00:07 <MTughan> roflmao!!!
00:07 <MTughan> &cad
00:07 <MTughan> It's great!
00:07 <Romulus> well I need to run an update
00:07 <Soul_keeper> hmmm
00:26 <KathrynM> lol @ Romulus
00:35 * KathrynM is back (gone 03:37:06)
00:36 <KathrynM> hmmm... didn't realize I was gone
00:36 <KathrynM> Oh well off to w%@&
00:36 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
00:48 <Soul_keeper> is it just ironic that my favorite porn star's bday is one day after mine ?
00:50 <Didactylos> Not really.
00:50 <Didactylos> My mother and sister-in-law have the same birthday.
00:51 <Didactylos> Elementary statistics....
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00:56 <Soul_keeper> figures
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01:30 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
01:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 60.6°F / 15.9°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1000.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 40 (1 more message)
01:30 <CoderForLife> &more
01:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 70 percent.;
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02:02 <efc> &weather 31088
02:02 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 60°F / 16°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.02in / 1016hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds becoming southeast up to 5 mph after midnight.; Wednesday - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. South winds 5 to 15 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly (1 more message)
02:09 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023
02:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35°F / 2°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 36 on the North Rim to around 49 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Wednesday - Warmer. Partly cloudy. Highs around 62 on the North Rim to around 89 along (1 more message)
02:10 <BadBarbarian> &more
02:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: the Colorado River. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the late morning and afternoon.; Wednesday Night - Breezy. Partly cloudy. Lows around 37 on the North Rim to around 50 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds 15 to 25 mph until early morning becoming light.;
02:10 <efc> Chilly
02:10 <BadBarbarian> yep living at over 7000 feet can do that lol...
02:10 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046
02:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.8°F / 2.1°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 23.54in / 797.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers in the evening...partly cloudy after midnight. Lows 34 to 40. West winds around 15 mph early in the evening becoming light. Chance of precipitation 10 percent.; Wednesday - Warmer. Partly (1 more message)
02:11 <BadBarbarian> &more
02:11 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: cloudy. Highs 64 to 72. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 34 to 42. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph until early morning becoming light.;
02:13 <efc> Sounds nice
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02:16 <BadBarbarian> cold at nite warm in the day thats the high desert for you
02:19 <efc> Get good solar insolation there?
02:19 <BadBarbarian> my house is totally solar
02:20 <efc> Awesome
02:20 <BadBarbarian> i live 15 mile from the nearest blacktop road lol
02:20 <efc> Perfect
02:20 <BadBarbarian> my ISP is wireless from a moutain 20 miles from here
02:21 <BadBarbarian> its nice here
02:21 <BadBarbarian> quiet
02:22 <efc> Do you have to drive in somewhere every day?
02:22 <BadBarbarian> only real hassle is theres no water have to truck it in
02:22 <BadBarbarian> yes
02:22 <efc> For me to get nicely out in the boonies its at least 30 minutes/miles
02:23 <BadBarbarian> my old 91 geo metro is still running lol
02:23 <BadBarbarian> 50 MPG
02:23 <efc> It might be worth more than you paid for it now
02:23 <BadBarbarian> its on its 4th motor
02:23 <BadBarbarian> get them used out of japan for 500.00 dilvered
02:25 <BadBarbarian> lol i use 1 gal round trip to work
02:26 <BadBarbarian> we had our first rain of the year today no dust for a change lol ...
02:27 <BadBarbarian> well good nite got to get some rest its 11.30 here and i have to get up at 6am
02:27 <efc> If you just had a good falling stream you'd be all set for the apocalypse
02:27 <efc> Night BB
02:27 <BadBarbarian> i could get by on the rain water i get
02:28 <efc> Falling water more for power.. good 24/7 source even if kinda slow
02:29 <BadBarbarian> my solar set up is good i get about 800 watts per hr and 25 very large truck batterys
02:30 <efc> Running off that now?
02:30 <BadBarbarian> yep
02:30 <efc> Would tend to discourage the quad core SLI setup hehe
02:30 <BadBarbarian> almost all the stuff in the house is 12 volt
02:31 <BadBarbarian> got it running on a 600 watt ps
02:32 <efc> Nice. Solar hot water heater?
02:32 <BadBarbarian> i still think i like the 1 gig 8600 over the 512 8800
02:32 <BadBarbarian> yes
02:32 <BadBarbarian> and a fireplace water heater for winter
02:32 <efc> Hehe, can I buy your place
02:32 <BadBarbarian> not a chance lol
02:33 <efc> The Land Of Subdivisions sux
02:33 <BadBarbarian> i here you northern arizona is still wild more goverment land than private
02:34 <BadBarbarian> i am surround on 3 sides by natinal forest
02:34 <efc> When we had our lake place it was great, surrounded by national forest. probably 75%+ of that county is national forest.
