IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-06-04

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00:29 <MTughan> Wow, that's ridiculous... Just exploring Apple's store, looked at RAM. They put at least a 400% markup on 4GB for the Macbook models...

00:30 <MTughan> They charge $400 for 4GB. I can get good quality 4GB for $90.

00:31 <MTughan> There's only one other thing I can think of in terms of the memory, and that's the timings, but how fast do you need them?

00:33 <Soul_keeper> yes apple juse took the #1 pc spot for seller of desktops over 2k  i believe

00:34 <MTughan> You mean they're selling more desktops than Win2K?

00:34 <Soul_keeper> no, compared to dell/gateway/etc.

00:34 <Soul_keeper> they sell more computers that cost over 2k than anyone

00:34 <MTughan> I thought they were fairly far down?

00:34 <MTughan> Oh...

00:35 <Soul_keeper> they are far down

00:35 <MTughan> No wonder. The other ones do all cheap stuff.

00:35 <Soul_keeper> but all they sell is high priced stuff

00:35 <MTughan> And then the cheap stuff is obsolete within a year.

00:36 <Soul_keeper> yup

00:36 <MTughan> Hmm... Know anything about SAS?

00:44 <Soul_keeper> it's basically sata for enterprise

00:44 <Soul_keeper> cheaper alternative to scsi

00:45 <Soul_keeper> unless you are atleast a midsized company tho, it's probably still not "cheap"

00:51 <MTughan> All right. So I'll stick with SATA then.

01:04 <Soul_keeper> not sure if SAS supports hot swapping, probably does

01:08 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1289/promise_supertrak_ex_stex8650_8_port_sas/       that review looks reasonable

01:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6l22jz> (at www.tweaktown.com)

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01:28 <Tank_Master> man o man

01:28 * Tank_Master cant wait for the nehalem CPUs to come out

01:28 <Tank_Master> 45% faster than the yorkfiled at the same speed

01:29 <Tank_Master> (at least is on limited synthedic benchmark)

01:29 <Tank_Master> is on -> in one*

01:30 <MTughan> When are they coming out?

01:31 <Tank_Master> Q4

01:31 <Tank_Master> limited release late Q3

01:31 <Tank_Master> but defently this year, with full production Q1 next year

01:31 <MTughan> Looks like I'll be going Yorkfield for my processor then...

01:32 <Tank_Master> and an 8core CPU will be out thie year as well, which will double that benchmark...

01:32 <MTughan> That thing will be damn expensive at first...

01:32 <Tank_Master> probably

01:33 <Tank_Master> its a compleatly new architechture

01:33 <Tank_Master> 32k L1 data, 32k L1 int, 32k L2, 8MB L3

01:33 * Soul_keeper can wait

01:33 <Tank_Master> you can?

01:34 * Tank_Master cant

01:34 <MTughan> All right, so my case has 4 80mm fans... Anyone know some good, quiet, 80mm fans?

01:34 * Tank_Master only uses 120mm

01:34 <MTughan> Or a good name?

01:34 <MTughan> I'd use 120mm, but the spots aren't big enough...

01:35 <Tank_Master> not right off

01:35 <MTughan> And I'm not modding my case.

01:35 <Tank_Master> lol

01:35 <MTughan> Is more fins usually better for airflow?

01:36 <Tank_Master> if placed right, yes

01:43 <Soul_keeper> just get a floppy bay fan speed adjuster

01:43 <Soul_keeper> i've got a vantec one, it connects 4 fans and i can adjust the speed

01:43 <Soul_keeper> fluid dynamic bearings are pretty quiet

01:48 <Tank_Master> oh, cool

01:49 <Tank_Master> meny of the motherboars coming out for the new CPU will have 6 memory slots

01:49 <Tank_Master> so 12GB is possible!

01:50 <Tank_Master> and 6GB rather affordable

01:52 * Tank_Master is listening to: Jose Amnesia Vs. Serp - Second Day (Martin Roth Remix) (Tag's Trip [SomaFM]) and has been listening to SomaFM for: 3102:46

01:58 <Soul_keeper> http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de12ff1.html    i want 3 of these, the most powerfull fan of that size on the market

01:58 <Romulus> Title: Delta FFB1212EH 120x25mm Extreme High Speed (at www.sidewindercomputers.com)

01:59 <Soul_keeper> the louder the better

01:59 <Tank_Master> looks like 4GB moduals will be out this year

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02:20 <efc> moo

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02:23 <efc> 6 slots, haven't seen that in a while

02:24 <Tank_Master> yeah

02:24 <Tank_Master> thatlll be nice

02:24 <Tank_Master> given the quad core with HT = 8 threads

02:25 <Tank_Master> and the octi core with HT will be 16 threads

02:25 <Tank_Master> youll need those 6 slots

02:25 <Romulus> sudo yum install postfix (and so on).

