IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-05-13

00:00 <MTughan> Yep, but I'm still not quite sure what the S and K scripts are used for. I know I'd need an S symlink, but what about K?

00:00 <PovAddict> yes you need it... it's to make sure BOINC is stopped when the system enters those runlevels

00:01 <MTughan> When it enters them? On shutdown?

00:01 <PovAddict> in the case of runlevel 0, yep

00:01 <MTughan> Ah...

00:03 <MTughan> So have a kill symlink for each runlevel, and a start for only the ones I want?

00:04 <PovAddict> a start symlink for runlevels where BOINC is supposed to be running

00:04 <PovAddict> a kill symlink for runlevels where it's not

00:04 <MTughan> Oh, okay...

00:04 <MTughan> I didn't see that's what you'd done in your paste.

00:05 <PovAddict> my paste is the output of find /etc -name "*boinc*"

00:05 <PovAddict> with comments :)

00:05 <MTughan> Nice.

00:08 <MTughan> All right, done. Now I can remove my line from rc.local.

00:08 <MTughan> Now the next thing for tomorrow is figure out how to make a menu item for the Manager.

00:10 <PovAddict> argh

00:10 <PovAddict> top is misleading...

00:11 <PovAddict> I see three instances of wcg app, one of them using CPU

00:11 <PovAddict> and all using 106MB of RAM

00:11 <PovAddict> actually, they're forks, all using the *same* 106MB of RAM

00:12 <PovAddict> but top makes things look as if they were using 300MB total

00:12 <Romulus> java is so strange. Both have the scars

00:14 <efc> That right Romulus. We both have scars.

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00:29 <MTughan> Well, that wasn't too hard... I now have a menu item for BOINC.

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01:57 <ec> mtughan, i got my account working again

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03:09 <BadBarbarian> @wx 86046

03:09 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

03:09 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 39.9F / 4.4C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 23.45in / 794.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 11.0mph / 17.7km/h ; Rest of Tonight - A slight chance of rain showers late in the evening...rain and snow showers after midnight. New snow accumulation 1 to 2 inches. Snow level above 9000 feet decreasing to 8000 feet after midnight. Lows 33 to 39. Light (2 more messages)

03:10 <BadBarbarian> &more

03:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: winds.; Tuesday - Much cooler. Rain and snow showers with isolated thunderstorms...decreasing during the afternoon. Snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches. Snow level near 7000 feet. Highs 43 to 49. Light winds becoming north around 15 mph in the late morning and afternoon. Gusts up to 30 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of rain showers in the evening...partly cloudy after (1 more message)

03:10 <BadBarbarian> &more

03:10 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: midnight. Snow level 9000 feet. Lows 27 to 35. North winds around 15 mph. Gusts up to 30 mph in the evening.;

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03:19 <efc> &weather 31088

03:19 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 52F / 11C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the upper 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph shifting to the east in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 50s. Light east winds.; (1 more message)

03:19 <efc> &more

03:19 <Romulus> efc: Fire Weather Warning for Houston County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on May 13, 2008;

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04:08 <CoderForLife> moo efc

04:08 <CoderForLife> morning

04:09 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 47.1F / 8.4C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.25in / 1024.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. South winds 5 (1 more message)

04:09 <CoderForLife> &more

04:09 <Romulus> CoderForLife: to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Wednesday - Showers likely with a slight chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;

04:25 <efc> Night

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04:37 <CoderForLife> brb - breakfast

04:49 <CoderForLife> b

04:58 <CoderForLife> plink - attempted Oracle hack

05:00 <CoderForLife> plink - attempted FTP hack from Japan

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05:45 <xcamel> thanks

05:48 * KathrynM is back (gone 06:08:37)

06:02 <CoderForLife> morning

06:02 <KathrynM> evenin

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06:05 <CoderForLife> I'm going to work for awhile at home this morning, trying to get my database cleaned up

06:05 <KathrynM> sounds good

06:06 <CoderForLife> yeah - I like being at home

06:06 <KathrynM> me too

06:10 <KathrynM> bbiab...  gonna make some soup

06:11 <CoderForLife> brb  beverage

06:15 <CoderForLife> b

06:20 <MTughan> Gonna be off to w%#& in a few minutes?

