IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-05-20

00:00 <efc> good for my someday-home control computer

00:00 <Tank_Master> or a DVR type PC

00:02 <efc> kinda unrelated, but I cought get a Radeon 9250 256 mb PCI version for $33.. might be neat toy to stick in an old system and see how it does

00:03 <efc> Suprised they even make a card that fast for PCI

00:03 <Tank_Master> :)

00:04 <efc> would try in old pentium 200 hehe

00:05 <Tank_Master> that wouldnt be able to feed the GPU fast enough

00:10 <efc> Of course

00:10 <efc> wouldn't expect to play Crysis on a p200 in any case

00:11 <efc> they make some DX10 cards for PCI too

00:11 <Tank_Master> :)

00:16 <efc> I guess maybe people get them so they can have 10 monitors on a PC

00:16 <Tank_Master> possably

00:16 <Tank_Master> thats the only reason I can think of

00:17 <efc> Radeon 1550 faster PCI card I see

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03:25 <efc> can get that board for $80 in the US

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04:04 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:04 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 51.9F / 11.1C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent (1 more message)

04:04 <CoderForLife> &more

04:04 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of showers. Highs in the lower 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;

04:11 <CoderForLife> incredibly nice APOD

04:11 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at

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04:24 * CoderForLife looks out the window into the darkness

04:25 <CoderForLife> man, a large tree just fell somewhere - not too close, not oo far away

04:25 <CoderForLife> too*

04:48 <CoderForLife> yeow - another tree, or a continuation of the same one

04:49 <CoderForLife> sounded about the same

04:52 <CoderForLife> &help

04:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

04:53 <efc> MOO

04:53 <CoderForLife> hello efc

04:53 <efc> &wx 31088

04:53 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 71F / 22C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.73in / 1007hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny in the morning...then partly sunny with a 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Windy. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds 10 to 20 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in (1 more message)

04:58 <CoderForLife> &more efc

04:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the evening...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.;

04:58 <efc> 5% chance of finding a better career

04:58 <CoderForLife> lol

04:58 <CoderForLife> plink

04:58 <CoderForLife> plink

04:59 <CoderForLife> plink

04:59 <CoderForLife> plink

04:59 <CoderForLife> plink

05:00 <CoderForLife> it seems to be raining hackers....

05:00 <Romulus> I occasionally drop in again soon.. it's kinda late, and been a good evening CoderForLife

05:00 <CoderForLife> ok - byyyyeee Rommie

05:00 <efc> i noticed i was getting some kind of SYN packets on my home router machine

05:00 <efc> makes it lag out, I think

05:00 <CoderForLife> go and SYN no more

05:02 <efc> The wages of SYN is FLOOD

05:03 <CoderForLife> SYN ACK

05:03 <efc> I wouldn't think XP would be vulnerable to an attack that old though

05:04 <CoderForLife> probably has a built-in throttle

05:04 <CoderForLife> can't just ignore SYN

05:05 <efc> It seems to shut down all traffic for 3 or 4 seconds

05:05 <efc> Don't have that problem on this machine (but its not routing)

05:05 <CoderForLife> throttling

05:05 <efc> Maybe I could get one of those Atom boards to play Router

05:06 <CoderForLife> or hits a thread pool limit

05:07 <CoderForLife> oh goody - the Silverlight upgrade is downloaded

05:07 <efc> The atom board I posted links to.. 4 watts for the CPU. but 13 watts for the northbridge alone :p

05:08 <efc> They need some more customized chipsets

05:08 <CoderForLife> lower power would be helpful also

05:09 <efc> well yeah, for the lower power

05:09 <efc> the northbridge is a 130 nm part apparently

05:09 <efc> power sucker pulled off desktops

05:09 <efc> but then, the combo is only $80..

05:10 * CoderForLife does a quick north/south bridge review

05:11 <efc> And although its totally pointless, BOINC and S@H simply must be benchmarked on it..

05:13 <efc> If it maxes out at 4 watts, the flops/watt might still be good

05:13 <CoderForLife> well. Mother Nature wants to see me - I'll guess I'll start getting ready for w@#%

05:13 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:15 <efc> I bet somebody's already benchmarked it

05:17 <efc> 8 watts for dual core

05:23 <efc> "Hundreds of pre-teen overclocking options? Check!"

