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00:07 <PovIpod> and now some strong hail too!
00:08 <PovIpod> (strong compared to what we're used to)
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00:46 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11225 lol
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03:35 * Tank_Master is listening to: Africanism Allstars - Hard (Murk Remix)
03:36 * Tank_Master is listening to: Talla 2XLC - Innocence (DJ Precision, M.I.D.O.R. And Six4Eight`s Somatic Sense Remix)
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05:15 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
05:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 43.5°F / 6.4°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.63in / 1003.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds around 5 mph...becoming south 10 to 15 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms. (1 more message)
05:15 <CoderForLife> &more
05:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Lows in the upper 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming north 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Friday - Showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. Northeast winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.;
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06:10 <CoderForLife> here's comes the rain again
06:10 <CoderForLife> here*
06:10 <Romulus> ok so physical name will be nice if that pid file isn't there, it would exit out if it's not spam, is it?
06:10 <KathrynM> I sent out rain in your direction
06:10 <KathrynM> *our
06:11 <CoderForLife> did you send some guys to help hold up my hillside too?
06:11 <KathrynM> I can send an army of small korean children ;)
06:11 <KathrynM> and one naughty guniea pig
06:12 <CoderForLife> they could get rid of the trash in the woods behind my neighbors' house
06:12 <CoderForLife> I'm tired of looking at it
06:28 <hawmps_> &wx 12020
06:28 <Romulus> hawmps_: Temperature: 24.4°F / -4.2°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of rain this afternoon. Highs in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Rain. Snow after midnight. Snow accumulation up to an (1 more message)
06:28 <hawmps_> &more
06:28 <Romulus> hawmps_: inch. Lows in the lower 30s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Friday - A chance of snow in the morning. Cloudy with a chance of rain. Highs in the lower 40s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;
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07:07 <CoderForLife> morning
07:08 <hawmps> indeed it is.
07:15 <hawmps> &ping
07:15 <Romulus> pong
07:16 <hawmps> stupid time server went goofy..
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08:25 <KathrynM> rug rats wore me out
08:25 <KathrynM> I'm heading to bed
08:25 * KathrynM thinks she must be getting old -- going to bed at 9:30
08:25 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
08:29 <CoderForLife> rain rain go away
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08:31 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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08:43 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319
08:43 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 35.0°F / 1.7°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Rain and snow until late afternoon...then rain and snow likely late in the afternoon. Colder. Snow accumulation up to 1 inch. High in the upper 30s. Northeast wind around 15 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Tonight (1 more message)
08:43 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:43 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: - Cloudy. A slight chance of rain and snow in the evening... then a slight chance of snow after midnight. Low in the upper 20s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
08:45 <wdsmia_w> yuk
08:58 <CoderForLife> why do you want more snow?
08:59 <CoderForLife> I'd wrap that package up and send it right back
09:02 * wdsmia_w packs up the snow and crud and sends it to CoderForLife
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09:05 <hawmps> bbiab
09:05 <CoderForLife> k
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09:05 <CoderForLife> but I said "Return To SENDER"
09:06 <wdsmia_w> oop's... to late now
09:07 <CoderForLife> nice APOD
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09:29 * hawmps wonders if I should reset reisel..
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09:40 <sethy> morning noon all
09:40 <wdsmia_w> mornin sethy
09:40 <sethy> everyone's keeping up well?
09:42 <sethy> hey wdsmia_w: read the latest xkcd ??
09:42 <wdsmia_w> nope
09:43 <sethy> its lhc fun :P
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09:46 <CoderForLife> hey sethy
09:46 <sethy> hey CFL
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09:48 <hawmps> lhc work?
09:48 <CoderForLife> hmm?
09:51 <wdsmia_w> nope no LHC work this morning
09:51 * CoderForLife asks LHC for some work, and is told to wait 15 minutes
09:52 <hawmps> nutz..
09:53 <hawmps> reisel is getting to be a pain..
09:53 <hawmps> keeps preempting other work
09:58 <wdsmia_w> press #1 to reset, #2 to detach, #3 to Inore, #4 to delete all of Boinc and go back to beta testing video games...
10:02 <wdsmia_w> you pressed #4 ...were sorry DA has disabled this function please try again later
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10:17 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict
10:17 <CoderForLife> I think I figured out my C++ problem
10:17 <PovAddict> :)
10:17 <CoderForLife> self-inflicted, naturally
10:17 <sethy> missed the ; ?
10:17 <CoderForLife> never play around with loaded Code
10:19 <CoderForLife> when I first wrote this Code in 1997, I put a #define in that said "if the array index is 20, then treat this file as a Word document" - I removed array index 2, and I was trying to process a Word document as a spreadsheet
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10:20 <zombie67> pov?