02:25 <efc> I dunno, I don't value the HT part much, that'll cut your cache down to nothing per process

02:26 <Tank_Master> there is 8MB L3

02:26 <efc> still umpteen cores, it can't hurt

02:26 <Tank_Master> and the HT this time isnt like the P4 HT

02:26 <Tank_Master> its better, more effecent

02:28 <Tank_Master> the octicore CPU will be almost 3x faster than a quadcore 45nm yorkfield

02:28 <efc> I'll Buy That For A Dollar

02:29 <Tank_Master> thatll mean what, 15k+ RAC on 64bit ABC?

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06:04 <ponchu> hello

06:04 <ponchu> there is any channel in spanish for BOINC? named me please, thanks

06:05 <ponchu> alguien habla espaol?

06:05 <ponchu> somebody talks spanish?

06:30 <hawmps> a little..

06:36 <ponchu> xDD

06:36 <ponchu> great

06:37 <ponchu> spanish know more english than english know spanish??

06:37 <ponchu> jajajaj

06:42 <hawmps> very little

06:42 <hawmps> and out of practice

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07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140

07:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 66.5F / 19.2C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall...large hail and damaging winds. Highs in the mid 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. (2 more messages)

07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

07:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Chance of rain 70 percent. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the evening. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall...large hail and damaging winds. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Humid with highs around 90. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 (1 more message)

07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

07:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: mph. ; Tornado Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 11:00 AM EDT on June 04, 2008; Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 8:30 AM EDT on June 04, 2008; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 5:00 AM EDT on June 05, 2008; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 8:00 AM EDT on June 04, 2008;

07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> dagnabbit

07:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> nothing quite like being on the other side of the country and watching heavy t-storms rake over the homeplace

07:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> you around, hawmps?

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08:47 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

08:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 63.7F / 17.6C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.58in / 1001.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Patchy fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. High in the upper 70s. East wind 5 to 15 mph. ; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening...then a chance of (2 more messages)

08:47 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the evening. Low in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph in the evening. Chance of precipitation 70 percent. ; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. High in the mid 80s. South wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. ; Flood Warning for Polk County in (1 more message)

08:47 <wdsmia_w> &more

08:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: effect until 6:00 AM CDT on June 10, 2008; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CDT on June 05, 2008;

08:51 <CoderOnTheRoad> morning wdsmia_w

08:52 <wdsmia_w> mornin CoderOnLeftCoast

08:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> heh   it sure is Left out here

08:53 <wdsmia_w> lol

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08:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> breakfast meeting in 1-1/2 hours from now

09:19 <hawmps> 'mornin

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09:30 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello hawmps

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09:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> nasty looking radar yesterday and today

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09:57 <quail> evening all

09:57 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello quail

09:57 <KathrynM> hiya

09:57 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: howdy mate, how is life on the road?

09:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello KathrynM

09:58 <quail> &wx ypad

09:58 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 59°F / 15°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM CST; Overcast. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Rain. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Rain. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:46 F. / 8 C.;

09:58 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

09:58 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 9:17 PM KST; Rain. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Rain. Low:55 F. / 13 C.; Rain. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 F. / 15 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 F. / 16 C.;

09:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> life on the road, when w@#%ing is a special kind of sux

09:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> if vacation, it would be fine

09:59 <quail> hehe, I hear that

09:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> I have a breakfast meeting in a half hour, which I'm leading, so I am packing up here to walk to the meeting room

10:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> I  didn't arrange the facility - I'm supposing their bringing us breakfast

10:00 * CoderOnTheRoad is hungry

10:00 * KathrynM hopes CoderOnTheRoad gets something yummy for breakfast

10:00 * CoderOnTheRoad seconds that notion

10:01 * KathrynM uploads a test to her skydrive

10:01 <quail> mmm bacon n eggs, toast, steak

10:02 * KathrynM falls into bed after a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry long day

10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> if the pattern continues, each of those would be stone cold

10:02 <KathrynM> 3 hours of sleep in the last 48

10:02 <KathrynM> &nn

10:02 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> what are you thinking

10:02 <KathrynM> sleeping?

