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03:34 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
03:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 58.8°F / 14.9°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming northeast after midnight. ; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers...mainly in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)
03:34 <CoderForLife> &more
03:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 30 percent. ; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of showers in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent. ;
03:37 <freelarry> morning
03:38 <freelarry> just home and starting to set up new machine - 500 gig hd going to take a while to format
03:38 <freelarry> &wx 98366
03:38 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 49.6°F / 9.8°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.59in / 1001.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Lows in the mid 40s to lower 50s. North wind 5 to 15 mph this evening becoming light. ; Friday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the lower to mid 60s. Light wind becoming north around (1 more message)
03:38 <freelarry> &more
03:38 <Romulus> freelarry: 10 mph in the afternoon. ; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of evening showers. Lows in the upper 40s and lower 50s. North wind around 10 mph in the evening becoming light. ;
03:41 <freelarry> so second quad should be online sometime today
03:42 <CoderForLife> morning freelarry
03:42 <freelarry> morn CoderForLife
03:42 <CoderForLife> I woke up at 3am
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03:43 <freelarry> 0040 right now here - you up a little to early
03:43 <CoderForLife> got up to work on some of my stuff
03:43 <freelarry> yours or w/*-
03:43 * freelarry forgives slip
03:43 <CoderForLife> this is mine
03:43 <freelarry> ahh fun stuff then
03:44 <CoderForLife> hopefully profitable
03:44 <freelarry> i just shed a little tear for my old scsi ht prescott - hope you get a lot
03:45 <CoderForLife> hey thx =)
03:45 <CoderForLife> I need to put together a sync'd Windows/Linux development environment
03:46 <CoderForLife> planning simulateous s/w upgrades
03:46 <CoderForLife> going to use Subversion as a common ground between the platforms
03:46 <freelarry> setting up xp pro 64 on new quad -- ohh not sure about that but if you want to try some of my machines for your developement talk to pov about setting up an account on them
03:46 <CoderForLife> one source code for both platforms
03:47 <freelarry> that should be good
03:47 <CoderForLife> maybe at some point - thanks bunches
03:48 <freelarry> just realize i don't have the fastest connection around but not to bad now - went back to high speed cable
03:48 <CoderForLife> overall, I think I'm doing better on cable than I did on ADSL - I think I'll get a bite to eat from the kitchen - brb
03:49 <freelarry> humm may have a problem here - got to 10% format and new machine shut down
03:55 <CoderForLife> back
03:55 <CoderForLife> not good, freelarry
03:56 <CoderForLife> I was donwloading F9 DVD ISO when I went to bed last time, and it had stopped way short - re-downloading now
03:57 <CoderForLife> er last night*
04:00 <CoderForLife> 41% done now - further than last night
04:04 <freelarry> ugg
04:04 <freelarry> don't know what going on yet - seems to not want to load os so checking bios currently
04:05 <freelarry> could be a bad dvd or loose connection - cant get side off to check it tho
04:07 <freelarry> humm just shutting down by itself - hope the heatsink on good
04:09 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
04:10 <CoderForLife> 53% of F9 DVD downloaded
04:12 <freelarry> long dl isn't it
04:16 <freelarry> well restarting format hope it lasts
04:18 <CoderForLife> yeah 3.4GB - 68% done
04:20 <freelarry> ouch
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04:20 <CoderForLife> Fedora 9
04:21 <freelarry> well tore off some access plates and noticed the cpu fan was blocked by a wire so maybe it will continue to run now that i freed it
04:21 <freelarry> sounds quiter
04:23 <CoderForLife> ah would be a significant problem
04:23 <freelarry> yeah and couldn't get side plate off to see what happened during transport
04:23 <freelarry> took off front and then th drive access plates to reach in
04:24 <CoderForLife> major surgery
04:24 <freelarry> cosmetic only - ps exhasut cooler now too
04:25 <Romulus> what do you think it's a wash.
04:25 <freelarry> format now at 2%
04:25 <freelarry> your dl probable will finish before the format does
04:26 <freelarry> 1% every 1.5 to 2 minutes
04:26 <CoderForLife> 84%
04:27 <freelarry> 4%
04:27 <freelarry> ;P
04:27 <CoderForLife> a-yuppa
04:28 <freelarry> loks like the powr cable for back fan had drooped into the cpu fan so should go well now - will wait till past the 10% point befoe leaving tho
04:30 <freelarry> oh yeah - lootss less heat now
04:31 <CoderForLife> excellent
04:31 <CoderForLife> 93%
04:31 * CoderForLife looks for the blank DVD supply
04:33 <freelarry> lol - see two spindles ontop of shelvs here
04:33 <Romulus> you need to add to it
04:33 <CoderForLife> I found the CDs
04:33 <freelarry> 10% so soon can go get some coffee
04:33 <CoderForLife> need the DVDs
04:33 <freelarry> yupper 2 spindles dvd's on shelf and one spindle of cd's
04:34 <freelarry> 11% and coffee time
04:34 <CoderForLife> k
04:34 <CoderForLife> I need more beverage - brb
05:15 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:38:52)
05:16 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM
05:16 <KathrynM> evenin CoderForLife
05:24 <CoderForLife> I've been up since 3am
05:24 <KathrynM> you're channeling my insomnia
05:24 <CoderForLife> right now I'm trying to get the SHA1 computed on the F9 DVD ISO I downloaded
05:25 <CoderForLife> Windows is not nearly as SHA1 computational friendly as Linux
05:25 <KathrynM> :)
05:30 <CoderForLife> DVD ISO SHA1 checks out
05:31 <Romulus> At least not with just one sip.
05:31 <CoderForLife> true that, Rommie
05:31 <KathrynM> Rommie is a fountain of wisdom.
05:31 <CoderForLife> net inst ISO also checks
05:32 <CoderForLife> I haven't historically had much luck with CD/DVD-based installs on the target box
05:32 <CoderForLife> I've had the most success with just getting booted, and doing installs over HTTP
05:33 <KathrynM> That's on my list for the weekend.
05:33 <KathrynM> If this damn migraine goes away that is
05:34 <CoderForLife> take 2 ISOs and call me in the morning
05:35 * CoderForLife yawns
05:35 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%
05:35 <KathrynM> all hail the weekend
05:35 <CoderForLife> seems like I've been up for hours
05:35 <KathrynM> you have been up for hours
05:35 <CoderForLife> oh, yeah, right
05:35 <CoderForLife> 3 day weekend coming up
05:36 <KathrynM> lucky
05:36 <CoderForLife> great time for Linux installs
05:36 <CoderForLife> project planning
05:36 <CoderForLife> Coding environment upgrades
05:36 <KathrynM> doesn't everyone spend their weekends doing geeky stuff
05:37 <CoderForLife> oh, and family somewhere along the way
05:37 <KathrynM> oh yea. family
05:37 <CoderForLife> yeah, those hangers-on
05:37 <KathrynM> pains
05:37 <CoderForLife> a needy bunch of people
05:38 <CoderForLife> well, the shower is calling my name
05:38 <KathrynM> laterz
05:39 <CoderForLife> yes, my name is pronounced "FSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS"
05:39 <CoderForLife> bbiab - wetter but happier
06:04 <CoderForLife> b
06:05 <KathrynM> squeaky clean?
