IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-04-09

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00:20 <zombie67> ugh..windows updates

00:21 <cactaur> Well, the only thing scarier than updating windows is not updating windows.

00:22 <zombie67> *Snort*

00:22 <zombie67> trvth!

00:22 <zombie67> so, I have 6 security/manditory, and one optional.

00:23 <zombie67> any news about bandess?

00:23 <zombie67> badness

00:27 <zombie67> aaaaand there it is....restart required

00:31 <Tank_Master> funny

00:31 <Tank_Master> I only had 3 updats, all office, no reboot

00:32 <zombie67> this was xp32

00:32 <Tank_Master> ahh

00:32 <Tank_Master> xp in is inferior to server 2008

00:32 <zombie67> we're all going stright to win 7 anyway

00:32 <Tank_Master> lol

00:33 <zombie67> Vista was just a trial

00:33 <Tank_Master> I just downloaded the alpha build, but havent gotten a chance to install it yet

00:33 <zombie67> Yep, 6+1 for Xp63 too

00:33 <zombie67> XP64

00:33 <Tank_Master> though I hear its not much different yet from vista

00:34 <zombie67> cels will make this tricky

00:34 <zombie67> ufluids too

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00:34 <zombie67> MT!

00:34 <MTughan> Yep, it be me...

00:34 <MTughan> My dad took my laptop until June... >_>

00:35 <zombie67> OUCHH!!

00:35 <zombie67> you FU with school?

00:35 <MTughan> 40% in Philosophy.

00:35 <zombie67> But that's relative!

00:35 <zombie67> ;)

00:35 <MTughan> Because all the marks in the course are about learning about a philosopher, not actually doing philosophy.

00:36 <zombie67> so how are you here now?

00:36 <MTughan> I have two computers, remember?

00:36 <zombie67> heh.  so how is that a punishment?

00:36 <MTughan> Although while I was bored in Math class today, I sketched out something what I'd like my BOINC Manager to look like.

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00:36 <MTughan> I'm not supposed to be on IRC right now.

00:37 <zombie67> ah

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00:37 <zombie67> there is nothing going on here now.

00:37 <zombie67> not worth risking.

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00:37 <MTughan> Pov's gone to bed at a respectable time? :P

00:38 <zombie67> guess so.  he's been quiet for a while nw

00:38 <zombie67> now

00:38 <MTughan> 35 minutes, Freenode says.

00:39 <MTughan> &seen PovAddict

00:39 <Romulus> MTughan: PovAddict was last seen in #boinc 2 hours, 22 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <PovAddict> since you're such a usenetter, what do you think of a post that gets edited all the time? that *is* abusing it as a wiki page...

00:39 <MTughan> So not here.

00:39 * zombie67 no lie

00:39 <Romulus> That's what I have a few questions

00:40 <MTughan> Rommie's useful, but the Markov alone sometimes makes me want to strangle him...

00:40 <zombie67> MT, did you see charlie's post about the new 6.x

00:40 <Tank_Master> agreed

00:40 <MTughan> Yeah, but I haven't downloaded it.

00:40 <MTughan> I don't want to lose my E@H tasks.

00:40 <zombie67> no, I mean about all the issues

00:42 <zombie67> can't upload depspid

00:42 <Tank_Master> haha

00:42 <zombie67> you too?

00:42 <Tank_Master> yep

00:43 <Tank_Master> got .23% uploaded

00:43 <zombie67> maybe he is modifying the sever for >1

00:43 <Tank_Master> shouldnt need to take the server down for that

00:44 <zombie67> dammit, stop Fing with my happy thoughts

00:44 <Tank_Master> yeah, PovAddict

00:44 <zombie67> Now that I got all that extra BWidth

00:44 <MTughan> What I have drawn up in GIMP from what I did today: http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrLayout.png

00:44 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6hqud4> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

00:45 <MTughan> I think it'll look better once I get something like it in an actual GUI.

00:46 <MTughan> I just did ABC and LHC to show where projects would go.

00:46 <zombie67> don't forget about being able select all and update/abort/whateverr

00:46 <MTughan> You'll be able to do multiple select, don't worry.

00:46 <zombie67> And being able to select all-but-this-one

00:47 <MTughan> That'll have to be a menu item, but yes.

00:47 <zombie67> riteous

00:47 <MTughan> Cmd-Opt-A probably.

00:47 <MTughan> Cmd-A for Select All, Cmd-Opt-A for Select Others.

00:48 <MTughan> BTW, those buttons at the top are a toolbar. I

00:48 <MTughan> ..'m thinking I'll move them though, and do stuff like attach project and suspend up there.

00:51 <zombie67> And 6+1+1 for AMD boxes

00:51 <zombie67> windows sucks the massive tool

00:51 <wdsmia> asks zombie67 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

00:52 <zombie67> brb

00:54 <MTughan> There, that background for the window is better. It was 60% alpha white, now it's 70% alpha gray.

00:54 <Tank_Master> lol

00:54 <MTughan> BTW, I didn't make the Get Info icon either. I stole it from the Finder.

00:54 <zombie67> I like buttons

00:55 <Tank_Master> you didnt steal it

00:55 <Tank_Master> you implimented it

00:55 <zombie67> A "update all" button is awesome

00:55 <zombie67> An

00:55 <MTughan> You'll be able to do Select All, Update.

00:56 <zombie67> a button for all of that would be better

00:56 <Tank_Master> it was nice whan the standard BOINc manager has an update all function

00:56 <Tank_Master> had*

00:56 <MTughan> Also, another thing I thought of is have the progress bars for tasks also show the progress for uploads and downloads.

00:56 <MTughan> In addition to task progress. Reduces some clutter.

00:57 <MTughan> Wow, I should be going to bed... 12:57AM.

00:57 <zombie67> hah!  the AMD update was released from them in aug 2007.  just now hitting msft update

00:57 <MTughan> lol, nice...

00:58 <MTughan> Anyway, I'm off.

00:58 <Tank_Master> gn

00:58 <zombie67> gn

00:58 <MTughan> Good talking to you zombie.

00:58 <zombie67> kb 317498

00:58 <Tank_Master> slacker

00:58 <MTughan> And you TM. :P

00:58 <Tank_Master> ;)

00:58 <zombie67> don't get caught!

01:00 <zombie67> customizable toolbar

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01:01 <zombie67> with choices for a LOT of buttons

01:02 <zombie67> all mac apps have that

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01:50 <Soul_keeper> hmmm opening my front door caused my cpu temp to drop 10c  ...

