IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-05-25

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00:16 <efc> I had a weird dream in which I set up my 386SX in SLI mode

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00:40 <PovAddict> wb K

00:52 <KathrynM> thx

00:57 <PovAddict> how do people manage to ever stay awake for days?

00:58 <KathrynM> on purpose?  no idea

00:59 <PovAddict> I once reached 18 hours awake... that's pretty much my record

01:00 <KathrynM> it sucks when you have insomnia

01:00 <wdsmia> asks KathrynM to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

01:00 <KathrynM> but at least we now have the interent to amuse us

01:00 <PovAddict> and lately I can't manage to sleep for 8 hours...

01:00 <PovAddict> I always sleep more *and* still feel tired

01:01 <KathrynM> quantity != quality

01:01 <efc> mine seems to be permanently messed up

01:01 <PovAddict> well I can't avoid getting confused:

01:02 <PovAddict> parents: it's midnight, go to sleep already!

01:02 <PovAddict> myself: hmm it's 2 am, I should go to sleep

01:02 <PovAddict> friends: what, you never stayed *all* night?

01:02 <KathrynM> the only thng that matters is what your body is teeling you

01:03 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

01:03 <KathrynM> and obviously I need to learn how to type

01:03 <Soul_keeper> i thought you taught english :)

01:04 <PovAddict> my body is telling me to go to sleep instead of writing about my f*cked up sleep pattern

01:04 <KathrynM> so go to sleep, damn it

01:04 <PovAddict> lol

01:04 <KathrynM> I teach English, not how to type English

01:05 <PovAddict> some english teachers would panic in front of a keyboard so...

01:05 <KathrynM> lol

01:06 * PovAddict will go to sleep and leave his iPod charging, so he can't get online from bed

01:06 <KathrynM> good idea

01:07 <PovAddict> I was once like... writing "parental controls"...

01:07 <PovAddict> to control myself... >.<

01:07 <KathrynM> lol

01:07 <PovAddict> it's hard to make a lock that *I* can't unlock

01:15 <efc> i would get my nights and days flipped pretty bad if I didn't have to go to work

01:15 <efc> even so its bad

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01:29 <Tank_Master> g boomies out there

01:29 <Tank_Master> big*

01:32 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

01:32 <Tank_Master> &more

01:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

01:32 <Tank_Master> &more

01:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

01:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 60.4F / 15.8C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. A scattered thunderstorms in the evening... then a chance of showers after midnight. Lows 50 to 55. Light wind. ; Sunday - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers in the morning... then a chance of showers and a (1 more message)

01:32 <Tank_Master> &more

01:32 <Romulus> Tank_Master: slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs around 70. Light wind becoming west 5 to 10 mph in the afternoon. ; Sunday Night - Cloudy with a chance of showers. Lows 50 to 55. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph. ; Areal Flood Advisory for Washington County in effect until 1:15 AM PDT on May 25, 2008;

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01:37 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

01:37 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 37.4F / 3.0C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 23.56in / 797.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 4.9mph / 7.9km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 10 percent chance of rain and snow showers early in the evening. Patchy dense fog in the late evening and overnight. No new snow accumulation. Snow level 8500 feet. Lows 30 to 38. Light winds. ; (1 more message)

01:37 <BadBarbarian> &more

01:37 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Sunday - Not as cool. Mostly cloudy in the morning...partly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of rain showers in the afternoon. Snow level above 9000 feet. Highs 54 to 62. Light winds becoming south 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon. ; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 33 to 41. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph in the evening becoming light. ;

01:37 <efc> moo BB

01:37 <BadBarbarian> Moo efc

01:38 <efc> hey BB, you got any wind out there?

01:38 <BadBarbarian> no

01:38 <efc> Same as here

01:38 <BadBarbarian> snow but no wind

01:39 <efc> Wind turbines a lot cheaper than solar in this catalog, but just not an option

01:40 <BadBarbarian> lol i bought a truck load of them used from the air force

01:40 <efc> Cool

01:41 <BadBarbarian> i can get about 18.000 watts at noon i dont have them on turning mounts

01:41 <efc> 18 watts? Hmm

01:42 <efc> More than we ever get though

01:42 <BadBarbarian> opps 18,000

01:42 <Tank_Master> heh

01:42 <Tank_Master> snow

01:42 <BadBarbarian> i have 30 4X8 panels

01:42 <efc> Oh yeah, I'll take that

01:43 <Tank_Master> we are havin a grand ol' timer here

01:43 <Tank_Master> lots of rain and lightning

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01:45 <efc> We had a good one earlier

01:46 <Tank_Master> damn muggy now

01:47 <efc> You must be near TX ? or Wis/MN ?

01:47 <Tank_Master> OR

01:48 <efc> Hmm, no strikes on the light-dar

01:48 <Tank_Master> by portland?

01:48 <efc>

01:48 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at

01:51 <Tank_Master> cant tell when it was last updated

01:53 <efc> not sure but in the last few min

01:53 <efc> But not a lot of sensors around there

01:54 <efc> Enough, I'd think, maybe their squelch is high

02:00 <Tank_Master> its stoped raining now

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05:31 <dizzie> Morning.

05:31 <Tidus> g'mornin

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05:43 <CoderForLife> morning dizzie Tidus quail

05:45 <dizzie> Goodmorning CFL.

05:45 <dizzie> Now if only the damn coffeemachine would brew faster!

05:46 <dizzie> I disbanded my old team and joined TFFE, i hope thats okay? :)

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05:52 <CoderForLife> welcome to the TFFE chaos^H^H^H^H^Hclub!

05:53 <Tidus> *yawn*

05:54 <freelarry> welcome dizzie

05:54 <freelarry> morn CoderForLife and Tidus

05:55 <CoderForLife> morning freelarry

06:02 <freelarry> morn don writing the fedora9 dvd currently ;)- still working on nw box tho ;( if it doesn't start acting right will end up trying fedora 9 on it instead

06:03 <freelarry> at least chkdsk didn't find anything wrong with this disk

06:04 <Tidus> i'm tryin to get gentoo linux going on my athlon64

06:04 <Tidus> it's bein finicky but still stable

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06:05 <dizzie> Woohoo segfault :)

06:05 <Tidus> lol

06:05 <dizzie> Hehe

06:05 <Tidus> that's one thing i haven't seen in a while...

06:05 <dizzie> Try it !

06:05 <CoderForLife> I ordered new hardware yesterday - I've taken the old box too far too long

06:05 <dizzie> Tis fun :)

06:05 <Tidus> except for a few minutes ago when wine segfaulted in the middle of playing WoW

06:06 <dizzie> WoW player too :)

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06:06 <dizzie> I cant let that game go, i tried :)

06:06 <Tidus> lol?

06:06 <Romulus> lol is it the size of those pills i've been taking for this cold, Tidus

06:06 <positron2007> Hello! I can't create an account in any project :(

06:07 <positron2007> I was interested in SETI mostly

06:07 <Tidus> dizzie: is it safe to PM you?

06:07 <dizzie> Ofcause

06:07 <positron2007> But now it disappeared from the list

06:08 <positron2007> I think the page has a bug

06:11 <KathrynM> what list positron2007 ?

06:12 <positron2007> KathrynM,

06:12 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats/BAM! | Sign-up for projects (at

06:12 <KathrynM> sorry, I don't use BAM to manage my stuff.

06:12 <positron2007> I tried other projects too

06:12 <KathrynM> Maybe post on their forums?  The folks there are pretty helpful.

06:13 <positron2007> Does it take very long?

06:13 <positron2007> Never posted in any forum

06:13 <positron2007> All right, thanks

06:13 <positron2007> KathrynM, but can you go there and see if it works for you the SETI project?

06:14 <KathrynM> give me a sec

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06:15 <Ageless93> when you're signed up for Seti already, it no longer shows in the other list.

06:16 <Ageless93> if you go to your projects list, select Seti for removal and update, it's back in the sign up list

06:16 <positron2007> Let me try

06:16 <Ageless93> same thing goes for any other project you want to crunch

06:17 <positron2007> Ahh

06:17 <positron2007> Didn't see that link

06:17 <positron2007> Yes, all projects are there

06:17 <positron2007> How do I use boinc now to do the work?

06:18 <Ageless93> hopefully you're not attached to any project in BOINC? Else there's trouble.

06:18 <Ageless93> if you aren't, open BOINC Manager->Advanced view->Tools->Attach to account manager

06:19 <positron2007> No, just SETI, SHA-1 and Spinhenge

06:19 <Ageless93> and fill in the URL to BAM

06:20 <positron2007> Which URL?

06:20 <Ageless93> 'if you attached to any project you now want the AM to 'serve' you with, you'll be detached. So watch out on that.

06:20 <freelarry> well looks like dvd burn correctly but will leave alone for now

06:21 <Ageless93> the URL to BAM is

06:21 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at

06:22 <dizzie> Ok, who nicked my coffee !

06:22 <freelarry> but for sign up to use bam account its

06:22 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at

06:22 <freelarry> from manager that is

06:22 <Ageless93>

06:22 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats/BAM! | Attaching to BAM! (at

06:22 <positron2007> I did sign up but it's not working :(

06:23 <Ageless93> no... I used the wrong URL, but then again... look above for the correct one, or follow the instructions page at BAM

06:24 <positron2007> Even using the instructions page

06:24 <Ageless93> what (error) message do you get in your messages tab?

06:25 <positron2007> None

06:25 <Ageless93> you did fill in your username and password, didn't you? not your email address and password?

06:25 <positron2007> I'm using Gentoo

06:25 <positron2007> I did

06:25 <positron2007> I think there is a version for kde

06:25 <positron2007> Let me try

06:26 <Ageless93> well, post about it on their forums then. There's bound to be someone who knows how to do it.

06:26 <Ageless93> this isn't exactly #bam

06:26 <Ageless93> ;)

06:27 <positron2007> Oh

06:27 <positron2007> Thanks

06:35 * freelarry tries to remembrr using boincmanger - attach using account manager - - bam username and password for bam account that was all

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06:47 <positron2007> Ageless93, if it's not too trouble, I fixed one problem, I didn't know I had to start the daemon but now I'm having problems again with bam, it says: Account manager update failed: unexpected XML tag or syntax, I think the problem is in the URL but I tried every possible combination

06:49 <positron2007> And the link you gave was right, the one in the instructions page gives error saying to check the URL and try again

06:51 <Ageless93> I really haven't a clue. I don't use BAM either. the error points to a bad tag in one of the XML files.

06:52 <Ageless93> if it's one that BAM needs, I would put it on their forums at

06:52 <Romulus> <> (at

06:57 <chanueting> I am new to BOINC, I have installed the program, but it seems that there is only one project running, is it normal?

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06:58 <TheGasGiant> howdy boincers

06:58 <KathrynM> chanueting, what kind of computer is it?

