IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-04-05

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00:01 <MTughan> &cad

00:01 <Romulus> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

00:02 <MTughan> Cool. Tim wants our help deciding what Ethan does!

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00:27 <PovAddict> haha http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46229&nowrap=true#734193

00:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/55q2fb> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

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00:44 <PovAddict> oh, POEMathon finished?

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01:13 <PovAddict> sleep ->

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01:26 <Soul_keeper> &whatis linux

01:26 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

01:29 <Soul_keeper> bla

01:29 <Soul_keeper> where's the svn/cvs ?

01:37 <Soul_keeper> svn co http://boinc.berkeley.edu/svn/trunk/boinc

01:37 <Romulus> Title: Revision 15019: /trunk/boinc (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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01:44 <zombie67> NNR?

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03:41 <Soul_keeper> WTF it's my bday

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05:35 <CoderForLife> HB Soul_keeper

05:35 <KathrynM> mornin' CoderForLife

05:35 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM

05:36 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 42.0F / 5.6C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of fog early this morning. Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 50s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 30s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds (1 more message)

05:37 <CoderForLife> yum upper 60s

05:37 <CoderForLife> &more

05:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: around 5 mph...becoming southeast in the afternoon.;

05:37 <CoderForLife> &more, much more

05:37 <Romulus> I don't have a clue.

05:37 <CoderForLife> rats

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05:38 <KathrynM> nice

05:38 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

05:38 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 20% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1020hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:68 F. / 20 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:66 F. / 19 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Rain. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F. / 8 C.;

05:41 <Excelsi0r> Hi

05:41 <CoderForLife> hello Excelsi0r

05:41 <KathrynM> mornin', evenin', afternoon, whatever

05:42 <Excelsi0r> :)

05:42 <CoderForLife> pick your personal favorite time

05:43 <Excelsi0r> I'd pick up "noon", but it's not there

05:43 <CoderForLife> you have to pick mornin and afternoon, add, then divide by 2

05:43 <Excelsi0r> sure :)

05:44 <KathrynM> averages out in the end ;)

05:44 <KathrynM> I've resurrected the P4 laptop by jiggling the cord.  I'm going to try to nurse the E@H unit to the end and then retire the computer.

05:45 * CoderForLife jiggles himself to see if that helps

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05:46 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, TMI

05:46 * CoderForLife wonders what resurrection is supposed to feel like, but he doesn't think he made it

05:47 <Excelsi0r> eww

05:47 <CoderForLife> maybe I'll try breakfast

05:47 * KathrynM wonders why she hangs out in the nuthouse.

05:47 <CoderForLife> it's because you just can't get enough of my (nit) wit

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05:49 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:49 * Excelsi0r wonders if he can have the weather from romulus for his town which has a compound noun

05:49 <Excelsi0r> hello Celelaptop (enfin, salut quoi)

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05:54 <Excelsi0r> &wx La Rochelle

05:54 <Romulus> Excelsi0r: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 11:30 AM CEST; Scattered Clouds. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. High:48 F. / 9 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:37 F. / 3 (1 more message)

05:55 <Excelsi0r> &more

05:55 <Romulus> Excelsi0r: C.;

05:55 <Excelsi0r> C too Romulus

05:55 <KathrynM> C is for Cookie :)

05:55 <KathrynM> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_is_for_cookie

05:56 <Romulus> Title: C Is for Cookie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

05:56 <Excelsi0r> :p

05:56 <KathrynM> I've sung that song way too many times in the past month

05:57 <KathrynM> now I"ve moved onto Rubber Duckie

05:57 <KathrynM> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_Duckie

05:57 <Romulus> Title: Rubber Duckie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

05:57 <CoderForLife> b

05:57 <KathrynM> wb

05:58 <CoderForLife> ty

05:58 <CoderForLife> you *really* need to hang out with some adults for awhile, KathrynM

05:58 <KathrynM> lol

05:59 <KathrynM> I took my guinea pig to work yesterday.

05:59 <KathrynM> She'll never be the same.

05:59 <CoderForLife> terrorized the poor thing?

05:59 <KathrynM> she's traumatized

05:59 <CoderForLife> doubtless

05:59 <KathrynM> the little ones were nicer to her than the older ones

06:00 * CoderForLife has learned that he is terribly allergic to g.p. dander

06:00 <Excelsi0r> get a rat :)

06:00 <KathrynM> Rats are nice creatures.

06:00 <KathrynM> I had 3 in the animal lab during uni.

06:01 * CoderForLife wonders why he hangs out in the nuthouse

06:01 <Excelsi0r> Yeah, rats are cool and funny

06:01 <Excelsi0r> and they have love to share

06:01 <Excelsi0r> But they don't live very long :/

06:01 * CoderForLife checks the news to see if the world ended while he was sleeping

06:02 <KathrynM> I had a bad day once and I sat in the lab crying.  My rat (named Domino after Fats Domino) crawled up my arm onto my shoulder and nuzzled me until I stopped crying.

06:02 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, it's all a figament of your imagination

06:02 <KathrynM> btw, CoderForLife, you're marked away

06:02 <CoderForLife> he was deciding is you were done enough to me

06:02 <KathrynM> huh?