01:50 <Soul_keeper> fun

01:52 <Soul_keeper> made the "command not found" go away, and made the critical gtk error on results go away

01:52 <Soul_keeper> wrong chan ...

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02:23 <MacG> just in case anyone was wondering, the Zalman 9700 heatsink is *amazing*

02:24 <MacG> at least compared to the stock AMD heatsink. 50C -> 27C under full load on my phenom

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02:54 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

02:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 65.0°F / 18.3°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 8.1mph / 13.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms late. Lows in the mid 50s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the (1 more message)

02:54 <CoderForLife> &more

02:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear in the evening...then partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. Northwest winds around 5 mph... becoming northeast after midnight. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

03:03 <CoderForLife> morning any and all

03:04 <efc> moo

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03:20 <CoderForLife> http://www.happynews.com/news/482008/god-particle-expected-found-soon.htm

03:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5k3kxg> (at www.happynews.com)

03:20 <CoderForLife> moo rfc

03:20 <CoderForLife> ack

03:20 <CoderForLife> moo efc

03:20 <CoderForLife> I will accept "request for comments" as well

03:20 <Romulus> Now, they can call it a week from order

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03:23 <efc> zzzz

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03:33 <CoderForLife> sleep well efc

03:37 <efc> Getting a sore throat :/

03:37 <CoderForLife> un-good

03:37 <CoderForLife> don't do that

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03:42 <efc> I've been listening to the Grand Theft Auto soundtrack

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03:44 <CoderForLife> I've been listening to the sound of money flushing down the toilet

03:44 <efc> How does that sound?

03:45 <CoderForLife> very bad

03:46 <CoderForLife> it's not just the sucking sound of the money, it's the primal whining that goes with it

03:58 * efc would like to flush some money

04:09 <CoderForLife> it's very easy

04:10 <CoderForLife> you barely have to put your mind to it

04:10 <CoderForLife> almost happends naturally

04:11 <CoderForLife> in my case, it's all about Nature

04:12 <efc> Oh I was thinking real estate, its the anti-nature

04:13 <CoderForLife> my real estate is slipping down the hill

04:13 <CoderForLife> I was blaming Mother Nature

04:14 * CoderForLife remembers the first thing we do around here is assign blame

04:30 <efc> I blame someone else

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04:59 <KathrynM> hey CoderForLife, did you send the rain to Korea?

05:00 <CoderForLife> I'm trying to give it away to anyone I can

05:01 <CoderForLife> you like?

05:02 <KathrynM> I've finially dried out from my walk in the rain earlier.

05:04 <CoderForLife> is that a good or bad thing?

05:05 <KathrynM> just a thing.

05:06 <KathrynM> I bought birthday presents and a bunch of postcards.

05:06 <CoderForLife> I see this is going to be one of "those days" - can't pin you down

05:06 <CoderForLife> nosiree

05:06 <CoderForLife> like mercury

05:06 <KathrynM> lol

05:06 <CoderForLife> like jello

05:07 <KathrynM> pudding

05:07 * KathrynM cries

05:07 <CoderForLife> ah. like my brain

05:07 <KathrynM> my mum sent a box

05:07 <KathrynM> she put a package of mint chococate latte stuff in it.

05:07 <KathrynM> it exploded all over the box

05:07 <KathrynM> so now I don't have any mint chocolate latte stuff

05:08 <CoderForLife> I'm watching some rain of my own move in

05:08 <CoderForLife> http://cctvimedia.clearchannel.com/wkrc/weather/13.jpg

05:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5gz35h> (at cctvimedia.clearchannel.com)

05:08 <KathrynM> yuck yuck yuck :(

05:09 <KathrynM> hmmmm.... predicting winds of 50mph tomorrow

05:10 <KathrynM> should be fun.  will probably blow at least one child away

05:10 <CoderForLife> it's nothing to laugh about...  =)

05:10 <KathrynM> lol

05:10 <KathrynM> oh puke.

05:10 <CoderForLife> or would that be "n'yuck"?

05:10 <KathrynM> they've got a news story on bout the korean astronaut.

05:11 <KathrynM> they're playing "hero" in the background.

05:11 <CoderForLife> there's one?  and just one?

05:11 <KathrynM> the one that went to the space station

05:11 <KathrynM> actually it was the backup.  the first one broke training security or something

05:11 * CoderForLife acts ignorant of current events

05:12 <KathrynM> it's on the news right now.  too bad the news is in Korean

05:12 <KathrynM> I was just too lazy to get up and turn off the tv

05:12 <CoderForLife> yeah, that wouldn't do very well here either

05:13 <KathrynM> 'and lift-off'

05:14 <KathrynM> (again)

05:14 <desti> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yi_So-yeon

05:14 <Romulus> Title: Yi So-yeon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

05:15 <KathrynM> an old maid

05:15 <KathrynM> 28 and unmarried

05:15 <CoderForLife> "yes, sow yer own"?

05:17 <CoderForLife> I can't make heads or tails of the pronunciation guide

05:18 <KathrynM> I think it's yee sew yawn

05:18 <KathrynM> I'm not very good with it

05:18 <KathrynM> but yawn isn't quite right

05:18 <CoderForLife> better than I, but then again, you have more incentive

05:18 <KathrynM> it's a more clipped sound

05:18 <CoderForLife> y s y?

05:19 <KathrynM> ;)

05:19 <KathrynM> I can puzzle it out with a lot of work.

05:19 <KathrynM> I'm one of those ugly americans with my couple dozen words and phrases

05:19 <Romulus> I miss PovRay, though.

05:19 <KathrynM> awwwwwwwwwwwww poor Romulus

05:19 <CoderForLife> the world is full of us U.A.s

05:20 <KathrynM> I try to be polite.  First things I learned to say were please and thank you.

05:20 <CoderForLife> sure

05:21 <KathrynM> chu-say-o and kam-sam-me-dah

05:21 <KathrynM> pffffffffffftttttttttttttttt

05:21 <CoderForLife> well, I need to drag my sorry carcass off to w@#%

05:21 <CoderForLife> saw-ree car-cuss

05:22 <KathrynM> lol

05:22 <KathrynM> have fun (not)

05:22 <CoderForLife> ty - it's a losing cause

05:22 <CoderForLife> ttfn

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06:29 <hawmps> ip kill >> 216.193.250.180

06:31 <hawmps> also 221.130.185.182

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06:59 <CoderForLife> a busy ip morning

07:02 <CoderForLife> blocked/kerplinked - thx

07:16 <hawmps> seems so..