06:09 * CoderForLife squeaks
06:09 <CoderForLife> appears so
06:09 <CoderForLife> maybe that was a creak...
06:09 <KathrynM> squeak, creak
06:09 <KathrynM> what's the difference :)
06:10 <CoderForLife> opposites directions in entropy
06:11 <CoderForLife> one toward higher order, the other toward more disorder
06:12 <KathrynM> :)
06:12 <CoderForLife> (knee disorder, hip disorder, back disorder)
06:12 <KathrynM> lol
06:12 <CoderForLife> well, time to go W@#% for The Man - make some wall money
06:12 <KathrynM> enjoy (as best you can)
06:13 <CoderForLife> it's Friday so that helps
06:13 <KathrynM> definitely
06:13 <CoderForLife> and we got out for pizza on Friday, so that helps too
06:13 <KathrynM> even more so
06:13 <CoderForLife> man, the sky is rose colored this morning
06:14 <CoderForLife> from purple down to hot pink
06:14 <CoderForLife> spectacular
06:14 <KathrynM> sounds pretty
06:14 <CoderForLife> wonderful
06:14 <CoderForLife> but "red sky at morning..."
06:14 <KathrynM> sailor take warning
06:15 <KathrynM> are you going sailing?
06:15 <CoderForLife> if the hill doesn't stop, I'll be swimming in the creek
06:15 <CoderForLife> does that count?
06:15 <KathrynM> yeah
06:15 <CoderForLife> OK
06:16 <CoderForLife> I'm on the rim and out the door
06:16 <CoderForLife> cya
06:16 <KathrynM> laterz
06:16 * CoderForLife sees he is already "away"
06:16 * CoderForLife makes it so
06:20 <Didactylos> Who maintains the Debian port?
06:22 <KathrynM> Frank Thomas??
06:36 <hawmps> the harbormaster..
06:42 <Didactylos> I think he might have broken SSL again.
06:43 <KathrynM> oh fun
06:43 <Romulus> twiddles her fingers while waiting for train to arrive (on a particularly bad day): http://bp3.blogger.com/_CFhsZt0Romk/R_ECl3nJf-I/AAAAAAAAAhg/Dt-DieHWGoQ/s1600-h/DSC00194.JPG
07:23 <Romulus> Title: FreeRice (at www.freerice.com)
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07:45 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
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09:23 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
09:23 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 55.9°F / 13.3°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.06in / 984.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs 61 to 66 in the western valleys to 57 to 62 near the foothills. Winds southwest 15 to 20 mph. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent. ; Tonight - Cloudy with (2 more messages)
10:10 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319
10:11 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 52.1°F / 11.2°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Today - Cloudy with a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms. High in the lower 60s. East wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent. ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy early in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Low (1 more message)
10:11 <wdsmia_w> &more
10:11 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: in the lower 50s. East wind 10 to 20 mph. ; Saturday - Partly sunny. Warmer. High in the mid 70s. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. ;
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10:37 <PovAddict> rofl
10:37 <PovAddict> in #iphone
10:37 <PovAddict> they made some noob run rm -rf *
10:37 <PovAddict> took them ages to make him do it, it was really dunny
10:38 <PovAddict> ...it was really Funny how in the whole process like 6 people "helped" him, everyone playing along, nobody telling him "no don't do that it will break your phone badly"
10:38 <PovAddict> (helped him run the evil command)
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11:01 * desti awards PovAddict some evil points
11:01 * PovAddict rejects them
11:02 <PovAddict> that was while I sleeped, I was just reading the logs... I couldn't join the fun myself :)
11:02 * Tank_Master steels them
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11:19 <freelarry> &bighello
11:19 <Romulus> Hello Aeternus, benje, bryanUC, Celelaptop, Celelibi, CoderForLife, deprecated, desti, Didactylos, ELGono, freelarry, frost__, hawmps, KathrynM_, Lorvija, MacG_, MTughan, PieSpyRom, PovAddict, quail, redeeman, Romulus, siofwolves, Soul_keeper, Tank_Master, TheFons, thoren, Turf, wdsmia, wdsmia_w, and xcamel
11:20 <Tank_Master> &who cares
11:20 <Romulus> Tank_Master: No users matched cares.
11:20 <freelarry> now if only could train Romulus to install os for me --- sigh
11:20 <redeeman> lol
11:21 * CoderForLife is momentarily awakened at w@#%, then goes back to sleep
11:23 <hawmps> aye.
11:24 * freelarry thnks CoderForLife needs nap as freelarry just woke up
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11:27 * CoderForLife gets ready to go to Friday pizza with the gang
11:28 <CoderForLife> Friday -> Donato's -> Serious Meat pizza
11:28 * CoderForLife catches 2 more minutes of shut eye
11:30 <wdsmia_w> Friday -> El Charro's -> Happy Burritos
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11:33 <jackygrahamez> hi all
11:33 <freelarry> morn jackygrahamez
11:33 <jackygrahamez> does anyone have experience using a hosting providers?
11:34 <jackygrahamez> particularly a VPS
11:34 * freelarry has glazed look in eyes
11:34 <jackygrahamez> I just have a question about what are reasonable expectations
11:36 <jackygrahamez> Reason being this is the second time over the course of a week that a snapshot got corrupted
11:36 <jackygrahamez> So my project is down again
11:37 <freelarry> have no idea jackygrahamez - start of os install here so not at machine - but seems you asking about a virtual private setup i thnk
11:37 <Tank_Master> hey, jack
11:37 <jackygrahamez> They certainly are not meeting MY expectations
11:37 <jackygrahamez> No I'm just asking if I should demand my money back for this month
11:37 <freelarry> suggest contact with provider tech support
11:38 <jackygrahamez> They provide snapshot backups, and that backup is not working twice
11:38 <Tank_Master> any oneline backup service should be good enough to not corrupt your backup
11:38 <Tank_Master> thats the point of a backup, so your information DOESNT get corrupted and lost
11:39 <jackygrahamez> That's what I'm thinking, I contacted them to work on the problem, just wondering if I should get some break for the inconvenience
11:39 <jackygrahamez> I should look over the service agreement closely
11:39 <Tank_Master> ywah
11:39 <Tank_Master> yeah*
11:40 <Tank_Master> so, id this gonna delay when new work will be generated?
11:40 <Tank_Master> is*
11:40 <Tank_Master> :D
11:40 <Tank_Master> &8ball Will jackygrahamez release new work soon?
