00:01 <freelarry> ah thought so bad sectors on the hd
00:06 <freelarry> will have to get another one tomorrow
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00:15 <Soul_keeper> buy me something too :)
00:17 <freelarry> lol - if i cant get a good message this time will have to try linux tools from f8 on the hd
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01:21 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046
01:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.4°F / 1.9°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 23.45in / 794.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8.1mph / 13.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Snow and rain showers. New snow accumulation 2 to 6 inches. Snow level 6500 feet. Lows 27 to 33. Southwest winds around 15 mph. ; Saturday - Breezy. Not as cool. Mostly cloudy. Snow and rain showers likely in the (2 more messages)
01:21 <BadBarbarian> &more
01:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: morning...a chance of rain and snow showers in the afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Snow level 6500 feet increasing to 7500 feet in the afternoon. Highs 47 to 55. South winds 15 to 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent. ; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of rain showers. Snow level 8500 feet. Lows 26 to 34. South winds (1 more message)
01:21 <BadBarbarian> &more
01:21 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the evening becoming light. ; Snow Advisory for Coconino County in effect until 6:00 AM MST on May 24, 2008;
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01:37 <freelarry> humm how do you convert kb to gb
01:38 <freelarry> &math 488375698/1024
01:38 <Romulus> freelarry: 476929.392578
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01:39 <freelarry> 500000000/1024
01:39 <zombie67> &math 500000000/1024
01:39 <Romulus> zombie67: 488281.25
01:40 <freelarry> you faster than i zombie67
01:41 <freelarry> thanks
01:41 <MTughan> What about...
01:41 <zombie67> copy/paste is a WAY better typist than I
01:41 <MTughan> &math convert 10 GiB KiB
01:41 <Romulus> MTughan: 10485760
01:41 <zombie67> MT!
01:41 <MTughan> I'm always on. Except when I'm asleep.
01:41 <zombie67> hows that GUI coming along?
01:41 <MTughan> Which I should be doing fairly soon.
01:41 <freelarry> thats what i was trying to remember
01:41 <MTughan> Oh, you mean the one on the laptop I don't have? :P
01:42 <zombie67> Wha?
01:42 <zombie67> again?!
01:42 <MTughan> My dad took away my laptop a while because of school.
01:42 <MTughan> while ago*
01:42 <Romulus> link to that thread
01:42 <zombie67> again or still?
01:42 <MTughan> Still.
01:43 <zombie67> wow. long punishment!
01:43 <zombie67> how are you on now?
01:43 <MTughan> Naw, just lots of big assignments in school.
01:43 <MTughan> Wha?
01:43 <zombie67> how are you on the computer now, if you are banned?
01:44 <MTughan> I'm not. I'm on Linux.
01:44 <zombie67> heh.
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01:44 <zombie67> okay, with your laptop verboten, what machine are you using now?
01:44 <MTughan> Well, that's annoying... If you haven't saved your file and you quit Blender, it doesn't save...
01:45 <MTughan> I have two machines, remember? A laptop, and a (now) 4 year old desktop.
01:45 <zombie67> oh. so then how is removing your laptop a punishment?
01:45 <MTughan> Because that was where most of my programming stuff was.
01:45 <zombie67> you have no backups?
01:45 <MTughan> Yeah.
01:46 <MTughan> Time Machine works fine.
01:46 <zombie67> So, what did you learn?
01:46 <zombie67> backup
01:46 <MTughan> I have backups.
01:46 <zombie67> then restore on your desktop
01:46 <zombie67> then carry on
01:46 <MTughan> This machine isn't running Mac OS X...
01:47 <MTughan> This is a PC I built myself 4 years ago.
01:47 <zombie67> so THAT is the REAL punishment
01:47 <MTughan> That I'm not on OS X?
01:47 <zombie67> he didn't remove HW or internet. He removed OSX!
01:47 <MTughan> And programming.
01:47 <zombie67> ;)
01:48 <zombie67> bastard
01:48 <zombie67> odd to remove something constructive
01:48 <zombie67> but i guess he thought it was the cause of ...whatever it was
01:49 <zombie67> just install osx on your desktop
01:50 <MTughan> Naw, I'm good. Linux is more powerful than OS X in quite a few ways.
01:50 <zombie67> linux...a pale version of unix
01:51 <zombie67> better tools, maybe, but more powerful?
01:51 <MTughan> You haven't tried Compiz then.
01:52 <zombie67> is that a tool?
01:52 <MTughan> Window manager.
01:53 <zombie67> there are many multi-window managers for all flavors of **nix
01:54 <zombie67> oh!
01:54 <zombie67> I remember seeing this with SUSE
01:54 <zombie67> a couple of years ago
01:54 <zombie67> nice effects.
01:54 <zombie67> but "power"?
01:56 <MTughan> More tools. Open source.
01:57 <zombie67> okay. I can accept that. more tools. but that doesn't make the OS more powerful...whatever that means too.
01:58 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm not quite sure either...
01:58 <MTughan> Although I have to say, Obj-C is easier to program in than C++. Even PovAddict can probably affirm that now. (He's in bed)
01:59 <zombie67> again, those are programming tools
01:59 <MTughan> At least with the APIs Apple provides. Whether Obj-C is easier than C++ in just the language is a personal choice.
01:59 <zombie67> the OS is the foundation. telecoms care about the OS
01:59 <MTughan> I like Obj-C myself, although I can easily do C++.