06:02 <CoderForLife> I go through life "away"

06:03 <KathrynM> lol

06:03 <CoderForLife> ah. I feel like a new Coder

06:03 <KathrynM> Did your w&@* crisis get averted last night?

06:03 <KathrynM> Or did that team order pizza?

06:04 <CoderForLife> I didn't get a status report after they started going down 2 different problem resolution tracks

06:05 <CoderForLife> the plan was to re-convene today if it didn't get resolved

06:06 <CoderForLife> I am no longer the indispensible key contributor in that arena

06:07 <KathrynM> I'm outta here.  Going to dinner with friends.

06:07 <KathrynM> Laterz

06:07 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

06:07 <CoderForLife> I am like the history keeper, and the out-of-the-box thinker

06:07 <Excelsi0r> bye Kat

06:07 <CoderForLife> hopefully your friends exceed age 6

06:07 * Excelsi0r 's gotta have a coffee

06:07 <Romulus> You decide via use-flag what should I ask google if I rename my SearchPath.Data, SearchPath.cntCur and SearchPath.cntMax references

06:08 <CoderForLife> you Code like I Code, Rommie

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07:20 <CoderForLife> early morning pick and white criss-crossing contrails

07:20 <CoderForLife> intersecting lines at dawn

07:22 <CoderForLife> I must be off to the store - bbl

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08:07 <xcamel> 'mornin

08:20 <Excelsi0r> good afternoon :)

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08:56 <xcamel> to hub or not to hub

08:56 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

08:56 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 46.2F / 7.9C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 4.9mph / 7.9km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 60s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the upper 40s. Southeast wind (1 more message)

08:57 <wdsmia> &more

08:57 <Romulus> wdsmia: 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then a slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 60s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent.;

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08:57 <Excelsi0r> wow, it's cold around your location

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08:58 <xcamel> 36F here

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08:58 <Excelsi0r> 57F

08:59 <xcamel> must be nice

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09:00 <xcamel> &wx MMLP

09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 4:51 AM MST; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Clear. Low:57 F. / 14 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F. / 14 C.; Clear. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Clear. Low:55 F. / 13 C.;

09:00 <Excelsi0r> boh, I personnaly prefer when it's 68°C

09:00 <Excelsi0r> 68°F

09:00 <Excelsi0r> (68°C is a little bit too hot :p)

09:01 <xcamel> I'l be heading to LaPaz for 2 weeks on friday... it'll be warm enough there..

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09:02 <Excelsi0r> &wx La Paz

09:02 <Romulus> Excelsi0r: Clear. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:64 F. / 18 C.;

09:03 <Excelsi0r> Too warm

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09:03 <xcamel> &wx La Paz, MX

09:03 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 4:51 AM MST; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Clear. Low:57 F. / 14 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:57 F. / 14 C.; Clear. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Clear. Low:55 F. / 13 C.;

09:03 <xcamel> only 6:00 am there

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09:05 <Excelsi0r> well, if it temperatures don't go upper than 80°F, I'll say it's good

09:06 <xcamel> average 91/60

09:06 <Romulus> sorry I forget these things easy.

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09:06 <Excelsi0r> well, not that bad :)

09:06 <KathrynM> Poor Rommie.  Perhaps you need a RAM upgrade.

09:08 <Excelsi0r> I don't get a thing with the weather plugin of the bot

09:09 <Excelsi0r> How can I say... How can I be sure he give me the weather of the right place ? How must I ask him for a foreign location ?

09:09 <xcamel> where do you live?

09:09 <Excelsi0r> La Rochelle, in France

09:10 <xcamel> &wx La Rochelle, FR

09:10 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM CEST; Scattered Clouds. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. High:48 F. / 9 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:37 F. / 3 (1 more message)

09:10 <xcamel> it's based on the last hourly report

09:10 <xcamel> &more

09:10 <Romulus> xcamel: C.;

09:10 <Excelsi0r> okay

09:11 <Excelsi0r> thanks

09:11 <xcamel> or you can use your closest airport..

09:11 <Excelsi0r> I already use it :D

09:11 <xcamel> name of it?

09:11 <Excelsi0r> Laleu

09:12 <Excelsi0r> But maybe it's named La Rochelle in the database

09:12 <Excelsi0r> or were you asking for a special code ?

09:13 <xcamel> &wx LBFR

09:13 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

09:13 <xcamel> &weather LBFR

09:13 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

09:14 <xcamel> not reporting..

09:15 <Excelsi0r> hmmm

09:15 <Excelsi0r> &wx LFBH

09:15 <Romulus> Excelsi0r: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 13mph / 20km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM CEST; Scattered Clouds. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. High:48 F. / 9 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:37 F. / 3 (1 more message)

09:15 <Excelsi0r> okay

09:16 <Excelsi0r> &more

09:16 <Romulus> Excelsi0r: C.;

09:17 <Excelsi0r> C u 2 :)

09:18 <xcamel> did I read it wrong?

09:19 <Excelsi0r> Don't know, but I searched its code on Wikipedia, it gave me LFBH

09:22 <Excelsi0r> it's also named LRH with another code

09:22 <Excelsi0r> Whatever

09:22 <xcamel> kind of odd

09:23 <Excelsi0r> why ?

