16 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 37.3°F / 2.9°C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.93in / 1013.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 18. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds around 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Cold with lows around 17. West winds 5 to 10 mph.;
16:30 <CoderForLife> PM response Rookie_69
16:31 <CoderForLife> plinked it, xcamel - thanks
16:31 <xcamel> as long as it's not 'pms response'
16:33 <CoderForLife> it might be - trying to decode
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16:57 <KathrynM> you gotta be kidding me.
16:57 <KathrynM> this orbit has been running like 48 hours
16:57 <KathrynM> it finished with a cpu time of under 7
16:58 <KathrynM> and cpu time was way over 7 hours before
16:58 <CoderForLife> needs some work
16:58 <KathrynM> just a bit
16:58 <KathrynM> I dunno when the cpu time reset
16:58 <Iphorita> Hi.
16:58 <KathrynM> but it wasn't when boinc stopped started for logrotate.
16:59 <KathrynM> because that was under 2 hours ago
16:59 <CoderForLife> did the WU stop when boinc stopped?
16:59 <KathrynM> when boinc told it to stop?
16:59 <KathrynM> no
16:59 <KathrynM> when boinc was shut down, yeah, afaik
17:00 <Iphorita> I'm looking for some distributed computing from your brains.
17:00 * CoderForLife searches
17:00 <KathrynM> it's 6 am, my brain doesn't computer
17:00 <KathrynM> errr
17:00 <KathrynM> compute
17:00 <CoderForLife> no brains here
17:00 <CoderForLife> axe away
17:01 <Iphorita> Clustered brains
17:01 <Iphorita> I'm federating people around a scientific research
17:01 <CoderForLife> I'm running on battery backup
17:02 * CoderForLife makes listening noises
17:02 <Iphorita> And I just need a quick e-mail checking as english isn't my native language
17:02 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
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17:03 <KathrynM> How soon do you need it?
17:04 <Iphorita> One month or two ?
17:04 <KathrynM> I can proof read it, after I have a few more hours of sleep :)
17:04 <KathrynM> not the site, I'm a lowly English teacher :)
17:05 <Iphorita> It must be sent before tomorrow :-/
17:05 <KathrynM> tomorrow = ?
17:05 <KathrynM> what time is it for you?
17:05 <Iphorita> 22:05 France time
17:05 <KathrynM> it's only 6 am here.
17:05 <Iphorita> Huhu
17:05 <KathrynM> I won't be up for another 4 hours or so (it's Sunday :p)
17:06 <Iphorita> So you're a zombie right now I suppose ?
17:06 <KathrynM> Not too far from it.
17:06 <KathrynM> My guinea pig needed water. The clunking of the little ball in the tube of her water bottle woke me up.
17:06 <Iphorita> Perfect - my english skills are zombie-like
17:07 <Iphorita> Poor being
17:07 <CoderForLife> all teachers are afflicted with some levels of zombieism
17:07 <CoderForLife> a job requirement
17:07 <KathrynM> Is that why I want to claw my eyes out on a regular basis?
17:07 <nickuwo1> your english sounds pretty good to me :)
17:07 <CoderForLife> that's one of the mild symptoms
17:07 <Iphorita> That's cute nickuwol
17:08 <KathrynM> I'm still trying to figure out how a student got "horizontality" in a diary entry.
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17:08 <Iphorita> But I basically suck at grammar
17:08 <Rookie_69> Mais, Je ne parle pas Francais.
17:08 <KathrynM> I didn't even know horizontality was a word.
17:08 <KathrynM> mweltin!
17:08 <mweltin> it is now
17:08 <Iphorita> Rooki_69 :-)
17:08 <KathrynM> ok. I'm not here.
17:08 <nickuwo1> yes, nobody likes grammar
17:08 <mweltin> I htink I just had a minor brain storm, seem obvious now that I thought about it.
17:08 <KathrynM> I'm going back to bed.
17:09 <mweltin> night
17:09 <KathrynM> so that's the thunder I've been hearing ;)
17:09 <KathrynM> &nn
17:09 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
17:09 <Iphorita> Good ni.. err, day ? KathrynM
17:09 <Iphorita> nickuwol : Could you please check my e-mail ?
17:10 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
17:11 <nickuwo1> sure... whats atypic mean?
17:11 <Iphorita> Not typical, not academic
17:11 <CoderForLife> atypical
17:12 <Iphorita> ty :-)
17:12 <xcamel> that would be it..
