IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-04-11

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00:48 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11452

00:48 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6akst3> (at www.dailytech.com)

00:48 <Soul_keeper> this is gonna be interesting

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02:25 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam17/IMG_0267.JPG

02:25 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5wprsb> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

02:25 <Soul_keeper> my new case fan

02:32 <Soul_keeper> w00t 47c

02:32 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

02:32 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 51.4°F / 10.8°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Clear. Lows 38 to 47. Light winds.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 80 to 85. Light winds becoming northeast 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 49 to 54. Winds northeast 15 to 20 mph.;

02:32 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 51.4 F to C

02:32 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 10.7777777778

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02:59 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 70 F to C

02:59 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 21.1111111111

02:59 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 30 C to F

02:59 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 86.0

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03:14 <Tank_Master> hey! you remembered!

03:14 <Tank_Master> :P

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03:47 <Soul_keeper> w00t

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05:17 <CoderForLife> I'm back

05:17 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 64.9°F / 18.3°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.33in / 993.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Today - Occasional showers and thunderstorms this morning...decreasing to a chance late this afternoon. Breezy with highs in the mid 70s. South winds 10 to 20 mph...becoming southwest 20 to 25 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 100 (2 more messages)

05:17 <CoderForLife> &mor

05:17 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno!

05:17 <CoderForLife> &more

05:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the mid 40s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...decreasing to 5 to 10 mph with gusts up to 20 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the afternoon. Much colder with highs in the lower 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 (1 more message)

05:19 <CoderForLife> hunger... must.. get.. food..

05:28 <CoderForLife> b

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06:05 <CoderForLife> um.... ouch!

06:06 <CoderForLife> that was a bit rough

06:07 <CoderForLife> bbiab

06:27 <CoderForLife> &quiet

06:27 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

06:31 <wdsmia> &wx 50265

06:31 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 41.4°F / 5.2°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.24in / 990.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Drizzle | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 9.2mph / 14.8km/h ; Today - Breezy. Rain showers and snow in the morning...then snow and rain likely in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. High around 40. West wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 40 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; (1 more message)

06:31 <wdsmia> &more

06:31 <Romulus> wdsmia: Tonight - Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of light snow showers. Breezy...colder. Low around 30. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph. Gusts up to 40 mph decreasing to 30 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Cloudy with scattered light snow showers. Breezy. High in the upper 30s. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

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06:39 <CoderForLife> morning Doug

06:39 <CoderForLife> tgif

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07:00 <wdsmia> its going to be a mother of a friday... so will tgif in about 10 hrs

07:14 <CoderForLife> ok happy tgif eve

07:14 <quail> if anyone here is interested in NASA and amatuer radio, you'll like this >>> http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/pub/7_Digital_TODAY_TONIGHT_2008-04-11_1845.avi <<< it was on 'today tonight' tonight

07:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5bse33> (at quail.southernvaleslug.org)

07:14 <CoderForLife> morn quail

07:15 <CoderForLife> today tonight tonight?

07:15 <CoderForLife> I watch it tomorrow

07:15 <CoderForLife> I'll*

07:15 <CoderForLife> been busy since yesterday

07:16 <quail> 'today tonight' is a current affairs program

07:16 <CoderForLife> hoping for better things next week

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07:16 <CoderForLife> seems reasonable

07:16 <CoderForLife> not a history program, or a futurist discussion

07:17 <CoderForLife> lots of LHC work

07:18 <CoderForLife> black hole preparations are underway, I guess

07:18 <CoderForLife> I mean Higgs boson, of course

07:19 <CoderForLife> I get the "b" and "h" reversed

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07:23 <CoderForLife> LHC is down ATM

07:23 <KathrynM> another black hole?

07:25 <CoderForLife> lol  maybe

07:25 <CoderForLife> wb KathrynM

07:25 <KathrynM> I've been here.  Just quiet.

07:25 <CoderForLife> hmm  feel OK?

07:26 <KathrynM> meh

07:26 <CoderForLife> you let the Lilliputians get to you today, eh?

07:27 <KathrynM> Just tired.