02:34 <BadBarbarian> nice
02:34 <BadBarbarian> wheres here
02:34 <efc> Roads/trails to hike etc
02:34 <efc> Georgia
02:35 <efc> that was in Rabun Co, the northeast corner
02:35 <BadBarbarian> nice i have been there
02:35 <efc> dad sold it unfortunately
02:35 <BadBarbarian> fort benning and fort bragg
02:36 <BadBarbarian> of course bragg is in north carrolina lol
02:36 <efc> Probably similar terrain if its in the mountains
02:37 <BadBarbarian> nope flat and lots of forests
02:37 <BadBarbarian> well i need to go see ya efc
02:37 <efc> Night!
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02:51 <CoderForLife> moo
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03:02 <CoderForLife> un-moo
03:02 * CoderForLife goes back to bed
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04:33 <desti> passed 1 mio einstein credits \o/
04:50 <efc> &math convert 3890 C to F
04:50 <Romulus> efc: 7034.0
04:50 <Romulus> lol - don't f***ing print that!!
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04:52 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 57.9°F / 14.4°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.55in / 1000.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers until late afternoon...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms late. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of (1 more message)
04:53 <CoderForLife> &more
04:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Lows around 60. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Thursday - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then showers and thunderstorms late. Highs in the lower 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.;
04:54 <efc> send de rain
04:55 * CoderForLife presses the Easy button for efc
04:56 <efc> oh no, not that button
04:57 * CoderForLife watches as efc is buried in packages of dehydrated rain
04:58 <CoderForLife> and shipping was free!
05:03 <CoderForLife> breakfast time - brb
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05:50 <CoderForLife> b and gone
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06:24 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
06:24 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 60.5°F / 15.8°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1002.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy in the morning then becoming partly sunny. High in the lower 70s. West wind 5 to 15 mph shifting to the north around 15 mph in the afternoon. Gusts up to 25 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 40s. Northeast wind (1 more message)
06:24 <wdsmia> &more
06:24 <Romulus> wdsmia: 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the mid 60s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph.;
06:25 <hawmps> 'lo
06:25 <wdsmia> mornin
06:25 <KathrynM> mornin'
06:28 <hawmps> moanin even
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08:33 <KathrynM> grrrrr... no wonder students are always starting sentences with "so" and "because". Their Korean English teachers do the same thing.
08:34 <exco> :-)
08:35 <exco> so how are you today, KathrynM?
08:35 <KathrynM> not bad exco
08:35 <KathrynM> And you?
08:35 <Romulus> hmm... And you are playing war, KathrynM
08:36 <exco> thanks, doing fine
08:36 * KathrynM waves a large rare earth magnet over Romulus' hard drive
08:37 * exco tries to stop her and looses all his "valuable" data
08:37 <KathrynM> lol
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08:48 <KathrynM> oh dear....
08:48 <KathrynM> Harin, I think you would cry all of the year if you aren't a book.
08:48 <KathrynM> This makes me want to gouge my eyes out. This is how a teacher translated a student's work.
08:59 <hawmps> google translate?
09:00 <KathrynM> nope. it was the teacher because I saw her typing it up...
09:00 <KathrynM> And apparently I have two more of these to go through.
09:00 <KathrynM> And do you think I'm getting paid for it?
09:00 <hawmps> 2 frowny faces.
09:00 <KathrynM> yup
09:01 <KathrynM> I'm not a very happy camper.
09:01 <KathrynM> The first copy she sent, she saved as a .hwp file. Uhhhh... how many times have I asked for a licence for that crappy software so I can do stuff like this at home?
09:19 <hawmps> ..when throwing hard objects is not an option...
09:20 <KathrynM> oooooooooooo... CATS is coming to Ulsan.
09:20 <Romulus> and if not longer lurking
09:20 <hawmps> going to go see it?
09:21 <KathrynM> dunno. I'll have to find details on when and where.
09:24 * KathrynM slowly and steadily bangs her head on her desk.
09:58 * Tank_Master is listening to: David West - Make U Mine (Mike Shiver`s Garden State Mix)
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10:01 <Tank_Master> E30!
10:02 <e-30> yep i am back now
10:02 <e-30> yea
10:03 <Tank_Master> wb
10:03 <e-30> thanks a lot how are you doing
10:03 <Tank_Master> better than KM
10:03 <e-30> lol
10:03 <Tank_Master> she's banging her head on the table
10:03 <e-30> why
10:04 <Tank_Master> dunno
10:04 <e-30> oh lol
10:04 <Tank_Master> im to lazy to scrole up
10:04 <e-30> there is my computer now
10:05 <e-30> i hope it sends
10:05 <Tank_Master> (unable to connect)
10:05 <e-30> dam still not able to send
10:06 <Tank_Master> theres always photobucket
10:06 <KathrynM> banging my head is finished
10:06 <KathrynM> as is gouging my eyes out.
10:06 <KathrynM> I hate editing things the Korean teachers have translated to English.
