IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-03-28

00:00 <MTughan> &cad

00:00 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

00:00 <MTughan> &xkcd

00:00 <Romulus> http://www.xkcd.com/

00:06 <PovAddict> zombie67: 40 mins left for one SETI!

00:07 <zombie67> sweet

00:07 <zombie67> Therefore I see the issue of credit as being largely political for a small group and not really important to the whole overall.

00:07 <zombie67> Perhaps, but that "small group" just happens to include David Anderson.

00:07 <zombie67> hah!

00:07 <zombie67> ha;f way now

00:07 <PovAddict> I think I'll go to sleep

00:07 <MTughan> Night.

00:07 <PovAddict> btw, it's amazing how dirty the internet is

00:08 <PovAddict> there's already loads of iPhone-optimized porn websites

00:08 <MTughan> ...

00:08 <zombie67> in the morning, you will be able to post...assuming your wingmen help out

00:08 <Romulus> is back (gone 01:21:40)

00:08 <PovAddict> http://rafb.net/p/A47L9z44.html

00:08 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at rafb.net)

00:09 <MTughan> You posted it as C++.

00:09 <zombie67> hehe

00:09 <zombie67> spank that!

00:12 <zombie67> I have come to the opinion that credits are meaningful only within a project.

00:13 <zombie67> the only way to compare projects is something like Formula BOINC

00:13 <PovAddict> see posts 730494 and 730689 for agreement with that

00:13 <PovAddict> yes I actually took note of interesting post IDs to reply later :)

00:13 <zombie67> and that opens up cross project comparison to projects outside BOINC

00:14 <zombie67> well, this my opinion is not due to that thread

00:14 <PovAddict> I know

00:15 <zombie67> ever since discovering FB, and wrapping my head around it a few months ago, that is what got me there

00:15 <PovAddict> sleep ->

00:16 <zombie67> In addition to that, I feel the FB method is beneficial to DC

00:16 <zombie67> it pushes resources to smaller projects

00:16 <zombie67> gn

00:16 <zombie67> sleep well

00:31 <zombie67> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46014&nowrap=true#730689

00:31 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1jx1> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

00:56 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11269

00:56 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1jxH> (at www.dailytech.com)

00:56 <Romulus> not like there is one, only if it succesfully upladed task

00:56 <zombie67> hah!

00:57 <zombie67> I have already been told to be prepared!  China is shutting down factories in a 90 mile radius.  So if my factories have any components sourced there, stock up now!

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01:05 <efc> Make the pollution appear all nice and clean for the big hypocrit convention?

01:05 <zombie67> yep

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01:05 <zombie67> oh yeah, and no news/youtube/google of the crap going on in tibet

01:06 <Wabbit67> no surprise there

01:06 <Wabbit67> google is bowing to its new master now

01:07 <zombie67> the money is always the master, regardless of country

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01:14 <zombie67> pov:  http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46014&nowrap=true#731267

01:14 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1jxX> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

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01:53 <Tank_Master> http://www.dailytech.com/NASA+Study+15+Of+Americas+Air+Pollution+Is+From+Asia/article11131.htm

01:53 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1jy5> (at www.dailytech.com)

01:53 <zombie67> hehe

01:55 <zombie67> kinda "well, duh!" article

01:55 <Soul_keeper> nice

01:55 <Tank_Master> yeah

01:55 <Tank_Master> :)

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01:55 <zombie67> just look at any weather forecast on the west coast

01:56 <zombie67> and weather travels (in general) west to east.

01:56 <Tank_Master> and yet we get blamed for polition causeing global warming...

01:57 <Tank_Master> yet china is "a poor developing nation" so same rules dont apply

01:58 * efc thinks the Olympics is a bunch of sanctimonius $(#$#

01:58 <zombie67> it's all about pollution per dollar earned.  we are just too damn "rich".

01:58 <zombie67> we should "know better"

01:58 <zombie67> Feel the guit!

01:59 <zombie67> guilt

02:00 <zombie67> it is okay for 3rd world countries to pollute far worse, per head, as they are poor.

02:01 <zombie67> feel the burn!

02:01 <Tank_Master> lol

02:02 * FreeLarry58 eyeballs old flame thrower and adjust sighting mechanism -- oooo zombie67

02:02 * FreeLarry58 do you want your wish

02:02 <FreeLarry58> ;0

02:03 <FreeLarry58> ouch forgot the tip gets hot

02:03 <Tank_Master> those trees are blocking my view of the olimpics

02:03 <Tank_Master> ill burn them down

02:03 * efc played with a forestry flamethrower, fun!

02:03 <FreeLarry58> and drive the price of lumber for stands up

02:03 <zombie67> the fatality rate for flame thrower users was HIGH.  Many were not due to enemy fire...

02:03 <efc> It squirts 50/50 gas/diesel

02:03 <FreeLarry58> lol true

02:04 <Romulus> yeah yeah rommie, I know why it uses faster algorithms than the average

02:04 <Tank_Master> you shoot the tank, not the numnut

02:04 <zombie67> wanna burn?  Napalm is awesome stuff

02:04 <efc> "Sands of Iwo Jima" had some of that

02:04 <Tank_Master> hehehe

02:04 <FreeLarry58> just mix a little sugar and styrofoam in

02:04 <efc> They march flamethrower dudes one at a time up to machine gun nests

02:04 <zombie67> try to make it STOP burning...

02:05 <efc> With predictable results. Until John Wayne did it, they didn't shoot him for some reason.

02:05 <zombie67> everyone says, "save the trees!".

02:05 <zombie67> trees are just a tall lawn

02:05 <zombie67> they grow back

02:05 <Tank_Master> I say: "uuoo! Money!

02:05 <zombie67> we need the clippings

02:05 <FreeLarry58> just a lot slower

02:06 <zombie67> depends on the type of tree

02:06 <FreeLarry58> wood holds the carbon and other pollution well till burned or allowed to decompose

02:06 <zombie67> new forrests are just tall lawn.

02:07 <zombie67> so does watter

02:07 <FreeLarry58> they need thinning not clearcut is all

02:07 <efc> &math convert 114 mm to inches

02:07 <Romulus> efc: 4.48818897638

02:07 <zombie67> trees can be crops

02:07 <zombie67> tsll corn

02:07 <zombie67> tall

02:08 <FreeLarry58> around here they finding that out too well - lots of increase in oxygen depletion in areas during year and massive fish die off

02:08 <Tank_Master> but they can burn if its started by lightning, cus thats natural

02:08 * FreeLarry58 bad memories about tall corn - two summers of detasseling work when young

02:08 <zombie67> nothing "crop rotation" hasn't already told

02:09 <efc> Basically if you stick 10 billion people on the planet, something has to give

02:09 <Tank_Master> Ill never budge

02:09 <FreeLarry58> yeah one crop takes out and a different one puts back in

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02:10 <FreeLarry58> &nn all

02:10 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

02:10 <Tank_Master> gn fl

02:10 <zombie67> co2 is held back in many things.

02:10 <zombie67> fl?

02:10 <zombie67> ah

02:10 <Tank_Master> der ;)

02:11 <zombie67> TM, I put it "out there"

02:11 <Tank_Master> ?

02:11 <zombie67> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46014&nowrap=true#731267

02:11 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1jxX> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

02:14 <zombie67> 263 posts in 7 days.  thread locked/hidden/iunlocked/unidden flaming and ugly

02:14 <zombie67> like my spelling

02:14 <zombie67> ;)

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03:03 * Tank_Master is listening to: Hurly And Torm - Sunstorm (Mythos N Cosmo Mix)

03:06 * Tank_Master is listening to: Mark Norman - Niagara (Extended Version)

03:16 * Tank_Master is listening to: Pyschotrance 2000 By D - FUSE

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04:28 <Romulus> you are diffident Rookie_69

04:28 <Tank_Master> ROFL!

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06:13 <CoderForLife> morning any and all

06:14 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

06:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.6F / 4.8C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 2.9mph / 4.7km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Rain showers with a chance of thunderstorms early. Highs in the upper 40s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the upper 20s. Northeast (1 more message)

06:14 <CoderForLife> &more

06:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.;

06:16 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

06:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 26.2F / -3.2C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Breezy. High in the mid 40s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to (1 more message)

06:16 <wdsmia> &more

06:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon.;

06:18 <CoderForLife> morning Doug

06:19 <wdsmia> mornin Don

06:19 <CoderForLife> breakfast - bbiab

06:32 * KathrynM is back (gone 10:13:55)

06:33 <hawmps> 'lo

06:35 <KathrynM> wanna read something amusing?

06:35 <KathrynM> http://pastebin.ca/960652

06:35 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 960652 (at pastebin.ca)

06:35 <hawmps> depends..

06:35 <KathrynM> written by a 3rd grader

06:37 <desti> 0_o

06:37 <KathrynM> lol

06:37 <KathrynM> I wish I had saved the one he wrote on dung

06:37 <CoderForLife> Dung Is Our Friend?

06:37 <KathrynM> something like that

06:38 <CoderForLife> a good perspective - should help them get through life

06:38 <KathrynM> It's a wonder I have any sanity left

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06:47 <hawmps> 2" of very very slippery snow on the roads..

06:48 <hawmps> 32.5F

06:51 <CoderForLife> back

06:52 <CoderForLife> ugh

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07:11 <hawmps> 'ugh' is an understatement

07:11 * KathrynM is glad spring has arrived in S. Korea

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07:18 * CoderForLife watches the tree behind his house fall down the hill in very slo-mo

07:24 * KathrynM works on her todo list for the weekend

07:50 * CoderForLife works on his scanner code - Korean spreadsheets seem to be the most difficult

07:56 <KathrynM> the folks at work finally got sick on the one computer and sent it in to be wiped and have xp reinstalled.  I guess all print jobs are routed through that and it was so bad that trying to print hung that computer plus the computer that was sending the job.  HOpefully they'll manage to not screw up the computer this time.

