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00:30 <d00m1001> Is anyone here
00:31 <MTughan> Yep.
00:31 <d00m1001> 1st question.
00:31 <d00m1001> Anyone know how long LHC has been delayed?
00:31 <MTughan> What do you mean by delayed?
00:31 <PovAddict> MTughan: the collider, not the BOINC project
00:31 <MTughan> Ah...
00:31 <PovAddict> building the collider has already been delayed again and again...
00:32 <MTughan> I know.
00:32 <PovAddict> LHC Home Premium coming soon?
00:32 <PovAddict> (Vista)
00:33 <d00m1001> Yeah
00:33 <d00m1001> not the BOINC project
00:33 <d00m1001> But, apparently
00:33 <d00m1001> The collider was supposed to be activated yesterday?
00:33 <d00m1001> Thanks to some in-accurate countdown
00:33 <MTughan> Latest in Wikipedia still says May 2008.
00:34 <PovAddict> "The first beams are due for injection mid June 2008 with the first collisions planned to take place 2 months later."
00:34 <d00m1001> Yeah but, they haven't even turned it on yet :(
00:35 <d00m1001> I want an apocolypse NOW!
00:35 <PovAddict> lol
00:36 <MTughan> PovAddict: Where'd you find that?
00:36 <PovAddict> wikipedia, 2nd paragraph
00:37 <MTughan> Oh, missed that...
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02:47 <efc> zzz
02:48 <efc> hehe good ones
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03:53 <CoderForLife> brb IM upgrade
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03:53 <Romulus> see - it's a tad bit early for a 2h drive distance
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03:55 <CoderForLife> &ping
03:55 <Romulus> pong
03:55 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
03:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.5°F / 10.3°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 5.1mph / 8.2km/h ; Tonight - Showers. Lows in the lower 50s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the morning. Highs in the mid 60s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 (1 more message)
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03:55 <CoderForLife> &more
03:55 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent.; Friday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 12:53 AM EDT on May 17, 2008;
04:05 <CoderForLife> brb - need some breakfast
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04:33 <efc> &weather 31088
04:33 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 80s. West winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows (1 more message)
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04:35 <efc> "Black Holes Don't Trap Information Forever"
04:36 <efc> I guess the white house will need to find a new email filing system then
04:36 <Romulus> All the other dozen protein-related projects?"
04:38 <CoderForLife> hello efc
04:39 <CoderForLife> yeabut - would you recognize your information when it came out of the black hole?
04:40 <efc> Lossles, Virtual Information
04:52 <efc> Let The Sun Shine In
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05:18 <CoderForLife> Need More Beverage - brb
05:45 <xcamel> ip kill >> 220.127.116.11
05:47 <CoderForLife> thx
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05:48 <CoderForLife> here's one in exchange: 18.104.22.168
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05:56 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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06:53 * KathrynM is back (gone 07:09:05)
06:59 <hawmps> evenin on your end..
07:00 <KathrynM> hola :)
07:06 <CoderForLife> back
07:06 <CoderForLife> morning folks
07:21 <hawmps> mornin
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08:40 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319
08:40 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 52.7°F / 11.5°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 70s. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 50s. West wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph after midnight.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 70s. Northwest (1 more message)
08:40 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:40 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.;
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08:49 <hawmps> 'lo BK
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09:45 <clusty> KathrynM, there?
09:46 <KathrynM> yeah
09:46 <KathrynM> what's up?
09:49 <clusty> KathrynM, check out our scrabble game :D
09:49 <clusty> damn
09:49 <clusty> i gotta run
09:49 <KathrynM> ok
09:49 <clusty> back in 1h if still there
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12:52 <PovAddict> 300k!
12:52 <jackygrahamez> come again?
12:52 <PovAddict> I reached 300k BOINC credots
12:52 <PovAddict> credits
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12:52 <PovAddict> 302,317.88
12:53 <jackygrahamez> Great can you buy a Porche?
12:53 <PovAddict> lol
12:53 <Starfury^> i'd prefer a 2001 M5
12:54 <PovAddict> Starfury^: too bad you can't buy either with 300k BOINC credits
12:55 <Starfury^> lol
12:55 <CoderForLife> what's the BOINC credits to USD exchange rate?
12:55 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: the question is who is willing to do such exchange...
12:56 <PovAddict> BOINC credits to USD, I believe 0.00
12:56 <CoderForLife> Spit once gave me 50,000 credits for free
12:56 <PovAddict> USD to BOINC credits, depends on the kind of hardware you buy
12:56 <CoderForLife> lol
12:56 <PovAddict> and the price of electricity in your area (which varies a *lot* worldwide)
12:57 <PovAddict> so... can't tell for sure
12:57 <Romulus> i got one orbit unit..
12:57 <CoderForLife> too many variables, not enough equations
12:57 <PovAddict> STFU bot
12:57 <Starfury^> wts 1mil boinc credits
12:57 <Starfury^> offers welcome
12:57 <Starfury^> as long as i can get a pint of stella artois
12:58 <CoderForLife> looks like I'm at 1,590,049
12:58 <PovAddict> wts?