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06:09 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

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06:40 <hawmps> 'lo

06:43 <hawmps> ip kills >>,

06:58 <BadBarbarian> Mornin

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07:31 <KathrynM> holy crap.  I've got orbit work

07:32 * desti too

07:32 * desti jumps

07:37 <desti> finished

07:38 <KathrynM> mine has about 5 more minutes or so

07:40 <KathrynM> lol 71 hour initial estimate

07:41 <KathrynM> 11 minute run time

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09:10 <desti>

09:10 <Romulus> Title: CUDA Coding Contest - NVIDIA (at

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09:20 <Tank_Master> orbit work?!?

09:22 <KathrynM> yup

09:22 <Tank_Master> none left now

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09:35 <Tank_Master> I love the first rains after a long streak of hot days

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14:01 <Didactylos_> The best description of BOINC I have ever seen!

14:02 <Didactylos_> "overdesigned,

14:02 <Didactylos_> academic stuff you find in what passes for "grid

14:02 <Didactylos_> computing" (i.e. a lot of compsci handwringing which

14:02 <Didactylos_> ultimately has led to a kludgy system)."

14:02 <Romulus> i did as both win32 and x86

14:10 <PovAddict> heh

14:10 <PovAddict> then maybe Carl's message backfired? :P

14:10 <Didactylos_> Who knows.

14:11 <Didactylos_> Ever since Carl got stupidly mad at me for suggesting that maybe checkin_notes isn't the greatest way to track changes, I've pretty much ignored him.

14:13 <PovAddict> :D

14:15 <PovAddict> I kind of agree with him... I haven't seen other commercial grids, seems quite possible that BOINC is "the worst grid system, with the exception of all the rest"

14:15 <PovAddict> but that's no excuse to leave ugly interfaces "just because the others are worst anyway"

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14:42 <jackygrahamez> hi

14:43 <jackygrahamez> I may be asking a ridiculous question, is there a place I can get uppercase binaries?

14:44 <jackygrahamez> I just want to have a small application so everyone gets reattached

14:44 <jackygrahamez> I got the linux one running

14:45 <jackygrahamez> If I use my standard set of applications, there is a great deal of overhead

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14:57 <jackygrahamez> hi yoyo

14:58 <yoyo[RKN]> hi

14:58 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to rebuild my project

14:59 <jackygrahamez> I have my database and project directories, but the key is out of wack

15:00 <jackygrahamez> So instead of given everyone my applications with their new signatures which will download with errors, I'm going to distribute uppercase

15:01 <jackygrahamez> But I'm having trouble building uppercase, does it work with studio 2008?

15:01 <jackygrahamez> or can I snag it from someone?

15:05 <Tank_Master> hey

15:05 <Tank_Master> what r u trying to snag? VS2008?

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15:12 <jackygrahamez> Well I'm trying to get binaries for Windows, PPC and MacIntel, I just tried compling on VS C++ Express 2008 and it did not work...any short-cut I can take to get these UC binaries?

15:12 <yoyo[RKN]> do you want uppercase binaries?

15:12 <jackygrahamez> This is my punishment for putting too much faith in snapshots

15:13 <jackygrahamez> yes

15:14 <yoyo[RKN]> I have some for win/mac-ppc/mac-intel/linux

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15:17 <jackygrahamez> <yoyo[RKN]>: could I have those?

15:18 <yoyo[RKN]> I just compose the collection, just some seconds

15:19 <yoyo[RKN]>

15:19 <Romulus> <> (at

15:24 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez:  type in y and press the tab to finish the name

15:25 <yoyo[RKN]> ui Tank_Master is here

15:25 * yoyo[RKN] should go to bed

15:26 <Tank_Master> lol

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15:30 <jackygrahamez> thanks yoyo

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16:05 <pidus_> is there anybody here who is ever there in #boinc_dev

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16:27 <jackygrahamez> <(

16:27 <jackygrahamez> :'(

16:30 <xcamel> 'lo

16:39 <jackygrahamez> :-d

16:39 <jackygrahamez> What's this?

16:39 <jackygrahamez> 5/20/2008 4:39:21 PM|Hydrogen@Home|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected.  Please check your settings on the web site.

16:39 <jackygrahamez> 5/20/2008 4:39:21 PM|Hydrogen@Home|Message from server: No work available for the applications you have selected.  Please check your settings on the web site.