10:20 <Romulus> It has been said that pov is usually not got for very long, zombie67
10:20 <PovAddict> I just came here
10:20 * CoderForLife hides PovAddict behind his Coding wizard's cloak
10:20 <zombie67> hi!
10:21 <zombie67> any news on the big project?
10:21 <Romulus> smooth on my linux, but I got my state tax refund - looks strange
10:21 <CoderForLife> shuddup Rommie
10:24 <sethy> sethy?
10:24 <Romulus> It has been said that sethy is never standards compliant, sethy
10:24 <sethy> as i thought...
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10:25 <zombie67> hi MT!
10:25 <sethy> 'lo MTughan
10:25 <CoderForLife> hi MTughan
10:25 <sethy> everyone jump on MTughan
10:25 <hawmps> 'lo Mike
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10:42 <CoderForLife> MTughan?
10:42 <Romulus> Rumor has it MTughan is getting GCC errors, so that is an indication that it uses GCC. Just have to tweak stuff now, CoderForLife
10:42 <PovAddict> ugh
10:42 <PovAddict> web-based photoshop
10:42 <PovAddict> the world is getting worse every day
10:43 <CoderForLife> WBP - that's an oxymoron, isn't it?
10:43 <hawmps> sounds like it to me..
10:47 <CoderForLife> free, huh? now we can get those bullets inserted into the Bosnia pics
10:53 <CoderForLife> Elton John benefit for Hillary may be illegal - I guess that might have an impact on the Chinese donations as well
11:08 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: yes, free for now
11:08 <PovAddict> "Adobe intends to offer more features to consumers who pay a yearly fee."
11:08 <PovAddict> yearly? a year is too long for the internets
11:09 <PovAddict> a year is what it takes for a social networking site to lose popularity and be called "that's so last year"
11:10 <CoderForLife> lol right-o
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11:11 <CoderForLife> lunchtime - bbl
11:16 <PovAddict> more web [cr]apps
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11:33 <CoderForLife> we've got a lot of work to do between now and November
11:43 <hawmps> got some lhc/windows work..
11:43 <hawmps> just a minute or so ago..
11:45 <CoderForLife> looking
11:45 <wdsmia_w> must have been re-sends
11:45 <hawmps> could be..
11:45 <Romulus> thought we were talking about using the package manager.
11:45 <CoderForLife> "no work from project"
11:46 <CoderForLife> and "don;t darken my doorway for 1:45:00"
11:47 <CoderForLife> "thanks for asking"
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12:06 <hawmps> cheap thrills - check out the NY Post main page..
12:06 <hawmps> man can I call it...
12:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: Index of /division/1
12:07 <Romulus> I'm not linking to zlib correctly yet
12:07 <PovAddict> then whyTF some people can't access it <.<
12:12 <DerMeister> Hm... I can
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12:15 <PovAddict> DerMeister: okay I'll reply back saying "works for me and others, problem is on your side" :)
12:15 <PovAddict> thx
12:20 <DerMeister> :)
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12:22 <Tank_Master> holllyy crap this is a big ABC WU
12:23 <Tank_Master> 5.5h into it and its only 20% done
12:23 <PovAddict> &google calc 5.5 hours / 20% * 100%
12:23 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((5.5 hours) / (20%)) * (100%) = 1.14583333 days
12:24 <Tank_Master> on a overclocked core2duo 6600
12:24 <DerMeister> This one would tage ages on my littel P3 here :D
12:24 <Tank_Master> to bad its only worth 1k points
12:24 <Tank_Master> LOL
12:57 <hawmps> IRCalisÂ© Will you be ready..when the network is?
13:00 <CoderForLife> Caution is advised when IRCalis© is coadministered with pop-up blockers. When such vasodilators are used in combination, an additive effect on blood pressure may be anticipated.
13:21 <hawmps> did you check out that "????" on the cover of the post... ??
13:21 <Romulus> I need to grep for to look at anything boinc related
13:52 <CoderForLife> Where, hawmps?
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14:28 <Romulus> well I'll go to Advanced -> Preferences
14:36 <CoderForLife> ack
14:37 <CoderForLife> unbelievable - how low can the gov go?
14:38 <CoderForLife> gonna run errands - bbl
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16:01 <FreeLarry58> &whatis piespy
16:01 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: "piespy" could be http://lledgerock.com/boinc_logs/boinc-current.png
16:07 <xcamel> 'lo
16:09 <xcamel> Hi Larry
16:23 <PovAddict> reading thru recent code changes in BOINC
16:23 <PovAddict> many resulting in sigh, curse, or desire to cry
16:24 <KathrynM> when does boinc not result in the desire to sigh, curse or cry?