12:58 <CoderForLife> wts?
12:58 <PovAddict> [13:57] <Starfury^> wts 1mil boinc credits
12:59 <CoderForLife> what's wts?
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12:59 <CoderForLife> oops
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12:59 <Starfury^> want to sell
12:59 <CoderForLife> ah
12:59 <Starfury^> wtb want to buy
12:59 <Starfury^> wtt want to trade
12:59 <Starfury^> not an eve or wow player then
13:00 <CoderForLife> I don't look at ads enough
13:00 <PovAddict> not a mmorpg player
13:01 <jackygrahamez> Maybe I should go to congress and ask them to back the USD by boinc credits
13:01 * PovAddict notes CFL has a split CPID
13:04 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: http://boincstats.com/search/result.php?name=cellutions
13:04 <PovAddict> you show as four users
13:07 <CoderForLife> looking
13:08 <CoderForLife> I was feeling a bit fractured
13:08 <PovAddict> lol
13:08 <CoderForLife> how can I pull myself together?
13:08 <PovAddict> looks like one of those users is on Einstein@Home
13:08 <PovAddict> another on Predictor
13:08 <PovAddict> another on Pirates
13:09 <PovAddict> and the other in all the rest
13:09 <CoderForLife> are they different e-mail addresses?
13:09 <CoderForLife> is that the diff?
13:09 <PovAddict> they might be... but that's not the only reason why it may split
13:09 <Romulus> crap I think I'll have work of 15 of the complete list :P
13:10 <PovAddict> if addresses are the same, having Einstein and one of "the rest" projects attached in the same computer would pull them together
13:11 <CoderForLife> I'll try setting the e-mail addresses
13:11 <PovAddict> just go to "your account" in both and compare addresses
13:13 <CoderForLife> I'll use my account key, since I'm unsure of the address
13:14 <CoderForLife> yup Eistein has a unique e-mail address
13:15 <PovAddict> different from the rest?
13:15 <CoderForLife> yup
13:16 <CoderForLife> no now
13:16 * CoderForLife sits back and waits for the magic to happen
13:16 * CoderForLife waits
13:16 <PovAddict> heh well it will take a while for boincstats to do its update
13:16 <CoderForLife> oh =)
13:16 <PovAddict> say 24 hrs at most
13:16 <CoderForLife> next - um
13:17 <PovAddict> hmm actually the last update was 23 hours ago, so... :D
13:17 <PovAddict> oh wait, depends on when E@H exports stats too... hmm
13:18 <CoderForLife> Predictor...
13:18 <CoderForLife> need key...
13:18 * CoderForLife takes out a large keyring loaded with large keys
13:19 <CoderForLife> a-yup - different address
13:20 <CoderForLife> predictor done
13:21 <CoderForLife> avast ye matey
13:22 * CoderForLife gets out the skeleton key
13:22 <CoderForLife> ack - it's not on my key ring
13:23 <CoderForLife> hmm
13:23 <jackygrahamez> Ok I got a question for someone who knows about VMWare
13:26 <jackygrahamez> I got one vm I can ssh into but the other I cannot
13:28 <CoderForLife> does VMWare show it running?
13:29 * CoderForLife is a good one for asking stupid questions....
13:30 * CoderForLife waits for an e-mail from Pirates
13:31 * CoderForLife knows that it will have to make it through his greylisting filter, so it will take longer
13:35 <CoderForLife> brb
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13:44 <PovAddict> o.0
13:49 <PovAddict> &math calc 1e20 / 937365942.522898
13:49 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
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13:49 <PovAddict> &google calc 1e20 / 937365942.522898
13:49 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1e20 / 937,365,942.522898 = 1.06681922 * 10^(11)
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13:50 <PovAddict> &google calc 1e20 seconds / 937365942.522898
13:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: (1e20 seconds) / 937,365,942.522898 = 3,380.61831 years
13:51 <PovAddict> &google calc 1e20 seconds / 2708120841.235414
13:51 <Romulus> PovAddict: (1e20 seconds) / 2,708,120,841.235414 = 1,170.1385 years
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13:59 <CoderForLife> wb
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14:18 <CoderForLife> re-wb
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14:33 <jackygrahamez> Anyone know why I cannot ssh into the Debian image?
14:34 <jackygrahamez> Its on the VMWare
14:34 <jackygrahamez> I had ssh into a centos running on through VMWare on the same machine using NAT
14:36 <jackygrahamez> Furthermore, I cannot ssh into localhost on this image
14:36 <CoderForLife> I'll ask my stupid question again - does VMWare show it running?
14:36 <jackygrahamez> Port 22 connection refused
14:37 <CoderForLife> then - not knowing Debian - does it allow ssh connections by defautl?
14:37 <CoderForLife> er default
14:38 <jackygrahamez> not sure, I just thought someone here might have experience with this image I downloaded from here http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/VirtualMachines
14:38 <yoyo[RKN]> I used it as startup
14:38 <yoyo[RKN]> but never ssh'ed into it
14:39 <jackygrahamez> Where does one normally go to enable ports then?