16:40 <Tank_Master> sounds like you need to select the right apps

16:42 <CoderForLife> evening

16:42 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 63.5F / 17.5C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 1.7mph / 2.7km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers this evening. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. ; Wednesday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers. Highs in the mid 60s. West (1 more message)

16:42 <CoderForLife> &more

16:42 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. ; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s. West winds 10 to 15 mph...decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight. ;

16:42 <xcamel> did get warmer today..

16:42 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

16:42 <Tank_Master> &more

16:42 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

16:42 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 59.9F / 15.5C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers. Highs around 60. Light wind becoming west 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon. ; Tonight - Showers likely. Lows in the mid and upper 40s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph. ; Wednesday - Mostly cloudy with (1 more message)

16:42 <Tank_Master> &more

16:42 <Romulus> Tank_Master: a chance of showers. Highs around 60. West wind 5 to 10 mph. ;

16:42 <CoderForLife> overcast here this afternoon

16:43 <CoderForLife> hope my civil engineer shows up tomorrow

16:43 <CoderForLife> It rained like the Dickens last night

16:44 <CoderForLife> din-din time, then I guess I need to take Mom's PC back so she can do e-mail

16:44 <Tank_Master> hf

16:44 <Tank_Master> rained good here this morning to

16:45 <xcamel> no rain today - not yet anyway...

16:45 <jackygrahamez> how do I  select the right app

16:45 <jackygrahamez> ?

16:46 <Tank_Master> normally its in the project preferences in your account on the project website

16:46 <Tank_Master> but as you are developing, I dont know

16:47 <xcamel> laugh of the day...

16:47 <CoderForLife> din-din time

16:47 <CoderForLife> bbiab

16:47 <xcamel>;_ylt=Amt7dpiw6HLUQCDTb8zlslME1vAI

16:47 <Romulus> <> (at

16:49 <jackygrahamez> Under computing preferences?

16:49 <jackygrahamez> I'm a bit lost

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16:58 <Tank_Master> doh

16:58 <Tank_Master> the WU I got from orbit just crashed :P

16:59 <Tank_Master> had a pop-up to "SurveySimulator_1.22_windows_intelx86.exe stopped working and was closed"

17:01 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: don't let your users waste too much time uppercasing texts!

17:09 <jackygrahamez> It looks like they are taking the uppercase app. I'm just trying to figure out the best way to wean people onto this new key. Had I followed the procedure properly the first time and had my snapshot been kosher, I would not be up to my neck

17:10 <PovAddict> I think resetting the project forces the client to forget the key

17:11 <PovAddict> if not, detaching and reattaching *definitely* will

17:11 <jackygrahamez> I'm instituting a quota of 10 workunits for the time being

17:12 <jackygrahamez> That ought to keep them from burning useless cycles right?

17:12 <PovAddict> yeah

17:12 <PovAddict> how long are WUs?

17:13 <yoyo[RKN]> uppercase runs usual 10seconds

17:13 <jackygrahamez> oh simple uppercase <10seconds

17:13 <yoyo[RKN]> but you can call it with a command line option to run longer

17:14 <jackygrahamez> Just a pain when you do something requiring human intervention

17:14 <jackygrahamez> I am at about 1k users

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17:15 <jackygrahamez> I should probably disable account creation for the time being until I really got my project in position to get funding

17:15 <yoyo[RKN]> I used this wu template for uppercase:

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17:16 <jackygrahamez> Thanks, I'm just using the sample_workunit_generator

17:22 <jackygrahamez> Then there is this problem I have with the forums. I think there must be bad data

17:22 <jackygrahamez> It only generates 2 threads per category

17:23 <jackygrahamez> maybe I should try updating my database?

17:23 <PovAddict> REPAIR TABLE thread;

17:24 <jackygrahamez> didn't do anything

17:24 <jackygrahamez>

17:25 <Romulus> Title: Message boards : Number crunching (at

17:25 <jackygrahamez> I restored everything from a dump previously

17:25 <PovAddict> oh that looks like other trouble

17:25 <PovAddict> is display_errors turned on in PHP?

