IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-05-23

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03:34 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 58.8F / 14.9C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming northeast after midnight. ; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

03:34 <CoderForLife> &more

03:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 30 percent. ; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. ;

03:37 <freelarry> morning

03:38 <freelarry> just home and starting to set up new machine - 500 gig hd going to take a while to format

03:38 <freelarry> &wx 98366

03:38 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 49.6F / 9.8C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.59in / 1001.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s to lower 50s. North wind 5 to 15 mph this evening becoming light. ; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower to mid 60s. Light wind becoming north around (1 more message)

03:38 <freelarry> &more

03:38 <Romulus> freelarry: 10 mph in the afternoon. ; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of evening showers. Lows in the upper 40s and lower 50s. North wind around 10 mph in the evening becoming light. ;

03:41 <freelarry> so second quad should be online sometime today

03:42 <CoderForLife> morning freelarry

03:42 <freelarry> morn CoderForLife

03:42 <CoderForLife> I woke up at 3am

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03:43 <freelarry> 0040 right now here - you up a little to early

03:43 <CoderForLife> got up to work on some of my stuff

03:43 <freelarry> yours or w/*-

03:43 * freelarry forgives slip

03:43 <CoderForLife> this is mine

03:43 <freelarry> ahh fun stuff then

03:44 <CoderForLife> hopefully profitable

03:44 <freelarry> i just shed a little tear for my old scsi ht prescott - hope you get a lot

03:45 <CoderForLife> hey thx =)

03:45 <CoderForLife> I need to put together a sync'd Windows/Linux development environment

03:46 <CoderForLife> planning simulateous s/w upgrades

03:46 <CoderForLife> going to use Subversion as a common ground between the platforms

03:46 <freelarry> setting up xp pro 64 on new quad  -- ohh not sure about that but if you want to try some of my machines for your developement talk to pov about setting up an account on them

03:46 <CoderForLife> one source code for both platforms

03:47 <freelarry> that should be good

03:47 <CoderForLife> maybe at some point - thanks bunches

03:48 <freelarry> just realize i don't have the fastest connection around but not to bad now - went back to high speed cable

03:48 <CoderForLife> overall, I think I'm doing better on cable than I did on ADSL - I think I'll get a bite to eat from the kitchen - brb

03:49 <freelarry> humm may have a problem here - got to 10% format and new machine shut down

03:55 <CoderForLife> back

03:55 <CoderForLife> not good, freelarry

03:56 <CoderForLife> I was donwloading F9 DVD ISO when I went to bed last time, and it had stopped way short - re-downloading now

03:57 <CoderForLife> er last night*

04:00 <CoderForLife> 41% done now - further than last night

04:04 <freelarry> ugg

04:04 <freelarry> don't know what going on yet - seems to not want to load os so checking bios currently

04:05 <freelarry> could be a bad dvd or loose connection - cant get side off to check it tho

04:07 <freelarry> humm just shutting down by itself - hope the heatsink on good

04:09 <CoderForLife> interesting http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

04:09 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

04:10 <CoderForLife> 53% of F9 DVD downloaded

04:12 <freelarry> long dl isn't it

04:16 <freelarry> well restarting format hope it lasts

04:18 <CoderForLife> yeah 3.4GB - 68% done

04:20 <freelarry> ouch

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04:20 <CoderForLife> Fedora 9

04:21 <freelarry> well tore off some access plates and noticed the cpu fan was blocked by a wire so maybe it will continue to run now that i freed it

04:21 <freelarry> sounds quiter

04:23 <CoderForLife> ah would be a significant problem

04:23 <freelarry> yeah and couldn't get side plate off to see what happened during transport

04:23 <freelarry> took off front and then th drive access plates to reach in

04:24 <CoderForLife> major surgery

04:24 <freelarry> cosmetic only - ps exhasut cooler now too

04:25 <Romulus> what do you think it's a wash.

04:25 <freelarry> format now at 2%

04:25 <freelarry> your dl probable will finish before the format does

04:26 <freelarry> 1% every 1.5 to 2 minutes

04:26 <CoderForLife> 84%

04:27 <freelarry> 4%

04:27 <freelarry> ;P

04:27 <CoderForLife> a-yuppa

04:28 <freelarry> loks like the powr cable for back fan had drooped into the cpu fan so should go well now - will wait till past the 10% point befoe leaving tho

04:30 <freelarry> oh yeah - lootss less heat now

04:31 <CoderForLife> excellent

04:31 <CoderForLife> 93%

04:31 * CoderForLife looks for the blank DVD supply

04:33 <freelarry> lol - see two spindles ontop of shelvs here

04:33 <Romulus> you need to add to it

04:33 <CoderForLife> I found the CDs

04:33 <freelarry> 10% so soon can go get some coffee

04:33 <CoderForLife> need the DVDs

04:33 <freelarry> yupper 2 spindles dvd's on shelf and one spindle of cd's

04:34 <freelarry> 11% and coffee time

04:34 <CoderForLife> k

04:34 <CoderForLife> I need more beverage - brb

05:15 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:38:52)

05:16 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

05:16 <KathrynM> evenin CoderForLife

05:24 <CoderForLife> I've been up since 3am

05:24 <KathrynM> you're channeling my insomnia

05:24 <CoderForLife> right now I'm trying to get the SHA1 computed on the F9 DVD ISO I downloaded

05:25 <CoderForLife> Windows is not nearly as SHA1 computational friendly as Linux

05:25 <KathrynM> :)

05:30 <CoderForLife> DVD ISO SHA1 checks out

05:31 <Romulus> At least not with just one sip.

05:31 <CoderForLife> true that, Rommie

05:31 <KathrynM> Rommie is a fountain of wisdom.

05:31 <CoderForLife> net inst ISO also checks

05:32 <CoderForLife> I haven't historically had much luck with CD/DVD-based installs on the target box

05:32 <CoderForLife> I've had the most success with just getting booted, and doing installs over HTTP

05:33 <KathrynM> That's on my list for the weekend.

05:33 <KathrynM> If this damn migraine goes away that is

05:34 <CoderForLife> take 2 ISOs and call me in the morning

05:35 * CoderForLife yawns

05:35 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

05:35 <KathrynM> all hail the weekend

05:35 <CoderForLife> seems like I've been up for hours

05:35 <KathrynM> you have been up for hours

05:35 <CoderForLife> oh, yeah, right

05:35 <CoderForLife> 3 day weekend coming up

05:36 <KathrynM> lucky

05:36 <CoderForLife> great time for Linux installs

05:36 <CoderForLife> project planning

05:36 <CoderForLife> Coding environment upgrades

05:36 <KathrynM> doesn't everyone spend their weekends doing geeky stuff

05:37 <CoderForLife> oh, and family somewhere along the way

05:37 <KathrynM> oh yea.  family

05:37 <CoderForLife> yeah, those hangers-on

05:37 <KathrynM> pains

05:37 <CoderForLife> a needy bunch of people

05:38 <CoderForLife> well, the shower is calling my name

05:38 <KathrynM> laterz

05:39 <CoderForLife> yes, my name is pronounced "FSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"

05:39 <CoderForLife> bbiab - wetter but happier

06:04 <CoderForLife> b

06:05 <KathrynM> squeaky clean?