14:39 <Romulus> I wonder if he was deciding is you
14:41 <jackygrahamez> I was just having trouble copying files to it
15:00 <jackygrahamez> I found a work around
15:00 <jackygrahamez> But I like to use another ssh client to connect to my server rather than just use VMWare
15:01 <jackygrahamez> Easier to copy and paste
15:10 <PovAddict> maybe there is no ssh
15:10 <PovAddict> so you need to install sshd
15:11 <jackygrahamez> ok I just assumed it would be there if I could ssh out
15:11 <PovAddict> definitely not :)
15:12 <PovAddict> just because you have a ssh client doesn't mean you also have a server you can connect to
15:12 <PovAddict> (just because you install BOINC client doesn't mean you suddenly host a project)
15:12 <PovAddict> it's a good idea for ssh server *not* to be installed by default
15:13 <PovAddict> $10 to whoever figures out what the *hell* CLIENT_STATE::work_fetch_no_new_work is for (in the core client code)
15:33 <CoderForLife> I think I've done what I need to do to get my accounts glued together, PovAddict
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15:55 <xcamel> 'lo
16:03 <CoderForLife> welcome home xcamel
16:04 <CoderForLife> PovAddict: when would you expect my accounts to "come together"?
16:04 <PovAddict> could be up to 24hrs since your change
16:19 * CoderForLife looks at his watch
16:19 <xcamel> thanks
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16:34 * wdsmia_w Yawns
16:35 <wdsmia_w> is it time to go home yet?
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16:50 <xcamel> yup
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17:06 <xcamel> ah.. a little rain...
17:11 <CoderForLife> unbelievable: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356375,00.html
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17:19 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml
17:19 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 45Â°F / 7Â°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.53in / 1000hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM EST; Chance of Rain. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Rain. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Rain. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Rain. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.;
17:19 <xcamel> yup.. that's a bit strange..
17:19 <TheGasGiant> yay...a little rain
17:19 <xcamel> 'lo Paul
17:19 <TheGasGiant> heya Jay
17:19 <TheGasGiant> all well in NY?
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17:25 <TheGasGiant> &ping
17:25 <Romulus> pong
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17:25 <TheGasGiant> &roulette
17:25 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: *click*
17:30 <wdsmia> re-hi
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17:35 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
17:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 79.1°F / 26.2°C | Humidity: 24% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 50s. West wind 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 70s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Low (1 more message)
17:35 <wdsmia> &more
17:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 50. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph.;
17:36 <xcamel> re-hi
17:36 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
17:37 <xcamel> bit of a chill with the rain...
17:37 <wdsmia> nice day here and looks to be a great weekend
17:38 <xcamel> not for us.. on and off showers..
17:38 <xcamel> but I can get some old burn piles taken care of...
17:38 <wdsmia> warm and low humidity cant beat that
17:41 <xcamel> indeed..
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18:01 * CoderForLife falls off his chair
18:01 <CoderForLife> hello TheGasGiant
18:02 * CoderForLife dusts himself off and settles back in
18:02 <jackygrahamez> who you calling a gas giant
18:02 <CoderForLife> hello TGG
18:02 <jackygrahamez> |o|
18:02 * CoderForLife thinks - here we go again...
18:03 <CoderForLife> it's deja deja all over again again
18:04 <jackygrahamez> anyone ever try compressing an VM Image and opening it again?
18:04 <jackygrahamez> duh I downloaded it compressed
18:05 <jackygrahamez> rephrase, Any problems compressing with 7zip
18:05 <CoderForLife> nope - since we standardized on VMWare at w@#%, I decided there were probably much better options out there
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18:06 <CoderForLife> If we pick something, it's probably dull, safe and expensive
18:06 <CoderForLife> where's the thrill?
18:06 <jackygrahamez> Danger is my middle name
18:06 <Romulus> PovAddict, i like that on mIRC ?
18:06 <xcamel> lol
18:07 <CoderForLife> anyone install F9 yet?
18:08 <xcamel> nope
18:11 <CoderForLife> hey TheGasGiant
18:11 * CoderForLife wonders if his machine beeps each time
18:19 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: no reason why compression would cause any problems with a VM image...
18:22 <jackygrahamez> thanks just checking
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18:31 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
18:31 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 94.8°F / 34.9°C | Humidity: 17% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 56 to 64. Winds northwest 5 to 10 mph early in the evening becoming light.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs 93 to 98. Light winds becoming west 15 mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 57 to (1 more message)
18:32 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123
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18:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 100.4°F / 38.0°C | Humidity: 21% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 2.7mph / 4.3km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 50s to lower 60s. East wind 5 to 10 mph except 10 to 20 mph near The Gorge...becoming southwest 5 to 15 mph late.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid to upper 80s. Light wind becoming west 5 to 10 (1 more message)
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18:32 <Tank_Master> &more
18:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: mph in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Mostly clear. Cooler. Lows 50 to 55. West wind 10 to 15 mph becoming light after midnight.; Heat Advisory for Washington County in effect until 8:00 PM PDT on May 16, 2008;
18:32 <efc> moo
18:32 <Tank_Master> damn, I know it was hot out...
