IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-04-15

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00:05 <PovAddict> what hardware do you want to port it to, again?

00:05 <PovAddict> FPGAs?

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00:15 <Didactylos> PovAddict: it's from Tango.

00:15 <PovAddict> huh

00:15 <PovAddict> I think I asked you something but I forgot already :)

00:19 <Didactylos> Indeed.

00:19 <Romulus> I don't have a virus

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00:44 <efc> pOV: yES

00:44 <efc> oOOPs :)

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01:36 <Soul_keeper> WAKE UP !!!

01:37 <Wabbit67> no

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01:56 <briareus> morning

01:57 <briareus> what are your thoughts on cpufreq?

01:57 <briareus> it seems my machine gets mighty mighty hot when I boinc with cpufreqd running

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04:33 <desti> it's hard to find a suitable project for old k6

04:34 <Romulus> a NNTP client helps us manage all that imporant

04:35 <DerMeister> desti: rcn or rosetta should work as the workunits only take a fixed number of hours

04:36 <desti> i tried milyway, which has small workunits, but it needs a 686 processor, now i have attached it to poem

04:39 <CoderForLife> morning

04:40 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:40 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 33.4F / 0.8C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Widespread frost this morning. Sunny. Highs around 60. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds around 5 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. (1 more message)

04:41 <CoderForLife> &more

04:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Freeze Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 10:00 AM EDT on April 15, 2008;

04:57 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast

05:13 <KathrynM> mornin'

05:32 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

05:33 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife

05:33 <KathrynM> How goes the COding?

05:33 <CoderForLife> going OK - doing a big compare between test runs Sunday AM and last night

05:34 <KathrynM> sounds fun

05:34 <CoderForLife> oh, very

05:34 * KathrynM is enjoying her grape soda

05:34 <KathrynM> it's all CoderForLife's fault for mentioning it last night

05:35 <CoderForLife> just told my compare tool to ignore certain type of differences

05:35 <CoderForLife> ah, grape soda

05:35 <CoderForLife> Coca-Cola #1, grape soda #2

05:36 <CoderForLife> it's such a happy drink

05:36 <KathrynM> :)

05:36 <KathrynM> very purple

05:36 <Romulus> that's what i can do my development without that

05:37 <CoderForLife> exactly, Rommie

05:37 <CoderForLife> I can't Code without Coke and grape soda

05:38 <CoderForLife> for some Coders, the magic elixir is Mountain Dew

05:38 <KathrynM> that would be my brother

05:39 <CoderForLife> your brother is Mountain Dew?

05:39 <KathrynM> :D

05:39 <KathrynM> He drinks enough of it

05:39 <CoderForLife> that was the expected come-back =)

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05:40 <KathrynM> lol

05:43 * CoderForLife has to go into w@#% today

05:43 <CoderForLife> drats

05:43 <KathrynM> :(

05:44 <CoderForLife> I was at home Friday and yesterday

05:44 <CoderForLife> so much more productive

05:44 <KathrynM> I could use a job like that

05:44 <KathrynM> stay at home and work

05:45 <CoderForLife> the downside is that I w@rk all the time

05:45 <KathrynM> true

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05:47 * CoderForLife notes that making any changes to a compare between 2 files over 100MB is size takes a loooong time

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05:50 <CoderForLife> is=in

05:51 * KathrynM notes that taking 8 children to a restaurant can result in gray hairs

05:52 <CoderForLife> I'm quite surprised you didn't pull your hair out, or that they didn't pull it out

05:53 <KathrynM> Or the restaurant ladies didn't kill me.

05:54 <CoderForLife> exactly - I remember a time in high school when our buses (carrying the band and drill team) pulled into a McDonald's - the whole restaurant staff quit on the spot

05:55 <KathrynM> lol

05:55 <KathrynM> So you were a band geek too?

05:55 <CoderForLife> trumpet - grades 5 through 12

05:56 <KathrynM> flute 5-12 and flag corps 9-12

05:56 <CoderForLife> marching, concert, pep and musical

05:56 <KathrynM> ahhh pep band

05:56 <CoderForLife> I guess musical would be the same as symphony

05:56 <KathrynM> we had concert band and wind ensemble

05:57 <KathrynM> w.e. went to contest every year

05:57 <CoderForLife> yep, good

05:57 <KathrynM> solo and ensemble contest was fun until my senior year when I got a dick for a judge

05:57 <CoderForLife> I never did any of the solo and ensemble contests

05:57 <KathrynM> junior year was pretty funny.

05:57 <KathrynM> I had bronchitis and had to ask to skip repeats because I would have turned blue by the end

05:58 <CoderForLife> lol

05:58 <KathrynM> I was the last person of the day and the judge was like hell yes.  I wanna go home.

