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01:18 <efc> &weather 30625
01:18 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 15 mph.; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds up to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.;
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05:11 <mweltin> yoyo
05:11 <mweltin> how are you
05:12 <yoyo[RKN]> fine, thy, how is tsp running
05:12 <mweltin> Dr. Anderson is helping me debug my wrapper problem and added some debug messages to wrapper.C but I forgot what I do with it.
05:13 <mweltin> as for TSP I'm trying to get it up an running again.
05:14 <mweltin> I got burnt out on it, spent way too much time on it, and needed to make some money. But that is who life goes.
05:14 <mweltin> put it down for a month and trying to get it working again.
05:15 <yoyo[RKN]> now you are fit again ;)
05:16 <mweltin> I'm much better now, put some realistic limits on myself.
05:17 <mweltin> so where does wrapper.C get used in all this mess again?
05:18 <mweltin> in may app dir I have two apps, the aco_1.7 and the aco=acoAlgo_1.7 one of these is the wrapper right?
05:19 <mweltin> just renamed
05:19 <mweltin> I forgot how complex this thing is
05:20 <yoyo[RKN]> on my side it is simpler
05:20 <yoyo[RKN]> i did not rename the wrapper
05:21 <mweltin> ok, but that is what one of those files are, one is the real app and the other is wrapper.
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> boincadm@r094:~/projects/yoyo/apps/crunch/wrapper_1.22_windows_intelx86.exe> l
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> insgesamt 1012
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> drwxr-x--- 2 boincadm boinc 4096 12. Mai 11:37 ./
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> drwxr-x--- 49 boincadm boinc 4096 13. Mai 21:16 ../
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> -rwxr-x--x 1 boincadm boinc 539136 12. Mai 11:36 crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe*
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> -rwxr-x--x 1 boincadm boinc 13 12. Mai 11:36 crunch_1.01_windows_intelx86.exe.file_ref_info*
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> -rwxr-x--x 1 boincadm boinc 2768 12. Mai 11:36 job.xml=job_1.07_windows_intelx86.xml*
05:22 <yoyo[RKN]> -rwxr-xr-x 1 boincadm boinc 471040 12. Mai 09:18 wrapper_1.22_windows_intelx86.exe*
05:26 <mweltin> aco_1.7_i686-pc-linux-gnu aco=acoAlgo_1.7_i686-pc-linux-gnu job.xml=job_1.7.xml
05:26 <mweltin> but that is fine at least one is wrapper and I can figure out which one easy enough.
05:28 <mweltin> what the heck does this mean? (Look at your DB structure using "explain" queries to see
05:28 <mweltin> / which ones you need
05:29 <mweltin> in the db_update.php file
05:29 <Romulus> how are things on the iPod
05:37 <mweltin> where is wrapper?
05:37 <Romulus> I guess wrapper is still lookin for job.xml as well, mweltin
05:38 <mweltin> I forgot how much romie is a pain
05:44 <CoderForLife> he's always there to remind you
05:45 <CoderForLife> morning mweltin
05:45 <CoderForLife> morning yoyo[RKN]
05:45 <mweltin> hey cfl
05:46 <mweltin> so why would you call a static lib directly libstdc++.a, and not -lstdc++
05:46 <mweltin> my wrapper buid is failing there, but lib is on my box, but so I can manage to get it to build, but so I'm just curious.
05:55 <CoderForLife> dunno, unless there's a chance of confusion
05:55 <mweltin> makes sense to me
05:55 <yoyo[RKN]> which fault did you get mweltin?
05:56 <mweltin> it builds fine now, I just had to modify the make for to tell it where the archive was.
05:56 <CoderForLife> finding or not finding stuff along Java's classpath is a source of most Java problems
05:56 <mweltin> I just didnt understand calling it by the full name and not -lsomethingsomething
05:57 <mweltin> I never got into java
05:57 * CoderForLife yawns
05:57 <mweltin> Im doing a lot of C for ARM right now.
05:57 <mweltin> and some ARM assembly.
05:57 <CoderForLife> nice
05:57 <CoderForLife> talking to bare metal
05:57 <mweltin> found a great book on it too, free
05:58 <mweltin> CAN UART and DMA so far and some Timer stuff
05:58 <CoderForLife> huh? I heard "great" and "free" in the same sentence... I don't understand =)
05:59 <CoderForLife> maybe you have a DMA problem with your UART =)
05:59 <mweltin> its full of stuff I never thought of by makeing you for loops count down to zero you save one instruction per iteration of the loop
06:00 * CoderForLife starts testing some code fixes - hopefully this will be the last run
06:00 <mweltin> Direct Memory access, and the LPC2378 you can dump from memory right to a peripheral without going through a register.
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06:03 <CoderForLife> my quick test looks OK - now to unleash the 5 hour run....
06:04 <mweltin> good luck
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06:04 * TheGasGiant is back!
06:04 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml
06:04 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 50Â°F / 10Â°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1004hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 25mph / 41km/h | Updated: 7:30 PM EST; Rain. High:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.;
06:05 <mweltin> hahaahahaha
06:05 <TheGasGiant> wow...it's warmed up
06:05 <TheGasGiant> heya mweltin
06:05 <mweltin> I've been on this island for over a year now
06:05 <mweltin> hey gas
06:05 <mweltin> the weather never changes
06:05 <TheGasGiant> just a little warmer than here i bet....
