IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-04-04

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00:18 <Soul_keeper>

00:23 <PovAddict> heh

00:23 <PovAddict> seti forum

00:23 <PovAddict> about the "please come back" reminder emails

00:23 <PovAddict> "Matt, you know that before you send out those e-mails, you have to say and do the proper incantations and offerings to the all powerful god Murphy. :-)"

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01:09 <efc> &weather 31088

01:09 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 53F / 12C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain in the evening... then a slight chance of rain after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers in the (1 more message)

01:12 * PovAddict is just about to pass out

01:12 * efc sneezes

01:13 <PovAddict> a good sign I should go to sleep instead of tinkering with OpenGL projection matrix

01:13 <PovAddict> wish me luck reaching bed

01:13 <Romulus> its why people have so much easier :)

01:14 <efc> Night Pov

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03:55 <CoderForLife> quail:

03:55 <Romulus> <> (at

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04:44 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 56.1F / 13.4C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.38in / 994.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2.2mph / 3.5km/h ; Today - Showers and scattered thunderstorms early this morning...then cloudy with a chance of showers. Near steady temperatures in the upper 50s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. A chance of (1 more message)

04:44 <CoderForLife> &more

04:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: showers...mainly in the evening. Lows around 40. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. North winds around 5 mph.; Areal Flood Watch, Areal Flood Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 10:15 AM EDT on April 04, 2008;

05:07 <CoderForLife> hooray - crossed 1M on QMC this morning

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05:17 * CoderForLife drags his sorry behind off in the general direction of w@#%

05:17 <CoderForLife> later

05:47 <xcamel> ip kills >> (

05:57 <CoderForLife> plinked - thanks

05:58 <CoderForLife> I'm on the rim and out the door

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06:23 <hawmps> 'lo

06:23 <KathrynM> hiya

06:23 <KathrynM> TGIF

06:31 <hawmps> indeed

06:50 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

06:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 32F / 0C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy in the morning then clearing. Not as cool. Areas of fog early in the morning. High in the upper 50s. Northwest wind near 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. High (1 more message)

06:51 <wdsmia> &more

06:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: in the upper 60s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph shifting to the south around 20 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 30 mph.;

06:51 <Romulus> don't even know if you get your computer and see what you do that

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06:52 <Strawfox> Hi there

06:53 <KathrynM> hiya

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06:55 <Excelsior> (mwerf)

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06:56 <OSBC> (sorry)

06:56 <KathrynM> Identity crisis?  :)

06:56 <OSBC> No, Nickserv crisis

06:57 <OSBC> I should have another one but nickserv shoot me

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06:57 <Excelsi0r> ah

06:57 <Excelsi0r> well :D

07:13 <hawmps> eh?

07:13 <MTughan> I'm off to school, gotta take the laptop today...

07:13 <hawmps> later Mike

07:13 <MTughan> Seeya Jay.

07:13 <hawmps> a bit of wet snow this morning

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07:45 <CoderForLife> massive rain overnight

07:46 <CoderForLife> it appeared that the deck was still on the back of the house

08:18 * hawmps is hoping the backroad washes out today..

08:28 <hawmps> ip kill >>

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09:58 <wdsmia_w> &quiet

09:58 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

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10:22 <spawny> hi

10:23 <spawny> I don't understand why my manager run very slowly since I'm connected to another network

10:25 <spawny> benje, je comprend pas pourquoi mon manager tourne au ralenti en ce moment, je suis juste connecté depuis un autre réseau.. ça ne devrait pas avoir de rapport avec le manager si?

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10:29 <hawmps> busy friday

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10:43 <CoderForLife> je ne sais pas moi, aussi =)

10:43 <CoderForLife> dang rain

10:46 <wdsmia_w> SoggyForLife?

10:47 <ddr> What could cause this msg when I try to upload wu to the server?  Msg: [error] Error on file upload: invalid signature

10:47 <ddr> I probbably misconfigured something on the server, but have no idea what or where to start looking...