17:25 <Romulus> where "scattered in your name? (or what ever happened to end up crashing machine mostly

17:26 <jackygrahamez> no

17:26 <jackygrahamez> I did a little bit of that yesterday

17:26 <jackygrahamez> I had three errors

17:26 <jackygrahamez> constantly repeating

17:26 <jackygrahamez> give me a second

17:31 <CoderForLife> off to Mom's with her PC - just vacuumed 1/4" thick mat of dust off the front inside air intake

17:31 <CoderForLife> laterz

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17:32 * Ageless93 peeks in here... TV is giving snow only anyway. cable disconnected. :(

17:34 <jackygrahamez> It looks like some permissions issue, hi Ageless, long time no speak!

17:34 <Ageless93> hey Jack

17:35 <jackygrahamez> Did you get that job you were gaming for?

17:35 <Ageless93> I don't have this thing on so much anymore. Job? Job? um ... haven't heard from them in a long time

17:36 <jackygrahamez> oh

17:36 <jackygrahamez> what have you been doing?

17:37 <Ageless93> writing FAQs, having a fever, stomach aches, being a nuisance, testing some stuff. In no particular order ;)

17:37 <jackygrahamez> sorry to hear

17:38 <Ageless93> anyone else seeing a ghost post here?

17:38 <Romulus> <> (at

17:38 <Ageless93> Richard's thread shows a post. I don't see it... and I see everything. ;)

17:40 <jackygrahamez> Not sure why this problem persists, could I be missing some php library?

17:40 <Ageless93> what have you done this time, Jack?

17:40 <jackygrahamez> oh my

17:40 <jackygrahamez> I really did it this time

17:40 <Romulus> "I just can't do it about 4 hours of sleep. I was gone from about 6:30PM to 2:30AM.

17:40 <Ageless93> and is there anyone else here, but for us?

17:41 <Ageless93> and him

17:41 <jackygrahamez> David Anderson is going to round up a motorcylce pack and run me out of town

17:42 <Ageless93> he doesn't need to do that. he can use my Black Ops Ninja Squads one to fourteen for that.

17:44 <jackygrahamez> have you taken a look at this?

17:44 <Romulus> <> (at

17:45 <jackygrahamez> I'm esentially rebuilding the project in the aftermath of my key debachle and a corrupt snapshot that would not restore

17:45 <KathrynM> whoa.  that thread is weird jord

17:45 <KathrynM> gremlins in the db?

17:45 <Ageless93> Ghost posts, Kath... new thing after Ghost Wus.

17:45 <KathrynM> but but but... Halloween is for months yet

17:46 <Ageless93> well Jack, I see you fscked up again ;)

17:46 * KathrynM really needs some sleep

17:46 <jackygrahamez> I should put that on my Facebook profile

17:47 <xcamel> lol

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17:50 <KathrynM> jackygrahamez, just remember

17:50 <KathrynM> In Windows, if it doesn't work - reinstall.

17:50 <KathrynM> In Unix, if it doesn't work - investigate why (and profit from the pain) :-).

17:50 <xcamel>

17:50 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 May 20 - The Perseus Cluster of Galaxies (at

17:50 <xcamel> really nice..

17:51 * KathrynM goes baack to bed for an hour

17:51 <Ageless93> before she steals more things from Gary...

17:51 <jackygrahamez> maybe I'm missing pear

17:51 <Ageless93> pear or peer?

17:51 <Ageless93> bear or beer?

17:52 <PovAddict> maybe somebody moved a post into and out of that thread

17:52 <jackygrahamez> hey don't even think the later

17:52 <Ageless93> then we would have a message about that in email, Nick.

17:52 <jackygrahamez> now who would do a thing like that...woops

17:52 <PovAddict> ah true

17:53 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: BOINC doesn't use Pear stuff

17:53 <Ageless93> and I didn't see an Apache message. Which doesn't say much, that may be broken again.

17:53 <Ageless93> goes testing.

17:53 <jackygrahamez> ok

17:54 <jackygrahamez> I thought this message said it was missing include_path='.:/usr/share/pear:/usr/share/php

17:54 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: just copy boinc/html/project.sample/ (ie. from BOINC source) into projects/hydrogen/html/project/ (ie. your project)

17:54 <PovAddict> paths may be wrong - I haven't been around in your server :P

17:54 <Ageless93> Apache works

17:57 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: the problem was related to because the second thread in that category is from Ageless93

17:57 <PovAddict> who has donated to your project

17:57 <PovAddict> so the whole thing exploded while trying to add the crown :)

17:57 <jackygrahamez> ahh

17:58 <jackygrahamez> it worked!