06:05 <mweltin> I like it that way.
06:05 <TheGasGiant> me too...
06:06 <TheGasGiant> today was colddddd
06:06 <Romulus> I would take days to crunch WUs
06:06 <TheGasGiant> how's tsp going?
06:06 <mweltin> I realized that is why people here are so short sighted, the concept that the future may be different doesnt occur to them.
06:06 <CoderForLife> morning TheGasGiant
06:06 <mweltin> I'm working on getting it back on track.
06:06 <TheGasGiant> heya CFL...told ya I'd be back :)
06:07 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go fetch some breakfast - brb
06:07 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 | Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8200 @ 2.66GHz 2669.861 MHz | Bogomips: 10682.6 | Mem: 3083/3291M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 226.74G Free: 179.38G | Procs: 120 | Uptime: 1 hr 5 mins 43 secs | Load: 3.79 2.19 1.19 | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) @ 1440x900 (32 bpp) | eth1: In: 15.20M Out: 2.23M
06:07 <CoderForLife> I'm glad you came back - thanks
06:07 <TheGasGiant> heya Dale
06:07 <mweltin> I ran out of money and had to find a real job for a while, I also got burnt out from working on it so much.
06:07 <TheGasGiant> ahh...damn
06:07 <quail> TheGasGiant: that my new system I got today :-)
06:07 <mweltin> I thinkI have a good balance between work, diving, and boinc now.
06:07 <TheGasGiant> sweeeeeeeeet
06:08 <mweltin> what did you get quail?
06:08 <TheGasGiant> balance is good
06:08 <quail> TheGasGiant: howdy Paul, How are you?
06:08 <TheGasGiant> all good Dale
06:08 <quail> :-)
06:08 <TheGasGiant> you BOINCing on that quail?
06:08 * quail doing a cpu burnin atm
06:09 <TheGasGiant> Shrek is on atm...great show
06:10 <quail> TheGasGiant: I may do
06:10 <mweltin> ok I'm going to turn in for the night
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06:10 <mweltin> glad to be back
06:10 <mweltin> take care
06:10 <TheGasGiant> you should Dale...great burn in.....use the latest optimised SETI app
06:10 <TheGasGiant> k..have a good day
06:11 <mweltin> thanks
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06:11 <quail> TheGasGiant: I still have to install debian 64bit yet, I running 32 bit version atm
06:11 <TheGasGiant> 32bit will do
06:12 <TheGasGiant> just BOINC it
06:12 <TheGasGiant> ;)
06:13 <CoderForLife> b
06:13 <TheGasGiant> wb Don
06:13 <CoderForLife> thx
06:13 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
06:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 46.2°F / 7.9°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 50 percent (1 more message)
06:14 <CoderForLife> &more
06:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of showers. Lows in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;
06:14 <CoderForLife> ... I don't need more rain ...
06:15 <Romulus> compile it myself? http://mindmodeling.org/beta/forum_thread.php?id=86#516
06:15 <TheGasGiant> we've had an inch today....great stuff
06:15 * CoderForLife receives the package, and re-addresses it to TGG
06:15 <TheGasGiant> hehehe....been too dry here
06:16 <CoderForLife> otoh - wouldn'y want to get waterspots on that new car
06:16 <TheGasGiant> lol...haven't got it yet...haven't even ordered it
06:16 <TheGasGiant> but I am driving a new Ford Mondeo atm....trial car
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06:19 * TheGasGiant thinks he blew CFL away with the talk of new cars an' all
06:19 <quail> CoderForLife: howdy Don
06:19 <CoderForLife> yep kinda, versus my situation
06:19 <CoderForLife> hello Dale
06:20 <TheGasGiant> :)
06:22 <CoderForLife> so to finish my story...
06:23 <CoderForLife> there's a neighborhood across the river, in northern Kentucky
06:23 * TheGasGiant listens intently
06:23 <CoderForLife> where the houses line both sides of a street on top of a tall hill
06:23 <Romulus> /me without something after it shows is someone playing with his parents.
06:23 <CoderForLife> after the drought plus snow/rain...
06:23 * TheGasGiant leans in closer
06:24 <CoderForLife> one side of the hill has fallen away, and ripped all the backs of the houses on one side of the street open
06:24 <TheGasGiant> woah
06:24 <CoderForLife> the houses looks like little doll houses on top of the hill - you can see inside all the rooms of the houses though the back
06:24 * TheGasGiant recoils in shock...
06:25 <TheGasGiant> wow....too close to home for you
06:25 <CoderForLife> Southwest Ohio spends more money per capita than any other place in the US on retention walls / landscape control
06:25 <TheGasGiant> brb...Matty to bed :)
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06:26 <CoderForLife> the hills here like to fall down
06:26 <CoderForLife> oh ok
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06:41 <CoderForLife> brb
06:41 <Romulus> I've mailed the BOINC Wiki? Clicking that BOINC logo returns me to figure out how rsync and cron work
06:42 <TheGasGiant> b....sleepy boy
06:51 <CoderForLife> b
06:52 <TheGasGiant> wb
06:52 <CoderForLife> how old is Matty now?