10:54 <wolog> hello, does someone know why I get "client detached" Outcome status on some tasks ? (Is not documented on the "explain" link)

11:01 <CoderForLife> at least when I looked at the back door this morning, the deck still appeared to be level, wdsmia_w

11:04 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

11:04 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 38.3F / 3.5C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Not as cool. Patchy fog late in the morning. High in the upper 50s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Breezy. High in the (1 more message)

11:04 <wdsmia_w> &more

11:04 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: mid 60s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to south 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon.;

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11:51 <wdsmia_w> Tape Run... bbl

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12:28 <PovAddict> Didactylos:

12:28 <Romulus> <> (at

12:44 <Didactylos> PovAddict: what are you going to do?

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13:34 <_Danilo_> hi to all

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13:43 <PovAddict> &help translate

13:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: That command exists in the Babelfish and Format plugins.  Please specify exactly which plugin command you want help with.

13:43 <PovAddict> &help babelfish translate

13:43 <Romulus> PovAddict: (babelfish translate <from-language> [to] <to-language> <text>) -- Returns <text> translated from <from-language> into <to-language>. Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results.

13:58 <hawmps> damn I hate flashplayer sometimes

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14:19 <Excelsi0r> Hello people

14:19 <hawmps> 'lo

14:20 <Excelsi0r> I have some strange things with BOINC Manager

14:20 <Excelsi0r> With BAM, I have set priority for all my projects, excepted one project which I set the priority to 1000

14:21 <Didactylos> o/` With a bit of a mind flip, / You're there in the time slip / And nothing can ever be the same. o/`

14:21 <PovAddict> Excelsi0r: all 100, except one which is 1000?

14:21 <Excelsi0r> No, all 1

14:21 <Excelsi0r> But they are at 100

14:22 <Excelsi0r> (I forgot to type it)

14:22 <Excelsi0r> I set 1 for all, except one to 1000

14:23 <PovAddict> you set 1 for all on BAM?

14:23 <Excelsi0r> the project is at 1000 in my BOINC manager, but the others are 100 instead of 1

14:23 <Excelsi0r> yep

14:23 <PovAddict> does BAM show the 1 on all projects?

14:23 <Excelsi0r> yes

14:23 <Excelsi0r> (except for the one to 1000)

14:23 <PovAddict> click on the project on the manager, and click Update

14:23 <PovAddict> on any project currently showing 100

14:24 <Excelsi0r> they stay at 100

14:25 <Excelsi0r> well, this is not the most annoying (with a project set to 1000, I guess 100 is not a lot)

14:26 <Excelsi0r> but the projects with 100 wants to work before the one set to 1000

14:26 <PovAddict> debts

14:26 <Excelsi0r> what ?

14:26 <PovAddict> suppose all your projects are at 100

14:26 <Romulus> what do you print them to pop.

14:26 <PovAddict> but one day, your client had to crunch for a single project during a whole day, because otherwise it would miss the deadlines

14:27 <PovAddict> debts accumulate for the other projects (you "owe" them work)

14:27 <Excelsi0r> ah... I see

14:27 <PovAddict> so then the client won't work on that one project for a whole day, to compensate

14:27 <PovAddict> and... who knows what your current debts are like :)

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14:28 <Excelsi0r> I think I see

14:29 <PovAddict> did you install BOINC using apt, or the official version from BOINC website?

14:29 <Excelsi0r> with apt

14:30 <PovAddict> try this on the command line: grep '<master_url\|debt' /var/lib/boinc/client_state.xml

14:31 <PovAddict> should give projects and their debts, although in a pretty ugly format :)

14:32 <ddr> What could cause this msg when I try to upload wu to the server?  Msg: [error] Error on file upload: invalid signature

14:32 <ddr> I probbably misconfigured something on the server, but have no idea what or where to start looking...