17:59 <jackygrahamez> This is very illuminating

18:00 <jackygrahamez> Like I tell anyone, I learn much more from breaking stuff

18:00 <PovAddict> also, your project has a security bug in the web code; see "[boinc_projects] security vulnerability update"

18:01 <jackygrahamez> is that the cross project scripting thing?

18:02 <Ageless93> so I broke the project again? Wow

18:02 <Tank_Master> congratz

18:02 <Ageless93> goes checking how to lose that crown. before I do it again. ;)

18:03 <jackygrahamez> Thats what you get for donating

18:03 <Ageless93> I see you disabled the friends list

18:03 <jackygrahamez> not intentionally

18:03 <Ageless93> or it is disabled by default

18:04 <Ageless93> Notice: Undefined property: BoincUser::$prefs in /home/boincadm/projects/hydrogen/html/inc/ on line 658

18:04 <Ageless93> Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /home/boincadm/projects/hydrogen/html/inc/ on line 658

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18:28 <xcamel> back again

18:29 <Ageless93> I don't know;

18:29 <Ageless93> see if you  reproduce this behavior

18:29 <Ageless93> that was the answer I got from david on the Ghost posts

18:29 <Ageless93> so go on everyone, reproduce a ghost post!

18:29 <jackygrahamez> ah so I'm going home. Thanks for the help Povaddict

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18:37 <Ageless93> off to bed. laters all.

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18:51 <xcamel> poof

18:55 <Tank_Master> zzzt

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19:30 <Tank_Master> wb

19:31 <KathrynM> thx

19:32 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:32 <KathrynM> mornin

19:33 <xcamel> prepping for your standup gig with the crumb crunchers...

19:33 <KathrynM> would rather be drowning in the Tae Wha River right now

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19:37 <Tank_Master> so, how are the germ transports doing these days?

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19:38 <Tank_Master> wn jackygrahamez_

19:38 <xcamel> 'lo Doug's brother.. (??)

19:38 <Tank_Master> mb*

19:38 <wineguy> 'lo there

19:38 <Tank_Master> wb***

19:38 <KathrynM> spreading their germs quite effetively

19:38 <Tank_Master> good to hear

19:38 <xcamel> and Ed, and Doug hizownself

19:39 <efc> Moo

19:39 <wineguy> missed you guys, have I missed anything?

19:40 <wineguy> guess not

19:40 <Tank_Master> not really

19:40 <xcamel> not too much, other than the 6.2's seem to be working well now...

19:40 <Tank_Master> jackygrahamez is having a fun time getting his project to work the way he wants

19:40 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:40 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 68.5F / 20.3C | Humidity: 33% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 40s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening. ; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. High around 70. North wind around 5 mph. ; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance (1 more message)

19:40 <wdsmia> &more

19:40 <Romulus> wdsmia: of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Low around 50. East wind near 10 mph. ;

19:40 <wineguy> who cares about Des Moines?

19:41 <xcamel> Doug does..

19:41 <wineguy> why

19:41 <xcamel> sucks to be ted kennedy, eh?

19:41 <wdsmia> asks xcamel to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

19:42 * Tank_Master slaps wdsmia around a bit with a large trout

19:42 <wdsmia> &insult Tank_Master

19:42 <Romulus> Tank_Master - You are nothing but a craven coagulation of warped buzzard.

19:42 <Tank_Master> lol

19:42 <xcamel> close enough

19:42 <efc> Have to feel sorry for him but.. You also have to wonder how long his tumor has been making speaches in the Senate

19:42 <Tank_Master> again, with the buzzard!

19:42 <xcamel> line of the day:

19:43 <Tank_Master> &insult wdsmia

19:43 <Romulus> wdsmia - You are nothing but a hugger-muggered half-mouthful of clapper-clawed IE.

19:43 <KathrynM> wait wait... fill me in on the news

19:43 <xcamel> "I wouldn't wish cancer on any man, but I really wouldn't Ted Kennedy on any unwitting electorate"

19:43 <Tank_Master> some demicrat has a brain tumer

19:44 <KathrynM> oh

19:44 <PovAddict> lol @ "You also have to wonder how long his tumor has been making speaches in the Senate"

19:44 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:44 <xcamel> as long as his liver has...