06:52 <TheGasGiant> 9
06:52 <CoderForLife> excellent
06:52 <TheGasGiant> yeah...he's slowly changing
06:52 <CoderForLife> as expected
06:52 <CoderForLife> as needed
06:52 <TheGasGiant> every other week I look at him and think...wow he's growing up
06:53 <TheGasGiant> Stephen is 23?
06:53 <CoderForLife> yes, 24 in November
06:54 <CoderForLife> the last year I can claim him as a dependent
06:54 <TheGasGiant> ahhh...time to kick him out of home?
06:54 <CoderForLife> not a chance from my perspective
06:55 <TheGasGiant> excellent
06:55 <CoderForLife> he'll do things of his own accord soon enough
06:56 <CoderForLife> then I'll be glad/sad
06:56 <TheGasGiant> has he got a job..or is he still studying?
06:56 <CoderForLife> yes
06:57 <CoderForLife> fulltime student, parttime job
06:57 <TheGasGiant> excellent...I'd hire anyone (almost) who is studying and working over someone who is just studying
06:58 <Romulus> Title: Light-Speed.com GameServers, Ventrilo Servers, TeamSpeak Servers (at www.light-speed.com)
06:59 <Romulus> Title: University of Cincinnati Clermont College - Clermont Batavia, OH (at www.clc.uc.edu)
06:59 <TheGasGiant> looking
07:00 <TheGasGiant> a good way to learn real computing
07:00 <TheGasGiant> system admin etc
07:01 <TheGasGiant> brb
07:01 <CoderForLife> yeah - he had done his own game servers at home, so doing it for pay was nothing
07:01 <CoderForLife> he's doing tech support and programming
07:04 <TheGasGiant> nice...does he want to w#$^ in Oz, AL has position vacant in its help desk
07:05 <CoderForLife> I guess that's where I'd have to assert myself
07:05 <Romulus> i need to drink coffee more often :)
07:06 <TheGasGiant> that's be fun to see Romy
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07:06 <TheGasGiant> 'd
07:06 <CoderForLife> having lady friend several states away is one thing
07:06 <CoderForLife> moving to another country would be quite another
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07:11 <TheGasGiant> grrrr
07:12 <TheGasGiant> missed everything since I posted the link
07:12 <CoderForLife> um posted what link?
07:13 <TheGasGiant> nice RAC on SETI on this machine -> http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a251/TheGasGiant/BOINCToday.jpg
07:13 <TheGasGiant> that link
07:13 <CoderForLife> the last thing I saw was "'d"
07:13 <CoderForLife> looking
07:13 <TheGasGiant> ahh..the link was just after that
07:14 <CoderForLife> seti is taking off like a spaceship
07:14 <TheGasGiant> yeah...a new optimised client
07:14 <TheGasGiant> app I should say
07:15 <CoderForLife> I'll need to try that sometime
07:15 <CoderForLife> I don't do seti much anymore
07:15 <TheGasGiant> better SSE3 optimisations done by a few users
07:15 <CoderForLife> got the ubuntu box keeping the little flickering SETI candle lit
07:15 <TheGasGiant> I've only done it since this app became available
07:16 <TheGasGiant> I was doing a little SETI just so I could post on the message boards
07:16 <CoderForLife> well - I sincerely regret to say that I must be off on my Saturday morning errands
07:16 <CoderForLife> food on the table, gas in the tank
07:16 * TheGasGiant pouts
07:16 <CoderForLife> bills in the mail
07:17 <CoderForLife> cash in the wallet
07:17 <CoderForLife> them things
07:17 <CoderForLife> I was hanging here to chat with you
07:17 <CoderForLife> but I need to get those done
07:17 <CoderForLife> so...
07:17 <CoderForLife> sorry I have to go
07:18 <CoderForLife> please come back soon
07:18 <CoderForLife> and with that...
07:19 <CoderForLife> &monologue CoderForLife
07:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: (monologue [<channel>]) -- Returns the number of consecutive lines you've sent in <channel> without being interrupted by someone else (i.e. how long your current 'monologue' is). <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
07:19 <CoderForLife> &monologue
07:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Your current monologue is at least 11 lines long.
07:19 <CoderForLife> cya
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07:58 <KathrynM> darn it. I missed Markus again!
08:05 <xcamel> 'lo
08:06 <xcamel> &wx 12074
08:06 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 47.0°F / 8.3°C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 29.56in / 1000.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and small hail this afternoon. Highs around 70. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly (2 more messages)
08:06 <xcamel> &more
08:06 <Romulus> xcamel: cloudy with showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of showers after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and small hail in the evening. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a chance of rain in the morning...then mostly cloudy with rain likely in the afternoon. Cooler (1 more message)
08:06 <xcamel> &more
08:06 <Romulus> xcamel: with highs around 60. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 60 percent.;
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08:50 <xcamel> nobody up yet?
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09:24 <xcamel> ip kill >> 126.96.36.199
09:34 <Didactylos> Heh. I'm rereading Foundation right now.
09:51 <CoderForLife> back
09:52 <CoderForLife> Foundation - Asimov or Ayn Rand?