05:58 <CoderForLife> you would have gotten the blue ribbon

05:58 <KathrynM> :)

05:58 <CoderForLife> I must "hit the shower"

05:58 <KathrynM> laterz

05:58 <CoderForLife> cya on the flip side

05:59 * CoderForLife waves a bar of soap

05:59 * KathrynM throws CoderForLife a towel

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12:11 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

12:11 <Tank_Master> &more

12:11 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 41.0F / 5.0C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Showers likely. Snow level 1000 feet in the morning. No snow accumulation. Highs 50 to 55. Light wind becoming southwest 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows around 40. (1 more message)

12:11 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Southwest wind 10 to 15 mph becoming light after midnight.; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the morning. Highs around 60. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;

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12:21 <quail> &weather ypad

12:21 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 1:30 AM CST; Clear. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. Low:53 F. / 12 C.;

12:22 <quail> damn, it colder than that

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12:38 <seren> hello

12:38 <Romulus> Biggest Large Mouth Brass are in the project is down.

12:38 <seren> i cant get boinc for os x to connect to any projects

12:38 <PovAddict> which have you tried?

12:38 <seren> seti@home

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12:39 <seren>

12:39 <seren> i use little snitch (firewall)

12:39 <PovAddict> getting any error?

12:39 <seren> and it dosent show any copnnection attempts

12:39 <seren> just that network is unavail

12:40 <seren> its not the firewall because it would prompt to allow

12:40 <seren> i added it to exemptions anyways

12:41 <seren> "The URL you supplied is not that of a BOINC -based Project"

12:41 <seren> im selecting from the list

12:41 <PovAddict> do you use a proxy too'

12:41 <PovAddict> ?

12:41 <seren> no

12:41 <seren> i tried and it still didnt attempt to connect

12:42 <PovAddict> well, there's something you can configure so it gives more details on the messages

12:42 <seren> ok

12:42 <PovAddict> but I'm not sure where Mac keeps that file

12:49 <seren> PovAddict:  what is it names?

12:49 <seren> named*

12:49 <PovAddict> cc_config.xml

12:51 <Didactylos> seren: have a look for the master_* files. See what they contain.

12:51 <seren> Macintosh HD --> Library --> Application Support --> BOINC Data

12:52 <seren> that file isnt there

12:52 <seren> many are

12:52 <PovAddict> is there any file starting with "master_"?

12:53 <seren> 15-Apr-2008 11:20:41 [---] Fetching configuration file from

12:53 <seren> 15-Apr-2008 11:20:56 [---] Received signal 15

12:53 <Romulus> <> (at

12:53 <seren> no

12:54 <PovAddict> received a *signal* when trying to do a network request?! weird

12:54 <PovAddict> do you see any get_project_config.xml?

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12:54 <seren> ya

12:54 <seren> its empty

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12:55 <PovAddict> ok... hmm

12:55 <seren> connect: Connection refused

12:55 <seren> connect: Operation now in progress

12:55 <seren> SIGPIPE: write on a pipe with no reader

12:55 <seren> send: Broken pipe

12:55 <seren> Thread 0 Crashed:

12:56 <seren> O_o

12:56 <PovAddict> anything after 'Crashed'? (like a *huge* error log?)

12:56 <seren> yea and a binary dump

12:56 <PovAddict> put it on

12:57 <seren>

12:57 <PovAddict> Didactylos: I thought of something while making a sample cc_config.xml... have you ever seen YAML?

12:59 <PovAddict> seren: well damn... there's a library list but no stackdump that could help a developer track down the crash

13:00 <seren> its prlly cause im on a hackintosh

13:00 <PovAddict> make a cc_config.xml file in the "BOINC Data" directory, containing this:

13:02 <seren> \host: (Timeout while contacting DNS servers)

13:02 <seren> 15-Apr-2008 12:01:55 [---] [http_debug] [ID#0] info: Closing connection #0

13:02 <seren> 15-Apr-2008 12:01:55 [---] [http_debug] HTTP error: Couldn't resolve host name

13:02 <PovAddict> it does look like the firewall isn't letting it through

13:03 <seren> nah i disabled it

13:03 <PovAddict> damn I have to go

13:11 <Tank_Master> hf

13:13 <Didactylos> PovAddict: yet another?

13:23 <Didactylos> seren: what BOINC version do you have?

13:23 <seren> 5.10.45

13:23 <seren> i tried the beta

13:25 <Didactylos> Are you sure you don't use a proxy? This error has *always* been caused by a proxy in the past.

13:26 <seren> no

13:26 <seren> never have

13:27 <seren> brb

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14:46 <PovAddict> Didactylos: yes, yet another markup language

15:18 <quail> g'day PovAddict, how are you bloke?