11:40 <Romulus> Tank_Master: The answer is def-- oooh! shiny thing!
11:40 <jackygrahamez> I'll have to see what they can do, how bad it is
11:41 <Tank_Master> lol
11:41 <Tank_Master> ok
11:42 <jackygrahamez> Maybe I should go on strike for more money
11:42 <Tank_Master> lol
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11:55 * wdsmia_w heads off for Lunch Be Back in about 3 hr's
11:56 <Tank_Master> long lunch break
11:56 <Tank_Master> hope she's worth it ;)
11:56 <jackygrahamez> My provider is troubleshooting the restore
11:56 <Tank_Master> good
11:58 <jackygrahamez> I've been using this service for about a year and it seems like a small shop, probably one person because I'm always emailing the same guy
11:58 <Tank_Master> lol
11:59 <jackygrahamez> If I had the money, I would go for a dedicated server
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12:34 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: what provider is it?
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12:43 <freelarry> oh my finally got the 2 major updates done - now for the 40 others and then the ones after them
12:43 <freelarry> then finally can go looking for the video card driver
12:44 <freelarry> and of course install boinc
12:47 <jackygrahamez> Quantact, I just spoke with the guy and he is going to do some testing and switch me over to a new server
12:47 <Tank_Master> nice
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13:11 <kexman> what good are credits ?
13:19 <desti> credits
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13:25 <PovAddict> kexman: showing you contributed more than... people with less credits than you
13:26 <kexman> aha
13:26 <kexman> nothing more then that ? :)
13:26 <PovAddict> what do you expect, getting physical prizes? :)
13:26 <PovAddict> who will pay for them? :)
13:27 <PovAddict> most projects are *already* low on money...
13:27 <kexman> aha
13:27 <kexman> what projects would you recommend ?
13:27 <kexman> i am running rosetta@home
13:27 <jackygrahamez> I will bake brownies and ship em ;-)
13:28 <kexman> btw how do you kow the project is "legit" and you are really helping to find cures for cancer
13:28 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: in exchange for crunching Hydrogen@home? :P
13:28 <kexman> and not helping the army to develope high techk millitary stuff
13:28 <PovAddict> kexman: for a project as big and popular as rosetta... if they weren't legit, somebody would have found out already
13:28 <kexman> someone could make a bruteforce for a password and cloack it into a project :)
13:28 <kexman> probably its just my paranoid thinking but still
13:28 <jackygrahamez> any technology can be used for ill purposes
13:29 <kexman> PovAddict: hmm
13:29 <kexman> well
13:29 <PovAddict> bruteforce for a password? somebody could make a *keylogger* and cloak it for a project; you get credits for each banking password they get from you ;)
13:30 <PovAddict> that's why it's a bad idea to join to alpha projects as soon as they appear, like some people do... no idea what could be behind
13:30 <PovAddict> but really, any project that already managed to get listed on a stats site is probably legit
13:31 <PovAddict> and for "big" ones like Rosetta... they have met personally with BOINC developers so...
13:31 <kexman> PovAddict: probably != legit :)
13:31 <kexman> aha
13:31 <kexman> okay
13:31 <kexman> well but it could be something like i want to crack passwords
13:31 <kexman> i make a project
13:31 <kexman> i give the project hashes and they bruteforce then :)
13:31 <kexman> hehe
13:32 <kexman> well its just my imagination being vivid at this moment :)
13:32 <PovAddict> and wait for the stupid ATAers to join immediately, then bruteforce passwords
13:32 <PovAddict> once you're done with the passwords, you just send a new version of the app... that h4x their computers
13:34 <kexman> k :)
13:34 <kexman> thanx for the help
13:35 <Romulus> Title: Choosing BOINC projects (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
13:39 <kexman> what's with that ?
13:40 <kexman> all those are legit projects ?
13:40 <kexman> i know seti has been there for a while
13:40 <kexman> did it manage to do anything for the peoples ?
13:40 <PovAddict> all those were "verified" by BOINC developers
13:40 <kexman> anything interesting has "come" out of seti@home ?
13:40 <PovAddict> not that I know of
13:42 <kexman> heh
13:42 <kexman> what about any other ?
13:43 <PovAddict> currently, all "known" projects are "legit"... some are doing useless work, there was one doing controversial work (rainbow tables) but none has ever intentionally damaged users' computers
13:43 <kexman> did any of the grid computing projects gave something to humanity ?
13:43 <PovAddict> hmm not sure
13:43 <kexman> rainbow tables = big fucking legit project :) LOL :)
13:43 <wdsmia> asks kexman to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
13:43 * PovAddict pokes Didactylos
13:43 <Romulus> can anyone look at the "ldb>" prompt now
13:43 <Didactylos> Hi
13:44 <PovAddict> Didactylos: does WCG have some page listing real benefits they have *already* produced with distributed computing?
13:45 <PovAddict> or has nothing come out yet?
13:46 <kexman> im off :)
13:46 <kexman> see ya
13:46 <kexman> ohh
13:46 <kexman> wait i want to see this
13:46 <jackygrahamez> This link presents scientific publications that have resulted from research using BOINC http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Publications_by_BOINC_projects
13:46 <kexman> PovAddict: well im interested if all this calculations are usefull or useless
13:47 <Didactylos> PovAddict: only a few scientific papers, and the Help Defeat Cancer project got the data they needed to go to the next stage.
13:47 <PovAddict> kexman: in some cases it's up to you... is there any "use" in searching for prime numbers?
13:48 <kexman> cool
13:48 <kexman> PovAddict: i dont know
13:48 <kexman> i am not a math guy
13:48 <PovAddict> PrimeGrid is useful in the sense that it's not just burning cycles, or searching for primes that are already known, or using inefficient algorithms; but it's up to you to decide if the whole idea of searching for prime numbers is useful
13:48 <kexman> but for mathematicians there probably is
13:49 <Didactylos> The path from WCG's research to an actual drug is many, many years of expensive work.
13:49 <kexman> wcg = rosetta ?
13:49 <kexman> ahh no
13:49 <PovAddict> no, World Community Grid
13:50 <kexman> you say that one is better then rosetta ?
13:50 <Didactylos> Help Defeat Cancer applies computation directly to diagnosis, so it gets real results much more quickly.
13:50 <PovAddict> which has a lot of sub-projects
13:50 <PovAddict> there are no "better" projects :P they do *different* research
13:50 <kexman> well im willikng to contribute to help cure cancer
13:50 <Didactylos> kexman: World Community Grid actually utilises the software produced by the rosetta project for one of their projects.
13:51 <Didactylos> Human Proteome Folding puts it to practical use.
13:51 <kexman> cool
13:52 <PovAddict> Didactylos: so rosetta workunits are mostly just to develop their software?
