IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-05-10

00:04 <PovAddict> uptime 3 days, 12:05

00:04 <PovAddict> that's 3d 12h without Windows

00:04 <KathrynM> :D

00:05 <PovAddict> I have a 2x2 desktop

00:07 <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/iSVvpkg.html <- caught it halfway moving from a viewport to another

00:07 <Romulus> Title: snapshot12.png (at imagebin.ca)

00:07 <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/5GrAss.html  <- Expo plugin showing the whole virtual desktop zommed out

00:07 <Romulus> Title: snapshot13.png (at imagebin.ca)

00:08 <KathrynM> nice

00:09 <PovAddict> while in Expo, I can move windows between viewports

00:09 <PovAddict> I find this more useful than the desktop cube

00:10 <KathrynM> I've not played a whole lot with that sort of stuff.

00:10 <KathrynM> I have two desktops and I switch with the little button in the panel.

00:10 <PovAddict> of course, it would be better if I had a screen big enough that I can use it on a 2560 x 2048 resolution :)

00:10 <KathrynM> :D

00:10 <PovAddict> no need for scrolling between viewports: the whole thing is visible

00:11 <PovAddict> btw, multiple desktops with a switcher has existing for a LONG time

00:12 * PovAddict installs vtwm

00:15 * PovAddict closes KDE desktop

00:19 * PovAddict gets back to compiz after taking screenshots

00:19 <efc> this is a cool BSG

00:20 <PovAddict> aww I saved only one of them

00:20 <PovAddict> just noticed what I did wrong with the "take screenshot" thing

00:20 <PovAddict> http://imagebin.ca/view/3Psgod.html

00:20 <Romulus> Title: snapshot14.png (at imagebin.ca)

00:21 <PovAddict> top left corner: list of open windows

00:21 <PovAddict> bottom right corner: the virtual desktop

00:21 <PovAddict> I can drag windows from the virtual desktop preview, and drag the visible area

00:22 <PovAddict> and... KDE panel :P

00:22 <PovAddict> an old-skool window manager doesn't really look old-skool with KDE apps running on it

00:22 * PovAddict looks at efc

00:23 <efc> waaaa

00:24 <PovAddict> I consider vtwm more usable than twm, even without the virtual desktop feature

00:24 <PovAddict> not sure why, they're quite similar actually :P

00:29 <bryanUC> question if anyone has a second....http://www.pastebin.ca/1013485  - how does 1 second of wall time equal out to > 269256.814129 seconds of CPU time?

00:29 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Anonymous - post number 1013485 (at www.pastebin.ca)

00:30 <PovAddict> was it starting from scratch? o.0

00:31 <bryanUC> yes

00:31 <bryanUC> brand new WU downloads

00:31 <bryanUC> (trying out a new app version before I release it to the masses)

00:33 <PovAddict> looks like the new app version is broke then :P

00:33 <bryanUC> but I don't get why

00:33 <bryanUC> lol

00:34 <PovAddict> well, the app reports its own CPU time

00:35 <PovAddict> ugh

00:35 <PovAddict> BOINC server seems to have run out of disk space

00:36 <PovAddict> can you repro it with further WUs or was it just those two?

00:36 <PovAddict> enable [app_msg_receive] debug flag

00:37 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/index.php/Client_configuration

00:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6zjlog> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

00:39 <bryanUC> I can reproduce it, yes

00:40 <bryanUC> it is related to remove boinc_wu_cpu_time(oldTime); from my wrapper

00:40 <bryanUC> which I found is not in the latest wrapper code, and seemed to always make a restarted WU's cpu time start @ 0

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01:40 <Tank_Master> did bryanUC break the server again?

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02:59 <efc> weird, I have a message on wikipedia saying I vandalized some random page

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04:37 <CoderForLife> morning

04:37 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 49.2F / 9.6C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Patchy fog this morning. Highs in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers late. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Sunday - (1 more message)

04:38 <CoderForLife> &more

04:38 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 60s. Southeast winds around 15 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

04:44 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

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04:49 <CoderForLife> dang

04:49 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

04:50 <CoderForLife> Sometimes when I press Tab, Miranda goes bye-bye-kaboom

04:50 <KathrynM> ouch

04:50 <KathrynM> suicidal irc

04:51 <CoderForLife> yup, K-a-tab-(heavy disk access)-blammo

04:51 <KathrynM> or you could just blame it on me

04:51 <CoderForLife> P-o-tab also works

04:51 <KathrynM> lol

04:51 * KathrynM listens to stomach growling

04:52 <KathrynM> That means I'd need to shower and go to the store to get food.

04:52 <CoderForLife> I'll be running my errands in a bit

04:53 <KathrynM> I also need to buy blank DVDs so I can reburn Fedora 8.

04:53 <KathrynM> :/

04:53 <CoderForLife> a praiseworthy endeavor

04:54 <KathrynM> I was going to via yum, but after reading all the warnings on the Fedora site not to do so, I decided to go the DVD route :)

04:55 <CoderForLife> a version upgrade via yum?

04:55 <KathrynM> aparetly it can be done

04:55 <CoderForLife> not I

04:55 <KathrynM> yeah, I"m not feeling very adventurous.