07:56 <KathrynM> and hopefully this time they'll keep the av up to date

08:13 <CoderForLife> you hope a lot

08:14 <KathrynM> yeah.  I know.  Not everyone is as OCD about computers as I am :)

08:19 <CoderForLife> over-clocked?

08:19 <KathrynM> lol

08:22 * KathrynM starts the edubuntu download

08:23 <KathrynM> I'm gonna zap my Ubuntu partition and stick Edubuntu on it so I can let my kids use it.

08:23 <KathrynM> I just hope I don't completely trash the whole system :)

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08:31 <CoderForLife> you hope a lot

08:33 <KathrynM> yeah, well

08:36 <KathrynM> I try to stay optomistic, but when dealing with grub, it's hard :/

08:38 <CoderForLife> optimistic?  optomistic is when you only *look* positive =)

08:40 <KathrynM> I never said I could spell :-p

08:40 <KathrynM> I'm the person who regularly stumped Word's spell check.

08:41 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:41 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 25.4F / -3.7C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. High in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 20s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Breezy. High in the mid 40s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph increasing (1 more message)

08:41 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:41 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: to 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon.;

08:58 <hawmps> &wx 12020

08:58 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 31.6F / -0.2C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Snow. Total accumulation of 3 to 6 inches. Highs in the upper 30s. North winds around 10 mph. Chance of snow near 100 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 20s. North (1 more message)

08:58 <hawmps> &more

08:58 <Romulus> hawmps: winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Cold with highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Winter Weather Advisory for Saratoga County in effect until 6:00 PM EDT on March 28, 2008;

08:58 <Romulus> this is good news

08:59 <KathrynM> sorry rommie, I gotta disagree

08:59 <KathrynM> snow is never good news

08:59 <hawmps> 3" of potato mash snow so far...

08:59 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

08:59 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM KST; Partly Cloudy. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Rain. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Overcast. Low:39 F. / 4 C.;

09:00 <PovAddict> KathrynM: "All threads degenerate towards a reference to Adolph Hitler, or BOINC Credit" -- Paul D. Buck

09:00 <KathrynM> I saw

09:00 <KathrynM> darn, I bet my pastebin link exprired

09:01 <KathrynM> I had a student (3rd grade) write about his "Winky"

09:01 <PovAddict> no, didn't

09:01 <PovAddict> pastebin.ca doesn't expire posts by default

09:01 <PovAddict> and

09:01 <PovAddict> o_O

09:01 <KathrynM> I set it to expire tho

09:01 <KathrynM> It's amazing I have any sanity left

09:03 <KathrynM> ok, dumb question...

09:03 <KathrynM> I have the edubuntu iso downloaded

09:03 <KathrynM> but I don't have any blank CDs.  Can I burn it to a DVD?

09:04 <PovAddict> CD iso on a DVD?

09:04 <KathrynM> ok, maybe not then ;)

09:04 <KathrynM> I'll pick up a pack of cds tomorrow

09:04 <PovAddict> I think you can, but I'm not too sure

09:05 <PovAddict> I wanted to ask somebody else before saying yes, to save you a wasted DVD

09:05 <PovAddict> but he hasn't tried it before either :)

09:05 <desti> you can "burn" it on an usb stick too

09:06 <PovAddict> really?

09:06 <KathrynM> yeah, but I don't know if I can book from a USB stick

09:07 <KathrynM> *boot

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09:23 * CoderForLife completes another item on the scanner todo list

09:23 <CoderForLife> hmm - I thought I was here

09:24 <KathrynM> your're a figament of your imagination

09:25 <hawmps> no matter where you go... there you are.

09:34 <KathrynM> http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/259280971/article.pl

09:35 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1k4K> (at rss.slashdot.org)

09:41 <CoderForLife> maybe it's one of them there time paradoxes

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10:04 <PovAddict> KathrynM: yes, you can burn a CD iso on a DVD, and it's even faster

10:04 <KathrynM> nice :)

10:05 <PovAddict> (a DVD's 1x is 9 times more than a CD's 1x)

10:07 <CoderForLife> doing a bit of LHC this morning

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10:46 <CoderForLife> going to have a pizza lunch with some folks from w@#% - bbl

11:06 <PovAddict> KathrynM: did I show you this? http://www.zbxt.net/~aero/syntax.jpg

11:06 <Romulus> here it is the project with a cpu version would be yum...

11:10 <KathrynM> lol

11:10 <KathrynM> that's good

11:10 * FreeLarry58 wonders if thats PovAddict new monitor?

11:11 <PovAddict> lol not mine

11:11 <PovAddict> that's a projector btw

11:11 <FreeLarry58> howdy PovAddict KathrynM CoderForLife and all

11:11 <FreeLarry58> i noticed ;)

11:11 <KathrynM> howdy FreeLarry58

11:11 * KathrynM wanders to bed

11:11 <FreeLarry58> projection monitor

11:11 <PovAddict> and it's a gaming machine... that had some BIOS problem, and on that picture running MS-DOS :D

11:11 <KathrynM> night all

11:11 <FreeLarry58> nn KathrynM

11:11 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

11:12 <FreeLarry58> all it shows is someone playing with the dos prompt command to me

11:12 <PovAddict> yeah

11:13 * FreeLarry58 cripes where did that memory come from

11:13 * FreeLarry58 looks at new layer of dust 6 inch deep around ankles

11:15 <FreeLarry58> oh by the way PovAddict that cd i had on the nix machine didn't need to be in machine to run the games

11:15 <FreeLarry58> finally figured out i had to run in screen mode and reset resolution top read the text of game

11:18 <eyen> yay, no longer using that horrid GUI for boinc

11:18 <FreeLarry58> don't knowif you want to make iso and dl or not but in machine again if you do

11:19 <PovAddict> eyen: what horrid GUI?

11:19 <eyen> <3 boinc_cmd

11:19 <FreeLarry58> which gui eyen

11:19 <eyen> the boinc manager

11:19 <PovAddict> there is no good UI for BOINC

11:20 <FreeLarry58> well bye for now - time for contiuation of nap

11:21 <eyen> and i got einstein working for 64bit linux.. although i'm not exactly sure how

11:22 <PovAddict> :D

11:22 <eyen> i would have noticed what made it work if i had boinc set up properly to begin with

11:23 <eyen> but i assumed it was the 64bit OS causing the problem :x

11:44 <Tank_Master> man

11:45 <Tank_Master> almost done with a 29h ABC WU

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13:19 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86046

13:20 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 60.1F / 15.6C | Humidity: 25% | Pressure: 23.54in / 797.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8.3mph / 13.4km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. Highs 56 to 64. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 33 to 39. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the evening becoming light.; (1 more message)

13:20 <BadBarbarian> &more

13:20 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Saturday - Partly cloudy. Highs 53 to 61. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the late morning and afternoon.;

13:20 <Romulus> As for BS stats, this seems to start boinc automatically ?

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13:29 <CoderForLife> back

13:29 <CoderForLife> hello FreeLarry58

13:30 <yoyo[RKN]> rehi

13:33 <CoderForLife> hello yoyo[RKN]

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13:37 <BadBarbarian> lo CFL

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13:52 * old is back - L.A.S.F. - Later all Simper Fi - 7w.2d.23h.34m.2s

13:52 <old> &weather 87321

13:52 <Romulus> old: Temperature: 55F / 12.8C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: in / hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s to lower 70s. Southeast winds 10 to 15 mph shifting to the south 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 20s to mid 30s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph in the evening.; Saturday - (1 more message)

13:53 <old> &more

13:53 <Romulus> old: Mostly sunny in the morning becoming partly cloudy. Breezy. Highs in the upper 50s to lower 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph increasing to 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 35 mph.;

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14:01 <old> Anybody to home ?

14:01 <Romulus> I click on a GPL-compatible license, or buys a commercial license from you lot.

14:05 <CoderForLife> hello old

14:06 <CoderForLife> hello BadBarbarian

14:06 <old> CFL Hi ,hows it ?

14:06 <CoderForLife> I was just thinking about you yesterday, old - how are you?

14:07 <CoderForLife> gee - it's been 7w.2d.23h.34m.2s since you were here last

14:07 <old> I'm hanging in there ,am down too one box and have been just hanging out doing nothing :(

14:07 <CoderForLife> how can you live with just one box?

14:07 <old> I can't

14:08 <CoderForLife> reasonable

14:08 <CoderForLife> you keeping busy doing nothing?

14:08 <old> am still working my dule core and the computer room is so croweded I can hardley move about

14:09 <CoderForLife> keep them boinc lights on... =)

14:09 <old> have made some headway on the Turtle (dule core AMD) but have just haven't been able to concentrate on anything

14:10 <CoderForLife> too busy

14:10 <old> am running CPDN on this box

14:11 <CoderForLife> good

14:11 <old> and am messing with a zone alarm Z100G router and Zone alarm anti everything trying to learn the systems

14:11 <CoderForLife> I gave up on CPDN a long time ago, personally

14:11 <hawmps> 'lo Dana

14:11 <CoderForLife> was getting too many errors

14:11 <old> JAY Hi :)

14:11 <hawmps> too many crashes..

14:12 <Romulus> On old ones, tracks ran on wheels.

14:12 <hawmps> nice to see you back for a bit..

14:13 <CoderForLife> agreed in that

14:14 <old> will try to get on more often, have been having problems with the head :( but am hanging in there , need to start working, would be good for me

14:15 <hawmps> wow...

14:15 <hawmps> Charges against Lance Corporal Stephen B. Tatum, 26, for his alleged involvement in the death of Iraqi civillians in Haditha, Iraq on Nov. 19, 2005, were dismissed today.