17:12 <nickuwo1> lines 8,9, and 10 are pretty good, no space before ? tho
17:12 <CoderForLife> away I go...
17:12 * xcamel waits for dinner..
17:12 <nickuwo1> line 3 should be "ideas"
17:13 * CoderForLife vanishes in a blinding flash of light
17:13 <Iphorita> Ty CoderForLife
17:13 <Iphorita> Ok, line 3...
17:13 <nickuwo1> can you fill me in on the context of this letter?
17:13 <nickuwo1> not sure what its for
17:13 <Rookie_69> In line 5... Who has instead of which has???
17:13 <Rookie_69> ... which have...
17:14 <Iphorita> Haha.
17:14 <Rookie_69> ... or would that be whom?
17:14 <nickuwo1> i think who is right
17:14 <Ageless> anyone who wants slides? AIS' are now done. ;)
17:16 <Iphorita> Who has, ok
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17:18 <Rookie_69> Oh. Never mind me... I'm not here.
17:18 <xcamel> yummy pizza
17:20 <nickuwo1> i pasted some changes and suggestions, might help you to look them up and decide for yourself if you like them better. I think it flows a little better tho
17:21 <Iphorita> Thank you very much.
17:21 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
17:21 <nickuwo1> np
17:21 <nickuwo1> your english is pretty good tho, not an easy lang. to learn (at least thats what I hear)
17:22 <Iphorita> My english is 2 month-old.
17:22 <nickuwo1> damn
17:22 <Iphorita> ( months ? )
17:22 <nickuwo1> that's impressive
17:22 <nickuwo1> yes
17:22 <nickuwo1> months :)
17:22 <Iphorita> Ty
17:24 <Iphorita> Well, can I help you in any way ?
17:24 <nickuwo1> hmm... I can't think of anything, but if I do, I let ya know
17:25 <nickuwo1> I mean I'll let you know
17:25 <Iphorita> :-D
17:26 <Iphorita> iphorita hosted at gmail.com is my e-mail
17:26 <Iphorita> Feel free to do so, I appreciate your help
17:26 <nickuwo1> sounds good
17:26 <Iphorita> Cya !
17:27 <nickuwo1> bye
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17:27 <Ageless> making friends?
17:28 <nickuwo1> connections baby!
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17:50 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
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17:52 <efc> Hey
18:06 <xcamel> bbl..
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18:13 <mweltin> was there a database update a while back?
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18:14 <Ageless> only broken code, I saw.
18:15 <mweltin> my workgenerator is crashing out.
18:15 <mweltin> Database error: Unknown column 'rsc_bandwidth_bound' in 'field list'
18:15 <Ageless> that was fixed and broken again and fixed again and where it's now... I dunno
18:16 <mweltin> do you know the last revision it was fixed in by chance?
18:16 <Ageless> 14948 if I am not mistaken
18:17 <mweltin> ok I'm at 14950
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18:18 <mweltin> I don't think I ran upgrade for a while
18:18 <mweltin> I'll try that
18:18 <Ageless> sorry I can't help you much further, Markus.
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18:19 <Ageless> hey Paul, this way for the Danish treat. ;)
18:19 <TheGasGiant> lol...
18:19 <TheGasGiant> heya Jord
18:19 <Ageless> how's the cat?
18:20 <TheGasGiant> not sure yet...calling the animal hospital soon
18:20 <Ageless> what happened to it?
18:20 <mweltin> sorry to hear about your cat TheGasGiant
18:20 <TheGasGiant> not sure...we were away for easter and we put him in a catery we've used before
18:21 <TheGasGiant> and they called us yesterday saying he had poo'd himself and wsa non responsive
18:21 <mweltin> there was a database update.
18:21 <TheGasGiant> thanks mweltin
18:22 <mweltin> be grateful for vets. We don't have a qualified vet on this island and its always very stressful when my dog gets sick.
18:23 <mweltin> You cat is in good, and qualified hands.
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18:23 <TheGasGiant> wow...
18:23 <Ageless> perhaps the change of food and surroundings? Selena here goes into a state when you just try to carry her out of the flat.
18:24 <TheGasGiant> yeah...the only 'problem' with the animal hospital is that it's not manned 24hrs a day
18:24 <TheGasGiant> Jord..lol...that's a possibility, but they've identified a neurological problem as well
18:25 <Ageless> poisonous mouse ;)
18:26 <TheGasGiant> hehehe...