16:24 * KathrynM goes back to bed
16:27 <DerMeister> Did DA explain why he changed these enums to macros some weeks ago? I remember someone asking why he did that, but I never saw any answer for this...
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16:28 <zombie67> more brats!
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16:40 <FreeLarry58> afternoon xcamel PovAddict KathrynM DerMeister zombie67 mweltin and all
16:40 * FreeLarry58 need to attach with PieSpyRom occasionallly
16:41 <yoyo[RKN]> hi FreeLarry58
16:41 <FreeLarry58> finally painting of garage floor done
16:41 <mweltin> hey FreeLarry58
16:41 <FreeLarry58> howdy yoyo[RKN]
16:42 * FreeLarry58 looks at poor paints and wonders when the blue jeans turned to battleship grey
16:42 <FreeLarry58> pants
16:50 <CoderForLife> back
16:50 <CoderForLife> hello FreeLarry58
16:51 <FreeLarry58> howdy CoderForLife
16:51 <CoderForLife> took two bicycles to Goodwill since Stephen bought himself a new one this week
16:53 <FreeLarry58> thats great - looks like i have to make another dump run here - had to move a lot os stuff around in garage while painting floor and found a lot of stuff the wife hid on me
16:53 <FreeLarry58> most deteriorated to much to reuse
16:56 <CoderForLife> we actually hosed off the garage floor this week
16:57 <CoderForLife> it looks great now
16:58 <FreeLarry58> at least 2 new coats of garage floor paint on mine as of today - looks better than when we bought the place
16:58 <FreeLarry58> first painting of bare concrete
16:59 <CoderForLife> I thought about doing that before we moved in, but other things needed to get done
17:00 <FreeLarry58> thats the way it always is
17:01 <FreeLarry58> getting geared up for th poem run tomorrow http://boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=poem&id=2485
17:01 <CoderForLife> even thought about painting the garage walls
17:01 <FreeLarry58> all on it by self expect the two partially working 3x+1
17:01 <CoderForLife> but then move-in day arrived
17:02 <FreeLarry58> lol well garage walls still needing painted here after 17 years
17:02 <CoderForLife> we closed on March 17th 2 years ago, and moved in on April 28th
17:02 * FreeLarry58 rminds self roof will need replace din few more years
17:03 * CoderForLife needs a new hillside
17:03 <FreeLarry58> arrg - warning alarm going off -- caffine levels tooo low
17:03 <FreeLarry58> bbl off to coffee stand for espresso
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17:17 <mweltin> I need soem validator help.
17:17 <mweltin> I'm getting a parse error on one result.
17:19 <wdsmia> &wx 50265
17:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 34.3°F / 1.3°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 11.4mph / 18.3km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Rain showers...sleet likely and a slight chance of snow early in the evening...then a slight chance of rain and snow late in the evening. Colder. Little or no snow and sleet accumulation. Low in the mid 20s. Northeast (1 more message)
17:19 <wdsmia> &more
17:19 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
17:20 <wdsmia> Its a mess out on the roads
17:24 <mweltin> so I dug a little into this odd file
17:24 <mweltin> someohow one of my result files were filled with nothing more than http header information?
17:24 <mweltin> whats up with that? Anyone ever see that kind of error?
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17:42 <FreeLarry58> no error codes at all mweltin?
17:43 <FreeLarry58> mostly when i saw lots of http header info it was someone trying to get into my system
17:43 <mweltin> from a result upload?
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17:44 <zombie67> over my head
17:44 <FreeLarry58> ahh no that was when i had filezilla runnint
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17:44 * FreeLarry58 snow over head zombie67 thats deep
17:44 <mweltin> no error codes, I htink because there was no xml taht it was the expat that was failing.
17:45 <mweltin> hence the parse error.
17:45 <FreeLarry58> if header info from my machine it normally was due to router/modem close to lockup or overheating it seemed
17:45 <FreeLarry58> and handshake wasn't occuring
17:47 <FreeLarry58> but only a guess
17:47 <mweltin> I dont' see the connection between that and result files.
17:47 <mweltin> what was really strange was the fact taht the xml_doc database field had the correct data in it.
17:48 <mweltin> so clearly the result was computed correctly.
17:49 <zombie67> any aco work soon?
17:49 <mweltin> very soon
17:49 <zombie67> wow. that validator burns through them fast!
17:49 <mweltin> working on the database for the experiments now.
