IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-03-29

00:00 <PovAddict> KathrynM: a scary measure of how much BOINC sucks is the amount of jinx's I had when talking to Didactylos

00:00 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:00 <PovAddict> WHAT DID I SAY

00:01 <MTughan> jinx

00:01 <MTughan> Nope...

00:02 <MTughan> suck?

00:02 <MTughan> sucks

00:02 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:02 <MTughan> That.

00:05 <PovAddict> [17:40] <PovAddict> BOINC gives no power to addons

00:05 <PovAddict> [17:41] <PovAddict> undocumented and sucky protocols, no way to tinker with scheduler... *how* can it be an addon?

00:05 <PovAddict> [17:41] <Didactylos> Did I mention how much the GUI RPCs suck?

00:05 <PovAddict> there's one

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00:21 <MTughan> &web title

00:21 <Romulus> MTughan: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error

00:21 <MTughan> So it's not just me...

00:27 <KathrynM> mweltin!

00:29 <mweltin> hey

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00:50 <Tank_Master> how was the trip to the geekporn shop, Soul_keeper?

00:53 <Wabbit67> geek porn?

00:56 <Soul_keeper> bought 2 overpriced fans

00:56 <Soul_keeper> 20 bucks a pop

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01:31 <KathrynM> Operation bathroom cleaning is complete :)

01:31 <Wabbit67> now time for Operation Make Bathroom Messy Again

01:32 <Romulus> another reason to renew my contract here... if I could send the debugger to work on... 41 questions due Friday.

01:32 <KathrynM> lol

01:33 <KathrynM> I need to go out and buy a mop so I can mop the floor

01:33 <KathrynM> I never knew a little studio apartment could get so dirty

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01:42 <BiteAbleKat> next you can help me finish packing

01:47 <KathrynM> I'll pass

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01:58 <Tank_Master> lol

02:04 <BiteAbleKat> im watching a movie called on the beach, based on nevil shute's nuclear-doomsday novel with gregory peck and ava gardner

02:04 <Romulus> prefs on manager are ok

02:04 * BiteAbleKat eyes romulus warily

02:05 * Tank_Master doesnt even want to know

02:05 <BiteAbleKat> this movie was made in 1959

02:05 <BiteAbleKat> its so hot

02:06 <Wabbit> Gregory Peck is steamy I bet

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02:07 <BiteAbleKat> so hot, so is ava

02:07 <BiteAbleKat> classy dress on both parts

02:08 <Wabbit98> is Peck not wearing a shirt?

02:08 <BiteAbleKat> in some scenes, in others he has a hot sailor uniform on

02:08 <Tank_Master> shirts only get in the way

02:09 <Wabbit98> Ava needs to take it off

02:09 <BiteAbleKat> she also could use a bit of shaping on her brows

02:09 <BiteAbleKat> she is a boozer in this flic

02:09 <BiteAbleKat> but a classy dresser

02:10 <Wabbit98> so no topless scenes?

02:11 <BiteAbleKat> uh uh

02:11 <BiteAbleKat> lol

02:11 <Tank_Master> bummer

02:11 <Tank_Master> anywho, apparently it is time for me to head to bed

02:11 <Tank_Master> my mouse just died

02:12 <Tank_Master> so Ill let it recharg as I am recharging

02:12 <BiteAbleKat> i packed the pc with the mouse tonight

02:12 <BiteAbleKat> The Beast

02:12 <BiteAbleKat> lol

02:12 <BiteAbleKat> they light up everywhere in this movie

02:12 <BiteAbleKat> have a good one tank master

02:13 <Tank_Master> you to

02:15 <KathrynM> night

02:15 <BiteAbleKat>

02:15 <Romulus> <> (at

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05:09 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 31.6°F / -0.2°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the lower 40s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 (1 more message)

05:09 <CoderForLife> &more

05:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Sunday - Showers likely. A chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

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05:15 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:36 <CoderForLife> b

05:37 <KathrynM> do you sleep?

05:38 <CoderForLife> not often or well

05:38 <KathrynM> that I understand

05:38 <CoderForLife> especially when I'm Coding

05:39 <KathrynM> the flow

05:39 <CoderForLife> I have *objectives*, *goals*, *milestones* ...

05:39 <KathrynM> kinda like my spring cleaning :)

05:39 <CoderForLife> I Code while sleeping, might as well get up and get it into the computer

05:40 <KathrynM> I used to dream about the research I was doing.

05:40 <KathrynM> I would have to get up and write ideas down or they'd be gone in the morning

05:40 <CoderForLife> then I also have the naysayers that say it can't be done, shouldn't be done, that I have to disprove

05:40 <CoderForLife> you see, I'm doomed

05:41 <KathrynM> yup

05:41 <CoderForLife> that's while I'm CoderForLife - an advocation and a death sentence

05:41 <CoderForLife> why*

05:43 * CoderForLife stares out the window into the inky beyond

05:44 * KathrynM stares at the laundry hanging all around the apartment

05:47 * Tank_Master takes a moment to see how the clasps work

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06:07 * Tank_Master heads back to bed

06:14 <CoderForLife> off to the store - bbl

08:06 <CoderForLife> re-hi

08:06 <CoderForLife> &quiet

08:06 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

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08:10 <xcamel> 'lo

08:12 <CoderForLife> morning

08:14 <xcamel> 'lo Don

08:18 <CoderForLife> 32F this morning, ice in various places between here and the store

08:25 <xcamel> 22 here..

08:34 <KathrynM> I'm off to watch a move.

08:34 <KathrynM> *movie

08:34 <KathrynM> laterz

08:34 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

08:42 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 21.8°F / -5.7°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 15. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph...decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. North (1 more message)

08:43 <xcamel> &more

08:43 <Romulus> xcamel: winds around 5 mph...becoming northeast in the afternoon.;

08:53 <xcamel> check the google home page..

08:53 <xcamel> global dubming taking over the world..

08:54 <xcamel> er make that 'global dumbing'

08:56 <CoderForLife> looking

08:57 <CoderForLife> how stupid

08:57 <xcamel> ya think?

08:57 <CoderForLife> I do, they don't

08:59 <CoderForLife> the power companies will have to leave all the capacity online, but throttled back, so they have it when the lights come back on

08:59 <xcamel> most GW believers can't think past the end of their nose.

09:00 <CoderForLife> like all the college students in a college town flushing the toilets at the same time drains the water towers

09:01 <CoderForLife> I hope people don't die when the demand snaps back and the power companies can't respond to the instantanous demand

09:01 <CoderForLife> Scrooge: "Better they die and decrease the surplus carbon emissions"

09:02 <DerMeister> We had something like this here in germany last year... No problems, though...

09:05 <xcamel> A classic:

09:05 <xcamel>

09:05 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 March 29 - Spiral Galaxy NGC 2841 (at

09:09 <xcamel> as for the GW cult - those of us who have been trained to think critically are being branded 'deniers' which in the vernacular really means 'Heretics!"

09:10 <CoderForLife> you unwashed carbon emitter, you

09:10 <CoderForLife> The Prophet Al branded you equivalent to a flat-earther

09:12 <DerMeister>

09:12 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at

09:12 <CoderForLife> Mars is warming - Bush's fault

09:13 <xcamel> the definitive 27-part primer on GW from "The national Post" starts here:

09:13 <xcamel>

09:13 <Romulus> <> (at

09:14 <xcamel> extremely well researched.

09:19 <xcamel> remind me to mention to Doug that we found a great parrot treat that Ruby/Gregor will likely love...

09:22 <CoderForLife> I'll try

09:22 <CoderForLife> for now - time to do some Saturday chores

09:22 <CoderForLife> bbl

09:24 <xcamel> interesting:,143962-c,hackers/article.html

09:24 <Romulus> <> (at

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09:27 <xcamel> DerMeister: where in Germany are you?

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09:54 <xcamel> bbl..

10:21 <MTughan> rofl... The SACCWG just came looking for music piracy, and now it's come to this:

10:21 <Romulus> <> (at

10:22 <MTughan> SACCWG -> Strategic Alliance Cyber Crime Working Group

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10:27 <Ageless> anyone awake?

10:27 <MTughan> Kinda.

10:28 <Ageless> anyone with knowledge on Seti specifics? I'm trying to figure out how big the background picture for the screen saver may be at maximum in pixels and KB

10:28 <Romulus> what are you using create_work script in the US, which would also work

10:29 * CoderForLife sits in a zombie-like trance

10:29 <MTughan> STFU Rommie

10:29 <Ageless> there was a link to it somewhere in a far far dusty past

10:29 <Ageless> I can't find it anymore. So I come to the wisdom pool

10:29 <Ageless> ;)

10:29 <MTughan> Heh...

10:36 <CoderForLife> you're in the shallow end of the pool

10:37 * CoderForLife kicks some water toward Michael

10:37 <MTughan> I don't romp in pools.

10:38 <CoderForLife> I just dangle my feet in

10:43 <Ageless> afraid you'll melt?

10:43 <Ageless> or get clean? which may be worse...

10:44 <MTughan> No, I'm just not enthused by water.

10:44 <MTughan> Does anyone know if menus on Windows can have separators?

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11:02 <IRCFrEAK> hello i have a problm on the mac version

11:03 <MTughan> Shoot away...

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11:07 <xcamel> Mike - I have seen menu separators in windows.. (horiz)

11:08 <xcamel> but it's rare..

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11:08 <MTughan> All right...

11:08 <xcamel> 'lo Keith

11:08 <Keith> Now then..

11:09 <xcamel> Then first, Now later.

11:09 <Keith> :)

11:09 <Keith> Just been speaking with Jan...

11:10 <CoderForLife> Ooo and...

11:10 <xcamel> how is she doing?

11:10 <Keith> She's fine...but her machines are starting to fall apart at the seams..