04:55 <CoderForLife> I'll do either DVD or HTTP

04:56 <Romulus> I guess I missed it

04:57 * CoderForLife listens to stomach growling

04:57 <CoderForLife> it's saying "b-r-r-r-r-r-eakfast"

04:58 <CoderForLife> ah

04:58 * CoderForLife reads logwatch report e-mail

04:59 <KathrynM> go get breakfast

04:59 <KathrynM> I'm finishing a blog entry then I'm outta here

04:59 <CoderForLife> plink 200.254.23.130

04:59 <CoderForLife> ok ttyl

04:59 <KathrynM> anything interesting?

05:00 <KathrynM> laterz

05:00 <CoderForLife> um one bad actor (see plink)

05:00 <CoderForLife> greylisting blocked 868 e-mails

05:01 <KathrynM> ouch

05:01 <CoderForLife> 40% disk in use after I dropped a couple of gig on it last night

05:01 <CoderForLife> ouch to the spammers

05:01 <KathrynM> In a sort of geeky way, I enjoy reading the logwatch emails.

05:01 <CoderForLife> I read mine each day

05:01 <KathrynM> As do I.

05:02 <CoderForLife> ok - time to eat

05:02 <CoderForLife> laterz

05:02 * CoderForLife runs to the kitchen

05:02 <KathrynM> laterz

05:02 * KathrynM waves a cookbook

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05:54 * TheGasGiant saunters in and looks around...

05:55 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

05:55 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1023hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 7:30 PM EST; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Clear. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Clear. High:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Clear. High:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 F. / 9 C.;

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05:57 * TheGasGiant wonders if CoderForLife is around

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06:05 <CoderForLife> morning TheGasGiant

06:05 <CoderForLife> missed you last time

06:05 <CoderForLife> by about a half hour

06:06 <CoderForLife> TGG

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06:09 <CoderForLife> Paul

06:10 * CoderForLife sits looking out the window, watching the sky slowly brighten

06:13 * CoderForLife congratulates himself for having such patience with his Aussie friends

06:16 * CoderForLife drums his fingers on his desk

06:18 * CoderForLife whistles a little tune that he just made up

06:24 * CoderForLife goes to get ready for his Saturday morning errands

06:24 <CoderForLife> brb

06:32 <CoderForLife> b

06:33 <CoderForLife> off to the store - catcha again soon hopefully TheGasGiant

06:34 * CoderForLife shouts "up - up - and away!"

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06:49 <TheGasGiant> do'h

06:49 <TheGasGiant> missed by that much...again!

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06:51 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

06:51 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 45.1F / 7.3C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 23.59in / 798.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 65 to 73. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 28 to 36. Light winds.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs 66 to 74. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.;

06:51 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023

06:51 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 31F / -0.6C | Humidity: 41% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 2mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 62 on the North Rim to around 92 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 32 on the North Rim to around 49 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs around (1 more message)

06:51 <BadBarbarian> &more

06:51 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: 66 on the North Rim to around 93 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in the afternoon.;

06:52 <KathrynM> I'm back!  Did ya miss me?  :p

06:52 <BadBarbarian> lol was sleeping

06:52 <KathrynM> how dare you sleep?

06:53 <KathrynM> :D

06:53 <BadBarbarian> i need to get up in 2 hrs for work

06:54 <KathrynM> you said the w word...  I hope CoderForLife doesn't hear it.

06:54 <BadBarbarian> hes sleeping

06:55 <BadBarbarian> lol like i should be

06:55 <BadBarbarian> lol

06:55 <KathrynM> go sleep

06:55 <BadBarbarian> lol ok Nighy night

06:55 <KathrynM> nn

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07:22 <BadBarbarian> boo hissss RS is out of work lol

07:23 <BadBarbarian> server is down

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07:30 <xcamel> 'lo

07:30 <BadBarbarian> Rs ;lo xcamel

07:30 <xcamel> ip kill >> 82.165.252.186

07:30 <BadBarbarian> rs is down   :-(

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07:49 <xcamel> &wx 12020

07:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 48.8F / 9.3C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.57in / 1001.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the lower 60s. North winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. (1 more message)

07:49 <xcamel> &more

07:49 <Romulus> xcamel: Lows in the lower 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. North winds around 5 mph...becoming east around 5 mph in the afternoon.;

07:52 <xcamel> 'lo Paul..

07:52 <xcamel> if you're still there

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08:35 <xcamel> mighty quiet..

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08:55 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

08:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 52.0F / 11.1C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning...then showers likely and isolated thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 60s. South wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the southeast around 15 mph in (2 more messages)

08:55 <wdsmia> &more

08:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 70 percent.; Tonight - Showers and isolated thunderstorms. Windy. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Low in the mid 40s. Northeast wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph shifting to the northwest 20 to 30 mph with gusts to around 40 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.; Sunday - Cloudy with a chance of rain in the morning...then (1 more message)

08:55 <wdsmia> &more

08:55 <Romulus> wdsmia: partly sunny with a slight chance of showers in the afternoon. Windy. High in the upper 50s. Northwest wind 20 to 30 mph. Gusts up to 45 mph decreasing to 35 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 50 percent.; Areal Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 1:00 PM CDT on May 11, 2008; Wind Advisory for Polk County in effect until 10:00 AM CDT on May 11, 2008;

08:55 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

08:55 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

08:58 <xcamel> what was the deal with that idiot last night? Just a troll?