18:26 <TheGasGiant> he's got diabetes as well..so maybe he's got some 'other' problems as well..like organ failure
18:27 <TheGasGiant> well anyway....we'll know more in an hr or so
18:29 <Ageless> good luck. Hope you don't have to put him to sleep so before Easter.
18:29 <TheGasGiant> it's easter Sunday here and my wifes b'day..so she's real happy....
18:30 <Ageless> who will now sleep on her feet? you?
18:31 <TheGasGiant> lol....i grovel at her feet now, so it's just a small change ;)
18:31 <mweltin> the server status page is gone?
18:31 <mweltin> I HATE doing boinc upgrades.
18:32 <Ageless> then just don't do boinc upgrades. wait a year, as then it **may** be stable ;)
18:32 <mweltin> LOL
18:33 <TheGasGiant> just like LHC
18:33 <desti> is flickr.com down?
18:34 <mweltin> all my customizations are gone arrrrghhhhhhhh, mmmm maby I got lucky and have them in svn somewhere.
18:35 <Ageless> oh well, at least that gives you the oportunity to change the Accpet to Accept this time around. Seriously though, don't you make backups?
18:36 <Tank_Master> mw!
18:36 <mweltin> I back up the big stuff, things like the apps themselves. I'm tripping over myself with backsup that, but the boinc proejct stuff nto always.
18:36 <mweltin> Tank_Master!
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18:37 <mweltin> did you get some work ?
18:37 <Tank_Master> I am now
18:37 <Tank_Master> it was backed of for meny moons
18:37 <Tank_Master> off*
18:38 <Romulus> word of warning. when orbit says waiting to run as root>
18:38 <mweltin> there was a db update I failed to notice.
18:38 <mweltin> generator was crashing and I wasn't checking the logs
18:39 <Tank_Master> ahh
18:40 <mweltin> spelling error corrected
18:41 <Ageless> lol
18:41 <Tank_Master> hehe
18:41 <Ageless> ha, only for the BF
18:42 <Ageless> the GAT still has it, while ACO seems to be missing (as you expected)
18:44 <mweltin> mmmmmmmmmmm
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18:46 <xcamel> b04k3d
18:46 <mweltin> I'm supposed to be diving in an hour, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
18:47 <Tank_Master> fun stuff
18:47 <xcamel> for snails?
18:47 <Tank_Master> sea slugs
18:47 <nickuwo1> I envy you, I haven't dived in a year or two
18:47 <mweltin> no, we missed Fagatele bay yesterday and dove a sea mount outside of the harbor.
18:48 <mweltin> today is the real dive
18:48 <Romulus> well, my mod of Eric's pic of his spreadsheet scanning code
18:48 <Tank_Master> he needs to mow the sea grass
18:48 <mweltin> yes you do, I get to go twice a week. Not always in as nice a place as fagatele baythough.
18:50 <Ageless> but but but... you can't. You have to spend every minute you're not sleeping on perfecting TSP.
18:51 <Tank_Master> heh
18:51 <Ageless> tweak it, break it, repair it, be there when people have problems.
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18:51 <Tank_Master> optimize it
18:51 <Ageless> or so some people think....
18:51 <Tank_Master> and reuduse credit on it to compensate for the optimizeing..
18:51 <mweltin> LOL
18:51 <Ageless> personal time? not when you're a project admin!
18:52 <Tank_Master> LOL
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18:53 <Ageless> have an alarm go off next to your bed when someone posts on the forums... ugh. nevr mind me, I'm in a giggly mood. ;)
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18:53 <mweltin> are you an admin Ageless ?
18:54 <Ageless> luckily not, no. I only help poor souls all over the place.
18:54 <Tank_Master> lol
18:55 <mweltin> many thanks anyway. It's just you seemed to know what it is like. Your description was right on.
18:55 <Ageless> I get around, Markus.
18:56 <xcamel> hmmm.... hate that.
18:56 <Ageless> and see a lot of complaints from people. Especially the past days on Cosmo, where people really expect that the admins are available all the time. easter? Pah! They need to be there!
18:57 <Tank_Master> so true
18:57 <mweltin> I think I'm given a little slack cause its just me and my project is not as popular as Cosmo.
18:58 <Tank_Master> and you have me to give generic responces
18:58 <Tank_Master> "that is a knowen isse and is being worked on"
18:58 <Ageless> oh... we need to change that then.