10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya KathrynM  - sleep well

10:02 <KathrynM> I know.  Crazy talk.

10:02 <KathrynM> Good luck with the beating

10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol

10:02 <KathrynM> errrr

10:02 <KathrynM> meeting

10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> =)  thanks

10:02 <quail> KathrynM: sounds like my ~42 hours work in 3 1/2 days last week

10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> it's an important one

10:03 <KathrynM> we had one of those yesterday.  an hour after w(#*

10:03 <KathrynM> later gators

10:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm going to shut down the laptop

10:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya folks

10:03 * KathrynM notes she's away

10:03 <quail> night night KathrynM

10:03 * KathrynM makes it so

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10:30 <quail> http://www.break.com/index/office-worker-goes-absolutely-insane.html got stress?

10:30 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5ur7eh> (at www.break.com)

10:35 <quail> http://www.break.com/index/office-worker-meltdown-second-angle.html

10:35 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6hbnte> (at www.break.com)

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10:48 <hawmps> 'lo Q

10:50 <quail> howdy Jay

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10:55 <hawmps> been enjoying hearing the news from Oz via shortwave from Adelaide...

10:56 <Romulus> all 4 cpu's cooking with abc suspended

10:56 <hawmps> comes in great here...

10:58 <quail> hawmps: you listening to the ABC?

11:16 <quail> damn nexstorm does not work under linux

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11:19 <Bravewolf> Are there any improve on performance using a 64bit system?

11:19 <quail> Bravewolf: hell yeah

11:22 <Bravewolf> quail: thanks for your reply

11:22 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8200  @ 2.66GHz 1998.000 MHz | Bogomips: 10682.54 | Mem: 3444/3959M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 226.79G Free: 173.94G | Procs: 121 | Uptime: 7 hrs 3 mins 34 secs | Load: 0.33 0.38 0.40  | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) @ 1440x900 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 3.34M Out: 2.74M

11:22 <quail> Sensors: HDD:

11:24 <Bravewolf> quail: How do you obtain such infos? I'm on linux, too.

11:24 <quail> Bravewolf: it a perl plug in for irssi/xchat

11:26 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm on xchat... what's the name of this plug-in?

11:26 <quail> Bravewolf: http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/pub/sysinfo.txt

11:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6k7bea> (at quail.southernvaleslug.org)

11:27 <quail> change the txt to pl

11:29 <quail> Bravewolf: then chmod a+x sysinfo.pl

11:30 <quail> Bravewolf: and the place the script in .xchat2 dir 'cp sysinfo.pl ~/.xchat2/sysinfo.pl'

11:31 <quail> Bravewolf: and if iirc in xchat all you have to do is type /load script sysinfo

11:31 <quail> but I am not sure as I use irssi

11:32 <quail> and to get it to out sysinfo type /sys in the xchat input bar

11:39 <Bravewolf> quail: thanks! I'm going to try. Excuse me for the delay... but a made a stupid mistake... fortunately /etc/security/limits.conf saved me...

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11:44 <hawmps> Q - yeah.. ABC news, Adelaide..

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11:53 <Bravewolf> quail: the plugin is already loaded but /sys won't work :-/

11:56 <quail> Bravewolf: hmmm, not sure what happening then as I don't use xchat

11:57 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm not so expert in IRC... /load will also execute the script? However I tried the script in console and it works well

11:57 <Bravewolf> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.22-14-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T7300  @ 2.00GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 8110.8 | Mem: 1491/2026M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 134.01G Free: 25.06G | Procs: 158 | Uptime: 2 hrs 44 mins 20 secs | Load: 2.31 2.88 6.55  | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GT (rev a1) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) | eth2: In: 21.92M Out: 3.23M

11:57 <Bravewolf> Sensors: HDD:

11:58 <quail> Bravewolf: looks like it working to me

11:59 <quail> Bravewolf: I gather you are using a laptop?

12:01 <Bravewolf> quail: yes, a laptop. T7300 and 8600M reveals it :-)

12:01 <quail> how hot does your laptop get boincing?

12:04 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm pretty new in BOINC... I began to contribute 2 days ago... However the CPU clock isn't raised by boinc-client and it remains at 800 MHz. So the temperatures aren't so hot. Core0 +49°C, Core1 +48°C, HDD 45°C

12:05 <quail> Bravewolf: do you use a cooler pad under laptop?