07:46 <CoderForLife> wall guy came by last night - they'll be back as soon as possible this week (after the rain) to dig a test pit

07:55 <CoderForLife> &urbandict paul

07:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.

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07:55 <CoderForLife> &dict paul

07:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: gazetteer, gcide, easton, wn, hitchcock, moby-thes, and gaz-place responded: hitchcock: Paul, small; little; gcide: Paul \Paul\, n. See {Pawl}. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Paul \Paul\, n. An Italian silver coin. See {Paolo}. [1913 Webster]; gazetteer: Paul, ID (city, FIPS 61210) Location: 42.60644 N, 113.78239 W Population (1990): 901 (361 housing units) Area: 0.8 sq km (land), (50 more messages)

07:56 <CoderForLife> &more

07:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 0.0 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 83347; moby-thes: 29 Moby Thesaurus words for "Paul": Ambrose of Milan, Athanasius, Barnabas, Basil, Clement of Alexandria, Clement of Rome, Cyprian of Carthage, Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory of Nyssa, Hermas, Ignatius, Irenaeus, Jerome, John, John Chrysostom, Justin Martyr, Lactantius Firmianus, Luke, Mark, Origen, Papias, Peter, Polycarp, Tertullian, ante-Nicene (49 more messages)

07:56 <citybir1> hey

07:56 <CoderForLife> &more

07:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Fathers, apostle, disciple, evangelist, saint; wn: Paul n 1: United States feminist (1885-1977) [syn: {Alice Paul}] 2: (New Testament) a Christian missionary to the Gentiles; author of several Epistles in the New Testament; even though Paul was not present at the Last Supper he is considered an apostle; "Paul's name was Saul prior to his conversion to Christianity" [syn: {Saint Paul}, {St. (48 more messages)

07:56 <CoderForLife> &more

07:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Paul}, {Apostle Paul}, {Paul the Apostle}, {Apostle of the Gentiles}, {Saul}, {Saul of Tarsus}]; gaz-place: Paul, ID -- U.S. city in Idaho Population (2000): 998 Housing Units (2000): 430 Land area (2000): 0.639989 sq. miles (1.657565 sq. km) Water area (2000): 0.012983 sq. miles (0.033626 sq. km) Total area (2000): 0.652972 sq. miles (1.691191 sq. km) FIPS code: 61210 Located within: Idaho (47 more messages)

07:56 <citybir1> when i try to use  boinc_cmd --lookup_account http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ i get retval: 0

07:56 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

07:56 <CoderForLife> &more

07:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: (ID), FIPS 16 Location: 42.606349 N, 113.783235 W ZIP Codes (1990): 83347 Note: some ZIP codes may be omitted esp. for suburbs. Headwords: Paul, ID Paul; gcide: Pawl \Pawl\, n. [W. pawl a pole, a stake. Cf. {Pole} a stake.] (Mach.) A pivoted tongue, or sliding bolt, on one part of a machine, adapted to fall into notches, or interdental spaces, on another part, as a ratchet wheel, in such a (46 more messages)

07:57 <CoderForLife> &more

07:57 <Romulus> CoderForLife: manner as to permit motion in one direction and prevent it in the reverse, as in a windlass; a catch, click, or detent. See Illust. of {Ratchet Wheel}. [Written also {paul}, or {pall}.] [1913 Webster] {Pawl bitt} (Naut.), a heavy timber, set abaft the windlass, to receive the strain of the pawls. {Pawl rim} or {Pawl ring} (Naut.), a stationary metallic ring surrounding the base of a capstan, (45 more messages)

07:57 <Romulus> zombie67: Think I should do the work. He would just be sure he give a crap about the commandline arguemnt via the workunit template persepective?

07:58 <citybir1> anyone?

07:59 <KathrynM> sorry,  I've not used boinc_cmd

08:00 <citybir1> ive used it before with success so im not sure why it's not working now.

08:06 <hawmps> citybir1: boinc_cmd --lookup_account might be depricated

08:12 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

08:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 42.8°F / 6.0°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Areas of light rain in the morning...then a slight chance of rain in the afternoon. Highs around 55. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of rain. Lows around 40. Southwest wind 5 to (1 more message)

08:12 <Tank_Master> &more

08:12 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 15 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers in the morning. Highs around 60. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the west in the afternoon.;

08:13 <hawmps> jumping in on the 'weathergasm'...

08:13 <hawmps> &wx 12020

08:13 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 44.6°F / 7.0°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. A 30 percent chance of showers. Lows in the mid 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - (1 more message)

08:13 <hawmps> &more

08:13 <Romulus> hawmps: Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 4:00 PM EDT on April 12, 2008;

08:13 <Tank_Master> sad

08:13 <Tank_Master> flood watch from a 30% chance of showers?

08:14 <Tank_Master> Id call that a sunny day ;)

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08:28 <hawmps> flood watch from melting the remaining snow in the woods...

08:31 <Tank_Master> ahh

08:39 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:39 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 29.7°F / -1.3°C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Freezing Fog | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Not as cool. Areas of dense fog early in the morning. High in the upper 50s. North wind around 5 mph shifting to the east in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers likely and isolated thunderstorms (2 more messages)

08:39 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:39 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: after midnight. Low around 40. East wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent.; Thursday - Showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Breezy. High in the upper 40s. East wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Dense Fog Advisory for Polk County in effect until (1 more message)

08:39 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:39 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: 9:00 AM CDT on April 09, 2008;

08:40 <citybir1> hawmps: where is the latest info?

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09:50 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

09:59 <hawmps> check the various wiki pages..

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10:26 <PovAddict> citybir1: you still around?

10:46 <citybir1> PovAddict: hey

10:47 <PovAddict> did you manage to attach?

11:18 <hawmps> lhc is dishing work again...

11:19 <PovAddict> 09/04/2008 12:18:46|lhcathome|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks

11:19 <PovAddict> sheesh

11:20 <DerMeister> Does anyone know when the "maintanance" at lhc will end?

11:20 <hawmps> hmmm.. i just got a bunch of them..

11:21 <hawmps> what ever happened to pasquale?

11:21 <hawmps> no work in over a week

11:21 <PovAddict> what the hell is my client smoking?

11:22 <PovAddict> the queue got *empty*, and it's not requesting work from any project, even when I force update

11:22 <hawmps> suspend the other projects...

11:22 <PovAddict> which other projects?