06:22 <CoderForLife> me?

06:23 <CoderForLife> I'm w@#%ing at home, right now

06:23 <KathrynM> did you get your init.d stuff sorted MTughan?

06:23 <CoderForLife> just finished catching up on w@#% e-mail

06:24 <CoderForLife> back to the task at hand...

06:24 <MTughan> KathrynM: Yep. Haven't had a chance to test it, but it's up.

06:24 <KathrynM> cool

06:25 <MTughan> Got a menu item for BOINC Manager too.

06:25 <KathrynM> :)

06:26 <KathrynM> I just start mine from a shell when I need it.

06:27 <MTughan> I should be able to do "service boinc start" from a shell to start it with all correct permissions.

06:28 <KathrynM> It starts on boot for me.  But if I need to stop/start it, as root I do /etc/init.d/boinc stop or /etc/init.d/boinc start

06:28 <MTughan> That should be what the service boinc does.

06:29 <KathrynM> OK.  :)

06:38 <hawmps> spork'd >>,

06:49 <CoderForLife> they are gesporkened - thx

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06:58 <CoderForLife> yay - one 10th of the run finished successfully

06:58 <KathrynM> 1 down 9 to go

07:08 <CoderForLife> they don't go down easy...

07:09 <CoderForLife> and like in "Terminator" - "he's going to get up, and he's going to be mad"

07:16 <CoderForLife> the CSV parser can't seem to withstand a Greek (letter) invasion

07:16 <CoderForLife> assaulted by sigma

07:16 <CoderForLife> pummelled by pi

07:16 <KathrynM> sounds painful

07:17 <CoderForLife> finding and replacing one greek letter at a time in a 562MB file

07:17 <CoderForLife> sum phun

07:18 <CoderForLife> and all the accent varieties of vowels in French and Spanish

07:20 <CoderForLife> oh and umlaut too

07:21 <KathrynM> all aiming to drive you bonkers.

07:24 <CoderForLife> can I belly-ache some more?

07:25 <KathrynM> sure

07:26 <CoderForLife> the output shows characters it didn't understand which are different that the characters on input, so you got to search the input file to find out exactly what was "bad", and some of the input characters don't visibly appear because they're non-printable

07:27 <CoderForLife> there - I feel better now

07:28 <KathrynM> there there CoderForLife.  You'll defeat this yet.

07:28 <KathrynM> I have faith in your Code.

07:29 <KathrynM> lol

07:29 <KathrynM> "As an added complication, he started tampering with the drivers, and by “tampering” I mean uninstalling packages. Of course, that left him with a 640×480 screen with no options to adjust that, and without the general know-how (he’s very new to Linux), that can be a very dangerous situation."

07:31 <CoderForLife> right now, it's all about my "seeing" and "typing", which are two declining skills

07:32 * CoderForLife hits "save" and rubs his eyes

07:34 <KathrynM> Go look out the window before your eyeballs fall out of your head.

07:34 <Romulus> no, we can figure out what i got it..i use it at night

07:34 * CoderForLife follows the advice and dives out the window

07:35 <KathrynM> I said look, not dive.

07:35 <KathrynM> Sheesh

07:36 * CoderForLife climbs back into his chair

07:36 <CoderForLife> that didn't help my eyeballs at all

07:42 <KathrynM> q: What do you get when you cross a mountain climber with a mosquito?

07:42 <KathrynM> a: Nothing. You can't cross a scalar with a vector.