12:05 <Bravewolf> quail: No

12:06 <quail> ok

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12:08 <quail> Bravewolf: this my laptop

12:08 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 |  Dual Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2050  @ 1.60GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 6404.05 | Mem: 622/1003M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.13G Free: 63.93G | Procs: 122 | Uptime: 2 days 7 hrs 19 mins 45 secs | Load: 0.06 0.02 0.00  | Screen: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) GPU clock:  | wlan0: In: 94.58M Ou

12:09 <quail> and my laptop running debian testing (lenny)

12:09 <Bravewolf> quail: what about the temperatures?

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12:11 <quail> Bravewolf: Core 0:      +36.0°C  (crit = +85.0°C) | Core 1:      +33.0°C  (crit = +85.0°C)

12:11 <quail> HDD temp 29°C

12:11 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm now on gutsy, but I planned to switch to lenny when it will be full frozen... and if the debian developers would unblock the kernel module needed by my dvd readere

12:12 <quail> Bravewolf: what module that?

12:14 <Bravewolf> quail: WOW. My laptop is hotter than your just 5 minutes after powered on (with BOINC down). I would imagine that you have a cooler pad.

12:14 <Bravewolf> quail: ata_piix

12:16 <quail> ata_piix is in my kernel

12:17 <quail> yeah my laptop is always on a cooler pad

12:17 <quail> but my laptop does not boinc tho

12:18 <quail> and it always working hard tho controling other machines

12:19 <Bravewolf> ata_piix is the kernel, but some line of the code are commented. (bug #444182)

12:20 <quail> I can't install debian lenny on my desktop as the installer can't find my cd rom

12:20 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm thinking to buy a cooler pad... my laptop doesn't have a well cooler system :-(

12:21 <quail> do you have a acer laptop by any chance?

12:21 <Bravewolf> quail: very strange... have you tried also etch installer? lenny beta1 has some problems

12:22 <quail> yeah I have tried etch

12:22 <Bravewolf> quail: you can also use floppy boot

12:23 <quail> Bravewolf: I have worked out the prob with my desktop it cause the ide backend is sata

12:24 <quail> and it not true IDE

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12:25 <quail> I am getting a sata dvd rw later this week and it might be a diff story

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14:03 <PovAdct_w> &ping

14:03 <Romulus> pong

14:03 <PovAdct_w> damn quiet channel then

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14:09 <FreeLarry58> yeah evry one asleep

14:09 <FreeLarry58> getting ready to bur f9 dvd again

14:11 <FreeLarry58> hope iso get extracted correctly this time if not will try the other one where i extracted the files already

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14:27 * FreeLarry58 wonders if he should try making vista machine dual boot with f9?

14:27 <FreeLarry58> &8ball will a dual boot setup wrk on vista machine?

14:27 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: No clue.

14:27 <FreeLarry58> &8ball will a dual boot setup work on vista machine?

14:27 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Naturally.

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14:28 <FreeLarry58> sounds like Romulus not wanting to comment

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14:30 <FreeLarry58> wb yoyo[RKN]

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15:03 <hawmps> boodah...boodah...

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16:52 <xcamel> re-hi

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17:42 <PovAddict> my mouse wheel is dying

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19:02 <xcamel> bbac..

19:22 <MTughan> All right, I think I have to go for a while, rewire my comp...

19:22 <MTughan> I never did really keep the cabling clean, and now I'm regretting it.

19:23 <MTughan> And I don't think it's exactly wise to go about rewiring some parts of my computer with it running. xD

19:23 <MTughan> I've pulled the hard drive cage out, but that's it.

19:24 <MTughan> One more thing first...

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19:25 <PovAddict> isn't it steve jobs who always says "one more thing" at the end of keynotes?

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19:33 <MTughan> Could be.

19:34 <MTughan> Found another fan manufacturer I want to check out first...

19:34 <MTughan> 14dBA for 32CFM.

19:34 <MTughan> Pretty darn good considering the next best I found is 20dBA for 28CFM.

19:35 <MTughan> These are 80mm fans, BTW.

19:37 <MTughan> www.silenx.com if you're interested.

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19:56 <MTughan> All right, shutting down. Back in 30 minutes to an hour, I'd say. Could be longer.