11:11 <Romulus> well that's just them being safe. There's rarely bugs in them.

11:11 <xcamel> Oh good, and not so good...

11:11 <Keith> She's still crunching for Malaria and Climate Prediction...

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11:11 <xcamel> we need to get her back on line at some point...

11:11 <Keith> But the death of Dogbytes has hit her hard.

11:12 <CoderForLife> has she forgotten how to IRC?

11:12 <xcamel> I'm sure it did

11:12 <Ageless> probably not wise to do CPDN on a machine that falls apart. Global warming?

11:12 <xcamel> 'lo Jord

11:12 <Keith> I asked her about coming back on line...she's not ready yet.

11:12 <CoderForLife> hmm

11:12 <xcamel> Tell here Dana has been back on - that's will cheer her up...

11:12 <CoderForLife> right

11:12 <Keith> But I passed on all your good wishes...

11:12 <xcamel> thanks..

11:13 <CoderForLife> good

11:13 <Ageless> send her a relief package.

11:13 <Keith> :)

11:14 <CoderForLife> &seen Spit_theDog

11:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 45 weeks, 3 days, 4 hours, 45 minutes, and 19 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

11:14 <xcamel> ..send here a really good looking computer tech

11:15 <Keith> WE actually did have a good chuckle in the end..talking about the time Dennis..who tried to fix one of her machines that was running a little the time Dennis had finished with was running even hotter  :)

11:15 <Ageless> ...with a new Dell

11:15 <xcamel> er 'her' even

11:15 <CoderForLife> maybe we can get ELGono to do a return visit

11:16 <CoderForLife> Dennis had her drilling the case fans to lubricate the bearings, iirc

11:16 <Ageless> brb... temp off to the store now it's still open

11:16 <Keith> Yep..that's our Dennis...

11:16 <xcamel> indeed..

11:16 <CoderForLife> Spit sat here and told me that - I just looked at her and blinked

11:17 * xcamel is reminded to get the vacuum and hit these fans...

11:17 <Keith> If all goes well I'll be meeting up with Jan sometime between now and July.

11:17 <CoderForLife> excellent

11:17 <xcamel> does she still do email...

11:18 <CoderForLife> hasn't answered mine

11:18 <CoderForLife> I don't know that she's answered Paul's either

11:18 <xcamel> mine either..

11:19 <CoderForLife> thanks for reaching out to her, Keith

11:19 <Keith> She does when she remembers...she did say she's struggling to remember the most basic of things though.

11:19 <Keith> It's the least I could do..

11:20 <CoderForLife> Our boinc family stretches to all corners of the globe - it's hard to just "stop by"

11:21 <CoderForLife> lunchtime - I'll bbl

11:21 * CoderForLife says "xyzzy" and disappears

11:21 <Keith> Gotta zoom off now...but I'll see you guys later on.... TTFN

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11:31 <xcamel> yea... Dyson power...

11:32 <xcamel> bbiab

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11:52 <xcamel> whoo hoo - all the way up to 25F

11:55 <Ageless> 15C

11:57 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

11:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 43.7°F / 6.5°C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 9.6mph / 15.4km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. High in the upper 40s. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the evening...then a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms after midnight. (2 more messages)

11:57 <wdsmia> &more

11:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: Low in the upper 30s. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph decreasing to 5 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy. A chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then showers likely and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the upper 40s. Southeast wind near 5 mph shifting to the northeast in the afternoon. Chance of (1 more message)

11:57 <wdsmia> &more

11:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: precipitation 60 percent.;

11:59 <xcamel> 'lo Doug..

11:59 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

11:59 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

11:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 37.2°F / 2.9°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Rain and snow showers. A slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce small hail in the afternoon. Snow level 500 feet rising to 1000 feet in the afternoon. Snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches (2 more messages)

11:59 <Tank_Master> &more

11:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: mainly above 700 feet. Highs around 45. Southwest wind 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. A slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening. Snow level 1000 feet. Lows 30 to 35. Southwest wind 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Snow level 500 feet in the morning. Highs around 50. West wind 10 mph.; Snow Advisory for Washington County in effect until 12:00 (1 more message)

11:59 <Tank_Master> &more

11:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: PM PDT on March 29, 2008;

12:00 <xcamel> Hey.. found some treats that Stormy really loves - Ruby and Gregor might really like them too..

12:01 <Ageless> you guys are way too busy with the weather from behind your keyboard. Why not go out the door? If you get wet, it rains. If you get icicles, it freezes, if you get hit by a snowball, the kid next door threw one and if you start to sweat, the sun is out.

12:02 <xcamel> brilliant sun, but your sweat would freeze...

12:02 <wdsmia> Gregor loves anything with the word treat in it

12:03 <xcamel> "Twice Bites" by ecotrition

12:05 <xcamel> not terribly expensive either..

12:08 <wdsmia> how much fat content?

12:11 <xcamel> crude fat 4%

12:13 <wdsmia> that should work for Ruby... have to watch fat and salt in her diet

12:14 <xcamel> salt is very low too.. they make a special one for fruit birds also

12:15 <xcamel> just checking their product line - they make allot of good stuff.

12:15 <wdsmia> will have to try some... thanks

12:16 <xcamel> I mention it because Stormy hates most "off the shelf" treats - these he begs for...

12:17 <wdsmia> Ruby's fav is Nutri-berries with pinapple, papaya and mango

12:18 <xcamel> stormy won't eat them.

12:18 <xcamel> well.. out to see if I can fix the quad..

12:19 <wdsmia> yea guess I should try to do alittle yard work

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13:17 * Rookie_69 thinks about doing some housework... but not very hard.

13:18 * Rookie_69 went out and bought some luxuries this morning... clothing and footwear.

13:22 * Rookie_69 thinks he doesn't pick up often enough as he bags a boxing week blowout flyer.

13:24 * Rookie_69 slaps himself around a bit with a large... cod.

13:24 * Ageless slaps Glenn on the shoulder

13:25 <Rookie_69> Ow!

13:26 <Rookie_69> I'm only about two years behind in my housekeeping...

13:29 <Ageless> get a maid

13:29 <Ageless> a philipino of course... cute and probably good in bed. ;)

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13:32 <Rookie_69> Closest I could afford would be FreeLarry... If that's his going rate as well as his name.

13:34 <MTughan> Great... We've got a house full of teenage girls for the day... >_>

13:35 <MTughan> Giggly teenage girls...

13:35 <Ageless> are you giggly material?

13:36 <MTughan> Not really.

13:37 * Rookie_69 thinks about moving to Ontario again...

13:38 * Rookie_69 doesn't want to think about giggly teens and the charges that follow... or the brothers, fathers, etc...

13:39 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

13:39 <MTughan> 'lo yoyo

13:39 <yoyo[RKN]> is there a C function to replace characters in a string?

13:40 <MTughan> Strings are just char[] in C. Just replace the char you want.

13:41 * Rookie_69 wonders why 2000 tax forms haven't been shredded already... then remembers that he's lazy.

13:41 <yoyo[RKN]> with a for loop to check every character. I thought there would be a function to replace e.g "a" and "c" with "_"

13:42 <yoyo[RKN]> in unix I can use tr [ac] [_]

13:42 <MTughan> I don't see one.

13:42 <MTughan> Unix isn't compiled. It's interpreted.

13:42 <MTughan> Anyway, you can use strlen to get the length of the string, then loop over it.

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13:53 <desti>

13:53 <Romulus> Title: Atom-smasher fears spark lawsuit - Science- (at

13:58 <Rookie_69> If someone creates a black hole within the earth, do you think we're going to be around long enough to complain about it?

14:00 <desti> that's a good question

14:01 <Rookie_69> "Oh, Thank God." says the human dipstick as Kostner drops a flare down into the hold of the Exxon Valdez...

14:01 <Rookie_69> ... Costner?..

14:01 <Rookie_69> Where's that tape?

14:01 <Romulus> so would get way too much

14:02 <Rookie_69> Robin Hood found first... Costner it is.

14:04 <Rookie_69> Waterworld was a lot better movie than the world made it out to be.

14:05 <Rookie_69> ... but we were talking about LHC...

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14:08 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

14:08 <Rookie_69> ... as long as Eddie doesn't come along and hear what we're saying about him...

14:08 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay. Quad all better?

14:08 <efc> Moo

14:08 <xcamel> seems so

14:09 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

14:10 <efc> Got my first little bit of VHDL working last night, only 50,000 lines to go

14:10 <xcamel> you wouldn't think at 29F that the solar gain right now is 760 w/m2

14:11 <xcamel> damn brilliant out

14:11 <xcamel> ie: snowblind

14:12 <Rookie_69> Sun is slowly climbimg higher each day.

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14:13 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]:

14:13 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Unnamed - post number 962341 (at

14:14 <Rookie_69> 40F here with sun occasionally peeking out.

14:15 <xcamel>

14:15 <Romulus> <> (at

14:15 <xcamel> TSA Responds to Nipple Ring Complaint...

14:16 <xcamel> sad/funny/true

14:17 <yoyo[RKN]> thx PovAddict

14:18 * efc believes the human body came with all the holes it needed from the OEM

14:18 <xcamel> btw - news about spit...

14:18 <xcamel> She's doing well

14:18 <xcamel> just not ready to be on line yet

14:18 <xcamel> still smarting over Dennis

14:19 <xcamel> Keith talked to here... and sends all out best.

14:19 <xcamel> -out ++our

14:22 <Rookie_69> All-out best is good too.

14:24 <wdsmia> 500K@LHC :)

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14:30 <PovAddict> hi Didactylos :)

14:30 <Didactylos> Hi.

14:30 <PovAddict> oh great, UBW down...