07:42 <KathrynM> groannnnnnnnnnnnn

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07:43 <CoderForLife> that's bad

07:44 <KathrynM> yeah

07:45 * desti doesn't get it

07:46 <CoderForLife> math joke based on alternate definitions of words

07:47 <CoderForLife> mountain climber "scales" mountains - a scalar

07:47 <CoderForLife> a mosquito can carry disease, which is called a "vector"

07:47 <desti> doh´

07:48 <CoderForLife> phun with English and math

08:04 <CoderForLife> "Two.. Two files converted... Ah - ah - ah"

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08:09 <hawmps> 'lo Q

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08:25 <exco> /nick exco /msg nickserv

08:26 <CoderForLife> 60 more "corrections" and I should be home-free

08:27 <exco> did anybody run into this problem running ./_autosetup ?

08:27 <CoderForLife> time to start getting ready to go into the office

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08:56 <CoderForLife> on my way into the @ff1c3 - ttyl

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09:46 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023

09:46 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 34F / 1C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1013hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Rest of Today - Much cooler. Mostly cloudy. Scattered rain and snow showers early in the morning...isolated rain and snow showers in the afternoon. No snow accumulation. Snow level 6500 feet. Highs around 43 on the North Rim to around 68 along (2 more messages)

09:46 <BadBarbarian> &more

09:46 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: the Colorado River. Light winds becoming northeast 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 35 mph in the late morning and afternoon. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows around 30 on the North Rim to around 38 along the Colorado River. Northeast winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Wednesday - Warmer. Partly cloudy. Highs (1 more message)

09:46 <BadBarbarian> &more

09:46 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: around 64 on the North Rim to around 81 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;

10:07 <quail> what do people think of this mobo will work with linux >>>

10:07 <Romulus> <> (at

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10:11 <hawmps> another one... >>

10:14 <quail> plunk'ed

10:15 <quail> hawmps: howdy

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11:16 <hawmps> fyi: opera 9.50b (linux) kicks butt...

11:20 <desti>

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11:53 <Ageless93> damn weather

11:54 <Ageless93> &weather eindhoven, the netherlands

11:54 <Romulus> Ageless93: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 5:25 PM CEST; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 F. / 13 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 F. / 13 C.; Rain. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Rain. Low:55 F. / 13 (1 more message)

11:54 <Ageless93> another C; ?

11:54 <Ageless93> &more

11:54 <Romulus> Ageless93: C.;

11:54 <Ageless93> yep

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12:03 <PovAddict> exco: that _autosetup message is a warning, safe to ignore

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12:28 <jackygrahamez> hi

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12:41 <yoyo[RKN]> wb jackygrahamez

12:41 <yoyo[RKN]> how runs Hydrogen

12:42 <jackygrahamez> runs like ketchup on a bun yoyo[RKN]

12:43 <jackygrahamez> and how about yoyo ?

12:44 <yoyo[RKN]> want to make some statistic improvements, nothing more currently planned. The project runs without big interventions.

12:45 <Romulus> is it a Coding Muse.

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12:45 <jackygrahamez> I've been harassing people asking about molecular dynamics and how to derive force field parameters

12:46 <jackygrahamez> And I met Matt Blumberg Sunday

12:46 <jackygrahamez> Talked with him about some advocacy stuff

12:48 <jackygrahamez> He thinks our BOINC meetup group should offer free beer

12:49 <yoyo[RKN]> lol

12:49 <yoyo[RKN]> than I will join

12:49 <jackygrahamez> Thankfully my assistant organizer and I just did some brewing last week

12:50 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to stay sober and loose some weight

12:50 <jackygrahamez> I think it is really hard to understand molecular dynamics with a hang-over

12:50 <yoyo[RKN]> or you understand it better with some beer

12:51 <jackygrahamez> No you only think you understand it with beer

12:52 <PovAddict> baller peak, guys

12:52 <PovAddict> ballmer*

12:52 <PovAddict> it depends on the exact amount of alcohol involved

12:52 <jackygrahamez> Like I went to Harpers Ferry with Andrew a few weeks ago and he drank a half gallon and two pints and tells me the French Revolution occured in the early 1700s

12:54 <jackygrahamez> Well I should know since my birthday is on Bastille Day

12:54 <PovAddict>

12:54 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at

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12:58 <jackygrahamez> I wonder how they collected their empirical data

13:20 <hawmps> you hit the ballmer peak, an women hit the maunder minimum...