07:27 <CoderForLife> to my point

07:28 <CoderForLife> but - Friday is over for you - it's the weekend

07:28 <CoderForLife> time now for you

07:28 <KathrynM> gotta get up early tomorrow to go to costco

07:28 <KathrynM> early like 7 am

07:28 * KathrynM shudders

07:28 <CoderForLife> ah right

07:28 <CoderForLife> the CostCo pilgrimage

07:29 <KathrynM> about an hour and a half by bus

07:29 <CoderForLife> um

07:29 <CoderForLife> er

07:29 * CoderForLife scratches his name off the list

07:29 <KathrynM> yeah, it's nice not starting work until 9:40

07:30 <KathrynM> aww crap.  I gotta clean the gp cage.  Icky

07:30 <CoderForLife> yup - been there, done that

07:30 <CoderForLife> we had "Bucky" and "Lollipop"

07:30 <KathrynM> at least I've managed to keep the apartment clean

07:30 <KathrynM> awwwwwww lollipop

07:30 <KathrynM> that's cute

07:32 * CoderForLife is w@#%ing at home today

07:34 <CoderForLife> good - my Code has surpassed the high water completion percentage of last night

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08:08 <CoderForLife> hooray!  it finished without error!

08:10 <KathrynM> woo hoo

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12:57 <corky> how can i terminate the boinc daemon from console?

12:57 <corky> ./boinc ???

12:57 <Romulus> w@#%ing on Good Friday?

12:58 <PovAddict> did you start it with --daemon?

12:58 <corky> yes PovAddict

12:58 <PovAddict> ./boinc_cmd --quit

12:58 <corky> PovAddict, btw, how can i report my results?

12:58 <PovAddict> they report themselves

13:00 <corky> oh lol, i just checked the results "ready to report: yes" it said, lol thats why i asked

13:00 <PovAddict> it will report when it feels like it ;)

13:01 <corky> ZOMFG, you guys coded software that "Feels" :O

13:01 <corky> :P

13:01 <PovAddict> if it reports work as soon as they finish, it causes more server load; it's better to contact the project to get new work and report a dozen finished results all at once

13:01 <corky> ok :)

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13:48 <CoderForLife> _o/

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15:16 <Ageless> hum ho

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15:17 <Excelsi0r> hum hi

15:21 <desti> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/multimedia/20080409.html

15:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6alhwa> (at www.nasa.gov)

15:24 <Excelsi0r> wow, I must admit it's not very beautiful, but I take lamer picture from 2 feets

15:24 <Ageless> it's quiet in here.

15:25 <Excelsi0r> sometimes it is

15:27 <Ageless> luckily I got my own noise

15:27 <PovAddict> me too, chiptunes

15:28 <Ageless> http://www.myspace.com/machinaesupremacy for me

15:28 <Romulus> Title: MySpace.com - Machinae Supremacy - SE - Metal / Rock / Alternative - www.myspace.com/machinaesupremacy (at www.myspace.com)

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15:32 <Excelsi0r> erf... I wanted to go on the xchat website and I typed xchat.com ... You'd better don't get there if you see what I mean

15:32 <PovAddict> does the 'x' mean what I think it means?

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15:33 <Excelsi0r> it does :-/

15:36 <Excelsi0r> (brb)

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15:51 <Excelsi0r> NP:

15:51 <Excelsi0r> woops

15:54 <Excelsi0r> NP:

15:54 <PovAddict> ...

15:54 <Excelsi0r> sorry

16:03 <Excelsi0r> script problem with my xmms announcer, now fixed

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16:53 <jackygrahamez> hi folks

16:53 <PovAddict> o noes

16:54 <CoderForLife> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24067737/

16:54 <Romulus> Title: Scientists discover black holes on the Internet - LiveScience- msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com)

16:54 <PovAddict> wtf

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17:01 <CoderForLife> an Internet black hole pin in Argentina

17:02 <CoderForLife> o noes 2 u, PovAddict

17:02 <PovAddict> well thank god we have TCP doing packet retries and stuff

17:03 <PovAddict> and rerouting, etc

17:05 <jackygrahamez> I think you are right Pov, they are deterministic, Certain protein files get messed up

17:10 <Ageless> hey Jack

17:11 <Ageless> I'm sure Cosmo got hooked up in such a black hole.

17:11 <Ageless> does it ever load without mysql errors?

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17:45 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=11456

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17:45 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5dqoo4> (at www.dailytech.com)

17:45 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:45 <c0dewarrior> heya

17:46 <wdsmia> TGIF

17:46 <Romulus> I was just too slow... I'm going to the stock E@H app?