06:09 * CoderForLife squeaks

06:09 <CoderForLife> appears so

06:09 <CoderForLife> maybe that was a creak...

06:09 <KathrynM> squeak, creak

06:09 <KathrynM> what's the difference :)

06:10 <CoderForLife> opposites directions in entropy

06:11 <CoderForLife> one toward higher order, the other toward more disorder

06:12 <KathrynM> :)

06:12 <CoderForLife> (knee disorder, hip disorder, back disorder)

06:12 <KathrynM> lol

06:12 <CoderForLife> well, time to go W@#% for The Man - make some wall money

06:12 <KathrynM> enjoy (as best you can)

06:13 <CoderForLife> it's Friday so that helps

06:13 <KathrynM> definitely

06:13 <CoderForLife> and we got out for pizza on Friday, so that helps too

06:13 <KathrynM> even more so

06:13 <CoderForLife> man, the sky is rose colored this morning

06:14 <CoderForLife> from purple down to hot pink

06:14 <CoderForLife> spectacular

06:14 <KathrynM> sounds pretty

06:14 <CoderForLife> wonderful

06:14 <CoderForLife> but "red sky at morning..."

06:14 <KathrynM> sailor take warning

06:15 <KathrynM> are you going sailing?

06:15 <CoderForLife> if the hill doesn't stop, I'll be swimming in the creek

06:15 <CoderForLife> does that count?

06:15 <KathrynM> yeah

06:15 <CoderForLife> OK

06:16 <CoderForLife> I'm on the rim and out the door

06:16 <CoderForLife> cya

06:16 <KathrynM> laterz

06:16 * CoderForLife sees he is already "away"

06:16 * CoderForLife makes it so

06:20 <Didactylos> Who maintains the Debian port?

06:22 <KathrynM> Frank Thomas??

06:36 <hawmps> the harbormaster..

06:42 <Didactylos> I think he might have broken SSL again.

06:43 <KathrynM> oh fun

06:43 <Romulus> twiddles her fingers while waiting for train to arrive (on a particularly bad day): http://bp3.blogger.com/_CFhsZt0Romk/R_ECl3nJf-I/AAAAAAAAAhg/Dt-DieHWGoQ/s1600-h/DSC00194.JPG

07:23 <desti> http://www.freerice.com

07:23 <Romulus> Title: FreeRice (at www.freerice.com)

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09:23 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

09:23 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 55.9F / 13.3C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.06in / 984.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs 61 to 66 in the western valleys to 57 to 62 near the foothills. Winds southwest 15 to 20 mph. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent. ; Tonight - Cloudy with (2 more messages)

10:10 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

10:11 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 52.1F / 11.2C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy with a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms. High in the lower 60s. East wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent. ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Low (1 more message)

10:11 <wdsmia_w> &more

10:11 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: in the lower 50s. East wind 10 to 20 mph. ; Saturday - Partly sunny. Warmer. High in the mid 70s. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. ;

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10:37 <PovAddict> rofl

10:37 <PovAddict> in #iphone

10:37 <PovAddict> they made some noob run rm -rf *

10:37 <PovAddict> took them ages to make him do it, it was really dunny

10:38 <PovAddict> ...it was really Funny how in the whole process like 6 people "helped" him, everyone playing along, nobody telling him "no don't do that it will break your phone badly"

10:38 <PovAddict> (helped him run the evil command)

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11:01 * desti awards PovAddict some evil points

11:01 * PovAddict rejects them

11:02 <PovAddict> that was while I sleeped, I was just reading the logs... I couldn't join the fun myself :)

11:02 * Tank_Master steels them

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11:19 <freelarry> &bighello

11:19 <Romulus> Hello Aeternus, benje, bryanUC, Celelaptop, Celelibi, CoderForLife, deprecated, desti, Didactylos, ELGono, freelarry, frost__, hawmps, KathrynM_, Lorvija, MacG_, MTughan, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, redeeman, Romulus, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, thoren, Turf, wdsmia, wdsmia_w, and xcamel

11:20 <Tank_Master> &who cares

11:20 <Romulus> Tank_Master: No users matched cares.

11:20 <freelarry> now if only could train Romulus to install os for me --- sigh

11:20 <redeeman> lol

11:21 * CoderForLife is momentarily awakened at w@#%, then goes back to sleep

11:23 <hawmps> aye.

11:24 * freelarry thnks CoderForLife needs nap as freelarry just woke up

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11:27 * CoderForLife gets ready to go to Friday pizza with the gang

11:28 <CoderForLife> Friday -> Donato's -> Serious Meat pizza

11:28 * CoderForLife catches 2 more minutes of shut eye

11:30 <wdsmia_w> Friday -> El Charro's -> Happy Burritos

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11:33 <jackygrahamez> hi all

11:33 <freelarry> morn jackygrahamez

11:33 <jackygrahamez> does anyone have experience using a hosting providers?

11:34 <jackygrahamez> particularly a VPS

11:34 * freelarry has glazed look in eyes

11:34 <jackygrahamez> I just have a question about what are reasonable expectations

11:36 <jackygrahamez> Reason being this is the second time over the course of a week that a snapshot got corrupted

11:36 <jackygrahamez> So my project is down again

11:37 <freelarry> have no idea jackygrahamez - start of os install here so not at machine - but seems you asking about a virtual private setup i thnk

11:37 <Tank_Master> hey, jack

11:37 <jackygrahamez> They certainly are not meeting MY expectations

11:37 <jackygrahamez> No I'm just asking if I should demand my money back for this month

11:37 <freelarry> suggest contact with provider tech support

11:38 <jackygrahamez> They provide snapshot backups, and that backup is not working twice

11:38 <Tank_Master> any oneline backup service should be good enough to not corrupt your backup

11:38 <Tank_Master> thats the point of a backup, so your information DOESNT get corrupted and lost

11:39 <jackygrahamez> That's what I'm thinking, I contacted them to work on the problem, just wondering if I should get some break for the inconvenience

11:39 <jackygrahamez> I should look over the service agreement closely

11:39 <Tank_Master> ywah

11:39 <Tank_Master> yeah*

11:40 <Tank_Master> so, id this gonna delay when new work will be generated?

11:40 <Tank_Master> is*

11:40 <Tank_Master> :D

11:40 <Tank_Master> &8ball Will jackygrahamez release new work soon?

11:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!