13:24 <quail> One To-day is Worth Two To-morrows

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14:34 <quail> this is now at the discretion of the operating system

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16:10 <xcamel> must be spam/hacker season...

16:10 <xcamel> << ip kill

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16:15 <xcamel>

16:15 <Romulus> <> (at

16:15 <xcamel> cool..

16:33 <quail> xcamel: plunk'ed

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16:51 <desti>

16:51 <Romulus> <> (at

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17:35 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:05 <CoderForLife> greetings to all silicon- and carbon-based life forms

18:06 <CoderForLife> thx for the plink, xcamel - actually mine have slowed *way* down from what they used to be

18:13 <wdsmia> *lo CoderForLife

18:13 <CoderForLife> **lo Doug

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18:21 <nickuwo> hey boinc

18:24 <nickuwo> slow day... finals week I suppose

18:25 <xcamel> re-hi

18:25 <Romulus> so can you help get mythTV working?

18:26 <CoderForLife> hello nickuwo xcamel

18:27 <nickuwo> ello!

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18:31 <jackygrahamez_> hi

18:32 <CoderForLife> hello jackygrahamez_

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18:34 <xcamel> 'lo jack

18:35 <xcamel> (pun intended)

18:36 <BadBarbarian_> 'lo Xcamel

18:36 <CoderForLife> I wasn't going to steal your thunder

18:42 <PovAddict> UGH

18:43 * PovAddict runs in circles screaming

18:43 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict

18:43 * CoderForLife throws a bucket of water on PovAddict

18:43 <Romulus> put in new fixes, and negate old ones

18:43 <CoderForLife> that's the story of my life, Rommie

18:43 <PovAddict> user asks to show some info in the GUI, and developer starts by hacking some code in the core to communicate that information to the GUI

18:44 <CoderForLife> watsamatta, PovAddict?

18:44 <PovAddict> always like that

18:44 <PovAddict> the core should be giving LOTS of information, even if the GUI doesn't use it

18:45 * CoderForLife edits a 562MB file by hand to remove characters that offend the Perl CSV module

18:45 <PovAddict> why "add a new button" always means adding yet another ad-hoc command to the GUI-client protocol? (ok, calling it a protocol is a stretch)

18:46 <CoderForLife> I usually expose an internal data structure to the GUI, so that it can get all the info/status it wants

18:47 <CoderForLife> also communicate things like "cancel" that way

18:47 <PovAddict> yes but in your case the GUI and the core are probably quite tied...

18:48 <CoderForLife> yes, the GUI is the UI for the core

18:48 <PovAddict> in this case there are 3rd party GUIs, which probably have to reverse engineer the protocol to do something useful, even though it's open source

18:48 <PovAddict> I'm talking about: BOINC

18:48 <CoderForLife> can swap UIs without touching the core (like run from a command prompt)

18:49 <PovAddict> the protocol includes lots of nice things like <state>2</state> inside <workunit>... go figure out what state=2 means...

18:50 <CoderForLife> don't cha just *hate* linefeeds in the middle of CSV data??

18:51 <PovAddict> o_o

18:51 <CoderForLife> and this word is killing me ->  AO

18:51 <PovAddict> lol

18:51 <CoderForLife> something about that an spreadsheet titles....

18:51 <PovAddict> just take the ~ out, nobody will notice

18:51 <Romulus> On the internet, everyone is hung over from that problem...

18:51 <CoderForLife> yeah - it becomes ANO

18:52 <CoderForLife> those SS come from our Chilean sub

18:53 <CoderForLife> speaking of that, how's the volcano doing?