01:59 <zombie67> this i know very well
01:59 <zombie67> I know a bit of BASIC
02:00 <MTughan> Oh, where's that link...
02:00 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - CSI New York "VB GUI Interface" (at www.youtube.com)
02:01 <zombie67> i think i threw up in my mount a little bit
02:01 <MTughan> And FF crashed yet again... Must be about the 15th time now.
02:02 <zombie67> why is it the tv/movie folks can never seem to hire anyone who knows anything?
02:02 <zombie67> oh!
02:02 <MTughan> Problem isn't FF though. It's Flash.
02:02 <zombie67> do you remember jurassic park?
02:02 <MTughan> I've never seen it, but yes.
02:02 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Jur!@#ic Park - Unix System Scene (at www.youtube.com)
02:03 <zombie67> 12 year old kid..."it's a unix system! i know this!"
02:04 <zombie67> from 1993....
02:04 <zombie67> someone paid a LOT of money for that line....
02:05 <MTughan> Yes, and it has a 3D file browser. xD
02:05 <MTughan> 3D file browsers didn't come out until a few years ago, I think.
02:06 <zombie67> and the only "3D'" about is the graphic effects
02:07 <MTughan> That's still 3D. 3D doesn't mean smooth graphics, just means it looks like 3 dimensions.
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02:08 <zombie67> do you play Ikariam?
02:08 <MTughan> Never heard of it.
02:09 <Romulus> Title: Ikariam - The free browser game (at ikariam.org)
02:10 <MTughan> What about it?
02:10 <zombie67> a bunch of us over on ReiselSeive irc channel play on the Theta world
02:10 <MTughan> Ah...
02:10 <zombie67> building a city, colonies, plodering others
02:11 <zombie67> it's addictive... ;)
02:11 <MTughan> lol
02:12 <zombie67> you build up your city....learn more science...pillaging others...build a navy...
02:13 <zombie67> if you are interested, join the Theta world.
02:13 <MTughan> Naw.
02:13 <zombie67> also let me know so you can join a fun alliance
02:13 <zombie67> okay
02:13 <MTughan> I don't need another addition. :P
02:13 <MTughan> addiction*
02:14 * MTughan has been doing too much math over the past few days
02:15 <MTughan> But I got a pen and a box of chocolates for it. :D
02:15 <zombie67> sweet!
02:15 <zombie67> that was a double entendre!
02:15 <MTughan> Well, for math and computing contents I've done over the school year, but yeah.
02:16 <zombie67> so how can you be praised and reprimanded at the same time?
02:19 <MTughan> You're on the laptop again?
02:20 <MTughan> That was taken away a while ago because of philosophy and english, not math.
02:20 <MTughan> &math calc 61 / 66 * 100
02:20 <Romulus> MTughan: 92.4242424242
02:20 <MTughan> That much percent on a recent Calculus test.
02:20 <MTughan> Calculus is rather interesting, BTW. And useful.
02:22 <MTughan> But I have to be off to bed... 2:20AM here.
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02:31 <zombie67> gn
02:50 * Tank_Master slaps MTughan around a bit with a large trout
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06:19 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
06:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 50.5°F / 10.3°C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 70. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. ;
06:19 <CoderForLife> &more
06:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: That's all, there is no more.
06:19 <CoderForLife> good
06:20 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife
06:21 <CoderForLife> hello
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06:22 <CoderForLife> I'm trying to find a scenario where I can install F9 successfully
06:22 <KathrynM> I think I'm waiting until next weekend
06:23 <CoderForLife> can't use the DVD ISO on the target machine, because - while it has a DVD drive - it doesn't come up with a DVD driver, just CD
06:23 <CoderForLife> can't use the NET INSTALL ISO, because it segfaults when I tell it where the img files are
06:24 <KathrynM> someone on #fedora gave me this link
06:24 <Romulus> Title: Welcome Fedora Unity Spins (at spins.fedoraunity.org)
06:24 <CoderForLife> just downloaded the set of CD ISOs, checking the SHA1s
06:24 <Romulus> so i can almost hear your neighbors breathe.
06:24 <CoderForLife> depends on how heavy they're breathing, Rommie
06:26 <KathrynM> I've gone to far into geeky because I understand it
06:27 <CoderForLife> holey-schmoley - 21 CDs in Fedora 9 Everything
06:28 <KathrynM> 21?
06:28 <KathrynM> hope you got a whole spindle
06:29 <CoderForLife> I'm not doing that - just the 6 basic CDs
06:29 <CoderForLife> doing last SHA1
06:29 <CoderForLife> sky not so pink/purple this morning
06:29 <CoderForLife> still woke up at 3:30am
06:29 <CoderForLife> 3 hours ago
06:30 <KathrynM> I've been in and out of bed all day
06:30 <KathrynM> stupid migraine
06:30 <KathrynM> which is why fedora waits for next weekend
06:30 <CoderForLife> sowwy
06:30 <KathrynM> had to go to the docs today because i took my last imitrex last night
06:30 <CoderForLife> last SHA1 checks
06:30 <KathrynM> all pass?
06:30 <CoderForLife> yup
06:31 <KathrynM> time to start burning
06:31 <CoderForLife> I'll wait to burn them after the Sat AM errands
06:31 <KathrynM> what's on tap today?
06:31 <CoderForLife> post office, ga$ $tation, bank, store, McD's, home
06:32 <KathrynM> ga$ $tation indeed
06:32 <KathrynM> gas over 4 bucks?