15:42 <kdb> question, how many people put their code signing key on a USB memory stick that they sign code with, move it to the computer to sign code, and then disconnect it, or do they move the code to the signing computer, which is offline, and then get the .sig file and then move it back?

15:52 <Ageless93> well, I hope port 9001 is open in my router as I can't open it due to a forgotten password (that I not even remember setting up).

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16:00 <Ageless93> it's lonely over there on port 9001 ;)

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16:07 <quail> Ageless93: I can harrass you port 9001

16:07 <quail> :-P

16:08 <Ageless93> please don't. It's very touchy.

16:10 <quail> hehe

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16:50 <Excelsi0r> who spoked about tushy ?

16:51 <PovAddict> kdb: better *everyone* does...

16:52 <PovAddict> those instructions are kinda biased towards a university that would have lots of computers around anyway

16:52 <PovAddict> including old ones

16:54 <quail> g'morning all

16:59 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 58.8F / 14.9C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Areas of frost after midnight. Lows in the mid 30s. South winds around 5 mph.; Wednesday - Areas of frost in the morning. Sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.; Wednesday Night - Clear. Warmer with (1 more message)

16:59 <CoderForLife> &more

16:59 <Romulus> CoderForLife: lows in the mid 40s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Frost Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on April 16, 2008;

16:59 <quail> &wx ypad

16:59 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 30.33in / 1027hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM CST; Clear. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. Low:53 F. / 12 C.;

16:59 <quail> CoderForLife: hey Don, how are you mate?

17:00 <CoderForLife> just home from w@#% - got homew@#% to do

17:00 <quail> B00!!

17:01 <quail> b00!! to the later

17:01 <Ageless93> aaah, how sweet:

17:01 <Romulus> <> (at

17:01 <quail> but good you home :-)

17:02 <CoderForLife> hmm -  "Bush to make climate announcement"

17:02 <CoderForLife> this can't be good

17:03 <quail> oh :-(

17:03 <quail> rude not there too

17:03 <CoderForLife> hmm - "Carter hugs Hamas"

17:03 <quail> huh?

17:04 <CoderForLife>

17:04 <Romulus> <> (at

17:04 * CoderForLife fires up GoToMyPC

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17:12 <quail> CoderForLife: I have got my debian install down to 965 installed packages :-)

17:14 <CoderForLife> minimal?

17:14 <quail> CoderForLife: it getting smaller

17:15 <CoderForLife> my Debian installation is zero packages =)

17:15 <quail> I am still fuctionable atm with my 965 packages

17:18 <quail> CoderForLife: out my debian install I have stripped, evolution, samba, portmap etc out

17:20 <PovAddict> o/

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17:34 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:35 <CoderForLife> wb

17:36 <wdsmia> windy out there

17:36 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:36 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 68.7F / 20.4C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 18.0mph / 29.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Windy...warmer. Low around 50. South wind 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Breezy. High in the upper 60s. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph with gusts to around 35 mph.; Wednesday (1 more message)

17:36 <wdsmia> &more

17:36 <Romulus> wdsmia: Night - Partly cloudy until early morning then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Low in the mid 40s. West wind 5 to 15 mph shifting to the north after midnight. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Wind Advisory for Polk County in effect until 9:00 PM CDT on April 15, 2008;

17:37 * CoderForLife looks out the window for efc's girlfriend

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17:51 <quail> howdy wdsmia

17:52 <quail> CoderForLife: eeep stop looking at me :-P

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18:04 <quail> KathrynM: wb

18:05 <KathrynM> thx

18:08 <CoderForLife> hey

18:08 <Excelsi0r> hi

18:08 <KathrynM> mornin' CoderForLife, Excelsi0r, quail and whomever else is hanging around

18:08 * CoderForLife hops down off the nail

18:08 <Excelsi0r> mornin' to ya

18:09 <Excelsi0r> (10 past midnight and I'm tired)

18:09 <CoderForLife> I feel like the ScareCoder from the Wizard of Oz

18:09 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, I was afraid you had drown in the shower.  You never came back before w*#&

18:09 <CoderForLife> I did - I picked up the towel

18:09 <KathrynM> :)

18:12 <PovAddict> moo

18:12 <CoderForLife> moo too yoo too

18:12 <KathrynM> quack

18:12 <Excelsi0r> btw I reached 150 thousand points today

18:12 <KathrynM> \o/ -- woot!