10:06 <Tank_Master> ahh, hence all the blood
10:07 <Tank_Master> then why do it?
10:07 <KathrynM> We're told to.
10:07 <Tank_Master> oh, right
10:07 <KathrynM> Lucky me has two more to do in the next few days too.
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10:07 <KathrynM> stupid speech contests the kids do
10:07 <Tank_Master> sounds fun
10:08 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Mine - post number 1010540 (at pastebin.ca)
10:08 <KathrynM> That's what I started with.
10:09 <BadBarbarian> Mornin
10:09 <e-30> there it is
10:09 <KathrynM> holy cow
10:11 <BadBarbarian> whats that clocked at e-30 hehe
10:11 <e-30> 3ghz quad core
10:11 <e-30> my dule core was up to 3.8ghz
10:12 <BadBarbarian> nice
10:12 <e-30> for some reason the q6600 runs hot even on watter
10:12 <Tank_Master> my quad is at 3.41
10:13 <e-30> nice
10:13 <e-30> i have not push it past 3 ghz
10:13 <Tank_Master> its running at 72C with a big typhoon
10:13 <e-30> it runs at 50 c
10:13 <e-30> dam i cant keep that temp there
10:13 <Tank_Master> the tjunt to 100C
10:13 <Tank_Master> for mine
10:13 <e-30> i dont try to over 55c
10:14 <e-30> too hot it will burn it self up soon
10:15 <Tank_Master> im getting a 9450 by week's ebd anyway
10:15 <Tank_Master> and*
10:15 <e-30> how long can you keep it on
10:15 <Tank_Master> end**
10:15 <Tank_Master> its stable 24x7
10:16 <e-30> my stays on for like 3 week at a time
10:16 <e-30> cool
10:16 <Tank_Master> only crached twice at this speed in the past month n a half
10:18 <e-30> not bad
10:18 <e-30> well waht ram do you have
10:18 <e-30> i am running ocz reapper 800 mhz
10:18 <e-30> and a abit board
10:20 <Tank_Master> 4x1GB Kingston HyperX
10:20 <Tank_Master> asus mobo
10:20 <e-30> not bad
10:20 <e-30> i a running 4 gb too
10:20 <e-30> not bad
10:21 <Tank_Master> its DDR2 800 and I am running at 620 with 3-3-3-9-3 timmings
10:21 <Tank_Master> 1:1 with the FSB
10:21 <Tank_Master> core2s perform better wih 1:1 setting
10:25 <Tank_Master> If corn oil is made from corn, and vegetable oil is made from vegetables, what is baby oil made from?
10:25 <Romulus> no... my wrapped prog what to make more?
10:26 <e-30> yea
10:27 <e-30> i am running at 800 and 4 4 4 15
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10:28 <e-30> humm
10:30 <KathrynM> &nn
10:30 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
10:30 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
10:30 <Tank_Master> tc
10:31 <e-30> well i am not infront of it so i dont know
10:31 <Tank_Master> ?
10:32 <e-30> the last number i dont rember
10:32 <Tank_Master> ahh
10:32 <Tank_Master> most likely 4
10:32 <e-30> yea
10:32 <e-30> t2 timeing
10:33 <e-30> how much power are you running to you cpu
10:33 <Tank_Master> 1.438v
10:33 <e-30> wow
10:33 <Tank_Master> 1.4385
10:33 <e-30> 1.35
10:34 <Tank_Master> you can do more safely
10:34 <e-30> i know
10:34 <Tank_Master> I dont go over 1.45
10:34 <e-30> it womnt boot
10:34 <Tank_Master> huh
10:35 <e-30> i go to 1.4 and no boot
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11:02 <gregor_> hi
11:03 <gregor_> does anybody use boinc on fedora 8 (184.108.40.206-85.fc8)?
11:04 <desti> dunno
11:04 <Tank_Master> there are people who do, yes
11:05 <gregor_> oh good
11:05 <Tank_Master> but I'm not one of them
11:05 <gregor_> i installed it from the repos but it does not work
11:07 <desti> what does not work?
11:08 <gregor_> when i start boinc and the boincmgr
11:08 <gregor_> boinc aborted with "*** buffer overflow detected ***: boinc terminated"
11:09 <gregor_> and many backtrace informations
11:12 <desti> strange
11:13 <desti> have you tried the boinc package from berkley?
11:21 <gregor_> no
11:22 <gregor_> actually i reinstall boinc
11:27 <e-30> humm
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11:50 <gregor_> when i run "boinc --run_cpu_benchmarks" i also get the error
12:00 <BadBarbarian> what should a q6600 get foe rac on abc at 2.4
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12:44 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
12:44 <yoyo[RKN]> what happens if I change the URL of my boinc project?