11:40 <jackygrahamez> I'll have to see what they can do, how bad it is

11:41 <Tank_Master> lol

11:41 <Tank_Master> ok

11:42 <jackygrahamez> Maybe I should go on strike for more money

11:42 <Tank_Master> lol

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11:55 * wdsmia_w heads off for Lunch Be Back in about 3 hr's

11:56 <Tank_Master> long lunch break

11:56 <Tank_Master> hope she's worth it ;)

11:56 <jackygrahamez> My provider is troubleshooting the restore

11:56 <Tank_Master> good

11:58 <jackygrahamez> I've been using this service for about a year and it seems like a small shop, probably one person because I'm always emailing the same guy

11:58 <Tank_Master> lol

11:59 <jackygrahamez> If I had the money, I would go for a dedicated server

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12:34 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: what provider is it?

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12:43 <freelarry> oh my finally got the 2 major updates done - now for the 40 others and then the ones after them

12:43 <freelarry> then finally can go looking for the video card driver

12:44 <freelarry> and of course install boinc

12:47 <jackygrahamez> Quantact, I just spoke with the guy and he is going to do some testing and switch me over to a new server

12:47 <Tank_Master> nice

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13:11 <kexman> what good are credits ?

13:19 <desti> credits

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13:25 <PovAddict> kexman: showing you contributed more than... people with less credits than you

13:26 <kexman> aha

13:26 <kexman> nothing more then that  ? :)

13:26 <PovAddict> what do you expect, getting physical prizes? :)

13:26 <PovAddict> who will pay for them? :)

13:27 <PovAddict> most projects are *already* low on money...

13:27 <kexman> aha

13:27 <kexman> what projects would you recommend ?

13:27 <kexman> i am running rosetta@home

13:27 <jackygrahamez> I will bake brownies and ship em ;-)

13:28 <kexman> btw how do you kow the project is "legit" and you are really helping to find cures for cancer

13:28 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: in exchange for crunching Hydrogen@home? :P

13:28 <kexman> and not helping the army to develope high techk millitary stuff

13:28 <PovAddict> kexman: for a project as big and popular as rosetta... if they weren't legit, somebody would have found out already

13:28 <kexman> someone could make a bruteforce for a password and cloack it into a project :)

13:28 <kexman> probably its just my paranoid thinking but still

13:28 <jackygrahamez> any technology can be used for ill purposes

13:29 <kexman> PovAddict: hmm

13:29 <kexman> well

13:29 <PovAddict> bruteforce for a password? somebody could make a *keylogger* and cloak it for a project; you get credits for each banking password they get from you ;)

13:30 <PovAddict> that's why it's a bad idea to join to alpha projects as soon as they appear, like some people do... no idea what could be behind

13:30 <PovAddict> but really, any project that already managed to get listed on a stats site is probably legit

13:31 <PovAddict> and for "big" ones like Rosetta... they have met personally with BOINC developers so...

13:31 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/WorkShop07/Summary

13:31 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5rppw6> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:31 <kexman> PovAddict: probably != legit :)

13:31 <kexman> aha

13:31 <kexman> okay

13:31 <kexman> well but it could be something like i want to crack passwords

13:31 <kexman> i make a project

13:31 <kexman> i give the project hashes and they bruteforce then :)

13:31 <kexman> hehe

13:32 <kexman> well its just my imagination being vivid at this moment :)

13:32 <PovAddict> and wait for the stupid ATAers to join immediately, then bruteforce passwords

13:32 <PovAddict> once you're done with the passwords, you just send a new version of the app... that h4x their computers

13:33 <PovAddict> security discussion from workshop 2006: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ws_06/security.txt

13:34 <kexman> k :)

13:34 <kexman> thanx for the help

13:35 <PovAddict> ah here you go: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php

13:35 <Romulus> Title: Choosing BOINC projects (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:39 <kexman> what's with that ?

13:40 <kexman> all those are legit projects ?

13:40 <kexman> i know seti has been there for a while

13:40 <kexman> did it manage to do anything for the peoples ?

13:40 <PovAddict> all those were "verified" by BOINC developers

13:40 <kexman> anything interesting has "come" out of seti@home ?

13:40 <PovAddict> not that I know of

13:42 <kexman> heh

13:42 <kexman> what about any other ?

13:43 <PovAddict> currently, all "known" projects are "legit"... some are doing useless work, there was one doing controversial work (rainbow tables) but none has ever intentionally damaged users' computers

13:43 <kexman> did any of the grid computing projects gave something to humanity ?

13:43 <PovAddict> hmm not sure

13:43 <kexman> rainbow tables = big fucking legit project :) LOL :)

13:43 <wdsmia> asks kexman to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

13:43 * PovAddict pokes Didactylos

13:43 <Romulus> can anyone look at the "ldb>" prompt now

13:43 <Didactylos> Hi

13:44 <PovAddict> Didactylos: does WCG have some page listing real benefits they have *already* produced with distributed computing?

13:45 <PovAddict> or has nothing come out yet?

13:46 <kexman> im off :)

13:46 <kexman> see ya

13:46 <kexman> ohh

13:46 <kexman> wait i want to see this

13:46 <jackygrahamez> This link presents scientific publications that have resulted from research using BOINC http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Publications_by_BOINC_projects

13:46 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/58y9mb> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:46 <kexman> PovAddict: well im interested if all this calculations are usefull or useless

13:47 <Didactylos> PovAddict: only a few scientific papers, and the Help Defeat Cancer project got the data they needed to go to the next stage.

13:47 <PovAddict> kexman: in some cases it's up to you... is there any "use" in searching for prime numbers?

13:48 <kexman> cool

13:48 <kexman> PovAddict: i dont know

13:48 <kexman> i am not a math guy

13:48 <PovAddict> PrimeGrid is useful in the sense that it's not just burning cycles, or searching for primes that are already known, or using inefficient algorithms; but it's up to you to decide if the whole idea of searching for prime numbers is useful

13:48 <kexman> but for mathematicians there probably is

13:49 <Didactylos> The path from WCG's research to an actual drug is many, many years of expensive work.

13:49 <kexman> wcg = rosetta ?

13:49 <kexman> ahh no

13:49 <PovAddict> no, World Community Grid

13:50 <kexman> you say that one is better then rosetta ?

13:50 <Didactylos> Help Defeat Cancer applies computation directly to diagnosis, so it gets real results much more quickly.

13:50 <PovAddict> which has a lot of sub-projects

13:50 <PovAddict> there are no "better" projects :P they do *different* research

13:50 <kexman> well im willikng to contribute to help cure cancer

13:50 <Didactylos> kexman: World Community Grid actually utilises the software produced by the rosetta project for one of their projects.

13:51 <Didactylos> Human Proteome Folding puts it to practical use.

13:51 <kexman> cool

13:52 <PovAddict> Didactylos: so rosetta workunits are mostly just to develop their software?