17:46 <c0dewarrior> grin

17:46 <c0dewarrior> indeed

17:47 <c0dewarrior> had to stop all me boinc time...

17:49 <KathrynM__> 0/

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17:51 <PovAddict> o/

17:52 <c0dewarrior> /0\

17:52 <KathrynM> lol

17:52 <efc> Hey

17:52 <KathrynM> moanin

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17:53 <Excelsi0r> hey K

17:53 <PovAddict> "You know you have a bit of a problem when you find yourself *freaking out because you have not freaked out recently*"

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17:54 <KathrynM> I already had my morning freakout.  I thought I had slept through two alarm clocks

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17:54 <PovAddict> how far did you get on the comic archive? xD

17:55 <KathrynM> 176

17:57 <wdsmia> "You know you have a bit of a problem when you find yourself *Kicking Pov because you have not Kicked him out recently*"

17:58 <PovAddict> naw that would be normal for you

17:58 <wdsmia> lol

17:58 <KathrynM> awwwwwww  poor PovAddict

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18:01 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:01 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 39.8°F / 4.3°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.51in / 999.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 11.0mph / 17.7km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Occasional snow and rain in the evening...then a chance of light snow showers after midnight. Breezy. Little or no. Low in the lower 30s. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 90 percent.; Saturday - Cloudy (1 more message)

18:01 <wdsmia> &more

18:01 <Romulus> wdsmia: with scattered light snow showers. Breezy. High in the upper 30s. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 50 percent.; Saturday Night - Cloudy. Scattered light snow showers in the evening...then a slight chance of light snow showers after midnight. Low in the upper 20s. North wind 10 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening. Chance of snow 50 percent.;

18:01 <Romulus> Geeze, I don't think that was C instead of another?

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18:11 <jackygrahamez> I just forwarded an email to you Pov

18:12 <jackygrahamez> I'll see if those guys at Scripps can give me an answer

18:12 <jackygrahamez> I might just be picking models that are incompatible

18:13 <jackygrahamez> well I'm going to enjoy the beautiful weather while ridding my bicycle home

18:14 * Rookie_69 seems to be incompatible with the model type too...

18:14 <jackygrahamez> PEACE!

18:14 <KathrynM> laters

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18:14 <Rookie_69> &seen wdsmia

18:14 <Romulus> Rookie_69: wdsmia was last seen in #boinc 13 minutes and 5 seconds ago: <wdsmia> &more

18:14 <Rookie_69> Close by then.

18:15 <MTughan> Yep.

18:15 <Rookie_69> Hello, Michael, Kathryn, and whomever else is listening...

18:17 <Rookie_69> &weather yaw

18:17 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 47.3°F / 8.5°C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 10.7mph / 17.2km/h | Updated: 7:17 PM ADT; Tonight - Clear. Increasing cloudiness late this evening with 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind northwest 20 km/h (12 mph) gusting to 40 km/h (25 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 3C(37F).; Saturday - (1 more message)

18:18 <Rookie_69> &more

18:18 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Cloudy. Periods of rain beginning in the morning. Amount 5 to 10 mm(0.2 to 0.4 in). Fog patches developing late in the morning. Wind becoming southeast 20 km/h (12 mph) in the morning. High 5C(41F). Saturday night periods of rain changing to periods of drizzle in the evening. Fog patches. Low 1C(34F).; Sunday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. High 7C(45F).;

18:19 <Rookie_69> At least they're not forecasting snow any more.

18:22 <Rookie_69> One of my buddies already has his boat in the water, so I might even get out for a sail soon... with appropriate foul weather gear.

18:32 <Soul_keeper> i just flipped my boat over a few hours ago

18:32 <Soul_keeper> it's rotted and stuff now

18:33 <Rookie_69> That has to suck.

18:34 <Soul_keeper> i gotta do some major repairs to it

18:35 <Rookie_69> Wood?

18:35 * wdsmia slaps Rookie_69 around with a large Carp

18:35 <Soul_keeper> it's fiberglass with stained wood railings and seats

18:35 <Soul_keeper> the wood is all rotted

18:35 * Rookie_69 carps about wdsmia

18:37 <Rookie_69> Try to tenderly pick put wood pieces so as to trace out new ones...