12:44 <yoyo[RKN]> where is it stored in the DB
12:44 <Romulus> worker input is fine now. It looked something like 910 won to the tester
12:45 <yoyo[RKN]> I assume that URL is stored in application and result table
12:49 <hawmps> isn't that the "master url" thingy?
12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> yes
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12:55 <hawmps> doubt it can be dynamic...
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13:11 <PovAddict> yoyo[RKN]: simple answer: don't
13:11 <yoyo[RKN]> but if I must?
13:11 <yoyo[RKN]> I can keep the old url working
13:11 <hawmps> link one url to the other, or use a reflector
13:12 <yoyo[RKN]> I currently forward the old one to the new one
13:12 <yoyo[RKN]> since some month
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13:14 <PovAddict> that's why projects should use "generic" URLs since the beginning, not tied to the hosting they use or the university etc
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13:16 <E-30> hey
13:18 <PovAddict> gregor_: still around?
13:18 <E-30> hey pov
13:18 <E-30> how are you doing
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13:19 <hawmps> 'lo E
13:19 <Romulus> xcamel: TheGasGiant and I am getting an *un*truncated list of projects
13:19 <E-30> hey well i am in oklahome now and happy as hell now lol
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13:21 <E-30> othe then my quad had to go down till the 23 waa
13:21 <E-30> they are moveing it now
13:26 <gregor_> PovAddict: boinc now works :)
13:27 <E-30> yea
13:27 <PovAddict> good :)
13:32 <E-30> well i lost the quad till the 24 but i got the duo back up an running so i wont get cut that bad now
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13:56 <Ageless93> hmm, now I am not sure if it does what I think it did. Ever had that?
13:56 <Ageless93> anyone here with a fresh install of BOINC 6.2.1 on Windows?
13:57 <Ageless93> if so, is there a BOINC Manager link in the Startup folder?
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14:31 <gregor_> :)
14:32 <gregor_> another trouble
14:32 <gregor_> i set the boinc password at /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg (fedora 8)
14:33 <gregor_> then i start the service (/etc/init.d/boinc start)
14:33 <gregor_> then i connect with "boinc_cmd --host localhost --passwd test" and i get the message
14:33 <gregor_> "Authorization failure: -155"
14:34 <PovAddict> wasn't the service *already* started?
14:34 <PovAddict> (in which case you have to 'restart', not 'start')
14:34 <gregor_> dont know
14:34 <gregor_> i stop it first
14:38 <gregor_> any ideas?
14:39 <PovAddict> nope...
14:39 <PovAddict> if you use --passwd test
14:39 <PovAddict> and "cat /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg" shows "test" too
14:39 <gregor_> yes
14:39 <PovAddict> and you restarted the service... I don't see why it wouldn't work
14:40 <gregor_> which permissions need the files at /var/lib/boinc
14:40 <gregor_> ?
14:43 * Tank_Master smells W@^& and moves on
14:54 <gregor_> which permission do you have on gui_rpc_auth.cfg ?
14:56 <PovAddict> -rw-r----- 1 root boinc 1 2008-04-18 12:53 gui_rpc_auth.cfg
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15:00 <gregor_> hm without a password in the gui*.cfg file it works
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15:07 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
15:07 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 66.3°F / 19.1°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.41in / 995.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers late this morning...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 40 (2 more messages)
15:07 <CoderForLife> &more
15:07 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then showers and thunderstorms likely after midnight. Lows around 60. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Thursday - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the morning...then showers and thunderstorms late. Highs in the lower 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 (1 more message)
15:07 <CoderForLife> &more
15:07 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.;
15:07 <CoderForLife> "percent" to you, too, Rommie
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15:18 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123
15:18 <Tank_Master> &more
15:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 52.5°F / 11.4°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. Patchy drizzle in the morning. Highs around 60. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy. Patchy drizzle after midnight. Lows around 45. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph becoming (1 more message)
15:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: light after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. Patchy drizzle in the morning. Highs around 60. West wind 5 to 10 mph.;
15:19 <Tank_Master> heh, love that word
15:19 <Tank_Master> drizzel
15:19 <Tank_Master> drizzle*
15:21 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin, germany
15:21 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 63Â°F / 17Â°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CEST; Scattered Clouds. High:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. (1 more message)
15:21 <Tank_Master> oh, yoyo's here, should I head to bed?
15:21 <yoyo[RKN]> you are to early
15:21 <Tank_Master> lol
15:21 <Tank_Master> or to late
15:22 <yoyo[RKN]> but i'm tired
15:23 <CoderForLife> "drizzle" (n.) - an annoying file transfer protocol used by Microsoft to allow spare bandwidth to be used to infect your PC with updates
15:24 <Tank_Master> o.O?
15:24 <Didactylos> They renamed BITS?
15:24 <Tank_Master> you sure its not round bandwith?
15:24 <CoderForLife> no - they renamed drizzle
15:25 <CoderForLife> Marketing didn't like the concept of MS drizzling on PCs
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15:29 <gregor_> where save boincmgr the settings for the clients?