06:58 <KathrynM> heya Paul

06:58 <Ageless93> hide your children, the Gas Giant is here!

06:59 <TheGasGiant> heya KathrynM and Jord :)

06:59 <chanueting> what "kind"? OS, processor, or etc?

06:59 <KathrynM> processor

06:59 <Romulus> I thought they were registered

06:59 <TheGasGiant> i'll just lurk for a bit

06:59 <chanueting> x86

06:59 <KathrynM> how many cores?

07:00 <chanueting> one

07:00 <KathrynM> then you should see only one task running at any one time

07:00 <KathrynM> so all is normal

07:01 <chanueting> I see, but there is no mulit-tasking?

07:01 <Ageless93> and if you only attached to one project, then it's normal as well.

07:01 <chanueting> I attach six projects

07:02 <Ageless93> you must attach to other projects to get other work. BOINC doesn't auto-attach you to all projects out there (thank god as there's some 80+ now)

07:02 <Ageless93> you attached to 6 projects. Which ones? Which one has given you the active task?

07:04 <chanueting> I have made a test, once I suspend one, and the other would get work. In present, the is working.

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07:05 <Ageless93> climateprediction models take upwards of 3 months to finish on their own. It's not a project you want to crunch on a single CPU system combined with other projects, especially not when you just started with BOINC.

07:05 <TheGasGiant> if you suspend one then boinc will ignore that project and not take the work it has in its cache and potentially get more work than can be completed before the wu deadline

07:06 <TheGasGiant> take its work into account when calculating how much work it should have said

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07:07 <chanueting> then which project should I join?

07:07 <Ageless93> as I asked, which projects are you attached to already?

07:07 <Ageless93> besides CPDN

07:09 <chanueting> Rosetta, SETI, ABC, Einstein and Predictor

07:10 <TheGasGiant> dump predictor...   ;)

07:12 <chanueting> I don't know lots about them, I just BOINC to fully utilize my bandwidth

07:12 <chanueting> and CPU clock

07:14 <Ageless93> um well, Predictor is out of work for the moment and unknown when it will have work again.

07:14 <Ageless93> so why not also attach to WCG, that's World Community Grid. It has 6 (?) separate projects you can crunch for.

07:14 <TheGasGiant> any project is good really...I Just Don't Like Predictor - due to past issues with that project and its admin.

07:14 <Ageless93> if that doesn't keep your CPU busy, then nothing will. ;)

07:15 <dizzie> Holy s...

07:15 <dizzie> TGG !

07:15 <dizzie> :)

07:15 <TheGasGiant> i think CPDN, seti, rosetta etc will keep the cpu busy :)

07:15 <Ageless93> Paul, get a grip. there's nothing wrong with Predictor... :)

07:15 <TheGasGiant> heya dizzie...WTF!

07:15 <TheGasGiant> lol.....just it's admi

07:15 <TheGasGiant> n

07:16 <dizzie> Sorry... i grab my coat and leave

07:16 <dizzie> ;)

07:16 <TheGasGiant> hehehe

07:16 <Ageless93> without David there would be no Predictor, a simple thing lots of people seem to forget.

07:17 <TheGasGiant> well, he has an ego the size of Mt Everest and an go f..k you attitude to go with it

07:17 <Ageless93> Just like any other project out there, I would think.

07:17 <chanueting> My school is working for that...

07:17 <TheGasGiant> nah...MalariaControl.Net has good folks

07:18 <Ageless93> until something big happens there and the comms fall down... any day now. ;)

07:18 <chanueting> Anyway, thanks, I need to get back to work now.

07:18 <TheGasGiant> lol...just like the recent lost credit issue...we're all grown ups!

07:19 <Ageless93> for comparison, the same thing was said about Cosmo, Milkyway, Orbit, Hydrogen... until the admin stopped talking due to personal reasons... lol

07:19 <TheGasGiant> k.... chanueting..keep well

07:19 <chanueting> I hope so

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07:23 <dizzie> Btw TGG

07:24 <dizzie> My old team was dead, so i joined TFFE, i hope thats okay ? =)

07:24 <TheGasGiant> yeah dizzie?

07:24 <TheGasGiant> problems at all!

07:24 <dizzie> You sure ? =)

07:24 <TheGasGiant> more team members the better!

07:25 <TheGasGiant> except for a couple of people......but you're not one of them :)

07:25 <dizzie> I have to improve then :)

07:26 <TheGasGiant> we only accept the finest individuals.....   :)

07:27 <dizzie> Hrm, and that includes me?

07:27 <dizzie> Gee :)

07:28 <TheGasGiant> all team members are fine :)

07:33 <TheGasGiant> &weather ymml

07:34 <Romulus> TheGasGiant: Temperature: 55°F / 13°C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 9:00 PM EST; Chance of Rain. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:46 (1 more message)

07:34 <TheGasGiant> getting cool....

07:34 <dizzie> 15c here :)

07:35 <TheGasGiant> a heat wave

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07:45 <dizzie> Had 32c 10 days ago :)

07:46 <TheGasGiant> pretty hot for your neck of the woods

07:47 <dizzie> Aye ;) but it was nice

07:48 <TheGasGiant> humid?

07:48 <dizzie> It was hot, and not bad

07:48 <dizzie> I even got a little tan :)

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07:49 <Romulus> CoderOnTheCouch: Two things for you.

07:49 <TheGasGiant> LOL....not pastey white anymore?

07:49 * KathrynM realizes her external backup drive is a complete unorganized mess

07:49 * KathrynM is also too tired to do anything about it tonight.

07:50 <dizzie> Never been pasty white, i do get outdoors :)

07:50 <KathrynM> pasty white...  my specialty

07:50 <KathrynM> either that or fiery red

07:50 <TheGasGiant> too

07:50 <dizzie> KathrynM, rm -f *

07:50 <dizzie> Done :)

07:50 <KathrynM> yeah, but if my machine crashes tonight, then the backup (albeit messy one) would be gone

07:50 <KathrynM> I'll deal with it next weekend :)

07:51 <KathrynM> and dizzie, I'd probably do it on the wrong drive :)

07:51 <TheGasGiant> hmmm.....full back up...never done one...back up data tho'

07:52 <KathrynM> data, my home directory, a few scripts I wrote, and stuff from computers that have gone to the silicon graveyard

07:53 <KathrynM> on that note, I'm taking yet another migraine pill, hoping the headache goes away and hitting the sack

07:53 <KathrynM> night all

07:53 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

07:54 <TheGasGiant> i have to work out why, since I manually put IP addresses on my comps, I can't access the shared drive on the other comp....firewall allows it

07:54 <TheGasGiant> g'night KathrynM

07:55 <dizzie> I dont do backups, nor do i cry of lost data :)

07:55 <dizzie> Goodnight KathrynM

08:02 <dizzie> TGG?

08:02 <dizzie> Wheres the coffee ?

08:03 <positron2007> Just one question, I added some projects in boincstats website and synchronized in the boinc manager program but the projects don't show up there, what should I do now?

08:05 <positron2007> And what does it mean Communication deferred? I had to close the program and now SETI seems to not start again

08:10 <positron2007> TheGasGiant, KathrynM, dizzie? Anyone?

08:10 <dizzie> *thinks*

08:10 <positron2007> Cool :)

08:10 <dizzie> deferred? is usually when there is no connection to the server, eg. retry few mins later

08:11 <positron2007> It's been like that for 20 minutes or so

08:11 <positron2007> And the projects not showing up?

08:11 <dizzie> I dont use fancy gui managers btw. Too much hassle

08:11 <dizzie> ./boinc --help

08:11 <dizzie> I run boinc in a "screen"

08:13 <positron2007> But dizzie you think if I add the projects again but this time in the program, it will synchronize the stats in the website? Because if I add them in the program it says Projects added via this wizard will not be listed on or managed via boincstats bam

08:13 <positron2007> I know what is the screen command

08:14 <dizzie> It takes time to sync, but yes. Try it like that

08:14 <positron2007> Okay, I'll try, despite that message?

08:15 <dizzie> screen "name" then cd <boinc dir>, and ./boinc

08:15 <positron2007> I prefer GUI

08:15 <dizzie> if in doubt... man screen

08:15 <positron2007> I used to use screen to give ssh to my friends and see what they were doing and to work together

08:19 <dizzie> Be right back

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08:41 <xcamel> 'lo

08:45 <CoderForLife> morning

08:45 <dizzie> Morning xcamel :)

08:45 <Tidus> hi and bye all ... gotta *^$# in 6 hours :(

08:46 <dizzie> Be safe Tidus :)

08:46 <CoderForLife> tc Tidus

08:46 * Tidus remembered that CoderForLife can't stand that 4 letter word :)

08:46 <dizzie> Glad i dont have to work on sundays :)

08:46 <dizzie> 12 hours yesterday still hurts hehe

08:46 * Tidus gasps...

08:46 <Tidus> you said it lol

08:46 <CoderForLife> it's so hard on the ears around here =)

08:46 <dizzie> Hehe

08:47 <xcamel> first morning in a month I could sit out on the decks with my coffee and not freeze

08:47 <xcamel> ..and drink my coffee

08:47 <dizzie> Ohh coffee

08:47 <dizzie> Share !

08:47 <dizzie> Hehe

08:47 <xcamel> fresh ground too...

08:47 <CoderForLife> nice, xcamel

08:47 <xcamel> mornin CFL

08:48 <dizzie> Mhm... excuse me a lil, someone made me go make some coffee *points at xcamel*

08:48 <CoderForLife> I was up fro 4 to 7, then took a nap from 7 to 8:30

08:48 <CoderForLife> from*

08:49 <xcamel> messes with your beauty sleep...

08:51 <CoderForLife> as can be quickly observed, I don't get much beauty sleep

08:51 <CoderForLife> started reading this guys' book this morning:

08:51 <Romulus> Title: Art Pennington - Profiteer (at

08:52 <CoderForLife> "The Predator"

08:56 * TheGasGiant is back

08:56 <CoderForLife> omg

08:56 <TheGasGiant> hola CoderForLife :)

08:56 <CoderForLife> just like a boomerang

08:57 <CoderForLife> helloooo TheGasGiant

08:57 <TheGasGiant> at least not like a bad smell ;)

08:57 <CoderForLife> =)

08:57 <CoderForLife> how are you Paul?

08:57 <dizzie> Yay, got coffee now :)

08:57 <TheGasGiant> no BSG last Friday night?

08:57 <TheGasGiant> all well Don

08:58 <TheGasGiant> was away for the weekend, up country

08:58 <CoderForLife> no - they thought they were feeding the excitement too fast - took a week off

08:58 <TheGasGiant> dammit

08:59 <TheGasGiant> was looking forward to downloading it ;)

08:59 <TheGasGiant> arrggghhh

08:59 <CoderForLife> me too

08:59 <TheGasGiant> how are you mate?