14:31 <PovAddict> awesome timing

14:31 <Didactylos> So it is.

14:39 <CoderForLife> re-hi

14:40 <wdsmia> *lo Don

14:40 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

14:40 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

14:40 <CoderForLife> did xcamel tell you what he asked me to remember, wdsmia?

14:40 <CoderForLife> hello Glenn

14:41 <wdsmia> ?

14:41 <CoderForLife> 09:21] xcamel: remind me to mention to Doug that we found a great parrot treat that Ruby/Gregor will likely love...

14:42 <xcamel> yup... took care of it..

14:42 <CoderForLife> ok =)

14:43 <CoderForLife> jes doin' my little bit

14:43 <xcamel> thanks..

14:43 * wdsmia is still trying to figure out why Gregor would like bird treats

14:43 <Rookie_69> ... and a piece of cardboard with "treat" written on it works for Gregor...

14:43 <xcamel> lol

14:44 <Rookie_69> ... maybe not the exact words...

14:44 * CoderForLife is running Code timing tests

14:45 <CoderForLife> yup - it takes time

14:45 * Rookie_69 is running procrastination tests.

14:45 <PovAddict> succeeding? :)

14:45 <Rookie_69> We'll see...

14:46 <Rookie_69> ...Later.

14:46 <CoderForLife> ask him tomorrow

14:46 * wdsmia is putting off running the procrastination test

14:46 <Rookie_69> Lol.

14:47 * PovAddict should go Code

14:47 <CoderForLife> \o/

14:47 <PovAddict> why do all programmers suffer Attention Deficit Disorder?

14:48 <DerMeister> Do they?

14:48 <CoderForLife> because they are all senstive and intelligent

14:48 <Rookie_69> Sorry... what was that?

14:48 <DerMeister> I think I don't... Maybe except when it comes down to using java...

14:48 <PovAddict> well, it's just sometimes-- ohh shiny thing

14:49 <PovAddict> :P

14:49 * CoderForLife intelligently senses a set-up

14:49 <wdsmia> Pov has been hanging around Rommie way to much

14:49 * PovAddict checks for updates on his iPod

14:50 <PovAddict> wdsmia: you might be right

14:50 <quail> hey b1tches I am back!

14:50 <quail> what been happenining, what have I missed?

14:50 * CoderForLife runs for cover

14:50 <PovAddict> quail: more flamewar @ SETI? :)

14:51 * quail drags CoderForLife back by the scruff of the neck

14:51 * quail says CoderForLife hiya mate

14:51 * xcamel munches on ritz bitz with pb

14:51 <xcamel> 'lo Q

14:52 <quail> hiya Jay, Don, Paul, PovAddict and all

14:52 <quail> damn winter hitting in here fast

14:53 <xcamel> winter won't go away here...

14:53 <xcamel> feel free to check the cameras..

14:53 <PovAddict> cool, the new version of Pianist for the iPod works without hacking symlinks... :)

14:54 <quail> xcamel: I have been here and the when I have had internet access

14:54 <quail> xcamel: I only got home on friday

14:55 * quail been bushing it for last couple weeks on yorkies

14:55 <CoderForLife> bbiab

14:55 * PovAddict notes playing with Pianist is terrible for his iPod screen... more fingerprints than usual

14:55 <quail> and it been great to get away :-)

14:56 * quail drags CoderForLife back by the scruff of the neck

14:56 <Rookie_69> [IMG][/IMG] Jay... Is this a Ladybug or a carpet beetle?

14:56 <Rookie_69> Darn.

14:57 <Rookie_69>

14:57 <Romulus> <> (at

15:00 <quail> ho hum that was strange

15:01 <Rookie_69> Difficult to get a picture because it insisted on walking around that stupid globe faster than I could focus.

15:02 <PovAddict> what did I say about ADD

15:03 <Romulus> and now I know nothing about ACO

15:03 * PovAddict stops playing with his ipod

15:04 * Rookie_69 thinks PovAddict shouldn't play with his... Oh... Ipod...

15:04 <PovAddict> ...

15:04 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

15:05 * Soul_keeper just got home

15:06 * Rookie_69 doesn't really know where "home" is anymore...

15:06 * Rookie_69 thinks maybe it's parked in the driveway.

15:08 * quail guess CoderForLife does not want to ere about my adventures

15:09 <quail> I have spent the last week and bit in PNG

15:10 <xcamel> there - new version of Active webcam gets mad at boinc for using too much cpu time

15:11 <PovAddict> that's some snow :)

15:11 <Rookie_69> Skype got mad at my stereo for playing in the background too...

15:12 <quail> xcamel: try lack of oxy

15:12 <PovAddict> old xcamel had a farm, eieio...

15:13 <quail> he got a ski field atm

15:13 <quail> :-P

15:13 <PovAddict> lol

15:16 <quail> damn it so good to be home

15:17 <Ageless> so the first thing you do when you get home and it's 8pm is turn off all the lights.

15:17 <xcamel> har har har...

15:17 <quail> not good coming to faulty hardware tho

15:17 * Ageless just checked in the street. No one knows it's Earth Hour at our hour. So why should I turn off my lights then.

15:17 <xcamel> I would seriously like it to all go away now..

15:17 <quail> give me right audio channel

15:18 <xcamel> no, no, no, Jord... turn all your lights ON!

15:18 <PovAddict> ...

15:18 <Ageless> ah... see I am sure they said off.

15:18 <quail> turn them *OFF*

15:18 <xcamel> inclufing carbon arc, searchlights, and lasers...

15:18 <Ageless> on they are as else I trip over the flurries who roam free in the living room

15:20 <xcamel> Turn them on -- I want my global warming...

15:21 <Ageless> perhaps all you need is a woman to keep you warm.

15:21 <Rookie_69> I don't care about global warming... as long as it gets warm here.

15:21 <Ageless> on your camel hair couch-bed.

15:21 <xcamel> after being married for 27 years?

15:21 <quail> can't you live from lighting from your pc monitor

15:21 <Ageless> sure.. why not?

15:21 <PovAddict> Ageless: poor camel

15:21 <Romulus> none of the data?

15:21 <Rookie_69> K is a woman...

15:22 <xcamel> Trust me - more people die of global cold than global hot.

15:22 <Ageless> tell them that in Africa

15:22 <xcamel> that's called poverty

15:22 <PovAddict> that's called Sun

15:23 <quail> Ageless: my trip to PNG has taught me alot

15:23 <Ageless> LOL

15:23 <xcamel> png?

15:23 <PovAddict> ...and poverty which means they have nowhere to hide from the sun

15:23 <Soul_keeper> hmmm my new fans dropped my temps considerably

15:23 <quail> PNG = papa new guini

15:23 <xcamel> cool place

15:24 <quail> my spelling bad

15:24 <xcamel> but also hot

15:24 <Soul_keeper> cpu temp down 5c, northbridge down 3c, psu down 10c

15:24 <xcamel> AJH HAH! - global warming == more topless women!

15:24 <Soul_keeper> :)

15:24 <xcamel> what could be wrong with that?

15:24 <Ageless> said he who was married for 27 years...

15:25 <xcamel> I said married... not dead.

15:25 <PovAddict> "...the Internet is for porn..."

15:25 <xcamel> so sayith Bender.

15:27 <Ageless> that killed the conversation.

15:27 <quail> xcamel: I have been there for a week and bit doing computer stuff for a hospital in Goroka

15:27 <xcamel> great work if you can get it..

15:28 <xcamel> and the beaches?

15:28 <PovAddict> looks like Eclipse decided my C++ project is not C++ anymore, and won't let me do anything with it

15:28 <quail> Goroka in the hills

15:29 <xcamel> hmmm...

15:29 <quail> xcamel:

15:29 <Romulus> Title: Goroka - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

15:29 <xcamel> bbiab...

15:30 <CoderForLife> wrong quail - I do - but I am involved in a project with my son ATM - I'll talk later =)

15:30 <CoderForLife> again, bbiab

15:31 <quail> CoderForLife: np ttyl

15:35 <IRCFrEAK> some promble on macos w

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16:08 <quail> CoderForLife: ping

16:08 <Tank_Master> quail: pong

16:09 <quail> huh?

16:09 <Tank_Master> lol

16:10 <quail> Tank_Master: CoderForLife was after me ~week ago

16:10 <Tank_Master> ahh

16:10 * efc wonders what keeps thumping upstairs

16:10 <efc> &weather 30625

16:10 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 68% | Pressure: 30.13in / 1020hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Showers likely. Lows around 50. Northeast winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers (1 more message)

16:10 <quail> efc: it me and my music

16:11 <efc> Knock it off man!

16:11 <Tank_Master> &more damnit

16:11 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: I haven't seen damnit.

16:11 <efc> &more

16:11 <Romulus> efc: in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

16:11 <PovAddict> &more you

16:11 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I haven't seen you.

16:11 <Tank_Master> &more shit

16:11 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: I haven't seen shit.

16:11 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:11 <efc> There's never anything interesting in the second bit for me

16:12 <quail> I want to go back to PNG

16:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

16:12 <Tank_Master> heh

16:12 <Tank_Master> doh

16:12 * Tank_Master goes into his corner again

16:12 <quail> doug get off your high hourse

16:12 <Tank_Master> :P

16:13 <quail> hey I can recommend PNG to go to

16:14 <quail> I have spent the last week and abit there

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16:17 *** wdsmia sets mode: +o Rookie_69

16:17 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o Rookie_69

16:17 <Tank_Master> o.O?

16:17 <Tank_Master> lol

16:17 <Rookie_69> Feel the POWER!

16:17 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

16:18 <Tank_Master> feel corrupted yet?

16:18 <efc> If power corrupts, them impotence purifies

16:19 <Rookie_69> If I'm going to be impotent, I'm going to look impotent!