08:58 <wdsmia> yep

08:59 <xcamel> terminated?

09:00 <wdsmia> He's Dead Jim

09:01 <xcamel> hmmm.. my little modbook is doing well in the credit dept....

09:02 * wdsmia is off to eat bbiab

09:02 <xcamel> enjoy..

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10:34 <Ageless93[Away]> everything's broken.

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10:34 * Ageless93 is no longer away : Gone for 14 hours 41 minutes 31 seconds

10:35 <Tank_Master> your broken?

10:36 <Ageless93> something on Isaac is. Now I can't even PM anymore on BOINC Dev. I get PMs in, but I can't answer or even delete old ones. ;)

10:38 <Ageless93> and the program here is telling me again that I am not in a channel... oh well. Must imagine then that TM could read my line and answer.

10:38 <Tank_Master> I can read it

10:38 <Ageless93> lol, no, you think you can. My mental powers doing that

10:39 <Tank_Master> heh

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10:57 * KathrynM_ really hates translating Korean translated into English into proper English

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10:58 <KathrynM> And another just arrived in my email.

10:59 <Ageless93> something for Engrish.com?

11:00 <KathrynM> dear god...

11:00 <KathrynM> I want to gouge my eyes out.

11:00 <KathrynM> I've done a half dozen of these in the last 3 days.

11:00 <Ageless93> not fan letters?

11:00 <KathrynM> speeches for competitions

11:01 <KathrynM> "However

11:01 <KathrynM> that can save Ulsan and earth moaning in the polution

11:01 <KathrynM> of environment."

11:02 <Ageless93> good.

11:02 <Ageless93> we're all moaning in the polution of environment

11:02 * KathrynM bangs head on desk

11:03 <Ageless93> send it on to Al Gore.

11:03 <KathrynM> lol

11:03 <Ageless93> make him laugh and wonder

11:04 <KathrynM> "Though I wrote and wrote, I could get the power to grip, I got better and I caught up with other kids."

11:04 <KathrynM> what the hell is the middle part?

11:05 <Ageless93> grip on Engrish

11:06 <KathrynM> lol

11:07 <Ageless93> my Engrish very very good, I learn writing from miss Sue.

11:07 <Ageless93> if only..

11:10 <KathrynM> I'm going to bed.  Maybe the translation fairies will come overnight and fix these steaming piles of crap for me.

11:10 <KathrynM> &nn

11:10 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

11:10 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

11:10 <Ageless93> night

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11:28 <CoderForLife> re-hi

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11:29 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

11:29 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 64.9F / 18.3C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 4.2mph / 6.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers late. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Sunday - Showers with a (1 more message)

11:29 <CoderForLife> &more

11:29 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 60s. Southeast winds around 15 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.;

11:29 <CoderForLife> looks like it's going to be a beautiful Mother's Day Eve

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13:39 <Rookie_69> Now I'm glad I did get that new oil pan... I can see daylight through the old one.

13:45 <Rookie_69> Unfortunately, it appears that some idiot bent the dipstick tube a little bit.

14:08 <CoderForLife> 87% of all Coding problems are permission/security-related

14:08 <CoderForLife> 88% of all statistics are made up on-the-fly

14:09 <bryanUC> CoderForLife: I thought it was 80%

14:10 <CoderForLife> that's what 95% of people think

14:11 <CoderForLife> the reality is that only 42% of them are right 75% of the time

14:12 <CoderForLife> a sad statistic, confirmed by 4 out of 5 dentists

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14:34 <Soul_keeper> bla

14:34 <Soul_keeper> i gotta replace the timing chain on my truck

14:35 <Rookie_69> before it wears a hole in the cover?

14:36 <Soul_keeper> think it already did

14:36 <Soul_keeper> supposed to replace every 100k miles, my truck has 190k and don't think it was ever replaced

14:36 <Soul_keeper> leaking oil now

14:39 <Rookie_69> Hopefully oil pan was my only oil leak... Too wet to tell.

14:40 <Rookie_69> The van smoked on the highway because oil was blowing back on the crossover pipe.

14:40 <Soul_keeper> this doesn't make me happy

14:41 <Soul_keeper> i gotta smog the truck

14:41 <Soul_keeper> i almost just want to junk the whole truck

14:45 <Rookie_69> A bus pass is cheaper than owning a car... and tax deductible here, but whoever makes up the schedules obviously never takes the bus.

14:46 <Soul_keeper> yeah but i need a truck to haul around my tools and stuff for work

14:46 <Soul_keeper> might hafta drop 1k into it here tho

14:46 <Romulus> xcamel: its wine - not because it seems not. I've mailed the BOINC code

14:47 <Rookie_69> That's not hard to do these days.

14:47 <BadBarbarian> romulus you are NUTS

14:47 <Romulus> ... but you are upper fayl ...

14:47 <BadBarbarian> hehe

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14:55 <Rookie_69> Now I just have to figure out if I can straighten out the dipstick tube without dropping the pan again...