09:00 <CoderForLife> OK

09:00 <TheGasGiant> news on the retaining wall?

09:00 <CoderForLife> no updates - waiting for the plan from the civil engineer due "early this week"

09:01 <TheGasGiant> ahhh...slow engineers

09:01 * CoderForLife hears a faint drum roll

09:01 <CoderForLife> them engineers - an untrustworthy lot

09:01 <TheGasGiant> too true

09:02 <CoderForLife> so - I'm working on ways to increase cash flow

09:02 <TheGasGiant> just watching the start of the F1

09:03 <TheGasGiant> ahhh...bringing forward any of your Coding ventures?

09:03 <CoderForLife> yep, have to

09:03 <CoderForLife> essentially going to have to restart cellutions

09:03 * TheGasGiant sends all his good vibs towards CFL :)

09:04 <CoderForLife> thx, needed and appreciated

09:06 <TheGasGiant> brb....snack

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09:19 <positron2007> Is there any project that gives a prize or money if I discover something?

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09:20 <xcamel> lol

09:20 <xcamel> prizes???

09:21 <positron2007> There could be

09:21 <positron2007> I don't know, I'm new

09:21 <Romulus> lhc has been a while ago

09:21 <xcamel> never happen..

09:21 <positron2007> All right

09:21 <xcamel> it could, and it could be fun, but the devs detest that kind of thing...

09:22 <positron2007> They would certainly get more volunteers

09:22 <Saenger> this puzzle-thingy claimed to be with prizes, but firsrt you had to buy the expensive puzzle itself ;)

09:22 <positron2007> Yes, I readed that

09:23 <Saenger> i never believed them anyway

09:24 <xcamel> I had even a better idea - boinc bucks that could be "spent" as a discount on new hardware..

09:24 <positron2007> I have a Quad Core and all 4 are being used at 100%, can they burn if I leave for a long time?

09:24 <xcamel> not if you have good fans

09:25 <positron2007> I think I have

09:25 <xcamel> all mine rin like that..

09:25 <xcamel> er run even..

09:26 <xcamel> 1,2,4 cores - all flat out.

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09:27 <CoderForLife> ouch

09:27 <CoderForLife> that inopportune reboot brought to you by Microsoft

09:28 * CoderForLife looks to recover his unsaved work

09:32 <dizzie> Windows... something i really dont miss using :)

09:33 <CoderForLife> dialog box at the end of an uninstall essentially says "Reboot now?", with two choices: "Yes - now" and "No - wait 2 seconds"

09:34 <dizzie> Why not just one "Okay"

09:34 <CoderForLife> apps prompting me "do you want to save this important work?" were terminated with extreme prejudice

09:35 <xcamel> winduhs...

09:35 <CoderForLife> all summed up in one word

09:35 <dizzie> Hehe

09:35 <xcamel> the OS of last resort...

09:35 <dizzie> You call it a OS?

09:36 <CoderForLife> I'm sorry - I don't understand the concepts of "Windows" and "OS" in the same sentence...

09:36 <xcamel> whilst staring at 4 linux boxes, one OSX, and one winduhs

09:36 <dizzie> Was about to say

09:36 <dizzie> OS X 10.5 ? ;)

09:37 <xcamel> 10.5.3

09:37 <CoderForLife> where wuz I, before the box rebooted out from under me?

09:37 <dizzie> Very nice

09:37 <xcamel> on a modbook tablet

09:37 <dizzie> Haha

09:37 <Romulus> so the client side thank you notes to write the replacer in !@#embler, replacing 4 backslashes at a time to teleport to the browser should remember it being worth hardly anything, I can fix it.

09:37 <xcamel> geez rom..

09:38 * xcamel wonders if I should add "work" to the badword database..

09:39 <dizzie> Hrm, why does my FreeBSD box shows up as Linux 2.4 on Berkeley's webpage

09:39 <CoderForLife> ow, my ears

09:40 <dizzie> CFL, cant be as bad as i, i was forced to listen to Jazz for 10 hours yesterday

09:40 <dizzie> At work, so i couldnt bail out :)

09:40 <xcamel> 10 hours id considered torture..

09:40 <xcamel> er is even

09:40 <dizzie> True, but $300 is nice :)

09:40 <CoderForLife> my kind of "jazz": (hopefully)

09:40 <Romulus> Title: Whisperings: Solo Piano Radio (at

09:43 * CoderForLife restarts Visual Studio 2008 down^H^H^H^Hupgrade

09:43 <CoderForLife> I'm going to get something from the kitchen while this loads - brb

09:51 <CoderForLife> b

09:52 <CoderForLife> &seen TheGasGiant

09:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 46 minutes and 6 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> brb....snack

09:52 <Romulus> that's what i think it's Novell's SuSE? <<< huh?

09:52 <CoderForLife> those kangaroos are hard to catch...

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10:11 <CoderForLife> interesting,2933,358029,00.html

10:11 <Romulus> <> (at

10:32 <CoderForLife> &seen TheGasGiant

10:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 1 hour, 26 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> brb....snack

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10:40 <CoderForLife> bbl

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10:53 <xcamel> off to get some feed...

10:55 <dizzie> Enjoy :)

10:56 <CoderForLife> MS-inspired reboot

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12:14 <xcamel> re-back

12:18 <xcamel> really nice out now... finally

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12:27 <PovAddict> dizzie: don't use 'boinc' for commands

12:28 <PovAddict> start 'boinc', then control it with 'boinc_cmd'

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13:06 <cactaur> Does anyone know how to find out who registered a channel?

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13:28 <PovAddict> cactaur: /msg chanserv info #channel

13:29 <cactaur> Thanks!

14:38 <CoderForLife> Visual Studio 2008 Professional is a real disk chewer

14:41 <CoderForLife> and "msiexec" is cranking 98% of my CPU

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14:42 <CoderForLife> everything.. is.. running.. so.. slow..

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14:43 <CoderForLife> |\/|0O

14:44 <efc> Moo

14:48 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: lemme guess

14:48 <PovAddict> msiexec is a system service so you can't even lower its priority from task manager?

14:48 <CoderForLife> msiexec swaps itself out for the kernel

14:50 <CoderForLife> well - I was just able to rebuild my Code that I did with Visual Studio 2008 C++ Express with Visual Studio 2008 Professional

14:50 <CoderForLife> A vertiable Miracle

14:50 <CoderForLife> veritable (sp?)

14:51 <efc> Did I tell you about my dream where I found another 386SX-16 like mine

14:51 <efc> and I hooked it up in SLI mode

14:51 <CoderForLife> dreaming about 386SX?  you *are* a geek

14:51 <efc> I wanted Jennifer Connelly in my dream but noooooo I get SLI 386s

14:51 <CoderForLife> lol

14:52 <CoderForLife> let's see... Jennifer Connelly...

14:53 <efc> yes its a crappy trade

14:54 <CoderForLife> PC is whacked out

14:54 <CoderForLife> time for a Winduhs re-butt

14:54 <dizzie> efc i got an old 286, yours if you want it :)

14:54 <efc> I wonder, is there a way to quickly put a PC in power save from an external signal?

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14:55 <efc> Heh and my reason just showed up?

14:56 <dizzie> Who? =)

14:56 <efc> I was thinking if there was a way to signal a switch to hibernate, BOINC pc's would make good load generators

14:57 <efc> (I don't think the "off" switch would work that well for various reasons)

14:57 <CoderForLife> PC pausing for 15 seconds - then runs for 3

14:57 <dizzie> No? ;)

14:57 <dizzie> Hehe

14:57 <Romulus> the MindModeling admin says "a big thank you!"

14:57 <CoderForLife> aiiiiieeeeee

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14:58 <PovAddict> efc: you want a remote signal to hibernate a Windoze PC?

14:58 <efc> Yeah, just wondering..

14:59 <PovAddict> should be a few lines of C

14:59 <PovAddict> ExitWindows() probably can hibernate

14:59 <PovAddict> unfortunately MSDN website is unusable from Konqueror

14:59 <efc> How do you get the signal though?

14:59 <PovAddict> open a TCP socket or something :P

15:00 <efc> TCP doesn't run that hot at 60 hz ..

15:00 <efc> I was just thinking maybe there's a discrete line somewhere that would make it easy

15:00 <PovAddict> o_o

15:00 <PovAddict> well UDP?

15:00 <efc> Some network cards have wake-on-LAN

15:01 <efc> That might be close

15:01 <PovAddict> anything that a program can react to

15:01 <dizzie> Yeah, but the BIOS has to have it too

15:01 <PovAddict> heck use a serial port

15:01 <efc> Again, waking it up is somewhat harder than putting it to sleep, it almost has to be something the BIOS does

15:02 <dizzie> Mmmm my prayers has been heard. Now i can play WoW in Linux again :)

15:02 <PovAddict> wake-on-LAN probably would get it off hibernation, try it and see

15:03 <PovAddict> depending on your Windows version, you may have a 'shutdown' command already

15:03 <PovAddict> "shutdown /h" hibernates

15:05 <efc> I was hoping there's a header on most motherboards maybe

15:05 <efc> Like the power one

15:06 <Tank_Master> ?

15:06 <PovAddict> oh wait

15:06 <PovAddict> you can make Windows hibernate in response to the power button

15:06 <efc> Now that would work..

15:06 <PovAddict> there is definitely not a motherboard pin for "hibernating"

15:06 <PovAddict> that's all way higher level than the mobo knows about

15:07 <efc> Close the power pins header with a relay and you could do it just about any way you wanted

15:07 <Tank_Master> or the sleep button on the keyboard

15:07 <Tank_Master> you can set that to hybernate instead

15:07 <PovAddict> but the standard power button is configurable on most systems

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15:10 <CoderForLife> seems like MS prides itself on plodding bloatware

15:10 <efc> another possibility is wake-on-ring

15:11 <CoderForLife> and I want to know why Winduhs tells me I have a high priority update right after a reboot

15:12 <Tank_Master> manually run windows update again

15:12 <Tank_Master> itll go away

15:12 <CoderForLife> I am growing Windows-weary

15:13 <efc> Windows update used to be fairly decent..

15:13 <CoderForLife> I was arm-wrestling Vista last night

15:13 <CoderForLife> couldn't shutdown, couldn't bring up Task Manager, applications frozen

15:14 <CoderForLife> just had to power off

15:14 <cactaur> <----- PHOENIX TIME!!!!

15:14 <Romulus> Title: NASA - NASA TV (at

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15:14 <Tank_Master> and you blame the OS, cus thats they thing to do, right?

15:14 <efc> yeah i'm watching cactaur

15:14 <CoderForLife> the first thing we do here is assign blame

15:15 <Tank_Master> feed is laggy

15:15 <efc> pov: yep there's an option to make the power button "standby"

15:15 <CoderForLife> It's the Operating System from the computer, I'm what's technically referred to as the Victim

15:16 <CoderForLife> er User

15:16 <Tank_Master> Luser

15:16 <efc> Hibernate too if I turn that on

15:17 <PovAddict> efc: well there you go

15:17 <PovAddict> on my computer even the reset button can be software-controlled!