18:38 <Soul_keeper> i've never taken the boat out and never registered it and i've had it nearly 10yrs

18:38 <Rookie_69> ... or have a bonfire...

18:39 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:39 <Soul_keeper> someone offered to sell me another boat, but it's much larger than what i want

18:39 <Rookie_69> Much water around you?

18:39 <Soul_keeper> i only want a small boat for the lakes, not a party boat for the bay

18:39 <Soul_keeper> yeah i'm in san diego

18:40 <Rookie_69> K. There's a bit around there.

18:40 <Rookie_69> Trailer sailor then.

18:40 <Soul_keeper> biggest large mouth bass in the country

18:41 <Rookie_69> Biggest Large Mouth Brass are in the Pentagon ;-)

18:41 <Soul_keeper> heh

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18:43 <Rookie_69> Around here, 9.9 hp powered boats don't need to be registered. It makes some peoples' engine buying easier.

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18:44 <Rookie_69> ?

18:44 <Rookie_69> 9 point 9...

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18:44 <Soul_keeper> i got a 4HP outboard

18:46 <Rookie_69> Throw up a stick and a sail and forget about the fish... that's my idea.

18:46 <Rookie_69> No, wait... Throw up isn't right...

18:49 <Rookie_69> Hoist a sail... that's better.

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18:49 <CoderForLife> nail up a sail

18:50 <CoderForLife> hello Glenn

18:50 <CoderForLife> hello Soul_keeper

18:50 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don...

18:50 <CoderForLife> hello any others

18:50 <wdsmia> *lo Don

18:50 <Rookie_69> Oh... Hello, Jord too.

18:50 <CoderForLife> hey Doug

18:50 <KathrynM> hiya Jord

18:51 <CoderForLife> hello Ageless, KathrynM

18:51 <Ageless> hello all awake

18:51 <CoderForLife> Oh

18:51 <CoderForLife> =)

18:52 <CoderForLife> dang - this cardinal outside my window is LOUD

18:52 <Ageless> the church version?

18:53 <CoderForLife> yeah - dressed in red, and sitting on a tree branch

18:53 <Ageless> make it fly away. show your face

18:53 <Rookie_69> 16 guage is not too loud... and not much kick.

18:54 <CoderForLife> he flew away before I could get my gun

18:54 <CoderForLife> I'd have to take the screen out...

18:54 <CoderForLife> too much work

18:55 <Rookie_69> Shot will remove the screen for you.

18:55 <Ageless> and the window

18:56 <Ageless> so you can hear it better when it returns

18:56 <Rookie_69> And the cardinal... hopefully.

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18:57 <Ageless> hey Erik

18:59 <zombie67> hi

19:00 <Rookie_69> Erik The Viking? I saw that movie.

19:02 <zombie67> I wish.  almost 80 deg here.  Pretty soon I'll have to move my machines indoors for cooling

19:03 <Ageless> dry ice

19:03 <zombie67> no kidding

19:04 <Ageless> you got them outside then?

19:04 <Rookie_69> I've already shut down most boxes because apt was warming up... and onlt barely above freezing up here.

19:04 <zombie67> in the garage

19:04 <zombie67> on the west side of the house.  So it gets all the sun in the afternoon

19:04 <Ageless> central heating / air conditioning?

19:05 <zombie67> yeah

19:05 <zombie67> One option is to just open the door to the garage....

19:05 <Ageless> besides, it's good... it keeps the race on for those trying to catch you on credits. ;)

19:05 <zombie67> let the AC from the house go in

19:06 <Ageless> or bury them all in a basement where you can regulate the temperature 24/7/52

19:07 <zombie67> no basements in CA

19:07 <Ageless> dig one

19:07 <zombie67> very odd

19:07 <zombie67> not possible.  On a slab with tension cables running through it.  earthquake and on the side of a hill

19:08 <Ageless> make it water tight and earthquake proof of course.

19:09 <Ageless> so if it starts to rumble, you either slide or move or both.

19:09 <zombie67> yeah, but the slab won't break.

19:10 <PovAddict> sheesh

19:10 * PovAddict is close to giving up and going back to softwar

19:10 <PovAddict> e

19:10 <Ageless> ah, explain that to the officers. Mobile home.