18:58 <mweltin> LOL that was classic
18:58 <Tank_Master> ;)
18:58 <mweltin> it still makes me laugh
18:59 <xcamel> just because they have no life, doesn't mean the admins don't
19:00 <Ageless> you gave me credit a while back over helping you with something (forgot what it was exactly, probably something insignificant). It's always nice to get credit (on the front page). :)
19:01 <mweltin> more spelling errors I have a lot of those. Can't spell my way out of paper bag, hence I'm a programmer.
19:02 <nickuwo> sorry guys, quick question, if you add an updated version of some app, say from 1.1 to 1.2, but leave the old one, will clients re-download the new app asap, or is there some sort of trigger?
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19:04 <xcamel> who admins cosmo?
19:04 <Ageless> afaik the new app will download at the next request for work.
19:05 <Ageless> Scott Kruger
19:05 <Ageless> and Ben Wandelt
19:05 <xcamel> ah..
19:05 <nickuwo> sweet thx
19:05 <xcamel> I'd keep running it but it takes down everything when one wu crashes..
19:06 <Ageless> I still haven't had a crash of Cosmo. knocks wood. I did stop it during the change from camb 2.05 through to 2.12 ;)
19:09 <xcamel> windows?
19:09 <Ageless> yes, 2000 SP4, single CPU as well.
19:10 <Tank_Master> old
19:11 <Ageless> but sturdy. And I can still play all the games I want on it. :)
19:11 <mweltin> I gotta get ready.
19:11 <mweltin> alter guys
19:11 <mweltin> thanks for the tips.
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19:11 <Ageless> later Markus. Have fun. and watch out for the bends
19:12 <xcamel> lol
19:12 <Ageless> typing too slowly ;)
19:14 <xcamel> it happens..
19:18 <Tank_Master> what took you so long?
19:18 <Tank_Master> he ghave you an entire second to type!
19:18 <Ageless> Chatzilla wasn't in focus.
19:28 <xcamel> chatzilla is a strange client..
19:34 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:40:15)
19:34 <Ageless> true, but I didn't want to install mIRC yesterday. It works, even though you have to do everything by hand
19:34 <KathrynM> who ordered the rain?
19:35 <Ageless> I sent you some of our snow. Can't help it it turned into something else
19:35 <xcamel> did you need it?
19:35 <KathrynM> rain is fine. but not when I have to walk to the grocery store
19:35 <KathrynM> I knew I should have done that yesterday instead of fighting with Fedora.
19:36 <Ageless> can't you shop online and have it delivered?
19:36 <KathrynM> dunno
19:37 <KathrynM> I was going to go to the Old Downtown area today.
19:37 <KathrynM> But not in the rain.
19:37 <KathrynM> yo Ageless, do me a favor and go answer this guy http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2544#16040
19:37 <Ageless> ever heard of an umbrella (and not the Ryhana song ;))
19:37 <KathrynM> I can't string together a coherent thought
19:38 <Ageless> you mean that person with his linux problem? I dunno that one, have looked into it already and my lack of Linux knowledge is in my way.
19:38 <Ageless> I thought of waiting for Nicolas to do it. ;)
19:39 <KathrynM> it's the whole ubuntu build thing
19:39 <xcamel> He can upgrade the lib (not too hard)
19:39 <xcamel> if he needs graphics, then he needs the ubuntu version (which will run on suse)
19:40 <xcamel> he can even make a fake symlink of libstdc.++.so.6 to libstdc.++.so
19:40 <Ageless> perhaps a refreshing walk in the rain will clear your thoughts.
19:40 <xcamel> which would also work
19:43 <xcamel> I'm not on that boars, but you can forward my suggestions..
19:44 <xcamel> er board, even
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19:47 <Ageless> or you can register, Jay: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/dev_create_account_form.php
19:47 <Ageless> we can always use the help.
19:47 <Ageless> if you dare to be seen with us, that is.
19:50 <xcamel> I have tried to help from the very beginning - but too often get trashed for having ideas not in harmony with the communist nature of boinc.
19:53 <Ageless> I think you'll find that the developers aren't really around on those boards, not unless we summon them... and even then they don't always show. ;)
19:55 <xcamel> I participate on the email board side
19:55 <xcamel> alpha, beta, dev
20:02 <Ageless> me too, but that doesn't hold me back from also helping on forums.
20:03 <Ageless> see it as an additional challenge. :D
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20:14 <Ageless> all right, time for me to go to bed. The Formula One starts in less than 7 hours. night all.
20:15 <KathrynM> night
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20:33 <KathrynM> I'm off for a while.
20:33 <Romulus> My friend achieve to run boinc on my desktop
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20:35 <MTughan> Is 6.1 almost ready for primetime then?