06:32 <CoderForLife> backed off a little
06:32 <CoderForLife> dunno fer sure - will find out shortly
06:32 <KathrynM> heh... got a junk mail with the sender I'm Mike.Not Junk
06:33 <CoderForLife> I get 10 cents off per gallon using Kroger points
06:33 <KathrynM> every little bit helps
06:33 <CoderForLife> yes'm
06:34 <CoderForLife> also dl'd ubuntu desktop and server isos
06:34 <CoderForLife> need to check those also
06:34 <Romulus> to get back to my point is you don't need the decimal digits
06:35 <CoderForLife> they use md5 instead of SHA1
06:38 <CoderForLife> ubuntu 8.04 desktop checks
06:39 <CoderForLife> yes, what was your point, Rommie?
06:40 <KathrynM> Rommie had a point?
06:40 <CoderForLife> and ubuntu server checks out also
06:40 <CoderForLife> OK - time for the hunter/gatherer to go do so
06:41 <KathrynM> enjoy
06:41 <KathrynM> should be peaceful at this hout
06:41 <KathrynM> errrrrr hour
06:41 <CoderForLife> as if that were possible
06:41 <Romulus> is back (gone 02:36:34)
06:41 <CoderForLife> yeah - that's why I like to go early - not demolition derby in the lot with the cars, or in the store with the carts
06:41 <KathrynM> I hate grocery stores
06:42 <CoderForLife> they love my money - more all the time
06:42 <CoderForLife> I'm off
06:42 * CoderForLife waves his Kroger shoppng card
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07:09 <xcamel> 'lo
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07:28 <Didactylos> Does the Unicode collation sort abbreviations like Mc and St correctly?
07:32 <xcamel> dunno - never tried it
07:32 <Romulus> Please & thank you.
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07:47 <xcamel> &wx 12074
07:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 46.1°F / 7.8°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph...increasing to around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph this afternoon. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then clearing. Lows in the mid 40s. Northwest winds 10 to (1 more message)
07:47 <xcamel> &more
07:47 <Romulus> xcamel: 15 mph...decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight. ; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Northwest winds around 5 mph. ;
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08:46 <Didactylos> Rom just release a build that doesn't work for him. Why?!
08:49 <xcamel> which one?
08:49 <Romulus> Rumor has it which one is giving you headaches, xcamel
08:49 <xcamel> no - pollen is giving me headaches, Rom
08:49 <Romulus> says you da boss.
09:07 <xcamel> mighty quiet..
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09:17 <CoderForLife> back from the store
09:17 <CoderForLife> morning xcamel
09:17 <CoderForLife> hello jackygrahamez__
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09:52 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
09:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 60.6°F / 15.9°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.34in / 1027.3hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 6.2mph / 10.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 70. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 40s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Sunday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. East winds around 5 mph...becoming south in the afternoon. ;
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09:54 * CoderForLife prices a machine to act as a Windows Server 2003 domain controller for software development (compatibility)
09:54 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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10:00 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046
10:00 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 35.8°F / 2.1°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 23.51in / 796.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Today - Not as cool. Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of snow and rain showers. Little or no snow accumulation. Snow level 6500 feet increasing to 7500 feet in the afternoon. Highs 47 to 55. Light winds becoming south around 15 (1 more message)
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10:00 <BadBarbarian> &more
10:00 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: mph in the late morning and afternoon. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of rain showers. Snow level 8500 feet. Lows 29 to 35. South winds around 15 mph in the evening becoming light. ; Sunday - Not as cool. Partly cloudy. Highs 57 to 65. Light winds becoming south around 15 mph in the afternoon. ;
10:15 <CoderForLife> morning BadBarbarian
10:15 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
10:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 50.3°F / 10.2°C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of precipitation 50 percent. ; (2 more messages)
10:16 <wdsmia> &more
10:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: Tonight - Partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the lower 60s. Southeast wind 10 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 30 percent. ; Sunday - Partly sunny with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Warmer. High in the mid 80s. South wind (1 more message)
10:16 <wdsmia> &more
10:16 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. ;
10:16 <CoderForLife> morning SirDougOfIowa
10:16 <wdsmia> mornin Ohio
10:17 <CoderForLife> four-letter states are so cool
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10:20 <wdsmia> had to do some animal control last night around midnight
10:20 <wdsmia> woke up with a bat flying around the bed room
10:21 <ELGono> hehe ruby has a second nightlife?
10:22 <wdsmia> ruby would be easyer to catch
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10:37 <CoderForLife> hey ELGono
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10:55 <CoderForLife> ah - fresh set of F9 install CDs - bbl
10:56 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123
10:56 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 53.8°F / 12.1°C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Patchy fog early in the morning. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs around 70. Light wind becoming south 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and (1 more message)
10:56 <Tank_Master> &more
10:56 <Romulus> Tank_Master: thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows 50 to 55. South wind 5 to 10 mph. ; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the morning...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs 65 to 70. Light wind becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. ;
11:31 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Why'd you slap me half an hour after I left?
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11:59 * PovAddict slaps MTughan
12:00 <MTughan> You're a big help...
12:00 <PovAddict> MTughan: why can *I* affirm ObjC is easier than C++, if I don't know ObjC? :)
12:01 <Romulus> how old your parents if your cpus aren't 'balls to the wiki after you if you're logged in :)
12:01 <MTughan> Programming techniques and how Cocoa manages it. I thought you'd see it in the iPod touch.