14:15 <old> I've had this damm dule core for 2 years and still haven't put it all togeather, and I have all the parts etc , just can't concentrate on anything, am basicialy a couch patoto

14:16 <hawmps> finally...

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14:16 <hawmps> http://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/Tatum_Haditha_no_charges/2008/03/28/83811.html?promo_code=2A89-1

14:16 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1k$2> (at www.newsmax.com)

14:17 <old> great you all want to see what an ex helo crew chief and a C-130 Flight engeener went through ?

14:17 <old> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iM3vLer6YFg&feature=related

14:17 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1k$4> (at www.youtube.com)

14:17 <CoderForLife> take that, Murtha

14:18 <old> This is the best thing I've seen for awhile :)

14:20 <old> have some new programs I'm working with and am trying to learn some thing about all these boxes I have really work and try and make them work for me instead agenest me

14:21 <old> Hows TGG and Spit the dog ?

14:22 <old> oh and EL ?

14:22 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news Mar 28, 2008

14:23 <Tank_Master> not much in the way of news there, Romulus

14:23 <old> What do you all think ?

14:25 <old> BRB

14:25 <PovAddict> bbl

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14:35 <old> I going go into lurking mode this damm dule core is going gonna get running today ,I have two SLI vid cards 4 10,000 rpm 100 gig hard drives and a fax modome to in stall ,a raid 01 arry to build and an operating system to install and then I can clean up this mess and brinr the rest of the farm back to life

14:37 <old> so I'll be here just lurking and mabey I can catach up on what's happing round BOINC :)

14:37 <CoderForLife> good luck on your dually

14:38 <CoderForLife> to your question, TGG and EL come around occasionally, Spit has been gone a long time

14:38 <CoderForLife> &seen Spit_theDog

14:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 45 weeks, 2 days, 8 hours, 9 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

14:38 <old> thanks CFL , ,when it starts to run I hope it will rock ,mabey yes

14:38 <CoderForLife> &seen ELGono

14:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: ELGono was last seen in #boinc 1 week, 0 days, 20 hours, 20 minutes, and 14 seconds ago: <ELGono> just popped in to have a look on weather (rather than looking out the window)

14:38 <CoderForLife> &seen TheGasGiant

14:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 5 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

14:39 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

14:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 40.8F / 4.9C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Cloudy. Highs in the mid 40s. North winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the upper 20s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. East (1 more message)

14:39 <CoderForLife> &more

14:39 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 10 to 15 mph.;

14:40 <old> I don't know why I've been off line so long ,I realy miss you lot ,gess it's just the blues :(

14:40 <hawmps> some of us are still hanging out..

14:41 * CoderForLife tightens his belt

14:42 <old> No better place to be I recon. Just have too get my head screwed back on stright is all, and what better pace to be ,eh ?

14:42 <old> place

14:45 <CoderForLife> sorta like "Cheers" - where everybody know your name

14:45 <CoderForLife> knows*

14:46 <old> roger that :)

14:46 <old> and buy the looks of it alot more too learn, remember thr bete days ?

14:46 <FreeLarry58> howdy old - long time no see

14:47 <old> the bate days

14:47 <FreeLarry58> tgg sounded alright last time i saw him in but haven't seen spit forever

14:47 <FreeLarry58> beta?

14:47 <Romulus> I guess beta is always awesome, FreeLarry58

14:49 <old> Hey Free :) long time is right ,glade to hear TGG is sounding good , the last time I heard from Spit was when I put her on the train in Gallup almost 2 years ago

14:49 * FreeLarry58 uses remote camera to try and fnd where he left his head this time - needless to say last time found it needed a good scrubbing before putting back on

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14:49 <zombie67> MT?

14:49 <Romulus> hmm... MT is right, zombie67

14:50 <FreeLarry58> she must still be around as still get credit on boinc but a lot less than befoe

14:51 <FreeLarry58> so old that turtle still trying to hatch huh

14:51 <old> yes :(

14:52 <FreeLarry58> well long gestation times for the breed i guess been a few changes here

14:52 <old> I've been out of it for a while now,darn depreson

14:52 <FreeLarry58> had one board burn up so upgraded machine to quad - that was right after i put together an new dually

14:53 <FreeLarry58> can understand that - normally a little depressed here most days but still try to gt along

14:53 <Romulus> but I have no idea if it's on the other...

14:53 <old> hate smoke checking :(

14:54 <FreeLarry58> lol not smoke check = machine had ran for two years - the room got shut up while granddaughter was here and not opened till i got home that night so overheated due to heat buildup in room

14:55 <old> Thats no good need more fans ?

14:55 <FreeLarry58> room got in to high 90's or over 100 about blew me over when i opend it

14:56 <FreeLarry58> prescott core so didn't like it much

14:56 <old> darn thts cooking

14:56 <FreeLarry58> 7 machcines in this room

14:56 <hawmps> my 2 quads barely generate any heat at all..

14:56 <FreeLarry58> keep door open to heat basement

14:57 <old> I have a small window A/C for summer and heat the house durring the winter

14:57 <FreeLarry58> yeah hawmps noticed that on the new quad and the new dually

14:57 <FreeLarry58> heatpump here now old but during winter soooo

14:58 <CoderForLife> good to see you, old - I'll bbiab

14:58 <CoderForLife> u2 Larry =)

14:58 <FreeLarry58> once i get the wifes credit cards paid down (again) mayb i can upgrade a few more

14:58 <FreeLarry58> wb CoderForLife

15:00 <old> I have a 120mm Zaleman with heatpipes for the CPU in the turtle and a 630 watt power supply for the twoSLI cards and 4 10,000rpm 100 gig HD's and the box has 2 120mm fans in it ,hope thats enough for it

15:01 <Tank_Master> 100GB?

15:01 <Tank_Master> SCSI?

15:01 <Romulus> afghanistan for al qaeda

15:02 <FreeLarry58> off to experiment

15:03 <Tank_Master> hf

15:06 <old> Western digitial , 5year warenty ,I have 5 36 Gig 4 75 gig and the 4 100 gig ones

15:07 <FreeLarry58> humm what would normally be d: drive (cd/dvd) be called in linus?

15:08 <old> I have them running in a couple of my boxes and a couple on the shelf to put into a couple of the other boxes, think at last count I had 7 home built ones and one factory one a sony viao

15:08 <DerMeister> Depends on the type of the drive.... Here I have two hard drives called /dev/hda and /dev/hda... My cd-writer is /dev/hdc while my dvd-drive is /dev/hdd...

15:08 <DerMeister> but this will be different for scsi or sata drives

15:09 <DerMeister> maybe there is even /dev/cdrom oder /dev/cdrom1 etc...

15:10 <FreeLarry58> ahh was looking to try command line to make an iso but couldn't remember what called either

15:10 <FreeLarry58> is there a way to check what the drive is called - the machine has one hd and one combo dvd/cd rew

15:10 <FreeLarry58> rw

15:11 <hawmps> scsi or something else?

15:11 <Romulus> hell primegird is just 'sd'

15:11 <hawmps> it's usually hda or hdb

15:12 <FreeLarry58> think the hd is hda humm just remembered there is second hd in there so its hdb

15:12 <hawmps> then it will be hdc

15:12 <FreeLarry58> hd are sata

15:12 <hawmps> or hdd

15:13 <FreeLarry58> looks like player is eide

15:13 <hawmps> turning on automount usually solves the problem

15:14 <FreeLarry58> yeah but using putty as machine is deadheaded

15:15 <FreeLarry58> guess i will take to different machine and use gui

15:16 <hawmps> eide will still show up as hdx

15:19 <hawmps> look at /etc/mtab or fstab

15:19 <hawmps> later.. from home.

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15:32 <FreeLarry58> creating it on frlar2 currently

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15:38 * old is back - L.A.S.F. - Later all Simper Fi - 1m.7s

15:38 <efc> moo old

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15:43 <efc> Another case of connectile dysfunction?

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15:44 * CoderForLife tries to pull old out of the spacetime anomaly

15:45 <CoderForLife> retteb hcum, ereht

15:46 <efc> Drat, did you put something metal in the microwave while I had the hyperdrive turned on, again?

15:46 <old> Think I'm back LOL ,darn space warps

15:48 <FreeLarry58> dang another kernal update so rebooting frlar2

15:48 <xcamel> re-hi

15:49 <CoderForLife> re-hi 2 u

15:49 <Tank_Master> xcamel!

15:49 <CoderForLife> I hate it when that happens, efc, old

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15:53 <CoderForLife> I seem to be running an orbit wu

15:54 <CoderForLife> what's the prognosis on orbit WUs?

15:54 <CoderForLife> are they better behaved now?

15:55 <CoderForLife> &seen tricaric

15:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: tricaric was last seen in #boinc 6 days, 19 hours, 45 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <tricaric> there are several different WUs... some take 1 hour, some 1 week...

15:55 <PovAddict> might take ages to run then error when done

15:55 <CoderForLife> ah, sounds like phun

15:55 <CoderForLife> should I just kill it now?

15:56 <PovAddict> what's the ETA?

15:56 <CoderForLife> 47 hours to completion

15:56 <PovAddict> sounds likle phun indeed

15:56 <CoderForLife> total 170 CPU so far

15:56 <DerMeister> Uh... Got another big LHC wu on my old P3...

15:56 <PovAddict> 170 what?