15:17 <efc> That would be excellent too

15:17 <efc> Even better

15:18 <PovAddict> I noticed because on a hard-hang, the reset button doesn't work :\

15:18 <PovAddict> I have to hold the power button for like 10 seconds to get it to really shutdown

15:19 <Tank_Master> sounds like your CPU might be overheating

15:19 <Tank_Master> software hang cant cause the reset button not to work

15:19 <CoderForLife> yeow - what an orange shirt

15:20 <Tank_Master> lol

15:20 <efc> <efc> Guy in toxic-orange suit?

15:21 <CoderForLife> He would need a lot of batteries to power that polo

15:21 <efc> Anyway with this fast hibernate we can send our extra PCs to BadBarbarian for use as load generators :)

15:22 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: yes it can

15:22 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: reset button telling the ACPI service on the computer to reset... except the computer is hanged all the way to the kernel

15:22 <CoderForLife> that shirt is a "pyro event"

15:27 <Tank_Master> the reset button puts out a hardware interupt, the kernel is still software.

15:28 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: well something somewhere was hooking into that hardware interrupt, but not doing anything in response to it while hanging

15:34 * CoderForLife reads about VisualSVN

15:35 * PovAddict uses TortoiseSVN on Winduhs

15:35 <PovAddict> ah, VS addon

15:37 <CoderForLife> yup - SCCS is my main reason for upgrading from Express to Professional

15:37 <CoderForLife> then I can share/version code between Winduhs and Linux

15:40 <CoderForLife> one Code to rule them all

15:40 <CoderForLife> bbl

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15:51 <Tank_Master> jack!

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16:08 <PovAddict> or not

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16:16 <wdsmia> 5/25/2008 3:16:17 PM|Hydrogen@Home|Message from server: Server error: recompile needed

16:16 <wdsmia> lol

16:17 <MTughan> So recompile!

16:17 <MTughan> :D

16:17 <efc> We need a new BOINC feature, message TO server

16:17 <MTughan> What, "Shut up!"?

16:17 <efc> A variety of colorful messages

16:18 <MTughan> Heh...

16:18 <efc> "Give me 6 hours of work or my last S@H WU gets sent to the 386"

16:18 <MTughan> rofl

16:19 <MTughan> Now we all support AI so the server can come up with a witty response. xD

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16:45 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

16:45 <xcamel> and Ed

16:45 <CoderForLife> hey Jay

16:45 <CoderForLife> wb

16:45 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

16:45 <xcamel> and Don

16:45 <CoderForLife> =)

16:47 <xcamel> a whopping 70 degrees out..

16:47 <CoderForLife> 76 here

16:47 <xcamel> tomorrow could push 80 (first time in a month)

16:54 <CoderForLife> same here

16:58 <CoderForLife> I'm not running CPDN at the moment, yet it was 1.9GB consumed on my hard drive - how can I get that back?

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17:05 <MTughan> CoderForLife: Reset the project.

17:06 <CoderForLife> will that keep my credits?

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17:08 <CoderForLife> thank goodness - I was wondering who to ask about refinishing this boat

17:09 <MTughan> Yes, it'll keep your credits, as long as you have reported all tasks.

17:09 <CoderForLife> hello Rookie_69

17:09 <Rookie_69> A boat is only finished when it is tossed in the scrap pile.

17:09 <Romulus> it lowers its priority

17:10 <Rookie_69> Hello, CoderForLife.

17:10 <CoderForLife> actually, it's more like a wooden raft

17:10 <MTughan> Even if the project creates a new computer, you can merge old ones with new ones.

17:10 <dizzie> Mmmm choccycake ;)

17:10 <Tank_Master> we already hit 100

17:10 <dizzie> Hello Rookie_69 :)

17:10 <Tank_Master> broke the old record by 22f

17:10 <Rookie_69> Hi, Dizzie.

17:11 <Rookie_69> Raft... Replace the vines lashing it together with fresh ones.

17:12 <dizzie> I got a deathwish, updating my entire system, hehe on a 233Mhz :) will take a while, done next sunday or so :)

17:12 * CoderForLife wages war for disk space

17:13 <CoderForLife> java 4 and 5 - gone

17:13 <CoderForLife> Safari - gone

17:13 * dizzie pokes CoderForLife with his 320GB SATA external disk :)

17:13 <CoderForLife> I'm cheap

17:13 * Tank_Master has a 1TB STAT drive

17:13 <dizzie> Ger rid of all dll files =50GB freed

17:13 <MTughan> 1.1TB in all here.

17:13 <CoderForLife> >cheep<  >cheep<  >cheep<

17:14 <MTughan> A 320GB, a 500GB, a 120GB, and a 160GB drive.

17:14 <Tank_Master> 3tb in all here

17:14 <dizzie> 1.1TB is that all ?

17:14 * Rookie_69 has a habit of adding more HD's because he is too lazy to burn dicks.

17:14 <Rookie_69> ... disks...

17:14 <dizzie> Ahahaha

17:14 <dizzie> Nasty typo :)

17:15 <Rookie_69> Blame Freud.

17:15 <MTughan> lol

17:15 * dizzie blames

17:15 <dizzie> Why did i even install Gentoo on a 233mhz :p

17:15 <dizzie> Sunday boredom?

17:16 * Rookie_69 wonders which part of a boat Don is trying to finish.

17:17 <Rookie_69> ... or refinish...

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17:18 <Rookie_69> ... and what he started with.

17:18 <CoderForLife> darn boat keeps sprouting leaves

17:18 <dizzie> lol

17:18 <Rookie_69> Wood too green?

17:18 <Romulus> with grep and find that bare toes are good people, trying to figure out how to overcome a problem

17:19 <MTughan> WTF?

17:19 <CoderForLife> the leaves sure are green

17:19 <Rookie_69> Spring is sprung.

17:19 <MTughan> Felt like summer today...

17:20 * Rookie_69 thinks it felt like a backache again today.

17:20 <dizzie> 36 here atm. But then againm 11:20pm :p

17:22 <MTughan> 36C or F?

17:23 <MTughan> 36C would be incredibly hot. 36F would be fairly cool.

17:23 * Rookie_69 thinks CFL has a tree growing through his boat.

17:23 <MTughan> 0C = 32F = Freezing point

17:25 <dizzie> F obviously

17:25 <Romulus> model 3 supports SSE3 apparently

17:26 <MTughan> I'm Canadian, so I automatically think 36C...

17:26 <MTughan> &math convert 36 C F

17:26 <Romulus> MTughan: 96.8

17:27 <dizzie> Well in C., here is like 8C

17:27 <dizzie> I'm in Europe :)

17:32 <Rookie_69> Dizzie DK sounds familiar...

17:32 <dizzie> Does it ;)

17:32 <dizzie> From where

17:32 <Rookie_69> ... so does Dizzie duck.

17:33 <Rookie_69> The past.

17:33 <dizzie> Indeed

17:33 <dizzie> 6 years ago

17:34 <Rookie_69> I do good to remember six days ago...

17:34 <dizzie> Hehe

17:37 * Rookie_69 thinks he's only been hanging around here for five years...

17:41 <Rookie_69> &first seen Rookie_69 would be an occasionally handy command.

17:41 <MTughan> &list Seen

17:41 <Romulus> MTughan: any, last, seen, and user

17:42 <MTughan> &user Rookie_69

17:42 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I can't find Rookie_69 in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.

17:42 <MTughan> Oh, user DB in Rommie...

17:42 <dizzie> &seen dizzie

17:42 <Romulus> dizzie: dizzie was last seen in #boinc 7 minutes and 44 seconds ago: <dizzie> Hehe

17:42 <dizzie> :p

17:42 <Romulus> I have not push it past 3 years on #boinc, I'm SOMEBODY now =)

17:42 <MTughan> &seen MTughan

17:42 <Romulus> MTughan: MTughan was last seen in #boinc 38 seconds ago: <MTughan> Oh, user DB in Rommie...

17:42 <MTughan> &seen MTughan

17:42 <Romulus> MTughan: MTughan was last seen in #boinc 0 seconds ago: <MTughan> &seen MTughan

17:42 <CoderForLife> I think I would show up sometime in February of 2005

17:43 <Rookie_69> Yeah, It was a while before I showed up here.

17:43 <CoderForLife> &seen Zanz

17:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: I have not seen Zanz.

17:44 <Rookie_69> That other Don...

17:44 <CoderForLife> yeah, I started talking to him , and he quit a week later

17:44 <dizzie> Anway, if i want to act less zombieish i should get some sleep

17:44 <dizzie> Goodnight all :)

17:44 <Rookie_69> NN.

17:44 <CoderForLife> gn dizzie

17:44 <MTughan> Getting delirious again?

17:56 <Rookie_69> Again?

17:57 <CoderForLife> he stopped?

17:57 <Rookie_69> Still.

18:01 <Rookie_69> These amber muscle relaxants don't seem to be working... Maybe I need another one.

18:02 <Rookie_69> Pfft.

18:03 <CoderForLife> was that the sound of your muscles?

18:03 <Rookie_69> Nope... That would be creak or clunk.

18:05 <Rookie_69> That sound was the sound of the pressurized packaging for this amber muscle relaxant being opened.

18:05 <CoderForLife> ah ic

18:06 <Rookie_69> They package them in an aluminum mini-keg for some reason.

18:12 <desti>

18:12 <Romulus> Title: NASA - Phoenix (at

18:12 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... Today's supposed to be the day for that controlled crash.

18:22 <Rookie_69> ... digging at the North Pole to see if there's a Martian Santa or something...

18:23 * CoderForLife continues working on his boat

18:24 * Rookie_69 still wonders what kind of boat.

18:24 <CoderForLife> the good kind

18:24 <Rookie_69> Gravy boat?

18:24 <Tank_Master> what supprises me is they were stupid enough to spend so many millions of my money to build something that cant even move

18:24 <CoderForLife> the one people are waiting on

18:24 <CoderForLife> the "when my ship comes in" boat

18:25 <Tank_Master> thats like going back to the first generation probs we sent 40 years ago

18:25 <Rookie_69> Ohio riverboat.

18:25 <CoderForLife> they are all out of wheels, Tank_Master

18:26 <CoderForLife> Phoenix is Polar Lander leftovers

18:26 <Tank_Master> lol

18:27 <Rookie_69> ... Risen from the ashes...

18:28 <CoderForLife> it would need to resurrect on Mars, then, right?

18:28 * CoderForLife does the high math in his head

18:28 * KathrynM is back (gone 10:35:32)

18:28 <Tank_Master> it would be worth more to burn it and scrap the mettle

18:29 <Tank_Master> wb KM

18:29 <CoderForLife> speaking of high math

18:29 <Rookie_69> Only if the landing is botched.