12:01 <PovAddict> gotta go, again... see ya in 4 hrs
12:01 <PovAddict> I still didn't get into learning ObjC and UIKit :)
12:02 <MTughan> Oh well. Bye.
12:02 <PovAddict> bai
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12:13 <CoderForLife> damn Miranda bug
12:14 <CoderForLife> "hello Pov<tab>(HD rattle)(HD rattle)(HD rattle>["We're Sorry"]"
12:15 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict MTughan
12:16 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
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13:16 <xcamel> nothing like a couple hours beating up on the sat dish...
13:20 * freelarry or almost burning fingertips on chipset heatsink
13:20 <freelarry> guess aftermarket fan in order
13:22 * freelarry note to self just get ethernet working then dl sp2 for x64 to attmpt setup
13:22 <freelarry> getting tired of reinstalling x64 all the time during driver updates
13:46 * CoderForLife copies his F9 install DVD to the web server to try a network install, as the last resort
13:49 <CoderForLife> I am so cheap, that it costs me a lot of time trying to shoehorn these later OSes onto antique hardware
13:50 <CoderForLife> If I can get F9 on my backup server, then I'll only buy one new box today to run a Windows domain controller, else I'll buy 2 and use the second as my backup web server
14:02 <freelarry> yeah know that CoderForLife - thnk i have dual problem with new machine - hd keeps curpting info and chipset hs excessively warm
14:02 <freelarry> definitely will ned fan if going to use for crunching
14:03 <CoderForLife> aside from those 2 minor things...
14:04 <CoderForLife> my cheapness is expensive
14:04 * CoderForLife abandons copying the DVD, tries copying the CDs
14:06 * CoderForLife ejects CD 1, loads CD 2
14:12 * CoderForLife ejects 2, loads 3
14:12 <CoderForLife> so.. slow..
14:13 * CoderForLife watches as Windows vainly searches the Linux install CD for some kind of software to charge money for
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14:15 <Ageless93> building a TV-serving PC
14:24 <CoderForLife> we did that here just before the new BSG season started
14:24 <CoderForLife> tore down my OpenSuSE machine
14:31 <Ageless93> I'm hoping this system works as I'm slightly going mad without TV
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14:42 <Ageless93> Members of Russia's Communist Party are calling for a nationwide boycott of the new Indiana Jones movie, saying it aims to undermine communist ideology and distort history.
14:43 <yoyo[RKN]> lol
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15:28 <freelarry> &math convert 6 MiB KiB
15:28 <Romulus> freelarry: 6144
15:30 <freelarry> well CoderForLife i quess i'll dl f9 dvd and try to burn here also
15:30 <CoderForLife> Russians are complaining? Who's next? The Mayans??
15:30 <freelarry> of course
15:31 <CoderForLife> I'm throwing in the towel on my F7-to-F9 upgrade on the old box; about to order two new Dell machines
15:31 <freelarry> ahh well send the machnes hre then
15:31 <CoderForLife> which ones?
15:32 <freelarry> doing my last attempt at my new machine - if doesn't work then new parts time
15:33 <freelarry> i am going to push the store for a different hd tho as this one not good by chkdsk
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16:00 <CoderForLife> get a new brain for BabBarbarian while you're there, as it would appear
16:01 <Romulus> It may cause duplicate team names
16:01 <CoderForLife> s/Bab/Bad/g
16:19 <xcamel> bing/bang/boom
16:32 <xcamel> at least it warmed up a bit...
16:36 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: did you report that Miranda bug and whine about it?
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16:38 <CoderForLife> no PovAddict - I only cuss and wave my arms wildly as I run around the room
16:40 <xcamel> don't trip over something...
16:40 <PovAddict> that'll get it fixed quick :)
16:40 * CoderForLife wonders why linuxonline.biz doesn't have the 16 CD Fedora 9 Everything distro
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16:41 <xcamel> cfl - the active part of that front died out (too much cold air) - no worries now.
16:43 <CoderForLife> thx for the update Jay
16:43 <CoderForLife> did you listen to the link?
16:44 <CoderForLife> it wasn't on Rich's radar </pun>
16:45 <CoderForLife> ordered a couple of Dell machines today
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16:47 <PovAddict> Didactylos: we need a Trac template to say "this page was moved to mediawiki" and the link to the new page
16:47 <CoderForLife> nuthin' fancy - a couple of their "on sale" Vostro 200 mini-towers - $399 each including a 20" flat panel monitor with each
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16:48 <Didactylos> Shouldn't it be a redirect?
16:48 <CoderForLife> let's make it a toll gate
16:50 <PovAddict> redirects depend on nagging SOMEONE to tweak the server configuration... I'd rather not
16:51 <CoderForLife> on top of that, since Dell allows payment with multiple credit cards, I was able to finally use the $25 VISA debit gift card I got from w@#% last Christmas
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16:55 * Rookie_69 sticks his nose in tenetively and sniffs around.
16:56 <PovAddict> you're making us miss Spit_theDog...
16:57 <Rookie_69> We all miss Spit_theDog :-(
16:59 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
17:00 <xcamel> yo, yo.
17:00 <yoyo[RKN]> I try to compile a graphic app on Linux, but do not have a static libGLU?
17:00 <yoyo[RKN]> it is Suse Linux
17:10 * Rookie_69 goes and quietly hides in a corner because he doesn't know John Feces about that sort of thing.
17:12 <xcamel> good move..
17:12 <Rookie_69> Lol. Hi, Jay.