18:12 <PovAddict> 282k here

18:13 <KathrynM> ~680K

18:13 * CoderForLife runs some reports on the w@#% extranet sites

18:13 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, should get BOINC credit for that

18:13 <CoderForLife> 54,287 registered users

18:13 <Excelsi0r> don't kill my happiness of having been through my 150k points

18:13 * PovAddict should take note of your CPIDs

18:13 * quail a part time seti cruncher

18:14 <PovAddict> sethy reached 1 million

18:14 <Excelsi0r> my computer worked since 3 years and a half to do that

18:14 <PovAddict> >:o

18:14 <PovAddict> he has a friend's quad

18:14 <KathrynM> I remember when I hit 10k and how excited I was

18:14 <PovAddict> >:o

18:15 <quail> it bit hard for me to run through summer here

18:15 <CoderForLife> o:<

18:15 <Excelsi0r> i don't even remember when i had 10k

18:15 <PovAddict>

18:15 <PovAddict> the quad isn't even his

18:15 <KathrynM> PovAddict, how the heck do you run the client and manager when you unpack the berk thingie?

18:15 <Excelsi0r> :p

18:16 <KathrynM> I'm in the directory

18:16 <KathrynM> errr after you unpack

18:16 <PovAddict> berk thingy? o_O

18:16 <KathrynM> the .sh

18:16 <PovAddict> ./run_manager (I think the manager would run the client too, like on Windoze)

18:17 <PovAddict> or, start client manually first: ./run_client --daemon

18:17 <KathrynM> that's what I did wrong.  I put a space in there

18:17 <Excelsi0r> huh ? the client runs without the manager in windows...

18:17 <KathrynM> nope.  it doesn't start the client

18:17 <PovAddict> Excelsi0r: I know, so what

18:18 <KathrynM> see, this is why I like my way better.  I've had nothing but trouble with the berkeley thingie

18:18 <PovAddict> Excelsi0r: I just mean starting the manager also starts the client if it's not already running

18:18 <Excelsi0r> oh, okay

18:18 <Excelsi0r> sorry

18:18 <PovAddict> KathrynM: then start client manually 1st

18:18 * KathrynM apologizes for lack of Linux terminology knowledge

18:18 * PovAddict downloaded wikipedia last night

18:18 <Excelsi0r> rofl

18:19 <PovAddict>

18:19 <Excelsi0r> what would you do with that ?

18:20 * KathrynM gives up

18:20 <PovAddict> that was fast

18:20 <PovAddict> too fast I'd say

18:20 <KathrynM> it's 0720

18:20 <PovAddict> oic

18:20 <KathrynM> Not something I really want to deal with this early

18:21 <PovAddict> what the HELL are you doing up before 8

18:21 <KathrynM> insomina

18:21 <PovAddict> ah fun

18:21 <KathrynM> tell me about it

18:21 <Excelsi0r> that's a cool stephen king's book :p

18:21 <KathrynM> only SK book I've read is "Thinner"

18:21 <PovAddict> did you keep reading QC? :P

18:22 <Excelsi0r> yeah, pretty good too

18:22 <KathrynM> oh me?

18:22 <KathrynM> yeah

18:22 <Excelsi0r> well, I'm gonna get some sleep

18:23 <KathrynM> UP to 623 and reading more now

18:23 <KathrynM> sleep well Excelsi0r

18:23 <Excelsi0r> have a good day and evening

18:23 <Excelsi0r> thx

18:23 <PovAddict> nite

18:27 <KathrynM> PovAddict, lol @ the katydid in the burrito

18:29 <PovAddict> XD

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18:54 <CoderForLife> yup - 54,287 registered users

18:55 <CoderForLife> yup

18:55 <KathrynM> yup

18:55 <CoderForLife> looks like we add about 9,000 users per year

18:56 <CoderForLife> for the last 2 years running

18:57 <CoderForLife> make that 3 years

18:59 <CoderForLife> looks like they've breached the anti-spam filters at w@#%ed

18:59 <CoderForLife> er, -ed

18:59 <CoderForLife> spam e-mails coming in

19:00 <KathrynM> uh oh

19:01 <CoderForLife> well - got my draft report done - there's some data quality issues - looks like some bad data got into the production LDAP directory, so I can't finish my report

19:02 <CoderForLife> about 30 group plan participant records need some easy fixup

19:02 <CoderForLife> I delegated that =)

19:02 <KathrynM> oooo  delegation.  nifty

19:03 <CoderForLife> time to shut down the remote access, and head for the Coding Couch

19:06 <CoderForLife> to the couchen vit me

19:06 <CoderForLife> gn

19:07 <MTughan> Funny image from another channel. Vista source code:

19:09 <KathrynM> lol

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19:34 <nickuwo> I'm trying to use get_output_file_paths(RESULT const&, vector<string>&), but g++ keeps giving me an error:

19:35 <PovAddict> moo efc

19:35 <PovAddict> efc:

19:36 <nickuwo> undefined reference to `get_output_file_paths(RESULT const&, std::vector<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::allocator<std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > >&)'

19:36 <PovAddict> are you linking libsched.a?