11:22 <hawmps> all of them

11:23 <PovAddict> I'm attached to a dozen, forced update on all, and the client always "requested 0 seconds of work"

11:23 <PovAddict> even though it was idle

11:23 <hawmps> except the one you want work for...

11:23 <hawmps> blame that on the stupid debt system..

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11:50 <citybir1> PovAddict: still getting retval: 0

11:53 <citybir1> on machines that i have installed before it works fine.

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12:55 <jackygrahamez> hi folks

13:19 <hawmps> 'lo Jack

13:20 <CoderForLife> an LHC-related link from this morning: http://www.happynews.com/news/482008/god-particle-expected-found-soon.htm

13:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5k3kxg> (at www.happynews.com)

13:20 <hawmps> er lojackĀ® even

13:21 <PovAddict> lol

13:21 <hawmps> ;-)

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13:21 <hawmps> posted the long version from the times.uk yesterday

13:22 <CoderForLife> ah, sorry - didn't see

13:38 <jackygrahamez> I have the answer...42

13:39 <Romulus> you hope a lot off connections at the dates

13:39 <Tank_Master> I though it was 47

13:46 <jackygrahamez> What do you think is a good monthly price to store 100 GBs on a file server without any bandwidth restrictions?

13:47 <Tank_Master> $0.00

13:47 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: what are the files for?

13:47 <Tank_Master> porn?

13:47 <jackygrahamez> I like that price, can I choose Tank as my service provider?

13:47 <Tank_Master> lol

13:47 <jackygrahamez> I got molecules I want to mirror

13:47 <PovAddict> how often will you need to access them?

13:48 <Tank_Master> just as long as I get to copy anything I deam worth to copy

13:48 <jackygrahamez> and those molecules don't have cloths so yes porn

13:48 <PovAddict> do you need HTTP access?

13:48 <Tank_Master> sweet

13:48 <PovAddict> do you need reliability? (for example, final results of BOINC processing doesn't really need reliable storage; if you happen to lose a file, you can always send the work to process again)

13:50 <jackygrahamez> These files should most be static, occasionally updated with rsync, I need reliability so the workunits can use them

13:50 <PovAddict> anyway, what do you think of this pricing? $0.15 per GB-Month of storage, $0.18 per GB of transfer

13:51 <PovAddict> http://aws.amazon.com/s3

13:51 <jackygrahamez> I have to figure out how many GB are transfered in a month

13:51 <Romulus> ...still in our mortgage

13:53 <Tank_Master> $132 for the first month if I upload 400GB? (and by upload, I mean tranfer it once, and not touch it again)

13:54 <PovAddict> no, $100

13:55 <PovAddict> uploading is data going "in" from their standpoint

13:55 <Tank_Master> oh, 10 in

13:55 <Tank_Master> you didnt say that

13:55 <PovAddict> &calc (.10 + .15) * 400

13:55 <jackygrahamez> I see

13:55 <PovAddict> oh wait, the bot has me b&

13:55 <jackygrahamez> Well I think its out of my price range for now

13:55 <DerMeister> In europe it would be more... $112

13:56 <Tank_Master> & math calc (.10 + .15) * 400

13:56 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 100

13:56 <Tank_Master> not bad

13:56 <jackygrahamez> I'll have to wait until I get grants

13:56 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: you just want to mirror WU input files?

13:56 <jackygrahamez> essentially

13:57 <PovAddict> are you having bandwidth problems with your current server already?

13:58 <jackygrahamez> Currently our WU generator downloads from two separate public repositories for molecular data. There are a couple of issues doing this

13:58 <jackygrahamez> It works though

13:58 <jackygrahamez> It would be nice to just have a mirror, but I can do my development without that

13:59 <jackygrahamez> I suppose I could setup a computer at home that hosts the files, but that's going to slow things down

13:59 <jackygrahamez> Another option is to reference the file to download directly from the repository to the client

14:00 <jackygrahamez> If the frequency of workunit generation got too high, it might become a DoS

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14:54 <Lorvija> hey, anyone know javascript here? (:

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14:56 <hawmps> ping Coder in another hour or so..

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14:56 <jackygrahamez> I'm not so good at it either

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15:35 <DerMeister> Oh... there are new DepSpid wus...

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17:00 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:07 <PovAddict> winduhs updates today

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17:19 <xcamel> I noticed my version of RDT "expired" all of the sudden...

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17:49 <xcamel> &wx 12074

17:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 60.9°F / 16.1°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Lows in the upper 40s. South winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Thursday (1 more message)

17:49 <xcamel> &more

17:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 30s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight.; Areal Flood Watch for Saratoga County in effect until 4:00 PM EDT on April 12, 2008;

17:50 <xcamel> not too bad..

17:50 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

17:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 48.2°F / 9.0°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 7.6mph / 12.2km/h ; Tonight - Showers and isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Not as cool. Low around 40. East wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Thursday - Showers and isolated thunderstorms in (2 more messages)

17:50 <wdsmia> &more

17:50 <Romulus> wdsmia: the morning...then showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Breezy. High in the mid 50s. East wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 50 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Thursday Night - Showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of thunderstorms and showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe in the evening. Low in the mid 40s. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph (1 more message)

17:51 <wdsmia> &more

17:51 <Romulus> wdsmia: with gusts to around 40 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.;

17:51 <xcamel> the weather south of you looks like it's getting kinda ugly

17:52 <wdsmia> Hope it stays south till it gets to Ohio ;)

17:54 <Soul_keeper> it sprinkled here today

17:54 <Soul_keeper> only lasted like half an hour twice, about 6hrs appart

17:54 <Soul_keeper> if this is the storm that is headed your way i wouldn't worry ... it's weak

17:54 <Tank_Master> lol

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18:03 <CoderForLife> hello

18:03 <wdsmia> *lo Don

18:03 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

18:03 <CoderForLife> I came home at 3 to work in the yard

18:04 <CoderForLife> needed to clear away those things I don't want wrecked when the guy comes to dig the test hole

18:04 * wdsmia sends large storm to wash away all of CoderForLife's yardwork

18:04 <CoderForLife> man, you are cruel

18:05 <CoderForLife> if it's going to wash away the 50lb rocks from the stone planter that I moved, that would be something

18:06 <CoderForLife> and the gladiolas I dug out and put in the box in the garage

18:07 <CoderForLife> and the planters I carried from the yard up onto the deck

18:07 <wdsmia> http://weather.unisys.com/radar/rad_us_loop.html

18:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5jh887> (at weather.unisys.com)

18:07 <CoderForLife> go take some nice pills and lay down for awhile =)

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18:13 <Ageless> pfff, got away with disaster.