17:16 <xcamel> Hi Glenn
17:18 <Rookie_69> Your weather good today? I'm hoping for a nice tomorrow.
17:23 <Rookie_69> Stastically speaking, there is a fifty percent chance that Jay's weather today is going to be my weather tomorrow.That's better odds than the forecast.
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17:42 <CoderForLife> Dell is stupid
17:43 <CoderForLife> I used a $25 gift card on the order, since Dell supports 2 credit cards used in a transaction
17:43 <CoderForLife> They charged the card twice
17:43 <CoderForLife> First they charged it with $0.02, I guess to be sure the card existed
17:44 <CoderForLife> then they came through with a charge for $24.99, which was declined
17:44 <CoderForLife> my order is now hung on a credit card problem
17:45 * Rookie_69 doesn't own a valid credit card anymore :-S
17:45 * CoderForLife finishes his e-mail to Dell, since their credit department is closed for the holiday weekend
17:46 <CoderForLife> this was a gift card from w@#%
17:46 <CoderForLife> that I was excited to finally be able to use
17:46 <CoderForLife> $25 debit card
17:46 <CoderForLife> so Dell tries to charge $25.01 to it
17:46 <CoderForLife> idiots
17:46 <Rookie_69> Lol.
17:47 <Rookie_69> Sue the bastards!
17:49 <CoderForLife> I could become chairman of the board...
17:49 <CoderForLife> while HP claws their eyes out
17:49 <Rookie_69> ... or Bored man of the Chair...
17:50 <CoderForLife> you'd think they'd have this e-commerce thing figured out by now...
17:50 <CoderForLife> wait - didn't they *start* it??
17:50 <CoderForLife> hmm
17:52 <Rookie_69> They got your two cents... then blackballed you... They already have the other $24.98... Sounds good to me...
17:52 <CoderForLife> no - the $24.98 balance remains on the card
17:53 <Rookie_69> ... in Dell dollars...
17:55 <Rookie_69> Oh... Hi, Don.
17:55 <CoderForLife> Who did you think this was?
17:56 <Rookie_69> Don... I just forgot to say hi.
17:56 <PovAddict> lol
17:57 <CoderForLife> oh, ok, hi
17:57 <Romulus> took me several hours to get up and get enough of a statement.
17:57 <Rookie_69> Oh... belated Hi, Don.
17:57 <Rookie_69> :-)
17:57 <PovAddict> lol@romulus
17:57 <CoderForLife> even Rommie is slow
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17:58 <PovAddict> hey dizzie
17:58 <dizzie> Greetings
17:58 <PovAddict> according to Romulus, you've last been here a year ago!
17:58 <dizzie> And long time no see
17:58 <dizzie> No kidding :)
17:59 <xcamel> and salutations...
17:59 <CoderForLife> wow Hi Dizzie
17:59 <dizzie> Hello xcamel :)
17:59 <PovAddict> <Romulus> dizzie was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 23 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, 32 minutes, and 4 seconds ago
17:59 <dizzie> CFL :)
17:59 <xcamel> Hiya, Diz
17:59 <dizzie> What i missed ? =)
17:59 <CoderForLife> lol
17:59 <xcamel> &seen dizzie
17:59 <Romulus> xcamel: dizzie was last seen in #boinc 13 seconds ago: <dizzie> What i missed ? =)
17:59 <xcamel> oh whell
18:00 <Rookie_69> Nothing, really...
18:00 <CoderForLife> there was that Berlin Wall thing...
18:00 <dizzie> Guess i should start finding a boinc client to start with :)
18:00 <PovAddict> &linux
18:00 <Romulus> It has been said that linux is case sensitve, Kathryn and kathryn are as different as bob and kathRyn, PovAddict
18:00 <dizzie> Any recommendation for a duo core
18:01 <PovAddict> ugh
18:01 <PovAddict> &whatis linux
18:01 <Romulus> PovAddict: "linux" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_ubuntu_5.10.45_i686-pc-linux-gnu.sh
18:01 <CoderForLife> I have a recommendation: run boinc on it
18:01 <dizzie> Uhuh
18:01 <PovAddict> oh wait, you use ubuntu? you could apt-get it :) those packages are good nowadays
18:02 <dizzie> Apt-get! I prefer compile my stuff myself thanks :)
18:02 * CoderForLife loves the easy questions
18:02 <dizzie> Dont we all
18:03 <CoderForLife> a-yuppa
18:03 <PovAddict> well compiling the boinc client is relatively easy
18:03 <Rookie_69> 42!
18:03 <PovAddict> as for the manager...
18:03 * PovAddict looks at xcamel
18:03 <dizzie> I used to run the boinc client as a shell script, let alone fancy gui stuff :)
18:04 <dizzie> As for gui, CFL i take it you are using Vista ?
18:04 <PovAddict> step 1, get wxwidgets development stuff; step 2, prepare the appropriate sacrifices...
18:05 <dizzie> step 1.5 run it in a "screen"
18:05 * CoderForLife falls off his chair
18:06 <xcamel> the manager is working fine..
18:06 <CoderForLife> where'd you get the idea that I run Vista?
18:06 * Rookie_69 wonders how he even got BOINC to run under linux...
18:07 <CoderForLife> look - it's been a year, but I haven't lost my mind yet
18:07 <DerMeister> Well, installing wxWidgtes is quite easy... Although it takes some time...