13:52 <kexman> well i hope that these computers contributing to these projects will really help
13:53 <PovAddict> I remember once they were calculating some protein structure that was already known, to see if the software calculated it correctly; but I don't know if that's what they always do :P
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13:53 <kexman> PovAddict: research might mean recalculation :)
13:53 <PovAddict> of course
13:53 <kexman> okay i have to split now
13:53 <kexman> see ya later
13:53 <PovAddict> bye
13:53 <kexman> was nice talking to you
13:53 <kexman> byebye
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13:54 <PovAddict> developing the software definitely *is* useful... without those "useless re-calculations" they wouldn't develop the software correctly, and without that WCG HPF couldn't put it to practical use :)
13:55 <PovAddict> I'm just wondering if Rosetta does its own "practical use" too
13:55 <Didactylos> PovAddict: yes and no.
13:55 <Didactylos> Rosetta are more interested in *how* proteins fold.
13:56 <Didactylos> HPF is more interested in folding proteins and looking at what they fold into.
13:56 <Didactylos> So, Rosetta's research has more interest for diseases that involve folding, or folding failure - such as Alzheimer's.
13:56 <PovAddict> hmm... let's take bets, did DA get pissed or not...
13:57 <PovAddict> &8b did DA get pissed
13:57 <Romulus> PovAddict: _I_ don't know.
13:57 <PovAddict> I say yes... *opens message*
13:58 <Didactylos> What did you do now?
13:58 <Didactylos> The security issue?
14:02 <PovAddict> yeah, not so much the security issue but the way I explained it
14:02 <PovAddict> particularly last line on my explanation
14:13 <CoderForLife> security is rarely convenient (tm)
14:14 <freelarry> oh my those updates have been going long - left in the middle of them to doctors and just got back and still on the last install
14:15 <CoderForLife> bragging or complaining?
14:15 <freelarry> both
14:15 <CoderForLife> maybe you just have fast doctors
14:15 <freelarry> was hoping it would be done so could get boinc started
14:16 <freelarry> lol yeah especially when they aren't feeling on top of the world either
14:16 <jackygrahamez> I envision the developments from these projects will synthesize into some powerful technologies
14:16 <CoderForLife> that would have been a satisfying outcome - what have you done to deserve that?
14:17 <jackygrahamez> When used in combination a tool for designing enzymes and a tool for modeling how that enzyme behaves for instance
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14:18 <freelarry> humm looks like conflict between M$ malisious software removal and nv firewall
14:19 <jackygrahamez> I don't know if this is a current problem in science, but it feels like there are not enough researchers who know how to utilizes this technology
14:20 <PovAddict> heh, I knew it!
14:20 <jackygrahamez> The other factor, the people responsible for developing technologies have an interest in monitizing their findings...an open source internet based project does not allow them to keep trade secrets
14:21 <PovAddict> on my post, I said "(why did I bother saying the solution? It will probably get fixed in a day with an ugly hackish workaround anyway...)"
14:21 <PovAddict> and there he goes... kill connection on <unauthorized/>...
14:25 <Didactylos> As the Swedish chef says: fork! fork! fork!
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14:34 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo
14:41 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
14:56 <wdsmia_w> re-hi
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15:39 <PovAddict> Didactylos: hack is implemented
15:40 <Didactylos> Already?!
15:40 <PovAddict> 
15:41 <Didactylos> If he was going to backport it, I would understand and accept it as a necessary evil.
15:41 <Didactylos> Is he?
15:41 <PovAddict> backport to 5.x?
15:42 <PovAddict> he committed in trunk
15:47 <jackygrahamez> My hosting provider is located in Northern California. I wonder if I can get David to kick their shins
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16:01 <Tank_Master> lol
16:02 <freelarry> alright - removed the nv firewall program and now boinc works on new machine
16:03 <freelarry> its starting to crunch 80
16:03 <Tank_Master> a wise man once said: friends dont let friends use sNorton
16:05 <freelarry> yeah
16:06 <freelarry> humm may have a bad stick of memory as keep getting a shutdown for some reason tho -- will keep eye on it for a bit
16:06 <freelarry> if nothing else will run the f8 disk and use memtest
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16:15 <CoderForLife> damn Miranda bug
16:15 <CoderForLife> you're stuck with a stick that won't do the trick, freelarry?
16:15 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
16:16 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 63.3°F / 17.4°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.24in / 1023.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with showers likely. Lows around 50. Northeast winds around 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent. ; Saturday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. Northeast winds around 10 mph. ; Saturday Night - Clear. Lows in the (1 more message)
16:16 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123
16:16 <Tank_Master> &more
16:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.
16:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 55.0°F / 12.8°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with rain at times. Highs around 60. West wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon. ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows around (1 more message)
16:16 <Tank_Master> &more
16:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 50. North wind 5 to 10 mph. ; Saturday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and afternoon thunderstorms. Highs around 70. Light wind becoming northwest 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. ;
16:17 <freelarry> possible CoderForLife
16:17 <freelarry> or could be program conflicts also
16:18 <Tank_Master> or pebkac issues
16:18 <PovAddict> loose cable in power button?
16:18 <PovAddict> oshi-
16:18 <PovAddict> my router just fell down
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16:19 <Tank_Master> bummer
16:19 <Tank_Master> KM_!
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16:19 <Tank_Master> DM!
16:19 <CoderForLife> &more
16:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: upper 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. ;
16:20 <KathrynM> moanin
16:20 <KathrynM> Happy Saturday
16:20 * KathrynM is back (gone 07:58:11)
16:20 <PovAddict> early..
16:20 <CoderForLife> Happy Friday evening of a holiday weekend
16:20 <KathrynM> yup
16:20 <KathrynM> just rub it in CoderForLife
16:20 <jackygrahamez> I expect to have it back online sometime in the next 6 hours
16:20 <KathrynM> hiya Jack
16:21 * Tank_Master has no work or kids to deal with for the weekend
16:21 * CoderForLife gets out the rubbing oil
16:21 * freelarry kicks self as forgot to check and save bios last night due to overheating
16:22 <Tank_Master> noob
16:22 <freelarry> lol yupper forgot me head this am
16:22 <freelarry> have you seen it?
16:23 <Tank_Master> no, but I dead hear the cat playing with some marbels earlyer
16:23 <Tank_Master> are those yours to?
16:23 <CoderForLife> I guess you can't see it, as it has your eyes
16:23 <KathrynM> I haven't lost my mind; I have a backup somewhere.
16:23 <Tank_Master> lol
16:23 <Tank_Master> its a corrupt backup
16:24 <Tank_Master> thats how people's minds become corrupt
16:24 <freelarry> not mine Tank_Master - lost all the marbles years ago
16:24 <CoderForLife> any special requests from the grocery store tomorrow morning?
16:24 <Tank_Master> humm, maybe they aer KathrynM's?