14:32 <Romulus> I have Thunderbird and it does work

14:32 <Excelsi0r> okay, I see some numbers

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14:33 <Excelsi0r> PovAddict: are the debts calculated in processor time ?

14:33 <PovAddict> Excelsi0r: debts are in seconds

14:33 <Excelsi0r> oki

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14:38 <Excelsi0r> thanks PovAddict

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14:42 <Excelsi0r> what if I have negative debts ?

14:42 <PovAddict> you definitely will have negative debts

14:42 <PovAddict> the sum of all debts is 0

14:43 <Excelsi0r> ah, okay, it's like an internal priority

14:44 <PovAddict> yes

14:44 <PovAddict> what BOINC version do you have?

14:45 <PovAddict> since 5.10.14, you can change debts using boinc_cmd

14:46 <Excelsi0r> 5.10.8 I think

14:47 <Excelsi0r> yes, 5.10.8

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15:48 <xcamel> ip kill >>

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15:57 <CoderForLife> howdy

15:57 <xcamel> 'lo

15:58 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

15:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 52.8F / 11.6C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.39in / 995.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers early this evening. Clearing late. Lows around 40. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

15:58 <CoderForLife> &more

15:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;

15:58 <xcamel> so.. anyone care to tackle why certain projects preempt other running tasks on multi-core machins?

15:59 <CoderForLife> the rains over night and today have exacerbated my problem - go figure

15:59 <xcamel> abc and reisel bot seem to do it.

15:59 <xcamel> er both, even.

15:59 <PovAddict> xcamel: tight deadline?

15:59 <xcamel> it stops anything from running on other cores

16:00 <PovAddict> :|

16:00 <xcamel> supercamel is doing it right now, but I'd have to get a screenshot..

16:00 <PovAddict> you mean some cores get idle even though there is other work queued?

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16:03 <xcamel> hold on..

16:04 <xcamel>

16:04 <xcamel> caution - large

16:04 <xcamel> look at the running tasks, then look at the gkrellm monitor on the right..

16:04 <PovAddict> how many cores do you have?

16:04 <xcamel> 4

16:05 <PovAddict> and I see four running tasks

16:05 <PovAddict> hrm

16:05 <xcamel> ..obviously

16:05 <PovAddict> RAM doing well?

16:05 <xcamel> plenty of it

16:05 <CoderForLife> hmm

16:05 * PovAddict scratches head

16:05 <xcamel> for that one, if I suspended abc, all would be running again

16:06 <PovAddict> do you see CPU usage from all four tasks?

16:06 <PovAddict> does CPU time go up on those running tasks?

16:06 <CoderForLife> the 4 running tasks are due soonest

16:07 <PovAddict> if all four tasks are running, they should be using all four cores!

16:07 <Romulus> looks like dozens of memory tho

16:07 <KathrynM> what does top show?

16:07 <KathrynM> nice gui btw

16:08 <CoderForLife> CPUs 2 and 3 are lightly loaded (on the desktop display)

16:08 <xcamel>

16:09 <xcamel> all running, with abc suspended

16:09 <KathrynM> bad link

16:09 <CoderForLife> not found

16:09 <xcamel> just a sec

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16:09 <KathrynM> jack!

16:09 <jackygrahamez> hi

16:09 <CoderForLife> you know jack?

16:09 <xcamel> ok.. it's there

16:10 <CoderForLife> I don't know jack - hello jackygrahamez

16:10 <KathrynM> groan

16:10 <xcamel> ditto

16:10 <KathrynM> that's weird xcamel

16:10 <xcamel> all 4 cpu's cooking with abc suspended

16:10 <KathrynM> I've got abc running on the other comp, let me check it

16:10 <jackygrahamez> Hi CoderForLife

16:11 <xcamel> sometimes reisel does it too

16:11 <xcamel> 'lo Jack

16:12 <xcamel> it will also do it on 'pete' (32 bit), but never seen it on 'repete' (64 bit)

16:12 <xcamel> both having 4 cores

16:12 <PovAddict> what does top show?