09:54 <CoderForLife> looks like someone near Cincinnati won the MegaMillions jackpot
10:07 <CoderForLife> ack - sorry - Ayn Rand was "Fountainhead"
10:08 <CoderForLife> The Foundation trilogy is great, plus the prequels, sequels, and ties into the Robot series
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11:05 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
11:10 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
11:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 68.0°F / 20.0°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.6mph / 4.2km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny this morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers this afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 50 (1 more message)
11:11 <CoderForLife> &more
11:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent chance of showers. Lows in the upper 40s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. A 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 60s. West winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph.;
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13:49 <Soul_keeper> :)
13:52 <CoderForLife> hello Soul_keeper
13:53 <Soul_keeper> yo
14:00 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
14:00 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 86.9°F / 30.5°C | Humidity: 35% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 94 to 102. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 60 to 67. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs 90 to 95 in the western valleys to 96 to 104 near the (1 more message)
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14:27 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
14:27 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 83.2°F / 28.4°C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny with isolated showers and thunderstorms. High in the lower 80s. West wind 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 50. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph decreasing (1 more message)
14:27 <wdsmia> &more
14:27 <Romulus> wdsmia: to 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Cooler. High in the upper 60s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph in the afternoon.;
14:31 <Soul_keeper> lol go google !!!
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14:48 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw
14:48 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 46.8Â°F / 8.2Â°C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 29.15in / 987.0hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 16.1mph / 25.9km/h | Updated: 3:48 PM ADT; Today - Rain with the risk of thundershowers. Amount 20 mm(0.8 in). Fog patches. Wind becoming east 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) early this afternoon. Temperature steady near 7C(45F).; Tonight - Rain ending (1 more message)
14:48 <Rookie_69> &more
14:48 <Romulus> Rookie_69: this evening then cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. Amount 2 to 4 mm(0.1 to 0.2 in). Fog patches. Wind northeast 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) becoming northwest 30 km/h (19 mph) near midnight. Low 6C(43F).; Sunday - Cloudy with sunny periods. Clearing in the afternoon. Fog patches dissipating in the morning. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph). High 15C(59F).;
14:49 <PovIpod> weather channel?
14:52 <Rookie_69> WX.com??? Weather eXperts maybe.
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15:03 * Rookie_69 is getting dizzy watching pov pop in and out.
15:05 * Rookie_69 looks around and wishes "housework" was automatically done by the house too.
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15:32 <Rookie_69> Sort of watching... Ghostbusters2??? on Spike TV.
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16:12 * CoderForLife looks out the window
16:14 * KathrynM_ looks out the window and notices the sun starting to rise
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16:18 <Rookie_69> Hi, K.
16:18 <Rookie_69> Hi, CFL.
16:22 <CoderForLife> hi Rookie_69
16:22 <CoderForLife> hi KathrynM
16:22 <wdsmia> *lo Don
16:22 <CoderForLife> hi wdsmia
16:28 <wdsmia> Hmm moved up to 6th place LHC :)
16:28 <Soul_keeper> gettum !!!
16:30 <wdsmia> only 5 to go
16:31 <wdsmia> and 903K lol
16:32 <Soul_keeper> upgrade time ?
16:32 <CoderForLife> din-din --- bbiab
16:37 <Rookie_69> Masticated steer is still mostly congealed... Dinner won't be for a while.
16:37 <Romulus> thx for the RSX cores to get better
16:45 <xcamel> re-hi
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16:46 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.
16:47 <xcamel> Hi Glenn
16:50 <xcamel> finally got a storm close enough to verify stormview works..
16:51 <Rookie_69> That's... um... good, I guess.
16:51 <Rookie_69> Lol.
16:52 <Rookie_69> New software?
16:53 <Rookie_69> &/or hardware?
16:53 <Romulus> No idea.
16:55 <xcamel> new sw for old hardware
16:55 <Rookie_69> Ah.
16:57 <xcamel> on the bottom
16:57 <Rookie_69> Looks noisy near Buffalo
17:04 <PovAddict> java applet loading
17:04 <PovAddict> text blinking like crazy
17:05 <PovAddict> ...loading...
17:06 <Soul_keeper> lol, better go makes something to drink
17:06 <PovAddict> looks like an abuse of Java anyway
17:06 <Soul_keeper> hopefully it isn't crashed after loading by the time you get back :)
17:06 <PovAddict> loading progress bar is at 100% but nothing happens
17:10 <Soul_keeper> you know "forever" is a long time ?
17:10 <Soul_keeper> sometimes java bugs go away with a particular app if i juggle java versions
17:11 <PovAddict> well written java apps shouldn't work bad with specific java versions
17:12 <Soul_keeper> well, good people shouldn't die either
17:14 <PovAddict> wtf
17:14 <Soul_keeper> hahaha
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17:20 <CoderForLife> b
17:21 <Romulus> Mow down the street open
17:21 <CoderForLife> Why so serious, Rommie?
17:29 * PovAddict finally found a decent UML tool
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17:34 <xcamel> ip kill >> 188.8.131.52
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18:00 <Rookie_69> Spike is as snafu'ed as usual... GB is playing after GBII.
18:01 <Rookie_69> Sigourney Weaver gets my juices going though.