19:11 <PovAddict> I have this electronic thingy with thermometer and clock and alarm and stuff... which dropped, and some stuff got broke

19:12 <PovAddict> I opened it up, took away the broken pieces of plastic that were in the way, put the screen back in place, now I can't close it back and I can't figure out why

19:12 <KathrynM> hammer?\

19:12 <zombie67> bigger

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19:13 <Ageless> there's a black hole in the way

19:14 <Ageless> but Erik, can't you dig into that hill then, make a special cool room there?

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19:15 <Ageless> you'd think once was enough, Jack.

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19:16 <Ageless> um

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19:17 <KathrynM> poor jack, he seems to be growing a tail

19:18 <KathrynM> or having a problem with splitting personalities

19:18 <Ageless> he's trying to get it right

19:18 <PovAddict> got it

19:18 <Ageless> drill?

19:18 <PovAddict> and didnt forget ant part outside either

19:19 <PovAddict> i better hurry put the screws before it jumps back open

19:19 <zombie67> bbl

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19:20 <Ageless> electrical tape

19:20 <PovAddict> I think I *will* need tape

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19:21 <PovAddict> two out of four screw holes broken

19:21 <Ageless> super glue?

19:21 <PovAddict> although... it doesn't even turn on, so why should I worry about closing it completely...

19:21 <PovAddict> lasts 2 seconds on

19:25 <PovAddict> turned on

19:25 <Ageless> perhaps the batteries, or a loose wire. rattle and shake it.

19:26 <PovAddict> but some parts of the screen don't show up (the minute digits on the clock)

19:26 <PovAddict> if I hold the thing closed, they show... sort of...

19:26 <PovAddict> the two broken screw holes are the two on top

19:27 <Ageless> contact points not making contact then

19:27 <Romulus> think the default if you set the max#CPU to "1"

19:27 <PovAddict> well, when pressing it, the screen shows up completely but also makes those strange colors any black LCD screen does when you press it too much

19:27 <Ageless> right. listen to Rommie

19:27 <PovAddict> like a calculator

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19:28 <Ageless> use a clamp?

19:28 <PovAddict> the screen contact points did seem like a fragile mechanism...

19:28 <KathrynM> hammer?

19:28 <Ageless> or if it's thin enough, a couple of paperclips.

19:28 * KathrynM waves goodbye

19:28 <KathrynM> I'm off to costco

19:28 <KathrynM> laterz

19:28 <PovAddict> it's like a long thin piece of rubber with black lines that I suppose conduct electricity

19:28 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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19:37 <PovAddict> ok totally dead now

19:37 <PovAddict> I tried to set the time, at first beep it turned off

19:41 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar/Img_1196.jpg the dead thing

19:41 <PovAddict> and rubberbands *trying* to hold it together

19:42 <Rookie_69> RIP it...

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19:47 * Rookie_69 has a fillet of haddock in the oven threatrning to become dinner.

19:47 <Rookie_69> ... threatening...

19:51 <PovAddict> wtf I just looked and it's turned on

20:00 <Ageless> oooh, nice ergonomic look those rubber bands

20:01 <Ageless> all models should come with them.

20:01 <PovAddict> lol

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20:01 <Ageless> drill a hole through the op, put a bolt & nut through

20:02 <Ageless> *top

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20:18 <Ageless> is there a slpit channel atm?

20:18 <Ageless> split

20:19 <PovAddict> I don't think so

20:19 <Ageless> all the times Jack entered he saw no one

20:19 <PovAddict> but we saw him, so he wasn't in an alternate universe

20:20 <PovAddict> aka "the other side of the netsplit"

20:20 <Ageless> he's trying again in a bit

20:20 <Ageless> the last time he tried, he saw no one and we didn't see him. So that's really alone in the dark

20:21 <PovAddict> maybe he somehow got in a different server?

20:21 <Ageless> I'm telling him again to do it all by hand.

20:22 <nickuwo_> Pov, can you explain to me the linking thing? I've been reading the man pages and -c just seems to compile the files and not link. Can't I compile and link in the same step?

20:22 *** nickuwo_ is now known as nickuwo

20:23 <PovAddict> nickuwo: yes you can, but it's not really a good idea

20:23 <nickuwo> no?

20:23 <Romulus> I guess no is I supposed to, nickuwo

20:24 <PovAddict> try g++ -o my_assimilator my_assimilator.C assimilator.C libsched.a

20:24 <nickuwo> I don't need to compile assimilator.C?