16:19 <PovAddict> Didactylos: did you see tickets 580-582?

16:23 <Didactylos> Looking now.

16:23 <Rookie_69> ... speeding tickets?

16:24 <PovAddict> reported BOINC bugs/feature requests

16:24 <Didactylos> Wow, CAPITAL LETTERS AND A PHONE NUMBER!!!!!

16:25 <PovAddict> Didactylos: look at the original ticket titles :)

16:25 <Didactylos> Heh.

16:25 <CoderForLife> unping

16:25 <PovAddict> this guy clearly has no idea How to Request a Feature the Smart Way

16:26 <CoderForLife> decided not to use an existing box for a media center PC - looked at buying one - now looking at building one - bbl

16:26 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: will it BOINC?

16:27 <CoderForLife> certainly, but it can't interfere with recording favorite TV programs

16:27 <Didactylos> Think most of them can be closed as duplicates?

16:27 <CoderForLife> boinc during non-prime time

16:28 <CoderForLife> bbl

16:28 <quail> CoderForLife: come back!

16:28 <PovAddict> lol you keep missing him

16:29 <quail> CoderForLife: I'll ring you again

16:29 <Rookie_69> Maybe CFL is trying to keep his house from sliding into a ravine?

16:29 <quail> last call was 2.5 min waste

16:30 <CoderForLife> not now

16:30 <CoderForLife> no time to talk ATM

16:30 <Rookie_69> CFL is maybe busy doing husbandly chores?

16:31 <Rookie_69> More likely.

16:31 *** CoderForLife has quit IRC

16:34 <quail> hmmm wish he said earlier than me making fool myself

16:36 <quail> CoderForLife: ring me this time :-)

16:36 <wdsmia> stupid is as stupid does... Forest Gump

16:36 <PovAddict> quail: he quit #boinc

16:36 <quail> :-(

16:37 <quail> someone pass the msg on for me then

16:37 <quail> please

16:37 <Rookie_69>

16:37 <PovAddict> just wait for him to stop being busy and rejoin

16:37 <Rookie_69> He can read it if he wants to.

16:37 <wdsmia>

16:37 <Romulus> <> (at

16:38 <PovAddict> why is everyone around me

16:38 <wdsmia> pivot man?

16:38 <quail> PovAddict: I am not, you smell :-P

16:39 <PovAddict> now you are

16:39 <quail> PovAddict: j/k

16:40 <Tank_Master> what does "Kein Event gefunden

16:40 <Tank_Master> what does "Kein Event gefunden" meen?

16:40 <Tank_Master> stupid cutn n paste

16:41 <Rookie_69> & babelfish Kein Event gefunden

16:41 <Romulus> I don't have a clue, Rookie_69.

16:41 <Tank_Master> its german

16:41 <Rookie_69> Nothing, apparently.

16:41 <PovAddict> &help translate

16:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: That command exists in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.

16:41 <PovAddict> &help babelfish translate

16:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: (babelfish translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.

16:41 <PovAddict> &babelfish translate de en Kein Event gefunden

16:41 <Romulus> PovAddict: No Event found

16:42 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

16:42 <Tank_Master> strang error message

16:42 <Tank_Master> strange*

16:42 <Romulus> when you use new, you have 50 identical machines how do I need to do about that, any suggestions PovAddict ? anyone?

16:43 <Rookie_69> Aparently, Natural Event...

16:45 * quail slaps Tank_Master

16:46 * Tank_Master bitch slaps quail

16:47 * Rookie_69 bitch-slaps Tank_Master.

16:47 * quail bastard slaps Tank_Master back

16:47 <quail> :-P

16:47 * Tank_Master slaps Rookie_69 with a bitch

16:48 * Rookie_69 takes bitch and does her.

16:48 <quail> hehe

16:48 <PovAddict> ahem

16:48 * Tank_Master slaps quail with man-whore

16:48 * PovAddict looks at wdsmia

16:48 <Tank_Master> LOL

16:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

16:48 <Tank_Master> wdsmia! They are picking on me!

16:49 * quail flicks bit of shit at Tank_Master

16:49 <Rookie_69> =.=mode...

16:49 * Tank_Master doges and it hits wdsmia instead

16:49 <PovAddict> wdsmia is thinking who to start with

16:49 * Tank_Master runs

16:49 <quail> bye

16:49 * Tank_Master hides in the corner

16:50 * quail points =>

16:50 * wdsmia wonder how many will fit on sh$% list

16:50 * PovAddict waits for wdsmia to do something

16:50 *** chupacabra has quit IRC

16:51 * quail sees wdsmia sitting there cacking hiself

16:51 <PovAddict> what if a poor boinc user comes here asking for help

16:51 <quail> PovAddict: who doe?

16:51 <Rookie_69> Too bad...

16:51 <quail> does

16:51 <PovAddict> and you're hitting each other with bitches

16:52 <quail> and shit

16:52 <wdsmia> asks quail to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:52 * Rookie_69 likes to be hit upon by bitches.

16:52 * PovAddict sets some ignore rules

16:52 <quail> wdsmia: add bitches to your list please

16:52 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o quail

16:52 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001

16:52 *** quail was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist (Anti-Autojoin 2sec Ban))

16:52 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001

16:52 <Rookie_69> slash ignore evertbody.

16:52 <Rookie_69> ?

16:53 <Rookie_69> everybody.

16:54 <Didactylos> I hear channel #0 is the place to be..... ;-)

16:55 <PovAddict> so do we just /join 0?

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o PovAddict

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*=PovAddic@200.127.223.*

16:55 *** PovAddict was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist (Anti-Autojoin 2sec Ban))

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*=PovAddic@200.127.223.*

16:55 <Rookie_69> Green Acres is the place to be...

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16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o PovAddict

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*=PovAddic@200.127.223.*

16:55 *** PovAddict was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist (Anti-Autojoin 2sec Ban))

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*=PovAddic@200.127.223.*

16:55 *** PovAddict has joined #boinc

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o PovAddict

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*=PovAddic@200.127.223.*

16:55 *** PovAddict was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist (Anti-Autojoin 2sec Ban))

16:55 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*=PovAddic@200.127.223.*

16:57 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

16:58 *** blah has joined #boinc

16:58 <Rookie_69> Blah-blah.

16:58 <wdsmia> lol

16:59 <Rookie_69> Blah is now known as POV???

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17:00 <Tank_Master> wow

17:00 <Tank_Master> gone for 2 min and lots of green

17:01 <wdsmia> you were on the list also... so you timed it just right lol

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17:02 *** blah has quit IRC

17:02 <wdsmia> Its ok pov you can come out from hiding now

17:03 * Rookie_69 slaps PovAddict around a bit with a large Blah.

17:04 * Rookie_69 slaps Doug around a bit with a large superiority complex.

17:04 <Tank_Master> his or yours?

17:04 <wdsmia> lol

17:05 <Rookie_69> Decisions, decisions...

17:05 <Rookie_69> I don't know!!!

17:06 * Rookie_69 wants to be on WDSMIA's shit-list.

17:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

17:06 <wdsmia> done ;)

17:06 <Rookie_69> Loo.

17:06 <Tank_Master> sheesh

17:06 <Rookie_69> ?

17:06 <Rookie_69> Lol.

17:07 <Rookie_69> Boo.

17:09 <Rookie_69> Hoo.

17:09 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o Rookie_69

17:09 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*=chatzill@*

17:09 *** Rookie_69 was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist (Anti-Autojoin 2sec Ban))

17:09 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*=chatzill@*

17:10 *** Rookie_69 has joined #boinc

17:10 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o Rookie_69

17:10 *** wdsmia sets mode: +b *!*=chatzill@*

17:10 *** Rookie_69 was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist (Anti-Autojoin 2sec Ban))

17:10 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*=chatzill@*

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17:11 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o+b Rookie_69 *!*=chatzill@*

17:11 *** Rookie_69 was kicked by wdsmia (You Are On My Blacklist)

17:11 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

17:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

17:13 *** wdsmia sets mode: -b *!*=chatzill@*

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17:13 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

17:15 <wdsmia> wb Glenn

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17:15 <wdsmia> *lo Paul

17:15 <Rookie_69> Being a buddy of an Op sure helps. Hi,

17:15 <TheGasGiant> heya are ya?

17:15 <Rookie_69> Paul!

17:16 <TheGasGiant> yo!

17:16 <Rookie_69> Got Gas?.. Lol.

17:16 <TheGasGiant> ;)

17:16 <TheGasGiant> warming up yet Glenn?

17:17 <wdsmia> nice day here +12C

17:17 <Rookie_69> 38F last time I looked.

17:17 <TheGasGiant> that's warming up....

17:18 <Rookie_69> 2C. but most of yesterday's snow has melted.

17:18 <TheGasGiant> snow...don't know the stuff...hardly know rain for that matter

17:18 <Rookie_69> Van roof is now green/blue instead of white.

17:19 <TheGasGiant> green/blue algae?

17:20 <Rookie_69> Clse enough.

17:20 *** quail has joined #boinc

17:20 <Rookie_69> close enough.

17:20 <wdsmia> wb quail

17:21 <quail> wdsmia: sorry I don't have have autojoin

17:21 <TheGasGiant> hola Dale

17:21 <PovAddict> quail: if you autojoin, it would have kicked you again immediately anyway :)

17:21 <quail> hey Paul

17:22 <quail> wdsmia: what you kick me for anyway

17:22 * wdsmia loves really nasty scripts ;)

17:22 <Romulus> TM has no idea if the file is 64_bit_analysis.xls

17:23 <wdsmia> quail 3 bad language warnings in 30 min

17:23 * quail thinks wdsmia was being a cunny funt at my exspence

17:24 <quail> wdsmia: :-(

17:25 <quail> my last comment was for you to add ****** to your list and I was kicked

17:26 <quail> and it was a word I was not using :-/

17:26 <wdsmia> 3 were added

17:26 <quail> hey Paul, what been happening?