15:30 <Tank_Master> client_state.xml
15:30 <gregor_> when i connect to a client with the boincmgr and restart the gui (close, open) the mgr lost the settings
15:30 <Tank_Master> ahh, that I dont know
15:31 <Tank_Master> it seems as though simetimes it gets saved and sometimes it doesnt on Windows
15:31 <gregor_> sry i use linux (fedora 8)
15:31 <Didactylos> It's in the registry.
15:31 <gregor_> with root it works
15:32 <Didactylos> Scratch that.
15:32 <Tank_Master> (my point is that do to the inconsistant nature, its had to tell)
15:32 <PovAddict> the window position and stuff?
15:32 <Tank_Master> hard*
15:32 <PovAddict> or what settings?
15:32 <Romulus> hanging in there are still in the lists
15:33 <PovAddict> "~/.BOINC Manager" (omg a space in a filename!!!1)
15:34 <MTughan> Oh, and open source seems to be reeling... OOXML was approved as an ISO standard by a vote in early April, I think.
15:34 <MTughan> April 2.
15:35 <gregor_> anybody knows which arguments i can use with "boincmgr -b" ?
15:35 <PovAddict> boincmgr --help
15:36 <CoderForLife> late April Fool's Day joke, MTughan?
15:36 <MTughan> I wish...
15:36 <Tank_Master> lol
15:36 <MTughan> "The Microsoft Office Open XML format received the necessary votes for approval as an ISO/IEC Standard as the result of a JTC 1 fast tracking standardization process that concluded in April 2008. Subject to there being no formal appeals from ISO/IEC national bodies in the next two months, the text of the standard will be published as ISO/IEC 29500."
15:37 <Tank_Master> cool
15:37 <MTughan> Cool? What's wrong with ODF?
15:37 <CoderForLife> ... and just for the record to confirm my memory - "Drizzle" was the code name for BITS, according to Dr. Google
15:38 <PovAddict> since when TM knows what he's talking about...
15:38 <gregor_> ï»¿PovAddict: you run "boincmgr --help" on your maschine?
15:38 * CoderForLife is getting to the age that his memory is quite suspect
15:38 <gregor_> i get no answers with --help
15:38 <gregor_> or with "man boincmgr"
15:38 <PovAddict> oh, "Startup BOINC with these optional arguments"?
15:38 <MTughan> "-b, --boincargs Startup BOINC with these optional arguments"
15:39 <Romulus> I just now did an update unless something happens I should do the Bolteks get their voice recognition to recognize my SP4 either. :(
15:39 <PovAddict> that won't work, the client is already started by the init.d script
15:39 <gregor_> LOL
15:39 <Tank_Master> :P
15:40 <gregor_> bye
15:40 <MTughan> I think the arguments it's talking about are the ones passed to the core client?
15:40 <MTughan> Which are found with "./boinc --help"
15:40 <PovAddict> yup, but the manager isn't starting the core client here
15:40 <gregor_> it better when im looking in the manual
15:40 <gregor_> there i find answers
15:40 <MTughan> Ah, so -b isn't helpful or useful.
15:40 <gregor_> bye
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15:41 <PovAddict> it's already started on boot by the init.d script
15:41 <Tank_Master> apparently not
15:41 <MTughan> The core client? Not here.
15:41 <PovAddict> he installed it from yum
15:41 <PovAddict> the debian/ubuntu packages do the same too
15:41 <MTughan> How do you know?
15:42 <PovAddict> [12:05] <gregor_> i installed it from the repos but it does not work
15:42 <MTughan> Ah...
15:42 <PovAddict> and before: [12:03] <gregor_> does anybody use boinc on fedora 8 (220.127.116.11-85.fc8)?
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15:44 <MTughan> Are things started up by the /etc/init.d/ scripts run as root?
15:44 <Tank_Master> as to which I replied:
15:44 <Tank_Master> [2008:05:07:08:04:45] <Tank_Master> there are people who do, yes
15:45 <PovAddict> well, root runs the init.d scripts
15:45 <PovAddict> but the scripts usually change to the appropriate user for the task
15:46 <MTughan> Gonna change /etc/rc.local to boot the client on startup. If I don't do that, it's not usually started up for maybe hours on end.
15:46 <PovAddict> an Apache startup script would start it as root, then Apache itself would change to a limited user after opening port 80 (since only root can open ports <1024)
15:47 <PovAddict> init.d/boinc-client on ubuntu seems to use the "start-stop-daemon" tool, passing "--user boinc" to it
15:49 <MTughan> Ooh, cool... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holographic_Versatile_Disc
15:49 <PovAddict> I read about it like last year - looks like not much progress
15:50 <MTughan> In the process of being standardized, it seems. Read about it on the article for Ecma.
15:51 <Tank_Master> you can back up a lot of porn with one disk (or loose a lot)
15:52 <PovAddict> apparently a big problem is putting 1 watt lasers on consumer devices...