16:12 <KathrynM> abc is loading the core it's running on

16:13 * KathrynM shrugs

16:13 <PovAddict> do the four tasks use CPU? maybe any are waiting for I/O too much or something?

16:13 <xcamel> they just go idle, or start swapping cores in use

16:14 <xcamel> IO is nearly zero - it's pure calculation

16:14 <xcamel> and it's on both intel and amd cpus

16:19 <jackygrahamez> What do people think about the API for parallel workunits writing to a namespace?

16:19 <PovAddict> I don't see the point

16:20 <jackygrahamez> Because it is too slow?

16:20 <PovAddict> no, I just don't see why it would be needed

16:21 <xcamel> anyway... 100% load is normal, but it's not true loading - it the chart were orange, that would be real load vs 'nice' load

16:22 <xcamel> all my linux boxes run at 100% 'nice' load all the time

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16:27 <jackygrahamez> The problems I study may be more feasible in a truly parallel environment. BOINC does not provide that, though I don't have the resources to buy a super computer. Maybe this API will lead to an environment where I can test parallel capabilities to build a proof of concept before apply for a grant?

16:27 <xcamel> PoV - uh-oh.. looks like about 50 ABC's sitting in memory...

16:28 <PovAddict> xcamel: eek, so maybe you *were* low on RAM?

16:28 <PovAddict> looks like buggy ABC app

16:28 <KathrynM> waiting to run?

16:28 <KathrynM> or just didn't get cleaned up?

16:29 <quail> morning all

16:30 <KathrynM> something like that

16:30 <KathrynM> very dark outside tho

16:30 <PovAddict> 17:30:14

16:30 <KathrynM> 530

16:30 <PovAddict> what the...

16:30 <xcamel> no..8gb of memory on that box

16:30 <PovAddict> what are you doing awake??

16:30 <KathrynM> insomnia

16:31 <xcamel> restarting boinc cleared it

16:31 <KathrynM> so it's either toss and turn in bed or get on the internet

16:31 <PovAddict> that's what I like of my iPod touch

16:31 <KathrynM> lol

16:31 <PovAddict> can do both

16:32 <KathrynM> toss and turn in bed and on the internet at the same time

16:33 <PovAddict> all it needs is an "iBoincMgr"

16:33 <PovAddict> control your farm from bed!

16:33 <KathrynM> lol

16:33 <KathrynM> sadly my p4 is toast

16:34 <KathrynM> died late last night

16:34 <PovAddict> includes free subscription to boincaholics anonymous

16:34 <PovAddict> aww

16:34 <PovAddict> RIP p4

16:34 <KathrynM> what about ata

16:34 <KathrynM> I think it's where the power goest into the mobo

16:34 <PovAddict> mobo dead?

16:34 <KathrynM> it's been acting funky for a couple weeks

16:34 <xcamel> bbiab

16:34 <PovAddict> or PSU?

16:34 <KathrynM> laptop

16:34 <PovAddict> oic

16:34 <KathrynM> i jiggled it last night and got it to run for a few minutes

16:35 <KathrynM> but it must have jiggled itself loose

16:35 <PovAddict> checked dust bunnies?

16:35 <KathrynM> sadly it was about an hour away from finishing an e@H

16:35 <PovAddict>

16:35 <Romulus> <> (at

16:35 <KathrynM> no power going into it at all

16:35 <jackygrahamez> Question about CMOS, does anyone know of a way to interface with CMOS using JAVA?

16:35 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: are you talking of the BIOS??

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16:47 <wdsmia_w> Just about time to clean the coffee cup and call it a week

16:48 <PovAddict> TGIF huh?