18:07 <dizzie> Just a hunch
18:07 <dizzie> Vista is... Can i swear in here ? =)
18:07 <dizzie> *cough*
18:07 <xcamel> only at vista
18:07 <PovAddict> DerMeister: from xcamel's experience, looked like installing wxWidgets is easy and getting BOINC to compile with it is a pain
18:07 <PovAddict> but that was a while ago
18:07 <CoderForLife> the family filter has a Vista by-pass
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18:08 <dizzie> Vista is fine, if you like eyecandy at extraordinaire, and then some more
18:08 <PovAddict> not even then...
18:08 <xcamel> install wxw, and just download the prebuilt u-bunny graphic version.
18:08 <DerMeister> PovAddict: Well, I compiled 5.10 on linux (using the gentoo ebuild) and some versions from svn on windos - no problems on any platform there
18:08 <Romulus> or somehow sequester the oxygen
18:09 <CoderForLife> and slow performance, incompatible drivers, and answering hundreds of security queries
18:09 <PovAddict> if you want eye candy, get a compositing window manager, not Windoze Vista :)
18:09 <xcamel> vista sucks...
18:09 <wdsmia> asks xcamel to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
18:09 <Rookie_69> Composting Windoze?
18:09 <dizzie> I'm using Gnome2 atm :)
18:09 <CoderForLife> is that like a composting toilet?
18:10 <xcamel> looks better in KDE
18:10 <PovAddict> dizzie: your CTCP VERSION lies then? "xchat 2.8.4 Ubuntu"
18:10 <PovAddict> xcamel: running kubuntu with compiz here :)
18:10 <dizzie> xcamel, i donno by you, but a OS that "require" 512mb just to install, cant in my world be taken that serious
18:10 <xcamel> compiz on kde
18:10 <dizzie> PovAddict, lies?
18:11 <dizzie> I am in Ubuntu, and i am using Xchat
18:11 <PovAddict> dizzie: oh misread >_<
18:11 <CoderForLife> there are lies, damn lies and Microsoft
18:11 * dizzie hands PovAddict some fresh brewed coffee
18:11 <PovAddict> dizzie: silly me saw the 'g' and thought 'gentoo'
18:11 <dizzie> Gentoo is a filemanger on my FreeBSD box
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18:12 <dizzie> as for distro, try Sabayon
18:13 <dizzie> kubuntu, kde4?
18:13 * PovAddict should have installed /home/ in a separate partition...
18:13 <dizzie> kde4 is awesome
18:13 <PovAddict> no, kde3
18:13 <dizzie> a shame
18:13 <dizzie> upgrade to 4 :)
18:13 <PovAddict> hey first time I install a Linux desktop :P
18:13 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go sit with a couple of books and read for awhile
18:13 <CoderForLife> cya folks
18:13 <CoderForLife> wb dizzie
18:13 <dizzie> Enjoy CFL, and nice talking with you again :)
18:14 <CoderForLife> likewise
18:14 <dizzie> Thank you
18:14 * PovAddict thinks... now if only Spit came back too...
18:16 <PovAddict> I really should have installed /home in a separate partition so i could reinstall the OS or even change distro easily
18:17 * Rookie_69 puts incandescent bulb in bedside reading lamp and realizes that he's used flourescents for a few years now.
18:18 <PovAddict> using CFLs? :)
18:18 <dizzie> You can still fix it, by copy the entire /home dir to a newly mounted partition, then edit fstab, and reboot
18:18 <Rookie_69> Ow! Hot... and bright.
18:19 <MTughan> Halogens or incandescents?
18:19 <Rookie_69> Incandescent
18:19 * Rookie_69 needs to buy more tubes.
18:20 <MTughan> Buy compact fluorescents, as Pov said. CFLs.
18:20 <Rookie_69> CFL sells compact flourescents?
18:21 <MTughan> I was wondering when someone else would notice it...
18:21 <MTughan> CFL -> CoderForLife or Compact Fluorescent Light.
18:21 <Rookie_69> Lol.
18:21 <Rookie_69> Little spirally tubes.
18:21 <xcamel> led packs are safer
18:22 <MTughan> Those be them.
18:22 <MTughan> A 13W CFL gives roughly the same amount of light as a 60W incandescent.
18:22 <MTughan> &math convert 13 / 60 * 100
18:22 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: is not a valid unit.
18:22 <MTughan> &math 13 / 60 * 100
18:22 <Romulus> MTughan: 21.6666666667
18:23 <MTughan> Using 22% of the energy.
18:23 <Rookie_69> Don't know if I can handle led light... The mercury in flourescent lighting is bad enough.
18:23 * Rookie_69 ducks
18:23 <xcamel> the LED equiv would be 10.6W
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18:24 <xcamel> they are tuneable for color now...
18:24 <MTughan> So a little less. Although you can't really get pure white LEDs.
18:24 <MTughan> They always have a blueish hue.
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18:25 <xcamel> I work with the LRC at RPI - you would be amazed...
18:25 <MTughan> How expensive are they?
18:25 <xcamel> too expensive for the moment..
18:26 <MTughan> CFLs are a little more than incandescents.
18:26 <Rookie_69> One of the guys brought over a couple of books that are actually printed on paper, so I figured I should do something with my reading lamp.
18:26 <MTughan> Oh, those archaic printed books? xD
18:27 <xcamel> but the prices are coming down, and the LED's will retain the same color for 100's of thousands of hours
18:27 <Rookie_69> Papryus, I think...
18:27 <MTughan> Yeah. They'll kill incandescents and fluorescents at some point, but not within the next two years.
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18:28 <MTughan> Rookie_69: I've got probably about 50 books upstairs.