17:50 <mweltin> got side tracked by the BF crap and a motivational slump for a few days.
17:50 <mweltin> I turned off the validator and assimilator too soon.
17:50 <mweltin> work generator is off for the BF
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17:53 <xcamel> back again
17:54 <Romulus> Title: Quantum Random Bit Generator Service (at random.irb.hr)
18:00 <CoderForLife> let me know when we get to quantum computing, where the problem get solved before we turn the computer on
18:00 <CoderForLife> laterzzz....
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18:14 <FreeLarry58> mweltin?? are you saying the header info is in a result file not an error log?
18:15 <mweltin> yes
18:15 <FreeLarry58> if so your machine probably had a read/write error when communicating to disk and wrong info was recorded
18:15 <mweltin> that was all that was in the result file in the upload dir, just the http header info.
18:15 <PovAddict> then the client had a strange screwup
18:15 <mweltin> yes
18:15 <FreeLarry58> thats what i think to PovAddict
18:16 <FreeLarry58> was the headerinfo related to project at all?
18:16 <FreeLarry58> ie reporting place? or just random header info?
18:16 <mweltin> yeah
18:17 <FreeLarry58> if reporting place probably related to client if random memory space mix up
18:17 <mweltin> post request to the upload cgi
18:18 <FreeLarry58> or interaction with other program on your machine at time
18:18 <FreeLarry58> i get that sometimes when running older dos base games that have been updated
18:19 <mweltin> LOL
18:19 <FreeLarry58> still a few machine level calls that exist that try to take control from os
18:19 <PovAddict> FreeLarry58: get DosBox for DOS games...
18:19 <FreeLarry58> end up crashing machine mostly
18:19 <mweltin> I guess anythign is possible.
18:20 <FreeLarry58> lol but its so fun watchine meteors flashing by at the speed of light ;)
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18:20 <Romulus> you need any more help.
18:20 * FreeLarry58 old 8 Mhz clock game on 3.2 Ghz machine
18:21 <FreeLarry58> or the 15 minute demo at start going by in 3 secs
18:22 <PovAddict> &google DosBox
18:22 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.25 seconds: DOSBox , a x86 emulator with DOS: <http://www.dosbox.com/>; DOSBox , a x86 emulator with DOS: <http://www.dosbox.com/download.php?main=1>; DOSBox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOSBox>; SourceForge.net: DOSBox DOS Emulator: <http://sourceforge.net/projects/dosbox>; DOSBox 0.72 software download - Mac OS X - VersionTracker: (2 more messages)
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18:28 <FreeLarry58> thanks PovAddict and Romulus looks interesting but too much work
18:38 <xcamel> re-re-hi
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18:45 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
18:45 <Romulus> that could be tough
18:45 <xcamel> Hi Mike
18:50 <Romulus> Title: /trunk/boinc/client/app_start.C - BOINC - Trac (at ln-s.net)
18:50 <PovAddict> buffer overflow waiting to happen?
18:51 <MTughan> Hold on a sec...
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18:52 <MTughan> How often is that run? Because that's only 4KB.
18:52 <MTughan> 8KB*
18:53 <PovAddict> what if I manage to make result->cmdline longer...
18:53 <MTughan> Although it is a rather large char array.
18:55 <MTughan> Oh, you know the iPhone SDK Apple released, right?
18:55 <PovAddict> what about it
18:55 <MTughan> First version, GUI's were defined in code.
18:55 <PovAddict> yeah, no interface builder
18:56 <MTughan> Latest build, includes Interface BUilder, just like for OS X.
18:56 <MTughan> Okay, typing over VNC is just too slow... I'm going upstairs.
18:56 <BadBarbarian> 'lo everyone
18:57 <xcamel> 'lo BB
18:57 <BadBarbarian> my quad just got happy ordered a 4 gig 667 kit for it
18:58 <BadBarbarian> $73.00 from newegg with free 3 day shipping
19:00 <MTughan> Damn it... Lost the screw that held my watch strap in.
19:01 <zombie67> magnet
19:01 <MTughan> I don't know where.
19:01 <MTughan> And if it's magnetic.
19:01 <zombie67> ah
19:01 <zombie67> jewler
19:01 <MTughan> Sounds like it.
19:01 <zombie67> jeweler
19:01 <zombie67> I never wear watchs
19:01 <zombie67> time is on my ophone
19:02 <zombie67> phone
19:02 <MTughan> watches*
19:02 <zombie67> man, can't type today
19:02 <MTughan> I don't always have a phone or have it on, and I find it easier to glance at a watch.
19:03 <MTughan> Wow... New iPhone SDK is 1.4GB.