18:13 <Ageless> I just returned to my computer, to find that Windows had popped up two warnings that I had unplugged my optical drives without shutting down the computer.

18:13 <Ageless> both drives were nowhere to be found either, I couldn't eject them either.

18:14 <Ageless> I tried a reboot... but that only got me to a black screen, no restarting computer at all.

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18:15 <Ageless> so I shut down, checked the cables and found that one of the red power cables had worked itself loose and was dangling precariously close to my case... It was the one coming directly from the PSU.

18:16 <Ageless> so although I now have to buy a new PSU anyway (as 3 plugs are unusable due to this), at least I don't have to also buy a new motherboard and whatever else had this cable made contact with the case! :)

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18:37 <Ageless> the wiki coming along? it's slow...

18:38 <PovAddict> slow to load?

18:38 <Ageless> yep

18:38 <PovAddict> works for me(tm)

18:39 * CoderForLife sighs

18:39 <Ageless> lol, it's probably better to be south of the server than to be east of it

18:39 <Ageless> too many people on line between it and me

18:39 * CoderForLife makes a head-long dive for the couch

18:40 <CoderForLife> cya folks

18:41 <Ageless> anyway, I'll offer my help in transfering stuff over from one place to the next.

18:41 <Ageless> but only after I got a new PSU.

18:41 <xcamel> 'lo Jord, don

18:41 <Ageless> it's not much fun to be running with no optical drives

18:42 <xcamel> ip kill >> 81.88.56.18

18:42 <xcamel> Mutiple web server 400 error codes from same source ip

18:42 <PovAddict> 400?

18:43 <PovAddict> maybe trying to exploit webserver bugs with bad requests

18:43 <xcamel> blog breaker script

18:43 <xcamel> that's

18:43 <Ageless> Italian

18:44 <xcamel> '400 series' error codes

18:44 <xcamel> in ossec-speak

18:44 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:54:35)

18:44 <KathrynM> mornin'

18:45 <xcamel> 'lo Kathryn

18:45 <KathrynM> a day off in the middle of the week is nice, but then thursday feels like monday :(

18:46 <Romulus> Yeah, not so good at help

18:46 <KathrynM> tell me something I don

18:46 <KathrynM> I don't know rommie

19:19 <Soul_keeper> anyone happen to have researched what % of watts drawn by a computer ultimately gets converted to heat energy ?

19:20 <Soul_keeper> can you prove it's not over 90% ?

19:20 <PovAddict> where would the other % go?

19:20 <PovAddict> if 90% goes to heat, what does the other 10% get converted to?

19:20 <KathrynM> credits?

19:20 <Romulus> Rumor has it credits are a pain. Have you heard anymore about boinc funding, KathrynM

19:21 <PovAddict> lol KathrynM

19:21 * KathrynM smacks rommie in the harddrive

19:21 <PovAddict> harddrives don't like being smacked :o

19:21 <KathrynM> exactly

19:23 <Ageless> night all.

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19:23 <xcamel> laterz..

19:23 <PovAddict> nigh-- too late

19:23 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, i'm thinking radiation, mechanical energy, etc.

19:24 <PovAddict> radiation should be pretty low

19:24 <xcamel> sexual tension..

19:24 <Soul_keeper> and even then most radiation and mechanical energy can generate heat thru such things as friction

19:24 <PovAddict> mechanical energy (like spinning a fan) would eventually be heat due to friction anyway

19:24 <Soul_keeper> so what maybe 95% or more ultimately becomes heat ?

19:24 <Soul_keeper> is there a flaw in my assumption here ?

19:25 <Soul_keeper> i'm doing calculations for a fridge system

19:25 <PovAddict> the problem isn't really how much electricity gets converted into heat, but how much you can compute per electricity and heat unit :)

19:25 <Soul_keeper> ohhh yeah

19:26 <Soul_keeper> i just need to remove the heat (however much it may be) so i can increase the computing power via a magic thing called "overclocking"

19:26 <PovAddict> heh

19:26 <PovAddict> I wish heat could be easily and efficiently transported

19:27 <Soul_keeper> heat can be recycled back into electricity, they are apparently doing this on cars now

19:27 <PovAddict> to have a whole crunching farm concentrating its generated heat into an oven, for example :D

19:27 <Soul_keeper> it's all just flowing energy ultimately

19:28 <Soul_keeper> we have a long ways to go with tech advancements

19:28 <PovAddict> if you could convert all heat back to whatever usable power, you'd have a perpetual motion machine right there ;)

19:28 <Soul_keeper> :)

19:28 <xcamel> entropy kicks in...

19:28 <Soul_keeper> well i'm sure there will be inefficiency like radiation, magnetism, and other crap we havn't discovered yet

19:29 <PovAddict> of course

19:29 <Soul_keeper> but even 50% efficiciency would be great

19:29 <PovAddict> but I heard a car converts 90% of fuel power into heat, and 10% into motion (probably not that bad on modern cars though)

19:29 <Soul_keeper> anyways i gotta go

19:29 <Soul_keeper> yeah i heard the same thing

19:30 <Soul_keeper> crazy stuff, ttyl

19:30 <PovAddict> bye

19:30 <Soul_keeper> also only like 3% of the fuel energy is used to move the occupants of the average car ...

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19:40 <corky> Is it possible to run boinc without an GUI?

19:40 <corky> (in an CLI)

19:40 <PovAddict> on Linux? you can surely run it on headless machines without even X

19:41 <corky> on linux PovAddict ;-P

19:41 <corky> what binary do i need to execute?

19:41 <PovAddict> BOINC Manager (the GUI) just shows you what the CLI client is doing :)

19:41 <PovAddict> well, what distro, and how did you install BOINC?

19:41 <corky> well, debian etch, PS: its my "Server" which isn't doing anything

19:42 <corky> and i just downed the .sh and bashed it

19:42 <corky> lol, strange word, bash, :P, "Bashed it" :P

19:42 <PovAddict> run ./boinc --daemon

19:43 <PovAddict> then tail -f stdoutdae.txt, to check if it's working

19:43 <PovAddict> (or was it .log?)

19:43 <corky> ./boinc: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by ./boinc)

19:43 <corky> what ever, we'll see then ^^

19:43 <PovAddict> oh erm

19:43 <PovAddict> what's the .sh called?