15:57 <CoderForLife> CPU time so far 170:36:01

15:57 <CoderForLife> 77% progress

15:57 <PovAddict> oh erm

15:57 <PovAddict> I'd say let it run, if you're past 50% already :P

15:57 <PovAddict> &boincerr -131

15:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: file size too big

15:57 * CoderForLife puts away the elephant gun

15:59 <FreeLarry58> old this is the machine that had mb fry http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=1293

15:59 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1k+s> (at boincstats.com)

15:59 * xcamel yawns

15:59 <FreeLarry58> and this is after upgrade http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=3274650

15:59 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1PQy> (at boincstats.com)

15:59 * FreeLarry58 hands xcamel a pillow

16:00 <FreeLarry58> and a

16:00 * xcamel needs a nap

16:00 <FreeLarry58> &coffee to xcamel

16:00 <Romulus> Here's your quad expresso!! BANG! Need an ambulance in 10 minutes?

16:00 * efc just finished off a Moo-Latte

16:00 <FreeLarry58> PovAddict sent you a side messages

16:02 <FreeLarry58> guess i had a lot in pending status laying around - machines only doing around 7500 c/d and geting over 10000 a day currently

16:02 <mweltin> PovAddict, my workgenerator WU's crashed and burned.  I'm still trying to work out the details of what happened.

16:03 <FreeLarry58> well time for fcommute so see you all much later

16:04 <mweltin> bye FreeLarry58

16:04 <xcamel> some times the Brits kill me...

16:04 <xcamel> "NG to make PMS for new British A-sub"

16:05 <xcamel> thet would be the "HMS PMS" ??

16:05 <xcamel> http://www.upi.com/International_Security/Industry/Briefing/2008/03/28/ng_to_make_pms_for_new_british_a-sub/1484/

16:05 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1k-1> (at www.upi.com)

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16:15 <mweltin> PovAddict, the results were unable to find the download file.  I put all the files in the download dir as you suggested, and it appears that a url with a download directory was created.

16:16 <mweltin> I'm going to run the generator again to see if I can verify the correct instance file makes it to the correct download directory

16:16 <Tank_Master> mw!

16:16 <mweltin> tank!

16:16 <Tank_Master> sup?

16:16 <Romulus> on it's best day...

16:16 <Tank_Master> how goes ACO?

16:17 <mweltin> work generator WU's crapped out.

16:17 <Tank_Master> ouch

16:17 <mweltin> couldn't find the download file.

16:17 <Tank_Master> Pov not smart enough to fix it?

16:17 <Tank_Master> :P

16:19 <mweltin> HAHAHA he is but I'm trying to fix it first.

16:19 <Tank_Master> ahh

16:19 <Tank_Master> good for you

16:19 <mweltin> once I run out of ideas/options I'm going to try and tap PovAddict for some answers.

16:20 * Tank_Master is listening to: DJ Ballo`s - TranceFader 006

16:20 <mweltin> he helped me out the other day to at least get it running.

16:20 <Tank_Master> coo

16:22 <mweltin> PovAddict, you there?

16:22 * Tank_Master slaps PovAddict around a bit with a large trout

16:22 <mweltin> adding debug information doesn't slow down a program, just makes the code foot print bigger right?

16:23 <PovAddict> well of course it slows it down

16:23 <PovAddict> it's just usually too little to matter

16:23 <Tank_Master> lol

16:23 <mweltin> will "strip" take care of that, or do I need to recompile? not that it matters :)

16:23 <DerMeister> Depends on where you put the debug information... Putting it into the "hot loop" is probably a bad idea if the application should be used in production...

16:24 <PovAddict> ohh

16:24 <PovAddict> I thought you meant printing debugging info

16:24 <PovAddict> if you mean just -g, no, it shouldn't slow down stuff

16:24 <DerMeister> Recompiling with -O2 and without -g and an additional strip after that should provide the best executable - provided your program still works after optimization ;)

16:24 <mweltin> no "foot print" like code size.

16:24 <mweltin> LOL

16:25 <PovAddict> I thought you meant printing debugging messages

16:25 <DerMeister> PovAddict: if you use -g *instead* of -O2 will slow down things dramatically ;)

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16:28 <mweltin> well the instance file ends up where it should, so that is not the problem.

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17:13 <Tank_Master> holy crap

17:13 <Tank_Master> http://www.flixxy.com/red-button.htm

17:13 <Romulus> Title: DON'T Press The Red Button (at www.flixxy.com)

17:13 <PovAddict> classic

17:13 <PovAddict> it's in a hundred sites

17:13 <Tank_Master> lol

17:13 <Tank_Master> fist I have seen it

17:14 <PovAddict> oh not that one :)

17:14 <PovAddict> I was thinking http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.txt

17:14 <PovAddict> DAMN CLIPBOARD

17:14 <PovAddict> http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=9644

17:14 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1FK9> (at www.i-am-bored.com)

17:16 <mweltin> OH MY GOD, I just called the communit college here to find out what they offer for math and compter science.

17:16 <Tank_Master> and?

17:16 <Romulus> Somebody said and is with no internet for like a month, Tank_Master

17:17 <mweltin> hightest math class is calc 1, and they don't have a computer science dept, the best they have there is programming 1 which is based on Visual Basic.

17:17 <Tank_Master> wow

17:17 <mweltin> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH VB HAHAhahahahahahahahahaha

17:17 <Tank_Master> suckith to me you

17:17 * mweltin wipes tears from eyes

17:17 <Tank_Master> be*

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17:20 <mweltin> not myproblem

17:26 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

17:26 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 42.9F / 6.1C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy this evening...then clearing. Lows in the upper 20s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of (1 more message)

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17:26 <CoderForLife> &more

17:26 <Romulus> CoderForLife: showers in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

17:26 <Romulus> I think the source code.

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17:27 <CoderForLife> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAH VB HAHAhahahahahahahahahaha

17:27 <CoderForLife> er, also

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17:37 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:39 <xcamel> re-back

17:43 <DerMeister> Uah... Changeset 14981 looks really horrible...

17:43 <Romulus> orbit@home had VERY small tasks. Each granted a very compact, low energy farm

17:43 <PovAddict> you think??

17:43 <PovAddict> oh not the one I thought

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17:45 <DerMeister> looks like dozens of memory leaks...

17:45 <Rookie_69> ... I forget...

17:46 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

17:46 <Rookie_69> *lo, Doug.

17:46 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia around a bit with a large trout

17:46 <Tank_Master> mornin wdsmia

17:47 <Rookie_69> Is it mornin already?

17:47 <wdsmia> *lo Tank_Master

17:49 * Rookie_69 slaps Tank_Master with a large WDSMIA.

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17:50 <mweltin> best slap ever

17:51 <Rookie_69> Doug was busy and couldn't defend himself... or something.

17:52 <xcamel> &slap Rookie_69

17:52 <Romulus> No idea, xcamel.

17:52 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

17:53 <xcamel> Hi Glenn

17:53 <xcamel> &insult Rookie_69

17:53 <Romulus> Rookie_69 - You are nothing but a despicable stack of thick poopy.

17:53 <xcamel> ah.. that worked.

17:53 <Rookie_69> Somebody decided to dump a bit more snow here today... again.

17:54 <Tank_Master> coo

17:54 <Rookie_69> Cars and trucks off the road everywhere and I couldn't break traction when trying.

17:55 <Rookie_69> It must take that certain... something...

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17:56 <Rookie_69> Poopy huh? Xcamel should know about stacks of poopy...

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18:00 <xcamel> that would be "piles of beans"

18:04 <Rookie_69> You sure they're not really giant rabbits?

18:07 <xcamel> sometimes they are..

18:10 <Rookie_69> You selling the by-products?

18:10 <Rookie_69> http://www.bluerockstation.com/llama_poo.html

18:10 <Romulus> Title: Llama Manure Fertilizer for Sale (at www.bluerockstation.com)

18:11 <efc> We did our field with chicken poo and it hasn't rained for over a week now ...

18:11 <xcamel> I give it away..

18:12 <Rookie_69> Mmm... chicken... The second smelliest...

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18:13 <Rookie_69> ... maybe even worse than pig...

18:13 <Romulus> is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

18:14 <Rookie_69> Rommie likes Kathryn...

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18:19 * Rookie_69 appears to be having fried chicken embryos for supper.

18:20 <MTughan> I don't think they have this yet, but looks like nice memory... http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018121&cid=RAM.346.307

18:20 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kAC> (at www.canadacomputers.com)

18:20 <MTughan> It was just added today.

18:23 <Rookie_69> They sell computers in Canada???

18:23 <Rookie_69> I better go check this out.

18:24 <Rookie_69> They're all in Upper Canada :-(

18:25 <xcamel> off to see the daughter's play...

18:25 <xcamel> bbl..

18:25 <Rookie_69> K.

18:26 <Rookie_69> That's it... I'm moving into my parents' back yard in Muskoka.

18:32 <Rookie_69> That would almost cut the distance to Doug's place in half.

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18:32 <Rookie_69> Hi, K.

18:32 * wdsmia would have to move to the west coast

18:34 <wdsmia> just to stay upwind of Rookie_69

18:34 <Rookie_69> No matter... They wouldn't let me across the border anymore.

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18:35 <Rookie_69> Bye, K.

18:35 <Rookie_69> Is it tomorrow in Korea yet?

18:45 <Rookie_69> Must be an inch of snow on the road... Good thing the plow went by before there was any real accumulation...

18:46 <wdsmia> lol

18:47 <Rookie_69> Now, they can claim overtime.

18:51 <Rookie_69> The city complains about being over budget, and yesterday there must have been about a ton of salt on each kilometer of sidewalk, and no snow or ice... I don't understand them.

19:00 <Tank_Master> its the government, what would you expect?

19:01 <Tank_Master> they want money, and they will spend it on anything that makes their lives easier

19:04 <Rookie_69> At least this snow should all melt off of the sidewalks... maybe they were thinking ahead? Nope. They're probably out right now pushing the salt off of the sidewalks with their little plows.

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19:07 <Rookie_69> No, wait... Maybe the sidewalk plows aren't allowed out until 10 am monday...

19:07 <Tank_Master> lol

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19:09 <Rookie_69> I think the main job of the sidewalk plow is to push the snow back out into the street after the street has been cleared.