18:29 <KathrynM> mornin

18:29 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM

18:29 <Rookie_69> That's Hi Marks...

18:29 <Rookie_69> Hi, K.

18:29 <KathrynM> why does Monday come around so soon?

18:29 * CoderForLife collects pop cans to take out for recycling

18:30 <CoderForLife> It Is The Nature Of Things

18:30 <Rookie_69> Shh.

18:30 <CoderForLife> it's relentless

18:30 <CoderForLife> time, tide, The Grim Reaper

18:30 <CoderForLife> and Mondays

18:30 <KathrynM> aye

18:31 <CoderForLife> oh, and Taxes

18:31 <KathrynM> so much fun to pay them to 2 countries

18:31 * CoderForLife gives KathrynM that *look*

18:32 <CoderForLife> and whose choice was *that*?

18:32 <KathrynM> yeah yeah yeah.  but at least I *have* a job here.  More than I had back home.

18:33 <CoderForLife> Ok ok  point scored

18:33 <KathrynM> plus I figure the free rent balances out what I pay Uncle Sam

18:33 <CoderForLife> Score: MsMarks 1     Normal Accepted Reality 0

18:34 <CoderForLife> he is a greedy thankless uncle

18:34 <KathrynM> that he is

18:34 <CoderForLife> he feels like he's got it coming to him

18:35 <CoderForLife> beat on the oil execs for their 9 cents a gallon, while grabbing 42 cents for himself

18:36 <CoderForLife> aye me hearty - hand over yer pieces of eight before I keel-haul ye

18:36 * CoderForLife collects the trash to set out for Memorial Day pickup

18:36 <CoderForLife> it seems odd...

18:36 <CoderForLife> bbiab

18:46 <Rookie_69> Be Back In A Beer?

18:51 <CoderForLife> be back in a boat

18:51 <CoderForLife> a boat 10 minutes

18:54 <Rookie_69> gelcoat is probably best for the hull of a glass boat, but supposedly difficult to spray evenly.

18:55 <Rookie_69> Wooden boat is difficult to say because a dry boat leaks like a sieve and paint doesn't stick very well to a wet boat.

18:56 <CoderForLife> I want my boat to be made of avarice

18:57 <Rookie_69> Avarice... Is that what birds eat?

18:57 <CoderForLife> if you don't have humility, yes

18:58 <Rookie_69> The humility here makes it really sticky when it gets hot.

19:02 * Rookie_69 likes playing with word meanings.

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19:05 <PovAddict> &seen user Rookie_69

19:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: I can't find Rookie_69 in my user database. If you didn't give a user name, then I might not know what your user is, and you'll need to identify before this command might work.

19:06 <Rookie_69> &seen PovAddict

19:06 <Romulus> Rookie_69: PovAddict was last seen in #boinc 35 seconds ago: <PovAddict> &seen user Rookie_69

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19:06 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you still have to pay taxes from the US? o_O

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19:19 <jackygrahamez__> hi

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19:20 * Ageless93 is no longer away : Gone for 12 hours 1 minute 37 seconds

19:20 <Ageless93> you broke the server again, Jack? ;)

19:21 <Ageless93> 26-May-08 01:02:09|Hydrogen@Home|Message from server: Server error: can't attach shared memory

19:21 <CoderForLife> Uncle Sam has a long arm, PovAddict

19:21 <Tank_Master> it was fixed?

19:21 <Ageless93> apparently, TM, as I did get work

19:21 <jackygrahamez__> no I did not break, my provider was testing the restore on another server

19:22 <Ageless93> just can't return it due to the above... not that the work actually did anything else than crash immediately, but that aside.

19:22 * CoderForLife starts listening to Phoenix coverage

19:23 <jackygrahamez__> he found that the restore on the other server did the same thing

19:23 * Rookie_69 continues to listen to Phoenix coverage.

19:23 <jackygrahamez__> so the snapshots get corrupted

19:23 * Tank_Master continues to listen to Phoenix coverage.

19:24 <jackygrahamez__> we are migrating it over to another server now

19:24 <CoderForLife> Fuk Li?

19:24 <jackygrahamez__> I don't want to touch it until I hear from him

19:24 <Tank_Master> lol

19:24 * Ageless93 looks at Nasa TV coverage of the Phoenix coverage

19:24 <Tank_Master>

19:24 <Romulus> Title: NASA - NASA TV (at

19:25 <Rookie_69> Jet Li's brother?

19:25 <Ageless93> Unless Jet is Hawaiian I don't think so

19:27 <CoderForLife> Fuk is one grateful guy

19:27 <Ageless93> so what if this mission goes wrong again, will you learn from it?

19:27 <Tank_Master> gee, mission control is so exciting to watch

19:27 <PovAddict> indeed

19:27 <CoderForLife> "oh yes, we'll learn never to do this again"

19:27 <Tank_Master> wish I had a job like that

19:28 <Ageless93> what did you expect, Live pictures from Mars?

19:28 <PovAddict> yes Ageless93, why not

19:28 <Tank_Master> sit there and listen form a signle that someone else is doing the work to tune and find

19:28 <jackygrahamez__> They are putting a phoenix on mars?

19:28 <Tank_Master> yep

19:28 <jackygrahamez__> won't it sufficate?

19:28 <Tank_Master> its begninning landing in about 5 min

19:28 <Tank_Master> probably

19:29 <jackygrahamez__> I saw that movie total recall, I bet its eyes will pop out

19:29 <Ageless93> better watch Mission to Mars jack

19:29 <Rookie_69> It will land in a ball of flame and be reborn as a Martian.

19:29 <CoderForLife> Phoenix has closed it's eyes, preparing to jump in

19:29 <Romulus> i've an account in any case, you can also find him on the forums and announce, that there is much more productive

19:29 <Tank_Master> yep

19:29 <Tank_Master> she's flying blind

19:30 <Tank_Master> starting yo burn up now,

19:30 <CoderForLife> it's punching buttons like mad on it's internal calculator

19:30 <Rookie_69> 19:53 is estimated TD time.

19:30 <CoderForLife> RPN, of course

19:30 <Ageless93> I watched the computer animation... what's wrong with it dropping all the way on a parachute? Why the thrusters for the last x 100 feet?

19:31 <Tank_Master> so it can be reborn as a mostionless miltimillion $$ rock pusher

19:31 <Ageless93> a crater you mean

19:31 <Tank_Master> the parashoot cant slow it down enough

19:31 <Rookie_69> Shovel.

19:31 <Ageless93> then use two para's

19:31 <Rookie_69> Not much atmospheric resistance.

19:31 <Tank_Master> heh

19:31 <Tank_Master> yeah

19:32 <Tank_Master> it would still be going about 100MPH when it hits

19:32 <Ageless93> or a balloon

19:32 <Rookie_69> ... not much atmosphere.

19:32 <Ageless93> terraform Mars first then

19:32 <CoderForLife> where's your sense of adventure, Ageless93?

19:32 <Tank_Master> the ballons wouldnt give the needed clearence under the lander it needed

19:33 <Rookie_69> Retrothrusters or wheels... We can't have both.

19:33 <Tank_Master> remember, it cant move

19:33 <Tank_Master> once it has landed, thats it

19:33 <CoderForLife> 13,000 miles per hour?

19:33 <jackygrahamez__> I saw this documentary one time called star trek, why don't they just beam it there?

19:33 <Ageless93> from 15,000 mph to 5mph in 15 minutes?

19:33 <CoderForLife> dems some brakes

19:33 <PovAddict> lol jack

19:33 <Tank_Master> right now, yes, 13kmph

19:34 <Tank_Master> Ageless93 - yep

19:34 <Tank_Master> glad I am not on it ;)

19:34 <Ageless93> good brake pads

19:34 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:34 <Tank_Master> it uses air brakes

19:35 <Ageless93> so they are terraforming Mars then?

19:35 <Ageless93> venting all that air ;)

19:37 <Rookie_69> With the lag in communications between Earth and Mars... has it already landed?

19:37 <Tank_Master> its not air

19:37 <Tank_Master> its hydrogen

19:37 <Ageless93> I like their screens on the back row.

19:38 <CoderForLife> looks like everyone got the "blue shirt" memo...

19:38 <Tank_Master> so the thusters cant accidently fire after its landed

19:38 <Tank_Master> I think thats all they have...

19:38 <jackygrahamez__> ok they are at Caltech...I might be visiting someone there this summer

19:39 <Tank_Master> they are overpayed geeks, they probably dont dress themselves ;)

19:39 <Tank_Master> nice

19:39 <CoderForLife> they all know the red shirt issue

19:39 <jackygrahamez__> Now I know how to dress

19:39 <Romulus> specifically it says i need fresh "victims"

19:39 <Tank_Master> blue shirt, bash pants

19:40 <CoderForLife> shed your wings, Phoenix

19:40 * Tank_Master nominates Romulus as the next victim

19:40 <Ageless93> remember kids, you're looking at history in the making! A good story to tell your grand children.

19:40 <Tank_Master> haha

19:40 <Tank_Master> right

19:40 <jackygrahamez__> success?

19:40 <Tank_Master> not yet

19:40 <CoderForLife> I guess that's good

19:40 <Ageless93> now it has to land

19:40 <jackygrahamez__> I just heard some clapping

19:41 <Tank_Master> its seperated and is on its own power

19:41 <Rookie_69> I guess I'll have to put on a few pounds before applying for a job there.

19:41 <CoderForLife> space explorers do so on their butts

19:41 <jackygrahamez__> What if you build an atomic bomb out of kitchen utensils?

19:42 * Tank_Master would prais you

19:42 <Ageless93> Jack, take your meds

19:42 <CoderForLife> lol

19:42 <jackygrahamez__> Sorry I just ate tacos

19:42 <Tank_Master> so your the one stinking up the place

19:43 <CoderForLife> Jack needs to take his seat at "Attitude Contol" - it looks like it's open

19:43 <jackygrahamez__> Do you think it will help me pickup chicks?

19:43 <CoderForLife> doubtless

19:43 <Ageless93> it's waiting to enter the atmosphere, in a holding pattern over point Zulu

19:45 <Ageless93> I notice Nasa has its own language.

19:46 <Tank_Master> its the language of science

19:47 <jackygrahamez__> I'm having trouble with the language they used in JavaGenes

19:47 <CoderForLife> turn up the thermostat

19:47 <Tank_Master> you mean the AC

19:48 <CoderForLife> &dict ablation

19:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: ablation n 1: surgical removal of a body part or tissue [syn: {extirpation}, {cutting out}, {excision}] 2: the erosive process that reduces the size of glaciers; gcide: Ablation \Ab*la"tion\, n. [L. ablatio, fr. ablatus p. p. of auferre to carry away; ab + latus, p. p. of ferre carry: cf. F. ablation. See {Tolerate}.] 1. A carrying or taking away; (5 more messages)

19:48 <Ageless93> oh look, the seti screen saver

19:49 <jackygrahamez__> does this irc provide weather reports on Mars?