16:48 <wdsmia_w> yep

16:48 <wdsmia_w> bbl

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17:30 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:30 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

17:31 <Romulus> or the BOINC Manager and corresponding BOINC framework are now done. ;)

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17:35 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

17:35 <Rookie_69> Evenin', Doug.

17:36 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

17:36 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 40.8°F / 4.9°C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 13.5mph / 21.7km/h | Updated: 6:36 PM ADT; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. Rain beginning this evening changing to snow then to rain overnight. Snowfall amount 5 cm(2.0 in). Rainfall amount 5 mm. Wind becoming east 20 km/h (12 mph) this evening then increasing to (1 more message)

17:36 <Rookie_69> &more

17:36 <Romulus> Rookie_69: 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) overnight. Low 1C(34F).; Saturday - Periods of rain or drizzle. Amount 2 to 4 mm(0.1 to 0.2 in). Fog patches developing in the morning. Wind east 40 km/h (25 mph) gusting to 60 km/h (37 mph) becoming light in the morning. High 6C(43F). Saturday night cloudy. Wind becoming northeast 20 km/h (12 mph) overnight. Low 0C(32F).; Sunday - Cloudy. High 8C(46F).;

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17:38 <ilovegizmos> can one of you help me out with making configuration and workunit files for uc2?  i'm kinda confused about how exactly to do it

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17:42 <xcamel> re-back

17:42 <wdsmia> wb jay

17:42 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

17:43 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

17:43 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

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17:48 <Ageless> It's April. It's gonna snow. Someone tell the weather deities they're doing it all wrong.

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17:48 <xcamel> quite an ugly day compared to yesterday...

17:48 <Ageless> and just as I have to drive 700km on Sunday.

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17:51 <xcamel> I didn't think Denmark was that big..

17:52 <Ageless> you got me confused with someone else at Seti...

17:52 <Ageless> wrong sex as well

17:53 <Ageless> but if you have to drive 350km to somewhere, you usually have to drive it back as well. ;)

17:53 <xcamel> oh.. right... a 'neederlander'

17:59 <xcamel> Shame on those folks from Oregon... Hiding that 14,500 year old poop for so long...

18:00 <Rookie_69> Any cheese drums buried in it?

18:01 <xcamel>,2933,346049,00.html

18:01 <Romulus> <> (at

18:01 <xcamel> Of course, the Pericu were in the southern Baja 22-25K years ago, if not longer

18:02 <Romulus> awww cute 1st image on icanhascheezburger

18:02 <Rookie_69> "This is the first time we have been able to get dates that are undeniably human, ??? Sounds like my love life... :-(

18:04 <xcamel> &katz

18:04 <Romulus> No idea!

18:04 <xcamel> &katz!

18:04 <Romulus> I don't have a clue!

18:04 <xcamel> ok... who fraked that up?

18:04 <xcamel> &Katz!

18:04 <Romulus> Wish I knew.

18:04 <Rookie_69> I didn't do it!

18:05 <xcamel> &whatis Katz!

18:05 <Romulus> xcamel: "Katz!" could be

18:05 <xcamel> ah..

18:06 <xcamel> the hairless?

18:06 <Ageless> it's just slow. Type now, get answer later

18:06 <PovAddict>

18:06 <Romulus> <> (at

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18:09 <xcamel> I saw that one..

18:09 <xcamel> and the camel.. sniff sniff..

18:09 <Excelsi0r> looks like me before coffee

18:10 <Excelsi0r> (with some more hairs)

18:13 <xcamel> been there... done that

18:13 <xcamel> &whatis Dogz!

18:13 <Romulus> xcamel: "Dogz!" could be

18:15 <Excelsi0r> omg

18:15 <Romulus> definitely using Java3D or something to do with your computer taking a char* as argument

18:15 <PovAddict> LOL @ "How long have I been asleep?!"

18:15 <xcamel> weeks..