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20:38 <MTughan> Hmm, no mweltin... Oh well, I'll catch him later.
20:40 <xcamel> 'lo Mike
20:40 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
20:40 <xcamel> spare time challenge for you...
20:40 <xcamel> we used to have a 'stats' function (plugin) for the bot...
20:41 <MTughan> Uh huh.
20:41 <MTughan> And... ?
20:41 <xcamel> basically it would pull the 'stats on your cell' feed using &stats [project] [user]
20:41 <xcamel> any interest?
20:42 <MTughan> Doesn't sound too hard.
20:42 <MTughan> The only thing is that it would have to have a lookup of Project URLs.
20:43 <MTughan> &list lookup
20:43 <Romulus> MTughan: add, airport, areacode, boincerr, deepthought, httpcode, port, remove, rfc, search, stateinfo, and zipcode
20:43 <xcamel> dunno if the 'boinc combined' has a simple txt feed anywhere for just &stats [user]
20:43 <MTughan> I could use that though.
20:43 <MTughan> Oh, off BOINCStats...
20:43 <xcamel> only for the combined
20:44 <xcamel> otherwise you end up with a huge database stored locally
20:44 <MTughan> Doesn't seem that there is an RSS feed for stats off of BS's site...
20:44 <MTughan> Nvm, I see it.
20:44 <xcamel> some projects list the CPID, and the associated stats
20:45 <xcamel> trick is to allow for 'no channel flood'
20:45 <xcamel> like the weather slpit to '&more'
20:45 <Romulus> ready:1 nwu_results: 100 max_wu_results: 100 then 100 absent things
20:45 <MTughan> I think that's done by the bot automatically.
20:46 <MTughan> As for BS stats, this seems to be the best I can get. http://www.boincstats.com/stats/wap_user.php?id=991407
20:46 <xcamel> think about it, or experiment a little
20:46 <MTughan> The "c" stats are total credit. I think the "r"'s are recent, but I'm not sure how that works.
20:46 <MTughan> Nvm, "r"'s are world positions.
20:47 <xcamel> r for 'rac'
20:47 <xcamel> all integer
20:47 <MTughan> No, the r stats are RAC.
20:47 <xcamel> that's what I said
20:47 <MTughan> I have an RAC of 667.679. The r there is 39556.
20:48 <xcamel> hmmm..
20:48 <MTughan> Sorry, the r stats are not RAC.
20:48 <xcamel> you'll have to hunt around a bit..
20:48 <MTughan> 39556 is my current world position though.
20:48 <xcamel> name ID to user id could be tough
20:49 <MTughan> Yeah.
20:49 <MTughan> I would either just go project by project, or use a different stats site.
20:50 <MTughan> If I did. I don't have much time at the moment, with an English book log, a Philosophy biography, and an English movie all due the week after I get back from March Break.
20:51 <MTughan> I finished off the movie today, I have a good start on the book log, but nothing's been done on the biography. Yet.
20:51 <xcamel> school work first..
20:51 <MTughan> lol, this seems so pitiful... "Contribution to BOINC total credit: 0.00043%"
20:51 <MTughan> 4.3 thousandths of a percent. xD
20:52 <MTughan> I could have a nice day with credits tomorrow though... A possibility of ~1100 credits from E@H.
20:53 <MTughan> Plus another 300 from Sudoku, and 600 that I already have today.
20:53 <Romulus> ie. one second per second?
20:53 <MTughan> Doug: Really, you expect me to parse an image? :P
20:53 <wdsmia> nope
20:54 <wdsmia> :P
20:54 <MTughan> That's good. I wasn't planning on doing it.
20:56 <xcamel> it would be nice to get a stats sucker working
20:56 <xcamel> but... off with me for now...
20:56 <xcamel> laterz, and have a nice Easter..
20:56 <wdsmia> cya jay
20:57 <MTughan> Bye.
20:57 <MTughan> I'll see what I can do when I have the time, K?
20:57 <MTughan> Anyway... I saw BOINC 6.1.10 is available for download on Mac OS X. Is it almost ready for primetime then?
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21:49 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015 i just bought that at a local shop for 95 bones
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21:56 <MTughan> That's no fun... You should get a 1000W power supply! :P
21:57 <MTughan> Imagine your computer taking a kilowatt. xD
22:00 <Soul_keeper> i was tempted to get the 850 .... but they wanted like 250 bones for it, and it didn't even have modular cables
22:03 <Soul_keeper> i guess this means it's reboot time ...
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