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19:57 <PovAddict> if he isn't back in a week, he got electrocuted

20:34 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 71.2F / 21.8C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.54in / 1000.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Thunderstorms likely in the evening...then a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall after midnight. Low in the mid 60s. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 70 (2 more messages)

20:35 <wdsmia> &more

20:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent. ; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the morning. Breezy. High in the mid 80s. Southeast wind 15 to 25 mph. ; Thursday Night - Thunderstorms likely in the evening...then thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall. Low in the upper 60s. South wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 90 percent. ; Tornado Watch for Polk (1 more message)

20:35 <wdsmia> &more

20:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: County in effect until 12:00 AM CDT on June 05, 2008; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 4:25 AM CDT on June 08, 2008; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 7:00 AM CDT on June 05, 2008;

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20:49 <wdsmia> looks like its going to be another flash Boom! kind of night

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22:11 <surrealillusion> ok just got my antec nine hundred gaming case set up

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22:12 <surrealillusion> with my O/C'd boinc gaming system

22:12 <surrealillusion> now to test the heat

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22:17 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

22:17 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 59.4F / 15.2C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.18in / 988.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Drizzle | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers. Patchy fog. Highs 62 to 67 in the western valleys to 65 to 70 near the foothills. Winds west 15 mph with gusts to 30 mph. Chance of measurable precipitation 20 percent. ; Tonight - (1 more message)

22:39 <surrealillusion> amazing

22:39 <surrealillusion> a full 10C cooler so far

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22:40 <MTughan> Okay, almost 3 hours...

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22:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 92236

22:52 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 78F / 26C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 29.44in / 997hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 85 to 90. Winds northwest 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 55 mph. Areas of blowing sand and blowing dust. ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 64 to 71. Winds northwest 20 to 30 mph. Near Banning pass...winds northwest (1 more message)

22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> 55mph  -  lots of blowing sand here!

22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

22:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: 35 to 40 mph... becoming 20 to 30 mph after midnight. Gusts to 55 mph...becoming 40 mph after midnight. Areas of blowing sand and blowing dust. ; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs 91 to 96. Winds northwest 15 to 20 mph. Gusts to 35 mph in the morning. ; High Wind Warning for Riverside County in effect until 3:00 AM PDT on June 05, 2008;

22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140

22:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 65.6F / 18.7C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely this evening...a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Clearing. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent. ; Thursday - A 40 percent chance of (1 more message)

22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

22:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: showers and thunderstorms in the morning...otherwise mostly sunny. Humid with highs around 90. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds around 10 mph. ; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 PM EDT on June 06, 2008; Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 12:00 AM EDT on June 05, 2008;

22:55 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: howdy

22:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello quail

22:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> packing up heree

23:00 <quail> you heading home?

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23:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> tomorrow, yes =)

23:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> It'll be good to get back

23:00 <PovIpod> hey

23:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey PovIpod  =)

23:00 <quail> :-)

23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> I was just looking for my iPod here in the room

23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> couldn't find it =(

23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> called home

23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> it was in the bag that I first had everytghing in, b ut was too small =)

23:02 <MTughan> Your bag was too small for an iPod?

23:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> it didn't make the trip, so it didn't get lost

23:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> yeah, that's it exactly, MTughan  =)

23:02 <PovIpod> security is rarely convenient; I put a password on my iPod just so my sister doesnt use it but its annoying to type in every time I unlock the screen

23:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol  that topic came up in a sesion today

23:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> I got to share with a big group (TM)

23:03 <PovIpod> tm & (C) CFL, etc

23:03 <efc> moo

23:03 <PovIpod> (your phrase)

23:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> A lady was complaining how inconvenient it was to configure her portal security

23:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey efc =)

23:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> at least my iPod was found safe at home

23:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> I was going to use it on the 3-1/2 hour fkight back

23:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> er flight

23:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> maybe I'll just use my noise canceling headphones by themselves

23:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> I plan to read a book on the Kindle

23:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> which reminds me...

23:07 <PovIpod> cool

23:07 * CoderOnTheRoad goes to plug in the Kindle to be sure it;s fully charged

23:07 <PovIpod> how good are those ?

23:08 <PovIpod> good resolution/contrast/battery life?

23:08 <MTughan> And I might have been premature with the fan upgrades... The stock fans apparently pull 26CFM at 23dBA.

23:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> they're OK - takes some getting used to

23:08 <MTughan> Which comparing with what I was upgrading too, isn't too much difference.

23:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> good rez, good battery life if you don't switch on the antenna

23:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> man, it's windy outside

23:09 <MTughan> Was wanting to put LED fans in the front, but the ones I was looking at are less powerful than these...