14:56 <Rookie_69> ... or live with the tick tick until it wears off.

14:57 <Rookie_69> ... or leave the dipstick pulled out six inches like it is now.

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15:07 <Rookie_69> !ooM

15:07 <efc> yo

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15:24 <Rookie_69> It's cooled off here today. I just had to reboot two more boxes to warm this place up.

15:37 <xcamel> lol

15:38 <xcamel> just got done pulling the backhoe out of a nice muckhole

15:38 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

15:39 <xcamel> ip kill >> 221.204.237.145

15:39 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

15:39 <Romulus> blender internal renderer has nothing to do some productive wo-- err, w#$%, and *then* read the 400-500 messages over a week ago, and he starts sliding the pieces out :)

15:40 <xcamel> making the usual mess with the big toys

15:40 <xcamel> I should know better...

15:42 <xcamel> took a while to get the dozer started..

15:42 <xcamel> to pull the BH out

15:44 <Rookie_69> Just don't get dozer stuck...

15:44 <xcamel> nope, not this time.

15:49 <Rookie_69> I helped recover a D-9 from a floating bog many moons ago... The blade was the only thing that kept it from disappearing. The back of the cab was at about knee height.

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16:11 <xcamel> ...needed coffee..

16:12 <CoderForLife> back

16:12 <CoderForLife> thx for the plink, xcamel

16:13 <CoderForLife> brb   beverage required after yard work

16:16 <yoyo[RKN]> thx for the hint xcamel

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16:21 <xcamel> no problem..

16:25 <CoderForLife> b

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16:28 <CoderForLife> strange... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354862,00.html

16:28 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5v8rej> (at www.foxnews.com)

16:31 <Rookie_69> Yup... I'd rather just have my ashes float around at random.

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16:32 <Rookie_69> Hmm... too early for morning, isn't it?

16:32 <Rookie_69> Oh. It's later than I thought.

16:33 <CoderForLife> it's time to use that Korean expression that means "it's another great day in the S.K." = "meh"

16:35 <Rookie_69> Is that something like "Bah"?

16:42 <xcamel> well well.. at least I didn't cut the satellite cable..

16:43 <CoderForLife> I'm not really sure - KathrynM uses it when she's commenting on life there

16:43 <CoderForLife> I always thought it was something like "wow"

16:43 <xcamel> no - meh is right

16:43 <CoderForLife> didn't run into any "tough tree roots", xcamel?

16:44 <CoderForLife> the black ones with the multistanded colored insides are the toughest

16:44 <xcamel> if that front holds together, you're going to get some thunder bumpers tonight...

16:45 <CoderForLife> ah - thx - I hadn't looked yet

16:45 <xcamel> coming out of MO now...

16:45 * CoderForLife fires up the ACME Weather Prognosticator

16:46 <Soul_keeper> hmmm i need a chain wrench and a micrometer

16:46 <CoderForLife> my preferred tools are a sledge hammer and a cutting torch

16:47 <Soul_keeper> if i go that route i better be prepared to buy a new truck ..

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16:50 <CoderForLife> early din-din - Skyline chili - bbl

16:50 * CoderForLife walks away, thinking about the MO front

16:51 <quail> morning all

16:55 <Rookie_69> Morning already?

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16:56 <quail> yeah it almost 0630 hours here

16:56 <Rookie_69> Almost 1800 here atm.

16:57 <quail> :-)

16:57 <Rookie_69> We must be almost half a world apart :-)

16:57 * quail up early this sunday morning cause it mothers day here to day and I have to get the roast etc done

16:58 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Mom is almost half a country away so I only have to cook for me.

16:59 <Rookie_69> Well, 1/3 of the country...

16:59 <quail> oh

17:00 <Rookie_69> 1200 miles or so...

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17:01 <Soul_keeper> i want a new engine ...

17:01 <Rookie_69> 502 crate engine ...

17:01 <quail> huh?

17:02 <Rookie_69> Some of us are playing mechanic today.

17:02 <quail> oh

17:03 <Rookie_69> I replaced a rusted-out oil pan this aftermorning...

17:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah kragen carries crate engines, not sure if i wanna go that route tho

17:05 <Rookie_69> I almost succeeded too.

17:05 <Soul_keeper> looks like a total rebuild would be about the same price as dropping in a whole new engine

17:06 <Rookie_69> Usually.

17:08 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/MPG.html

17:08 <Romulus> Title: Sheet1 (at sterlingdesktops.com)

17:08 <Soul_keeper> something has definately changed around febuary

17:08 <Soul_keeper> gas milage has dropped considerably

17:08 <Rookie_69> Last total rebuild I did was a 350 that cost about $1100 so I saved a couple of $$

17:09 <Soul_keeper> i was told the krate engines will run about 2000

17:09 <Romulus> runs speedtest before cable guy has left over pork.

17:10 <PovAddict> lol

17:10 <Soul_keeper> problem is i want a new transmission, and new truck bed as well ....   might as well get a new truck

17:10 <Soul_keeper> there is a truck just like mine, but in better shape for sale down the street, think i'll go have a look at it

17:11 <Rookie_69> This van has a TH400 tranny... almost bulletproof.