13:52 <kexman> well i hope that these computers contributing to these projects will really help

13:53 <PovAddict> I remember once they were calculating some protein structure that was already known, to see if the software calculated it correctly; but I don't know if that's what they always do :P

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13:53 <kexman> PovAddict: research might mean recalculation :)

13:53 <PovAddict> of course

13:53 <kexman> okay i have to split now

13:53 <kexman> see ya later

13:53 <PovAddict> bye

13:53 <kexman> was nice talking to you

13:53 <kexman> byebye

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13:54 <PovAddict> developing the software definitely *is* useful... without those "useless re-calculations" they wouldn't develop the software correctly, and without that WCG HPF couldn't put it to practical use :)

13:55 <PovAddict> I'm just wondering if Rosetta does its own "practical use" too

13:55 <Didactylos> PovAddict: yes and no.

13:55 <Didactylos> Rosetta are more interested in *how* proteins fold.

13:56 <Didactylos> HPF is more interested in folding proteins and looking at what they fold into.

13:56 <Didactylos> So, Rosetta's research has more interest for diseases that involve folding, or folding failure - such as Alzheimer's.

13:56 <PovAddict> hmm... let's take bets, did DA get pissed or not...

13:57 <PovAddict> &8b did DA get pissed

13:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: _I_ don't know.

13:57 <PovAddict> I say yes... *opens message*

13:58 <Didactylos> What did you do now?

13:58 <Didactylos> The security issue?

14:02 <PovAddict> yeah, not so much the security issue but the way I explained it

14:02 <PovAddict> particularly last line on my explanation

14:13 <CoderForLife> security is rarely convenient (tm)

14:14 <freelarry> oh my those updates have been going long - left in the middle of them to doctors and just got back and still on the last install

14:15 <CoderForLife> bragging or complaining?

14:15 <freelarry> both

14:15 <CoderForLife> maybe you just have fast doctors

14:15 <freelarry> was hoping it would be done so could get boinc started

14:16 <freelarry> lol yeah especially when they aren't feeling on top of the world either

14:16 <jackygrahamez> I envision the developments from these projects will synthesize into some powerful technologies

14:16 <CoderForLife> that would have been a satisfying outcome - what have you done to deserve that?

14:17 <jackygrahamez> When used in combination a tool for designing enzymes and a tool for modeling how that enzyme behaves for instance

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14:18 <freelarry> humm looks like conflict between M$ malisious software removal and nv firewall

14:19 <jackygrahamez> I don't know if this is a current problem in science, but it feels like there are not enough researchers who know how to utilizes this technology

14:20 <PovAddict> heh, I knew it!

14:20 <jackygrahamez> The other factor, the people responsible for developing technologies have an interest in monitizing their findings...an open source internet based project does not allow them to keep trade secrets

14:21 <PovAddict> on my post, I said "(why did I bother saying the solution? It will probably get fixed in a day with an ugly hackish workaround anyway...)"

14:21 <PovAddict> and there he goes... kill connection on <unauthorized/>...

14:25 <Didactylos> As the Swedish chef says: fork! fork! fork!

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14:34 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo

14:41 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

14:56 <wdsmia_w> re-hi

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15:39 <PovAddict> Didactylos: hack is implemented

15:40 <Didactylos> Already?!

15:40 <PovAddict> [15282]

15:41 <Didactylos> If he was going to backport it, I would understand and accept it as a necessary evil.

15:41 <Didactylos> Is he?

15:41 <PovAddict> backport to 5.x?

15:42 <PovAddict> he committed in trunk

15:47 <jackygrahamez> My hosting provider is located in Northern California. I wonder if I can get David to kick their shins

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16:01 <Tank_Master> lol

16:02 <freelarry> alright - removed the nv firewall program and now boinc works on new machine

16:03 <freelarry> its starting to crunch 80

16:03 <Tank_Master> a wise man once said: friends dont let friends use sNorton

16:05 <freelarry> yeah

16:06 <freelarry> humm may have a bad stick of memory as keep getting a shutdown for some reason tho -- will keep eye on it for a bit

16:06 <freelarry> if nothing else will run the f8 disk and use memtest

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16:15 <CoderForLife> damn Miranda bug

16:15 <CoderForLife> you're stuck with a stick that won't do the trick, freelarry?

16:15 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:16 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 63.3F / 17.4C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with showers likely. Lows around 50. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent. ; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Northeast winds around 10 mph. ; Saturday Night - Clear. Lows in the (1 more message)

16:16 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

16:16 <Tank_Master> &more

16:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

16:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 55.0F / 12.8C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with rain at times. Highs around 60. West wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon. ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows around (1 more message)

16:16 <Tank_Master> &more

16:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 50. North wind 5 to 10 mph. ; Saturday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and afternoon thunderstorms. Highs around 70. Light wind becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. ;

16:17 <freelarry> possible CoderForLife

16:17 <freelarry> or could be program conflicts also

16:18 <Tank_Master> or pebkac issues

16:18 <PovAddict> loose cable in power button?

16:18 <PovAddict> oshi-

16:18 <PovAddict> my router just fell down

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16:19 <Tank_Master> bummer

16:19 <Tank_Master> KM_!

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16:19 <Tank_Master> DM!

16:19 <CoderForLife> &more

16:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: upper 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. ;

16:20 <KathrynM> moanin

16:20 <KathrynM> Happy Saturday

16:20 * KathrynM is back (gone 07:58:11)

16:20 <PovAddict> early..

16:20 <CoderForLife> Happy Friday evening of a holiday weekend

16:20 <KathrynM> yup

16:20 <KathrynM> just rub it in CoderForLife

16:20 <jackygrahamez> I expect to have it back online sometime in the next 6 hours

16:20 <KathrynM> hiya Jack

16:21 * Tank_Master has no work or kids to deal with for the weekend

16:21 * CoderForLife gets out the rubbing oil

16:21 * freelarry kicks self as forgot to check and save bios last night due to overheating

16:22 <Tank_Master> noob

16:22 <freelarry> lol yupper forgot me head this am

16:22 <freelarry> have you seen it?

16:23 <Tank_Master> no, but I dead hear the cat playing with some marbels earlyer

16:23 <Tank_Master> are those yours to?

16:23 <CoderForLife> I guess you can't see it, as it has your eyes

16:23 <KathrynM> I haven't lost my mind; I have a backup somewhere.

16:23 <Tank_Master> lol

16:23 <Tank_Master> its a corrupt backup

16:24 <Tank_Master> thats how people's minds become corrupt

16:24 <freelarry> not mine Tank_Master - lost all the marbles years ago

16:24 <CoderForLife> any special requests from the grocery store tomorrow morning?

16:24 <Tank_Master> humm, maybe they aer KathrynM's?

16:24 <freelarry> mac an cheese

16:24 <freelarry> hotdogs too

16:25 <Tank_Master> breasts

16:25 * CoderForLife write mac and cheese, tube steaks

16:25 * CoderForLife writes Playboy

16:25 <KathrynM> brownies

16:25 * Tank_Master wonders why CoderForLife wants to play with a boy

16:25 * CoderForLife writes Death By Chocolate

16:25 <KathrynM> :D

16:26 <CoderForLife> that's for you, Tank_Master

16:26 * Tank_Master dont want to boy to play with

16:26 * CoderForLife crosses out Playboy

16:27 <CoderForLife> any other requests?