09:27 <xcamel> ok.. found the problem...

09:27 <xcamel> http://www.airport-technology.com/icao-codes/L.html

09:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6g7r53> (at www.airport-technology.com)

09:27 <Excelsi0r> yeah LFBR

09:27 <Excelsi0r> strange

09:29 <xcamel> MMLP is just 3 above that...

09:29 <Excelsi0r> :)

09:29 <xcamel> but not enough airlines fly in there...

09:29 <Excelsi0r> but I don't get why this isn't the right code

09:30 <Excelsi0r> maybe a typo

09:30 <xcamel> I have to fly into MMSD

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10:34 <CoderForLife> morning

10:35 <CoderForLife> I didn't get to the store this morning - had to go into w@#% to help the folks with the problem (That's where I am now)

10:42 <Excelsi0r> my morning was less exciting

10:42 <Excelsi0r> (the afternoon to, thus)

10:42 <Excelsi0r> *too

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12:06 <xcamel> re-back

12:06 <wdsmia> wb

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12:09 <xcamel> well... chores part one done..

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12:12 * Rookie_69 now has enough stuff to make his own lasagne, just no clean dishes to prepare it in.

12:13 * Rookie_69 is doing dishes...

12:13 <xcamel> hate it when that happens..

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12:17 * Rookie_69 hates it when dishes happen too.

12:19 <Ageless> it's a sad day when a host of a stats site can't be impartial in a problem he has with a project and needs to rename it on the stats for all to see.

12:19 <Ageless> don't use TSWB anymore

12:20 <xcamel> guess I missed that one..

12:27 <Ageless> perhaps projects should boycott TSWB to get stats from their sites.

12:28 <Ageless> until they have a reliable hosting company.

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12:50 * Rookie_69 wishes his hands still worked properly as he washes his spatula... again.

12:53 * Rookie_69 notes that samurai shark works well as he washes cutting board with two half-sized sponges...

12:54 <Rookie_69> 8... 9... 10. Yup. All there.

12:55 <Ageless> since we managed to get 24 (!!) sponges in one packet for only 1 euro, I doubt you have problems getting something similar in your neighborhood. ;)

12:56 <Rookie_69> A dollar a dozen at Dollarama.

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12:57 <Rookie_69> ... and almost as good as the 3 for $5 ones at the supermarket.

13:00 <Ageless> there you have it. there's almost 2 dollars in a euro...

13:01 <Rookie_69> 1.00 EUR = 1.58245 CAD

13:01 <Rookie_69> ... according to XE...

13:02 <Ageless> excuse me, wrong dollar. must remember you live above that poverty line.

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13:03 <Ageless> although... 1 Euro(s) = 1.57134 US Dollar(s

13:06 <Ageless> 1 USD = 1.0087 CAD

13:06 <Ageless> 1 CAD = 0.991375 USD

13:06 * Rookie_69 wonders why he would buy unpitted olives :-(

13:07 <Rookie_69> Note to self... take reading glasses to supermarket.

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13:17 <Rookie_69> Another note to self... bottom of pot can still be hot even with block of frozen sauce in it.

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14:49 <Rookie_69> Star wars tonight on Skype... No, wait... that's Spike.

14:49 <Rookie_69> Oh well.

14:49 <efc> Moo R

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14:50 <Rookie_69> ooM, E.

14:56 <Rookie_69> Almost a half serving of Lasagne already attached to bottom of oven :-(

14:57 <Rookie_69> Plop, sizzle, smoke...

14:59 <efc> One time I was baking a pizza...

14:59 <efc> and the front of the pizza stuck to the oven door

15:00 <efc> so I open door and the pizza flops onto the burners

15:00 <efc> (electric)

15:00 <efc> I recovered some fraction of a pizza, the rest burned on real good

15:01 * Rookie_69 thinks Eddie shouldn't cook pizzas.

15:01 <Rookie_69> Lol.

15:01 <efc> Usually they turn out better than that..

15:01 <Ageless> leave them in their plastic until after you put them in the oven

15:02 <Rookie_69> Plastic melts into more cheese?

15:03 <Ageless> don't cook it in the plastic... just take the plastic off once you put it in the oven. Can be fiddly. ;)

15:04 <Rookie_69> I cooked a pre-made pizza once and wondered why it was so hard to slice until I realized that I cooked the cardboard disc along with it...

15:05 <efc> Hehe mom has done that too

15:07 * Rookie_69 thinks that 9" by 13" pans should be 1/4" higher...

15:08 <Ageless> time to put dinner on the table, then off to bed as I'll have to be up at 5am. laters all.

15:08 * efc read that wrong

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15:20 * Rookie_69 was going to say that he was surprised to learn that EFC could read, but decided against it.

15:21 * Rookie_69 ducks.

15:22 * efc Quack

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15:22 <jackygrahamez> What's up?

15:22 <Rookie_69> Not the temps...

15:23 <jackygrahamez> Pour qui?

15:23 <Rookie_69> Last time I checked the thermo here, it said 3C.

15:24 <wdsmia> 17C here

15:25 * Rookie_69 wonders how to duck wdsmia as he says piss off.