18:58 <PovAddict>

18:58 <Romulus> Title: Important Security Advisory | The Fridge (at

19:00 <CoderForLife> I see ubuntu is becoming more like Windows

19:02 <CoderForLife> bio break - brb

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19:13 <CoderForLife> we're saved

19:14 <KathrynM> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

19:14 <CoderForLife> or not

19:14 <KathrynM> gas company just showed up at my door

19:14 <CoderForLife> they gave you gas?

19:14 <KathrynM> to check the gas.

19:14 <CoderForLife> a problem?

19:15 <KathrynM> no.  just regular checks

19:15 <CoderForLife> huh?

19:15 <KathrynM> make sure we won't blow up or anything

19:15 <CoderForLife> does the ambulance come around to make sure you're not having a heart attack?

19:16 <KathrynM> no, but there are abulances here that have DOA on the side of them.

19:16 <KathrynM> I need to get a picture of that...

19:16 <CoderForLife> lol

19:16 <CoderForLife> yes, you do

19:17 <CoderForLife> that's like Chevrolet trying to sell the Nova in Mexico

19:20 <CoderForLife> I wish my banker would stop by and give me money

19:22 <KathrynM> Me too

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19:22 <CoderForLife> moo efc

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19:23 <CoderForLife> brains ar funny things

19:24 <CoderForLife> are*

19:24 <KathrynM> I don't use mine.  It keeps it in its pristine state.

19:24 <CoderForLife> I can see a set of numbers, understand them, and write/type them correctly, but I *say* the numbers wrong

19:25 <CoderForLife> not always

19:26 <CoderForLife> like 833638 - I'll get it right mentally and typing, but I might say "eight - thirty three - six - eighty-three"

19:27 <CoderForLife> makes life interesting

19:27 <KathrynM>

19:27 <Romulus> <> (at

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19:27 <efc> moo

19:27 <KathrynM> I don't hear "da".  I hear "ga"

19:27 <CoderForLife> how's our main man Eddie tonight?

19:27 <efc> in Greed mode again

19:28 <Romulus> well anyway....we'll know more about what your job look like a lion..?

19:28 <KathrynM> And I left a comment last night, but obviously it didn't post :/

19:28 <CoderForLife> to quote Gordon Gecko - "greed is good - greed works"

19:28 <efc> Developing my solar moneymaker

19:28 <efc> I'm thinking of taking the Edison light bulb approach

19:28 <CoderForLife> that's an oxymoron

19:28 <efc> Add random chemicals to seltzer water until it turns into gasoline

19:29 <CoderForLife> ah, alchemy

19:29 <efc> Its probably possible..

19:29 <CoderForLife> I recommend adding gasoline

19:29 <CoderForLife> it's the quickest way

19:29 <efc> Hmm, well that might fool some investors just long enough

19:29 <CoderForLife> lol - stone soup

19:29 <efc> gasoline is ambitious, I'll settle for methane

19:30 <CoderForLife> I'll bring the stone

19:30 <efc> My current best theory is pine sap and soda water

19:30 <CoderForLife> I quick trip to Titan would help there, but I worry about transportation costs

19:31 <efc> We'll lose some money on each trip, but we'll make it up in volume.

19:31 <CoderForLife> and.. don't strike a match, least you burn up the whole moon

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19:31 <CoderForLife> you *do* have a sharp understanding of business

19:31 <efc> I don't think they have any oxygen on Titan..

19:32 <CoderForLife> it might be a bit long holding your breath then

19:32 <efc> I'll send fish to do it. They don't have to breath.

19:33 <efc> I do find it very interesting that chlorophyll and hemoglobin are very similar.

19:33 <efc> chlorophyll has a magnesium atom, hemoglobin an iron. Thats the main difference.

19:35 <CoderForLife> that's interesting

19:36 <efc> You're faking it

19:36 <PovAddict> KMail SUCKS

19:36 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:37 <PovAddict> it doesn't seem to remember much stuff

19:37 * PovAddict watches it download thirteen thousand mail headers from the server *agai*

19:37 <CoderForLife> did the letters I typed look insincere?