19:37 <nickuwo> yes

19:37 <nickuwo> g++ bla bla libsched.a

19:37 <PovAddict> is that on the validator?

19:37 <nickuwo> assimilator

19:38 <PovAddict> you need to compile and link validate_util.C too

19:38 <PovAddict> sample_assimilator_SOURCES = assimilator.C sample_assimilator.C validate_util.C

19:39 <nickuwo> can i just link validate_util.o

19:39 <PovAddict> of course, if you already have it...

19:39 <PovAddict> validate_util.o is what you get from compiling validate_util.C

19:40 <nickuwo> now it's giving me multiple definition errors...

19:40 <PovAddict> lol

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19:41 <nickuwo> in libsched.a and libboinc.a

19:41 <PovAddict> try no libboinc.a

19:41 <nickuwo> undefined references

19:43 <nickuwo> this should be relatively trivial, no? I must be doing something simple incorrectly

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19:45 <nickuwo> first I compiled my assimilator.cpp into assimilator.o, then I moved it to boinc_trunk/sched and tried to link with:

19:45 <nickuwo> g++ -o ramsey_assimilator ramsey_assimilator.o assimilator.o db_base.o msg_log.o -lmysqlclient -lsched -lssl -L/usr/include/mysql -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk -L/usr/include/mysql -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/db -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/lib -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/sched libsched.a validate_util.o

19:45 <PovAddict> I think db_base.o msg_log.o is already inside libsched

19:45 <PovAddict> and you're linking libsched twice

19:45 <PovAddict> (-lsched and libsched.a)

19:46 <nickuwo> ok, got rid of those, still undefined references in validate_util.C

19:47 <nickuwo> and msg_log.C boinc_db.C

19:47 <PovAddict> which? tell me at least one undefined symbol name

19:47 <nickuwo> XML_PARSER and strlcpy

19:48 <PovAddict> ok so I think you did need libboinc.a :)

19:48 <KathrynM> mornin' Ageless93

19:48 <nickuwo> hmm, i got it in there...

19:49 <PovAddict> show your link line again?

19:49 <nickuwo> g++ -o ramsey_assimilator ramsey_assimilator.o assimilator.o validate_util.o -lsched -lmysqlclient -lssl -L/usr/include/mysql -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk -L/usr/include/mysql -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/db -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/lib -L/home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/sched

19:50 <PovAddict> try adding libboinc...

19:51 <nickuwo> then I get multiple definitions of APP::clear() (among others)in libboinc.a and libsched.a

19:51 <PovAddict> goddamnit

19:52 <nickuwo> or libboinc.a and gui_rpc_client_ops.C rather

19:53 <nickuwo> want the whole error?

19:55 <PovAddict> yes

19:55 <PovAddict> your current line seems to be correct

19:56 <nickuwo>

19:59 <nickuwo> my assimilator code is at

19:59 <PovAddict> head /home/boincadm/boinc_trunk/config.log

19:59 <Romulus> hey, this aint no mister.

20:01 <nickuwo>

20:04 <PovAddict> actually

20:04 <efc> late moo

20:04 <PovAddict> I can't figure out how that manages to work on my server

20:05 <PovAddict> try -lsched before -lboinc

20:05 <nickuwo> wow

20:06 <nickuwo> why does that matter?

20:06 <nickuwo> it works

20:06 <nickuwo> thx pov

20:12 <KathrynM> it'll work the other way, but only on alternate blue moons that fall on a Saturday in January

20:12 <nickuwo> I'll keep that in mind :)

20:13 <nickuwo> well, it compiles... but it doesn't work :)

20:13 <KathrynM> oh you want it to work too?

20:14 <nickuwo> hehe

20:14 <KathrynM> Have you prepared the appropriate sacrifices?

20:14 <PovAddict> "it compiles? release it!"

20:14 <nickuwo> it's asking too much I know

20:14 <KathrynM> lol

20:15 <nickuwo> at least that's my fault, whereas it I can't figure out that command to compile it, that's someone else's fault... maybe

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20:16 * xcamel_mx peeks in

20:16 <KathrynM> how's mexico?

20:16 <xcamel_mx> anyone about?

20:17 <xcamel_mx> Hiya K

20:17 <KathrynM> I'm a figament of your imagination

20:17 <xcamel_mx> weather is sunny and hot.

20:17 <Ageless93> dreamer... nothing but a dreamer...

20:17 <xcamel_mx> 91F atm.

20:18 <xcamel_mx> finally got back into my gmail acct... that was fun...

20:18 <xcamel_mx> 'lo Jord..

20:18 <Romulus> but I missed anything?

20:18 * KathrynM keeps her comments to herself

20:19 <xcamel_mx> got to go to dinnere here in a few..