18:28 <xcamel> so the cost of the lamp is super cheap considering how long it will last..
18:28 <MTughan> But it's dinnertime...
18:28 <MTughan> xcamel: Tell that to consumers. They want instant prices, not long term prices.
18:28 <MTughan> Anyway, bbl.
18:28 <BB_Work> howdy all
18:28 <xcamel> 'lo BB
18:28 <BB_Work> &wx 86023
18:28 <Romulus> BB_Work: Temperature: 51°F / 10.6°C | Humidity: 57% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A chance of rain showers early in the evening...a slight chance of rain showers in the late evening and overnight. Lows around 29 on the North Rim to around 52 along the Colorado River. Southwest winds around 15 mph in the evening (2 more messages)
18:29 <BB_Work> 'lo xcamel
18:29 <BB_Work> &more
18:29 <Romulus> BB_Work: becoming light. Chance of showers 30 percent. ; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Highs around 50 on the North Rim to around 78 along the Colorado River. Light winds becoming south around 15 mph in the afternoon. ; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly cloudy. Lows around 33 on the North Rim to around 56 along the Colorado River. (1 more message)
18:29 <BB_Work> &more
18:29 <Romulus> BB_Work: Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph in the evening becoming light. ;
18:30 <Rookie_69> Working sucks.
18:30 <wdsmia> asks Rookie_69 to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
18:30 <Rookie_69> working on a saturday sux more.
18:31 <Rookie_69> Working this late on a saturday is absolutely horrible.
18:32 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: "work" is a censored word here
18:32 * Rookie_69 uses dirty words... Just ask wdsmia...
18:35 <BB_Work> me too
18:40 * wdsmia asks Rookie_69 to take a long walk off a short peer... Thanks, your frindly channel op.
18:40 * Rookie_69 wonders if wdsmia is his short peer...
18:41 * Rookie_69 forgets how talll wdsmia is.
18:41 <Rookie_69> ... tall...
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18:45 <Rookie_69> Oh... Pier. Splash!
18:45 <dizzie> My old team seems dead, who want me and my credits ? =)
18:45 <Romulus> where is mweltin when you talk - I'll give him another injection
18:46 * KathrynM is back (gone 11:10:39)
18:46 <dizzie> Mmmm public away ;)
18:46 * Rookie_69 hates the English language except when it works in his advantage.
18:46 * KathrynM hates the English Language M-F
18:46 <KathrynM> It's OK on the weekends
18:46 <Rookie_69> Lol. Hi, K.
18:46 <KathrynM> moanin everyone
18:47 <dizzie> Greetings Kathryn :)
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18:47 <KathrynM> Hi dizzie. I don't believe we've met.
18:48 <dizzie> No we dont, and i admit i havent been running boinc for like 1? year or so. I thought people had forgot me here, but i wasnt that lucky ;)
18:48 <Rookie_69> Dizzie was here once or twice before.
18:48 <Rookie_69> Hi, Eddie.
18:48 <dizzie> Silly bot, go shuddup :)
18:48 <KathrynM> You can checkout any time you like,
18:48 <KathrynM> But you can never leave!
18:48 <dizzie> &dizzie
18:48 <Romulus> dizzie is in Ubuntu, and i am using Xchat, dizzie
18:49 <dizzie> No kidding :)
18:49 <dizzie> No one wants me and my credits, and my old team is "dead"
18:49 <dizzie> I guess i could go solo then :P
18:49 <PovAddict> TFFE maybe
18:50 <Rookie_69> Who?
18:50 <KathrynM> TFFE of course
18:50 <KathrynM> We take all the nuts
18:50 <dizzie> Mhm
18:50 <Rookie_69> What's a Tuffie?
18:50 <KathrynM> someone who has survived the nurses
18:50 <Rookie_69> Oh... a bunch of nuts.
18:50 <efc> Moo
18:50 <dizzie> Not the nurses!
18:51 <dizzie> Hey efc :)
18:51 <PovAddict> KathrynM: I asked Romulus right after dizzie joined
18:51 <Rookie_69> !ooM
18:51 <PovAddict> KathrynM: <Romulus> dizzie was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 23 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours ago
18:51 <dizzie> Lies!
18:52 <dizzie> Dont believe that silly bot :)
18:52 <KathrynM> yeah, I've een here less than a year
18:52 <KathrynM> Feels like a decade tho
18:52 <dizzie> KathrynM, i been running seti/boinc since 2002 :)
18:52 <PovAddict> we make it seem long, like torture? :P
18:52 <KathrynM> heh
18:52 <KathrynM> torture is reading the writng the kids do
18:53 <KathrynM> and even worse that the teachers do
18:53 * Rookie_69 has been a masochist for four years or so.
18:53 <PovAddict> KathrynM: how long BOINCing?
18:54 <KathrynM> 3 years in october
18:54 <KathrynM> did a bit of Seti classic at the beginning, but got bored with it
18:54 * PovAddict checks seti website
18:54 <PovAddict> 30 Mar 2005
18:55 <KathrynM> 15 Oct 2005
18:55 <Rookie_69> 29 May 2003
18:55 <PovAddict> when I found about SETI@Home, they already had a big scary notice on the download page telling you not to get that, but to go to boinc website instead
18:55 <KathrynM> I started at E@H and Rosie
18:55 <KathrynM> I mean I started back in what, 97? 99? with classic
18:56 <KathrynM> seti specializes in big scary notices
18:59 <dizzie> My first pc i ran seti on was a 233mhz :p
18:59 <dizzie> Took a while for a unit hehe
19:00 * Rookie_69 wishes he had someone else's back, knees, ankles, etc.