19:09 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jord!

19:09 <Ageless> don't talk about snow. We had it, I am glad it's gone. We're getting temps up to 15C now.

19:10 <Ageless> hi all. :)

19:10 <Tank_Master> hey

19:10 * Rookie_69 is getting snowed on as we speak.

19:10 <Ageless> tell it to take a hike, Glenn. ;)

19:11 * Tank_Master wants more snow

19:11 <Rookie_69> ... and temps of 1C.

19:11 <Tank_Master> lol

19:11 <Tank_Master> balmy

19:11 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:11 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 31.8°F / -0.1°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 8:11 PM ADT; Tonight - Periods of snow. Amount 10 to 15 cm(3.9 to 5.8 in). Wind becoming northeast 20 km/h (12 mph) this evening. Low -3C(26F).; Saturday - Cloudy with sunny periods and 70 percent chance of flurries. Wind north 20 (1 more message)

19:11 <PovAddict> hey Ageless

19:12 <Ageless> I spoke with Eric Myers a while back, after he had cleared the snow off his walkway to the house and also off the neighbors', he plowed it all into the street and got a warning from the police that that was not allowed.

19:12 <Ageless> makes me wonder where you're supposed to leave the stuff then. Flush it down the toilet? ;)

19:13 <Rookie_69> That overtaxes the sewer...

19:14 <Rookie_69> Piles of snow pushed back into the street are a hazard to people driving by...

19:14 <PovAddict> Ageless: no....

19:14 <PovAddict> you make snowballs

19:14 <Rookie_69> Make snow blocks and build a fort on the front lawn?

19:15 <PovAddict> and aim at police

19:16 * Rookie_69 is California Dreamin' on days like this.

19:16 <Ageless> he's living in a dead-end.

19:16 <Ageless> not that many people driving by.

19:17 <Tank_Master> you make a snow wall across the street.  Helps keep the noise down from the moterized cars

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19:18 <Rookie_69> A friend of mine was going to lay hot water pipes in his driveway to melt the snow, but he got transferred before he did it.

19:19 <Ageless> to warmer regions where they know snow only from pictures?

19:20 <PovAddict> it snowed here last year

19:20 <PovAddict> during a single day, and for the first time in... 50 years?

19:21 <Rookie_69> Shame Canada never took up Turks & Caicos on their offer. :-(

19:22 <Rookie_69> Global warming...

19:23 <Ageless> the new favorite stop word

19:25 * Rookie_69 is looking forward to eleven months of summer...

19:25 <Ageless> you moving to Mercury or Venus?

19:27 <Rookie_69> Maybe Venus... Sulphuric acid atmosphere might be good for an energy source... If I bring enough lead plates...

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19:30 <Rookie_69> If I were young enough to enjoy a snowmobile ride, I might really enjoy living in my parents' back yard...

19:31 <Ageless> that begs the question how old (you think) you are and how old your parents are... nothing said about the size of their backgraden.

19:31 <Ageless> and garden

19:31 <Rookie_69> A thousand odd miles inland and summer is hotter and winter is colder.

19:32 <Rookie_69> I'm not half as old as I think I am...

19:32 <Rookie_69> Well, maybe half...

19:33 <Rookie_69> They are on a ten acre plot...

19:33 <Ageless> young by heart and soul, huh?

19:33 <Ageless> you're as old as you feel, not look.

19:33 <Rookie_69> ... and they're older than me by a bit...

19:33 <Rookie_69> I feel about eighty, most days.

19:34 <Ageless> unleashing some scientific formula onto that, you're about 56 then.

19:35 <Rookie_69> Nine hours a day on a concrete floor really takes it out of me... I get sore just about 0730 as I am arriving.

19:35 <Rookie_69> Not yet... only 45 according to thr calendar.

19:36 <Rookie_69> ... the...

19:37 <Rookie_69> Good formula though...

19:38 <Ageless> it needs some tweaking. I'll add the warning "give or take 12 years either way" to it.

19:38 <Rookie_69> Smashed my finger with a hammer today... Why?.. Because I picked up a hammer.

19:39 <Tank_Master> no, its because your finger was in the path of the hammer

19:39 <Rookie_69> Gouged my hand with a screwdriver the other day... why?..

19:39 <Tank_Master> and the hammer tranfered energy into the finger

19:39 <Ageless> the screw fell.

19:39 <Rookie_69> I wasn;t even screwing.

19:39 <Tank_Master> thats to bad

19:39 <Tank_Master> you need to get a GF then

19:40 <Rookie_69> Lol.

19:40 <Ageless> then you'd best take a can opener like normal people

19:40 <Ageless> they're cheap

19:40 <Ageless> and less dangerous than a hammer and a screwdriver. Or just don't eat canned food anymore.

19:40 <Rookie_69> Have you ever had one of those days? That's my life.

19:40 <Ageless> and drink your beer from a bottle

19:41 <wdsmia> Rookie's problem is that he needs to be smarter than the tool

19:41 <Rookie_69> Keg...

19:41 <Rookie_69> :-P

19:41 <Ageless> no... cos you won't get the peg out without some tool

19:41 <Rookie_69> You can get food in a can???

19:41 <PovAddict> lol outdated

19:42 <Ageless> we can: our microwave died

19:42 <Rookie_69> Kegs don't have pegs nowadays...

19:42 <PovAddict> I remember a website saying "There was an error with your request, but the page for displaying the error had an error too. This will be one of those days."

19:45 <Rookie_69> I made the mistake of stalling a Chrysler 3.1 litre engine by putting my hand too close to the serpentine belt a few years ago, and my hand hasn't been the same since.

19:45 <Rookie_69> It's more like a weather forecaster now...

19:46 <wdsmia> Ouch

19:46 <Rookie_69> If it feels like someone's hitting it with a hammer, we're in for some weather.

19:46 <Rookie_69> ... or I'm holding a hammer...

19:47 <Rookie_69> ... except that's my hammer-holding hand...

19:48 <Ageless> someone else hit you on the hand, maybe?

19:48 <Romulus> not sure. I'd love testing it on frlar2 currently

19:48 * PovAddict hits Romulus with FreeLarry's computer

19:48 <Rookie_69> Not any of my friends... Oh wait... I don't have any left.

19:49 <Rookie_69> ;-)

19:49 <Ageless> perhaps one on your right?

19:50 <Rookie_69> Yup. TV is on my right.

19:50 <Rookie_69> ... and stereo.

19:50 <Ageless> and the microwave dinners

19:50 <Rookie_69> ?

19:50 <Rookie_69> What's a microwave dinner?

19:51 * Rookie_69 likes to cook.

19:51 <Ageless> uneatable

19:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.

19:51 <Rookie_69> :-)

19:51 <PovAddict> rook the cook

19:51 * Rookie_69 isn't a good cook, just likes to try.

19:52 <Tank_Master> your a pretend cook

19:52 <Ageless> as long as you don't burn the house down and you feel fed afterwards, it's all right, Glenn

19:52 <wdsmia> Rookie's idea of a microwave dinner is sticking a sandwich in the cd-rom drive

19:52 <Rookie_69> ... and press burn...

19:53 <PovAddict> lol wdsmia

19:54 <Rookie_69> Six hours to produce a pot of soup may not be professional, but I can have a lot of fun.

19:54 <Ageless> you can't burn anything in a cd-ROm drive... ;)

19:54 <Rookie_69> D'OH!

19:54 <Tank_Master> QMC's beta apps is long

19:54 <Tank_Master> I gave one stating itll take 221h on my core2duo 3GHz

19:55 <Tank_Master> might as well run climate!

19:55 <Rookie_69> I think every CPDN I tried crapped out after six months or so.

19:56 <Ageless> I started running one of the CPDN Beta models. Initial ETC 4665 hours. That's 6.5 months. After 12 hours it was at 0.2%... um... no thanks.

19:57 <PovAddict> first one I ran...

19:57 <PovAddict> I detached before first trickle :)

19:57 <PovAddict> next... crash after 300 hrs

19:57 <PovAddict> I think the next was a success

19:58 <Rookie_69> I let a few go until they crapped out.

19:58 <PovAddict> I also ran a few small ones (300 hrs *total*)

19:59 <Ageless> my QMC says it still needs another 58 hours but it is only at 20% after 8 hours...

19:59 <PovAddict> &google calc 58 hours / 20% * 100%

19:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((58 hours) / (20%)) * (100%) = 12.0833333 days

19:59 <PovAddict> er

19:59 <PovAddict> &google calc 8 hours / 20% * 100%

19:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((8 hours) / (20%)) * (100%) = 1.66666667 days

20:00 <Rookie_69> That's only 40 hours...

20:00 <Ageless> if it ran alone... too bad for it there's 14 other projects also wanting my one CPU ;)

20:00 <PovAddict> &google calc 8 hours / 20% * 100% in hours

20:00 <Romulus> PovAddict: ((8 hours) / (20%)) * (100%) = 40 hours

20:00 <PovAddict> Ageless: solution is pretty simple

20:00 <PovAddict> more CPUs

20:00 <Ageless> I need more money first then.

20:01 <Rookie_69> My solution is pretty simple too...

20:01 <Ageless> the other day someone asked my why I was using that antiquated CPU on a project.

20:01 <PovAddict> a friend surpassed 500k quite long ago

20:01 <PovAddict> because he attached a friends' computers

20:01 <PovAddict> including a quad

20:01 <Ageless> I explained quite pleasantly that that antiquated CPU is the only one I have and when it dies, I'm gone... ;)

20:01 <Rookie_69> Methyl alcohol, CO2, water, barley, etc...

20:01 <wdsmia> http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_host_detail.php?hostid=60098

20:01 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/16Xg> (at lhcathome.cern.ch)

20:02 <Rookie_69> Annoying Mouse???