20:19 <xcamel_mx> 6:30 here

20:19 <xcamel_mx> ...ish

20:20 <xcamel_mx> guess not much goin on?

20:20 <KathrynM> getting ready for w*@&

20:21 <Ageless93> getting ready for b*@

20:22 <xcamel_mx> well have a good time of it either way..

20:22 <xcamel_mx> tell CFL and Doug I waved "HI!"

20:22 <Ageless93> you too.

20:22 * xcamel_mx waves

20:22 * KathrynM waves

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20:23 <Ageless93> nice out in the sun, but becareful not to burn alive.

20:23 <Ageless93> ok, off to b*@ I go .. night all.

20:24 <KathrynM> night

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20:25 <KathrynM>

20:25 <Romulus> <> (at

20:25 <KathrynM> and on that note, I'm going to w*@& where they don't believe in passwords

20:25 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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21:47 <nickuwo> uh oh, segmentation fault : (

21:56 <PovAddict> your code asplode

21:59 * nickuwo holds his breath until PovAddict implements BOINC in Java

21:59 <PovAddict> humans can't hold their breath for that long...

21:59 <PovAddict> your app has 10 output files?

22:01 <nickuwo> no, I thought that might be the problem

22:01 <nickuwo> that I didn't specify a size for the vector

22:01 <PovAddict> the whole point of a vector (vs an array) is that it expands itself when you add items to it

22:02 <PovAddict> there's a chance your vector now has 10 empty strings plus what get_output_file_paths added

22:02 <nickuwo> my code wasn't compiling = I wasn't thinking clearly

22:02 <nickuwo> nah, I took that out and recompilied it

22:02 <PovAddict> paste it again plz

22:03 <nickuwo> lemme boot my VM up again :0

22:07 <nickuwo>

22:07 <PovAddict> what isn't working on it?

22:08 <nickuwo> it prints "segmentation fault" when I run it

22:10 <nickuwo> not sure if my WU's should say "assimilated" or something on the ops page...

22:10 <PovAddict> well your code is crashing, can't tell if the crash is before or after it's marked as assimilated

22:10 <nickuwo> yea, I thought about adding some try catches, just ran out of time

22:11 <PovAddict> a segfault won't be caught by a try{} :)

22:11 <nickuwo> no?

22:11 <Romulus> hmm... no is I supposed to, nickuwo

22:11 <PovAddict> you have experience with Java, don't you? :)

22:12 <nickuwo> that's about all I have experience with

22:12 <PovAddict> if you get a segfault, there's a chance you corrupted memory too

22:12 <nickuwo> sweet

22:12 <PovAddict> there *are* ways to catch segfaults (with a signal handler), but it's too late by then :)

22:13 <PovAddict> are you running the assimilator manually from the console?

22:13 <nickuwo> I did just to test it, but it was in my config.xml as well, just took it out tho

22:13 <PovAddict> from what dir?

22:14 <nickuwo> bin

22:14 <PovAddict> ok

22:14 <PovAddict> instead of ./my_assimilator

22:14 <PovAddict> run: gdb my_assimilator

22:14 <PovAddict> then on the (gdb) prompt, just type 'run' and let it segfault

22:14 <nickuwo> what's gdb?

22:15 <PovAddict> debugger :)

22:15 <nickuwo> ah

22:15 <PovAddict> crashed it yet? :)

22:16 <nickuwo> yea, it couldn't find the app, run -app ramsey?

22:16 <PovAddict> oh damn

22:16 <PovAddict> type 'quit'

22:16 <PovAddict> go again: gdb my_assimilator

22:16 <nickuwo> ok

22:16 <PovAddict> ah yes, "run -app ramsey" works

22:17 <nickuwo> I get a "Failed to read a valid object file image from memory" before it even starts...

22:18 <nickuwo> then it starts, then a segfault, doesn't say much about it tho

22:18 <PovAddict> type 'bt' now

22:18 <PovAddict> (backtrace)

22:18 <nickuwo> ok

22:18 <nickuwo> like a stack dump?

22:18 <PovAddict> yup

22:18 <nickuwo> killer

22:19 <PovAddict> pastebin it

22:19 <nickuwo>

22:20 <PovAddict> assimilate_handler is part of *your* code?

22:20 <nickuwo> ? it's in ramsey_assimilator.C, if that's what you mean, but I didn't write it

22:21 <PovAddict> ah k

22:21 <nickuwo> parts of it

22:21 <PovAddict> just wondering if it was from assimilator.C instead

22:21 <nickuwo> oh, no

22:22 <nickuwo> it's gotta be something I added, the getline call, or strcmp call, perhaps?

22:22 <nickuwo> or actually..