16:27 <Tank_Master> besides, its not he same to hold a pic as the real thing

16:27 <Tank_Master> snickers

16:27 * CoderForLife writes cold shower for Tank_Master

16:30 <MTughan> This is positively weird...

16:30 <Tank_Master> lol

16:30 <MTughan> Nice place to come in, with CFL picking up a copy of Playboy for you.

16:30 <Tank_Master> hehe

16:31 <CoderForLife> I was trying to be helpful...

16:31 <MTughan> He did ask for breasts.

16:31 <CoderForLife> right

16:31 <jackygrahamez> I live in Washington, DC. How can I help but have a corrupted mind?

16:31 <Tank_Master> but I didnt mean some pathedic picks of desperate wanna-bes

16:32 <CoderForLife> you have corrupt on every corner

16:32 <MTughan> You hang out on #boinc. How can you help but have a corrupted mind?

16:32 <MTughan> :P

16:32 <CoderForLife> er +ion

16:32 * Tank_Master feels sorry for jackygrahamez for having to live in a political seth pool

16:32 <CoderForLife> hey, leave sethy out of it =)

16:33 <Tank_Master> lol

16:33 <CoderForLife> &seen sethy

16:33 <Romulus> CoderForLife: sethy was last seen in #boinc 6 days, 20 hours, 18 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <sethy> also still no reply from jenn ;_l

16:34 <Tank_Master> &seen god

16:34 <Romulus> Tank_Master: god was last seen in #boinc 2 years, 24 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <god> why have you summoned me from my holy grail?

16:34 <DerMeister> lol

16:35 <Tank_Master> &seen satain

16:35 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I have not seen satain.

16:35 <PovAddict> &seen satan

16:35 <Romulus> PovAddict: I have not seen satan.

16:35 <CoderForLife> &seen diablo

16:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: I have not seen diablo.

16:36 <Tank_Master> &seen you

16:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I have not seen you.

16:36 <PovAddict> &seen anyone

16:36 <Romulus> PovAddict: I have not seen anyone.

16:36 <Tank_Master> BUT I AM RIGH T HERE!

16:36 * CoderForLife opens the package of DVD-Rs

16:37 <CoderForLife> this is an official geek weekend

16:37 <CoderForLife> a geekend

16:37 <wdsmia_w> God save us all

16:38 * CoderForLife shuts down boinc very temporarily to give max CPU to DVD burning

16:38 * CoderForLife brings up the Fedora 9 DVD ISO

16:41 * KathrynM tries to get a tad more sleep

16:41 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

16:41 <freelarry> memtest in progress here

16:42 <CoderForLife> hmm Roxio not running

16:44 <CoderForLife> it's... gone...

16:44 <freelarry> ah ha i see after finally figureing out how to get side panel off =- not memory or cpu - vid card cooling fan not running

16:45 <CoderForLife> you certainly are beset by fan problems

16:46 * wdsmia_w takes all his problems and sticks them in a drawer till tuesday

16:47 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-free-software.htm#burncdcc

16:47 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3yy7wv> (at www.terabyteunlimited.com)

16:47 <PovAddict> 200KB program to burn ISOs

16:48 <CoderForLife> looking

16:51 <CoderForLife> looks interesting - I'll give it a try

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16:52 <freelarry> true - after market video cooler - no hookup on vid card for it had to go to mb for connector

16:53 <MTughan> Was it a fanless vid card?

16:54 <freelarry> ati 2600 pro so nope - someone decided to try an aftermarket cooler on it

16:55 <MTughan> I would've thought there would be a fan plug.

16:55 <CoderForLife> ack

16:55 <MTughan> Or was it the wrong type or still had the stock fan?

16:55 <CoderForLife> endless prompting - "please insert a blank disk"

16:55 <jackygrahamez> Just a question is someone using Fedora 9 on their project?

16:55 <MTughan> You have a problem with it?

16:56 <jackygrahamez> no I'm just wondering how it is

16:56 <jackygrahamez> I've been using FC8

16:56 <MTughan> Ah... I've run the Fedora 9 GUI from a Live CD, but I don't run any projects.

16:56 <CoderForLife> no good, PovAddict

16:56 <PovAddict> is the right drive selected? (if you have more than one)

16:56 <jackygrahamez> my provider only offers images but I might be able to convince him to give me a 9 if its worth it

16:56 <MTughan> CoderForLife: I'd tell you to get Linux, but that's what you're trying to do, isn't it?

16:57 <PovAddict> lol

16:57 <PovAddict> install linux so you can burn the linux CD

16:57 <CoderForLife> I am burning the DVD on Windows

16:57 <MTughan> Yeah...

16:57 <CoderForLife> I don't have a DVD burner on a Linux box

16:58 * CoderForLife restarts the pgm

16:58 <MTughan> From a Google search: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm

16:58 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5p2m> (at isorecorder.alexfeinman.com)

16:58 <CoderForLife> well Burn CDCC sux

16:59 * CoderForLife looks at MTughan link

16:59 <jackygrahamez> Yes he could probably provide me with a way to install an iso, but I would only ask if it were worth the effort

16:59 <PovAddict> maybe roxio is still running?

16:59 <MTughan> I haven't tried it, note.

16:59 <jackygrahamez> FC8 was work fine

17:00 <CoderForLife> Roxio's folder disappeared

17:00 <CoderForLife> no shortcuts worked

17:00 <jackygrahamez> Just the provider had some bug when I was doing a snapshot

17:00 <PovAddict> uninstalled itself? :P

17:00 <CoderForLife> ok MTughan, you should feel fully disclaimed

17:00 <MTughan> While leaving shortcuts?

17:00 <CoderForLife> Windows control panel add/remove still thinks it's installed

17:01 <jackygrahamez> The control panel did not handle the job queue properly, so it might have been restarting when it was still making the image

17:01 <jackygrahamez> I'll be quiet

17:01 <MTughan> jackygrahamez: We can continue later.

17:02 <MTughan> Interesting... http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/burn_iso.htm

17:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6elc6t> (at www.fileformat.info)

17:02 * CoderForLife runs ISO Recorder....

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17:04 <CoderForLife> that didn't install right...

17:04 <CoderForLife> no executable in Program Files directory

17:05 <PovAddict> on an unrelated note, I hate programs that install in "Program files"

17:05 * CoderForLife uninstalls ISO Recorder

17:06 <CoderForLife> so noted

17:06 <PovAddict> instead of checking for %PROGRAMFILES% and ending up in "Archivos de programa"

17:06 <CoderForLife> next suggestion?

17:06 <CoderForLife> burn_iso?

17:06 <PovAddict> reboot? ;)

17:07 <PovAddict> </generic_Windoze_suggestion>

17:07 <MTughan> lol\

17:07 <MTughan> Do you still have the Roxio disc?