19:04 <PovAddict> wow, why didn't they... oh wait it's compressed...
19:04 <MTughan> Bunzip compressed even.
19:04 <MTughan> 350KB/s down, about 50 minutes left for about a gig.
19:04 <PovAddict> a binary diff between compressed files doesn't gain much
19:05 <MTughan> Along with a DVD rip going on, using 150% of the CPU. I've suspended BOINC. :P
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19:05 <MTughan> 'lo e
19:06 <xcamel> Hi Ed
19:08 <efc> Hey
19:09 <zombie67> odd. boinc d/d page has a newer version of boinc than win.
19:09 <PovAddict> /dl/?
19:10 <PovAddict> wcg thing?
19:12 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
19:12 <zombie67> there is 6.x for only mac
19:12 <PovAddict> what's the odd thing? 6.1 on mac?
19:13 <PovAddict> yeah I wonder why they put it there
19:13 <zombie67> normally, mac is lagging
19:13 <PovAddict> I thought they were going to keep 6.x's hidden
19:13 <MTughan> Although maybe Mac is more stable, and they're encountering problems on Windows.
19:13 <MTughan> Why Linux wouldn't be up though...
19:13 <Romulus> KathrynM Hi, do you think
19:13 <PovAddict> or maybe Charlie did the last changes to 6.x and built Mac
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19:21 <xcamel> putting 6 out to the public isn't the best idea I've heard all day..
19:28 <PovAddict> I have a LHC WU
19:28 <zombie67> reissue
19:28 <PovAddict> looks like I got it a few minutes ago
19:28 <PovAddict> zombie67: I'm damn lucky then!
19:29 * zombie67 is upgrading his machines to 5.10.45
19:30 <MTughan> Oh, I see that they've redone the Attach Project dialog a bit.
19:30 <zombie67> have to be careful. Cels tasks run 12-24 hours, and no checkpoint
19:30 <PovAddict> MTughan: in 6.x? screenshot?
19:30 <MTughan> Getting one... And yeah, 6.1.10.
19:30 <PovAddict> omg
19:31 <PovAddict> my povray wrapper
19:31 <PovAddict> I had forgotten how crappy the build system was
19:31 <zombie67> yes?
19:31 <Romulus> Rumor has it yes is enable, zombie67
19:31 <PovAddict> I guess I'll keep telling to self...
19:31 <PovAddict> "self, one day you have to clean this up"
19:31 <MTughan> Hold on a sec...
19:31 <zombie67> screw it. just issue the work. ;)
19:31 <MTughan> Okay, curl doesn't want to upload my image...
19:32 <zombie67> 15k at lattice yesteday
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19:34 <MTughan> Damn it, what a time for my FTP server to stop working...
19:34 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - Upload an Image (at imagebin.ca)
19:34 <MTughan> Already there.
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19:35 <Romulus> Title: boinc-projects.png (at imagebin.ca)
19:35 <MTughan> It's a little improved. Looks better though.
19:35 <PovAddict> was about time they fixed that UI
19:36 <MTughan> Other than that, I haven't noticed any differences b/w 6.1.10 and 5.10.45.
19:36 <PovAddict> ok, povray compiled
19:37 <KathrynM> mornin' all
19:37 <MTughan> I was wondering how I could turn in 21 completed MM tasks and only have 10 credit...
19:37 <KathrynM> TGIF
19:37 <MTughan> Only two are validated.
19:37 <MTughan> KathrynM: I wish... :(
19:38 <nickuwo> Kathryn - where are you, Hawaii?
19:38 <PovAddict> korea
19:38 <KathrynM> S. Korea
19:39 <nickuwo> cool
19:39 <KathrynM> :)
19:39 <PovAddict> ARGH
19:39 <MTughan> nickuwo: Hawaii's behind America too.
19:39 <PovAddict> when I run the just-compiled POV-Ray
19:39 <Romulus> lemme see if you don't.
19:39 <PovAddict> it lowers its priority
19:39 <PovAddict> like any BOINC app
19:40 <PovAddict> however, then it starts sharing CPU with my actual BOINC WUs
19:40 <PovAddict> and taking longer
19:40 <MTughan> What would you expect?
19:41 <PovAddict> not changing priority if running in standalone mode
19:41 <MTughan> Ah...
19:41 <PovAddict> wtf 3 minutes already
19:41 <zombie67> brb
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19:42 <PovAddict> it's clear I used no optimizations at all
19:42 <PovAddict> k finished
19:42 <PovAddict> and result is: wrong
19:42 <MTughan> iPhone SDK almost downloaded...