15:25 <wdsmia> :)

15:25 <Rookie_69> Hmm...

15:26 <Rookie_69> Piss off!

15:26 <Rookie_69> :-)

15:26 <jackygrahamez> Where is here?

15:26 <Romulus> I guess here is the problem, jackygrahamez

15:26 <xcamel> 53F here

15:27 <xcamel> damn near nice out

15:27 <Rookie_69> My here is East coast of Canada.

15:27 <efc> moo

15:27 <jackygrahamez> I don't believe its ever too cold

15:28 <xcamel> yeah, right.

15:28 <Rookie_69> Too damp is worse than too cold.

15:31 <efc> around 1.5 inches of rain here in the last 18 hours

15:31 <xcamel> those were some mean storms that went through..

15:32 <Rookie_69> Most of last night's precipitation here was snow :-(

15:32 <efc> Yeah the lightning map was lit up pretty good around here

15:32 <efc> and I was driving through the middle of it

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15:38 <xcamel> http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=matter-antimatter-split-hi

15:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5h4uw8> (at www.sciam.com)

15:38 <xcamel> interesting

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15:41 <efc> so matter is the like the mole on Cindy Crawford?

15:42 <xcamel> antimatter is the mole, the real matter is Cindy.

15:42 <Excelsi0r> Hoping the LHC will some day be started

15:43 <xcamel> However,  annihilation would be fun while it lasted..

15:44 <Excelsi0r> yeah, and a lots of bastards would be killed, which is good

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15:44 <efc> Imagine all the early matter that was Anniliated. Now, imagine it in the form of light sweet crude.

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15:47 * efc schedules the invasion of creation

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15:54 <efc> These scientists on sci-fi are great. They make random passionate guesses, in the best tradition of the scientific method.

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16:01 <PovAddict> Didactylos: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46181&nowrap=true#734870

16:01 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5kg8sj> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

16:05 <Didactylos> I don't crunch for SETI.

16:06 <PovAddict> so? Paul is talking about BOINC documentation in general

16:06 <Didactylos> Perhaps you could let them know that the email address for WCG is support@worldcommunitygrid.org

16:06 <Didactylos> Staff email addresses are private.

16:06 <PovAddict> oh that too

16:07 <PovAddict> thanks

16:07 <PovAddict> but I was pointing you to a different post in that thread

16:07 <Didactylos> Yes, I'm still reading.

16:10 <Didactylos> Did anyone redirect his how-tos?

16:10 <PovAddict> not recently, for sure

16:10 <PovAddict> I look at recent changes all the time

16:11 <PovAddict> "how to" are all words too short to appear in the search engine - argh

16:12 <PovAddict> they Work For Me

16:12 <PovAddict> http://www.boinc-wiki.info/Category:BOINC_%22How-To%22_Guide

16:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/575pg6> (at www.boinc-wiki.info)

16:13 <Didactylos> I went through the official BOINC links page yesterday. 12 dead links, and two incorrct links.

16:15 <efc> Oh no! Its Dr. Scientist!

16:15 <Didactylos> PovAddict: Seems like you are the only one investing time in UBW.

16:16 <PovAddict> I know, trying to change that too

16:16 <Didactylos> I think it's good.

16:16 <PovAddict> ie. trying to get more people...

16:17 <PovAddict> and I should remove all development-related information from it, since it's outdated and redundant with the official wiki

16:17 <Didactylos> It's such a huge, well known resource, that cleaning it up in parallel with the OBW seems the responsible thing to do.

16:17 * PovAddict adds WCG to his forum signature

16:18 <PovAddict> I use a hardcoded list of url => project name

16:18 <PovAddict> I should change it to use the "get project list" RPC to get project names... some day...

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16:21 <mweltin> hey everybody

16:22 <yoyo[RKN]> hi Markus

16:22 <mweltin> hi yoyo

16:22 <mweltin> getting caught up on tsp

16:22 <mweltin> took a break for a while.

16:23 <mweltin> having no end of trouble with the wrapper, well more specificly the workgenerator.

16:23 <yoyo[RKN]> my 3 wrappers wrapping good

16:23 <mweltin> from the command line I can generate work that validates, but building a C++ workgenerator work units fail.

16:23 <mweltin> from the database i can't see a difference between them

16:24 <yoyo[RKN]> I use a perl and 2 shel script work generators

16:25 <mweltin> yeah it looks like it will come to some work around like that.

16:26 <mweltin> I took a week off because I was just pissed off at boinc not working, well really me not being able to get it to work they way I wanted.

16:27 <mweltin> just seems like every time I do an upgrade, and almost every part of making a new app something goes wrong.

16:27 <mweltin> I wish I was a better coder.