17:07 <CoderForLife> I'm guessing ISO Recorder doesn't work on XP XP3

17:07 <PovAddict> xervice pack

17:08 <CoderForLife> I was going to go find it, but you all were being do helpful =)

17:08 <CoderForLife> do=so

17:08 <PovAddict> :P

17:08 <MTughan> At this point, I'd go on the hunt.

17:08 <CoderForLife> my PC is sitting here with it's tongue sticking out, with a DVD on it

17:08 <MTughan> Or check other apps here: http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm

17:08 <Romulus> Title: How to successfully burn or write an ISO-image to cd or dvd (at iso.snoekonline.com)

17:09 <MTughan> Oh, one based on SF.net...

17:13 * CoderForLife downloads burn4free

17:15 <xcamel> 'lo Don

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17:15 <xcamel> 'lo BB

17:15 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

17:15 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.6F / 2.0C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 23.36in / 791.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain...snow and isolated thunderstorms. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. Snow level 7000 feet. Near steady temperature in the mid 40s. South winds around 15 mph. ; Tonight - Snow showers...rain showers and isolated (2 more messages)

17:16 <BadBarbarian> 'lo xcamel

17:16 <BadBarbarian> &more

17:16 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: thunderstorms in the evening...snow and rain showers after midnight. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Snow level 7000 feet. Lows 27 to 33. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. ; Saturday - Breezy. Not as cool. Mostly cloudy. Snow and rain showers likely in the morning...a chance of rain and snow showers in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Snow level 6500 feet (1 more message)

17:16 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

17:16 <BadBarbarian> &more

17:16 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: increasing to 7500 feet in the afternoon. Highs 47 to 55. South winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent. ; Snow Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 6:00 AM MST on May 24, 2008;

17:16 <CoderForLife> nope - burn4free wants to install a toolbar in Firefox

17:16 * CoderForLife goes to find his Roxio install CD

17:17 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:22 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

17:22 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

17:22 <wdsmia> TGIF

17:22 <xcamel> TGIMDW

17:22 <jackygrahamez> &wx 86046

17:22 <wdsmia> indeed

17:22 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 37.4F / 3.0C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 23.36in / 791.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain...snow and isolated thunderstorms. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. Snow level 7000 feet. Near steady temperature in the mid 40s. South winds around 15 mph. ; Tonight - Snow showers...rain showers and (2 more messages)

17:23 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011

17:23 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 71.2F / 21.8C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Saturday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. ; Saturday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. ;

17:23 <freelarry> arg - guess i'll try to repair windows

17:26 <freelarry> registry corrupted

17:27 <BadBarbarian> go to the backup reg

17:27 * CoderForLife crosses an elephant and a rhino

17:28 <Romulus> Sorry... what was wrong from you.

17:28 <freelarry> lol it still has the nv firewall in it so nope

17:29 <freelarry> CoderForLife is that a rhinfhant

17:29 <CoderForLife> elephino

17:29 <freelarry> ohh thought it had a sharp trunk

17:30 <CoderForLife> found my HP workstation CDs - no Roxio CD

17:31 <CoderForLife> onto Plan "S" - wait for Stephen to get homw

17:31 <CoderForLife> er home

17:31 <CoderForLife> he'll have some easy answer

17:32 <CoderForLife> or do it on one of his machines

17:33 * CoderForLife waits

17:35 <xcamel> chould have dl'd it to another linux box

17:36 <CoderForLife> no DVD burner there

17:36 <xcamel> pull it and install it temporary...

17:36 <xcamel> "hardswapping"

17:37 <CoderForLife> appreciate the advice - seems like a lot more work

17:37 <CoderForLife> then I have hardware and software problems

17:38 <xcamel> interesting, from the GWN:

17:38 <xcamel> http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tech/science/forest-rings.html

17:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4zu3wy> (at www.cbc.ca)

17:39 <CoderForLife> Occam's Razor would say "UFO's", right??

17:40 <CoderForLife> really, the rings are probably Bush's fault

17:41 <jackygrahamez> he is a great scape goat

17:42 <CoderForLife> he hasn't aided his cause on a few issues

17:44 <jackygrahamez> I just hope he does not try to pull a Julieus Ceasar on us

17:45 <xcamel> the chinese water torture of liberalism...

17:48 <CoderForLife> curious expression - "pull a Julius Caesar"

17:48 <xcamel> I was thinking the same thing..

17:48 <xcamel> Marcus Tulius Cicero

17:49 <jackygrahamez> Use a war to claim imaginary emergency powers

17:50 <xcamel> hardly..

17:50 <CoderForLife> you've been sold some lines...

17:50 <jackygrahamez> Nightmare scenario

17:50 <xcamel> that was clinton's "wag the dog" sthick..

17:50 <CoderForLife> exactly

17:50 <xcamel> while monica was "wagging his dog"

17:51 <CoderForLife> heh

17:52 <jackygrahamez> My ritual of ridding my bicycle by the whitehouse and giving it the finger had a cathartic effect. I feel less anguish than I did 5 years ago moreover 8 years ago when he was selected by the supreme court

17:52 <xcamel> reflag US planes as "NATO", then bomb the s*it out of serbia, then erase all historical records of the war...

17:53 <jackygrahamez> A while ago I had a good impression of the Clintons, recent years I've been forced to re-evaluate

17:54 <CoderForLife> shouldn't have taken that long

17:55 <jackygrahamez> indeed

17:59 <CoderForLife> so - Stephen suggests DeepBurner

17:59 <CoderForLife> looking

18:01 <CoderForLife> running

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18:04 <CoderForLife> it doesn't work either - a Winduhs reboot is in order, per PovAddict's previous sugegstion

18:04 <CoderForLife> suggestion, even

18:06 <CoderForLife> bbiaf, hopefully

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18:11 <freelarry> humm machine going good on reinstall - so something was wrong with the settings after removing nv firewall

18:11 <freelarry> didn't allow a reinstall during the repair phase so hope its good

18:11 <freelarry> if not delete all and new install again

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18:24 <CoderForLife> somethin's awry - I can't get the DVD drive "ready" for any burn s/w

18:30 * freelarry knows the feeling CoderForLife looks like wipe drive and restart here too

18:37 <xcamel> uh..oh

18:38 <xcamel> seems that where the big earthquake hit in china...

18:38 <Romulus> I have 2008 Pro

18:39 <xcamel> was the same area where the chinese were doing extensive nuclear refining, plutonium refining, and research - and one of their big tous is now running out of control..

18:39 <xcamel> er big toys, even.

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18:57 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Temperature: 70.5F / 21.4C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Saturday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. ; Saturday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. ;

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19:01 <CoderForLife> Chinese China Syndrome?

19:02 <CoderForLife> I got up at 3am, so I'm starting to feel a little "tired around the eyes".  I'm going to go see if my F7 box will boot off this F9 install DVD, and call it an early evening.