16:24 <freelarry> mac an cheese
16:24 <freelarry> hotdogs too
16:25 <Tank_Master> breasts
16:25 * CoderForLife write mac and cheese, tube steaks
16:25 * CoderForLife writes Playboy
16:25 <KathrynM> brownies
16:25 * Tank_Master wonders why CoderForLife wants to play with a boy
16:25 * CoderForLife writes Death By Chocolate
16:25 <KathrynM> :D
16:26 <CoderForLife> that's for you, Tank_Master
16:26 * Tank_Master dont want to boy to play with
16:26 * CoderForLife crosses out Playboy
16:27 <CoderForLife> any other requests?
16:27 <Tank_Master> besides, its not he same to hold a pic as the real thing
16:27 <Tank_Master> snickers
16:27 * CoderForLife writes cold shower for Tank_Master
16:30 <MTughan> This is positively weird...
16:30 <Tank_Master> lol
16:30 <MTughan> Nice place to come in, with CFL picking up a copy of Playboy for you.
16:30 <Tank_Master> hehe
16:31 <CoderForLife> I was trying to be helpful...
16:31 <MTughan> He did ask for breasts.
16:31 <CoderForLife> right
16:31 <jackygrahamez> I live in Washington, DC. How can I help but have a corrupted mind?
16:31 <Tank_Master> but I didnt mean some pathedic picks of desperate wanna-bes
16:32 <CoderForLife> you have corrupt on every corner
16:32 <MTughan> You hang out on #boinc. How can you help but have a corrupted mind?
16:32 <MTughan> :P
16:32 <CoderForLife> er +ion
16:32 * Tank_Master feels sorry for jackygrahamez for having to live in a political seth pool
16:32 <CoderForLife> hey, leave sethy out of it =)
16:33 <Tank_Master> lol
16:33 <CoderForLife> &seen sethy
16:33 <Romulus> CoderForLife: sethy was last seen in #boinc 6 days, 20 hours, 18 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <sethy> also still no reply from jenn ;_l
16:34 <Tank_Master> &seen god
16:34 <Romulus> Tank_Master: god was last seen in #boinc 2 years, 24 weeks, 5 days, 9 hours, 30 minutes, and 18 seconds ago: <god> why have you summoned me from my holy grail?
16:34 <DerMeister> lol
16:35 <Tank_Master> &seen satain
16:35 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I have not seen satain.
16:35 <PovAddict> &seen satan
16:35 <Romulus> PovAddict: I have not seen satan.
16:35 <CoderForLife> &seen diablo
16:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: I have not seen diablo.
16:36 <Tank_Master> &seen you
16:36 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I have not seen you.
16:36 <PovAddict> &seen anyone
16:36 <Romulus> PovAddict: I have not seen anyone.
16:36 <Tank_Master> BUT I AM RIGH T HERE!
16:36 * CoderForLife opens the package of DVD-Rs
16:37 <CoderForLife> this is an official geek weekend
16:37 <CoderForLife> a geekend
16:37 <wdsmia_w> God save us all
16:38 * CoderForLife shuts down boinc very temporarily to give max CPU to DVD burning
16:38 * CoderForLife brings up the Fedora 9 DVD ISO
16:41 * KathrynM tries to get a tad more sleep
16:41 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
16:41 <freelarry> memtest in progress here
16:42 <CoderForLife> hmm Roxio not running
16:44 <CoderForLife> it's... gone...
16:44 <freelarry> ah ha i see after finally figureing out how to get side panel off =- not memory or cpu - vid card cooling fan not running
16:45 <CoderForLife> you certainly are beset by fan problems
16:46 * wdsmia_w takes all his problems and sticks them in a drawer till tuesday
16:47 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/downloads-free-software.htm#burncdcc
16:47 <PovAddict> 200KB program to burn ISOs
16:48 <CoderForLife> looking
16:51 <CoderForLife> looks interesting - I'll give it a try
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16:52 <freelarry> true - after market video cooler - no hookup on vid card for it had to go to mb for connector
16:53 <MTughan> Was it a fanless vid card?
16:54 <freelarry> ati 2600 pro so nope - someone decided to try an aftermarket cooler on it
16:55 <MTughan> I would've thought there would be a fan plug.
16:55 <CoderForLife> ack
16:55 <MTughan> Or was it the wrong type or still had the stock fan?
16:55 <CoderForLife> endless prompting - "please insert a blank disk"
16:55 <jackygrahamez> Just a question is someone using Fedora 9 on their project?
16:55 <MTughan> You have a problem with it?
16:56 <jackygrahamez> no I'm just wondering how it is
16:56 <jackygrahamez> I've been using FC8
16:56 <MTughan> Ah... I've run the Fedora 9 GUI from a Live CD, but I don't run any projects.
16:56 <CoderForLife> no good, PovAddict
16:56 <PovAddict> is the right drive selected? (if you have more than one)
16:56 <jackygrahamez> my provider only offers images but I might be able to convince him to give me a 9 if its worth it
16:56 <MTughan> CoderForLife: I'd tell you to get Linux, but that's what you're trying to do, isn't it?
16:57 <PovAddict> lol
16:57 <PovAddict> install linux so you can burn the linux CD
16:57 <CoderForLife> I am burning the DVD on Windows
16:57 <MTughan> Yeah...
16:57 <CoderForLife> I don't have a DVD burner on a Linux box
16:58 * CoderForLife restarts the pgm
16:58 <MTughan> From a Google search: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm
16:58 <CoderForLife> well Burn CDCC sux
16:59 * CoderForLife looks at MTughan link
16:59 <jackygrahamez> Yes he could probably provide me with a way to install an iso, but I would only ask if it were worth the effort
16:59 <PovAddict> maybe roxio is still running?
16:59 <MTughan> I haven't tried it, note.
16:59 <jackygrahamez> FC8 was work fine
17:00 <CoderForLife> Roxio's folder disappeared
17:00 <CoderForLife> no shortcuts worked
17:00 <jackygrahamez> Just the provider had some bug when I was doing a snapshot
17:00 <PovAddict> uninstalled itself? :P
17:00 <CoderForLife> ok MTughan, you should feel fully disclaimed
17:00 <MTughan> While leaving shortcuts?
17:00 <CoderForLife> Windows control panel add/remove still thinks it's installed
17:01 <jackygrahamez> The control panel did not handle the job queue properly, so it might have been restarting when it was still making the image
17:01 <jackygrahamez> I'll be quiet
17:01 <MTughan> jackygrahamez: We can continue later.
17:02 <MTughan> Interesting... http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/burn_iso.htm
17:02 * CoderForLife runs ISO Recorder....
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17:04 <CoderForLife> that didn't install right...
17:04 <CoderForLife> no executable in Program Files directory
17:05 <PovAddict> on an unrelated note, I hate programs that install in "Program files"
17:05 * CoderForLife uninstalls ISO Recorder
17:06 <CoderForLife> so noted
17:06 <PovAddict> instead of checking for %PROGRAMFILES% and ending up in "Archivos de programa"
17:06 <CoderForLife> next suggestion?