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16:32 <mweltin> hey PovAddic1

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16:44 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [03:14:663] Let Me Drown .:. Soundgarden .:. Superunknown .:. Track

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16:56 * efc takes another shot, they just uses nukes as a solution again on scifi

16:57 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [01:07:534] Nothing To Say .:. Soundgarden .:. The A-Sides .:. Track

16:57 <Soul_keeper> they got nothing

17:01 * efc glug glug glug

17:03 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to delete everything in a directory over a day old

17:03 <jackygrahamez> But this is not working

17:03 <jackygrahamez> find . -mtime +1 -exec rm {} \;

17:04 <Soul_keeper> lemme thing

17:04 <Soul_keeper> think

17:04 <DerMeister> I think you should have a look at xargs

17:04 <mweltin> do you need rm{$_} or something

17:04 <PovAddict> don't use -exec rm

17:04 <PovAddict> use -delete

17:04 <mweltin> not $_ but somethign in the {}

17:05 <mweltin> what is the diff PovAddict?  Most of the examples I see on line use -exec rm

17:05 <PovAddict> mweltin: try with a filename containing a special character

17:05 <PovAddict> like a space

17:05 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: did you first test it with "find . -mtime +1" alone, to see if it matched the correct files?

17:06 <Soul_keeper> ls -l --sort=time        sorts by time

17:06 <mweltin> ahhh

17:06 <mweltin> that has ahppened to me a few time

17:06 <jackygrahamez> find . -mtime +1 does not return anything

17:06 <mweltin> got some - in a file name once

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17:06 <mweltin> and rm kept thinking it was a switch

17:07 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: then there's your problem

17:07 <jackygrahamez> Maybe I should reinstall find???

17:07 <PovAddict> something wrong with -mtime

17:07 <jackygrahamez> hmm

17:07 <PovAddict> rtfm :)

17:07 <jackygrahamez> funny thing man find does not work

17:09 <mweltin> the plot thickens

17:09 <jackygrahamez> No that's just the borscht I prepared :-)

17:10 <mweltin> mmmmmm borshct

17:11 <jackygrahamez> ok "man grep" does not work either...I don't have little men in my computer then

17:11 <Soul_keeper> find . -daystart -mtime=+1

17:11 <PovAddict> wtf

17:11 <Soul_keeper> you need the = in there

17:11 <PovAddict> broken man?

17:11 <Soul_keeper> find . -daystart -mtime=+1 |ls -l  --sort=time | head

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17:11 <mweltin> sounds like you should reinstall the os not just find

17:11 <Soul_keeper> should be able to pipe the output thru whatever you want

17:12 <PovAddict> if man doesn't work, your system sounds pretty much b0rked

17:12 <Soul_keeper> nah he's fine

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17:12 <jackygrahamez> I just install man so my men are back

17:12 <Soul_keeper> if problems exist start by upgrading coreutils and mantools

17:13 <Soul_keeper> the coreutils project contains all the essential stuff like ls, rm, etc.

17:13 <jackygrahamez> Thanks for the tip

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17:26 <xcamel> re-re-hi

17:32 <mweltin> PovAddict,  are you going to be around for a while?

17:32 <PovAddict> maybe

17:32 <PovAddict> but busy with a thing or ten

17:32 <mweltin> I'm testing my work generator vs. manual creation.

17:33 <mweltin> no worries, I'll try to keep my questions short, and specific.

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17:35 <jackygrahamez> so this command works for everyone else?

17:35 <jackygrahamez> find . -daystart -mtime=+4 |ls -l --sort=time | head

17:35 <PovAddict> find: invalid predicate `-mtime=+4'

17:37 <PovAddict> find . -daystart -mtime=+4

17:37 <PovAddict> er

17:37 <PovAddict> find . -daystart -mtime +4    #works for me

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17:44 <Soul_keeper> lol i just spent like half an hour writing a fancy menu driven script to do this stuff for you

17:44 <Soul_keeper> obviousely there was a bug ....

17:44 <Soul_keeper> it deleted itself

17:44 <PovAddict> lol

17:44 <PovAddict> pwned

17:45 <Soul_keeper> ./rm-old.sh

17:45 <Soul_keeper> There appears to be 136 files in older than 24hrs:

17:45 <Soul_keeper> 428M .

17:45 <Soul_keeper> that was the last i saw of the poor thing

17:46 <PovAddict> suicide script

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17:50 <jackygrahamez> Thanks Pov

18:01 <Excelsi0r> rofl

18:09 <Excelsi0r> small question : in the manager you only get the last 30 days of data stats. Is it possible to have more than 30 days ?

18:09 <mweltin> there are a million and one stat sites that keep stats for a very long time.

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18:10 <Excelsi0r> I know

18:10 <PovAddict> Excelsi0r: yes there is

18:10 <Excelsi0r> I was asking just to know

18:10 <PovAddict> do you know your way with cc_config,xml?

18:11 <Excelsi0r> Not much. I have never touched it

18:11 <Excelsi0r> Ubuntu :)

18:12 <Excelsi0r> Boinc v 5.10.8

18:12 <PovAddict> I'm not sure where the file goes if you installed boinc with apt...

18:13 <PovAddict> /etc/boinc-client/cc_config.xml

18:13 <Excelsi0r> I misunderstood your question, yes I know where is cc_config.xml

18:13 <PovAddict> looks like it already exists :o

18:13 <Romulus> and the ps man page

18:13 <PovAddict> what does it have inside? (paste it in http://www.pastebin.ca/)

18:13 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - simplified internet collaboration (at www.pastebin.ca)

18:15 <Excelsi0r> http://www.pastebin.ca/973080

18:15 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - cc_config.xml - post number 973080 (at www.pastebin.ca)

18:15 <PovAddict> ok, between <options> and </options>, add <save_stats_days>60</save_stats_days>

18:15 <PovAddict> that will make it save two months

18:16 <Excelsi0r> okay, thanks

18:17 <Soul_keeper> w00t my bloated script works now ...