19:42 <MTughan> ~6m
19:43 * PovAddict compiles POV-Ray without his wrapper
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19:49 <MTughan> Whoa... The iPhone SDK disk image contains a package for GCC 4.2.
19:49 <xcamel> friggin cute:
19:49 <xcamel> ****WINTER STORM WARNINGS FOR HEAVY WET SNOW HAVE BEEN POSTED FROM MIDNIGHT TO 6PM FRIDAY FOR THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE CATSKILLS AND SOUTHERN GREEN MOUNTAINS....A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FOR ALL THE HILL TOWNS AROUND THE CAPITAL REGION******
19:50 <MTughan> Oh yeah... A cute chemical compound: Copper telluride.
19:50 <MTughan> CuTe
19:50 <MTughan> xD
19:50 <PovAddict> <.<
19:51 <MTughan> I know, it's horrid...
19:51 <PovAddict> what about Fluorine, Uranium, Carbon and Potassium
19:51 <MTughan> lol...
19:52 <Romulus> Title: Image:Moleculesdoingit.gif - Uncyclopedia, the content-free encyclopedia (at ln-s.net)
19:53 <xcamel> UF6 is bad enough
19:55 <efc> Headed home, bbl
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19:55 <xcamel> anyway.. the weather was just going to be "a dusting"
19:57 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023
19:58 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 60°F / 15.6°C | Humidity: 14% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 27 on the North Rim to around 48 along the Colorado River. West winds 15 to 20 mph in the evening becoming light.; Friday - Partly cloudy. Highs around 56 on the North Rim to around 81 along the Colorado River. Light (1 more message)
19:58 <BadBarbarian> &more
19:58 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: winds becoming southwest around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows around 30 on the North Rim to around 44 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph in the evening becoming light.;
19:59 <zombie67> does brats checkpoint
19:59 <KathrynM> dunno
19:59 <KathrynM> wanna send some of that work my way?
19:59 <zombie67> I have been real lucky lately!
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20:11 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123
20:11 <Tank_Master> &more
20:11 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
20:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 43.7°F / 6.5°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers in the evening with small hail possible...then snow and rain likely after midnight. Snow level 1000 feet. Local light snow accumulations. Lows 30 to 35. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph shifting (2 more messages)
20:12 <Tank_Master> &more
20:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: to the southeast 10 to 20 mph after midnight.; Friday - Snow and rain in the morning...then rain and snow showers in the afternoon. Snow level 500 feet or less. Local light snow accumulations. Highs around 45. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph shifting to the west 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Rain or snow showers. Snow level around 500 feet. Local light snow accumulations. Lows 30 to (1 more message)
20:12 <Tank_Master> &more
20:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 35. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph.; Special Weather Statement for Washington County in effect until 5:00 AM PDT on March 28, 2008;
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20:18 <KathrynM> laterz
20:18 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
20:20 * Tank_Master is listening to: Coast 2 Coast - Home Original Mix
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20:40 <xcamel> &wx 12074
20:40 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 38.6°F / 3.7°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Rain. Snow with a chance of sleet after midnight. Snow and sleet accumulation around an inch. Lows in the lower 30s. Southwest winds around 5 mph...becoming east after midnight. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Friday - (1 more message)
20:40 <xcamel> &more
20:40 <Romulus> xcamel: Snow with a chance of sleet in the morning...then snow in the afternoon. Total accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Near steady temperature in the mid 30s. Northeast winds around 5 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. A chance of flurries. Cooler with lows in the lower 20s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.;
20:45 <zombie67> pov: you weren't lucky. 11000 ready to send
20:46 <xcamel> 11000 ehat?
20:46 <xcamel> er what, even?
20:48 <zombie67> LHC work
20:49 <PovAddict> LONG post
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21:32 <PovAddict> "Count WUs again. Forget credits. Forget parity. People can say "I've done 10 CPDN WUs" and everyone will known that's a big accomplishment. Someone says "I've done 10 Milkyway WUs" and you get a "So what did you do the next hour?" You don't have to compare the two accomnplishments in a numerical format."
21:32 <PovAddict> YES
21:32 <PovAddict> some people with their mind right
21:33 <mweltin> LOL
21:34 <mweltin> quick question aobut the create_work function
21:34 <mweltin> I have a filename ohhhh that must be it.
21:34 <mweltin> brb
21:41 <PovAddict> "all threads degenerate towards a reference to Adolph Hitler, or BOINC Credit"
21:41 <mweltin> LOL
21:41 <mweltin> RTFLOL
21:41 <mweltin> where did you get that?