18:01 <wdsmia> fast forward then play it in backwards
18:02 <wdsmia> BTW: the Ghost did it
18:04 <Rookie_69> Aww :-(
18:04 <Rookie_69> You spoiled it.
18:05 <wdsmia> lol
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18:21 * CoderForLife looks back in
18:21 <CoderForLife> thx for the plink, xcamel
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18:22 <PovAddict> lol he plinked himself
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18:22 <CoderForLife> dagnabbit
18:22 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: plinked yourself?
18:23 <CoderForLife> got bit by the Miranda bug again
18:23 <PovAddict> did you report it already?
18:23 <CoderForLife> was typing a message to you, PovAddict
18:23 <CoderForLife> typed P-o-v-tab
18:23 <CoderForLife> disk goes (scribble-scribble-scribble)
18:23 <CoderForLife> app throws exception
18:24 <CoderForLife> wants to know if I want to debug it
18:24 <Romulus> I did it differently)
18:24 <CoderForLife> anyway.............................
18:24 <CoderForLife> what's your UML app, PovTabAddict?
18:24 <PovAddict> Umbrello
18:25 <CoderForLife> sounds fer-ren
18:25 <PovAddict> Dia was kinda primitive; I tried Kivio and it doesn't even support UML, it only comes with flowchart shapes (but extra shape sets are available for only $5 each! uh huh)
18:26 <CoderForLife> the first time is always free
18:27 <PovAddict> Kivio is open source... just nobody other than the Creator Company seems to bother making good shape sets
18:27 <PovAddict> there were some UML shapes actually, but quite bad...
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18:28 <E-30> hi
18:28 <PovAddict> drop a class into the diagram... and it's actually just a block where you can type a name on top (class name) and a text box below where you type the methods/attributes yourself
18:28 <PovAddict> even Dia had more than that... a dialog with "add method", a list of method arguments, radio buttons for public/protected/private etc. and it did the needed text for you
18:28 <E-30> hey pov
18:29 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: however... Umbrello even supports all of the UML diagrams, not only class diagrams
18:29 <CoderForLife> I was just on the Umbrello site
18:30 <CoderForLife> hey E-30
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18:37 <E-30> how are you doing
18:38 <PovAddict> hey Zeeno
18:38 <PovAddict> and E-30
18:38 <Zeeno> hey
18:38 <CoderForLife> OK I reckon E-30 - how about you
18:38 <CoderForLife> hello Zeeno
18:38 <Zeeno> s'up coder
18:39 <CoderForLife> Codin' =)
18:39 <Zeeno> nice
18:39 <Zeeno> been getting settled into the new house
18:39 <Romulus> you're not logged in, the join thing again
18:39 <Zeeno> finally got my HF gear back on the air today
18:39 <CoderForLife> new houses are nice
18:39 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: good for you... I'm trying to figure out others' code >_<
18:40 <Zeeno> i did that for a living for 2 years
18:40 <Zeeno> not much fun
18:40 <CoderForLife> lower case c, I see
18:40 <PovAddict> lol
18:40 <CoderForLife> Coding, it's a way of Life
18:41 <CoderForLife> and a jail sentence
18:41 <Zeeno> yup
18:41 <PovAddict> ever seen a class with almost a hundred public members? :P
18:41 <Zeeno> that's what i do for a living
18:41 <CoderForLife> bittersweet
18:41 <PovAddict> (conceptually, they're global variables...)
18:44 <Zeeno> nice
18:50 <E-30> not bad
18:50 <E-30> well i am going to see speed racer at 615
18:51 <Zeeno> saw iron man few days ago
18:51 <Zeeno> semi-ok
18:51 <PovAddict> well right now I'm trying to figure out why there is a "workunit" and "result" as separate entities... to me that doesn't make any sense in the client-side
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18:53 <PovAddict> ...I didn't kill them
18:59 <CoderForLife> Umbrello looks good, Pov
18:59 <CoderForLife> where'd they do?
19:02 <KathrynM> moanin
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19:18 * PovAddict plugs a vaccuum cleaner into his computer front fans
19:18 <CoderForLife> hey KathrynM
19:19 <CoderForLife> wb Zeeno
19:19 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife
19:19 <KathrynM> How goes the Coding
19:19 <Zeeno> tnks coder
19:19 <CoderForLife> about to finish loading the database at w@#%
19:20 <Zeeno> what db system do you use?
19:20 <Zeeno> at work
19:20 <CoderForLife> trying to figure out why MySQL can't find my file with the delete SQL statements in it that I want to execute
19:20 <Zeeno> ooops, i mean at w@#%
19:20 <CoderForLife> it found the INFILE file to load the table
19:21 <CoderForLife> the other file is right next to it
19:21 <Zeeno> permissions
19:21 <CoderForLife> Zeeno - we use them all, unfortunately
19:21 <PovAddict> lol
19:21 <Zeeno> :)
19:21 <CoderForLife> yep Zeeno - that's always a problem
19:21 <CoderForLife> but this is Winders
19:22 * PovAddict waits for CoderForLife to quite himself
19:22 <PovAddict> quote, even
19:22 <Zeeno> can still be a problem
19:22 <Zeeno> unless you are on win 98
19:22 <CoderForLife> "Security is rarely convenient"
19:22 <CoderForLife> thx Pov =)
19:23 <CoderForLife> (C) 2002 All Rights Reserved Worldwide
19:23 <CoderForLife> well let's see...