18:31 <Ageless> How to get around the difficulty of trying to read a PM at Cosmo when more than half the time I have time outs on the site.? ;)

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18:32 <xcamel> I gave up on cosmo

18:32 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

18:32 <xcamel> heads up on nasty weather headed your way..

18:34 <Ageless> the weather's gone crazy!

18:34 <Ageless> the next ice age is coming. Hide your children now... ah.. um

18:35 <efc> Moo

18:35 <efc> I saw the lightning page going hot. Dad says its quiet there though.

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18:55 <CoderForLife> back

18:55 <CoderForLife> cable modem replaced

18:57 <xcamel> working ok?

19:03 <Rookie_69> ... replaced with what???

19:04 <PovAddict> with a dialup modem

19:04 <xcamel> a flux capacitor

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19:24 <xcamel> 'lo Keith

19:25 <deprecated> Anybody know whats up with LHC? They preparing for the blackhole creation?

19:25 <xcamel> probably

19:26 <xcamel> "Welcome to Black Mesa"

19:26 <efc> Headed out. No zaps yet.

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19:26 <wdsmia> *lo Keith

19:27 <Rookie_69> Any Keiths out there?

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19:34 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

19:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 58.8F / 14.9C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 30s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Breezy. High in the upper 60s. Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to south 20 to 25 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Partly (1 more message)

19:34 <wdsmia> &more

19:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: cloudy. A 20 percent chance of showers after midnight. Low in the mid 40s. South wind 15 to 20 mph.;

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19:36 <KathrynM> great.  I get back to sleep about an hour ago and idiots outside my building wake me up with their yelling

19:37 <KathrynM> someone run kill -9 kathryn for me

19:39 <PovAddict> kill -STOP `pidof KathrynM`

19:39 <PovAddict> you have been suspended

19:39 <PovAddict> I'll send you a SIGCONT in an hour or two

19:41 <KathrynM> nah, kill -9 is better

19:41 <PovAddict> but there is no way back from -9

19:42 <KathrynM> oh well

19:42 <KathrynM> i'm gonna try to sleep again

19:42 <MTughan> There is, but not for the process. You just have to start it up again.

19:42 <KathrynM> laterz

19:42 <MTughan> Bye.

19:42 <PovAddict> MTughan: but you lose anything in memory

19:42 <xcamel> number 9...  number 9...  number 9...

19:43 <MTughan> Good point.

19:43 <PovAddict> so yeah, start the process again, but you lose the progress from the last thirty-something years (I'm sure KathrynM won't give us the exact number!)

19:45 <KathrynM> who said I was 30?

19:45 <KathrynM> I'm 29

19:46 <Romulus> when that happens, efc, old

19:46 <KathrynM> That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

19:46 <PovAddict> you have said 29 for a few years, so I know you're thirty-none-of-your-business

19:47 <KathrynM> Like I said.  I'm 29.

19:47 <PovAddict> fine

19:47 <xcamel> again...

19:47 <KathrynM> I'm an old maid in Korea.  Over 25 and not married or dating?  Ha!

19:47 <PovAddict> "I'm 29, and will be for a few more years"

19:47 <xcamel> I celebrate an unnamed anniversary of my 29th birthday

19:48 <KathrynM> :)

19:48 <PovAddict> marriage is overrated, ask E-30

19:48 <Rookie_69> I saw 29 omce...

19:48 <Rookie_69> ... once...

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19:50 <Rookie_69> I was at a 30th birthday party for a friend a few years ago...

19:50 <Rookie_69> In the can, I said something about wishing I was thirty again...

19:52 <Rookie_69> One of the other guys said something like what was that... two years ago?..

19:52 <Rookie_69> I said Yeah... and then ten...

19:53 <Rookie_69> ... or something like that...

19:54 <Rookie_69> I don't think he believed I was fourty-odd at the time.

19:56 <Keith_Stanley> Hell...I'm at least..hmmm...damn that old!!

19:56 <Keith_Stanley> Oh...hello folks..