19:44 <KathrynM> what's the rest of the senate's excuse?

19:44 <Tank_Master> ouch ;)

19:44 <xcamel> blatant stupidity..

19:45 <wineguy> IQ's less than 50

19:45 <Tank_Master> and greed

19:45 <wineguy> but lots of money

19:45 <PovAddict> Tank_Master++

19:45 <xcamel> and sheets byrd blubbering on the senate floor...

19:45 <xcamel> he is completely senile.

19:46 <wineguy> interesting that an ex-kkk'er backs Obama

19:46 <efc> At least if they stay in, they aren't drawing that fat retirement

19:46 <xcamel> yeah, wg... go figure...

19:46 <wineguy> just salary and a large expense account

19:47 <Tank_Master> obama is a socialest, so of corce a KKK member will back him

19:47 <efc> nice, property taxes going up 88% where we used to have a place

19:50 <wineguy> where don't I want to move to?

19:50 <xcamel> just wait for the power vacuum in DC with byrd and TK gone..

19:50 <efc> rabun county, georgia

19:50 <wineguy> why such a jump?

19:51 <efc> State thought it was undervalued

19:52 <efc> Hey PovAddict, got any Intel Atom results in the big result DB?

19:52 <PovAddict> efc: uh, no idea

19:52 <PovAddict> will take a while

19:52 <xcamel> obama wants change - all of it - including the large bills - from you...

19:52 <PovAddict> I changed *operating systems* since I last used that DB

19:52 <Romulus> finds she is sorely missed here

19:52 <efc> Ah hehe. I didn't know how to look myself.

19:53 <efc> Something probably does have to change, or we're going to go bankrupt. More tax, less spend, or some of both.

19:53 <xcamel> cut spending first

19:53 <xcamel> fire 50% of the government

19:54 <efc> Iraq, a couple hundred billion a year, exists outside of the normal budget, hasn't been helping at all

19:54 <PovAddict> efc: doing case-insensitive search for the word "atom" in host.xml

19:54 <PovAddict> taking a while

19:54 <wineguy> Cant fire the govt people - they would all go on wellfare

19:54 <efc> Pov: I dont think its officially released yet but these things have a habit of leaking out early..

19:55 <xcamel> dems have spent more on pork in one year than the war has cost in the last 5

19:55 <PovAddict> oh then I should probably download latest instead of using last month's dump

19:55 <PovAddict> (which is the newest I already have)

19:55 <efc> Don't make a big effort, i was just wondering..

19:55 <efc> I'm sure they aren't that fast but it has to be asked :)

19:56 <efc> The pork, the war, and quite a bit more all has to go

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19:57 <wineguy> good idea, just don't hold your breath

19:57 <efc> And if there's a (rec/depr)ession the revenue will be way down, and it will get worse

19:57 <efc> I really need to start buying gold..

19:57 <wineguy> too late

19:57 <xcamel> waaaay too late

19:57 <wineguy> better buy food

19:58 <efc> I knew I should have bought at $500

19:58 <xcamel> buy seed and store it..

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19:58 <efc> But then you don't really buy it to make money, you buy it to NOT lose 100% of your money

19:59 <wineguy> just buy gas and store it.

19:59 <efc> its only good for 6 months unless you add stabalizer, diesel is better

20:00 <efc> natural gas/propane almost indefinite

20:00 <xcamel> red fuel is cheaper

20:00 <wineguy> Diesel out here is $4.93 a gal

20:00 <wineguy> gas is only $3.89

20:00 <Romulus> Oh, you mean with "we"

20:00 <Tank_Master> desil is $4:35 here

20:00 <efc> Gas that kills your car might as well be $0 (well you can still burn evidence with it)

20:01 <wineguy> let's hear it for plug-in electrics!

20:01 * Tank_Master hears silence

20:02 <wineguy> that went over like a lead balloon

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20:03 <efc> Being able to buy them reasonably would help

20:03 <xcamel> laws are already drafted to take the equal amount in gas taxes out of your electric bill...

20:04 <wineguy> I thought I was a cynic

20:04 <xcamel> it's the truth.

20:04 <xcamel> no way in hell the gubberment is going to give up that windfall

20:05 <wineguy> Oregon has added road taxes for hybrids

20:05 <xcamel> bingo.