20:02 <PovAddict> 323/533 benchmark? lol

20:02 <Ageless> not that antiquated

20:03 <Ageless> I run a real Paul D. Buck P4 2.8GHhz ;)

20:03 <PovAddict> I run a part-time P4 3.0GHz

20:03 <Ageless> oiow I got it from Paul a ways back.

20:03 <PovAddict> and a full-time AMD Athlon dual core 4200+

20:04 <Rookie_69> The only Paul I know here doesn't seem to have a last name...

20:04 <wdsmia> I would list mine... but dont want to flood the channel ;)

20:04 <Ageless> I'm still supposed to 'take-over' Holly's PC and install BOINC on it, but I never seem to find the time. She's got a P4 2.6GHz HT, one we got from mikey.

20:07 <Rookie_69> My old AMD's seem to be dying unceremonious deaths...

20:07 <Ageless> something to do with a hammer?

20:08 <Rookie_69> Old age? I replaced one power supply, but it still won't boot.

20:08 <PovAddict> mobo?

20:09 <Rookie_69> I thought those swollen capacitors were a dead giveaway.

20:09 <Ageless> you can replace them... I did on one mobo and one videocard.

20:09 <Ageless> just needs some good old swearing and a soldering iron, plus the correct new capacitors.

20:10 <Rookie_69> My last AN\MD mobo that died had 18 swollen caps and I didn't even try.

20:10 <Rookie_69> ... AMD...

20:10 <wdsmia> He hits himself with a hammer and stabs himself with a scewdriver and now you want to give him a sodering iron?

20:11 <Ageless> perhaps he does better with electrical appliances.

20:11 <Rookie_69> Cauterization is a wonderful thing.

20:11 <Ageless> he can also cook, which usually happens on gas...

20:11 <Rookie_69> Stops the bleeding.

20:12 <Rookie_69> Only gas here is usually a result of cooking.

20:12 <wdsmia> lol

20:13 <Ageless> if you boil your soup for 6 hours, yeah right!

20:13 <Rookie_69> Stove is electric... and I've had to rewire that twice, The landlady only buys the best of the rest...

20:14 <Ageless> you can probably loosen the capacitors by placing the defunct mobo onto the cooker then.

20:14 <Ageless> it's dead already anyway...

20:15 <Ageless> Keith is on his way. Hide everyone ;)

20:16 <PovAddict> /nick PovAddict_away

20:16 <Rookie_69> The refrigerator is too small for me and the guy below me has one that is too big for him; We thought about trading, but stairs probably wouldn't take the weight.

20:16 <Romulus> well change the version name messed up

20:17 * Rookie_69 hides.

20:17 <Ageless> I have a link somewhere that shows you in small words how best to replace capacitors. I'll look it up if you want me to.

20:17 * wdsmia hides on top

20:17 <Rookie_69> Caps were in PS that is long gone.

20:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

20:18 <Rookie_69> Don't piss off Doug anymore...

20:18 <Rookie_69> What? No nasty message?

20:18 <wdsmia> better to be pissed off than on

20:18 <Rookie_69> Yup.

20:20 *** wdsmia sets mode: +o Romulus

20:20 *** Romulus sets mode: -o wdsmia

20:20 <Ageless> I'm not sure who I'd rather have breathing down my neck... that bot or...

20:21 <wdsmia> &roulette

20:21 <Romulus> wdsmia: *click*

20:21 <PovAddict> Ageless: type &roulette and you'll see :)

20:21 <Rookie_69> Raquel Welch?

20:21 <Ageless> Kylie Minogue

20:22 *** Keith_Stanley has joined #Boinc

20:22 <Ageless> hey Keith

20:22 <Rookie_69> Aw... Who invited him?

20:22 <Keith_Stanley> Now then ...

20:22 <wdsmia> there goes the neiborhood

20:22 <Rookie_69> ... I mean Hi, Keith...

20:22 * Ageless looks away

20:23 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:23 <Keith_Stanley> Ah..P...  Nice to see you guys as well.

20:23 <Ageless> this is at least easier than switching between Skype and this window.

20:23 <Keith_Stanley> :o)

20:23 <Keith_Stanley> Yep..

20:23 <Ageless> all those times typing in the wrong window...

20:23 <PovAddict> hey Keith

20:23 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

20:23 <PovAddict> Ageless: wrong windows are dangerous

20:23 * Rookie_69 didn't even turn Skype on.

20:24 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o Romulus

20:24 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

20:24 <Keith_Stanley> Aye up Pov...

20:24 <PovAddict> &seen Spit_theDog

20:24 <Romulus> PovAddict: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 45 weeks, 2 days, 13 hours, 55 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

20:24 <Keith_Stanley> Hell..that long ago...

20:25 <Rookie_69> Jan doesn't seem to visit very often anymore.

20:25 <PovAddict> getting close to a year

20:26 <Rookie_69> I haven't even played "Another One Bites The Dust" for her in a long time.

20:27 <Keith_Stanley> There's not much sign of life on her machines over at Seti..but she's still active over at Malaria

20:28 <PovAddict> no email reply?

20:28 <CoderForLife> I've e-mailed her 3 times - no reply

20:28 <PovAddict> nobody has her phone number??

20:28 * CoderForLife sighs

20:28 <CoderForLife> sethy has called her

20:29 <PovAddict> ...and?

20:29 <CoderForLife> she says her boxes are slowly dying, and that she forgets how to get on IRC, iir what he said

20:29 <Keith_Stanley> I've got her phone number somewhere...

20:30 <CoderForLife> I have her address somewhere

20:30 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

20:30 <CoderForLife> I think sethy was planning to coach her through IRC again

20:30 <CoderForLife> hey Glenn

20:31 <CoderForLife> I think TheGasGiant has e-mailed as well

20:31 <PovAddict> everyone is after her

20:32 <CoderForLife> I think he may have been the last person to visit her, quite some time ago

20:32 <Keith_Stanley> S'OK..I've found her phone number and address...so I'll try calling some time tomorrow.

20:32 <CoderForLife> thanks Keith - she is sorely missed here

20:35 <Keith_Stanley> No problem..I'll let you know how I get on.

20:35 <CoderForLife> ty

20:35 * Ageless wonders how many times people went looking for my last sightng until I popped back up here last week

20:35 <CoderForLife> I'm off to get ready for the BSG specials at 10pm

20:36 <CoderForLife> I didn't know to look for you, Ageless =)

20:36 <Rookie_69> Have to dig out somr Gerry Rafferety for her...

20:37 <CoderForLife> I tried to get her hooked on Skyline Chili when she visited me - I thought the withdrawl pags would keep her coming back

20:37 <Rookie_69> &seen ageless

20:37 <Romulus> Rookie_69: ageless was last seen in #boinc 1 minute and 26 seconds ago: * Ageless wonders how many times people went looking for my last sightng until I popped back up here last week

20:37 <CoderForLife> pangs*

20:37 <Rookie_69> See?

20:37 <Ageless> thanks ;)

20:38 <CoderForLife> speaking of fixes - the final season of Battlestar Galactica begins with two specials tonight =)

20:38 <CoderForLife> cya nice folks back here soon

20:38 <Rookie_69> Dirk Benedict and Richard Hatch?

20:38 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:39 <Rookie_69> Bye.

20:39 <CoderForLife> Hatch, yes

20:39 <CoderForLife> buh-bye

20:39 *** CoderForLife has quit IRC

20:39 <Ageless> go away. the station that did BSG here took it off the air as the new coordinator didn't like sci-fi. They put season 10 of Stargate in a slot at 5am !!

20:39 <Ageless> ah he is away already

20:41 <wdsmia> A recap of the space opera's first three seasons is featured. Executive producers Ronald D. Moore and David Eick provide commentary.

20:43 <wdsmia> 2nd part The space opera's appeal is examined with celebrities. Remarks from actor Seth Green, country-music singer Brad Paisley and "The Soup" host Joel McHal

20:44 * wdsmia thinks he will pass

20:44 <Rookie_69> I guess Richard Hatch couldn't find a real job and came back for the remake.

20:44 <Rookie_69> ... or something...

20:45 <Rookie_69> I think Dirk Benedict had a sex-change operation...

20:45 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:47 <Rookie_69> Country and music in the same sentence... is that legal?

20:48 <MTughan> lol...

20:48 <wdsmia> play it backwards

20:48 <Rookie_69> ... you get your dog back...

20:49 <Rookie_69> ... you get your truck back...

20:49 <Ageless> but your woman stays away

20:49 <Rookie_69> ... you get your house back...

20:52 <Rookie_69> With that much back, no wonder they came up with Brokeback...

20:52 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:54 <Rookie_69> Oh well. I didn't see the movie either.

20:54 <Ageless> it starts smelling like popcirn here.

20:54 * wdsmia looks back though the log... this room is looking like a TFFE convention

20:55 <Keith_Stanley> Don't panic....

20:55 <Ageless> I'm no TFFE'er... got forced off by our friends in Seti, remember?

20:56 <Keith_Stanley> Only too well.

20:56 <Ageless> as they didn't want all moderators to be of TFFE... so now most are of BS.

20:57 <Ageless> but I digress, continue ;)

20:57 <wdsmia> well the "BS" part is right in more ways than one

20:57 <Keith_Stanley> Hmmm...

20:58 <MTughan> And I'm glad I'm not part of TFFE.

20:58 <PovAddict> from a PM I got:

20:58 <PovAddict> "3. Unfortunately the Mods that have been appointed/chosen are virtually all, loners, recluses, or have obvious psychological problems. I suppose anyone interested in doing that job would be like that."

20:58 <Keith_Stanley> I don't blame you...  :)

20:58 <wdsmia> we woulnt have you MTughan j/k

20:59 <MTughan> http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9072699

20:59 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kBj> (at www.computerworld.com)

20:59 <Rookie_69> Aw, come on... We could use another Canuck...