19:49 <Rookie_69> SETI classic...

19:49 <Romulus> as can be a Miranda problem

19:49 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:49 <CoderForLife> &wx hell

19:49 <Rookie_69> &weather mars

19:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 69.4F / 20.8C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3.8mph / 6.1km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear during the evening. Mostly cloudy overnight. A chance of showers and thunderstorms after 2 am. Lows 58 to 62. Southwest winds 5 to 15 mph...turning to south. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Memorial Day - Mostly cloudy (1 more message)

19:49 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 67.5F / 19.7C | Humidity: 15% | Pressure: 28.67in / 970.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear this evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. South winds around 5 mph. ; Memorial Day - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds (1 more message)

19:50 <PovAddict> seti screensaver? lol

19:50 <Rookie_69> &wx vulcan

19:50 <Ageless93> rain on Mars?

19:50 <jackygrahamez__> nice baybe I should go 4th of July weekend

19:50 <CoderForLife> it's a beautiful day on Mars

19:50 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 53°F / 12°C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 22mph / 35km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM MDT; Tonight - Showers ending this evening then cloudy with 40 percent chance of showers. Risk of thunderstorms early this evening. Low 7C(45F). ; Monday - A mix of sun and cloud. High 14C(57F). UV index 7 or high. Monday night (1 more message)

19:50 <Ageless93> I thought they were going to look for water

19:50 <CoderForLife> the atmo pressure is a little low

19:50 <Rookie_69> Stuff in the ice.

19:51 <CoderForLife> let us hear from you

19:51 <Tank_Master> 5 million $ question - will the pahacute deploy?

19:51 <CoderForLife> data!

19:51 <Ageless93> data lockup is not good in my opinion, but perhaps I'm thinking different data lockups.

19:52 <CoderForLife> can they Ctrl-Alt-Del?

19:53 <Tank_Master> 32b aint fast either

19:53 <Ageless93> "The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one," he said.

19:53 <Rookie_69> Nope... Just bounce.

19:53 <Tank_Master> 32k*

19:53 <jackygrahamez__> What do they do once they land?

19:53 <Tank_Master> did the pasacute deploy?

19:53 <jackygrahamez__> setup a starbucks?

19:53 <Ageless93> start a war

19:53 <CoderForLife> good radar

19:54 <CoderForLife> slowly

19:54 <jackygrahamez__> 100 m

19:54 <wdsmia> it made it

19:54 <jackygrahamez__> 20m

19:54 <jackygrahamez__> touchdown

19:54 <Rookie_69> Happy New Year!!!

19:54 <CoderForLife> lol

19:55 <CoderForLife> excellent

19:55 <Tank_Master> :)

19:55 <CoderForLife> who's the guy in the Han Solo outfit?

19:55 <Tank_Master> waa hoo!!

19:55 * Rookie_69 hugs CFL.

19:55 <Tank_Master> Han solo?

19:55 <CoderForLife> he didn't get the blue shirt memo

19:56 <Tank_Master> hehe

19:56 <CoderForLife> high fives all around

19:56 <Tank_Master> always

19:56 <Ageless93> it's Kane!

19:57 <jackygrahamez__> anyone see ironman?

19:57 <Rookie_69> Watch out for the guy in the black shirt... He dies in this episode.

19:57 <Tank_Master> no, after all that, it would be funny of the shovel didnt work

19:57 <Tank_Master> now*

19:57 <Tank_Master> mmm - she is cute

19:57 <CoderForLife> licorice?

19:57 <jackygrahamez__> I wonder if they have a problem with harasment at NASA

19:58 <Tank_Master> LOL

19:58 <Ageless93> some young people among all the old people

19:58 <Tank_Master> every chick needs a good boob fondeler, right KathrynM?

19:58 <CoderForLife> they've forgotten the spacecraft

19:59 <Ageless93> anyone notice it's only white people there?

19:59 <Tank_Master> yeah, they dont care about it any more

19:59 <jackygrahamez__> well they did have that one astranaut psycho lady with the diapers

19:59 * Rookie_69 accepts a hug from anyone else wearing a blue shirt.

20:00 <Ageless93> it is Kane

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20:00 <CoderForLife> ah well - that was all very exciting

20:00 <Ageless93> the guy in the black shirt and the bald head

20:00 <Rookie_69> ... does that make them all blue collar workers?

20:00 <Tank_Master> might be management

20:00 <jackygrahamez__> he is a roadie

20:00 <Tank_Master> yes, it does

20:00 <sethy> i smell excitement in #boinc

20:01 <Ageless93> got to have some evil there

20:01 <sethy> :)

20:01 <Tank_Master> Phoenix landing was sucessful

20:01 <Ageless93> who forgot to nflush?

20:01 <sethy> i saw

20:01 <CoderForLife> hey sethy

20:01 <sethy> hey don

20:01 <Rookie_69> It landed... but will it dig?

20:02 <sethy> will it deploy solar panels

20:02 <CoderForLife> at least it didn't while landing

20:02 <Tank_Master> need to wait 15 min before the solar pants deploy

20:02 <Rookie_69> Suits moving in to hog all the glory...

20:02 <Tank_Master> suits are good at that

20:02 <Tank_Master> that is why they are paid the big bucks

20:02 <jackygrahamez__> come on, I'm a tax payer, I demand instant gratification

20:02 <CoderForLife> this is the point in the project where we reward the non-participants

20:03 <PovAddict> ñpñ

20:03 <Tank_Master> LOL

20:03 <PovAddict> lol*

20:03 <PovAddict> omg

20:03 * Rookie_69 doesn't even own a suit anymore.

20:03 <Tank_Master> ?

20:03 <sethy> that was laud

20:03 <PovAddict> I just saw somebody there that looked like the father in Alf

20:03 <sethy> hi barry

20:05 <Ageless93> no champagne, no cake.

20:05 <Tank_Master> its not over yet

20:06 <PovAddict> Ageless93: I saw cake

20:06 <Tank_Master> mmm - cake

20:06 <sethy> the cake is a lie

20:06 <MTughan> Hold that line...

20:06 <sethy> everyone got that?

20:06 <sethy> mission controll *BEEP*

20:07 <MTughan>

20:07 <Romulus> <> (at

20:07 <PovAddict> sethy: I got it just now

20:07 <PovAddict> my video is more lagged I guess

20:07 <sethy> britainsland is the motherland

20:07 <sethy> lol

20:08 <sethy> nice1 MTughan

20:08 <sethy> hi peter

20:09 <sethy> can we get live video feed on this?

20:09 <sethy> the pixamatured

20:10 <PovAddict> huh

20:10 * Rookie_69 pictures Marvin arresting Phoenix for prospecting without a license.

20:10 <Tank_Master>

20:10 <Romulus> Title: NASA - NASA TV (at

20:11 <PovAddict> dæmn

20:11 <sethy> no i mean, when pheonex begins to broadcast video, will we be able to watch?

20:11 <sethy> i hope so

20:12 <PovAddict> Linux has some thingy that supposedly shows printer ink levels

20:12 <PovAddict> and It Doesn't Work

20:12 <Tank_Master> it wont brodcast video

20:12 <Tank_Master> just pics

20:12 <sethy> :(

20:12 <Tank_Master> and thos should be comming in by tonight

20:13 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:14 <CoderForLife> KathrynM must've been on Phoenix

20:15 * CoderForLife tries to free up enough disk space, even temporarily, to run defrag

20:15 <Rookie_69> Mars... Korea... Seem about as far away.

20:15 <Rookie_69> Del *.*

20:16 <Ageless93> I'll see the pictures later on, am off to bed. Night all.

20:16 <Rookie_69> NN.

20:16 *** Ageless93 is now known as Ageless93[Away]

20:16 * Ageless93[Away] is now away - Reason : Wouldn't you want to be away?

20:16 <Tank_Master> heh

20:17 <Rookie_69> ... or should that be deltree?

20:17 <sethy> should i stay up?

20:17 <sethy> i've been up all yesterday

20:18 <Rookie_69> She was hot and wet in the past, but now she's frigid... Mars must have got married.

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20:21 <sethy> did you hear about EpicNoseGuy

20:22 <Tank_Master> did the solar plaanle deploy yet?

20:22 <sethy> 00.40 utc, in 28 minuyes?

20:22 <sethy> 18*

20:23 <sethy> i dont know

20:24 * Rookie_69 glances at the clock and wonders why he isn't asleep already.

20:24 <Tank_Master> heh

20:25 <Tank_Master> cus its only 5:24 pm?

20:25 <sethy> but its //say $time here

20:25 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... all this excitement.

20:25 <sethy> ohshi

20:25 <sethy> 01:25:30

20:25 <PovAddict> lol sethy

20:25 <PovAddict> you're supposed to use "//say but it's $time here"

20:26 <Rookie_69> 25 past bedtime here... I go to bed early.

20:26 <sethy> i realised that as i was pressing enter

20:26 <Tank_Master> but it's 17:25:41 here

20:26 <sethy> but its england here

20:26 <sethy> and boring

20:26 <Tank_Master> sorry to hear that, sethy

20:26 <sethy> thanks for your sympathy

20:26 <Tank_Master> :) np

20:27 <sethy> all stations

20:27 <sethy> 00400?

20:27 * Rookie_69 wanders off to bed.

20:27 <Rookie_69> NN.

20:27 <sethy> MM

20:27 <Rookie_69> MM?

20:27 <Romulus> It has been said that MM is free. try it, Rookie_69

20:27 <Rookie_69> OK.

20:27 <Tank_Master> o.O?

20:27 <sethy> its next to N

20:27 <Rookie_69> M&Ms are now free.

20:28 <Tank_Master> so is MindModeling

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20:28 <sethy> blogging on the internet

20:28 <sethy> dubya dubya dubya bush

20:29 <sethy> question, what activities?

20:30 <Tank_Master> so... solar panel - did it deploy yet?

20:30 <sethy> they havent said, imediately assume they are hiding it, in which case, it did not go well

20:31 <sethy> they forgot to pack the panels

20:31 <Tank_Master> thats what I am wondering...

20:31 <Tank_Master> LOL

20:31 <Tank_Master> no, they packed them, they just forgot to plug them in

20:31 <sethy> discovery launches in 5 days

20:32 <sethy> "so you can watch their activities" - ohi people that are sitting

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20:47 * CoderForLife disenfragulates his hard disk

20:50 <MTughan> "disenfragulates"?

20:52 <sethy> wtf

20:52 <sethy> DID EVERYONE COPY

20:52 <PovAddict> the weird noises?