22:22 <nickuwo> 1 sec

22:22 <PovAddict> type 'directory' followed by the path to your ramsey_assimilator.C (without the filename though)

22:23 <PovAddict> like: directory /home/boincadm/boinc_stuff/

22:23 <PovAddict> then try bt again

22:24 <nickuwo> same thing

22:24 <PovAddict> ok

22:24 <PovAddict> type quit

22:24 <PovAddict> looks like your code wasn't compiled with debugging information

22:25 <PovAddict> do you remember how you *compiled* ramsey_assimilator.C? we were discussing linking earlier

22:25 <nickuwo> yes

22:25 <PovAddict> ok, recompile it adding the "-g" switch

22:26 <PovAddict> and relink (also with -g; not sure if it's necessary when linking but just in case :)

22:29 <nickuwo> ok

22:29 <nickuwo> gdb again

22:29 <PovAddict> yup

22:29 <PovAddict> run it, crash it, bt

22:29 <nickuwo> ooo

22:30 <nickuwo> strcmp

22:30 <PovAddict> got a line number this time? :)

22:30 <nickuwo> yea

22:30 <nickuwo> 77

22:31 <PovAddict>

22:32 <PovAddict> "Before calling getline, you should place in *lineptr the address of a buffer *n bytes long, allocated with malloc."

22:32 <PovAddict> oh size is a pointer too

22:32 <PovAddict> there we go

22:36 <nickuwo> invalid conversion from void* to char* line 72 -- is that the line_length?

22:36 <PovAddict> ah yes, stupid C++

22:36 <PovAddict> you need to cast it

22:36 <PovAddict> (char*)malloc(1024);

22:36 <nickuwo> (char*)

22:36 <nickuwo> ok

22:36 <nickuwo> yea java

22:37 <PovAddict> if you were doing it the real C++ way, you wouldn't have those problems anyway :)

22:37 <PovAddict> ...yeah I just noticed that will memleak :\

22:37 <nickuwo> haha :) I have no idea what im doing

22:37 <nickuwo> mmm

22:37 <nickuwo> why?

22:38 <PovAddict> never freeing the line

22:38 <nickuwo> lineptr

22:38 <PovAddict>

22:42 <nickuwo> now it's segfaulting in getline

22:42 <PovAddict> pastebin code

22:44 <nickuwo> theres the gdb at the end too

22:45 <PovAddict> ah yes hrm

22:45 <quail> arseholes (rissoles)

22:45 <PovAddict> size_t line_length = 1024;

22:45 <quail> 1Kg mince

22:45 <Romulus> What I'm going to be flared out?

22:45 <quail> 1 - 2 onions (diced)

22:45 <quail> garlic

22:46 <quail> corriander

22:46 <quail> cumin

22:46 <quail> 2 eggs

22:46 <quail> breadcrumbc

22:46 <quail> 100g dejon mustard

22:46 <quail> salt & pepper

22:47 <quail> sweat the onion and garlic in a pan

22:47 <quail> and mix with the rest the ingedients in a big bowl

22:47 <quail> add the breadcrumbs as needed

22:47 <quail> try sambal oelek in the mix after you tried ^ mix

22:50 <nickuwo> same thing

22:50 <nickuwo> hmm

22:51 <PovAddict> setting line_length explicitly?

22:51 <nickuwo> yea

22:51 <nickuwo> line_length = 1024;

22:51 <PovAddict> you recompiled and all?

22:51 <nickuwo> twice

22:51 <PovAddict> segfault on getline?

22:52 <nickuwo> looks like getdelim() called by getline(), yea

22:52 <PovAddict> fine, let's do it the C++ wau

22:52 <PovAddict> way*

22:52 <nickuwo> good, this will be educational

22:53 <PovAddict> btw, I noticed another leak on your current code

22:53 <PovAddict> file handles

22:54 <PovAddict> never doing fclose(f)

22:54 <nickuwo> after I'm done with f, I do fclose(f)... ok

22:54 <Romulus> so where is that case xD

22:58 <MTughan> What to do when kill -9 won't kill a process?

22:58 <PovAddict> reboot?

22:58 <PovAddict> what process is it?

22:58 <nickuwo> init 6

22:58 <MTughan> wine

22:58 <nickuwo> whine?

22:58 <nickuwo> o nm

22:58 <MTughan> Taking 50% CPU.

22:59 <MTughan> On my Mac, means half of one core.

23:00 <MTughan> Is reboot all that's left?

23:00 <PovAddict> what's its nice level?

23:01 <MTughan> Can top tell you that? Activity Monitor doesn't.

23:01 <MTughan> Apparently not...

23:01 <Romulus> ..stopped before they break... reminds me of Seti? ;)

23:02 <quail> MTughan: wine runs couple diff apps at once

23:04 <MTughan> The process that is being listed has a nice of 0.