17:06 <CoderForLife> burn_iso?
17:06 <PovAddict> reboot? ;)
17:07 <PovAddict> </generic_Windoze_suggestion>
17:07 <MTughan> lol\
17:07 <MTughan> Do you still have the Roxio disc?
17:07 <CoderForLife> I'm guessing ISO Recorder doesn't work on XP XP3
17:07 <PovAddict> xervice pack
17:08 <CoderForLife> I was going to go find it, but you all were being do helpful =)
17:08 <CoderForLife> do=so
17:08 <PovAddict> :P
17:08 <MTughan> At this point, I'd go on the hunt.
17:08 <CoderForLife> my PC is sitting here with it's tongue sticking out, with a DVD on it
17:08 <Romulus> Title: How to successfully burn or write an ISO-image to cd or dvd (at iso.snoekonline.com)
17:09 <MTughan> Oh, one based on SF.net...
17:13 * CoderForLife downloads burn4free
17:15 <xcamel> 'lo Don
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17:15 <xcamel> 'lo BB
17:15 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046
17:15 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.6°F / 2.0°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 23.36in / 791.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain...snow and isolated thunderstorms. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. Snow level 7000 feet. Near steady temperature in the mid 40s. South winds around 15 mph. ; Tonight - Snow showers...rain showers and isolated (2 more messages)
17:16 <BadBarbarian> 'lo xcamel
17:16 <BadBarbarian> &more
17:16 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: thunderstorms in the evening...snow and rain showers after midnight. Snow accumulation 2 to 4 inches. Snow level 7000 feet. Lows 27 to 33. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. ; Saturday - Breezy. Not as cool. Mostly cloudy. Snow and rain showers likely in the morning...a chance of rain and snow showers in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Snow level 6500 feet (1 more message)
17:16 <CoderForLife> hello Jay
17:16 <BadBarbarian> &more
17:16 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: increasing to 7500 feet in the afternoon. Highs 47 to 55. South winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent. ; Snow Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 6:00 AM MST on May 24, 2008;
17:16 <CoderForLife> nope - burn4free wants to install a toolbar in Firefox
17:16 * CoderForLife goes to find his Roxio install CD
17:17 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:22 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
17:22 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
17:22 <wdsmia> TGIF
17:22 <xcamel> TGIMDW
17:22 <jackygrahamez> &wx 86046
17:22 <wdsmia> indeed
17:22 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 37.4°F / 3.0°C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 23.36in / 791.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 5.4mph / 8.7km/h ; Rest of Today - Rain...snow and isolated thunderstorms. New snow accumulation around 1 inch. Snow level 7000 feet. Near steady temperature in the mid 40s. South winds around 15 mph. ; Tonight - Snow showers...rain showers and (2 more messages)
17:23 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011
17:23 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 71.2°F / 21.8°C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Saturday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. ; Saturday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. ;
17:23 <freelarry> arg - guess i'll try to repair windows
17:26 <freelarry> registry corrupted
17:27 <BadBarbarian> go to the backup reg
17:27 * CoderForLife crosses an elephant and a rhino
17:28 <Romulus> Sorry... what was wrong from you.
17:28 <freelarry> lol it still has the nv firewall in it so nope
17:29 <freelarry> CoderForLife is that a rhinfhant
17:29 <CoderForLife> elephino
17:29 <freelarry> ohh thought it had a sharp trunk
17:30 <CoderForLife> found my HP workstation CDs - no Roxio CD
17:31 <CoderForLife> onto Plan "S" - wait for Stephen to get homw
17:31 <CoderForLife> er home
17:31 <CoderForLife> he'll have some easy answer
17:32 <CoderForLife> or do it on one of his machines
17:33 * CoderForLife waits
17:35 <xcamel> chould have dl'd it to another linux box
17:36 <CoderForLife> no DVD burner there
17:36 <xcamel> pull it and install it temporary...
17:36 <xcamel> "hardswapping"
17:37 <CoderForLife> appreciate the advice - seems like a lot more work
17:37 <CoderForLife> then I have hardware and software problems
17:38 <xcamel> interesting, from the GWN:
17:39 <CoderForLife> Occam's Razor would say "UFO's", right??
17:40 <CoderForLife> really, the rings are probably Bush's fault
17:41 <jackygrahamez> he is a great scape goat
17:42 <CoderForLife> he hasn't aided his cause on a few issues
17:44 <jackygrahamez> I just hope he does not try to pull a Julieus Ceasar on us
17:45 <xcamel> the chinese water torture of liberalism...
17:48 <CoderForLife> curious expression - "pull a Julius Caesar"
17:48 <xcamel> I was thinking the same thing..
17:48 <xcamel> Marcus Tulius Cicero
17:49 <jackygrahamez> Use a war to claim imaginary emergency powers
17:50 <xcamel> hardly..
17:50 <CoderForLife> you've been sold some lines...
17:50 <jackygrahamez> Nightmare scenario
17:50 <xcamel> that was clinton's "wag the dog" sthick..
17:50 <CoderForLife> exactly
17:50 <xcamel> while monica was "wagging his dog"
17:51 <CoderForLife> heh
17:52 <jackygrahamez> My ritual of ridding my bicycle by the whitehouse and giving it the finger had a cathartic effect. I feel less anguish than I did 5 years ago moreover 8 years ago when he was selected by the supreme court
17:52 <xcamel> reflag US planes as "NATO", then bomb the s*it out of serbia, then erase all historical records of the war...
17:53 <jackygrahamez> A while ago I had a good impression of the Clintons, recent years I've been forced to re-evaluate
17:54 <CoderForLife> shouldn't have taken that long
17:55 <jackygrahamez> indeed
17:59 <CoderForLife> so - Stephen suggests DeepBurner
17:59 <CoderForLife> looking
18:01 <CoderForLife> running
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18:04 <CoderForLife> it doesn't work either - a Winduhs reboot is in order, per PovAddict's previous sugegstion
18:04 <CoderForLife> suggestion, even
18:06 <CoderForLife> bbiaf, hopefully
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18:11 <freelarry> humm machine going good on reinstall - so something was wrong with the settings after removing nv firewall
18:11 <freelarry> didn't allow a reinstall during the repair phase so hope its good
18:11 <freelarry> if not delete all and new install again
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18:24 <CoderForLife> somethin's awry - I can't get the DVD drive "ready" for any burn s/w
18:30 * freelarry knows the feeling CoderForLife looks like wipe drive and restart here too
18:37 <xcamel> uh..oh
18:38 <xcamel> seems that where the big earthquake hit in china...
18:38 <Romulus> I have 2008 Pro
18:39 <xcamel> was the same area where the chinese were doing extensive nuclear refining, plutonium refining, and research - and one of their big tous is now running out of control..
18:39 <xcamel> er big toys, even.