15:52 <Tank_Master> thats is quote a bit
15:52 <PovAddict> (due to cost, mostly)
15:52 <Tank_Master> quite*
15:53 <MTughan> Cost or power?
15:53 <PovAddict> "a major challenge of the project for widespread consumer markets is to either improve the sensitivity of the polymer used, or develop and commoditize a laser capable of higher power output and suitable for a consumer unit"
15:54 <quail> toasted ham/tomato/cheese snaggers for breakfast :-)
15:54 <MTughan> Could be either the power is too high or too expensive judging from that.
15:55 <PovAddict> well, there is the safety issue with 1w lasers...
15:55 <MTughan> Exactly.
15:55 <PovAddict> a laser from a normal CD player is unlikely to be dangerous
15:56 <PovAddict> or those "laser pointers"...
15:56 <quail> err toasties
15:57 <PovAddict> apart from that, there is the issue of manufacturing a reasonable stock of such lasers at a reasonable cost
15:57 <MTughan> With quantity comes price cuts.
15:58 <PovAddict> yup and no quantity yet :)
15:58 <PovAddict> did you see the $15k quote on wikipedia? :)
15:58 <MTughan> Heh, yeah.
15:58 <Romulus> This would be easier to hire 3-4 POV-type answer men.
16:04 <PovAddict> bah there's no good newsreaders...
16:04 <PovAddict> and the system needs to adapt to the current real world... like, putting your email address anywhere being a Bad Idea
16:05 <quail> PovAddict: look at 'liferea'
16:05 <PovAddict> I found an article about usenet and spam... I read about a paragraph, then noticed it was dated 1997 so I closed it...
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16:06 <PovAddict> the world has moved to their fancy web forums that load slow as hell and can't be used offline and don't have proper threading and...
16:07 <PovAddict> quail: not RSS... not that kind of 'news'
16:07 <Romulus> Title: News client - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
16:08 <quail> hehe, sorry I have just woken up not long ago
16:09 <PovAddict> most NNTP clients nowadays are warez-oriented
16:09 <PovAddict> for those people who abuse usenet for binary file posting
16:10 <quail> :-(
16:13 * CoderForLife suffers from being outside with the surveyor today
16:13 * CoderForLife got a snoot-full of pollen
16:13 <CoderForLife> I'm hurtin' for certain
16:15 <quail> :-(
16:15 <quail> CoderForLife: howdy Don
16:15 * CoderForLife sneezes
16:15 <CoderForLife> hi
16:17 * quail enjoyed his ham/tomato/cheese toasties for breakfast
16:23 <quail> CoderForLife: so what have you been up to?
16:25 <CoderForLife> just completed scanning our main file servers at w@#% to inventory spreadsheets, databases and the like for enterprise content management and Sarbanes-Oxley-like compliance
16:25 <CoderForLife> verrry exciting stuff
16:25 <PovAddict> databases and spreadsheets-abused-as-database-tables?
16:25 <quail> sounds like it CoderForLife
16:26 <CoderForLife> yes, and spreadsheets-abused-as-word-processors
16:26 <Romulus> apparently what Stripes wants: /ForumIndex.action, /ForumThread.action?id=42
16:26 <CoderForLife> and spreadsheets linked to together to form complicated systems
16:27 <CoderForLife> my scanner code processed nearly 6.9 billion spreadsheet cells, looking for formulas
16:28 <CoderForLife> about 25% of those contained formulas, and those I parsed in detail to examine functions being used, etc
16:29 <CoderForLife> er scanner Code, of course
16:29 <quail> w0w
16:29 <CoderForLife> I scanned approximately 325,000 spreadsheets
16:30 <quail> 1.5 billion formulas
16:30 <CoderForLife> now, I'm working to construct a database that we can analyze the results
16:30 <PovAddict> that sounds like information that should be stored elsewhere...
16:30 <CoderForLife> right quail
16:30 <CoderForLife> yes PovAddict
16:30 <CoderForLife> part of the effort was just to see what all we've accumulated
16:31 <CoderForLife> and what all "systems" we've built with Excel and Access
16:31 <CoderForLife> I updated my Y2K scanner for this purpose
16:31 * quail goes for another coffee, you like one CoderForLife ?
16:32 <MTughan> At this rate, the computers will need one more than CFL...
16:32 <CoderForLife> no - I'm going to see what's for dinner, and get the UPS package that just came
16:32 <quail> CoderForLife: it plunged coffee
16:33 <CoderForLife> I'm skeptical that Access can contain my results database, given the 2GB limit
16:33 <CoderForLife> I might give them a MySQL database
16:33 <CoderForLife> and let them query that for "reports"
16:34 <CoderForLife> I'm finishing up the Code to read the scanner log files (about 25GB) and summrize it
16:34 <CoderForLife> I'm expecting on the order of 1.6 million rows of summary data
16:35 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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16:40 <gregor_> hi, how can i manage several clients over the network?