18:32 <Tank_Master> but 100f?
18:32 <Tank_Master> old all-time record was 88f
18:32 <Soul_keeper> i'm in the valley so probably 100 here too
18:33 <Soul_keeper> gets hotter in the valleys for some reason
18:33 <xcamel> less air boving
18:33 <CoderForLife> dagnabbit
18:33 <efc> its all women. Send me your surplus. Help save the planet.
18:34 <xcamel> scratch that...
18:34 <xcamel> less air moving
18:34 * Tank_Master heads off to the underground basement
18:34 <Soul_keeper> got me a dark tan yesterday ....
18:34 <Tank_Master> I went to the beach yesterday
18:34 <Soul_keeper> i can almost blend in with the mexicans now
18:34 <Tank_Master> n got burned :P
18:34 <CoderForLife> you mean less bovine air, xcamel
18:35 <Soul_keeper> i was only in direct sun for 8hrs, would probably take 10-12hrs to give me a sun burn
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18:48 <CoderForLife> omg
18:48 <CoderForLife> the fates have aligned
18:48 * TheGasGiant drags himself in...again
18:48 <TheGasGiant> heya Don :)
18:49 <CoderForLife> someone accelerated the Mayan calendar
18:49 <CoderForLife> helloooooo Paul
18:49 <TheGasGiant> howdy doody Don
18:49 * CoderForLife salutes
18:49 <TheGasGiant> all well in BOINC land?
18:50 <CoderForLife> business as usual
18:50 <TheGasGiant> good to see
18:50 <CoderForLife> the first thing we always do is assign blame
18:50 <TheGasGiant> it's a rainy day here...sooooo
18:50 <CoderForLife> then talk about the weather
18:50 <Soul_keeper> is it ok to fart in a public restroom while at a urinal, and then proceed to make direct eye contact with someone ?
18:50 <CoderForLife> =)
18:50 <TheGasGiant> i thought I'd drop by
18:51 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: o.0
18:51 <TheGasGiant> lol
18:51 <CoderForLife> and grace us with your presence?
18:51 <Soul_keeper> :)
18:51 <CoderForLife> or did you come to make direct eye contact?
18:51 * Soul_keeper scurries away in shame
18:51 <quail> &wx ypad
18:51 <TheGasGiant> I'm changing jobs & companies I w#$^ for
18:51 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 54Â°F / 12Â°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 29mph / 46km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM CST; Rain. High:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Rain. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Rain. High:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.;
18:52 <Soul_keeper> lol 54
18:52 <CoderForLife> you'll be so pleased to know that I did one malaria WU in your honor today
18:52 <TheGasGiant> off to get some BIG bucks
18:52 <Soul_keeper> yeah, i'm gonna hafta switch from hot tea to cold tea now ...
18:52 <TheGasGiant> woohoo....I'm honoured (so I thought I'd drop by)
18:52 <CoderForLife> did I ring the bell?
18:52 <Soul_keeper> TheGasGiant, wb
18:53 <TheGasGiant> txs S_k
18:53 <TheGasGiant> just a short drop in
18:53 <TheGasGiant> have to go look at new cars soon
18:53 <CoderForLife> don't be such a stranger
18:53 <Romulus> I am no longer away : Gone for 10 days
18:53 <CoderForLife> speaking of money - do anything with the house yet?
18:54 <TheGasGiant> lol...yeah...got a rough quote from someone
18:54 <TheGasGiant> and we fell off our chair when we heard how much
18:54 <CoderForLife> rough as in estimate, or in impact?
18:54 <Soul_keeper> it's a buyer's market imo
18:54 <CoderForLife> ah impact
18:54 <TheGasGiant> lol...not in Oz
18:55 <Soul_keeper> ahhh
18:55 <wdsmia> *lo Paul
18:55 <CoderForLife> you could only afford one chair to sit in together?
18:55 <Soul_keeper> i hang out in an irc channel full of aussies if you wanna see if you know any ...
18:55 <TheGasGiant> $400k just to build a 5.6m wide by 25m long house
18:55 <TheGasGiant> heya Doug :)
18:55 <CoderForLife> sounds more like a Hollywood set than a house
18:55 <Soul_keeper> heh
18:56 <Soul_keeper> the aussies are flush
18:56 <TheGasGiant> that was the plan...now we're considering paln B
18:56 <CoderForLife> lol
18:56 <Soul_keeper> no government debt, so much surplus they don't even know what to do with it
18:56 <CoderForLife> "pain B"
18:56 <Soul_keeper> the polar opposite of the US
18:56 <TheGasGiant> yeah...but then in my 'new' job it shouldn't be too much of a problem
18:56 <CoderForLife> when the aussies flush, it goes clockwise
18:57 <CoderForLife> ah ah - do tell
18:57 <CoderForLife> plant manager??