20:52 <sethy> yea

20:52 <sethy> a wierd case of 56k

20:54 <sethy> DIAL-UP

20:54 <CoderForLife> yeah, disenfragulate, with the disenfraginator

20:54 <CoderForLife> make my hard drive feel better

20:55 <CoderForLife> 1% complete

20:55 <PovAddict> try degaussing it too

20:55 <CoderForLife> ah excellent idea

20:55 <Romulus> have to make the vendors pay for the support channel from Azureus itself, admins can send you a start symlink for each one

20:56 <CoderForLife> those pesky magnetic fields really build up

20:56 <sethy> they are fixing?

20:56 <sethy> what are they fixing, i missed that?

20:57 <Tank_Master> ow

20:59 <CoderForLife> I turned it off - what's the story on the solar panels?

20:59 <sethy> i dont know

20:59 <Tank_Master> all I get is "I cant believe everything went so well"

20:59 <CoderForLife> jinx

20:59 * sethy touches wood

20:59 <Tank_Master> but it sound like no satelight is in pber over the landing

21:00 <Tank_Master> over*

21:00 <Tank_Master> so they arent getting any signels

21:00 <CoderForLife> yep - I remember that issue

21:00 <CoderForLife> they were there for landing

21:02 * efc watches as critters crawl into view of the camera. Suddenly the feed goes dead, and stern guys in quasimilitary uniforms announce there have been technical difficulties and you will all leave now.

21:02 <Tank_Master> LOL

21:02 <Tank_Master> no doubt

21:03 <sethy> giant mutant spiders on the lens again

21:03 <CoderForLife> "it was a weather balloon"

21:03 * Tank_Master thinks this every time SETI has an unexpected "server crash"

21:03 <sethy> hold that line

21:03 <Tank_Master> which line?

21:03 <sethy> dons

21:04 <efc> A guy in a black suit shows up at your door and demands you turn over you last seti@hom workunit

21:04 <Tank_Master> don has no line

21:04 <Tank_Master> LOL

21:04 <CoderForLife> My SETI WU said "pick up milk"

21:05 <CoderForLife> is that a problem?  sounds innocent...

21:05 * Tank_Master asks the man in the back suit with RIAA on it "When did you own songs made by extra teresterals?"

21:06 <efc> Just now, one of these walks into view..

21:06 <efc>

21:06 <Romulus> <> (at

21:06 <sethy> <-- see if you can get that CoderForLife & Tank_Master

21:06 <Romulus> <> (at

21:07 <sethy> may be laggy sorry

21:07 <Tank_Master> LOL

21:07 <Tank_Master> yes, it is loading slowly

21:07 <sethy> UH BEEP

21:08 <Tank_Master> ow

21:08 <Tank_Master> more of a warning would be nice

21:08 <Tank_Master> faa

21:08 <sethy> talk about censorship

21:11 <CoderForLife> got it sethy

21:11 <CoderForLife> that's about right

21:11 <Tank_Master> yeah

21:12 <CoderForLife> at least it's anthropomorphic (?) , efc

21:13 <efc> (Cybermen from Dr. Who, The Tenth Planet)

21:13 <CoderForLife> not squid-like a la War of the Worlds

21:13 <Tank_Master> oh, the first pic?

21:13 <Tank_Master> I thought you were asking if I got the second one

21:14 <efc> I watched that episode.. man, they were bad

21:14 <CoderForLife> efc's pic

21:14 <Tank_Master> yeah, I knew the first one from from Dr Who

21:14 <efc> They disabled their victims by making them laugh to death

21:14 <CoderForLife> Ooooo bad...

21:14 <Romulus> not gonna happen. Individual comps. Not one they put out a few pending finally clear and sunny today

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21:15 <Tank_Master> one would think by now we would have enough space junk over mars to be able to detect a signal 24x7

21:16 <PovAddict> hey zombie67

21:16 <zombie67> hi pov!

21:17 <PovAddict> zombie67: I made a shellscript for Linux to suspend multiple BOINC tasks

21:18 <zombie67> neat!

21:18 <CoderForLife> I'm about to go to bed - any news on the solar panel deployment?

21:18 <Tank_Master> no

21:18 <zombie67> i don't have any linux boxes anymore

21:18 <CoderForLife> OK thx

21:18 <CoderForLife> I'll say gn here

21:19 <CoderForLife> tc folks

21:19 <Tank_Master> gn

21:19 <zombie67> gn

21:19 <sethy> Tank_Master: - you might be interested

21:19 <Romulus> <> (at

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21:48 <Houdi_Elbow> Hello folks...

21:48 * Tank_Master hears clapping

21:55 <Tank_Master> solar pannels have deployed

21:57 <Tank_Master> first pics are coming in now

21:57 <MTughan> Linky?

21:57 <sethy> ^^THIS

21:57 <MTughan> You?

21:57 <Romulus> Somebody said You are upper fayl, MTughan

21:57 <MTughan> WTF?

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21:58 <Tank_Master>

21:58 <Romulus> Title: NASA - NASA TV (at

21:58 <MTughan> Thanks.

21:59 <MTughan> Does your go into fullscreen?

21:59 <MTughan> yours*

21:59 <PovAddict> it's not supposed to

22:00 <PovAddict> it depends on what player you're using

22:00 <MTughan> Does here...

22:00 <PovAddict> looks like I'm using Kaffeine inside Konqueror o_O

22:00 <MTughan> It did this once it loaded the page.

22:00 <MTughan> I'm thinking VLC, but let me check...

22:01 <MTughan> Well, Xorg is using the more CPU...

22:01 <MTughan> ~40%.

22:03 <Tank_Master> rightclivk on the vid

22:04 <Tank_Master> then zoom - full screen

22:04 <sethy> question, why is image monochrome

22:05 <MTughan> It's not.

22:05 <MTughan> And Tank_Master: Linux. :P

22:05 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

22:05 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 79.7F / 26.5C | Humidity: 80% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Thunderstorm | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Numerous showers and thunderstorms early in the evening...then showers and widespread thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with large hail and damaging wind... then some thunderstorms may be (3 more messages)

22:06 <wdsmia> &more

22:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: severe with heavy rainfall...large hail and damaging wind. Locally heavy rainfall possible. Low in the mid 60s. South wind 10 to 15 mph decreasing to around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation 80 percent. ; Memorial Day - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the upper 70s. West wind (2 more messages)

22:06 <MTughan> I got the WM ASX and am currently streaming it by VLC.

22:06 <wdsmia> &more

22:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: around 5 mph shifting to the north in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 40 percent. ; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Cooler. Low in the lower 50s. Northeast wind 5 to 15 mph with gusts to around 25 mph. Chance of precipitation 40 percent. ; Tornado Watch for Polk County (1 more message)

22:06 <wdsmia> &more

22:06 <Romulus> wdsmia: in effect until 3:00 AM CDT on May 26, 2008; Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Polk County in effect until 9:30 PM CDT on May 25, 2008; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 7:00 AM CDT on May 26, 2008;

22:06 <Tank_Master> MTughan - upgrade to windows, its more functional

22:06 <MTughan> Uh uh.

22:07 <MTughan> Linux is much more functional. No DRM!

22:08 <PovAddict> people say Linux has crap hardware support

22:08 <MTughan> It's pretty darn good now.

22:08 <Tank_Master> only linux people talk about DRM

22:08 <Tank_Master> I have never had any issues

22:08 <MTughan> Because you're supporting it.

22:08 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: that's not the point...

22:08 <Tank_Master> all my illgally downloaded crap works

22:08 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: that's not the point...

22:09 <PovAddict> illegally downloaded crap works

22:09 <Tank_Master> DRM is just fud

22:09 <PovAddict> legally downloaded crap works *only* on Windows

22:09 <Tank_Master> all the CDs I burn with WMP work on any comp

22:09 <MTughan> Or if with QuickTime, in OS X.

22:09 <MTughan> Tank_Master: CDs don't have DRM.

22:09 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: you clearly have no idea what DRM is *about*

22:09 <PovAddict> about hardware; so far, scanner and printer got working EASIER than they did on Windows

22:09 <Tank_Master> so illegally downloaded crap wont work on linux?

22:10 * PovAddict gives up and goes have dinner

22:10 <MTughan> Illegally downloaded crap does work on Linux.

22:10 <MTughan> Legally downloaded crap does not work on Linux.

22:10 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: legal DVDs work on Linux only because they broke the DRM

22:10 <Tank_Master> how much easier then pulging in a printer and printing do you need?

22:10 <MTughan> Unless it does not have DRM.

22:10 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: I wish it had been that easy on Windows

22:10 <PovAddict> it's all "insert driver CD" with any hardware

22:10 <Tank_Master> never had a printer that wasnt

22:10 <MTughan> You know drivers? Gone with Linux.

22:10 <Tank_Master> no

22:11 <Tank_Master> then why have I always needed drivers for linux?

22:11 <MTughan> Because manufacturers don't allow people to write open-source drivers that can be integrated into the kernel or hardware managers.

22:11 <Tank_Master> so, its not "gone"

22:12 <MTughan> Underneath? No. To the user, for the great deal of the time.

22:12 <Tank_Master> huh?

22:12 <MTughan> Users for the most part don't see drivers on Linux.

22:12 <Tank_Master> just like for the most part they dont on windows

22:12 <MTughan> The only driver I had to get for my computer was for the video card, and even that didn't work.

22:13 <Tank_Master> you plud in a USB mouse, it just works, same with meda from my camera, or USB flash, or printer, or scanner...

22:13 <MTughan> I have speakers, kb/mouse, DVD drives.

22:13 <Tank_Master> need I go on?

22:13 <wdsmia> one of these days you yahoo's will learn any os can be made to work... the choice should be determined on what the best choise is for app's you  run

22:13 <MTughan> Ditto for Linux.

22:14 <Tank_Master> so, you say that driver issues for linux are gone, yet that your vid card wont work to its ful potential because there are no drinevrs for it?

22:15 <MTughan> It does work to its full potential, other than the TV tuner in it.

22:15 <Tank_Master> "other than" /= "full"

22:15 <MTughan> X crashed with the ATI driver.

22:15 <Tank_Master> well, Id blame that on ATI

22:15 <Tank_Master> their drivers suck no matter the OS

22:15 <MTughan> It's a video card with a TV tuner. So the video card works to its full potential.

22:16 <Tank_Master> and it would work with windows, no?

22:16 <MTughan> The TV tuner?

22:16 <Tank_Master> ya

22:17 <MTughan> Yes, because they made a driver that can actually work. But I don't need the TV tuner anymore anyway.

22:17 <Tank_Master> so how can you say there are no driver issues with linux?

22:18 <MTughan> For most standard equipment, there aren't.

22:18 <MTughan> I might have been a little exuberant before, but they are mostly gone.

22:18 <Tank_Master> besides, its up to the manufacture to supply drivers for windows

22:18 <Tank_Master> not the OS

22:18 <MTughan> This is also a 4-year old card.

22:19 <MTughan> No, but having them in the OS helps with smoothness.