20:05 <efc> Maybe they can add dye to the electricity

20:06 <efc> You can't use red-dyed "offroad" kilowatt-hours

20:06 <xcamel> lol

20:06 <wineguy> don't give them any ideas

20:06 <xcamel> it's all thought out already...

20:06 <wineguy> of course I would like the contract to find out how to do it!

20:07 <xcamel> personal windmill power...

20:07 <xcamel> only about 2 mil each

20:08 <wineguy> cheap at half the price

20:08 <efc> I should have been a chemist, then I'd be working on my photo-methane

20:09 <wineguy> can llamas pull h3's

20:10 <wineguy> just feed my brother beans and you get all the methane you can use

20:10 <wdsmia> :P

20:10 <Romulus> says rimshot

20:10 <Tank_Master> hehe

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20:10 <Tank_Master> wb jackygrahamez

20:11 <xcamel> wonder what teddy is thinking about socialized medicine now...

20:13 <jackygrahamez_> anyone there?

20:13 <Tank_Master> no

20:13 <xcamel> nope

20:13 <Tank_Master> &seen anyone

20:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I have not seen anyone.

20:13 <efc> moo

20:13 <Romulus> dad was late this morning, the deck

20:13 <Romulus> says another rimshot

20:22 <efc> nice lightning attack north of me

20:23 <efc>

20:23 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at

20:23 <efc> shiznit, that is pretty bad

20:25 <xcamel> the backend dp would be a great boinc project..

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20:25 <xcamel> for strikestar..

20:25 <efc> Needs to be low-latency though

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20:26 <xcamel> strike prediction...

20:26 <efc> I suspect that as far as volume of data goes its trivial

20:26 <efc> Oh prediction, good luck with that

20:26 <xcamel> :-)

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20:30 <efc> I don't know how you could do it without some more data

20:39 <PovAddict> efc: back from dinner, latest host stats downloaded meanwhile

20:39 <PovAddict> grepping

20:40 <PovAddict> hmm grep is the bottleneck, not gunzip

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20:44 <PovAddict> efc: no hits

20:44 <PovAddict> just the one: <os_version>2.4.27-atom-rc3</os_version>

20:45 <PovAddict> which is not what you're looking for

20:45 <xcamel> btw - ge 4.3 (beta) is out for non-windows platforms

20:58 <CoderForLife> re-hi

20:59 <CoderForLife> Mom's PC delivered and working

20:59 <CoderForLife> a balazing 36kb modem connection

20:59 <CoderForLife> lol

20:59 <CoderForLife> "blazing"

21:00 <CoderForLife> I'm not retired, so I don't have time for such things

21:01 <CoderForLife> re-bye

21:02 <xcamel> uh, ok

21:03 <CoderForLife> huh?

21:04 <xcamel> thought it was funny...

21:04 <CoderForLife> ah

21:05 <CoderForLife> gn from the place where the leaves fall still attached to the trees

21:08 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:34 <xcamel> &wx 12074

21:34 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 47.4F / 8.6C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.43in / 996.5hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly cloudy this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 40s. West winds around 5 mph. ; Wednesday - Partly sunny in the morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the (1 more message)

21:34 <xcamel> &more

21:34 <Romulus> xcamel: lower 60s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Wednesday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the evening. Lows around 40. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent. ;

21:34 <Romulus> There are some boinc api functions that you shouldn't try to get the compleat story

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21:56 <xcamel> laterz..

22:00 <PovAddict> <KasugaKyousuke> (I like how in the install manual for my graphics card, it specifically tells you to 'just keep clicking until the dialogues go away' lol)

22:03 <Soul_keeper>

22:03 <Romulus> <> (at

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23:05 <efc> &wx 31088

23:05 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 82F / 28C | Humidity: 54% | Pressure: 29.60in / 1002hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Thunderstorm | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. West winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Wednesday - (1 more message)

23:05 <efc> &more

23:05 <Romulus> efc: Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. West winds 5 to 15 mph. ; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds up to 10 mph in the evening becoming light and variable. ; Severe Thunderstorm Watch for Houston County in effect until 3:00 AM EDT on May 21, 2008;

23:08 <efc> right on top of me

23:08 <efc>

23:08 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at

23:08 <Romulus> Error: resipant processing failed

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23:58 <BadBarbarian> Evening Quail

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