16:40 <quail> boinc manager
16:41 <gregor_> ^^
16:41 <gregor_> can i view more then one client at the same time?
16:42 <PovAddict> not with the official manager
16:43 <Ageless93[Away]> you can if you start multiple boinc managers
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16:43 <gregor_> PovAddict: which manager you mean ^^
16:43 <PovAddict> I know of BOINCView but that's for Windows only
16:43 <quail> Ageless93: that not alot help :-/
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16:44 <quail> PovAddict: iirc there is a php one, but you need your own web server
16:45 <gregor_> np
16:50 <quail> lmao 'why should I pay for my own funeral? when I am not going to see it!?'
16:51 <gregor_> hm
16:54 * xcamel_away is back.
16:54 *** xcamel_away is now known as xcamel
16:55 <xcamel> re-hi
16:55 * wdsmia_w is gone bbiab
16:55 <quail> wb xcamel
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16:55 <xcamel> 'lo Q
16:55 <quail> xcamel: howdy
16:57 <xcamel> hows things down under?
17:01 <quail> fair to muddling, and you?
17:08 <MTughan> Discrepancy noticed on the AI front page: "To date we have simulated over 10,962,900,000 billion neurons. That is 10.9 billion neurons."
17:08 <MTughan> First figure states 10.9 quintillion neurons, second states 10.9 billion.
17:09 <xcamel> ditto
17:10 <xcamel> oopsie on the numbers..
17:15 <xcamel> yummy burgers for dinner..
17:16 <PovAddict> from a forum: "Given that my own 'spiritual orientation' is that of a 'Thank-God-I'm-an-Atheist' Eclectic Ironicist..."
17:16 <Romulus> 48x4 chips per x 6 cores each = 1152 cores
17:16 <quail> xcamel: email me one please :-)
17:36 <CoderForLife> back
17:38 <CoderForLife> talk to me when they exceed Data's ultimate storage capacity of 800 quadrillion bits
17:42 <MTughan> All right, well more games for me. Going to XP, be back in a couple hours.
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17:47 <xcamel> ran out of burgers just before I hit the send button... sorry.
17:48 <xcamel> IP kill >> 18.104.22.168 php forum hacker
17:50 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:50 <xcamel> storms die off after a bit?
17:50 <wdsmia> we lucked out and hit a gap between storms
17:51 <xcamel> that's what it looked like to me..
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17:51 <xcamel> bb after a walk..
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17:51 <wdsmia> didnt get anything but a good light show off in the distance
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18:00 <CoderForLife> thx for the plink, xcamel
18:13 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news May 7, 2008
18:24 <quail> stuff em >>> 22.214.171.124/24 :-)
18:26 <xcamel> still a beautiful 71.1 degrees...
18:27 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
18:27 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 65.7°F / 18.7°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 29.75in / 1007.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Cooler. Low in the upper 40s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 60s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Low (1 more message)
18:27 <wdsmia> &more
18:27 <Romulus> wdsmia: in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
18:27 <quail> &math convert 71.1 F C
18:27 <Romulus> quail: 21.7222222222
18:28 <quail> &wx ypad
18:28 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 55Â°F / 13Â°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 7:30 AM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Clear. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Clear. High:68 ° F. / 20 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Clear. High:69 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.;
18:53 <xcamel> winter closing in..
19:00 * KathrynM is back (gone 08:29:55)
19:00 <wdsmia> Good Morning Kathryn
19:01 <KathrynM> moanin
19:09 * CoderForLife moans a greeting
19:09 * KathrynM gives CoderForLife a dirty look for sending his allergies her way
19:09 * KathrynM sneezes
19:09 * CoderForLife tries to cram scanning sugar into an Access 2007 sack
19:11 <CoderForLife> hey, I didn't send them, and even if I did, why did you sign for the delivery?
19:11 <KathrynM> because it said it was a new quad
19:11 <CoderForLife> I'd send them back - return to sender
19:11 <CoderForLife> postage due
19:11 <KathrynM> it's like pandora's box. once they're loose..............
19:11 <CoderForLife> The Satan Bug - ack
19:15 <CoderForLife> well - after being up half the night last night finishing up server scans, I'm beat
19:15 <KathrynM> get some sleep CoderForLife . The Code will wait until morning
19:15 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go read in bed until Mr. Sandman hits me ober the head
19:15 <CoderForLife> ober?
19:16 <CoderForLife> he must be German
19:16 <CoderForLife> yup - off to Dreamland
19:16 <CoderForLife> (the name of the first roller-skaing rink I ever went to)
19:17 * CoderForLife waves the Access 2007 reference manual
19:17 * KathrynM waves a slice of pizza
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20:10 <xcamel> re-hi
20:16 * PovAddict gets Firefox
20:19 <KathrynM> don't like Konqueror?