23:04 <PovAddict> (untested, may not compile at all)

23:04 <PovAddict> nickuwo: ^^

23:04 <MTughan> quail: How would I find those?

23:04 <nickuwo> thx, I'll take a look at it, might have a few Q's tho

23:04 <PovAddict> MTughan: any way to do a process tree?

23:04 <nickuwo> if you don't mind...

23:06 <MTughan> I don't know. I have full command line access.

23:06 <PovAddict> ps auxf

23:06 <PovAddict> f is to make a "process forest" :)

23:06 <MTughan> Illegal option -- f

23:06 <PovAddict> "man ps" and search, then

23:06 <PovAddict> f might be a GNU-specific option

23:07 <nickuwo> I'm hoping std::string defines != as well...

23:07 <MTughan> grep doesn't find "forest" in man ps.

23:07 <PovAddict> tree?

23:07 <PovAddict> nickuwo:

23:07 <MTughan> Nope.

23:08 <PovAddict> activity monitor may have some way?

23:08 * KathrynM is back (gone 02:42:35)

23:08 <MTughan> Not that I've seen. It can get the parent process, but I've never see a tree.

23:08 <PovAddict> <- have a look at the menu saying "Administrator processes" on that screenshot

23:08 <MTughan> Wait, there is.

23:09 * KathrynM likes ps auxf

23:09 <KathrynM> I've never stuck the f in there before

23:09 <MTughan> Nope, I have another way.

23:10 <MTughan> Nope. kernel_task -> launchd -> wineserver -> wine

23:10 <MTughan> That's all.

23:11 <PovAddict> nothing *below* wine?

23:11 <PovAddict> tasks whose parent task is wine?

23:11 <MTughan> Nope.

23:11 <MTughan> Although that tree did help me discover why BOINC wouldn't launch.

23:12 <nickuwo> thx Pov, if you ever need help with math/philosophy, lemme know : )

23:14 <KathrynM> hey PovAddict, do you know any Perl?

23:15 <PovAddict> nope, but MTughan does

23:15 <MTughan> That I do.

23:15 <KathrynM> Just curious.  I might start an online Perl course and it would be nice to have friends to ask questions.  I always feel like a dummy on mailing lists

23:15 <MTughan> You might start one or enroll in one?

23:15 <MTughan> enrol*

23:16 <KathrynM> enroll in one

23:16 <KathrynM> It's free from LInuxChixs

23:16 <KathrynM> (no jokes please)

23:16 <MTughan> No, I was just wondering why you would start a course if you didn't know that much about Perl. :P

23:17 <KathrynM> that much would be a stretch.  I know nothing

23:24 <PovAddict> nickuwo: how do I copy a file in Java?

23:24 <PovAddict> write my own code to read from one and write to the other?

23:27 <nickuwo> I believe so

23:28 <PovAddict> what do you think of this?

23:28 <PovAddict> of course it's missing all the error handling, but...

23:29 <nickuwo>

23:29 <Romulus> <> (at

23:30 <nickuwo> Looks pretty nice

23:32 <nickuwo> java is so beautiful...

23:35 <nickuwo> pov, your name is nick? rock on

23:35 <PovAddict> lol

23:36 <KathrynM> and he has a small Korean boy named in honor of him :)

23:36 <wdsmia> rofl

23:36 <KathrynM> But I don't have the kid as a student anymore

23:36 <KathrynM> Jack has one too.  And Eric.  And Charlie.  And David. :-)

23:36 <KathrynM> I have no imagination.

23:37 <nickuwo> I can only dream of the day when I have a little korean boy named after me...

23:37 <KathrynM> lol

23:37 <KathrynM> Next little boy I get will be named Nick.

23:38 <nickuwo> he's gonna kick ass too

23:38 <KathrynM> sadly Jack (my Jack) is  a bit slow.

23:38 <nickuwo> bummer

23:38 <KathrynM> at least he doesn't cry thoughout class

23:39 <KathrynM> or insist on sitting on my lap the whole time

23:39 <nickuwo> kathryn, are you student teaching over there, or ?

23:39 <KathrynM> nope

23:39 <KathrynM> All you need is a bachelors to teach over here.

23:40 <KathrynM> a bachelors in anything

23:40 <nickuwo> really...

23:40 <nickuwo> is it fun?

23:40 <KathrynM> usually.

23:40 <KathrynM> There are ups and downs

23:41 <nickuwo> is it a program of some sort, or do you just contact the south korean gov, or something?

23:42 <KathrynM> There are recruiters that schools use.

23:45 <KathrynM> back to the rugrats.

23:45 <KathrynM> laterz

23:45 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

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