18:57 <CoderForLife> CEO??
18:57 <TheGasGiant> starting Jun 2.....Engineering Manager at a small engineering consulting firm
18:57 <CoderForLife> you leaving Aire?
18:57 <TheGasGiant> yup
18:57 <CoderForLife> wow
18:58 <Soul_keeper> lol, i talk to this aussie woman online whose son needs a job ...
18:58 <CoderForLife> did that shock them?
18:58 <TheGasGiant> it's all about the $$$$
18:58 <TheGasGiant> a little
18:58 <CoderForLife> what branch of engineering - chemical?
18:59 <TheGasGiant> I'm planning to get this car in my 'package' -> http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/ContentServer?cid=1178838383003&pagename=FOA%2FDFYPage%2FDefault1024&c=DFYPage
18:59 <Soul_keeper> nice
18:59 <TheGasGiant> yeah..sort of...process plant
18:59 <TheGasGiant> I'll be in charge of a small team of engineers and draftsman
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18:59 <PovAddict> &google calc 937365942.522898 * 7
18:59 <Romulus> PovAddict: 937,365,942.522898 * 7 = 6.5615616 * 10^(9)
19:00 <CoderForLife> nice
19:00 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn
19:00 <Soul_keeper> they might hate you if you pull up in that nice ride :)
19:00 <Rookie_69> Hi, Doug.
19:00 <TheGasGiant> lol...
19:00 <TheGasGiant> heya Glenn :)
19:00 <Rookie_69> Hi, Paul... LTNS.
19:00 <TheGasGiant> too true ace
19:01 <Rookie_69> Now that you're back for the winter, I'll be gone for the summer?
19:01 <TheGasGiant> I must say, i'm pretty happy about it (the new job)
19:01 <Rookie_69> New job?
19:02 <TheGasGiant> ahh....for once it's raining here
19:02 <Soul_keeper> he's the boss now
19:02 <Rookie_69> Still AL?
19:02 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn, SK
19:02 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
19:02 <Romulus> I asked because we have a dramatic impact on the spot electricity price was hitting $10,000/MWh during the run time Vs. instance size.
19:02 <TheGasGiant> nope...start the new job June 2...hi Jay
19:03 <TheGasGiant> I need to get the company to finish their website
19:03 <CoderForLife> you're not a company is you don't have a web site anymore
19:04 <CoderForLife> if*
19:04 <Soul_keeper> that kid that needs a job is apparently a programmer ...
19:04 <Romulus> Title: GLP: Gas Liquid Processing - Home (at www.glp.com.au)
19:05 <CoderForLife> are they in Melbourne?
19:05 <TheGasGiant> yep....35 minute drive vs the 15 to 20 I had before
19:05 <CoderForLife> the web site doesn't say.... needs finishing... =)
19:06 <CoderForLife> but you'll have a faster car...
19:06 <Soul_keeper> what's the freeway speed limit there ?
19:06 <TheGasGiant> great for freeway cruising in rush hr traffic
19:06 <CoderForLife> ah found it
19:07 <CoderForLife> Tullamarine
19:07 <TheGasGiant> near the airport....
19:07 <CoderForLife> what are you going to tell the Marine?
19:08 <Rookie_69> Going my way, sailor?
19:08 <CoderForLife> lol
19:08 <Romulus> now I know that.
19:08 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.
19:08 <CoderForLife> lol
19:08 <TheGasGiant> hehehe
19:08 <CoderForLife> hello Glenn - thanks for the punch line - I knew I could depend on you =)
19:09 <TheGasGiant> sry...was off on other machine (briefly) setting another Godzilla movie going for Matty
19:10 <CoderForLife> Going to w@#% for GuLP...
19:10 <TheGasGiant> so I can GuLP down the money ;)
19:10 <xcamel> /hurl..
19:11 <TheGasGiant> but not as much as Jay....
19:11 <CoderForLife> it's all about the $$$$
19:11 <TheGasGiant> and family (first) then the $$$$
19:11 <CoderForLife> and then there's the $$$$
19:12 <xcamel> indeed
19:12 <TheGasGiant> everyones family well?
19:12 <CoderForLife> my sister is still struggling
19:12 <Rookie_69> :-)
19:13 <xcamel> everyone OK here..
19:13 <wdsmia> good here
19:14 * Rookie_69 thinks his smilie jumped in at the wrong time.
19:14 <CoderForLife> we're trying to get her well enough to get home - been since before Thanksgiving
19:14 <TheGasGiant> wow...sry to here she's still not well Don
19:14 <TheGasGiant> hear...
19:15 <CoderForLife> the insurance has run out
19:15 <TheGasGiant> bugger
19:15 <CoderForLife> she's now going into debt at the rate of $11,000 per month
19:15 <PovAddict> o_O
19:15 <TheGasGiant> lucky you get paid the big bucks
19:15 <CoderForLife> aside from that and my landslide, I have no worries
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19:16 <TheGasGiant> landslide?!?!!!