20:19 <PovAddict> I really miss some stuff in Konqueror
20:20 <Romulus> it's supposed to create my account manager (or do RPC if already attached). [
20:20 <PovAddict> like "undo close tab", or closing tabs with middle mouse button
20:20 <PovAddict> and soon I'd start missing some plugins
20:20 <KathrynM> I never got into Konqueror.
20:20 <xcamel> opera is pretty good too
20:20 <xcamel> faster than firefox
20:21 <KathrynM> woo hoo! 750K
20:22 <xcamel> credit?
20:22 <KathrynM> yup
20:22 <xcamel> congrats!
20:22 <KathrynM> thanks.
20:23 <KathrynM> 83 days to the 1 million mark
20:23 <KathrynM> or says boincstats
20:24 <KathrynM> and now off to w^@*&
20:24 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
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20:27 <xcamel> 'lo BB
20:35 <PovAddict> &ping
20:35 <Romulus> pong
20:37 <quail> PovAddict: middle mouse botton closes firefox tabs and 'ctrl + shift + r' to undo closed tab
20:38 <PovAddict> quail: yeah I know; none of those features are in Konqueror, that's why I just installed Firefox
20:38 <BadBarbarian> "lo Xcamel
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20:39 <quail> 09:50:08 < PovAddict> I really miss some stuff in Konqueror
20:39 <quail> 09:50:25 < PovAddict> like "undo close tab", or closing tabs with middle mouse button
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20:39 <quail> PovAddict: hence my reply
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20:53 * xcamel yawns
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21:22 <xcamel> &wx 12074
21:22 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 61.6°F / 16.4°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - A chance of showers this evening...then showers likely after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph... increasing to around 15 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of (2 more messages)
21:22 <xcamel> &more
21:22 <Romulus> xcamel: showers in the morning... then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of rain after midnight. Cooler with lows in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph in the evening...becoming light and variable. (1 more message)
21:22 <xcamel> &more
21:22 <Romulus> xcamel: Chance of rain 30 percent.;
21:23 <xcamel> more flowers..
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21:54 <xcamel> nytol..
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23:07 <wdsmia> &ping
23:07 <Romulus> pong
23:08 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
23:08 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 57.0°F / 13.9°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Cooler. Low in the upper 40s. Northeast wind around 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 60s. Northeast wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming (1 more message)
23:08 <wdsmia> &more
23:08 <Romulus> wdsmia: mostly cloudy. Low in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.;
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23:43 <MTughan> Quick question: is it possible, or even a good idea, to have two core clients running on the same machine?
23:44 <PovAddict> first problem you'll have: one will fail to bind the GUIRPC port
23:44 <MTughan> The core client does have an argument to change the GUI RPC port, so I wouldn't have port issues.
23:45 <MTughan> "--gui_rpc_port <port> port for GUI RPCs"
23:45 <MTughan> As to how to make the manager connect to a different port...
23:45 <PovAddict> I think recent mgrs support typing a hostname:port on the "Connect to computer" dialog
23:46 <PovAddict> but I just thought of something else
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23:46 <PovAddict> shared memory to talk to the science apps
23:46 <PovAddict> I'm not sure how it's implemented in Linux nowadays
23:46 <MTughan> Hmm... Yeah.
23:46 <MTughan> The manager does support that syntax BTW. localhost:31412 doesn't connect.
23:46 <PovAddict> but I recall seeing something like boincshmem_0 for the app running in slot 0
23:47 <PovAddict> so if you have two clients, and both start an app on their own slot 0... things *might* asplode
23:47 <MTughan> I've mailed the BOINC alpha list. Oh, but I didn't mention the OS...
23:49 <MTughan> Well, I'll see what pops up tomorrow. I've got to go to bed.
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23:54 <MTughan> Heh... I can now say Linux is really fast. Got Tux going down a hill at 190km/h. xD
23:55 <MTughan> &math convert 190 km to miles
23:55 <Romulus> MTughan: 118.060526525
23:55 <efc> moo
23:56 <MTughan> 201km/h!
23:56 <MTughan> This is one fast penguin... :P
23:56 <PovAddict> people say Linux hardware support is poor
23:56 <PovAddict> so far, wrt printer and scanner... it was easier than on Windows
23:57 <PovAddict> I had to manually load a kernel module to get my old Palm Zire to get recognized, but otherwise little problems with it (syncs fine with the whole KDE PIM suite)
23:58 <PovAddict> well, the connection wizard segfaults :) but if I enter the config manually, the sync works just fine
23:58 <MTughan> Wanna bet how many people are going to do that?
23:58 <PovAddict> and, unlike on Windows with the official Palm Desktop software, I could actually debug the segfault if I wanted
23:59 <PovAddict> MTughan: not like the "wizard" does too much anyway
23:59 <MTughan> But if you want to see what I'm talking about, see if you can download Extreme Tux Racer.