19:37 <efc> Its the way you pressed the keys.

19:37 <PovAddict> and now it SEGFAULTED

19:38 <CoderForLife> I was going to ask about atomic weight, valency, and energy bands, but I was being kind

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19:40 <CoderForLife> wow it's sethy

19:40 <CoderForLife> wb BadBarbarian

19:40 <BadBarbarian> thanx

19:40 <sethy> wow its CoderForLife

19:40 <CoderForLife> wow^2

19:40 <PovAddict> omgHIDE

19:40 <PovAddict> /o\

19:40 <sethy> no pov

19:40 <KathrynM> holy crap, it's sethy

19:40 <sethy> POV

19:41 <sethy> dont remember this one

19:41 <BadBarbarian> we Had 6 inches of snow on the ground this morning

19:41 * sethy pats on KathrynM's head

19:41 <sethy> oh yea pov

19:41 <CoderForLife> sorry about your troubles BadBarbarian

19:41 <sethy> querry it up ploease

19:42 <efc> You can power your Snowmill with it

19:42 <BadBarbarian> lol its not a problem its gone now

19:43 <efc> But then how will you deal with the Peak Snow problem

19:43 * CoderForLife tells the Highway Department "never mind" on the South Rim emergency and hangs up the phone

19:44 <xcamel> probably went up to 75 by lunch time..

19:44 <CoderForLife> twas a glorious day here

19:47 <efc> I got some glorious barbeque sauce. Just need the barbeque now.

19:47 <sethy> does anyone know how i would go about tracking someone down?

19:47 <sethy> i.e. a Ex Girlfriend in canada

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19:49 <efc> we don't want to have to testify about this later

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19:49 * sethy looks at efc

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19:56 <CoderForLife> wb benje

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19:57 <CoderForLife> cya benje

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19:58 * CoderForLife is not that gullible

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20:18 <KathrynM> i owe, i owe, it's off to w@^* i go.........

20:18 <KathrynM> laterz

20:18 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:18 <CoderForLife> cya

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20:43 <xcamel> 'lo BB

20:45 <Soul_keeper> lo

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20:48 <BadBarbarian_> 'lo Xcamel sorry i am having wireless issues

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20:50 <sethy>

20:50 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - WATCH IT SHRED! \\ Shopping Carts // (SSI shredder) (at

20:55 <Soul_keeper> cool

20:57 <sethy> will it shred, thats the NEW question on the block

21:03 <sethy> pov: i sent emails to her old email

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21:11 <xcamel> next up: "Will It Nuke?"

21:13 <sethy> after that, will it metamorph

21:13 <sethy> also jay, i have become a activist

21:15 <sethy> :D

21:15 <xcamel> dare I even ask?

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21:16 <sethy> against scientology

21:16 <sethy> dw its safe

21:16 <Romulus> <-- that's the project ?

21:16 <xcamel> I thought it might be "save the vampires"

21:17 <sethy> alongside fellow anonymous, next protest june 14th - Sea org Vs. Sea Arghh! - join us worldwide

21:17 <sethy> nah

21:17 <sethy> something real

21:17 <xcamel> careful... those people can hurt you...

21:17 <sethy> i know

21:18 <sethy> i'm putting my life on the line though to prove a point

21:18 <xcamel> how about "fight global dumbing"?

21:18 <sethy> they cant get me with their fair game policy everyone wears masks

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21:26 <CoderForLife> they may tie you to a volcano and nuke you

21:27 <CoderForLife> just for sport, as I understand

21:32 <xcamel> and then shred the remains...

21:38 <CoderForLife> just to be sure

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21:43 <PovAddict> soon on youtube:

21:43 <PovAddict> "WATCH IT SHRED! \\ sethy // (SSI shredder)"

21:44 <sethy> i knew it was bad to come back

21:45 <PovAddict> lol

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21:46 <xcamel> and the rocket crazies with "Will It Launch?"