20:24 <PovAddict> that line will compile both, and link them

20:25 <nickuwo> interesting

20:25 <PovAddict> but I'm not sure if it really works

20:29 <Ageless> hmm, lots of projects down for maintenance, or no work for my platform, or no work at all.

20:29 <Romulus> just what was the one y'all called too short :)

20:31 <Ageless> let's see which projects I'll allow this time. QMC and Rosetta perhaps.

20:36 <Ageless> good thing Jack didn't try to post that email here, he'd be kicked off for flooding the channel.

20:36 <Rookie_69> If I want another beer, I have to go down to the van and get one out og the fridge.

20:37 <Ageless> solution: stop drinking.

20:37 <wdsmia> wtf!

20:38 <Ageless> solution 2: get a dog/maid/fridge next to the puter

20:38 <wdsmia> better

20:38 <Rookie_69> What kind of solution is that?

20:38 <Ageless> the first one? a healthy one.

20:39 <Rookie_69> Solution 2 sounds better.

20:39 <Ageless> although... it'll make you sit solely behind the keyboard, doing nothing, watching flies pass.

20:39 * wdsmia just needs the maid

20:39 <Rookie_69> van calls me...

20:39 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam17/IMG_0269.JPG

20:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5ulpwf> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

20:39 <Soul_keeper> my boat

20:40 <Ageless> slow

20:41 <Soul_keeper> probably because you aren't the only one loading it :)

20:41 <Rookie_69> Lol.

20:41 <Ageless> I quit after seeing the garbage cans

20:41 <Ageless> giving you bandwidth back

20:42 <nickuwo> that thing is awful purdy

20:42 <Ageless> I guess Cosmo lives on the same server... about as fast.

20:43 <Rookie_69> A coat of javex would do some good maybe.

20:47 <CoderForLife> off to watch 2 hours of BSG

20:47 <CoderForLife> gn folks

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20:54 <Rookie_69> Goodnight after the fact, CFL.

20:57 <Ageless> off to watch TNG and then to bed. laters all.

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21:01 <efc> Come on down, to Cluckin' Bell!

21:01 <Rookie_69> ooM!

21:06 <Soul_keeper> buncha girly men in here

21:06 <Soul_keeper> always telling me to clean my room, or my pictures are messy and hurting their eyes

21:07 <efc> If you enjoy it, the chicken didn't die in vain

21:08 <Rookie_69> My room is clean... All the shit piled in the corner is dirty.

21:08 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

21:08 <Rookie_69> ... stuff...

21:11 * wdsmia stuffs Rookie_69 in the dirty corner

21:11 <Rookie_69> ... or laundry is mAYBE A BETTER TERM...

21:12 <Rookie_69> Stupid caps lock...

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21:13 <MTughan> Forgot to restart XChat...

21:13 <wdsmia> *lo Mikey

21:14 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

21:14 <MTughan> Did you remove "sucks" from your script yet?

21:14 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

21:15 <MTughan> Apparently not...

21:15 <Romulus> nope.. nothing in my crobtab to run for 100 bucks a pop

21:15 <wdsmia> nope but I did remove farther

21:15 * Rookie_69 slaps wdsmia around a bit with a large trout a bit for MTughan.

21:15 <MTughan> For example... What if you say that a vacuum literally sucks?

21:15 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

21:15 <MTughan> And thanks Rookie.

21:15 <efc> Hmm, whats that song with the lyrics "Its like a jungle out there" about 20 years old..

21:16 <wdsmia> well I guess your just going to learn to use sux

21:16 <Rookie_69> @MTugan... wdsmia likes being called Dougie...

21:16 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

21:16 <MTughan> Ooh, Dougie... Me likey.

21:16 *** Rookie_69 was kicked by wdsmia (I'm only doing this because I care)

21:16 <PovAddict> pwn

21:17 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

21:17 <efc> Ah, Grandmaster Flash

21:18 <MTughan> Rookie must not have auto-rejoin on...

21:18 <PovAddict> which is a good idea

21:18 <PovAddict> auto-rejoining after a kick just encourages the op to do a ban instead

21:18 <MTughan> So Doug doesn't keep bouncing him out?

21:18 <wdsmia> @MTugan it would be a good idea to forget what Rookie said

21:18 <efc> Sort of like a paddleball

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21:19 <MTughan> Rookie_69: No, you cannot start a revolt against the chanops.