21:41 <PovAddict> from this damn huge post http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2554
21:42 <mweltin> classic boinc humor
21:42 <PovAddict> believe me, not much funny there
21:42 <PovAddict> read it if you have the time
21:42 <mweltin> I dont' right now
21:43 <mweltin> work gen troubles.
21:43 <mweltin> never had to add a file create_work() before.
21:43 <mweltin> not running smooth yet, but I htink I got it.
21:43 <mweltin> I wasn't passing the path to the file as well.
21:44 <mweltin> I assume create_work calls the dir_heir_path
21:45 <PovAddict> "The project guy that professes a lack of time yet refuses offers of help because there is that slight chance that things won't be done exactly as he would have done them"
21:45 <PovAddict> mweltin: yes it does
21:46 <PovAddict> did you see this? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/WorkGeneration#cpp-one
21:46 <mweltin> seems out of context.
21:46 <mweltin> yeah
21:53 <mweltin> its not too clear, cannot stat `/home/boinc/projects/tsp/download/../DMICInstances/brd14051.tsp'
21:53 <mweltin> I'm going to try an absolute path next.
21:53 <PovAddict> err wait
21:53 <PovAddict> no
21:53 <PovAddict> create_work calls the dir_heir_path to know where the file is
21:53 <PovAddict> you should have already copied it into the download directory
21:54 <mweltin> but download has tons of those HEX dirs in it
21:54 <PovAddict> cp ../DMICInstances/brd14051.tsp `dir_heir_path brd14051.tsp`; and then pass ONLY 'brd14051.tsp' to create_work, no path, no slashes
21:54 <PovAddict> dir_heir_path will know what hex dir to copy it to
21:55 <mweltin> ok
21:55 <mweltin> thanks, yeah the work gen wiki page was not clear on that, although I must admit I only skimmed it for examples. I haven't read it in a while. It's probably very clear.
21:57 <mweltin> can I move the whole DMICInstantces dir into download, and pass infiles DIMCInstances/brb14051.tsp ?
21:58 <PovAddict> no
21:58 <PovAddict> filenames must be unique, and can't have folders too
21:58 <mweltin> ok
21:59 <PovAddict> even on the client, it will try to save it to a file called DIMCInstances/brb14051.tsp
21:59 <PovAddict> and fail
22:02 <mweltin> got it, where is the workunit (class/structure) defined?
22:03 <PovAddict> somewhere
22:03 <PovAddict> server_types.h maybe
22:03 <mweltin> ahaha
22:03 <PovAddict> okay, as if that thread wasn't long enough
22:03 <PovAddict> trying to read it while parents whine I should go to sleep
22:03 <PovAddict> it's barely 11pm
22:04 <mweltin> boinc_db.h
22:04 <mweltin> take care pov
22:04 <mweltin> see you later
22:04 <mweltin> thanks again for the tip
22:04 <PovAddict> who said I was going
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22:05 <nickuwo> how old are you pov?
22:05 <PovAddict> 17y 3m
22:05 <mweltin> he is 12
22:05 * PovAddict slaps mweltin around a bit with a large trout
22:05 <mweltin> don't let him kid you
22:05 <mweltin> LOL
22:06 <nickuwo> i c... a BOINC prodigy
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22:16 <nickuwo> So I was trying to optimize my mySQL today, and I ended up deleting my database :)
22:16 <mweltin> ouch
22:16 <mweltin> backups?
22:16 <zombie67> pov, what's your time to completion now?
22:16 <nickuwo> no, but I know where the WUs left off, so it's all good
22:17 <nickuwo> MySQL is a finicky bitch
22:17 <PovAddict> 5h 8m
22:17 <PovAddict> running a LHC on the other core
22:17 <zombie67> MUCH better!
22:17 <zombie67> almost half
22:17 <PovAddict> elapsed 1h 13m and 35% done
22:18 <zombie67> this is why I keep attached to every project with a trickle resource
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22:20 <mweltin> MTughan, hey
22:20 <zombie67> soon POV will be a chatty kathy
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22:28 <PovAddict> ...
22:28 <PovAddict> what do you mean with that
22:28 <Romulus> mweltin! You are really helping out a lot
22:28 <Romulus> Title: chatty - definition of chatty by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia. (at www.thefreedictionary.com)
22:28 <PovAddict> "talking a lot"?
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22:29 <zombie67> you are currently mute, you will soon have a voice
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22:29 <zombie67> you have a lot to say, but can't at this time
22:29 <PovAddict> heh
22:29 <mweltin> thanks Romulus I'll take the compliement dispite the fact I can't stand you.
22:29 <MTughan> Aren't we all chatty then?