21:46 <E-30> hey xcamel

21:46 <xcamel> 'lo E

21:46 <PovAddict> I saw a comment in one of those shred videos

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21:47 <E-30> how are you doing

21:47 <PovAddict> saying to shred Ron Paul

21:47 <PovAddict> it's a *bad* idea to make a comment like that on youtube...

21:47 <E-30> yep

21:48 <E-30> it will get you in truble

21:48 <PovAddict> no it will just get you a lot of idiot comments flaming you back

21:48 <E-30> both are bad lol

21:49 <CoderForLife> hey E-30

21:49 <CoderForLife> hey Tank_Master

21:50 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

21:50 <E-30> hey cfl how is your day

21:50 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.0F / 16.7C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.18in / 1021.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers with a slight chance of thunderstorms late. Lows in the mid 50s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Wednesday - Showers. A slight chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the upper (1 more message)

21:50 <CoderForLife> &more

21:50 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 60s. Southwest winds around 10 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. A slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the lower 50s. West winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming north after midnight. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

21:50 <CoderForLife> came home after lunch and took a 3-1/2 hour nap

21:51 <CoderForLife> got up, grilled some steaks, and been w@#%ing since then until now

21:51 <E-30> cool lol

21:51 <E-30> well thats not bad

21:52 <CoderForLife> was so tired that I was worried

21:52 <CoderForLife> nap helped tremendously

21:54 <E-30> cool

21:54 <CoderForLife> I've been burning the candle at both ends for a few weeks now

21:56 <xcamel> I'd settle for only 3 ends...

21:57 <E-30> lol

21:58 <E-30> well i have my quad core down now and have 2 duos up and running

21:59 <xcamel> laterz..

22:00 <E-30> beuse i had to have someone else move it while i was on leave so it wont be back up and running till like the 26 of the mouth so my rAC WILL TALK A DIVE AGAIN

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22:11 <CoderForLife> back to bed myself - cya folks soon

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23:23 <MTughan> Dang, Fedora 9 looks pretty good...

23:23 <Romulus> <> (at

23:24 <KathrynM> I need to download and burn it.

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23:26 <nickuwo> is it just me or do all linux distros look the same

23:27 <PovAddict> well duh

23:27 <KathrynM> MTughan, if I want to upgrade from F7 to F9, which do I download, the Live CD or the Install CD?

23:27 <MTughan> nickuwo: Graphics and colour differences on the outside. Under that, can be many diffs.

23:27 <PovAddict> distros don't write desktop environments from scratch

23:27 <MTughan> KathrynM: Neither. :P

23:27 <MTughan> One sec...

23:28 <PovAddict> KathrynM: first read if that's possible

23:28 <PovAddict> I know in Ubuntu you can't skip a version

23:28 <MTughan>

23:28 <Romulus> <> (at

23:28 <PovAddict> so search if you can do 7->9 or you need to go through F8 first

23:28 <MTughan> Download the noarch.rpm one.

23:28 <MTughan> PovAddict: Can skip.

23:28 <KathrynM> w. t. f??

23:29 <MTughan> Preupgrade. Will download all the packages for you and upgrade your system. :D

23:29 <MTughan> New feature.

23:29 <nickuwo> my bad, thought you meant "looks good" as in "looks way cooler than other linux distros"

23:29 <PovAddict> nickuwo: well KDE4 is new stuff

23:29 <MTughan> Well, I like blues.

23:29 <nickuwo> mmm, blue is good

23:30 <KathrynM> I peaked at KDE 4 on the Kubuntu side.

23:30 <Romulus> just because there probably aren't #including <windows.h>

23:30 <KathrynM> I'm not so sure if I'm ready to upgrade my daily driver.  But definitely the 64 bit machine

23:30 <MTughan> Ubuntu is orange. Fedora is blue. I think SUSE is green.