19:56 <KathrynM> mornin' Keith_Stanley

19:56 <Rookie_69> I just wish I only felt fourty-odd old...

19:56 <Keith_Stanley> Hi Kathryn

19:56 <xcamel> oh.. there he is...

19:56 <Keith_Stanley> Same here

19:56 <Keith_Stanley> Where?

19:57 <Rookie_69> Doug went out yo walk Gregor a minute or so ago.

19:57 <Keith_Stanley> OK

19:57 <Rookie_69> ... to...

19:57 <Rookie_69> Stupid keys...

19:57 <PovAddict> also known as "the idiot"; or so I heard...

19:57 <KathrynM> someone rearranged your keyboard Rookie_69?

19:57 <PovAddict> (gregor)

19:57 <Keith_Stanley> :)

19:58 <Rookie_69> My T and Y take turns almost daily.

19:58 <Rookie_69> Gregor, You Idiot!

19:59 <xcamel> lol

19:59 <PovAddict> that one

20:00 <Rookie_69> He said "around the block" means five blocks so He might be gone for a few...

20:01 <Rookie_69> ... not just to the first pole.

20:01 <xcamel> tornado warnings up, Ed..

20:02 <xcamel> Doug just puts gregor in the potato gun and fires him down the block...

20:02 <xcamel> then walks down to collect the feathers.

20:03 <Rookie_69>

20:03 <Romulus> Title: Panavia Tornado - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

20:05 <xcamel> today is the anniversary of the Xenia OH super outbreak

20:06 <xcamel> wiped right off the face of the earth

20:09 <wdsmia> Gregor's Back

20:11 <Rookie_69> Scratch Gregor's back.

20:11 <xcamel>

20:11 <Romulus> Title: Super Outbreak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

20:12 <wdsmia> He perfers a good butt scratch

20:12 <xcamel>

20:12 <Romulus> <> (at

20:13 <CoderForLife> Xenia has been hit twice

20:13 <CoderForLife> once one side of town, and then the other

20:13 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

20:13 <CoderForLife> hello Glenn

20:14 <CoderForLife> been on the phone with folks at w@#%

20:14 <CoderForLife> they're trying to do a production turnover of a new display of quarterly annuity statements online

20:14 <Rookie_69> Shame on you.

20:15 <CoderForLife> the web site keeps shifting out of https to http

20:15 <wdsmia> Hope you get overtime

20:15 <CoderForLife> I am salaried

20:15 <xcamel> That was the day I decided I would learn enough about the weather to lower the odds of ever getting killed like that.

20:15 <Romulus> for my Suse Linux 10.1 btw...

20:15 <Rookie_69> The clock stops here!

20:15 <wdsmia> Sux 2 B U

20:16 <CoderForLife> these are good people, trying to get the j@b done

20:16 <CoderForLife> they called because they needed ideas

20:16 <Rookie_69> Good ideas?

20:17 <CoderForLife> they're in the @ffic3 - I'm at home

20:17 <CoderForLife> they were looking for ideas to keep them from having to order pizza

20:18 <Rookie_69> ... ordering pizza is always a good idea...

20:18 <PovAddict> mmmm pizza

20:18 <CoderForLife> not when you're doing it because you can't go home

20:18 <PovAddict> server racks are good to keep the pizza warm

20:19 <CoderForLife> these are application folks - they aren't allowed to use the rack warmers

20:19 <CoderForLife> they can't get into the data center

20:20 <Rookie_69> Fu$&ing snow is falling.:-(

20:23 <CoderForLife> I told the cable tech guy about my theory of remote reboot DoS, and he thought I was crazy

20:23 <CoderForLife>

20:23 <Romulus> <> (at

20:24 * CoderForLife shakes his head wearily

20:24 <CoderForLife> so it is possible

20:25 <Rookie_69> He is probably right, but that doesn't mean remote reboot is...

20:25 <CoderForLife> right that I am crazy?