19:00 <PovAddict> 400mhz here, I think
19:00 <dizzie> Been at work for 14 hours today, you sure you want my back ? =)
19:01 <PovAddict> hmm actually I think I attached the P4 first, *then* the old 400mhz
19:01 <dizzie> Earned 400$ though
19:01 <dizzie> I still got my old P233 :p
19:01 <PovAddict> I'll have your money, Rookie_69 can have your back
19:01 <dizzie> PovAddict, only if you can withstand what i did at work :p
19:01 <Rookie_69> I was watching Cosmos and a S@H screensaver came up with the name Carl on it... ~300? hours to completion?
19:02 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: wut
19:02 <PovAddict> 300hrs on SETI?
19:02 <PovAddict> wtf
19:02 <KathrynM> lol sounds like astropulse
19:02 <Romulus> hates MS for some reason.
19:02 <KathrynM> don't we all rommie
19:02 * dizzie pats Romulus
19:02 * KathrynM loves her Fedora
19:03 <dizzie> I think i had Windows for like 25min on this laptop
19:03 <dizzie> Or was it that long?
19:03 <dizzie> Hehe
19:03 <Rookie_69> SETI classic... beta? Carl Sagan in 1979 or 1980???
19:03 <KathrynM> for school my brother had to put windows on his new macbook
19:03 <KathrynM> he almost died
19:03 <dizzie> KathrynM, Fedora9 ?
19:03 <KathrynM> F7 still
19:03 <KathrynM> gonna upgrade my other machine to F8
19:03 <KathrynM> maybe
19:04 <KathrynM> it's such a chore to do that machine because of the stupid ati chipset
19:04 <KathrynM> F7 works. No need to upgrade the daily driver
19:04 <dizzie> Fedora9 lived for 20 min here, until i found out that the mm codecs costed £ to download/use..
19:04 * PovAddict installs sl
19:04 <dizzie> sl?
19:04 <Rookie_69> Episode 13, anyways.
19:06 <PovAddict> dizzie: makes you notice when you mistype ls
19:06 <dizzie> ls -l
19:06 <PovAddict> sl - display animations aimed to correct users who accidentally enter sl instead of ls.
19:06 <PovAddict> -l shows little one.
19:06 <dizzie> Hehe
19:06 <dizzie> ls -la
19:06 <PovAddict> -F It flies.
19:07 <PovAddict> -a An accident seems to happen. Youâ€™ll feel pity for people who cry for help.
19:09 <dizzie> *notes to self* Check volume BEFORE hitting "play" in Rythmbox !
19:10 <dizzie> 1am here mind you ;)
19:11 <Rookie_69> Volume automatically resets itself to too high or too low...
19:15 * Rookie_69 buggers off to bed.
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19:51 <CoderForLife> did someone equate me to a lightbulb?
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19:52 <CoderForLife> Maybe "Canadian Football League", MTughan
20:00 <CoderForLife> since we were doing seti comparisons, my seti date is 14 May 1999
20:00 <Tank_Master> my start date for SETI is 01-01-01
20:01 <Romulus> doesn't see that and it blocked me :E
20:01 <CoderForLife> binary?
20:01 <Tank_Master> Jan 1st, 2001
20:01 <CoderForLife> =)
20:01 <CoderForLife> I thought you were sending a signal to E.T.
20:02 <Tank_Master> lol
20:02 <Tank_Master> no, I havent got their area code so I can phone them
20:03 <CoderForLife> I imagine their surveillance program has that covered
20:05 * CoderForLife drags himself away, bed-ward
20:05 <Tank_Master> gn
20:05 <CoderForLife> gn folks
20:06 * CoderForLife waves his "Resist The Greys" t-shirt
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20:50 <efc> moo
20:51 <Soul_keeper> gettum efc gettum !!!
20:51 <efc> WhereWhereWhere ?
20:53 *** Ageless93[Away] is now known as Ageless93
20:53 * Ageless93 is no longer away : Gone for 6 hours 10 minutes 40 seconds
20:53 <Ageless93> the tv serving PC works great
20:54 <Ageless93> if only it would remember that a TV is connected... now everytime I reboot I have to hook my monitor on first. But that's something for tomorrow. Just watched Die Hard 4.0 without stutters. yay!Q
20:56 <Ageless93> now I just need some 15 meters of network cable and it's finished.
20:57 * efc needs to burn off some more fat
21:03 <Ageless93> is WCG down again?
21:03 <Tank_Master> WCG is never down
21:04 <Ageless93> lol, you sure? it isn't loading either.
21:04 <Tank_Master> its the highest uptime of any project
21:05 <Ageless93> it's had some down time the past couple of weeks though. Forums and main site. But okay, it took a while and it's now loaded.
21:05 <Soul_keeper> wcg works here
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23:49 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
23:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 61.6°F / 16.4°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Clear. A 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Warmer. Low in the lower 60s. Southeast wind 10 to 20 mph. ; Sunday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then showers (2 more messages)
23:49 <wdsmia> &more
23:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Warmer. High in the mid 80s. South wind around 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 60 percent. ; Sunday Night - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall in the evening. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall after midnight. Low in the mid 60s. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
23:49 <wdsmia> &more
23:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: precipitation 70 percent. ; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 7:00 AM CDT on May 26, 2008;
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