17:13 <Rookie_69> Old van was 3 speed saginaw, manual drum brakes and armstrong steering... This one is like a Caddy.

17:14 <Rookie_69> ... almost.

17:21 <Rookie_69> I just wish I could drive past the occasional gas station.

17:22 <Soul_keeper> :)

17:23 <Soul_keeper> i want a 5 speed tranny instead of 4 speed, also the clutch/bearings are worn

17:23 <Soul_keeper> bbl

17:23 <Rookie_69> K.

17:23 <Romulus> do you need to start it (I'm not sure yet..

17:42 <xcamel> 'lo again

17:46 <xcamel> blade angle control now fixed...

17:46 <CoderForLife> good work

17:47 * CoderForLife fixes a buffer overflow problem caused by a spreadsheet with 138 tabs, each with a different persons last comma first name - more than the 2048 byte buffer he had allocated

17:49 <CoderForLife> yeah, C*de happens

17:49 <xcamel> that too...

17:51 <quail> howdy Jay & Don

17:52 <CoderForLife> hi Dale

17:52 <quail> CoderForLife: how are things?

17:52 <CoderForLife> fair (and maybe a bit unfair) - how about you?

17:53 <quail> fair to muddling

17:54 * quail has to cook a roast today as it is mothers day

17:54 <BadBarbarian> Nice with all the triming i hope for dear old mum

17:55 <quail> so I have a leg of pork that I have put bits of garlic and chilli into, I still got to salt the pork skin yet

17:55 <xcamel> 'lo Q

17:56 <quail> CoderForLife: yeah I got apple sauce for the pork and heaps of veg to roast aswell

17:56 <quail> xcamel: how are things Jay?

17:58 <xcamel> spicy wing pizza...

17:59 <xcamel> otherwise... going well enough

17:59 <quail> mmm wing dings

17:59 <xcamel> more or less..

18:00 * quail loves wing dings, but they getting harder harder to get here :-/

18:03 <desti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/planephotoman/tags/cyberneticwalkingmachine/

18:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6ovnxk> (at www.flickr.com)

18:04 <xcamel> video of the "Big Dog" is better... pretty amazing tech...

18:06 <xcamel> http://youtube.com/watch?v=W1czBcnX1Ww

18:06 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Boston Dynamics Big Dog (new video March 2008) (at youtube.com)

18:13 <CoderForLife> very amazing

18:14 <CoderForLife> does a better job than I could do on ice

18:14 <Rookie_69> To heck with it...All seven remaining boxes are now heating up my chilly apartment.

18:18 <CoderForLife> Al Gore is watching you, Rookie_69

18:19 <Rookie_69> Gore is what seeps out of a long-dead animal.

18:19 <MTughan> Yes, but maybe he's contributing to finding more efficient ways to generate electricity.

18:20 <Rookie_69> Build a DysanSphere out of solar panels.

18:22 <CoderForLife> that'll be a cheap solution...

18:23 <efc> easier to attack a civilization that already has a DysanSphere and take it!

18:24 <Romulus> How's life in camel land?

18:26 <Rookie_69> If we had the technology to build or usurp said DysanSphere, presumably we wouldn't need one.

18:26 <CoderForLife> lol  I love your solution efc

18:27 <Rookie_69> No matter... Me needs a nap.

18:27 <Rookie_69> NN.

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18:28 <CoderForLife> first we'll need to steal a Bussard ramjet to mount the attack

18:33 <efc> I'm still interested in photochemical energy but not getting anywhere with it

18:34 <CoderForLife> if you've seen the movie K-PAX, you'll know that the secret is in light itself

18:35 <CoderForLife> I'm off to watch last night's BSG - was too tired to watch it live

18:35 <CoderForLife> ttfn

18:35 <BadBarbarian> al gore's private jet adds more greenhouse gases anything else

18:38 <efc> But, they plant trees in the desert that are doomed to die immediately to make up for it

18:41 <PovAddict> or in snowy areas

18:41 <PovAddict> which means less snow reflecting the sun, which means *more* warming

18:41 <efc> Or they plant 3 trees while clearing out a forest to build a huge plant

18:41 <efc> or subdivision (I hate subdivisions)

18:42 <PovAddict> I'm trying to get a working Flash for Linux 64-bit

18:42 <PovAddict> looks like one hell of a task...

18:42 <efc> I think there was an open source clone? no official

18:43 <PovAddict> well, installing the free Flash implementations isn't super-trivial either, and if I do that I'm not even guaranteed compatibility with websites

18:44 <efc> On the other hand, flash s u x so what could you be missing..