19:44 <corky> boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

19:44 <PovAddict> (I'd have expected etch to have a newer glibc)

19:44 <corky> "ubuntu", T_T

19:44 <PovAddict> get http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh

19:44 <PovAddict> it's compiled against older libraries, so it should work on your machine

19:44 <corky> is it an older version?

19:44 <corky> no, it isnt lol

19:44 <PovAddict> no, it's the latest version, linked to older system libraries :)

19:45 <PovAddict> (that done doesn't even *come* with the GUI, but you won't use the GUI anyway, so it's fine)

19:45 <corky> gui's just suck :P

19:45 <Didactylos> Does the new BOINC wiki need registration?

19:45 <corky> CLI's are what we want in linux :P

19:45 <PovAddict> Didactylos: I think you can edit anonymously

19:45 <corky> btw PovAddict,

19:45 <PovAddict> (except the front page)

19:46 <corky> how can i connect my boinc to my boinc account?

19:46 <corky> in the CLI?

19:46 <Didactylos> I mean, someone mentioned single-sign-on.

19:46 <PovAddict> corky: well first get it running, then I'll show you how to attach projects and stuff

19:46 <PovAddict> Didactylos: it's currently using standard mediawiki login, not the linked-to-BOINC-login system

19:46 <corky> 10-Apr-2008 03:51:50 [---] Running CPU benchmarks

19:46 <PovAddict> corky: good :)

19:47 <corky> 10-Apr-2008 03:52:21 [---]    789 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU

19:47 <corky> 10-Apr-2008 03:52:21 [---]    2137 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

19:47 <corky> :)

19:47 <PovAddict> ./boinc_cmd --lookup_account http://project_url/ your@email.com yourpassword

19:48 <PovAddict> that will give you your authenticator (which is more private than your password, *don't* paste it here!)

19:48 <PovAddict> then: ./boinc_cmd --project_attach http://project_url/ the-long-authenticator-key

19:48 <corky> PovAddict, err.. you don't honestly think i am That high end user? :P

19:48 <PovAddict> corky: better to be safe than to be sorry, I saw more than a few users pasting the output of lookup_account into the channel

19:49 <PovAddict> and having it publicly logged by Romulus :)

19:49 <corky> xP

19:49 <corky> can i do ./boinc_cmd --project_attach http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/ blablabla blablabla

19:49 <corky> ?

19:49 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

19:50 <corky> Romulus, yes i know :P

19:50 <Romulus> I don't know!

19:50 <PovAddict> no, --project_attach takes an auth key

19:50 <corky> Romulus, hello!

19:50 <Romulus> No idea.

19:50 <corky> Romulus, dancE!

19:50 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno!

19:50 <corky> :P

19:50 <Romulus> 2 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW WITH LIGHT ICE ACCUMULATIONS ARE POSSIBLE BY FRIDAY

19:50 <PovAddict> &alias add dance action dances :D/-<

19:51 <PovAddict> ...I keep forgetting the bot has me banned

19:52 <corky> err PovAddict

19:52 <corky> 10-Apr-2008 03:57:23 [---] Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site

19:52 <corky> 10-Apr-2008 03:57:26 [---] Access to reference site succeeded - project servers may be temporarily down.

19:53 <PovAddict> what project?

19:53 <corky> http://setiathome.berkely.edu/

19:53 <corky> i did "./boinc_cmd --project_attach http://setiathome.berkely.edu/ my@e.mail password

19:54 <PovAddict> tail -f'ing the log in another terminal? smart :)

19:54 <PovAddict> well SETI *seems* to be up...

19:55 <PovAddict> yup...

19:55 <corky> PovAddict, how do you mean "tail"?

19:56 <PovAddict> how were you watching the log output?

19:56 <corky> oh wait >_<

19:56 <corky> just with cat :P

20:03 <xcamel> seti was down earlier..

20:03 <corky> damn

20:04 <corky> PovAddict, can i make a symbolic link to boinc_cmd ?

20:04 <corky> Romulus, -h

20:04 <Romulus> I don't have a clue!

20:04 <corky> Romulus, help

20:04 <Romulus> corky: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

20:04 <corky> Romulus, help me

20:04 <Romulus> corky: Error: There is no command "me".

20:04 <corky> :P

20:04 <xcamel> don't pick on the bot.. if you want to know something, just ask in the channel

20:04 <PovAddict> corky: sure, why not...

20:05 <corky> dunno, maybe because the working directory changed or something

20:05 <KathrynM> awwwwwwww xcamel you're no fun.  We like to pick on rommie

20:05 <corky> xcamel, i was just playing a bit

20:05 * KathrynM waits to get kicked out

20:06 * corky kicks KathrynM out

20:06 <corky> :P

20:06 <Romulus> It would be easier to hire 3-4 POV-type answer men.

20:06 <KathrynM> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

20:06 <xcamel> isn't it time for school?

20:06 <PovAddict> oh yeah... I think if you aren't in the right working directory, you need to pass the password yourself (with --passwd)

20:06 <KathrynM> uhhhhhhhhhh

20:06 <KathrynM> sortta

20:06 <corky> xcamel, the whole point behind IRC is having fun and sharing stuff

20:06 <PovAddict> Romulus: HEY >:|

20:06 <PovAddict> oh well at least I'd get paid :)

20:07 <corky> lol

20:07 <KathrynM> awwwwww  PovAddict you know we love you

20:07 <KathrynM> where else would I go to ask my stupid Linux questions :)

20:07 <PovAddict> Eric

20:07 <xcamel> corky.. how old are you?

20:07 <KathrynM> true

20:08 <xcamel> there are no stupid linux questions...

20:08 <KathrynM>   just stupid linux users?

20:08 <corky> xcamel, 15

20:08 <xcamel> though so.. I've been on IRC since before you were born.

20:09 <KathrynM> :)

20:09 <corky> xcamel, thus?

20:10 <xcamel> Kat - no, just stupid command line entries that look like a klingon wrote it..

20:10 <KathrynM> hahahaha

20:11 * KathrynM should check system mail

20:11 <xcamel> Thus? Thus means that you enter and act like a guest, not a demanding child.

20:12 <corky> xcamel, can't you give me some fun?

20:12 <corky> Cant you let me have some fun*

20:13 * KathrynM wonders why logrotate is borked

20:13 <KathrynM> oh well.  don't have time to troubleshoot now.