23:09 <PovIpod> well, wrt reading comfort, nothing would beat dead tree

23:09 <MTughan> CoderOnTheRoad: Send some down. :P

23:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> the umbrellas at the pool are blowing away

23:09 <PovIpod> &wx buenos aires

23:09 <Romulus> PovIpod: Temperature: 59.2°F / 15.1°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 12:09 AM ART; Overcast. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:53 F. / 12 C.; Overcast. High:66 F. / 19 C.; Clear. Low:53 F. / 12 C.; Clear. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Clear. Low:44 F. / 7 C.;

23:10 <CoderOnTheRoad> what I miss is the feeling of progeress - with a physical book, you can easily see -even feel - how far you are

23:10 * PovIpod points CotR at the humidity

23:10 <CoderOnTheRoad> the Kindle holds a tons of books - but they are somewhat ethereal

23:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> I am currently reading "Red Mars" by Kim Stanley Robinson

23:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> "Green Mars" is downloaded and waiting

23:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> then it's onto "Blue Mars" and then "The Martians" - both yet to be bought/downloaded

23:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> NONE OF THIS REPLACES CODING

23:12 * CoderOnTheRoad feels better now

23:13 <Soul_keeper> aren't those all pdf ebooks on the kindle ?

23:14 <Soul_keeper> i'd rather read html format books on a UMPC

23:14 <PovIpod> sk: I don't think so

23:14 <PovIpod> most probably some DRMd format

23:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> nope  Amazon format - although you can download PDFs to it, and get things like Word docs converted and sent to it

23:16 <MTughan> Wow, these fans can go pretty quiet when you rev them down...

23:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> oh, just looked at your Humididity PovIpod

23:16 <Soul_keeper> 5v mod makes things quiet ...

23:16 <MTughan> SK: What's that?

23:17 <Soul_keeper> run your 12v fans off the 5v rails

23:17 <CoderOnTheRoad> when they said "Clear" they meant the visibility in the water you're swimming in PovIpod

23:17 <MTughan> How do I tell which are the 5v rails?

23:17 <MTughan> The one's marked Fan Only?

23:18 <Soul_keeper> the red on the molex connector is 5v

23:18 <MTughan> And the yellow and black?

23:18 <Soul_keeper> yellow is 12v and black is ground

23:18 <PovIpod> MT just don't blow it up :)

23:18 <MTughan> I'll have to see which one's are being diverted...

23:19 <PovIpod> ok sleep for real now

23:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya PovIpod

23:19 <PovIpod> bai

23:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> MTughan: don't let the smoke out - it's the smoke that makes it work

23:19 <PovIpod> that's what *I* said

23:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> yup after a fashion

23:20 <PovIpod> magic smoke that powers all electrical devices

23:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> yep - the secret sauce

23:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> pixie dust

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23:23 <MTughan> Hmm, you're right. The top fan has a Molex adapter, but the hot goes to the yellow line.

23:24 * CoderOnTheRoad feels his eyes fading

23:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> time for ZZZ

23:24 <MTughan> Same with the front fans, although they have another controller on them.

23:24 <efc> night CFL

23:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> tomorrow night -in my own bed

23:25 <CoderOnTheRoad> gn Soul_keeper MTughan efc

23:25 <efc> People are reviewing the poor Atom with Vista, chip abuse

23:25 <Soul_keeper> late

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23:25 <Soul_keeper> efc, yeah it wasn't made for performance

23:25 <Soul_keeper> it's for sub 600 dollar MIDs and UMPCs

23:25 <efc> needs a lighter weight os

23:26 <Soul_keeper> linux would probably run perfect on it :)

23:26 <MTughan> Yep, the noisest fan in the machine is definitely the top one...

23:26 <efc> 2K would be good if it had the drivers

23:27 <MTughan> Then the VGA drivers...

23:28 <MTughan> fan*

23:28 * MTughan smacks himself

23:29 <efc> Its pretty sad when XP seems lean and mean..

23:30 <Soul_keeper> i think via's nano  will be better than atom

23:31 <Soul_keeper> ?Our roadmap has us going there (the UMPC market) in the future?the first half of 2010. We will have products that play into that space when we believe that growth warrants it,? says Shutter.

23:32 <Soul_keeper> amd is apparently not even attempting to enter that market for another 2+ yrs

23:32 <efc> I dunno, intel has an advantage with the 45 nm stuff for now

23:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah

23:36 <Soul_keeper> TongFang   (asia only company)  will be the first with a "nano" (Isaiah) based product,  they were the first to release a C7 product when they came out, but they don't sell in the US

23:38 <efc> At least if Intel does something it will usually be pretty solid driver wise

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