17:26 <TheGasGiant> bit of this and a bit of that.....was on vacation last week

17:27 <quail> wdsmia: did you add bit*****

17:27 <TheGasGiant> then our cat got sick so we had to come home and take hin to the animal hospital after 24 hrs of being away

17:27 <quail> TheGasGiant: kewl, I got back from PNG late last week

17:28 <TheGasGiant> 2 days later my son and I continued our vacation while my wife stayed at home

17:28 <TheGasGiant>!

17:28 <Rookie_69> \Now that's a vacation.

17:28 <TheGasGiant> get robbed? raped? murdered?

17:29 <PovAddict> wdsmia: now there's another word for your list?

17:29 <quail> yeah I have been in Goroka doing computer stuff for a hospital

17:29 <TheGasGiant> sweet

17:29 <wdsmia> pov ?

17:29 <Romulus> hmm... pov is usually not got for very long, wdsmia

17:30 <quail> TheGasGiant: I had a great time there

17:30 <TheGasGiant> excellent

17:30 <quail> TheGasGiant: but it is bit ruff, with the policial crap

17:31 <TheGasGiant> yeah...and the poverty

17:31 <quail> yeah

17:31 <quail> but I had a great time

17:31 <TheGasGiant> sure would be an experience

17:32 <quail> but I not get lot sleep

17:32 <quail> TheGasGiant: it was an eye opener for me

17:33 <quail> we think we got it easy here, it just a joke

17:33 <TheGasGiant> seeing how a 3rd world country is, is always shocking...especially since it is so close to us

17:34 <quail> TheGasGiant: I was there to correct what some one else stuffed up on

17:34 <TheGasGiant> well done!  will you get a call back?

17:35 <quail> I am thinking of moving over to PNG

17:36 <TheGasGiant> don't be too hastey...

17:36 <quail> TheGasGiant: I was welcomed there

17:37 <quail> TheGasGiant: and I have knolage to help them

17:37 <TheGasGiant> always good...

17:38 <TheGasGiant> if you go try a 2 or 3 month stint first

17:38 <quail> TheGasGiant: It my purpose in life

17:38 <TheGasGiant> you had an epiphany?

17:39 <quail> TheGasGiant: one thing people don't understand is I am already a millionaire

17:39 <Romulus> Are you using unix, with all your sigs set up a big bunch of sieve and add oxygen. Now how you speeel it

17:40 <TheGasGiant> in PNG terms or AU terms?

17:40 <quail> TheGasGiant: the reason I am a millionaire is cause the people I have helped out

17:40 <TheGasGiant> sweet

17:41 <quail> TheGasGiant: I not want alot out life

17:41 <quail> personally

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17:42 <PovAddict> AGH

17:42 <TheGasGiant> eek

17:42 <PovAddict> how do I take a screenshot of the Alt-tab thingy?

17:42 <quail> I want to see the down and out get there

17:42 <TheGasGiant> go for it then Dale...just be safe while your there

17:42 <quail> TheGasGiant: hence why I went to PNG

17:43 <TheGasGiant> i think not being female will increase your safety 100 fold....

17:43 <DerMeister> PovAddict: press alt+tab, hold alt and press print

17:43 <DerMeister> then you got a screenshot of the complete screen in the clipboard

17:44 <quail> TheGasGiant: you not want to know the weapons the people that were looking aftr me had

17:44 <TheGasGiant> lol....

17:44 <quail> and they were not guns or pistols

17:45 <TheGasGiant> machettes?

17:45 <Romulus> most of the BOH excuse list

17:45 <quail> ah that and mmmm

17:45 <TheGasGiant> ooowww...I forgot about BOH...I'll have to catch up reading them

17:46 <quail> I not want to get kicked again

17:46 <quail> TheGasGiant: it was a trip of a life time

17:46 <TheGasGiant> type it...just keep the first and last letters correct but jumble up all the other letters

17:47 <quail> TheGasGiant: and I was sponsored to do it

17:47 <quail> TheGasGiant: huh?

17:47 <TheGasGiant> so you didn't pay for anything

17:47 <quail> TheGasGiant: nope

17:47 <TheGasGiant> [08:45] <quail> I not want to get kicked again -> [08:46] <TheGasGiant> type it...just keep the first and last letters correct but jumble up all the other letters

17:48 <quail> huh?

17:48 <quail> where did I swear?

17:49 <TheGasGiant> [08:45] <quail> ah that and mmmm

17:49 <TheGasGiant> [08:45] <quail> I not want to get kicked again

17:49 <quail> is sponsored a bad word?

17:49 <TheGasGiant> oh...

17:50 * TheGasGiant hits forehead

17:50 <quail> TheGasGiant: you not making any sence

17:50 <TheGasGiant> i got it now

17:50 <xcamel> 'lo Paul

17:50 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

17:50 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 8:30 AM EST; Partly Cloudy. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Overcast. Low:51 ° F. / (1 more message)

17:50 <TheGasGiant> heya Jay!

17:50 <quail> hey Jay

17:51 <TheGasGiant> brb..breaky time

17:51 <PovAddict> DerMeister: that didn't work for me

17:51 <quail> xcamel: TheGasGiant and I just talking about my trip to PNG

17:51 <PovAddict> DerMeister: I used Paint Shop Pro, set it to take a screenshot in 5 seconds, then held Alt until it got taken

17:51 <xcamel> ah..

17:52 <quail> when I got the time I will upload pics

17:53 <quail> tell you so many many sign I saw about HIV/AIDS

17:53 <Rookie_69> Nap time...

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17:54 <quail> TheGasGiant: this why I want to go back there and help out with the IT related stuff

17:55 <xcamel> Glenn still here?

17:55 <xcamel> guess not..

17:55 <Ageless> he just went to replace the hammer

17:55 <quail> glenn who?

17:55 <xcamel> Rookie..

17:56 <quail> Rookie.. who?

17:56 <Ageless> check two lines above your query, Jay

17:57 <xcamel> yup..

17:58 <quail> would anyone here hold it agaist me it I move to PNG to help out the lesser

17:59 <quail> to think of it they in some ways spiritally better off than us

18:01 <wdsmia> how will you live without high speed internet ;)

18:01 <wdsmia> j/k

18:02 <quail> wdsmia: I have learnt another side o life to that

18:03 <quail> s/o/of

18:08 <xcamel> warm area, no winter, topless women...

18:12 <Tank_Master> mmmm

18:12 <wdsmia> Dysentery and malaria

18:12 * Tank_Master likes topless women

18:17 <quail> wdsmia: lot that happen

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18:50 <xcamel> &wx 12074

18:50 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 27.9°F / -2.3°C | Humidity: 44% | Pressure: 30.51in / 1033.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows around 15. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...becoming north around 5 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 40s. North winds around 5 mph... becoming east around 5 mph in the (1 more message)

18:50 <xcamel> &more

18:50 <Romulus> xcamel: afternoon.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 20s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.;

18:50 <xcamel> it's just wrong.

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18:53 <Ageless> time to move to your own island on the equator then.

18:53 <TheGasGiant> brrr

18:57 <xcamel> winter just won't go away..

18:58 <xcamel> headed for the house in Mexico in a couple weeks...

18:58 <TheGasGiant> nice

18:58 * xcamel really needs the vacation

18:59 <TheGasGiant> been busy hey

18:59 <xcamel> I could tell..

18:59 <xcamel> you haven't been on line

19:00 <TheGasGiant> i'm over it a bit....

19:00 <TheGasGiant> moving out of the world of supply and back into engineering...

19:00 <TheGasGiant> with a nice pay rise

19:00 <xcamel> basement inventor..

19:01 <TheGasGiant> i've been busy hey... :)

19:01 <TheGasGiant> hence the need for a vac

19:02 <TheGasGiant> we're getting closer to starting to put pen to paper regarding the knock down and rebuild of our house

19:02 <xcamel> that's a serious project

19:03 <TheGasGiant> a big increase in our mortgage

19:03 <TheGasGiant> all well in the timber supply business?

19:03 <xcamel> better to put a couple years of the new raise in the bank first..

19:04 <TheGasGiant> lol...yeah and put my wife back to work

19:04 <xcamel> that too..

19:06 <TheGasGiant> heading off for the day...bbl

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19:11 <KathrynM> mornin'

19:11 * KathrynM is back (gone 10:37:41)

19:16 <Ageless> long sleep.

19:16 <Ageless> you hibernating?

19:16 <KathrynM> I left early to watch Harry potter

19:17 <Romulus> email to them now, it cause I encountered a medical emergency clearing the driveway was impassable - I need to drop that router from a course realy well

19:17 <Ageless> he interesting to watch?

19:17 <KathrynM> :)

19:17 <KathrynM> Book was better than the movie

19:17 <Ageless> aren't they all?

19:17 <KathrynM> yeah, usually

19:18 <Ageless> just take your favorite Stephen King or Tom Clancy book, then find the movie or game... brrrr

19:19 <Ageless> hmm, Seti changes.

19:19 <Ageless> Effective immediately, the forum administrator position will be rotating among the SETI@home staff. You can contact the current administrator by emailing setiforums as We will also be creating a SETI@home account linked to this email address.

19:19 <Ageless> Effective May 1, 2008, forum moderator will no longer be a permanent position. Moderators will be selected for a term of six months. Three moderators will be chosen every two months, with vacancies filled as needed, so as to keep nine active moderators on duty at any tim

19:20 * KathrynM shakes her head

19:21 <KathrynM> and why wait until May 1st?