23:30 <MTughan> Well, download and install the RPM there. The noarch one, not the src one.

23:31 <PovAddict> hmm

23:31 <MTughan> Then open a Terminal window and type "preupgrade". It'll ask you for the root password. After that, it's all GUI.

23:31 <PovAddict> I don't remember what the default Kubuntu color scheme was

23:31 <KathrynM> blue I think

23:31 <MTughan> Kubuntu was blue I believe.

23:31 <PovAddict> nickuwo:

23:31 <PovAddict>

23:31 <PovAddict>

23:31 <PovAddict>

23:31 <Romulus> Title: snapshot21.png (at

23:31 <Romulus> Title: snapshot22.png (at

23:31 <Romulus> Title: snapshot23.png (at

23:32 <nickuwo> looks like vista :)

23:32 <MTughan> I don't know, looks more Vista like.

23:32 <nickuwo> lol

23:32 <MTughan> Heh...

23:32 <PovAddict> yeah I noticed little originality 'round there

23:32 <PovAddict> look at compiz window switchers...

23:33 <PovAddict> a vista flip3d clone, a vista alt-tab clone, a Mac expose clone, and... coverflow

23:33 <MTughan> I'm interested to see what Compiz can do to Fedora 9... Hopefully it'll work in the VM.

23:33 <MTughan> Yeah, Flip3D here too.

23:34 <MTughan> Yeah, from Compiz. Using Metacity right now, not available.

23:34 <nickuwo> I think it'll be sometime around the third millennium b4 they have decent dual monitor support

23:34 <MTughan> Linux? Already has it.

23:34 <PovAddict> MTughan: how fast can you download 100MB?

23:34 <nickuwo> since when

23:34 <PovAddict>

23:34 <Romulus> Title: kde41alpha1 : Other > Other - Mininova (at

23:34 <MTughan> It's just called dual head for some strange reason...

23:35 <nickuwo> dual head huh

23:35 <nickuwo> interesting

23:35 <MTughan> What am I downloading?

23:35 <PovAddict> the videos I took the screenshots from

23:35 <PovAddict> KDE 4.1 alpha1-something show-off

23:35 <MTughan> Okay, just beware. Might take 10 minutes or so.

23:36 <MTughan> Torrents are really, really slow right now.

23:36 <MTughan> For example, I still don't have any peers after 30 seconds.

23:37 <PovAddict> uberloaded tracker

23:37 <MTughan> Still nothing...

23:37 <MTughan> No, I had this with Fedora 9 preview last night, and Fedora 9 today.

23:37 <PovAddict> IP/port?

23:37 <MTughan> Quicker to do straight download.

23:37 <PovAddict> KTorrent supports manual peer adding \o/

23:37 <MTughan> I don't know, BT here is really restrictive... Wait a minute...

23:38 <MTughan> I installed Transmission earlier today, let's try it...

23:38 <PovAddict> maybe you didn't open the BT port on your router (and the BT app couldn't open it automatically with UPnP either)

23:38 <MTughan> No, BT started working after a while.

23:39 <MTughan> .ogv? What's that?

23:39 <PovAddict> ogg

23:39 <PovAddict> video

23:39 <PovAddict> they're all ogg theora

23:40 <MTughan> I don't know what could be stopping it... No firewall on the router.

23:40 <PovAddict> that's not quite possible...

23:40 <PovAddict> if your external IP gets a connection at port 12345, which computer in your LAN receives it?

23:41 <MTughan> Oh, port forwarding.

23:41 <MTughan> And UPnP is enabled.

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23:42 <MTughan> Downloading, 30KB/s.

23:42 <MTughan> 1h20m to download.

23:42 <MTughan> 10 peers.

23:43 <MTughan> And I'm listening on port 9090.

23:44 <PovAddict> [] 9090 (?) : Connection refused

23:45 <MTughan> Stupid router...

23:45 <PovAddict> lol

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