20:13 <corky> "connect: Connection refused

20:13 <corky> can't connect to local host

20:13 <corky> " when i try to lookup my data @ setiathome.berkely.edu

20:13 <KathrynM> laterz

20:13 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:13 <corky> later

20:13 <Romulus> today is the /vista moubnterd

20:13 <PovAddict> corky: is the client running?

20:13 <corky> PovAddict, yes

20:14 <corky> wait

20:14 <corky> PovAddict, i uhm, the daemon WAS running, but in another terminal wtf?

20:14 <PovAddict> if you use --daemon, it won't use up a terminal, it will go to the background

20:14 <corky> well, nvm that

20:16 <corky> well, i can't seem to lookup my account data... :S

20:16 <PovAddict> still says can't connect to localhost?

20:16 <corky> project servers maybe down... is seti@home down?

20:16 <corky> PovAddict, nope, i helped that problem PovAddict ;-)

20:17 <PovAddict> SETI seems to Work For Me

20:17 <corky> well, PovAddict, i'll just return on this subject tomorrow,

20:17 <corky> i need to catch some sleep,

20:18 <corky> typical for linux users, to catch only sleep when the REALLY need it :P, gn all!

20:50 <MTughan_> Figures... Silverlight from MS uses .NET. Typical MS.

20:50 <Soul_keeper> :)

20:50 <MTughan_> Although Vista SP1 was released, it seems.

20:53 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

20:53 <Didactylos> MTughan_: what did you expect? Java?

20:53 <xcamel> update on xp sp3 rct2 also

20:54 <MTughan_> Didactylos: Something besides .NET, even a new language.

20:55 <Didactylos> Better this way, I believe.

20:55 <xcamel> lol M$.not

20:55 <Didactylos> Who needs yet another mediocre language?

20:55 <Didactylos> With .NET, they have support for C++, C# VB and even stuff like Fortran.

20:56 <Didactylos> Did you know there's a Fortran.NET compiler?

20:56 <Didactylos> Scary.... :-)

20:59 <MTughan_> You can do .NET in C++?

20:59 <MTughan_> And what's wrong with the standard library?

21:01 <xcamel> Nice >> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080409.html

21:01 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 April 9 - A Large Magellanic Cloud Deep Field (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

21:04 <MTughan_> Nice...

21:05 <MTughan_> But, I have a biography to do on Karl Marx, so I'll have to stop talking for a while. If someone really needs me, I'll be on the comp, so I can be flashed.

21:05 <xcamel> ugn.. that's a nasty topic..

21:05 <PovAddict> Didactylos: did you know there is a lolcode.NET compiler?

21:06 <Didactylos> The author hangs out in #SPORKS.

21:06 <Didactylos> He's a Google employee :-)

21:06 <PovAddict> brainf*ck.net exists too

21:07 <PovAddict> omg wtf

21:07 <PovAddict> while looking for the .net version

21:07 <PovAddict> I stumbled upon an Apache module

21:07 <PovAddict> mod_bf

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21:28 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam17/IMG_0263.JPG

21:28 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6ea8ce> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

21:29 <PovAddict> wtf

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21:31 <xcamel> not sure I want to know what the purpose of that is

21:33 <xcamel> though I have a feeling I know already..

21:43 <MTughan_> Looks dangerous... (I pop in from time to time)

21:44 <xcamel> understatement..

21:44 <MTughan_> Oh, we found out the chemical structure of TNT today. :D

21:45 <xcamel> next up is C-4

21:45 <PovAddict> now go make some

21:45 <xcamel> or nitroglycerine

21:45 <MTughan_> 2,4,6-trinitro methyl benzene

21:45 <MTughan_> TNT comes from Trinitrotoluene.

21:46 <xcamel> you beat me to the right answer..

21:46 <MTughan_> The toluene being the other name for methyl-benzene.

21:46 <PovAddict> go make some I say

21:46 <PovAddict> xD

21:46 <xcamel> 2,4,6,1-big-boom

21:46 <MTughan_> I know its chemical structure, not its synthesis.

21:46 <MTughan_> lol, Jay.

21:47 <xcamel> tnt is easy

21:47 <MTughan_> Also, Pov: I drew up a rough sketch of what I have for the BOINC Manager in my mind. It was a little messy though, so I'm making a really bad version in GIMP.

21:47 <MTughan_> http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrLayout.png is what I have so far.

21:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6hqud4> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

21:48 <PovAddict> I think I saw your ugly sketch :)

21:52 <xcamel> lol

21:53 <MTughan_> Frankly, my ugly sketch almost looks better. It's B&W. ;)

21:53 <xcamel> some simple changes would make bm a bit easier to work with..

21:53 <MTughan_> Except B doesn't stand for black. :P

21:54 <xcamel> like reporting work from the tasks tab..

21:55 <MTughan_> What I'm going to do is basically combine the Projects and Tasks tabs.

21:55 <xcamel> it's a start

21:55 <MTughan_> The selected item in what I have will show the tasks for that project. You'll also be able to select multiple projects.

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21:56 <MTughan_> Select the Projects drop down itself, and all tasks show.

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21:57 <xcamel> laters... only 30 hours or so to go...

21:57 <xcamel> the hasta la vista...

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22:11 <nickuwo> so I'm using try_fopen(path, file, "r"); to open a file... does it just put the file in"file" or does it return a pointer or somthing?

22:12 <PovAddict> try_fopen? what is that from?

22:12 <nickuwo> umm the BOINC framework

22:13 <nickuwo> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/BackendUtilities

22:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5pm65y> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

22:13 <PovAddict> ah backend

22:13 <PovAddict> yes it put the file in 'file'...

22:13 <nickuwo> sweet

22:14 <PovAddict> FILE* fp; int ret = try_fopen("something", fp, "r");

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22:19 <nickuwo> ok... now If I want to read a line from that file, I might do something like fscanf(file, "%s\n", line);   hmmm, or will that just get me a word?

22:20 <PovAddict> scanf is teh evil

22:20 <nickuwo> mmmmm... evil

22:20 <nickuwo> getline()?

22:20 <PovAddict> I never used it, but I read getline is the preferred way

22:20 <nickuwo> rockMyFace()?

22:21 <nickuwo> ok

22:21 <nickuwo> why is scanf evil?