21:19 <Rookie_69> OSI Can...

21:19 <Rookie_69> I just cah't finish it.

21:20 <MTughan> Fair enough.

21:20 <Rookie_69> ... can't...

21:20 <MTughan> <wdsmia> @MTugan it would be a good idea to forget what Rookie said

21:20 <Rookie_69> Kanuckistan Forever!!!

21:21 <MTughan> My guess is he's not leaping with joy over "Dougie", no matter how cute it sounds. :P

21:21 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:21 <wdsmia> thats 2

21:21 <efc> Go on #electronics and announce you are a Canuck, there's an interesting reaction

21:21 <MTughan> I'm not a Canuck.

21:22 <MTughan> I don't play for Vancouver's NHL team.

21:22 <wdsmia> he just plays with himself

21:22 <Rookie_69> There's a whole counyry up here...

21:22 <wdsmia> j/k ;)

21:23 <Rookie_69> I apparently play with myself instead of concentrating on typing...

21:23 <Rookie_69> ... or something...

21:23 <wdsmia> too much info there Rookie_69

21:24 <PovAddict> ditto

21:24 <MTughan> Seconded.

21:25 <Rookie_69> I don't think that I'll mention that you got me on camera, WD...

21:25 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:26 <Rookie_69> Sometimes Gregor is Doug's bitch, I think.

21:26 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

21:26 *** Rookie_69 was kicked by wdsmia (My foot itches... ahh... much better...)

21:26 <PovAddict> you're masochist Rookie_69

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21:27 * Rookie_69 sits quietly in the corner.

21:27 <MTughan> Rookie_69: Just shut up, and you'll be fine.

21:27 <Rookie_69> But I don't want to be fined...

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21:29 * Rookie_69 wonders if the third kick is the charm.

21:30 <wdsmia> call me Dougie again and find out

21:30 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:47 <MTughan> wdsmia: Well, he must value his life, no matter how little. He didn't call you "Dougie" again.

21:47 <MTughan> Or he just leads a really boring life and this is the most excitement he can get. :P

21:48 <Rookie_69> That sounds like me :-(

21:48 <MTughan> Ouch.

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21:53 <Rookie_69> Me and Doug are talking on Skype. He wouldn't really kick me unless... Well OK, He would...

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21:57 <Rookie_69> Dougie

21:57 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 if he really wants to be banned from this channel.

21:58 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:58 <Romulus> misread what you got them now... thx anyway...

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22:10 * Rookie_69 heads off to bed.

22:10 <wdsmia> &nn Rookie_69

22:10 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

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22:15 <Soul_keeper> there we go pressure washed my boat :)

22:17 <Soul_keeper> now i can do wood repair and paint

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22:57 <MTughan_> Why does this keep disconnecting...

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22:58 <PovAddict> C++0x sounds great

22:58 <MTughan> Huh?

22:58 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B0x

23:00 <MTughan> Long article... I'll have to go over it later. Any highlights from you?

23:00 <efc> &weather 30625

23:00 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 75°F / 24°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1010hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers (1 more message)

23:00 <efc> I'm getting to play with Vista some..

23:00 <PovAddict> see Generalized constant expressions

23:00 <PovAddict> efc: poor you?

23:00 <efc> It looks nice, at least

23:02 <MTughan> What, no bluescreens yet?

23:02 <Romulus> high 90 low 80 chance of tree

23:02 <efc> Nah, although I can't get a LAN going (which is all I need)

23:02 <PovAddict> is the "cancel or allow" screen blue?

23:02 <efc> Its MultiMedia colors

23:05 <MTughan> PovAddict: You mean UAC?

23:05 <MTughan> It just greys the screen and then shows the dialog.

23:06 <PovAddict> could have blued the screen ;)

23:06 <MTughan> Heh.

23:06 <MTughan> There's probably someone who's hacked it to do that. xD

23:07 <PovAddict> I know somebody wrote something that looks like Mac Exposé

23:07 <PovAddict> with the DWM APIs

23:07 <MTughan> Now, generalized constant expressions can be done in C++0x, but why not just use a #define to define a constant value?

23:08 <MTughan> Or are #define's generally looked on as bad, like goto's?

23:08 <PovAddict> #defines aren't type safe

23:09 <PovAddict> you could argue you can do: const int whatever = 3+5*2;

23:09 <MTughan> Because it's a direct substitution?