18:44 <PovAddict> me? nothing

18:44 <PovAddict> but my mom always checks her email from this computer

18:44 <PovAddict> it's bad enough that I put Linux on it, missing Flash just makes things worse

18:45 <PovAddict> I just installed mozilla-plugin-gnash

18:45 <PovAddict> gave an installation error

18:46 <PovAddict> update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so.dpkg-tmp a symlink to /etc/alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin: No such file or directory

18:46 <PovAddict> uh huh

18:46 <PovAddict> and #ubuntu is a mess

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19:18 <xcamel> back again

19:18 <xcamel> again even

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19:27 <BadBarbarian> 'lo xcamel

19:28 <Soul_keeper> ubuntu is like a subprime loan: designed to make it easier/better for the noob, but in the end everyone gets screwed

19:39 <xcamel> lol

19:42 <PovAddict> I got it installed... sort of

19:43 <PovAddict> yup now I go to youtube.com in Firefox and Firefox hangs completely for ten seconds - guess it works

19:54 <Ageless93[Away]> can anyone look at http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=6658 please

19:54 *** Ageless93[Away] is now known as Ageless93

19:54 * Ageless93 is no longer away : Gone for 8 hours 43 minutes 13 seconds

19:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5wg5mo> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

19:54 <Ageless93> this person has Windows XP, but BOINC shows it as Windows 98

19:55 <Ageless93> even the latest BOINC he installed only 2 days ago gives communications as Windows 98.

19:55 <Ageless93> would compatibility mode install do such a thing?

19:56 <PovAddict> definitely not; installing 6.x in "compatibility mode" has nothing to do with the Windows compatibility with older Windowses

19:56 <Romulus> Okay, now you're just doing this stop and start again. That an idea?

19:57 <Ageless93> I meant a Windows 98 compatibility mode install, not the BOINC compatibility mode install

19:57 <PovAddict> oh - maybe

19:57 <Ageless93> so if I were to install BOINC in Win98 CM, would it show my OS as Windows 98, or as the OS I installed it under?

19:58 * KathrynM_ is back (gone 03:26:11)

19:58 <PovAddict> probably as win98

19:58 *** KathrynM_ is now known as KathrynM

19:58 <PovAddict> actually, just running it...

19:58 <PovAddict> set boinc.exe to compatibility mode and it should do that...

20:03 <Ageless93> thx

20:27 <Ageless93> you'd think they check the free space on the servers once in a while at Berkeley.

20:28 <PovAddict> indeed

20:28 <PovAddict> you beat me to it on posting it @ dev forums

20:28 <PovAddict> by a minute :)

20:29 <Ageless93> sorry.

20:29 <PovAddict> hmm testing something - I might logout

20:29 <Ageless93> I don't dare... wasn't there that problem a while ago that if you did you couldn't log back in?

20:30 <PovAddict> I meant in IRC

20:30 <PovAddict> looks like the Close button minimizes to tray - just what I wanted

20:30 <PovAddict> (if it didn't... I would have quit IRC)

20:31 <Ageless93> got a minimize to tray button here

20:31 <Ageless93> can even set auto-away on minimize to tray

20:31 <PovAddict> IceChat? what OS?

20:31 <KathrynM> I just click the icon in the tray and it minimizes :)

20:31 <Ageless93> windows

20:31 <Ageless93> what else?

20:31 <Romulus> what else is red hat based besides fedora, Ageless93

20:31 <KathrynM> lol

20:31 <Ageless93> strawberries, Rom

20:32 <KathrynM> That was one of Rommie's best.

20:32 <Ageless93> it had me typeless for a moment there

20:32 <KathrynM> lol

20:33 <KathrynM> with trepidation, Kathryn opens up the speech she was translating last night.

20:33 <Ageless93> please, no more rape flowers

20:33 <KathrynM> I haven't even started that one yet.

20:33 <KathrynM> I'll have to find out exactly what that means.

20:33 <PovAddict> BOINC Manager on KDE should really do the same

20:33 <PovAddict> close button minimizing to tray - but letting the user know that first (and it should notify on Windows too)

20:33 <Ageless93> grape flowers perhaps?

20:33 <PovAddict> clicking tray icon restoring/minimizing

20:34 <Ageless93> if grapes have flowers..

20:34 <KathrynM> I have no freaking clue.

20:34 * KathrynM sighs

20:34 <KathrynM> Now I am not so fast.  When I was younger, I was a slow boy.

20:35 <Ageless93> and now? a girl?

20:35 <KathrynM> lol

20:36 <PovAddict> rape flowers? o.O

20:36 <KathrynM> check your email Jord

20:36 * PovAddict missed something but doesn't want to know anyway

20:36 <KathrynM> Sorry, I forgot to strip the attachment

20:38 <Ageless93> in a bit, helping another poor sap at Einstein

20:39 <KathrynM> It's just for your amusement.

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20:39 <KathrynM> HOLY CRAP!  It's Keith

20:39 <Keith_Stanley> Is it?

20:39 <KathrynM> Keith can help me translate ;)

20:39 <Keith_Stanley> Damn...I've been looking for that b...

20:40 <Keith_Stanley> :)

20:40 <PovAddict> zomg keith

20:40 <Keith_Stanley> Hello folks..

20:41 <KathrynM> Hiya Keith

20:41 <Ageless93> hello Mr. Miggins

20:42 <Keith_Stanley> Hi Kathryn

20:42 <Keith_Stanley> Mrs to you...

20:42 <Keith_Stanley> :)

20:43 <Keith_Stanley> She's creating merry hell on some other board at the moment..

20:43 <Ageless93> who? kathryn?

20:43 <KathrynM> I'm always creating hell.

20:43 <Keith_Stanley> Nah..the old trout Miggins.