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18:57 <jackygrahamez__> &wx 20001
18:57 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Temperature: 70.5°F / 21.4°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Saturday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 70s. North winds 10 to 20 mph. ; Saturday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. North winds 10 to 15 mph. ;
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19:01 <CoderForLife> Chinese China Syndrome?
19:02 <CoderForLife> I got up at 3am, so I'm starting to feel a little "tired around the eyes". I'm going to go see if my F7 box will boot off this F9 install DVD, and call it an early evening.
19:03 <CoderForLife> cya folks soon
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19:05 <xcamel> laterz..
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19:06 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
19:07 <efc> Hey
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19:15 <efc> Its my Birthday, hurrray
19:17 <PovAddict> happy birthday!
19:17 <xcamel> +happy happy..
19:17 <PovAddict> you ain't tellin' your age I bet? :)
19:18 <efc> 29 :(
19:18 <MTughan> Turning 18 in ~2 months.
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19:18 <PovAddict> KathrynM says she's 29 too, and has been for a couple of years
19:19 <efc> Thats the way to do it
19:19 <efc> Or be born on Feb 29
19:19 <MTughan> lol
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19:21 <MTughan> lol
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19:26 <xcamel> hmmm.. I've been 29 for 20 years...
19:27 <MTughan> So 49?
19:28 <xcamel> 5th amendment...
19:29 <wdsmia> ditto
19:31 <PovAddict> so we'll tell you "happy half-century" next year? :P
19:31 <KathrynM> I heard that PovAddict
19:31 <PovAddict> KathrynM: so?
19:31 <KathrynM> :)
19:31 <Romulus> too bad for it
19:31 <KathrynM> I no longer age
19:32 <PovAddict> did I say you were...
19:32 <KathrynM> It's all in the kids imagination (especially the kids that call me Old Lady in Korean)
19:32 <PovAddict> lol
19:32 <PovAddict> yah it's all imagination
19:32 <PovAddict> and biological processes
19:32 <PovAddict> *runs*
19:33 * KathrynM throws a large brick at PovAddict
19:34 <xcamel> time and gravity get everybody eventually..
19:38 <MTughan> Oh, anyone know why someone would want a cordless trackball?
19:41 <PovAddict> or an optical keyboard
19:41 <PovAddict> XD
19:41 <PovAddict> "optical and cordless mouse and keyboard" oops
19:41 <MTughan> lol
19:41 <MTughan> Uses optical to see whether a key was pressed.
19:42 <MTughan> Damn, that'd be expensive...
19:43 <MTughan> Really cheesy thing at my school... Math awards are called the Penrose awards. Usually, they give us a pen and a rose.
19:43 <MTughan> This year, we got a pen, and a box of chocolates called Rosettes. xD
19:43 <PovAddict> mmm chocolates
19:44 <MTughan> Oh, those things...
19:45 <MTughan> Wow... Oil reserves in your backyard.
19:45 <MTughan> Does he get free oil? 'Course, he'd have to refine it to gas first...
19:46 <PovAddict> free gas yep
19:47 <PovAddict> he could get paid for his oil in both dollars and car fuel :)
19:47 <MTughan> True.
19:47 <MTughan> Helps with the way gas prices have spiked.
19:48 <MTughan> Just a few years ago, we were paying ~60 cents per litre of gas. Now we're up around $1.30 per litre.
19:48 <PovAddict> o.0
19:49 <MTughan> Exactly.
19:49 <PovAddict> heh, Rom posting an BOINC alpha build that doesn't work on his own machine :D
19:50 <KathrynM> lol
19:50 <Romulus> Title: Shadow Government Statistics » Alternate Data Series (at www.shadowstats.com)
19:50 <MTughan> Here we go... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gas_Prices_Medium_Term.png
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19:51 <MTughan> Hmm... That big spike in unemployment: is it just me, or does it look around 9/11?
19:54 <MTughan> Wow... According to Wikipedia, Venezuelans pay 17 cents US per gallon of gas...
19:59 <MTughan> WTF? "Advanced digital radio signal needs no line of sight and lets you work up to two metres from the receiver - through cups, piles of papers or the thickest sandwich"
20:00 <KathrynM> sandwich?
20:00 * KathrynM is back (gone 03:18:38)
20:00 <MTughan> From a wireless trackball description...
20:00 <MTughan> You're operating on a sandwich?
20:00 <PovAddict> mmm sandwich
20:01 * KathrynM is hungry
20:01 <KathrynM> bbiab... breakfast
20:01 * PovAddict wonders how he manages not to get fat
20:01 <jackygrahamez__> Do they have BBQ ribs in Korea?
20:01 <KathrynM> you can get them at TGIFriday
20:02 <jackygrahamez__> with a side of Kiamchi?
20:02 <PovAddict> especially considering how much excercise I do (not)
20:02 <KathrynM> If you asked, probably :P
20:02 <KathrynM> pizza comes with a side of pickles
20:02 <MTughan> Oh yeah... At a park near here, they have a "Rib 'n Roll" fest. Ribs from places around here with (often crappy) music. Really good ribs...
20:02 * KathrynM is jealous
20:02 <MTughan> And jackygrahamez__: That's kimchi.
20:02 <KathrynM> lol
20:02 * PovAddict is actually having weight problems...
20:02 <KathrynM> I knew what he meant
20:03 <PovAddict> not weighing *enough* for my height
20:03 * KathrynM wishes she had that problem
20:03 <MTughan> I've gotten used to a lot of these terms with a Korean around.
20:03 <PovAddict> lol
20:03 <KathrynM> I can send you some of my excess
20:03 <MTughan> PovAddict: Tell me about it. 5' 4" and around 205lbs.
20:03 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you're late for that, a few people already offered that
20:03 <MTughan> Doesn't help that I've been munching on chocolate...
20:04 <PovAddict> MTughan: metric plz
20:04 <MTughan> &math convert 205 pounds kg
20:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 92.98643585
20:04 <PovAddict> :o
20:04 <MTughan> &math convert 64 in cm
20:04 <Romulus> MTughan: 162.56
20:05 <jackygrahamez__> I'm on a diet, I'm aiming for negative pounds
20:05 <MTughan> lol
20:05 <PovAddict> ...so there's somebody *else* in queue to send me excess weight?
20:05 <MTughan> Sure.
20:05 <PovAddict> lol
20:05 * KathrynM will reveal she's 5'6''
20:05 <KathrynM> but that's it
20:05 <MTughan> You won't tell us you're 300 pounds? xD
20:06 <MTughan> jk
20:06 * PovAddict notes MTughan earned a kick
20:06 * PovAddict will brb
20:06 <KathrynM> in the balls
20:06 <MTughan> That's what's great about IRC!
20:07 <MTughan> You can make mildly crude jokes like that without much consequence.
20:08 <MTughan> No threats though, because IPs can be traced.