19:03 <CoderForLife> cya folks soon

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19:05 <xcamel> laterz..

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19:06 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:07 <efc> Hey

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19:15 <efc> Its my Birthday, hurrray

19:17 <PovAddict> happy birthday!

19:17 <xcamel> +happy happy..

19:17 <PovAddict> you ain't tellin' your age I bet? :)

19:18 <efc> 29 :(

19:18 <MTughan> Turning 18 in ~2 months.

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19:18 <PovAddict> KathrynM says she's 29 too, and has been for a couple of years

19:19 <efc> Thats the way to do it

19:19 <efc> Or be born on Feb 29

19:19 <MTughan> lol

19:20 <PovAddict> http://qah.uni-muenster.de/view_profile.php?userid=219

19:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5hxgms> (at qah.uni-muenster.de)

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19:21 <MTughan> lol

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19:26 <xcamel> hmmm.. I've been 29 for 20 years...

19:27 <MTughan> So 49?

19:28 <xcamel> 5th amendment...

19:29 <wdsmia> ditto

19:31 <PovAddict> so we'll tell you "happy half-century" next year? :P

19:31 <KathrynM> I heard that PovAddict

19:31 <PovAddict> KathrynM: so?

19:31 <KathrynM> :)

19:31 <Romulus> too bad for it

19:31 <KathrynM> I no longer age

19:32 <PovAddict> did I say you were...

19:32 <KathrynM> It's all in the kids imagination (especially the kids that call me Old Lady in Korean)

19:32 <PovAddict> lol

19:32 <PovAddict> yah it's all imagination

19:32 <PovAddict> and biological processes

19:32 <PovAddict> *runs*

19:33 * KathrynM throws a large brick at PovAddict

19:34 <xcamel> time and gravity get everybody eventually..

19:38 <MTughan> Oh, anyone know why someone would want a cordless trackball?

19:41 <PovAddict> or an optical keyboard

19:41 <PovAddict> XD

19:41 <PovAddict> "optical and cordless mouse and keyboard" oops

19:41 <MTughan> lol

19:41 <MTughan> Uses optical to see whether a key was pressed.

19:42 <MTughan> Damn, that'd be expensive...

19:43 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projection_keyboard

19:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/yrhzvx> (at en.wikipedia.org)

19:43 <MTughan> Really cheesy thing at my school... Math awards are called the Penrose awards. Usually, they give us a pen and a rose.

19:43 <MTughan> This year, we got a pen, and a box of chocolates called Rosettes. xD

19:43 <Soul_keeper> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/story.aspx?guid=%7B0917C03D%2DAEC6%2D41C8%2DA109%2D3E3C2745DAF9%7D&siteid=rss

19:43 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6cjve6> (at www.marketwatch.com)

19:43 <PovAddict> mmm chocolates

19:44 <MTughan> Oh, those things...

19:45 <MTughan> Wow... Oil reserves in your backyard.

19:45 <MTughan> Does he get free oil? 'Course, he'd have to refine it to gas first...

19:46 <PovAddict> free gas yep

19:47 <PovAddict> he could get paid for his oil in both dollars and car fuel :)

19:47 <MTughan> True.

19:47 <MTughan> Helps with the way gas prices have spiked.

19:48 <MTughan> Just a few years ago, we were paying ~60 cents per litre of gas. Now we're up around $1.30 per litre.

19:48 <PovAddict> o.0

19:49 <MTughan> Exactly.

19:49 <PovAddict> heh, Rom posting an BOINC alpha build that doesn't work on his own machine :D

19:50 <KathrynM> lol

19:50 <Soul_keeper> http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data

19:50 <Romulus> Title: Shadow Government Statistics Alternate Data Series (at www.shadowstats.com)

19:50 <MTughan> Here we go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gas_Prices_Medium_Term.png

19:50 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/58gczt> (at en.wikipedia.org)

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19:51 <MTughan> Hmm... That big spike in unemployment: is it just me, or does it look around 9/11?

19:54 <MTughan> Wow... According to Wikipedia, Venezuelans pay 17 cents US per gallon of gas...

19:59 <MTughan> WTF? "Advanced digital radio signal needs no line of sight and lets you work up to two metres from the receiver - through cups, piles of papers or the thickest sandwich"

20:00 <KathrynM> sandwich?

20:00 * KathrynM is back (gone 03:18:38)

20:00 <MTughan> From a wireless trackball description...

20:00 <MTughan> You're operating on a sandwich?

20:00 <PovAddict> mmm sandwich

20:01 * KathrynM is hungry

20:01 <KathrynM> bbiab...  breakfast

20:01 * PovAddict wonders how he manages not to get fat

20:01 <jackygrahamez__> Do they have BBQ ribs in Korea?

20:01 <KathrynM> you can get them at TGIFriday

20:02 <jackygrahamez__> with a side of Kiamchi?

20:02 <PovAddict> especially considering how much excercise I do (not)

20:02 <KathrynM> If you asked, probably :P

20:02 <KathrynM> pizza comes with a side of pickles

20:02 <MTughan> Oh yeah... At a park near here, they have a "Rib 'n Roll" fest. Ribs from places around here with (often crappy) music. Really good ribs...

20:02 * KathrynM is jealous

20:02 <MTughan> And jackygrahamez__: That's kimchi.

20:02 <KathrynM> lol

20:02 * PovAddict is actually having weight problems...

20:02 <KathrynM> I knew what he meant

20:03 <PovAddict> not weighing *enough* for my height

20:03 * KathrynM wishes she had that problem

20:03 <MTughan> I've gotten used to a lot of these terms with a Korean around.

20:03 <PovAddict> lol

20:03 <KathrynM> I can send you some of my excess

20:03 <MTughan> PovAddict: Tell me about it. 5' 4" and around 205lbs.

20:03 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you're late for that, a few people already offered that

20:03 <MTughan> Doesn't help that I've been munching on chocolate...

20:04 <PovAddict> MTughan: metric plz

20:04 <MTughan> &math convert 205 pounds kg

20:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 92.98643585

20:04 <PovAddict> :o

20:04 <MTughan> &math convert 64 in cm

20:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 162.56

20:05 <jackygrahamez__> I'm on a diet, I'm aiming for negative pounds

20:05 <MTughan> lol

20:05 <PovAddict> ...so there's somebody *else* in queue to send me excess weight?

20:05 <MTughan> Sure.

20:05 <PovAddict> lol

20:05 * KathrynM will reveal she's 5'6''

20:05 <KathrynM> but that's it

20:05 <MTughan> You won't tell us you're 300 pounds? xD

20:06 <MTughan> jk

20:06 * PovAddict notes MTughan earned a kick

20:06 * PovAddict will brb

20:06 <KathrynM> in the balls

20:06 <MTughan> That's what's great about IRC!

20:07 <MTughan> You can make mildly crude jokes like that without much consequence.

20:08 <MTughan> No threats though, because IPs can be traced.