19:25 <CoderForLife> security looks the same - I'll try a full path
19:25 <CoderForLife> yup - it's rockin'
19:26 <CoderForLife> 75,000+ delete SQL statements
19:26 <CoderForLife> delete from inventory where ID=(whatever);
19:26 <CoderForLife> server CPU at 100%
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19:27 <Zeeno> ick
19:28 <PovAddict> are those IDs kinda random?
19:28 <CoderForLife> ripping 75000 duplicate records out of a table containing 1.6M+ records
19:28 <PovAddict> ah
19:28 <CoderForLife> the IDs were sequentially assigned by me
19:28 <CoderForLife> inventory ID numbers
19:28 <PovAddict> the IDs being deleted I mean
19:28 <CoderForLife> done
19:28 <CoderForLife> let's see what's left
19:29 <PovAddict> if they're sequential you could use a single statement ;) WHERE ID > x and ID < y
19:29 <CoderForLife> they are somewhat random
19:29 <CoderForLife> oh no - no that
19:29 <PovAddict> yeah if you're deleting duplicate records I would expect them to be quite scattered
19:29 <CoderForLife> I need to compare files in a sorted list - if the file was scanned and inventoried previously, I want to compare the scan status, and keep the "best" one
19:30 <CoderForLife> they are not duplicate keys
19:30 <CoderForLife> they are unique keys with semi-duplicate contents
19:30 <CoderForLife> may refer to the same file, but different scan events
19:30 <CoderForLife> I had overlapping inventory scans
19:31 <CoderForLife> but I only want the file to appear once in the final database, with the best scan results
19:32 <CoderForLife> SELECT count(ID) FROM inventory
19:32 <CoderForLife> 1563240
19:32 * CoderForLife sits back and smiles
19:32 <wdsmia> Its the weekend and that looks to much like w@#%
19:33 <CoderForLife> SELECT count(ID) FROM inventory where filesuffix='xls'
19:34 <CoderForLife> 347764
19:34 <CoderForLife> that number got everyone talking at w@#%
19:36 <wdsmia> everyone at w@#% looks at my sequential numbers and gets a migrane... I used base 36 lol
19:36 <CoderForLife> 7807 MDB files
19:36 <PovAddict> lol wdsmia
19:37 <PovAddict> D5K = D-hundred-and-fifty-K
19:38 <CoderForLife> well - the database is ready for the great unveiling next Tuesday
19:38 <PovAddict> (= 17048 in base 10)
19:38 <CoderForLife> I'm going to let a few people access it (.htaccess) and use phpMyAdmin to query and report on it
19:39 <CoderForLife> I installed wampserver to make all the plumbing easy under Winduhs
19:40 <PovAddict> hehe... is there any DB engine starting with 'R'?
19:40 <CoderForLife> RDBMS =P
19:41 <PovAddict> that's cheating :P
19:41 <CoderForLife> rulez? what rulez?
19:41 <PovAddict> Windows + Apache + RDBMS + PHP = WARP
19:42 <KathrynM> lol
19:42 <Romulus> time to miss it.
19:42 <PovAddict> is there any programming language starting with K? oh wait, I better don't...
19:42 <CoderForLife> that would be stretching the truth
19:42 <CoderForLife> lol
19:43 <PovAddict> I would need a db engine with 'N' too to make the joke
19:43 * PovAddict hides /o\
19:44 <CoderForLife> I think there's an NSQL
19:44 <PovAddict> BSD, Lighttpd, Oracle, PHP = BLOP?
19:46 <CoderForLife> Linux Apache FOCUS Ruby - LAFR
19:46 * KathrynM examines todo list
19:46 * KathrynM decides to go back to bed
19:46 * KathrynM is lazy
19:46 <CoderForLife> a most excellent plan
19:46 <PovAddict> the todo list won't get any shorter that way
19:46 <CoderForLife> read a book
19:46 <wdsmia> Pov used the "O" word
19:46 <PovAddict> lol
19:47 <CoderForLife> something targets above age 4
19:47 <wdsmia> that could result in a kick ;)
19:47 <PovAddict> wdsmia: w#$% trauma with that word?
19:47 <CoderForLife> targeted
19:47 <KathrynM> awwwwwww... that leaves out "Green Eggs and Ham"
19:49 * wdsmia will ignore it this time just dont use it with the "J" word lol
19:49 <PovAddict> which J? the programming language?
19:50 <wdsmia> yup
19:50 <CoderForLife> Jovial
19:50 <wdsmia> lol
19:50 <PovAddict> 'nuther w#$& trauma?
19:50 <KathrynM> when is w*@& not traumatizing?
19:51 <wdsmia> on your day off
19:51 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you aren't helping... remember I start w$%& "soon"
19:51 <PovAddict> :P
19:51 <KathrynM> 5:00 on a Friday afternoon
19:51 <KathrynM> :)
19:51 <CoderForLife> when you inoculate yourself by w@#%ing all the time
19:51 <KathrynM> I aim to be helpful
19:52 <KathrynM> at least computers don't puke on you or pee their pants or hit you
19:52 <PovAddict> LOL
19:52 <KathrynM> co-w&^% got slugged trying to break up a fight
19:52 <wdsmia> thats what end users are for
19:52 <KathrynM> lol
19:52 * CoderForLife inspects his pants legs next to his CPU
19:52 <CoderForLife> um...