20:43 <Romulus> click on the order of 100,000 spreadsheets

20:44 <Keith_Stanley> What, you Kath...

20:44 <Ageless93> if it is where I think it is then good for her. Not reading there anymore.

20:44 * KathrynM sighs

20:44 <KathrynM> In addition, I could read fluently and comprehended well English stories after keeping on reading Internet site story and various books.

20:44 * KathrynM bangs head on desk

20:45 <Ageless93> I'm stuck in the first sentence already, kat

20:45 <KathrynM> lol

20:45 <KathrynM> It's truly painful.

20:45 <Ageless93> question mark comma... right

20:46 <KathrynM> proper punctuation?  You gotta be kidding me.

20:46 <Keith_Stanley> English is my second language...

20:46 <Keith_Stanley> Talking Cobblers is my first.

20:46 <KathrynM> I'd like a peach cobbler please.

20:46 <Ageless93> At that time, mass communication and many people said

20:46 <Ageless93> " Ulsan is a pollutional city and  they have many

20:46 <Ageless93> mosquito because of it" so my family also crossed a

20:46 <Ageless93> bridge before we comes to it.

20:46 <KathrynM> My dream is to be a science and then I'll try to get knowledge and information one by one.

20:47 <KathrynM> Oh you're doing that one ;)

20:47 <KathrynM> I'm still struggling through Joe's.

20:47 <PovAddict> "to be a science" LOL

20:47 <KathrynM> LOL

20:48 <KathrynM> Joeology

20:48 <Ageless93> and Some people were eating some food

20:48 <Ageless93> in groups.

20:48 <Ageless93> is that forbidden these days then?

20:48 <Ageless93> no group eating allowed!

20:48 <KathrynM> Don't ask.  It's better for your mental health.

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20:50 <KathrynM> The Horror, The Horror...  that pretty much describes what I'm doing.

20:50 <PovAddict> http://the-gadgeteer.com/assets/raindesign_mstand-4.jpg

20:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6qrgzb> (at the-gadgeteer.com)

20:50 <PovAddict> "for ONLY $50, you too can have a piece of bent metal with an artfully placed hole"

20:51 <KathrynM> Now I was called by a brave and dignified boy.

20:51 <PovAddict> KathrynM...

20:51 <KathrynM> lol

20:51 <PovAddict> there's a certain forum thread where that would go perfect

20:52 <KathrynM> ?\

20:52 <PovAddict> @ boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/longue/speling thread

20:52 <KathrynM> lol

20:52 <Ageless93> um.. kathryn, what do you drink milk out of there?

20:52 <KathrynM> cups, glasses, juice box looking things, pint cartons

20:53 <PovAddict> ooh

20:53 <Ageless93> ok... so these cartons... um, do they go radioactive after use, or what?

20:53 <PovAddict> Wine rc1 is out

20:53 <KathrynM> God only knows.

20:53 <Ageless93> After drinking milk, wash out the

20:53 <Ageless93> milk pack absolutely.

20:53 <PovAddict> http://news.povray.org/povray.off-topic/thread/<4825b2bd$1%40news.povray.org>/

20:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/65ywl7> (at news.povray.org)

20:54 <PovAddict> (damn link broke)

20:54 <KathrynM> PovAddict, I saw that in my feed reader last night.  Slashdot maybe?

20:54 <PovAddict> http://news.povray.org/4825b2bd$1%40news.povray.org that should work

20:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/66rbd9> (at news.povray.org)

20:54 <PovAddict> UGH! konqueror still stops the link at the $

20:54 <FreeLarry58> Oh my Gosh, Keith_Stanley and a whole lot of TFFE'ers

20:55 <Keith_Stanley> Don't panic Larry...

20:55 <PovAddict> lol

20:55 <PovAddict> RUN!

20:55 <FreeLarry58> Just saying hi, befoe i get called out for shopping for mothrs day

20:55 <Keith_Stanley> Which way?

20:55 * FreeLarry58 doesn'

20:56 <FreeLarry58> doesn't matter here - some wierd dude in a sheet following me

20:56 <Ageless93> I did whatever he asked and I always

20:56 <Ageless93> followed him because he lived in my neighbor.

20:56 <Ageless93> "Open your mind.... open your mind...."

20:56 * FreeLarry58 shakes head and tries to wake up again

20:56 <Ageless93> am I the only one who sees the joke there?

20:57 <FreeLarry58> WHAT Ageless93 did you find my mind - give it back

20:57 <Ageless93> give this boy an A, Kath

20:57 <Ageless93> he made me laugh

20:57 <Romulus> not requesting new work or reporting completed tasks) on Messages?

20:57 <FreeLarry58> ohhh

20:58 <FreeLarry58> well off to play my game for a bit

20:58 <FreeLarry58> tca

20:58 <KathrynM> Well...  it was his teacher who translated what he wrote in Korean.

20:58 <Ageless93> in that case, a B-

21:00 <Ageless93> I know my dreams can come true after my continuous

21:00 <Ageless93> trials.

21:00 <Ageless93> yes... keep your dreams alive

21:00 <PovAddict> translating engrish to english?