19:16 <TheGasGiant> got pics?
19:16 <CoderForLife> yes - none lately
19:16 <CoderForLife> it dropped about a foot overnight due to the 3" of rain yesterday
19:17 <TheGasGiant> what happened? ahhh I was going to say it rained a lot, got saturated and gave way
19:17 <xcamel> basically..
19:17 <xcamel> and then some...
19:17 <CoderForLife> don't mean to burden this thread with my woes
19:17 <CoderForLife> I'll PM some links
19:17 <TheGasGiant> lol....what are friends for!
19:19 * Rookie_69 is trying to throw enough bits together to call supper.
19:19 <xcamel> your woes are allways welcome here..
19:21 <xcamel> and SciFiFriday too..
19:21 <Rookie_69> ... like, I finally replaced that leaky oil pan and now my radiator is spewing out green van blood?
19:22 <PovAddict> eek, I just accidentally set my media player to get music from /media
19:22 <PovAddict> which means it was spidering my whole Windows partition in /media/disk
19:23 * PovAddict runs it with "/media/disk/Documents\ and\ Settings/Nicolas/Mis\ documentos/Mi\ mÃºsica/" instead
19:23 <efc> I'll have to get TGG working on my plan for gas domination
19:24 <TheGasGiant> mwhahahaha...mwhahahaha
19:24 <Rookie_69> No idea what Pov said but it started with eek, so it must be bad.
19:24 <efc> My sunlight+seltzer water=>Methane plan
19:24 <xcamel> e - the java app is working now...
19:26 <TheGasGiant> sounds like a sort of plan
19:26 <efc> There are details to work out, like how to do it
19:27 <efc> I'm reading Chemistry for Dummies, chapter 8
19:27 <TheGasGiant> lol....do it in winter - so you can warm your house
19:27 <PovAddict> yeah when he sets things on fire while experimenting
19:28 <PovAddict> or makes things explode
19:28 <PovAddict> that will warm house
19:28 <efc> just getting water splitting via light would be pretty amazing
19:28 <efc> making any kind of nice burnable hydrocarbon is just gravy
19:28 <TheGasGiant> gravy for jam...
19:31 <efc> Methane just seemed like the easiest one
19:32 <Rookie_69> Hook up a photocell to a hydrogen generator if you want fuel from water... It is probably the easiest...
19:32 <efc> That would be around 5% efficient and extremely expensive
19:32 <TheGasGiant> very inefficient with st'd solar cells
19:33 <TheGasGiant> there is a company is Oz called Solar Systems using space grade solar cells to do it....
19:33 <efc> A chemical process might be something like dissolve this catalyst in water, pump in some CO2 and let it cook. Much, much cheaper
19:33 <efc> We could power everything right now from solar, its just way too expensive
19:35 <efc> I do have some more specific ideas but need to learn a lot more
19:36 <efc> In the meantime, buy my book, "How to dupe venture capitalists and make a bundle"
19:36 <xcamel> generate huge quantities of oxygen from aluminum oxide..
19:37 <Rookie_69> ... just add electricity?
19:37 <efc> Plants do all this of course, but they are good at making enzymes and have other tricks
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19:39 <xcamel> or something that generates alumina via catalyst from water - generating huge amounts of pure hydrogen
19:39 <sethy> ding
19:39 <xcamel> dingbat
19:39 <sethy> omg dingbat
19:40 <efc> I've thought about using 300ish nanometer Al strips as photon antennas. Dunno if that would really work like I think it would.
19:40 <efc> It needs to be a polar molecule to make the water "stick" and catch an energized electron
19:40 <efc> even then I'm not sure if it will split
19:41 <TheGasGiant> gotta go...wife draging me out shopping...then off to the car yard.. :)
19:41 <TheGasGiant> bye all
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19:42 <efc> It must not be easy, or someone would be doing it
19:43 <efc> Or maybe somebody did and the oil company had them wacked
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19:43 <efc> Somebody, knocking at the door, brb
19:44 * efc got wacked
19:44 <xcamel> ouchies
19:45 <efc> I was reading that the current CO2 levels are just above "suffocation" for plants
19:46 <efc> Were 20 times higher in Dino-days
19:53 <xcamel> there is no "suffocation" for plants when it comes to CO2
19:53 <xcamel> somebody writing BS again
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19:54 <jackygrahamez_> hi
19:54 <Rookie_69> That would never happen.
19:54 <xcamel> 'lo jack
19:55 <efc> They'll die without any CO2 ..
19:56 <PovAddict> they produce their own CO2 when breathing...
19:56 <xcamel> ok - then they use the term backwards..
19:56 <jackygrahamez_> come again?
19:56 <xcamel> they inhale co2, and exhale oxygen and other stuff..
19:57 <jackygrahamez_> who?
19:57 <xcamel> plants..
19:57 <jackygrahamez_> Robert?
19:57 <xcamel> laterz..