18:18 <Excelsi0r> :D

18:18 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/randomscripts/rm_old.sh

18:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5tu8ea> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

18:18 <PovAddict> does it avoid killing itself?

18:18 <Soul_keeper> now it does

18:19 <Soul_keeper> unless it's older than 1 day ... then the gloves come off

18:20 <Excelsi0r> STOP don't need a $ in the line 11 ?

18:21 <Soul_keeper> no

18:21 <Soul_keeper> because it is being initialized

18:21 <Soul_keeper> just as VAR on line 4

18:21 <Excelsi0r> yeah, here i'm ok

18:21 <Excelsi0r> it's the STOP=STOP+1

18:22 <Excelsi0r> don't you want to type STOP=$STOP+1 ?

18:22 <Soul_keeper> you could be right, but it seems to be working here

18:23 <Excelsi0r> well, I'm not a master scripter, it was a general asking, maybe I don't know something about that

18:23 <Soul_keeper> i guess  let   don't care

18:23 <CoderForLife> hello

18:24 <Soul_keeper> hey

18:24 <Excelsi0r> hi

18:24 <CoderForLife> after w@#%ing all day with the Internet team at w@#%, I have a news flash....

18:24 <CoderForLife> IE sux

18:24 <Soul_keeper> :)

18:24 <CoderForLife> Firefox rox

18:25 <mweltin> cfl its a hard lesson but I'm glad you learned it.

18:25 <Excelsi0r> I find Opera better

18:25 <mweltin> better late than never.

18:25 <Soul_keeper> i saw a family of computer noobs using firefox last week, it almost brought a tear to my eye

18:25 <CoderForLife> of course, I use Firefox all the time

18:26 <CoderForLife> IE doesn't know how to do HTTP protocol

18:26 <Soul_keeper> these were people that barely know how to install a game they buy from the store

18:26 <PovAddict> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v512/auron_the_masta/piechart.png

18:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5h9za5> (at img.photobucket.com)

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18:26 <Soul_keeper> shows firefox is making inroads

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18:27 <CoderForLife> I heard the MS is having problems with the IE 8 beta because they made it more standards compliant, and is breaking apps

18:27 <Soul_keeper> MS is too concerned with a hostile takeover of yahoo to worry about IE now

18:28 <PovAddict> check my link

18:28 <Soul_keeper> balmer just gave yahoo management 3 weeks to compile with the takeover offer "or else"

18:28 <Soul_keeper> comply

18:29 <PovAddict> what is "or else"?

18:29 <Soul_keeper> proxy fight

18:29 <CoderForLife> I spent all day using Firefox and tools like TamperData to debug IFE (thx PovAddict)

18:29 <Soul_keeper> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7B89EF233E%2DA6D6%2D4603%2D9E82%2D6DE70EBFA27C%7D&siteid=rss

18:29 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6qvd8c> (at www.marketwatch.com)

18:30 <Soul_keeper> basically a hostile takeover

18:30 <Soul_keeper> buy enough shares to where you can have the say in who has the say about whether they get bought out or not

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18:30 <CoderForLife> you will be assimilated

18:31 <Soul_keeper> yup

18:31 <PovAddict> I still don't understand how somebody can manage to buy something the owner isn't willing to sell

18:32 <CoderForLife> because the owners are the shareholders

18:32 <mweltin> they are publicly traded and can't bar someone from buying shares.

18:32 <CoderForLife> right

18:33 <mweltin> once you own a majority of the shares you can have a mjority rule over the board of directors decisions.

18:34 <CoderForLife> I'm well-toasted for today - cya folks back here soon

18:36 <mweltin> later

18:46 <efc> They probably can't buy 51% on the open market

18:47 <efc> Not without driving the price through the roof in trying

18:47 <mweltin> MS has money to burn, besides you dont' always need 51%

18:47 <mweltin> you need just enough of a say to mess things up.

18:48 <efc> Yeah I think something like 5% gets you a board seat

18:48 <mweltin> if you have 30 and someone else you can influence has 10, and someone else has 10

18:48 <efc> Or at least a considerable block of votes

18:48 <mweltin> you ccan work against the better interest of the company as a whole.

18:49 <efc> I get proxy vote stuff in the mail occasionally.. "Please vote! You can choose option A or .. option A

18:49 <xcamel> sounds too much like w*&K - knock it off.

18:50 * efc never sends those back

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19:04 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:05:35)

19:04 <KathrynM> moanin'

19:06 <Excelsi0r> oy

19:07 <KathrynM> that's how I feel

19:07 <Excelsi0r> errr

19:08 * Excelsi0r checks in the Robert&Collins

19:09 <Excelsi0r> ow, i see, that bad ?

19:09 <KathrynM> nah, that good.  I felt a hell of a lot worse yesterday

19:12 <PovAddict> hey K

19:12 <Excelsi0r> new day, same shit...