21:00 <KathrynM> exactly

21:01 <PovAddict> fun

21:01 <KathrynM> oh yes

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21:05 <KathrynM> posted in that thread :)

21:06 <PovAddict> lol @ badbarbarian's quit msg

21:06 * KathrynM goes to get breakfast

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21:16 <CoderForLife> just checking back in before bedtime

21:17 <CoderForLife> hey Keith_Stanley

21:17 <efc> Moo

21:17 <CoderForLife> hey efc

21:17 <Keith_Stanley> Yep..I just snuck in under the wire...

21:17 <efc> Keith is checking in on the Animal Farm

21:17 <CoderForLife> I was wondering what door was left unlocked

21:18 <CoderForLife> you slid in on the electric utility entrance, eh?

21:18 <CoderForLife> clever

21:19 <Ageless93> use the fox tunnel

21:19 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

21:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 63.3F / 17.4C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 1.1mph / 1.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms late. Lows in the lower 50s. East winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Sunday - Showers. A chance of thunderstorms in (1 more message)

21:19 <Keith_Stanley> Something like that.

21:19 <CoderForLife> &more

21:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the morning... then thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 50s. Southeast winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Sunday Night - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then showers likely after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

21:20 * efc still hasn't bought his Lightning Detector!

21:20 <CoderForLife> coming in over the wire would imply some kind of data transfer

21:20 <Ageless93> detector or deflector?

21:21 <CoderForLife> attractor

21:21 <Ageless93> copper wire going 18 meters into the ground.

21:22 <efc> Any expensive piece of electronics is a lightning attractor

21:23 <CoderForLife> agreed

21:23 <CoderForLife> in exponential proportion to the price tag

21:23 <Ageless93> luckily not here

21:23 <Ageless93> and I am surrounded by high trees

21:24 <CoderForLife> arrayed like a target?

21:25 <Ageless93> I hope not

21:25 <Ageless93> but they've survived many heavy storms for the past 8 years, so I am not too worried

21:26 <efc> I could be included at..   http://www.strikestarus.com/

21:26 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at www.strikestarus.com)

21:27 <CoderForLife> that mess is heading my way

21:27 <efc> The area around TX/AR/KS is almost always under fire. Like very time I've looked for the past 2 months.

21:27 <Romulus> Got my first ever linux install was Red Hat / Mandrake / Fedora / Suse world

21:28 <CoderForLife> Rommie liked your slashes

21:28 <efc> Hehe

21:29 <CoderForLife> OK, off 2 z bed

21:29 <CoderForLife> cya nice folks back here soon

21:29 <KathrynM> night CoderForLife

21:29 <Ageless93> night CFL

21:29 <CoderForLife> good seeing you join the mayhem Keith_Stanley

21:30 <efc> night CFL

21:30 <efc> Supposed to be 1" hail coming

21:30 <CoderForLife> cya KathrynM Ageless93 efc

21:30 <Keith_Stanley> Cheers...g'night

21:30 <efc> &weather 30625

21:30 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 72F / 22C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then occasional showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe. Lows in the mid 60s. Southwest winds up to 10 mph shifting to the south after midnight. (2 more messages)

21:30 * CoderForLife waves a pillow case

21:48 * PovAddict comes back

21:50 * PovAddict got attacked with a piece of ice

21:52 * KathrynM thinks it's better not to ask.

21:52 <Ageless93> I'm going to smile into my pillow as well. Night all.

21:52 <KathrynM> sleep well Jord

21:53 <PovAddict> KathrynM: my sister put a piece of ice (or maybe her super-cold hands after holding a piece of ice) on my neck

21:53 <KathrynM> lol.  I used to do that to my brothers.

21:53 <PovAddict> of course there was tickle revenge

21:53 <KathrynM> :D

21:53 <PovAddict> (after running after her all around the house)

21:53 *** Ageless93 is now known as Ageless93[Away]

21:53 * Ageless93[Away] is now away - Reason : Following my nose.

21:56 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

21:57 <PovAddict> alternate reality... like those engrish things?

22:12 <Keith_Stanley> OK...time to say G'night

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22:22 <nickuwo> do you need to use a pointer to keep track of the end of an array in C++?

22:22 <nickuwo> in other words, is there some analogous method to java's array[].length?

22:23 <PovAddict> arrays have no length in C

22:23 <PovAddict> the language has no idea how big the array is

22:23 <nickuwo> hmm

22:23 <PovAddict> if you need that, use a std::vector instead

22:23 <nickuwo> so I should just increment some int evertime I add to it

22:24 <nickuwo> ahh vector

22:24 <Romulus> well.. how you get the 'attach to project' wizard?

22:24 <PovAddict> you can't "add" to an array

22:24 <nickuwo> well, you know what I mean

22:24 <PovAddict> if you create an array of 10 elements, you corrupt random memory when writing to the 11th

22:25 <nickuwo> ok

22:30 <nickuwo> mmm... two dimensional vectors

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23:20 <Soul_keeper> stupid drug

23:20 <Soul_keeper> i had the temptation to just set it on fire

23:20 <Soul_keeper> truck*

23:21 <MTughan> Good thing you corrected that... :P

23:26 <PovAddict> o.O

23:27 <Soul_keeper> i'd blow my truck up if i wouldn't have to do jail time for it ...

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