21:00 <Rookie_69> ... unless I'm getting confused... again...

21:00 <MTughan> No, I'm Canadian.

21:01 <Keith_Stanley> I'm confused...I wouldn't be any other way...

21:01 <Rookie_69> Toronto... or thereabouts...

21:01 <Ageless> it was written into the dictionary after the writers got one look at Keith

21:03 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam16/IMG_0249.JPG    i need to remove that rotor pcb without breaking it, anyone done this ?

21:03 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kBo> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

21:03 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam16/IMG_0250.JPG

21:03 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kBp> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

21:03 <Soul_keeper> the bastard don't want to come off

21:05 <Ageless> Glenn's hammer?

21:05 <MTughan> It's glued on?

21:05 <PovAddict> when you have Glenn's hammer, every poblem looks like a nail

21:05 <Rookie_69> Only good for hitting fingers...

21:05 <Rookie_69> Fingernail.

21:06 * PovAddict explodes

21:06 <Ageless> with screwdriver as a leverage

21:06 <wdsmia> take the change in the corner and buy a new one ;)

21:07 <Rookie_69> That's an awfully big cooling fan for in a mouse...

21:07 * PovAddict goes play some game before his head asplodes for real

21:08 <Ageless> aren't there a couple of screws on the underside?

21:09 <Rookie_69> center seems to be flared out?

21:09 <Rookie_69> Drill it out.

21:11 <Rookie_69> Project Hover-Mouse?

21:12 <Ageless> since when does a mouse have a fan?

21:14 <Rookie_69> Uh-oh... large armature next to fan in first picture... Hyper-fan project...

21:15 <Ageless> small feather on the floor gives away the size of this thing

21:16 <Rookie_69> Looks almost messy as my place.

21:16 <Ageless> I've got one of that size hanging from my ceiling

21:16 <Ageless> ah no, it'll be slightly bigger.

21:17 <wdsmia> feather? or fan? lol

21:17 <Ageless> seeing the dust on the fan, both...

21:17 <Rookie_69> Ruby still not allowed out when fan running???

21:19 <Ageless> ok, time for me to say good night. Going to watch one of the two episodes of STTNG , got the other in the VCR (old fashioned one with tapes). Night all.

21:19 <wdsmia> cya

21:19 <Rookie_69> She sheds too many feathers when caught in fan.

21:19 <Rookie_69> Bye.

21:19 *** Ageless has quit IRC

21:20 <wdsmia> She sheds too many feathers when she is know where near the fan

21:20 <Rookie_69> BTW... screwdrivers work better than silverware...

21:21 <Rookie_69> ... and are tastier too.

21:21 <KathrynM_> y'all talk a lot

21:21 * KathrynM_ is back (gone 02:48:59)

21:21 <KathrynM_> hmmm... where did that tail come from?

21:21 <Rookie_69> Thank you.

21:21 *** KathrynM_ is now known as KathrynM

21:22 <PovAddict> http://www.google.co.uk/

21:22 <Romulus> Title: Google (at www.google.co.uk)

21:22 <KathrynM> that's better

21:23 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... Lights were supposed to go out...

21:24 <Rookie_69> Enough of that.

21:25 <wdsmia> Keith must have fallen asleep

21:26 <KathrynM> either that or I show up and everyone stops talking

21:27 <PovAddict> omg

21:27 <PovAddict> Google doesn't index itself!

21:28 <PovAddict> search for the word "search"... the order I see results: Live Search, Altavista, Yahoo Search

21:29 <KathrynM> Google.com has Google 8th

21:29 <KathrynM> lol

21:29 <Keith_Stanley> zzzzzzz....

21:29 <PovAddict> omg it's on the second page

21:30 <KathrynM> lol

21:30 <KathrynM> it's 8th on google.co.kr too

21:31 <Rookie_69> &google google

21:31 <Romulus> Rookie_69: (google google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.

21:31 <Keith_Stanley> OK guys..it's time to take my leave...been good talking.

21:31 <KathrynM> night Keith_Stanley

21:31 <Rookie_69> CU.

21:31 <wdsmia> &nn Keith

21:31 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

21:31 <Keith_Stanley> I'll let you know if I get in touch with Jan..

21:31 <Keith_Stanley> Hi Kath....

21:31 <Rookie_69> Please & thank you.

21:32 <PovAddict> &google google google

21:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: (google google google <search> [--{language,restrict} <value>] [--{notsafe,similar}]) -- Searches google.com for the given string. As many results as can fit are included. --language accepts a language abbreviation; --restrict restricts the results to certain classes of things; --similar tells Google not to filter similar results. --notsafe allows possibly work-unsafe results.

21:32 <Keith_Stanley> Hopefully be on tomorrow....G'night all.

21:32 <PovAddict> &list google

21:32 <Romulus> PovAddict: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats

21:32 *** Keith_Stanley has quit IRC

21:33 <PovAddict> &google fight Einstein@Home Rosetta@Home

21:33 <Romulus> PovAddict: Rosetta@Home: 2310000, Einstein@Home: 2260000

21:33 <PovAddict> pretty close

21:40 <Rookie_69> NN.

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21:55 <Soul_keeper> i'm going to the computer store bbl

21:55 <Tank_Master> hf!

21:56 <KathrynM> time for spring cleaning.

21:56 <KathrynM> I'll be in and out

22:00 <Tank_Master> hiya KM!

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22:00 <MTughan> 'lo mw

22:00 <mweltin> hey

22:01 <Tank_Master> mw!

22:01 <MTughan> How's ACO?

22:01 <mweltin> hey Tank_Master

22:01 <mweltin> I think i found the problem

22:01 <Tank_Master> nice

22:01 <mweltin> the command line arguements get cut off at -i

22:01 <mweltin> i.e. the first space

22:01 <mweltin> not sure hwo to tfix it.

22:01 <mweltin> PovAddict, around?

22:01 <KathrynM> mweltin!

22:01 <mweltin> &seen PieSpyRom

22:01 <Romulus> mweltin: I have not seen PieSpyRom.

22:02 <mweltin> KathrynM, whats up?

22:02 <KathrynM> spring cleaning :(

22:02 <mweltin> I'm busy as all get out.

22:02 <mweltin> hahaahah

22:02 <mweltin> its summer here everyday

22:02 <KathrynM> wanna come clean for me?

22:02 <mweltin> never have to do spring cleaning.

22:02 <mweltin> sure I'll be right there

22:02 <KathrynM> lol

22:02 <mweltin> start some coffee for me.

22:02 <Tank_Master> :P

22:04 <MTughan> Hey, mw... User of the Day on the TSP homepage doesn't seem to be changing.

22:04 <mweltin> and....

22:04 <Tank_Master> LOL

22:04 <mweltin> let me get the ACO working first

22:04 <MTughan> Okay. Makes sense.

22:05 <mweltin> then I'll see about the UOTD

22:05 <KathrynM> mweltin, http://pastebin.ca/961671

22:05 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Something - post number 961671 (at pastebin.ca)

22:05 <KathrynM> for a good laugh

22:05 <Tank_Master> you could always just comment out that part of the page

22:05 <mweltin> I ahve a million things going on right now.  Trying to get some big proposal out the door next week.  I ahve a lot of reserach to do by then.

22:06 <mweltin> KathrynM, wtf was that?

22:06 <Tank_Master> ahh, yeah, $$ and diving come first

22:06 <KathrynM> written by one of my 3rd graders

22:06 <mweltin> no diving and then $$

22:06 <KathrynM> lol

22:07 <Tank_Master> I said AND!

22:07 <mweltin> then the dog, then food water shelter, and my GF she is in the list too.

22:07 <MTughan> Is she looking over your shoulder?

22:07 <Tank_Master> no, the bog, then BOINC, the the GFU

22:07 <Tank_Master> haha

22:07 <mweltin> man I hope she never reads the log from this

22:07 <Tank_Master> :D

22:09 <xcamel> re-hi

22:09 <Tank_Master> howdy xcamel

22:09 <KathrynM> hi xcamel

22:09 * KathrynM goes to sweep

22:09 <Romulus> would help if i like my xo pic

22:09 <KathrynM> This is the only way the cleaning is gonna get done.

22:09 <KathrynM> Clean a bit then come back here.

22:10 <Tank_Master> nice

22:10 <PovAddict> lol @ Romulus talking of the xo pic

22:15 <mweltin> PovAddict, glad you are here, do I need to put single quotes around my command line argument string I pass to create_work?/

22:15 <mweltin> the tasks fail not because they can't download the instance file, but because they can't find it once its called from the wrapper app.

22:16 <mweltin> the wrapper app relies on a -i fileanme

22:16 <mweltin> I pass  a few more switches and the only thing that makes it to the wrapper is the (-i)

22:16 <mweltin> everything after the first space is gone.

22:16 <mweltin> http://bob.myisland.as/tsp_ops/db_action.php?table=result&id=2347943

22:16 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kCI> (at bob.myisland.as)

22:17 <MTughan> Password req'd for there.

22:17 <mweltin> opps

22:17 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/d7cd81e30

22:18 <MTughan> What's the command being sent?

22:18 <PovAddict> show your create_work stuff

22:20 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/d5c930cff

22:21 <PovAddict> and buffer is?

22:21 <mweltin> char *

22:22 <PovAddict> no, show whole line

22:22 <PovAddict> if it's just char* buffer; you're definitely doing it wrong

22:22 <mweltin> well it has memory allocated to it.

22:23 <MTughan> How much?

22:23 <Romulus> Rumor has it How much are you payin' for it, MTughan

22:23 <mweltin> 200+- bytes

22:23 <MTughan> STFU Rommie.