19:52 * KathrynM hopes CoderForLife doens't have a bladder problem
19:53 <PovAddict> wdsmia: http://www.flickr.com/photos/osilla/80500328/sizes/o/
19:53 <Romulus> Title: Flickr Photo Download: project (at www.flickr.com)
19:53 <CoderForLife> Miranda has been puking on me lately
19:53 <KathrynM> love that PovAddict
19:54 * CoderForLife enjoys the moment by picking up the accumulated post-it notes on his desk
19:54 <wdsmia> good one pov
19:55 * KathrynM crawls back into bed... todo list can wait for a few hours
19:55 * KathrynM is still away
19:55 <CoderForLife> never todo today what you can dodo tomorrow
19:57 * CoderForLife smiles - completing a project is a self-actualization moment for a Coder
19:57 <wdsmia> todo list isnt that what you use to clean up spilled coffee on you desk
19:57 <wdsmia> ...your...
19:58 <CoderForLife> a todo list is where you record what you actually did by writing on the list, and then immediately crossing it off
19:58 <CoderForLife> it has nothing "todo" with intentions
20:00 <PovAddict> lol
20:00 <wdsmia> so thats what I have been doing wrong for years
20:00 <PovAddict> that's the good thing digital todo lists have...
20:00 <PovAddict> you can completely delete items, not only cross them off
20:00 <PovAddict> I delete them when I finish them, or when I decide I won't do them anytime soon
20:01 <wdsmia> your suppost to wright them down?
20:02 <CoderForLife> that's only to fool yourself into thinking that you're accomplishing anything at all
20:03 <CoderForLife> I find it more satisfying to maintain a "todont" list
20:03 <PovAddict> :)
20:04 <CoderForLife> I manage to get to most items each day
20:04 <wdsmia> lol
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20:06 <Pyroraptor> hi, I'm running boinc on linux from commandline, how can I pause it?
20:06 <Pyroraptor> I can't find it anywhere in the wiki
20:07 <PovAddict> &bw BoincCmd
20:07 <PovAddict> specifically, you want --set_run_mode
20:07 <Pyroraptor> oh, it'll ask?
20:08 <PovAddict> "boinc_cmd --set_run_mode never" pauses it
20:08 <PovAddict> "always" (or "auto") instead of "never" resumes it
20:08 <Pyroraptor> great
20:09 <Pyroraptor> it gives me an auto failude, -155
20:09 <Pyroraptor> auth*
20:09 <PovAddict> how did you install BOINC?
20:10 <Pyroraptor> I think I got it via apt-get, it was about a month ago
20:11 <PovAddict> the password is in gui_rpc_auth.cfg
20:11 <PovAddict> /var/lib/gui_rpc_auth.cfg
20:11 <Pyroraptor> and where would I give it my password
20:11 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd --passwd <password> --set_run_mode...
20:12 <Pyroraptor> sorry, I haven't used boinc past setting it up
20:12 <Pyroraptor> hmmm, that file doesn't exist
20:12 <PovAddict> oops
20:12 <PovAddict> /var/lib/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg
20:13 <Pyroraptor> when I access that, it says permission denied, even with sudo
20:14 <PovAddict> even with sudo? how are you trying to read it?
20:14 <Pyroraptor> oh wait, with sudo it shows as blank
20:14 <Pyroraptor> cat and nano
20:14 <PovAddict> (from a normal user you won't be able to read it, that's the idea; what good is a password if anyone can see what it is?)
20:15 <PovAddict> and yeah, should be blank by default; in which case I don't know why it gives auth failure :S
20:15 <PovAddict> &boincerr -155
20:15 <Romulus> PovAddict: authentication error
20:15 <Romulus> are chocolate bunnies that expensive over there?
20:15 <Pyroraptor> hm, bizarro.
20:16 <PovAddict> works for me
20:16 <Pyroraptor> not for me however :P
20:17 <PovAddict> try boinc_cmd --get_project_status
20:17 <Pyroraptor> ooo, another -155
20:18 <PovAddict> ls -l etc/b/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg
20:18 <PovAddict> argh
20:18 <PovAddict> ls -l /etc/boinc-client/gui_rpc_auth.cfg
20:18 <PovAddict> does it show as 1 byte size?