22:19 <Tank_Master> true, and SP3 for XP I know added a lot of drivers, same with SP1 for vista

22:19 <MTughan> Not surprising.

22:19 <Tank_Master> 96% of the hardware out today have drivers in SP1 for Vista

22:20 <MTughan> I think Apple still has some of the best driver support around, but that's because they can take the best about this from Linux and Microsoft: Linux, with drivers integrated a lot, and Microsoft, because they are a big company and can negotiate with hardware manufacturers.

22:20 <sethy> i like the way nasa changed the text on the countdown from "Phoenix Touchdown" to "Phoenix tTime on Mars"

22:21 <sethy> s/tT/T

22:21 <MTughan> Now, it's 2:20AM there sethy. Should you still be up?

22:21 <MTughan> Or am I really thinking wrong again...

22:22 <Tank_Master> no, its because they restrict the hardware

22:22 * MTughan hates timezones

22:22 <sethy> its 03:22:08 hete

22:22 <sethy> here

22:22 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Think external keyboard, mice, gaming devices, printers, scanners, cameras, etc.

22:22 <Tank_Master> so they dont have to deal with the vast number of hardware combinations that windows or linix do

22:22 <MTughan> Yes, they do have the advantage with internal hardware.

22:23 <sethy> also, i'm on semester break

22:24 <wdsmia> must be nice

22:24 <sethy> it is

22:24 <Tank_Master>

22:24 <Romulus> Title: NASA - Phoenix (at

22:24 <Tank_Master> pics are up

22:24 <MTughan> Thanks TM.

22:25 <Tank_Master> np

22:25 <sethy> not the origionals

22:25 <Tank_Master> ?

22:25 <wdsmia> looks like mars

22:25 <sethy> 'This is a screen grab taken from NASA TV. '

22:25 <MTughan> It says they're screenshots from NASA TV.

22:25 <sethy> yea ;_;

22:25 <MTughan> lol Doug

22:25 <MTughan> Still looks cool...

22:26 <Tank_Master> look again, sethy

22:26 <Tank_Master> This is a raw, or unprocessed, image taken by the Phoenix lander on Mars

22:26 <wdsmia> not much surface ice

22:26 <MTughan> "This is a raw, or unprocessed, image taken by the Phoenix lander on Mars, May 25, 2008. This is a screen grab taken from NASA TV."

22:26 <Tank_Master> no, there isnt

22:26 <Tank_Master> haha, made you look ;)

22:27 <MTughan> Wha?

22:27 <Tank_Master> lol

22:27 <MTughan> I'm confused...

22:27 <sethy> actually MTughan, step into my office a moment please

22:28 <Tank_Master> hehe

22:28 <MTughan> Now the big question of the night... How?

22:28 <Tank_Master> "busted!"

22:30 <sethy> business is done

22:34 <MTughan> Monday, 26 May 2008, 03:34:30 AM, London

22:34 <MTughan> Dude, I love this clock...

22:34 <Tank_Master> ?

22:35 <Tidus> 0

22:36 <MTughan> I need to crop this... One sec TM.

22:37 <MTughan>

22:37 <Romulus> <> (at

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22:37 <MTughan> In the context menu, there's the option to copy the date and/or the time. That's what I posted up there, so show sethy's time.

22:37 <Tank_Master> its just more than one clock... so?

22:37 <Tank_Master> ahh

22:37 <PovAddict> back

22:37 <Tank_Master> nice

22:37 <MTughan> to*

22:38 <PovAddict> MTughan: what desktop environment?

22:38 <MTughan> Oh, and Linux already had the feature that is Flip 3D in Vista before Vista did, I think.

22:38 <MTughan> PovAddict: You mean GNOME or Compiz?

22:38 <sethy> MTughan: got something for your mac -

22:38 <MTughan> It's called tzclock, as the screenshot is.

22:39 <PovAddict> gnome

22:39 <Tank_Master> MS had the 3D interface about 6 years ago, soon afeter XO came out

22:39 <Tank_Master> XP*

22:39 <MTughan> I can't read it...

22:39 <sethy> read what?

22:39 <Tank_Master> but the lawsite from the DOL delayed ints introduction

22:39 <MTughan> And iStat Menus already has the work clock for me.

22:40 <MTughan> sethy: The shot of the Macbook displaying it. It's too small.

22:40 <MTughan> The image link doesn't go anywhere.

22:40 <sethy> ohyea i know

22:40 <sethy> worth a try though?

22:40 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: DOL?

22:41 <MTughan> I use this on my Mac:

22:41 <Romulus> Title: (at

22:41 <MTughan> Uh, where have you been? I haven't had my Mac for 2, 3 months now.

22:41 <MTughan> I think it's about that long anyway, not sure...

22:41 <sethy> i've been away from this server

22:42 <MTughan> Oh yeah, right...

22:42 <MTughan> Well, that's what I used when I had my Mac.

22:42 <MTughan> Replacement for the standard date/time menu item, more powerful.

22:42 <sethy> had any XP with fluxbox?

22:42 <MTughan> Nope, just GNOME, KDE, and Compiz.

22:43 <PovAddict> sethy: wtf? XP with fluxbox?

22:43 <PovAddict> oh xperience

22:43 <MTughan> experience

22:43 <sethy> ding

22:43 <PovAddict> although if you like simplicity, try litestep on Windows

22:43 <MTughan> I've read about Fluxbox, but never tried it. Want to at some point.

22:43 <PovAddict> I might try KDE4

22:43 <PovAddict> and/or KDE4 window manager on KDE3

22:44 <MTughan> F9 can come with KDE4, but I couldn't figure out how to install it from GNOME...

22:44 <sethy> ?

22:44 <PovAddict> KWin4 has its own compositing features

22:44 <MTughan> Tank_Master is hating this conversation...

22:44 <PovAddict> like I care :P

22:44 <MTughan> Take that!

22:45 <MTughan> Or as Wanda from Corner Gas would say, "Scorch!"

22:45 <sethy> i need to restart and stuff

22:45 <MTughan> Bye.

22:45 <sethy> not now

22:45 <MTughan> Oh... Nuts.

22:45 <MTughan> :P

22:46 <sethy> i wonder if this old box can still run vmware

22:48 <sethy> sofar sogood

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22:49 <MTughan> It's really slow on my 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB of RAM...

22:49 <Romulus> you mean some cores get idle even though there is its all PovAddict

22:49 <MTughan> Don't you just love it when you get flashed by a bot? xD

22:51 <PovAddict> argh

22:52 * Tank_Master hates that bot at times

22:54 <MTughan> xcamel: You listening?

22:54 * Tank_Master blames xcamel for all of Romulus's faults

22:54 <MTughan> I'd like Rommie more without Markov.

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22:56 <Tank_Master> same here

22:56 * efc3 has off topic and generally inappropriate suggestions for Rommie

22:56 <sethy> A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well

22:56 <Tank_Master> like

22:56 <Tank_Master> &go fuch yourself

22:57 <Romulus> Dunno.

22:57 <Tank_Master> &shut it

22:57 <Romulus> No idea!

22:57 <MTughan> &markov go fuch yourself

22:57 <Romulus> MTughan: (markov [<channel>] [word1 [word2]]) -- Returns a randomly-generated Markov Chain generated sentence from the data kept on <channel> (which is only necessary if not sent in the channel itself). If word1 and word2 are specified, they will be used to start the Markov chain.

22:57 <MTughan> &markov go fuch

22:57 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I found a broken link in the Markov chain.  Maybe I received two bad links to start the chain.

22:57 <efc3> &google fuch gradus ad parnassum

22:57 <Romulus> efc3: Search took 0.25 seconds: JSTOR: Gradus ad Parn!@#um : Beethoven, Schubert, and the Romance ...: <>; The Counterpoint Page: <>; Universal Pronouncing Dictionary of Biography and Mythology: < (3 more messages)

23:00 <sethy> question

23:01 <PovAddict> answer

23:01 <sethy> why is everyone at mission controll wearing 3D glasses ?

23:01 <Romulus> it finished with a key was pressed.

23:01 <PovAddict> are they?

23:01 <sethy> well... some of them

23:02 <sethy> UHH took em off now

23:02 <sethy> that guy's going home

23:03 <sethy> full res images are available now from 1st packet

23:03 <sethy> <-- MOTHERLAND

23:03 <Romulus> <> (at

23:07 <sethy> leg - - the dirt looks intreguing

23:07 <Romulus> <> (at

23:08 <MTughan> Well, I'm off to bed. Got school tomorrow...

23:08 <MTughan> And it's getting hot down here.

23:09 <sethy> rest well MTughan

23:11 <sethy> hay PovAddict, i has a mini puddle of blood on my chest :D

23:14 <PovAddict> sethy wtF

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23:24 <sethy> everyone left ;_;

23:25 <wdsmia> yup

23:25 <sethy> so alone

23:27 <wdsmia> what do you expect at this time of the morning (your time) :)

23:28 <sethy> birds to be singing

23:28 <sethy> also, be back in a mo.

23:28 * sethy is begining to digest self

23:30 * wdsmia would be asleep if it wasnt for the tunderstorms and velcro dog

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23:33 <wdsmia> night cows... Moo eddie

23:36 <efc> Moo

23:36 <efc> lost power for a few seconds, hence the efc3

23:37 <wdsmia> with the booms going on outside I may join you soon

23:38 <sethy> not had any thunder here yet

23:38 <sethy> we usually get it around summer

23:38 <efc> Lots around Iowa

23:39 <wdsmia> anyone know how to peel a 110 pound Golden Retiever off my leg?

23:40 <efc> Sorry, the leg is going to have to go

23:40 <wdsmia> he really really hates Thunder

23:41 <efc> we had one like that

23:41 <efc> would come through a window

23:41 <sethy> give him a nice german frankfurter?

23:44 <wdsmia> food doesnt work anymore he finally figured out that if he eats he will have to go out into the storm to crap

23:45 <efc> You could fake a seizure, maybe he will run to town to get help

23:46 <efc> I like doing that when they give out free peanut samples at cracker barrel

23:48 <sethy> its like a dull brown outside..

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23:51 <wdsmia> not sure that nick is a improvement ;)

23:52 <Romulus> dont slap me half an hour?

23:54 * Tank_Master slaps Romulus around a bit with a large trout

23:54 <Tank_Master> oh, thought you said half a minuet

23:54 <Tank_Master> :P

23:57 <wdsmia> &insuslt Tank_Master better known as Buzzard Breath

23:57 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno.

23:57 <wdsmia> &insult Tank_Master

23:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master - You are nothing but a lumpish m!@# of Microsoft-loving heads.

23:57 <wdsmia> lol

23:58 <sethy> i got my headphones to dangle from some string from my room light

23:59 <sethy> so when i sleep the music is infront of me, not right aligned

23:59 <Romulus> looks out the door and they wouldn't develop the project-specific content in UBW; dev stuff stays in Trac

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