22:28 <mweltin> so what od you think PovAddict add some single quotes?  As i mentioned the -i gets passed, but everything after the first space is gone.

22:29 <PovAddict> yeah but I'm not sure where that gets lost

22:29 <PovAddict> maybe the wrapper doesn't pass it to the worker app

22:29 <PovAddict> maybe it's getting lost way before

22:30 <mweltin> is yoyo around? he uses the wrapper

22:31 <PovAddict> go to the result page on ops

22:31 <PovAddict> pastebin "XML doc in"

22:33 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/d7ab84d8f

22:33 <PovAddict> damn, wrong one... wasn't the result, sorry

22:33 <PovAddict> click on the workunit name

22:33 <PovAddict> pastebin XML doc from the workunit

22:34 <PovAddict> wait

22:34 <PovAddict> sheeesh

22:34 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/d17262b4f

22:34 <PovAddict> where's the flipping command line

22:34 <KathrynM> lol

22:34 <PovAddict> ah shows there

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22:34 <mweltin> that is the workunit xml doc

22:34 *** tamar is now known as BiteAbleKat

22:34 <mweltin> and its all there.

22:34 <PovAddict> well so it did reach the WU

22:34 <PovAddict> I'd blame wrapper

22:34 <MTughan> Let me look that up...

22:35 <PovAddict> look up what?

22:35 <MTughan> How the wrapper passes args.

22:35 <Romulus> good, it's accessible then

22:35 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/trunk/boinc_samples/wrapper/wrapper.C

22:35 <mweltin> well if I run the create work script manually it works.

22:35 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kC_> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

22:35 <MTughan> I have the source here too.

22:35 <PovAddict> mweltin: really?

22:35 <PovAddict> hmm

22:35 <mweltin> yeah

22:36 <PovAddict> search for a workunit created that way

22:36 <PovAddict> the way that works :)

22:36 <PovAddict> and pastebin xml doc

22:36 <mweltin> http://pastebin.com/d4c1781d

22:37 <PovAddict> ....

22:37 <PovAddict> that one works?

22:38 <mweltin> mmmmmmmm I may be wrong in my assumption

22:38 <mweltin> running ../../projects/bob.myisland.as_tsp/acoAlgo_1.7_i686-pc-linux-gnu (-i)

22:38 <mweltin> good workunit shows the same wrapper call with just the (-i)

22:38 <mweltin> this blows

22:39 <MTughan> Nope, the version of the wrapper that I have appends all arguments it seems.

22:40 <MTughan> Wait, there is another place it could be terminated...

22:40 <MTughan> Nvm, it'd have to be bigger than 4KB.

22:41 <mweltin> crap I have to go pick up my GF from the hospital.

22:41 <mweltin> I'll have another go at this later.

22:41 <mweltin> AAAAAARGGGGGGGGg

22:41 <mweltin> take care

22:41 <mweltin> bye

22:41 <KathrynM> bye

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22:41 <Romulus> sambabasse: Could be that savior for our rain but everyone else does :)

22:41 <MTughan> And now my computer illiterate sister needs help...

22:42 <KathrynM> better than computer phobic parents

22:42 <PovAddict> KathrynM++

22:43 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you missed a lot

22:46 <KathrynM> I did?

22:47 <PovAddict> well there's lots of different ideas pulling in different directions...

22:47 <PovAddict> like migrating content from the unofficial BOINC wiki into the official one

22:47 <KathrynM> on that seti thread?

22:47 <PovAddict> or improving unofficial, or starting from scratch, or starting new wikis, blah

22:47 <Romulus> so if i could look again

22:48 <PovAddict> Jord forwarded me something Paul mailed him, not quite matching with Didactylos's plan

22:48 * PovAddict explodes

22:48 <KathrynM> I may take a break once I hit 750K

22:48 <KathrynM> or before that...

22:49 <PovAddict> I personally see no point in stopping BOINCing...

22:49 <KathrynM> meh

22:49 <KathrynM> It's not so much fun anymore

22:49 <PovAddict> if the community becomes a mess, I'll ignore the community and crunch in silence

22:49 <PovAddict> become a "set it and forget it" user

22:49 <PovAddict> doesn't matter how bad the community or the development gets, I won't stop hating idle CPUs!

22:50 * efc just ran "Hello World" in VHDL

22:54 <MTughan> Hehe... My sister just asked what was up with my wallpaper of Scott and Ted from CAD. xD

22:55 <MTughan> This one: http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/wallpapers/scott_unleashed_1920.jpg

22:55 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1JHd> (at www.ctrlaltdel-online.com)

22:58 <PovAddict> &boincerr -200

22:58 <Romulus> PovAddict: wrong size

22:59 <KathrynM> lol

23:00 <PovAddict> KathrynM: Pirates@Home recommends a core client 6.66.0

23:01 <PovAddict> sounds to me like drunk pirates

23:01 <KathrynM> :)

23:03 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

23:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 34.9F / 1.6C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 20s. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Breezy. High in the upper 40s. Southeast wind 15 to 25 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening...then a (1 more message)

23:03 <wdsmia> &more

23:03 <Romulus> wdsmia: chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Not as cool. Low in the upper 30s. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.;

23:04 * KathrynM goes to hang up laundry before it's a wrinkled mess

23:04 <KathrynM> bbiab

23:12 <KathrynM> ok.  laudry done and storage closet organized

23:12 <KathrynM> I need to drink coffee more often :)

23:15 <wdsmia> I'll join you for coffee... in about 8 hours :)

23:15 <KathrynM> :)

23:15 <KathrynM> In 8 Hours if I"m still drinking coffee I'll have major problems

23:16 <wdsmia> but just think how much you would have gotten done

23:16 <KathrynM> lol

23:16 <KathrynM> Any SouthPark fans out there?

23:22 <PovAddict> KathrynM: opinion about UBW...

23:22 <PovAddict> see a few random pages:

23:22 <PovAddict> http://www.boinc-wiki.info/BOINC_Screen_Saver

23:22 <Romulus> Title: BOINC Screen Saver - Unofficial BOINC Wiki (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

23:22 <PovAddict> http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Your_Account_Page_-_Profile_Section

23:22 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kCx> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

23:22 <PovAddict> http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Dial-Up_Connection

23:22 <Romulus> Title: Dial-Up Connection - Unofficial BOINC Wiki (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

23:22 <PovAddict> note the "General" sub-section?

23:23 * PovAddict looks around for an element to hit Romulus with

23:23 <PovAddict> immediately after the page title

23:23 <KathrynM> yeah

23:24 <PovAddict> that is absolutely never in Wikipedia

23:24 <PovAddict> the introduction is before any sub-heading

23:24 <PovAddict> do you think it's a good idea to change it in that way? ie. to match how WP does it

23:25 <KathrynM> lemme look at a WP page right quick

23:26 <PovAddict> it's impressive how about every BOINC message has its own page in UBW

23:26 <PovAddict> even if wrong, even if incomplete

23:26 <KathrynM> yup

23:26 <KathrynM> I used it quite a bit

23:26 <PovAddict> http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Category:BOINC_Message

23:26 <KathrynM> haven't done much trouble shooting stuff lately

23:26 <Romulus> <http://ln-s.net/1kD0> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

23:27 <PovAddict> 312 pages

23:27 <KathrynM> and yeah, doing the wp way might be better

23:29 <PovAddict> I really don't know what to do

23:30 <PovAddict> what seems like better and less work?

23:30 <PovAddict> move useful stuff to http://v6.boinc-wiki.info/ or remove useless stuff from v5? :)

23:30 <Romulus> Title: Main Page - Unofficial BOINC Wiki (at v6.boinc-wiki.info)

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23:31 * old511 is away - L.A.S.F. - Later all Simper Fi - Pager[Off] Log[On]

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23:32 <MTughan> WTF?

23:32 <PovAddict> he quit

23:32 <KathrynM> I think v6 looks better

23:32 <MTughan> Oh, I didn't see he was here before...

23:33 <PovAddict> but v6 is *empty*

23:33 <KathrynM> front page looks better :)

23:33 <PovAddict> I mean, what's less work...

23:33 <PovAddict> cleanup the old, or progressively move the old into the new

23:33 <KathrynM> sometimes starting from scratch is less work

23:33 <KathrynM> as in moving the old into the new

23:33 <KathrynM> and revising as you go along

23:34 <PovAddict> I wouldn't do any major change until I... get through a full planet rotation

23:34 <PovAddict> timezones suck

23:34 <KathrynM> lol

23:34 <PovAddict> I mean I'd first contact Didactylos again, and tell Rytis...

23:34 <PovAddict> and maybe also I should email Chris...

23:34 <PovAddict> http://www.boincwiki.info/

23:35 <PovAddict> I asked Rytis if they owned that domain too, and why it wasn't working

23:35 <PovAddict> answers were:

23:35 <PovAddict> - domains are technically owned by Eric Myers

23:35 <MTughan> Did you know that Didactylos is the head of the UserFriendly.org team at WCG?

23:35 <PovAddict> MTughan: no, I thought he was just a member... and part of WCG admins

23:36 <MTughan> Is that supposed to be sarcastic, or was it truthful?

23:36 <PovAddict> I didn't know he was the team founder

23:36 <MTughan> Ah, okay... Yeah, he is.

23:37 <PovAddict> and as for why the domain doesn't take to the wiki

23:37 <PovAddict> "because Chris is an idiot"

23:38 <KathrynM> oye

23:38 <MTughan> lol

23:38 <PovAddict> "he's playing with his server's config too much, breaking stuff all the time"

23:38 <Romulus> This is only a tiny little quake down in the app with a large trout

23:38 <PovAddict> (Christopher Malton that is)

23:39 <PovAddict> and in other news, tomorrow it's Rytis's birthday

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23:39 <KathrynM> I saw on Facebook

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