20:25 <Rookie_69> Well, yeah.

20:25 <Rookie_69> ;-)

20:25 * CoderForLife reaches for a trout....

20:26 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:26 * Rookie_69 ducks

20:26 <xcamel> several reports that a blackhat can hack a cable modem in about 30 seconds

20:27 <Rookie_69> Sounds like a fancy meal... Trout and duck...

20:27 <Rookie_69> Mmm... fungus too...

20:28 <Rookie_69> ... and slivered nuts...

20:28 <wdsmia> sounds more like a personal problem Rookie_69

20:29 * Rookie_69 is getting hungry.

20:33 <xcamel> Gregor on a stick?

20:34 <Rookie_69> K.

20:34 <xcamel> with chillis

20:35 <wdsmia> Gregor ate the stick

20:35 <wdsmia> and the tree

20:39 <xcamel> I'd bet..

20:45 * CoderForLife thinks about re-dinner

20:46 <xcamel> scooby snacks..

20:47 <CoderForLife> something along that line - I bet there's a hobbit word for it - like the difference between dinner and supper

20:47 <Romulus> but did you pull that off.

20:47 <CoderForLife> I never put off eating, Rommie

20:48 <CoderForLife> me and food go way back

20:48 <Rookie_69> Second dinner?

20:48 <Rookie_69> Early supper?

20:48 <Rookie_69> Dupper?

20:48 <Rookie_69> Sinner!

20:49 * wdsmia me wants Hush puppys and grits but only has left over Lasagna

20:49 <xcamel> you might as well eat gregor's stick...

20:50 * Rookie_69 will take WDSMIA's lasagna and owe him a plate of grits and hush puppies.

20:50 <wdsmia> Yankee's have no taste

20:52 * CoderForLife goes in search of good eats

20:52 <CoderForLife> I'm off for tonight

20:52 <CoderForLife> BSG Season Last starts in about an hour

20:52 <wdsmia> Cya Don

20:53 <Rookie_69> I'm off most nights.

20:53 <Romulus> I got kicked off.

20:53 <CoderForLife> bye =)

20:53 <xcamel> looking to see if the boltek can "see" the lightning in SC

20:54 <xcamel> thanks for reminding me...

20:57 <Rookie_69> Van roof is white but road is still shiny black. Snow should be illegal.

20:58 <Rookie_69> Lol. Snow no longer in forecast.

20:59 <xcamel> hanging out at 39F here.. rain moving out now..

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21:02 <Rookie_69> Rain heading my way.

21:05 <xcamel> yup.. catching a few strong strikes in north Georgia

21:18 <Rookie_69> NN all.

21:18 <wdsmia> &nn Glenn

21:18 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

21:18 <Rookie_69> :-)

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21:42 * xcamel yawns

21:48 <xcamel> laterz..

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22:47 <sethy> morning all

22:47 <PovAddict> omg RUN

22:47 <PovAddict> it's teh sethy

22:48 <sethy> ... whats so bad about that?

22:49 <MTughan> Well, he first wrote it in the wrong chat window...

22:50 <sethy> but on the seventh day, moot sold 4chan

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23:14 <efc> Routing around nuclear detonation, please be patient

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23:19 * KathrynM is back (gone 14:49:46)

23:19 <PovAddict> 14 hrs? that seems wrong

23:19 <PovAddict> unless you were talking while away before

23:19 <KathrynM> was talking while away

23:20 <KathrynM> Was too brain dead to realize I was away

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23:29 <PovAddict> Didactylos: I think DevProjects should be more like Tasks, not Enhancements

23:34 <PovAddict> actually, some items there look better as enhancements... (the ones marked Easy)

23:55 <Didactylos> Of course they should. (>.<)

23:55 <PovAddict> I mean, why does your new page check only Enhancements and not Tasks?

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23:57 <Didactylos> Because I did it wrong.

23:57 <PovAddict> ah k :)

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