20:19 <Pyroraptor> -rw-r----- 1
20:19 <Pyroraptor> yep
20:22 <Pyroraptor> is there a way I could like, force kill it
20:22 <PovAddict> /etc/init.d/boinc-client stop
20:22 <PovAddict> it will gracefully quit
20:22 <Pyroraptor> yeah, I'll just do that
20:23 <Pyroraptor> curing cancer has been fun and all, but summer is coming fast and I have no air conditioning in my room
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20:23 <PovAddict> as opposed to pausing, which usually keeps applications in memory (helps avoid wasted computation), and still lets the client do network
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20:54 <CoderForLife> little rain shower in the area
20:54 <CoderForLife> off to bed - made great progress today
20:54 <CoderForLife> cya folks
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21:59 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123
21:59 <Tank_Master> &more
21:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 83.7°F / 28.7°C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the 50s. West wind 10 to 15 mph becoming light after midnight.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 80. Light wind...becoming northwest 5 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 50 to 55. (1 more message)
21:59 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph...decreasing overnight.;
21:59 <Romulus> where's my iphone BOINC client? i need help
21:59 <efc> moo
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22:16 * KathrynM is back (gone 10:44:24)
22:16 <Tank_Master> wb
22:16 <KathrynM> thx
22:16 <KathrynM> gonna try to be productive. I've got a pile of thank you notes to write
22:17 <Tank_Master> ahh
22:17 <Tank_Master> sounds fun
22:17 <KathrynM> getting gifts is great. writing thank you notes sucks
22:17 <wdsmia> asks KathrynM to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
22:17 <Tank_Master> haha
22:17 * KathrynM hangs her head in shame
22:18 <wdsmia> another one bites the dust
22:21 <Tank_Master> you have lots of lipstick now
22:21 <Tank_Master> LOL
22:22 <Tank_Master> I read "Andy gave me a parasol" as "Andy gave me a pistal"
22:23 <PovAddict> ......
22:23 <KathrynM> yeah. and like I ever wear makeup
22:23 <KathrynM> LOL TM. I could use a pistal some days
22:23 <PovAddict> KathrynM: well you got just as many chocolate
22:23 <KathrynM> let me tell you. chocolate is a good thing
22:23 <KathrynM> ginsing candy. not so much
22:23 <PovAddict> 'sif I didn't know
22:23 <KathrynM> tastes like dirt
22:23 <PovAddict> lol
22:24 <KathrynM> but "it's good for health"
22:24 <PovAddict> ahh that explains it
22:24 <PovAddict> it's *candy*
22:24 <PovAddict> which is usually bad for health
22:24 <PovAddict> if it's good, it must taste bad to compensate
22:24 <KathrynM> :D
22:24 <PovAddict> I heard something like
22:25 <PovAddict> "all good things are either expensive, high in calories, or cause pregnancy"
22:25 <KathrynM> It's a good thing I wasn't drinking anything right now. Because it would have gotten sprayed all over the computer.
22:26 <PovAddict> lol
22:26 * Tank_Master has never taken or eaten anything that resulted in his own pregnancy
22:26 <Romulus> the compiler doesn't support Latin (Spanish) characters
22:26 * KathrynM hopes Tank_Master never has been pregnant
22:26 <Tank_Master> or ever will be
22:26 <PovAddict> argh laughing my lungs out is painful
22:27 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: men rarely get pregnant y'know
22:27 <Tank_Master> it doesnt hurt as much if you keep the lungs on the inside
22:27 * KathrynM thinks it might do some good if men could get pregnant
22:27 <Tank_Master> you mean it has happened?
22:27 <PovAddict> KathrynM: I remember in some movie
22:27 * Tank_Master doesnt agree
22:28 <PovAddict> woman rushing to the car
22:28 <KathrynM> of course. haven't you ever seen "Junior"
22:28 <PovAddict> to get to the hospital
22:28 <PovAddict> super-stressed-looking man getting into the car
22:28 <PovAddict> stressed from having to cope with pregnant wife
22:28 <PovAddict> and a neighbor saying "you better hurry before one of you has the baby"
22:28 <Tank_Master> yes, thats the worst part
22:29 <Tank_Master> haveing to cope with "them" being pregnant
22:29 * KathrynM thinks Tank_Master should quit while he's ahead
22:29 <Tank_Master> LOL
22:29 <Tank_Master> hey, at lest your body puts out chemicals that help make you forget the hole ordeal
22:30 * KathrynM wouldn't know
22:30 <Tank_Master> we dont
22:30 * KathrynM will never know
22:30 <Tank_Master> never?
22:30 <KathrynM> never
22:30 <KathrynM> can you imagine me as a mother?
22:31 <Tank_Master> yes
22:31 <KathrynM> best part of being a teacher is sending the kids home at the end of the day
22:31 <Tank_Master> as long as your kids dont give you a pistol, the will be fine
22:31 <Tank_Master> they*
22:31 <KathrynM> lol
22:32 <Romulus> meaning there a way to spend some time..
22:32 * KathrynM decides to put her vitamin c candy away before she chokes
22:32 <PovAddict> you'd do well as a mother
22:32 <PovAddict> ...some fraction of the time at least
22:32 <KathrynM> < 1%
22:33 <PovAddict> nah I think probably more
22:33 <PovAddict> but anyway
22:33 <PovAddict> can't be done
22:33 <Tank_Master> 1.01%
22:33 <PovAddict> there's no part-time choice for the "mom" job
22:33 <KathrynM> which is why the teacher job is perfect
22:33 <PovAddict> lol
22:33 <Tank_Master> its called "your going to grandma's"
22:34 <KathrynM> :D
22:38 * KathrynM takes a scrabble break
22:38 <Tank_Master> quiet now
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22:58 <KathrynM> hiya jackygrahamez_
23:08 <efc> moo
23:09 <KathrynM> oink
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