23:09 <PovAddict> but constexpr functions can very well have variables and stuff

23:09 <efc> Ooo, more C++ features I won't understand

23:09 <PovAddict> lol

23:10 <MTughan> Heh, I still have plenty of those efc.

23:10 <MTughan> I know Obj-C though.

23:10 <PovAddict> I'm levelling up

23:11 <MTughan> Meh. C++ is good enough for me right now.

23:11 <MTughan> Probably because I don't use it that much. :P

23:11 <PovAddict> concepts will *really* help with those over-long template error messages

23:12 <MTughan> I think the most I've done with C++ is integrating it with Obj-C.

23:12 <PovAddict> lol

23:12 <efc> Been using Ada.. Another endlessly complex language

23:12 <MTughan> Obj-C = C + Smalltalk

23:12 <PovAddict> does Obj-C (or Cocoa) have decent socket APIs?

23:12 <MTughan> I think there is a socket class. Let me check.

23:13 <PovAddict> some day maybe you could write your own code to talk to BOINC

23:13 <PovAddict> instead of bridging to C++ and using the bundled BOINC RPC library

23:14 <MTughan> What I think I'd be looking for: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSStream_Class/Reference/Reference.html

23:14 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5fkzu8> (at developer.apple.com)

23:15 <MTughan> Or http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSSocketPort_Class/Reference/Reference.html

23:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5z93zb> (at developer.apple.com)

23:15 <MTughan> NSStream or NSSocketPort, not sure which.

23:17 <MTughan> Or there's nothing at all... http://homepage.mac.com/ruske/ruske/C2127905073/E1730627733/index.html

23:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yryz9n> (at homepage.mac.com)

23:17 <MTughan> Seems a NSFileHandle class can handle stream sockets (guessing TCP here), but not datagram (UDP) or others.

23:18 <MTughan> Now, that last page was posted 3 years ago, but probably not too much has changed.

23:18 <PovAddict> well, BSD socket API are too low-level for most uses

23:18 <PovAddict> it's really useful to have a higher-level library handling buffering and other stuff for you

23:19 <MTughan> Second thing I looked at said NSFileHandle objects or system APIs. I'll look up NSFileHandle.

23:19 <PovAddict> was OS X 10.3 released before or after that blog post?

23:20 <MTughan> Panther... Wiki will know.

23:20 <PovAddict> "Apple released Panther on October 24, 2003."

23:20 <MTughan> Yep.

23:20 <PovAddict> and the blog post is a year later

23:20 <MTughan> Yep.

23:21 <PovAddict> well, just asking because NSStream is 10.3 and up

23:21 <MTughan> Here's NSFileHandle, but I still haven't looked how to get a socket: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/Foundation/Classes/NSFileHandle_Class/Reference/Reference.html

23:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6gysqj> (at developer.apple.com)

23:22 <MTughan> Although while searching on Google, I turned up a Sourceforge project.

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23:22 <MTughan> Pre-alpha stage at this point though. http://sourceforge.net/projects/caitlin

23:22 <Romulus> Title: SourceForge.net: Caitlin - Objective-C Socket Library (at sourceforge.net)

23:23 <MTughan> Could it be the C++ integration that's making my application take 7% CPU when it updates?

23:23 <MTughan> BTW, that's 7% of one core on a Core Duo 2.0GHz.

23:29 <MTughan> PovAddict?

23:29 <Romulus> It has been said that PovAddict is in Windows, (ab)using unix tools like hell, MTughan

23:30 <MTughan> wdsmia: You don't let people call you Dougie or let them say "sucks", but that goes on fine?

23:30 <wdsmia> asks MTughan to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

23:31 <PovAddict> MTughan: lemme guess

23:32 <PovAddict> you call get_results, empty your whole list (= GUI object) and reload it with the fresh data?

23:32 <MTughan> Nope.

23:32 <MTughan> I iterate over each object created, asking it if it corresponds to the given C++ object. It checks master url for projects.

23:33 <MTughan> If it does, I tell it to update.

23:33 <PovAddict> and master url + name for tasks?

23:33 <MTughan> Something like that. I can check it.

23:34 <MTughan> And actually, the GUI object has nothing to do with this. All the updates are done within the framework, with callback message when updates are available.

23:34 <efc> oh well, gave up on the LAN

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