20:08 <PovAddict> yep

20:09 <PovAddict> that's why whoever finds a way to kick somebody in the balls over the Internet will be sooo rich

20:09 <KathrynM> lol

20:09 <MTughan> For a time. People will then go through anonymous gateways.

20:09 <MTughan> &google JAP

20:09 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.13 seconds: Java Anonymous Proxy - JAP: <http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html>; JAP -- ANONYMITY & PRIVACY: <http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/mac/download_en.html>; Journal of Applied Physics: <http://jap.aip.org/>; Jewish-American princess - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_princess>; Journal of Applied Physiology: (2 more messages)

20:10 <PovAddict> in many acses, those who deserve a ball-kick are also too stupid to use a gateway

20:10 <PovAddict> cases*

20:11 <MTughan> Fair enough.

20:11 <MTughan> I'm not. :D

20:11 <PovAddict> nope

20:11 <PovAddict> that's why when such kicking mechanism appears, we should kick you as many times as possible until you set up the gateway

20:12 <MTughan> Well, I'm not using one right now, because there is no way to deliver a physical kick in the balls over the Internet at this point.

20:12 <Romulus> Now clean this up"

20:12 <MTughan> Oh, I'd disconnect first.

20:12 <PovAddict> lol

20:12 * KathrynM laughts at rommie

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20:28 <jackygrahamez__> that is an interesting acronym

20:29 <jackygrahamez__> what if a young lady has shared japanese and jewish american decent?

20:30 <MTughan> In this case, it stands for Java Anonymous Proxy.

20:30 <MTughan> No, I'm not calling anyone a Jap.

20:31 <jackygrahamez__> that's good

20:42 <freelarry> only bad thing about complete reinstall is the reformat of hd

20:42 <freelarry> 92%done currently

20:42 <Tank_Master> fun stuff

20:43 <freelarry> yeah reading "going postal" by terry prachett while waiting

20:54 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

20:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 54.3F / 12.4C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.18in / 988.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then chance of showers after midnight. Lows 50 to 56. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent. ; Saturday - (2 more messages)

20:54 <Soul_keeper> mmmm rain

20:59 <efc> moo

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21:20 <freelarry> question -is the 64 bit windows version really compatible with both xp64 and vista?

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21:35 <Tank_Master> version of what?

21:35 <MTughan> I assume BOINC.

21:36 <Tank_Master> any progran should work on both (unless it is spifically changing the OS version and is writen my the programmer to only install on that particular OS)

21:36 <freelarry> boinc manager for windows i think 5.10.45?

21:36 <Tank_Master> checking*

21:36 <Tank_Master> yes

21:36 <Tank_Master> BOINC will run on both

21:37 <freelarry> was wondring as had a lot of system crashes while running on xp64

21:37 <freelarry> but not sure if boinc or the setup of windoze

21:37 <Tank_Master> its been stable on my server 2008 x64

21:37 <freelarry> dam crashed again during driver install

21:48 <efc> I'm putting xp (found a cd laying around) on an old box to see how I like it..

21:58 * Soul_keeper cringes

22:02 <efc> Seems ok, of course I never actually use that box for anything

22:02 <efc> if not for the quad core problems, you'd have to pry 2k out of my cold dead fingers

22:09 <PovAddict> freelarry: XP 64-bit isn't completely stable, *particularly* due to drivers

22:09 <PovAddict> Vista has way better 64-bit support

22:10 <PovAddict> ...or Linux ;)

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22:26 <freelarry> yeah M$ got more suppliers for vista but some are now supporting x64 also as people showed they weren't willing to change so fast

22:27 <freelarry> and of course my x64 is version 1.0 so have to get thru some headaches to get to updates

22:38 <MTughan> Hehe... Ever wondered what happens if Santa gets stuck in your chimney? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETLPU8cYOUs

22:38 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Brainiac - How To Get Santa Out of Your Chimney (at www.youtube.com)

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23:02 <efc> Wish we got some wind here... turbines don't look too bad

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23:20 <Soul_keeper> if they stop this baseball game because it's raining i'm gonna flip

23:21 <Soul_keeper> baseball players will then be officially weaker than golfers

23:24 <efc> They usually do don't they?

23:33 <Soul_keeper> i guess, but it's weak

23:33 <Soul_keeper> that's why the terrorist see us as an easy target

23:34 <Soul_keeper> get a little water on us and we go home with our tail between the legs

23:34 <MTughan> Have you also considered what rain might do to the flight path of a baseball?

23:35 <Soul_keeper> add complexity where only the best team would win

23:35 <Soul_keeper> it don't stop football players ...

23:36 <MTughan> No, but that ball also has more mass.

23:36 <MTughan> And it's not being thrown at you at ~90mph.

23:36 <Soul_keeper> baseball still works in the rain regardless

23:37 <Soul_keeper> just my opinion on the matter

23:38 <MTughan> Yeah. It probably doesn't affect it much, but it could be enough.

23:38 <Soul_keeper> they get payed millions of dollars and they are scared of a little weather

23:38 <MTughan> Well, there is one thing: I don't blame them for not playing in lightning.

23:38 <Soul_keeper> lol i do

23:39 <PovAddict> whole new meaning to "strike"?

23:39 <MTughan> lol

23:39 <Soul_keeper> snow, rain, hail, dark, hot, etc.  should all be fare game

23:39 <MTughan> Tornado?

23:39 <PovAddict> that's gray area

23:40 <Soul_keeper> lol

23:40 <Soul_keeper> you just gotta play thru it, that's the american way, tough it out

23:41 <MTughan> Apparently, it's not the American way if they stop.

23:41 <Soul_keeper> puljos broke our pitcher's nose the other day, and sprained our catcher's ankle

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23:42 <Soul_keeper> hit the ball right into his face

23:42 <Soul_keeper> then when he was coming home, ran the catcher over

23:42 <Soul_keeper> now that's baseball

23:43 <efc> Hey jackygrahamex__, have you looked into Ruthenium based water splitting?

23:43 <Soul_keeper> if you can't get out of the way, and get your nose broken that's cause you're weak and deserved it

23:43 <MTughan> Riiight...

23:43 <Soul_keeper> :)

23:43 <efc> Soul: heard about the people suing little league and louisville slugger for using aluminum bats cuz you can hit the ball too hard?

23:43 <MTughan> That's a really bad joke... In Audacity, for confirmation, you click a button that says "Audacious!"

23:44 <Soul_keeper> efc, yeah that's stupid liberals

23:44 <Soul_keeper> the same idiots that sue mccdonalds because the coffee is too hot, or the same ones that lobby government to card you to get a pack of matches at the gas station

23:44 <PovAddict> MTughan: see about box

23:45 <MTughan> That's where I was reminded of it.

23:45 <Soul_keeper> liberals

23:48 <MTughan> Yeah, I was updating my sister's computer and wondered if there was an update for Audacity, so I had to go to the about box. New minor version of the beta.

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