19:21 <xcamel> getting just dark enough to see the new LED rings on the fountain

19:21 <xcamel> 'lo KathrynM

19:22 <Ageless> heh... they just sent in checks, you can't fire the hand that feeds you ;)

19:23 <KathrynM> lol

19:23 <KathrynM> mornin' xcamel

19:26 <xcamel>

19:26 <xcamel> (middle)

19:27 <KathrynM> brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

19:27 <KathrynM> nice pics

19:27 * wdsmia thinks that Jay spoils his geese

19:28 <PovAddict> wow

19:28 <KathrynM> poor llamas look cold

19:28 <PovAddict> it looks like a hologram or something :)

19:28 <xcamel> llalas are never cold

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19:28 <PovAddict> KathrynM: did you see

19:28 <Romulus> Title: Flash The Llama Song (at

19:28 <xcamel> wait until it gets a bit darker..

19:29 <xcamel> &llama

19:29 <Romulus> I have no idea.

19:29 <xcamel> Romulus, llama is

19:29 <Romulus> 10-4, xcamel.

19:29 <xcamel> that song will make you knutz..

19:30 <KathrynM> yeah

19:30 <xcamel> get all your little crumb-crunchers singing it...

19:31 <PovAddict> lol

19:31 <KathrynM> god no

19:31 <KathrynM> you wanna put me in the loony bin?

19:33 <xcamel> then send them on home..

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19:47 <Ageless> someone doesn't know what he wants to be called.

19:48 <xcamel> 'lo BK

19:48 <KathrynM> nickuwo!

19:48 <KathrynM> hi!

19:48 <PovAddict> BiteAbleKat always does that :)

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19:53 <nickuwo> Hey Kathryn!

19:53 <nickuwo> sorry, was doin laundry...

19:53 <KathrynM> wanna come finish mine?

19:54 <nickuwo> ya know I'd love to, but there's thing thing a gotta do, uh... *trails off*

19:54 <KathrynM> lol

19:54 * PovAddict hides

19:54 * xcamel gets all the lights turned on...

19:54 <nickuwo> what's the command for actions again? it's like /a or something...

19:55 <PovAddict> /me

19:55 <nickuwo> ahh yes

19:55 <nickuwo> rockin'

19:55 <xcamel> lol

19:55 * xcamel turns thr oven on 'self clean'

19:55 <nickuwo> Homework time

19:59 <BiteAbleKat> got rid of two more carloads of stuff today

20:00 <BiteAbleKat> neighbors are coming to get 4 large pieces of furniture i dont want tomorrow

20:00 <Romulus> - domains are technically owned by Eric Myers a while now..

20:03 <PovAddict> xcamel: feeling rebel?

20:03 <PovAddict> turning on all lights on earth hour?

20:03 <xcamel> not drinking the koolaid of the Dim Bulb Express

20:04 <PovAddict> if you think it's a stupid campaign, don't do it

20:04 <PovAddict> but don't turn all lights on purpose either...

20:04 <xcamel> have to go light up the carbon-arc searchlights

20:05 <xcamel> and the runway lights...

20:06 <PovAddict> <.<

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20:18 <efc> then these companies go back to leaving the lights and computers on 24/7

20:18 <Romulus> what seems like basic processes stuff, though

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20:28 <xcamel> 'lo BB

20:29 <xcamel> efc, google is building it's massive server farms in Oregon, Lithuania, and china, where power is cheap, and the emissions are unregulated.

20:30 <xcamel> hypocrites

20:31 <efc> Figures.. the real cost of inefficient software finally shows up

20:31 <BadBarbarian> 'LO xCAMEL

20:32 <BadBarbarian> opps

20:33 <xcamel> lol

20:33 <BadBarbarian> hows your weather back east

20:34 <xcamel> still have snow

20:34 <xcamel> getting sick of it..

20:34 <BadBarbarian> &weather 86023

20:34 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 59°F / 15.0°C | Humidity: 25% | Pressure: in / hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 30 on the North Rim to around 54 along the Colorado River. South winds 15 to 20 mph.; Sunday - Windy. Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of rain showers in the morning...a slight chance of rain showers and (2 more messages)

20:34 <BadBarbarian> &more

20:34 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs around 50 on the North Rim to around 75 along the Colorado River. South winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 40 mph increasing to southwest 20 to 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 10 percent.; Sunday Night - Windy. Mostly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of rain showers. Snow level 7000 feet after midnight. Lows around 28 on the (1 more message)

20:34 <BadBarbarian> &more

20:34 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: North Rim to around 48 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds 20 to 30 mph becoming light.; Wind Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 8:00 PM MST on March 30, 2008;

20:35 <xcamel> you can join be down in Lapaz in a couple weeks..

20:37 <wdsmia> Jay dont look now, but your pond is on fire ;)

20:37 <xcamel> yup..

20:37 <BadBarbarian> going too Lima next week

20:37 <xcamel> wish the color showed up at night

20:44 <KathrynM> I'm off to prepare for Operation Spring Clean part deux.

20:44 <KathrynM> Laterz

20:45 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:47 <xcamel> Lima Peru?

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20:58 <xcamel> off to watch some scifi..

21:01 <efc> vampire version of Married With Children?

21:02 <PovAddict> lol

21:06 <BadBarbarian> yes

21:06 <BadBarbarian> sorry was afk

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21:18 <Ageless> so much so for going to bed early.

21:18 <Ageless> all of a sudden it's 3:15 ;)

21:19 <Ageless> while an hour ago it was only 1:15...

21:24 <Keith> Damn..I forgot...we're now on Summer Time..que for a song..but not from me..

21:26 <Ageless> I only noticed as I turned on teletext after watching that movie on BBC One and saw the time had jumped.

21:28 <Keith> Or what I should have said was..A cue for a song...keep talking the tablets.....

21:29 <Keith> ..Yep..they keep talking to me..;)

21:29 <Ageless> nice looking new front page on the UOW, Nicolas.

21:30 <Ageless> or UBW

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21:33 <PovAddict> I think that was all from Rytis

21:33 <PovAddict> but long ago

21:36 <Ageless> Eric Myers did propose it with mediawiki a year or so back

21:36 <Ageless> or probably longer back

21:37 <Ageless> he even offered it for the official wiki to david, who denied it...

21:43 <Didactylos> Denied it? Did he give a reason?

21:44 <Didactylos> Or do you mean UBW, not specifically the new front page?

21:48 <Ageless> I'd have to check through old emails to see what was the reason. Or just talk to Eric about it. Will get back to you on that.

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21:55 <Ageless> ok, he didn't deny it, just talked around it. check BOINC Projects list archive of 03/29/07

21:58 <PovAddict> that's useful info; searching archive

22:01 <Ageless> I am quite sleepy... rechecking that post I see D. A. was never in it. You were though, Nick.

22:01 <PovAddict> I searched for it on my email actually

22:01 <PovAddict> I have been on that list since 2006

22:02 <Ageless> that one was called New BOINC Wiki proposal

22:03 <PovAddict> yes, reading

22:03 <Ageless> other info about its uses was in FAQ & Forums of 11/5/07

22:05 <PovAddict> well that was interesting - I wonder why the thread died

22:05 <PovAddict> by the way:

22:05 <PovAddict>

22:05 <Romulus> <> (at

22:05 <Ageless> people lost interest

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22:06 <Ageless> hey Erik

22:06 <zombie67> howdie

22:06 <Ageless> I saw Paul's post. a little more than 5 paragraphs.

22:07 <PovAddict> I think it's relevant to decide what to do about the wiki

22:08 <Ageless> well, write it and they will come... um. if anything, I have always allowed people to take over my FAQs for Wikis and such. Neil and I do ask if they ask first, but that's not really necessary.

22:09 <Ageless> there's no copyright on them, so if you want to take over some of what we've done in the BFS, I can easily port them over.

22:09 <Ageless> I just suck at Wiki writing ;)

22:09 <PovAddict> we need a goal and some organization before starting writing

22:10 <Ageless> sure, that's why I said to start off with the simple things, the things newcomers look at first.

22:10 <PovAddict> about copyright... yes, unfortunately there is

22:10 <Ageless> have Help in BOINC Manager point at actual help.

22:11 <Ageless> not just a page that shows what is what, but give examples, step by step explanations on how to set up things, the like...

22:11 <PovAddict> if it doesn't explicitly say it's in the public domain, it's not

22:11 <Ageless> of course, you still cannot make them read it.

22:11 <PovAddict> if it doesn't explicitly say what you can do with it (= a license), it has default copyright (at least that's how I think it works in most countries)

22:11 <Ageless> the only thing they see is the button to the forums. And in the forums they only see the New Thread button.

22:12 <PovAddict> Azureus (bittorrent software) has IRC functionality built-in, taking to the support channel by default

22:12 <Ageless> the software that the BFS runs off is copyrighted by Neil. the contents of the BFS aren't.

22:13 <Ageless> but I can ask him to explicitely add a notion that the contents can be copied, preferably after politely asking to do so.

22:13 <PovAddict> also, there is an interesting feature... if you get in the support channel from Azureus itself, admins can send a special message to you that makes Azureus send them your settings

22:14 <Didactylos> Just to restate my opinion:

22:14 <Didactylos> I think the official BOINC wiki should contain the official BOINC documentation, including how-tos, references, and FAQs.

22:14 <PovAddict> so you join and say your downloads are going slow, and he can immediately tell you "your upload speed is set to unlimited; that's a bad idea" and help you set an appropriate limit... but even needing to ask you what your settings are

22:14 <Didactylos> For project specific stuff - I'm open to suggestions.

22:15 <PovAddict> ...but without even needing...