22:21 <PovAddict> http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Line-Input.html there you go

22:22 <nickuwo> omg pointers

22:22 <Romulus> ah, seti webserver resurected

22:23 <PovAddict> lol

22:33 <nickuwo> gawd, I feel like I'm reinventing the wheel

22:34 <PovAddict> you may be

22:35 <nickuwo> there should be laws against teaching someone java before C++

22:36 <PovAddict> http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/java2.html

22:42 <nickuwo> well, since I don't want to pick up any bad habits, what's the easy way to check if two strings are equal to each other in C++.  a == b? a.equals(b)? I have to do with pointers?

22:42 <PovAddict> depends

22:42 <PovAddict> are they actually C++ strings (as in the std::string class) or are they arrays of characters (char*)?

22:42 <nickuwo> right now I have an array of char

22:43 <PovAddict> http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/String_002fArray-Comparison.html#index-strcmp-522

22:43 <nickuwo> genius!

22:45 <nickuwo> I love asking you questions that I'

22:45 <nickuwo> m too lazy to find the answer to :)

22:45 <nickuwo> did you notice?

22:47 <nickuwo> at least I'm not programming in .NET...

22:54 <Soul_keeper> indeed

23:05 <nickuwo> how does one go about building the sample_assimilator? it doesn't have a main function...

23:05 <nickuwo> use assimilator.c as well?

23:06 * KathrynM is back (gone 02:53:00)

23:06 <nickuwo> o i c

23:11 <nickuwo> hmm, how do I "link" assimilator.C with my assimilator with assimilate_handler() in it?

23:11 <nickuwo> hmm, I think I figured it out

23:12 <nickuwo> just #include it?

23:12 <PovAddict> no

23:13 <nickuwo> no?

23:13 <Romulus> Somebody said no is I supposed to, nickuwo

23:14 <PovAddict> hold on, there's a cockroach around here

23:14 <nickuwo> that didn't even make sense rommie

23:14 <KathrynM> when does rommie make sense?

23:14 <PovAddict> first it was walking on the wall

23:15 <nickuwo> squish it?

23:15 <PovAddict> going behind the bookshelf and back out

23:15 <KathrynM> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

23:15 <PovAddict> by then I was 4 meters away already :)

23:15 <PovAddict> then...

23:15 <PovAddict> it fell off the wall

23:15 <nickuwo> haha

23:15 <PovAddict> onto the computer desk

23:15 <PovAddict> walked a bit over the f*cking KEYBOARD

23:15 <KathrynM> ughhhhhh

23:16 <nickuwo> it wants to help you program

23:16 <PovAddict> I made it fall off the desk but it ran away

23:16 <PovAddict> then came back... walking from behind the desk and freaking me out

23:17 <nickuwo> hehe

23:17 <KathrynM> I remember the first texas roach I saw.

23:17 <KathrynM> It was freaking huge

23:17 <KathrynM> I've seen smaller rats

23:17 <PovAddict> omg

23:17 <KathrynM> well, not quite that big.

23:17 <KathrynM> but it was ginormous

23:17 <PovAddict> ok so now it fell off the desk again

23:18 <KathrynM> it scurried out of the music closet at church and I screamed

23:18 <PovAddict> if it's still where I last saw it

23:18 <PovAddict> it's in a 3cm space between desk and wall

23:18 <PovAddict> I can't even check for sure

23:18 <PovAddict> I should try moving the desk... making those 3cm smaller ;)

23:19 <KathrynM> when we all blow each other up with nuclear weapons the cockroaches will survive and take over the earth

23:20 <PovAddict> can't move the desk

23:20 <PovAddict> too heavy

23:21 <KathrynM> shouldn't you be heading to bed anyway?

23:22 <PovAddict> but but

23:22 <KathrynM> lol

23:22 <PovAddict> I'll be eaten on my sleep

23:22 <KathrynM> (in my sleep)

23:22 <KathrynM> :-)

23:23 <PovAddict> whateverthefuck

23:23 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

23:23 <KathrynM> damn prepositions

23:23 <MTughan_> Heh, sucker.

23:23 <nickuwo> god I love that script

23:23 <PovAddict> MTughan_: who is? <.<

23:23 <MTughan_> With Doug's script. Not the bug.

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23:24 <MTughan_> The bug, that'd just be hugely annoying.

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23:24 <PovAddict> I guess I'll be cleaning tomorrow... sigh

23:35 <MTughan> Where can I pick up the name of an application from the support files?

23:36 <MTughan> I want to get the name of the ABC@Home application, but I don't want to get any ABC tasks.

23:36 <PovAddict> as soon as I stop watching out for the Creepy Bastard, it will crawl on the desk again

23:37 <PovAddict> or crawl inside the shoe I was going to use to splat it

23:37 <KathrynM> http://abcathome.com/apps.php

23:37 <MTughan> Found it... client_state.xml

23:37 <Romulus> Title: Applications (at abcathome.com)

23:37 <KathrynM> but it's not very helpful

23:38 <MTughan> KathrynM: The name in BOINC.

23:38 <KathrynM> The name in the manager is ABC Finder

23:38 <MTughan> abc-finder actually.

23:38 <KathrynM> not on mine :)

23:38 <MTughan> Forgot about the user friendly name... You're right.

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23:38 <KathrynM> heh

23:40 <PovAddict> creepy bastard!

23:40 <KathrynM> crawled up your leg?

23:40 <nickuwo> hmm, now I need to convert a string into a char array...?

23:40 <PovAddict> I dunno where it came from, but it fell on its back

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23:41 <KathrynM> ewwwwwww

23:41 <KathrynM> yuck!!!!!!!!!!

23:41 <PovAddict> it's on a corner of the room trying to flip

23:41 <KathrynM> I'm going back to work with the rug rats

23:41 <KathrynM> IT's safer there

23:41 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

23:41 <PovAddict> and looks too disgusting, making it hard for me to splat it with the shoe

23:41 <PovAddict> ugh

23:42 <KathrynM> splat it already

23:42 <PovAddict> nickuwo: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/string/string/c_str.html

23:42 <PovAddict> KathrynM: it's moving its legs and it's horrible, even more when its legs are like so upwards

23:43 <nickuwo> holy crap, eclipse has intellisense

23:43 <PovAddict> nickuwo: intellisense is a marketing word Visual Studio uses, for a feature that has existed for years in all IDEs I used

23:43 <PovAddict> aka "code completion"

23:44 <nickuwo> either way, it's sweet

23:44 <PovAddict> even vim can have it if you configure it correctly and build the ctags database manually

23:45 <PovAddict> if I had a camera around here, I'd take pictures to freak y'all out

23:45 <PovAddict> xD

23:48 <PovAddict> yuuuck

23:48 <PovAddict> *splat*

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