19:57 <efc> suffocate - not enough O2, or not enough CO2
19:58 <PovAddict> as I understand it, sunlight and CO2 in O2 and sugar out on photosynthesis, sugar and O2 in CO2 out when "breathing"
19:58 <sethy> HAY GUISE - FLUXBOX.ORG IS BACK
19:58 <PovAddict> sethy: who cares? :)
19:58 <sethy> me and you
19:58 <sethy> and everyone else that uses fluxbox
19:58 <sethy> duh
19:58 <jackygrahamez_> ohh you guys are interested in photosynthesis
19:59 <sethy> noting like good old carbon dioxide
19:59 <Romulus> as far as i thought...
19:59 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez_: as a general rule, if you join an IRC channel, you always join in the *middle* of a discussion :)
19:59 * CoderForLife sits in the corner like a potted plant
20:00 <Rookie_69> ...Carbon trioxide in Star Trek talk...
20:00 <jackygrahamez_> Any more questions about PS? I'm your man
20:00 <CoderForLife> corbomite
20:01 <CoderForLife> tranya
20:01 <CoderForLife> tribbles
20:01 <jackygrahamez_> Seven of Nine
20:02 <Rookie_69> OICU81
20:02 <CoderForLife> the category is... things you can suk on
20:02 <Rookie_69> OICU812.
20:02 <efc> Sucrose in water would almost do it, except its the wrong color
20:02 <CoderForLife> hydroxide
20:03 <efc> sucrose is polar, and water soluble, but its white
20:03 <sethy> googlemail has updated..
20:03 <CoderForLife> um how about hydroxide
20:03 <sethy> the loading process isnt just 'loading' it now has loading bar
20:03 <CoderForLife> or maybe hydroxide
20:04 <CoderForLife> or come to think of it, hydroxide might work
20:05 <PovAddict> sethy: orly
20:05 <PovAddict> I use imap anyway :P
20:05 <sethy> gogo web browser trial
20:05 <sethy> ?
20:05 <CoderForLife> go go gadget
20:05 <sethy> legs
20:05 <sethy> POSTMAN PAT
20:06 <CoderForLife> well off to photosynthesize in front of SciFi
20:06 <sethy> better than SciLon
20:07 <CoderForLife> they come on later
20:07 <jackygrahamez_> Ah Battlestar
20:07 <CoderForLife> saw the 10 minute preview today
20:07 <CoderForLife> looks like a good ep
20:07 <jackygrahamez_> Do they find Earth?
20:07 <CoderForLife> "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner?" is the title
20:07 <PovAddict> sethy: I see no bar
20:08 <jackygrahamez_> Rev Jeremia Wright?
20:08 <sethy> i got one
20:08 <sethy> hold on i taek screentshotz?
20:08 <CoderForLife> the key line of the first ten minutes: "I don't know if they're going to feed you... or frak you"
20:08 <Rookie_69> Hydrogen peroxide is supposed to be a good fuel and is practically water when looked at as a chemical...
20:09 <sethy> on msn?
20:09 <jackygrahamez_> Well it was used in early rockets during WWII
20:09 <jackygrahamez_> Very volitile
20:09 <PovAddict> sethy: send or w,e
20:10 <Rookie_69> Used for setting land speed records IIRC.
20:10 <Romulus> And my BOINC stuff winds up not voting
20:11 <efc> Such little molecules don't tend to absorb light (though I am not sure exactly what determines how a substance responds to light)
20:11 <Rookie_69> Good thing I'm chaste... as opposed to chased...
20:11 <jackygrahamez_> Quencing surface area are key
20:11 <CoderForLife> I'm (way) off
20:11 <CoderForLife> cya
20:11 <jackygrahamez_> Quenching
20:11 <jackygrahamez_> Aromatic carbons are good absorbers
20:12 <efc> Yeah, oil is black or at least dark..
20:12 <jackygrahamez_> Benzene is aromatic
20:12 <efc> Chlorophyll looks to me like a mini-antenna, dunno if thats why it really absorbs well
20:13 <efc> long chain with a Magnesium ion on the end (dunno what thats for)
20:13 <jackygrahamez_> That is where my project is involved
20:13 <jackygrahamez_> An advancement in photo hydrogen was made for light absorbing by shortening the atenna
20:14 <sethy> PovAddict: http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5184/sadfghfdhten7.jpg
20:14 <PovAddict> nice
20:14 <jackygrahamez_> Efficiency in light collecting increased from 2 to 15%
20:14 <efc> Hmm
20:15 <sethy> also still no reply from jenn ;_l
20:15 <efc> I'd think that you might collect more, but if its a higher energy level than the plant can use.. it would tend to cook it.
20:15 <jackygrahamez_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_hydrogen_production_(Algae)
20:16 <jackygrahamez_> short atanae collect lower wavelenghts which have higher energy
20:16 <jackygrahamez_> towards the violet end of the spectra
20:16 <efc> Right, but its going into a somewhat fixed process, my understanding was that if you have extra, it would get converted towards heat?