22:15 <PovAddict> (damn that was the worst word to accidentally miss)

22:16 <PovAddict> Didactylos: I agree with that; the only thing I disliked was maybe a "technical detail": using Trac software for user docs (and KathrynM agreed, particularly for the CamelCasePageNames)

22:16 <Ageless> David, I understand WCG wants to have their own Wiki. I'm sure other projects will want that as well. That shouldn't be a problem, as long as the new Wiki (for lack of a better name) points to it.

22:16 <Didactylos> But since we never use them in links, I don't think that's an issue.

22:16 <Ageless> as else you still have the information divided over 75+ wikis.

22:17 <Didactylos> (I think it's better than Title Case Links....)

22:17 <PovAddict> Didactylos: that's only one of the reasons not to use Trac wiki...

22:18 <zombie67> as a user, trac is a horrible resource

22:18 <Didactylos> Ageless: absolutely. Interwiki is our friend.

22:18 <PovAddict> zombie67: do you mean it just for its lack of content?

22:18 <zombie67> finding stuff

22:18 <Didactylos> This is why I've already started transfering any BOINC specific stuff in the WCG knowledgebase to the OBW.

22:18 <Ageless> I agree

22:19 <Ageless> just type in screensaver in Trac and then you have to go through 20 pages to find your page

22:20 <PovAddict> mediawiki is way more powerful for this... and anyone who has ever seen Wikipedia will be familar with the layout

22:20 <Romulus> who says they have it on, and on that snippet, so you made them did you start later in the WCG knowledgebase to the worker app

22:20 <Didactylos> Ageless: I think something's broken.

22:21 <Didactylos> It is *supposed* to go straight to the Screensaver page - and I remember that it used to work.

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22:21 <Ageless> the search box is nice, but it does add to the confusion that it automatically searches all tickets, changesets and wiki entries. I know, clicking Search first then specifying what you want to look through is doable, but usually you just use the search box first.

22:22 <PovAddict> anonymous users can't see changesets

22:22 <Ageless> lol, I was logged out earlier, so did see a smaller search result.

22:22 <PovAddict> tickets show up though

22:23 <PovAddict> and all the developer docs of course

22:23 <Didactylos> mediawiki isn't all that great.... it's big, bloated, and the wiki syntax sucks.

22:23 <wdsmia> asks Didactylos to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

22:23 <Didactylos> wdsmia: huh?

22:23 <PovAddict> hey it's not that bad of a word...

22:23 <PovAddict> Didactylos: your last 5-letter word triggered his script

22:23 <Didactylos> Wonderful.

22:24 <PovAddict> it's worse when it trips on words like "farther"

22:24 <zombie67> blos

22:24 <zombie67> lows

22:24 <zombie67> blows

22:24 <PovAddict> ...oh, it doesn't anymore?

22:24 <PovAddict> farther

22:24 <Ageless> screws

22:24 <PovAddict> nope

22:24 <zombie67> there, use blows instead if $ucks

22:25 <Didactylos> And thus words like pron are invented.

22:25 * Tank_Master likes prons

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22:25 * PovAddict does a search

22:25 <Ageless> on the friendly neighborhood forum you'd be kicked...

22:25 <PovAddict> Didactylos:

22:25 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #627168 (at

22:25 <zombie67> man, i can't type well tonight

22:25 <Ageless> go write an essay and come back

22:26 <Ageless> warm up for your fingers

22:26 <Didactylos>

22:27 <Didactylos> (again)

22:27 <PovAddict> haha

22:27 <PovAddict> don't click any link

22:27 <PovAddict> read what I posted and QUIT

22:28 <Ageless> that's funny

22:29 <Didactylos> Ageless: I expect many users to start at the beginning:

22:29 <Romulus> Title: RunningBoinc - BOINC - Trac (at

22:29 <Didactylos> The screensaver link is right there - users don't have to search.

22:30 <Didactylos> Just how many users are bots?

22:30 <PovAddict> just because they can find it elsewhere doesn't justify search functionality being crap

22:31 <Ageless> David, perhaps so, but even then it's not really useful. No step by step explanation on how to correctly install BOINC.

22:31 <Ageless> and all three OSes are there on the same page. cluttered.

22:31 <Didactylos> Oh, yes, it's awful.

22:31 <Didactylos> Fix it?

22:32 <Didactylos> :-D

22:32 <Ageless> How many times have we explained to people where the Service install option is in the installer?

22:32 <Ageless> how many times have we told them how to change the install directory?

22:32 <Ageless> I wouldn't mind fixing it.

22:33 <Ageless> but as I said, I su... um, blow at writing Wiki

22:33 <Ageless> I can make nice screen shots though

22:33 <Didactylos> I'm just trying to say that I think the benefits of having the official BOINC docs on the official BOINC wiki at the official domain outweigh the disadvantages.

22:34 <Didactylos> Ageless: screenshots help. A lot.

22:34 <Ageless> true

22:34 <PovAddict> I don't see the problem in having be mediawiki and highly based on contents from current UBW

22:34 <Romulus> Title: MediaWiki 1.8.2 (at

22:34 <PovAddict> OMG


22:34 <MTughan> Empty...

22:35 <PovAddict> still, I didn't expect that :)

22:35 <Didactylos> Heh.

22:35 <Ageless> isn't that just the setup for >

22:35 <Romulus> Title: BOINC (at

22:35 <Ageless> ?

22:35 <Didactylos> Maybe that was when DA did some experimenting and discovered that he hated Mediawiki?

22:36 <PovAddict> we shouldn't let DA's hates get into this... after all, he hates all 3rd party XML parsers and look what we got due to that...

22:36 <Didactylos> Mediawiki works for wikipedia, but in most other cases..... ugleeeeey! Like the new v6 wiki - all those links to discover that so far there are only 2 pages?

22:37 <PovAddict> Didactylos: so what? that just means it's extremely low on content

22:37 <PovAddict> because it was mostly a test

22:37 <Didactylos> Just saying that with Mediawiki, it's hard to see the wood for all the trees.

22:38 <Didactylos> There are hundreds of wiki engines out there.

22:38 <PovAddict> okay, go find a good one

22:38 <Didactylos> Mediawiki's good, but it's nothing special.

22:38 <Didactylos> The Trac engine has the benefit of simplicity.

22:39 <Ageless> extremely low on content, right. There's nothing there. Can't write config file, aborting

22:39 <Romulus> 500 is too big for the BF and GA workgenerators use that like cout << x in C++ to make a proper work generator in Java???"

22:39 <PovAddict> Ageless: I was talking about

22:39 <Romulus> Title: Main Page - Unofficial BOINC Wiki (at

22:41 <Didactylos> Isn't one wiki for one subject enough?

22:41 <Ageless> will Rommie eventually also repeat things I said here?

22:41 <MTughan> Ageless: Probably.

22:41 <PovAddict> &markov extremely

22:41 <Romulus> extremely low on content

22:41 <Ageless> irritating bot

22:41 <Didactylos> Having two wiki engines on the same site would drive me nuts.

22:42 <MTughan> Talk to xcamel. We've bugged him a number of times to turn Markov off, but he leaves it.

22:42 <PovAddict>

22:42 <PovAddict>

22:42 <Romulus> Title: The OLPC Wiki - OLPC (at

22:42 <PovAddict> hey look what engines those are :)

22:42 <Romulus> Title: One Laptop Per Child – Trac (at

22:42 <Didactylos> Note to self: ask Arachnid what happened to his markov experiment. Something to do with Google and a multi-billion node database.....

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22:50 <Ageless> responding to a PM, brb

22:53 <PovAddict> MTughan: I think your boinc manager screenshots had transparency

22:53 <PovAddict> which was lost when you converted to JPEG

22:53 <MTughan> I didn't convert to JPEG.

22:53 <PovAddict> if you have the time, I think it's better if you re-post them with white background instead of black

22:53 <PovAddict> ah, sourceforge did...

22:56 <MTughan> I wish remembered my login...

22:57 <PovAddict> heh

22:58 <PovAddict> Didactylos: from "[boinc_dev] Trac timeline" thread (although that particular message was off-list)

22:58 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at

22:59 <Didactylos> Ah, I remember now.

23:00 <PovAddict>

23:00 <Romulus> Title: WikiMatrix - Compare them all (at

23:00 <Ageless> back.

23:00 <Didactylos> That was more about hiding the developer links from Joe Average User than a desire to split the actual documentation.

23:00 <Didactylos> (the links at the top, not inline links)

23:00 <MTughan> And SF f*cked up with screenshots...

23:01 <PovAddict> if we split, they get "hidden" from search results as well

23:01 <Ageless> say, that other idea I had a while back, was that feasible? have small Help question marks next to the boxes and drop down menus in Trac's ticketing? Or not without a complete rewrite?

23:01 <MTughan> I can't delete one of the old screenshots...

23:02 <PovAddict> Ageless: ask in #trac if it's feasible :D

23:02 <Ageless> when i am awake.

23:02 <PovAddict> I don't know python, so even less the Trac code

23:03 <Ageless> poor Monthy

23:03 <MTughan> Oh, that's what that checkbox is for...

23:03 <PovAddict> MTughan: that looks much better \o/

23:04 <MTughan> For the delete screenshot, they have a button with a mysterious checkbox beside it. No labels or anything. Turns out you have to check that before the screenshot will be deleted.

23:05 <PovAddict> file a bug; although bugs in SF get processed kinda slow...

23:05 <PovAddict> (not to mention feature requests)

23:05 <MTughan> Well, it does say how to delete it by checking that box in the directions, but not on the actual page itself...

23:05 <MTughan>

23:05 <Romulus> <> (at

23:06 <efc> Atmosphereic electrical discharges incoming

23:06 <PovAddict> lightning? :)

23:06 <efc> &weather boinc

23:06 <Romulus> efc: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

23:06 <efc> &weather 30625

23:07 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1025hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Heavy Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Lows around 50. Northeast winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy with a 40 percent chance of showers. Highs (1 more message)

23:08 <efc> I wonder if Rommy could see it if I set up a private weather station

23:08 <Ageless> ok, I am diving off to bed. 5 past 5, that's early enough.