22:31 <zombie67> no, we can say what we want right now. pov acn't
22:31 <PovAddict> SETI forum needs a minimum RAC to post
22:31 <PovAddict> and I haven't crunched in months
22:32 <zombie67> same with einstein, btw
22:32 <PovAddict> I know
22:33 <zombie67> good to keep a trickle
22:34 <PovAddict> I watch an http working group mailing list too
22:34 <PovAddict> it's amazing how much can go wrong in a specification
22:34 <PovAddict> all HTTP features carefully documented...
22:35 <PovAddict> then somebody uses two features together in an unexpected way... and surprise, the result isn't clearly defined by the spec, and every server is doing it differently :\
22:38 <zombie67> I see that stuf regularly
22:38 <PovAddict> BOINC doesn't have such problems
22:38 <PovAddict> there is no spec :)
22:39 <zombie67> ATCA (PICMG 3.x) is a standard....yet...
22:39 <mweltin> gotta run
22:39 <mweltin> later guys
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22:41 <PovAddict> Paul's avatar is great too
22:43 <Tank_Master> what does that say?
22:43 <PovAddict> the graph on the back?
22:43 <PovAddict> BOINC Users
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22:44 <Tank_Master> Boloc U*srs is what I can make out
22:45 <Tank_Master> second word doesnt apprear to be users
22:45 <Tank_Master> bah, why do I care?
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22:46 <zombie67> brb
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23:07 <PovAddict> zombie67: Paul has just pwned Eric
23:15 <PovAddict> sheesh
23:15 <PovAddict> I got another LHC WU and SETI got preempted
23:15 <zombie67> only about 20% into the thread so far,
23:19 <zombie67> truth: SETI crunches and does nothing with the results. So then why crunch?
23:20 <PovAddict> when an alpha project has problems with their app, and they already have enough error reports, it should immediately stop generating work
23:20 <PovAddict> so it doesn't waste people's CPU time while fixing the bug
23:20 <zombie67> the point i tried to make on AI
23:20 <PovAddict> when any project doesn't have enough time to process the results, I think they should do the same
23:20 <zombie67> +!
23:20 <zombie67> +1
23:21 <PovAddict> instead of wasting their own time trying to keep the users feeded
23:21 <PovAddict> I mean, why don't they have time to process the results?
23:21 <PovAddict> beacuse they are busy maintaining the system so it keeps sending work
23:21 <zombie67> Imagine if SETI were turned off
23:21 <zombie67> many would quit
23:21 <zombie67> BUT
23:21 <zombie67> many would move to projects DOING SOMETHING
23:22 <PovAddict> think LHC
23:22 <PovAddict> scientists don't send work WHY
23:22 <PovAddict> because they are analyzing previous runs
23:22 <PovAddict> and doing actual work on the collider to know what else needs to be simulated
23:22 <zombie67> I try not to think about LHC
23:23 <zombie67> it seems their management wont allow upgrade to the server, even though they have been "hacked"
23:23 <PovAddict> Rytis told me there was some SQL injection that could let setting total_credit to anything :)
23:23 <PovAddict> but he didn't search for details
23:23 <zombie67> yet they still rely on it as a scientific tool!
23:23 <PovAddict> it was found&fixed so many years ago
23:24 <PovAddict> ...
23:24 <zombie67> National Geographic has a great multi-page article
23:25 <wdsmia> on the law suit?
23:25 <PovAddict> what is it with USA and lawsuits?
23:25 <zombie67> the lawyers figured out they can sue themselves rich
23:26 <PovAddict> hehe
23:26 <PovAddict> they should put that Wagner guy inside the collider :)
23:26 <zombie67> and by sharing a fraction of the profits, they get the people to REQUIRE law suits!
23:26 <MTughan> How can a US lawsuit affect a European corporation?
23:26 <zombie67> AND the law MAKERS are almost all LAWYERS
23:27 <zombie67> MT: If they want to sell anything in the US, they must comply
23:27 <zombie67> same in the other direction too
23:27 <zombie67> that is why microsoft is the EU's bitch
23:28 <MTughan> CERN doesn't sell anything in the US as I know.
23:28 <PovAddict> "Could we, just for a moment, please stop being afraid of every little thing we don't fully understand? This is science, not science fiction. Let's learn what there is before we hide under our beds from it."
23:28 <zombie67> from?
23:29 <PovAddict> comments on wdsmia's link
23:29 <zombie67> MT, not following your point...
23:31 <zombie67> brb
23:31 <PovAddict> sheesh
23:31 <PovAddict> loaded the thread on my iPod
23:31 <PovAddict> amazing it actually loaded but
23:31 <PovAddict> I take ages to scroll :)
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