20:17 <Romulus> you make client for your help if you resist? :)
20:17 <jackygrahamez_> So the research discovered more efficient light collection, I'm interested in the second part, deprotonation
20:17 <efc> That does look impressive
20:18 <jackygrahamez_> bottleneck is durable enzymes
20:18 <efc> UV cooks them?
20:18 <jackygrahamez_> No, high energy oxygen degrades Fe-Hydrogenase
20:19 <jackygrahamez_> Finding a better enzyme is easier said than done
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20:20 <jackygrahamez_> or somehow sequester the oxygen
20:22 <efc> I wanted to learn enough Quantum that I could simulate some of these things very accurately and then try experiments
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20:22 <efc> But it seems to be hopeless complicated
20:22 <KathrynM> mornin all
20:22 <wdsmia> mornin Kathryn
20:22 <jackygrahamez_> I'm on the same page with you, if we could collaborate maybe we could help eachother learn
20:23 <Rookie_69> Hi, K.
20:24 <jackygrahamez_> one thing that occurs to me, from reading about molecular force fields, computational models are great for describing behavior you expect, using them as a predictive tool like I'm attempting is a real challenge
20:25 <jackygrahamez_> When you setup an experiment you have to calibrate parameters every time to fit the right circumstance
20:28 <jackygrahamez_> Still I am hopeful that they point us in the right direction
20:28 <jackygrahamez_> When done correctly
20:30 <efc> I have to hit the road, nice talking to you. I hope to steal many more ideas soon!
20:30 * efc waves
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20:30 <jackygrahamez_> I hope to donate my 2 cents
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20:32 <Rookie_69> Oom!
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21:23 <Rookie_69> If everybody were to donate their two cents to me. I d still have less than 70 cents collected.
21:23 <Rookie_69> My keys still seem to be fu'ed.
21:24 <Rookie_69> Maybe my fingers need to all be broken.
21:24 * wdsmia wacks Rookie_69's finger with a 2x4
21:25 * Rookie_69 feels better now.
21:25 <KathrynM> forget a 2x4. Just drop the lid of the copying machine onto your hand.
21:25 <KathrynM> You'll get a huge bruise and a very sore hand.
21:25 * KathrynM speaks for experience
21:25 <KathrynM> errrrrr
21:25 <KathrynM> from
21:26 * wdsmia remember memograph machines that would take the hand
21:26 * wdsmia needs a ne "s" key
21:26 <Rookie_69> Drum takes fingers.
21:27 <wdsmia> and "w" lol
21:27 <Rookie_69> and a w key.
21:27 <Rookie_69> Lol.
21:28 <wdsmia> or maybe just a new ring finger
21:29 <Rookie_69> What does a ring finger have to do with it? Don't the index fingers do all the typing?
21:30 <wdsmia> only for Rookie's :)
21:30 <Rookie_69> :-P
21:31 <Rookie_69> Hunt and peck works for typing as well as feeding...
21:32 <Rookie_69> ... not very...
21:32 <wdsmia> chop stick typing and eating?
21:33 * Rookie_69 wonders if he can even hold a set of chopsticks anymore.
21:34 * KathrynM is good with chopsticks
21:34 * Rookie_69 notes that he spends too much time every day picking up dropped tools and hardware.
21:36 * Rookie_69 is also using right handed tools in a left handed wold so is at a double disadvantage right off the bat.
21:36 <Rookie_69> Wold?.. world...
21:37 <Rookie_69> Hammers are designed for smashing left handed hands.
21:38 <wdsmia> WOLD great Harry harry chapin song
21:38 * Rookie_69 doesn't blame the rest of the world... they're not in their right minds.
21:38 <Rookie_69> WOLD... Yup.
21:41 * Rookie_69 fears something nasty like MS is creeping in, but gave up doctors as a waste of time years ago.
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21:43 <wdsmia> MicroSoft?
21:43 <Rookie_69> Not that bad.
21:47 <Rookie_69> It's probably just arthritis or the like in my hands... I've stalled too many engines by jamming my hand in the belts... but that doesn't explain the neck, back, hips, knees, calves, ankles, feet, etc.
21:48 <wdsmia> Thats easy you have reached middle age lol
21:49 <Rookie_69> Nope. I've reached old age.
21:49 <wdsmia> your younger than me
21:49 <Rookie_69> What... a week?
21:49 <wdsmia> more than that
21:49 <Rookie_69> Ok... a month.
21:50 <Rookie_69> ... or two..
21:51 <Rookie_69> 45 is not wheelchair time!
21:51 <wdsmia> 62 was a bad year for kids... it produced the 2 of us
21:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.
21:56 <Rookie_69> One of the old guys with an artificial hip who stops in at work once in a while tool a look at me and offered his cane... said I needed it more than him.
21:56 <Rookie_69> It felt good, too.
21:58 <Rookie_69> ... took...
22:03 <Rookie_69> Bedtime here...
22:03 <Rookie_69> NN.
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22:04 <wdsmia> &nn
22:04 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
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22:39 * KathrynM goes to eat lunch
22:39 <wdsmia> HF
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