19:12 <wdsmia> asks Excelsi0r to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:12 <PovAddict> I heard you took the gp to school?

19:12 <Excelsi0r> wdsmia: I'll be careful

19:12 <PovAddict> how did the little animal react with all those other "little animals"?

19:13 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:13 <KathrynM> she's been traumatized

19:13 <PovAddict> lol

19:13 <Excelsi0r> poor little furry ball

19:13 <KathrynM> I held her while the human animals petted her.

19:14 <KathrynM> the consensus was that she is cute.

19:14 <PovAddict> they were probably all like "awwwwwww"

19:14 <PovAddict> and she was probably like "OMG take me out of here"

19:14 <PovAddict> "I wanna go home"

19:14 <KathrynM> she tried crawling up my shirt sleeve a couple times

19:15 <KathrynM> I have a few nice scratches on my arm from that

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19:15 <PovAddict> LOL @ a comment on your blog

19:15 <PovAddict> "I just figured out you have more than one blog. Wheres the caffeine?"

19:16 <Romulus> Can anyone's computer render this smoothly? http://www.bloonsworld.com/play/1134103

19:16 <KathrynM> where was that?

19:16 <Romulus> or what drives many of the ATA crowd

19:16 <PovAddict> on the Sparkler post

19:16 <KathrynM> on the teaching blog?

19:16 <PovAddict> yep

19:17 <xcamel> will the gp sue for damages and mental anguish?

19:17 <KathrynM> Ive already found a good therapist for her

19:17 <xcamel> oh good.

19:17 <xcamel> 'the guinea whisperer"

19:18 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 133mm to inches

19:18 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: 133mm is not a valid unit.

19:18 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 133 m to inches

19:18 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 5236.22047244

19:18 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 133 mmto inches

19:18 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Error: mmto is not a valid unit.

19:18 <Rookie_69> GP's suffer mental anguish just being fed.

19:18 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 133 mm to inches

19:18 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 5.23622047244

19:18 <KathrynM> especially if you neglect to give them their favorite food

19:18 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 397 mm to inches

19:18 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 15.6299212598

19:18 <xcamel> 5 1/4" dans

19:18 <xcamel> er fans even

19:18 <xcamel> keys moving around again...

19:19 <KathrynM> ah so my telekinesis experiment is working

19:19 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 10 inches to mm

19:19 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 254

19:20 <Rookie_69> ?me thinks it was a freudian slip.

19:20 <xcamel> leave frued out of it..

19:20 <Rookie_69> That telekenisis is working here too.

19:21 * Rookie_69 wonders what freud was doing wearing a slip.

19:22 * xcamel needed some cookies

19:24 * KathrynM quite possibly needs some friends with sanity

19:25 <Rookie_69> None of those here. Sorry.

19:28 <Rookie_69> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanity Now I'm even more confused.

19:28 <Romulus> Title: Sanity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

19:34 <xcamel> we got rid of the Sanity Clause

19:35 <KathrynM> what?  You killed Santa Claus?

19:39 <Rookie_69> He was an illegal alien.

19:40 <Rookie_69> Shot crossing the border.

19:40 <Rookie_69> Smuggling venison...

19:41 <Rookie_69> Didn't declare all those toys... said they were all presents.

19:41 <xcamel> and aphrodisiac horn powder

19:42 <Rookie_69> Called the Border guard a Ho...

19:42 <Romulus> They could give them free 1 generation seed until their native stocks are gone, then charge

19:42 <mweltin> so general question, looking for enterprise level server suggestions.

19:42 <Rookie_69> ... three times.

19:42 <mweltin> bidding on a big job here in AS need two servers

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20:20 <xcamel> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article3689881.ece

20:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/59xql3> (at www.timesonline.co.uk)

20:35 <Excel|eating> When I read things like that, I'm telling myself "Why are you making your cheap AMD 3500+ work for research ?"

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20:37 <mweltin> PovAddict, there is something about the commandline args that are not being passed.

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20:37 <PovAddict> mweltin: well go ask in boinc_projects

20:38 <mweltin> ok

20:38 <PovAddict> I never used the wrapper

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20:50 <Rookie_69> That must have been quite the meal... or you had to do the dishes.

20:50 <PovAddict> or he didn't run back to IRC as soon as he finished...

20:51 <Rookie_69> What!?!

20:51 <Rookie_69> No way!

20:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:54 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... Scar Warts is on Spike ..

21:01 <Excelsior> I was long because I had a tooth extraction last week

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21:01 <PovAddict> AAAGH

21:01 * PovAddict hides under the desk at the mention of "tooth extraction"

21:02 * KathrynM is terrified of that d word

21:02 <Romulus> and Windows Server 2003 SP2

21:02 <KathrynM> yes rommie and Windows Server 2003 SP2

21:02 * KathrynM shakes head

21:02 <KathrynM> oh well.  I"m going to go back to bed

21:02 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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21:03 <Excelsior> KathrynM: that's not a d-something which did it to me

21:03 <PovAddict> :|

21:04 <PovAddict> a fist?

21:04 <Excelsior> no a stomatologist

21:04 * Rookie_69 thinks all dentists have to watch Little Shop of Horrors during school...