20:08 <PovAddict> yep
20:09 <PovAddict> that's why whoever finds a way to kick somebody in the balls over the Internet will be sooo rich
20:09 <KathrynM> lol
20:09 <MTughan> For a time. People will then go through anonymous gateways.
20:09 <MTughan> &google JAP
20:09 <Romulus> MTughan: Search took 0.13 seconds: Java Anonymous Proxy - JAP: <http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html>; JAP -- ANONYMITY & PRIVACY: <http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/mac/download_en.html>; Journal of Applied Physics: <http://jap.aip.org/>; Jewish-American princess - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish-American_princess>; Journal of Applied Physiology: (2 more messages)
20:10 <PovAddict> in many acses, those who deserve a ball-kick are also too stupid to use a gateway
20:10 <PovAddict> cases*
20:11 <MTughan> Fair enough.
20:11 <MTughan> I'm not. :D
20:11 <PovAddict> nope
20:11 <PovAddict> that's why when such kicking mechanism appears, we should kick you as many times as possible until you set up the gateway
20:12 <MTughan> Well, I'm not using one right now, because there is no way to deliver a physical kick in the balls over the Internet at this point.
20:12 <Romulus> Now clean this up"
20:12 <MTughan> Oh, I'd disconnect first.
20:12 <PovAddict> lol
20:12 * KathrynM laughts at rommie
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20:28 <jackygrahamez__> that is an interesting acronym
20:29 <jackygrahamez__> what if a young lady has shared japanese and jewish american decent?
20:30 <MTughan> In this case, it stands for Java Anonymous Proxy.
20:30 <MTughan> No, I'm not calling anyone a Jap.
20:31 <jackygrahamez__> that's good
20:42 <freelarry> only bad thing about complete reinstall is the reformat of hd
20:42 <freelarry> 92%done currently
20:42 <Tank_Master> fun stuff
20:43 <freelarry> yeah reading "going postal" by terry prachett while waiting
20:54 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
20:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 54.3°F / 12.4°C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.18in / 988.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy. Chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then chance of showers after midnight. Lows 50 to 56. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light. Chance of measurable precipitation 50 percent. ; Saturday - (2 more messages)
20:54 <Soul_keeper> mmmm rain
20:59 <efc> moo
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21:20 <freelarry> question -is the 64 bit windows version really compatible with both xp64 and vista?
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21:35 <Tank_Master> version of what?
21:35 <MTughan> I assume BOINC.
21:36 <Tank_Master> any progran should work on both (unless it is spifically changing the OS version and is writen my the programmer to only install on that particular OS)
21:36 <freelarry> boinc manager for windows i think 5.10.45?
21:36 <Tank_Master> checking*
21:36 <Tank_Master> yes
21:36 <Tank_Master> BOINC will run on both
21:37 <freelarry> was wondring as had a lot of system crashes while running on xp64
21:37 <freelarry> but not sure if boinc or the setup of windoze
21:37 <Tank_Master> its been stable on my server 2008 x64
21:37 <freelarry> dam crashed again during driver install
21:48 <efc> I'm putting xp (found a cd laying around) on an old box to see how I like it..
21:58 * Soul_keeper cringes
22:02 <efc> Seems ok, of course I never actually use that box for anything
22:02 <efc> if not for the quad core problems, you'd have to pry 2k out of my cold dead fingers
22:09 <PovAddict> freelarry: XP 64-bit isn't completely stable, *particularly* due to drivers
22:09 <PovAddict> Vista has way better 64-bit support
22:10 <PovAddict> ...or Linux ;)
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22:26 <freelarry> yeah M$ got more suppliers for vista but some are now supporting x64 also as people showed they weren't willing to change so fast
22:27 <freelarry> and of course my x64 is version 1.0 so have to get thru some headaches to get to updates
22:38 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Brainiac - How To Get Santa Out of Your Chimney (at www.youtube.com)
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23:02 <efc> Wish we got some wind here... turbines don't look too bad
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23:20 <Soul_keeper> if they stop this baseball game because it's raining i'm gonna flip
23:21 <Soul_keeper> baseball players will then be officially weaker than golfers
23:24 <efc> They usually do don't they?
23:33 <Soul_keeper> i guess, but it's weak
23:33 <Soul_keeper> that's why the terrorist see us as an easy target
23:34 <Soul_keeper> get a little water on us and we go home with our tail between the legs
23:34 <MTughan> Have you also considered what rain might do to the flight path of a baseball?
23:35 <Soul_keeper> add complexity where only the best team would win
23:35 <Soul_keeper> it don't stop football players ...
23:36 <MTughan> No, but that ball also has more mass.
23:36 <MTughan> And it's not being thrown at you at ~90mph.
23:36 <Soul_keeper> baseball still works in the rain regardless
23:37 <Soul_keeper> just my opinion on the matter
23:38 <MTughan> Yeah. It probably doesn't affect it much, but it could be enough.
23:38 <Soul_keeper> they get payed millions of dollars and they are scared of a little weather
23:38 <MTughan> Well, there is one thing: I don't blame them for not playing in lightning.
23:38 <Soul_keeper> lol i do
23:39 <PovAddict> whole new meaning to "strike"?
23:39 <MTughan> lol
23:39 <Soul_keeper> snow, rain, hail, dark, hot, etc. should all be fare game
23:39 <MTughan> Tornado?
23:39 <PovAddict> that's gray area
23:40 <Soul_keeper> lol
23:40 <Soul_keeper> you just gotta play thru it, that's the american way, tough it out
23:41 <MTughan> Apparently, it's not the American way if they stop.
23:41 <Soul_keeper> puljos broke our pitcher's nose the other day, and sprained our catcher's ankle
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23:42 <Soul_keeper> hit the ball right into his face
23:42 <Soul_keeper> then when he was coming home, ran the catcher over
23:42 <Soul_keeper> now that's baseball
23:43 <efc> Hey jackygrahamex__, have you looked into Ruthenium based water splitting?
23:43 <Soul_keeper> if you can't get out of the way, and get your nose broken that's cause you're weak and deserved it
23:43 <MTughan> Riiight...
23:43 <Soul_keeper> :)
23:43 <efc> Soul: heard about the people suing little league and louisville slugger for using aluminum bats cuz you can hit the ball too hard?
23:43 <MTughan> That's a really bad joke... In Audacity, for confirmation, you click a button that says "Audacious!"
23:44 <Soul_keeper> efc, yeah that's stupid liberals
23:44 <Soul_keeper> the same idiots that sue mccdonalds because the coffee is too hot, or the same ones that lobby government to card you to get a pack of matches at the gas station
23:44 <PovAddict> MTughan: see about box
23:45 <MTughan> That's where I was reminded of it.
23:45 <Soul_keeper> liberals
23:48 <MTughan> Yeah, I was updating my sister's computer and wondered if there was an update for Audacity, so I had to go to the about box. New minor version of the beta.