23:08 <zombie67> gn

23:08 <Ageless> night owl ;)

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23:10 * KathrynM is back (gone 02:25:13)

23:10 <PovAddict> amazing timing

23:10 <KathrynM> oh?

23:10 <Romulus> oh is it like SocialBorg, KathrynM

23:10 <PovAddict> Jord quit a minute ago :)

23:10 <KathrynM> lol

23:11 <KathrynM> I'm only here a bit.  I'm waiting for water to heat up so I can commence with the cleaning :(

23:15 <efc> what keeps thumping upstairs..

23:15 <KathrynM> I've asked myself that often.

23:15 <KathrynM> And decided that I really don't want to know what the couple above me is doing :-)

23:16 <PovAddict>

23:16 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #6562 (at

23:16 <PovAddict> powerful memory I have (to remember a few appropriate words to use as search terms)

23:17 <KathrynM> lol

23:19 <efc> I'm alone in the house though..

23:19 <efc> haha good one PoV

23:19 <efc> Had that problem a few years ago

23:20 <efc> I thought there was a washing machine above me but then i figured it out

23:21 <efc> Ah, thunder

23:21 <efc> kicking it up pretty good

23:22 * efc looks at weather stations from $99 to $1000

23:22 <efc> er $2k

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23:25 <dubkat> hey guys, im having trouble attaching to a project (seti at home) on gentoo

23:25 <dubkat> i tried using their init script. failed

23:25 <PovAddict> what BOINC version? gentoo had some *really* old ones...

23:25 <dubkat> standby

23:26 <dubkat> built from BOINC 4.72

23:26 <KathrynM> 4.72?

23:26 <dubkat> too old? i think there's a new version

23:26 <dubkat> Available versions:  (~)4.72.20050813-r3 (~)5.2.14 (~)5.4.11 [M](~)5.5.6 (~)5.8.15 (~)5.10.28

23:26 <dubkat> i suppose i tried 5.10 before asking for help :)

23:27 <MTughan> 5.10.28 is the only semblance of a real version...

23:27 <PovAddict> see, that's what I meant with "really old"

23:27 <dubkat> err *should try*

23:27 <KathrynM> 5.8.x is sill ok

23:27 <MTughan> How old is 4.x at this point? At least 3 years, I'd say...

23:27 <KathrynM> old, but ok

23:27 <KathrynM> 2+ for sure

23:27 <KathrynM> I started out with 4.45 I think

23:27 <Romulus> This is science, not science fiction. Let's learn what there is the name was changed from init_result(RESULT const&, void*&); to init_result(RESULT &, void*&) because it was like 18

23:27 <PovAddict> and 5.4.11 is arguably "acceptable"... but a 4.x? no way, that's *ancient* :)

23:27 <KathrynM> And that was about 2.5 years ago

23:27 <MTughan> I think I might've had 5.8.x when I started about two years ago.

23:28 <KathrynM> heck, use 4.x at Seti and you'll have people screaming at you

23:28 <dubkat> well thats weird. i told it to install boinc and it installed the oldest one, now all of a sudden is like "oooh upgrade!"

23:28 * dubkat kicks paludis

23:28 <KathrynM> lol

23:28 <KathrynM> I amire gentoo users

23:28 <MTughan> Yeah, those package managers can be a bit touchy...

23:28 <KathrynM> I have enough trouble with Fedora

23:28 <PovAddict> dubkat: go complain to gentoo guys; official BOINC developers have nothing to do with the packages :)

23:28 <KathrynM> that's for sure PovAddict

23:28 <PovAddict> gentoo is something I think I should try some day

23:29 <KathrynM> oh yeah, compiling the entire kernel.  fun

23:29 <dubkat> i switched to gentoo from fedora KathrynM mainly because i was tired of upgrading every 6 months

23:29 <KathrynM> heh.  I've yet to go past Fedora 7.

23:29 <KathrynM> It works.  That's all I care about.

23:29 <KathrynM> I didn't care for Ubuntu

23:29 <dubkat> i generally dont have problems with gentoo. if i did, i wouldnt be using it :)

23:29 <KathrynM> Although I'm going to wipe my Ubuntu partition later and put Edubuntu on it for work.

23:30 <MTughan> I'm gonna probably go to Fedora 9 when I upgrade to x86-64.

23:30 * KathrynM bows to dubkat

23:30 <dubkat> Fedora 9 is out now?

23:30 <dubkat> wow, time flies

23:30 <KathrynM> Heck, when I installed Fedora on the new lappy, I stuck with Fedora 7

23:30 <KathrynM> Fedora 9 is in beta I think.

23:30 <dubkat> ah

23:30 <dubkat> i think FC5 was the last one i used

23:30 <MTughan> Yea, beta.

23:30 <MTughan> FC5... Haven't used that for about 2+ years.

23:30 <KathrynM> Eric just intsalled FC6-x64 on his new rig

23:30 <dubkat> i recommend FC to linux newbies

23:31 <dubkat> it's installer is ace

23:31 <MTughan> Not Ubuntu?

23:31 <KathrynM> Fedora just worked for me.  Ubuntu, not so much

23:31 <dubkat> ive never used ubuntu, but i dont like debian, so no :)

23:31 <KathrynM> No wireless and wrong screen resolution

23:31 * efc make that $4000 weather stations ..

23:31 <MTughan> efc: Stop looking before you go insane.

23:31 * KathrynM really should be cleaning, but discussing Linux is more fun

23:32 <dubkat> atleast its not a "my distro beats your disto" conversation :)

23:32 <KathrynM> :D

23:32 <MTughan> Try going to #ReactOS and discussing Linux. xD

23:32 <dubkat> and for the record, i dont use gentoo so i can -funroll-loops, ok!?

23:32 <dubkat> -OMG-OPTOMIZE

23:32 <PovAddict> nah just a "my Linux beats your Windows" conversation :)

23:32 <MTughan> lol

23:32 * efc has not tried that option

23:33 <KathrynM> I don't wanna know...

23:33 <efc> its going at it out there

23:33 <MTughan> I wonder how much sanity still remains on this channel altogether anyway... Surely not much.

23:33 <dubkat> KathrynM: us gentoo users have a bad reputation of trying to squeeze in every insane code optimization available

23:33 <dubkat> some deserve that reputation :)

23:33 <KathrynM> Well, my brother had (has?) a gentoo install and he's as nuts as they come ;)

23:34 <dubkat> haha

23:34 <KathrynM>

23:34 <KathrynM> his blog

23:34 <Romulus> Title: Not Very Christian (at

23:34 <MTughan> I have a dead partition on my harddrive where I had Vista Beta...

23:34 <MTughan> Maybe I should try another Linux distro.

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23:35 <PovAddict> KathrynM: is that some pun on his name? :)

23:35 <KathrynM> nah

23:36 <efc> Raising shields and shutting down

23:36 <KathrynM>

23:36 <Romulus> Title: Not Very Christian » Blog Archive » Finally a new domain (at

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23:36 <dubkat> haha. i love that domain name

23:36 <KathrynM> that's my baby bro

23:37 <KathrynM> He has been helpful in getting me up to speed in LInux.

23:38 <KathrynM> When I told him about my struggles with sendmail, he told me that I had him beat :D

23:38 <dubkat> ive been trying to do the same with my sister.... now a year later she wants windows :(

23:38 <dubkat> i told her "fine, go buy a disk"

23:39 <KathrynM> lol

23:39 <PovAddict> buy?

23:40 <KathrynM> I have one computer left running xp

23:40 <KathrynM> And only because the cd drive is dead dead dead.

23:41 <dubkat> PovAddict: i could pirate it for her, but i want her feel sorry for buying it. that way she can kick herself later

23:41 <KathrynM> what kind of crazy store sells rubber gloves that come one to a pack :/

23:42 <KathrynM> gonna make cleaning a bit difficult

23:42 <dubkat> see, after cleaning virii off her comptuer numerous times, im sick of playing tech-support

23:42 * KathrynM goes to tackle the refrigerator

23:43 <dubkat> andromeda ~ # boinc_cmd --version && boinc_cmd --attach_project <SNIP>

23:43 <dubkat> boinc_cmd,  built from BOINC 5.10.28

23:43 <dubkat> connect: Connection refused

23:43 <dubkat> can't connect to local host

23:43 <dubkat> what the heck??

23:43 <Romulus> Rumor has it what the heck is exit code 193, dubkat

23:43 <dubkat> o.O

23:44 <KathrynM> damn bot

23:44 <MTughan> Ignore Romulus...

23:44 * KathrynM starts a Southpark epsidoe

23:44 <dubkat> oooh

23:45 <dubkat> lets try WITHOUT the typo

23:45 <dubkat> still no

23:45 <dubkat> hrm

23:54 <PovAddict> dubkat: maybe the client itself isn't running yet

23:54 <PovAddict> boinc --daemon

23:54 <PovAddict> (or boinc_client? not sure how gentoo calls it)

23:54 <KathrynM> yuck

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23:56 <dubkat> ooh

23:56 <dubkat> that seems to work

23:56 <dubkat> boinc_client NOT boinc_cmd

23:56 <dubkat> 30-Mar-2008 03:56:19 [SETI@home] Started download of setiathome-5.27.i686-pc-linux-gnu

23:56 <PovAddict> you first start boinc_client, then control it with boinc_cmd

23:57 <dubkat> ppj

23:57 <dubkat> err

23:58 <dubkat> oooh

23:59 <PovAddict> KathrynM, Didactylos: Paul still posting @ SETI

23:59 <PovAddict> he seems to think I want to start the wiki from scratch, and he seems to think I want to do it alone

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