21:05 <KathrynM> too much d-word talk here

21:05 <KathrynM> i'm outta here

21:06 <Rookie_69> Pulling teeth is kinda like pulling teeth...

21:06 <PovAddict> painful

21:08 <Excelsior> painful after

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21:09 <Rookie_69> Getting used to wearing a partial plate is more of a pain.

21:12 <Rookie_69> Must be something like wearing a bra... Not comfortable, but you don't look quite right without it...

21:12 <Rookie_69> err... it's something like wearing a bra must be...

21:13 * Rookie_69 doesn't usually wear a bra.

21:13 <Excelsior> wear bra if you want to

21:14 <PovAddict> http://tnmshouse.com/phpBB/images/avatars/gallery/Group_five/avatar_3352.gif (NSFW)

21:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6gkvda> (at tnmshouse.com)

21:18 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Attack of the Clones... I must have slept through most of this movie...

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21:25 <Rookie_69> "A guy can only be called "Annie" so many times before he snaps"... SpikeTV makes some sense for a change.

21:36 * Rookie_69 wonders how many North Americans realise that the Energizer Bunny is a parody of the European Duracell Bunny...

21:37 * Rookie_69 has TV playing on the sidelines.

21:40 * PovAddict is staring at some Code

21:41 <Rookie_69> edoC si drah ot erats ta.

21:41 <Rookie_69> Wrong type of code.

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21:52 * Excelsior didn't know about the energizer bunny, whatever, he prefers Varta

21:58 <PovAddict> I just attached to six projects at once :)

21:58 <PovAddict> made a script to run lookup_account and project_attach automatically

21:59 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/attach.png now they all show "project initialization", until the client manages to do a scheduler request to each

21:59 <Excelsior> that makes a certain amount of projects

22:00 <PovAddict> what

22:00 <PovAddict> some people attach 40 projects at once

22:00 <Excelsior> O_o

22:00 <PovAddict> I detach from them while I'm not crunching, instead of leaving them around set to "no more work"

22:00 <PovAddict> helps keep my debts sane

22:00 * Excelsior smiles

22:01 <PovAddict> now I just went through the projects where I have accounts but zero credits, and attached almost all of them :)

22:01 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/debt.php <- my project long term debts

22:01 <Romulus> Title: Debt tweaking (at stuff.povaddict.com.ar)

22:03 <PovAddict> whoops, gotta add the new projects to my sig -> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/b-sigw.png

22:07 <Excelsior> well I'm off

22:07 <Excelsior> gotta join back my bed

22:08 <Excelsior> have a nice day/evening/night (pick one)

22:09 <PovAddict> Hydrogen@home has some big input files

22:12 <PovAddict> now my machine is doing ABC and LHC; interesting to see those debts go down

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23:15 <PovIpod> Didactylos: you around?

23:18 <Rookie_69> 'me asks PovIpod to kindly watch his/her language. Thank you... Lol.

23:19 <Rookie_69> Stupid keys...

23:19 <PovIpod> what did I say??

23:19 <Rookie_69> Didactylos. Must be profane somewhere...

23:20 <Rookie_69> ;-)

23:22 * wdsmia slaps Rookie_69 around with a large Trout

23:23 * Rookie_69 fries the large trout.

23:24 * Rookie_69 adds lemon and slivered almonds.

23:24 * Rookie_69 drools.

23:33 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

23:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 51.1F / 10.6C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 2.2mph / 3.5km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 40s. Southeast wind around 15 mph.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the morning... then a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the (1 more message)

23:33 <wdsmia> &more

23:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: lower 60s. South wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Colder. Low in the mid 30s. West wind around 10 mph.;

23:34 <PovIpod> the weather channel

23:34 <Didactylos> You rang?

23:35 <PovIpod> DA replied on boinc_dec

23:35 <PovIpod> dev* (stupid autocorrect)

23:35 <Romulus> now I get off with me this time

23:36 <Didactylos> I saw.

23:37 <PovIpod> bah I need a real keyboard

23:37 <PovIpod> brb sneaking back to computer

23:37 <CoderForLife> 'evenin'

23:38 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

23:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.3F / 7.9C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Overnight - Clear. Lows around 40. East winds around 5 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.;

23:41 <PovAddict> this might be dangerous

23:43 <Didactylos> Dangerous how?

23:43 <PovAddict> sneaking back to computer I mean

23:43 <Didactylos> Where are you?

23:43 <Romulus> Rumor has it you are upper fayl, Didactylos

23:44 <PovAddict> parents think (and expect) I'm asleep

23:47 <efc> Zzzz

23:47 <Rookie_69> NN.

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23:57 <d00m1001> \(_o)/

23:57 <d00m1001> wHEW

23:57 <d00m1001> Finally

23:57 <d00m1001> Done recording.

23:57 <PovAddict> ?

23:58 <d00m1001> Recording music

23:58 <d00m1001> Turned one of my rooms into a studio basically :s

23:58 <d00m1001> Just recently finished up this new piece

23:58 <d00m1001> Me and a good friend have been working on.

23:58 <d00m1001> Trying to combine a lot of different genres into something new.

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