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00:29 <MTughan> Wow, that's ridiculous... Just exploring Apple's store, looked at RAM. They put at least a 400% markup on 4GB for the Macbook models...
00:30 <MTughan> They charge $400 for 4GB. I can get good quality 4GB for $90.
00:31 <MTughan> There's only one other thing I can think of in terms of the memory, and that's the timings, but how fast do you need them?
00:33 <Soul_keeper> yes apple juse took the #1 pc spot for seller of desktops over 2k i believe
00:34 <MTughan> You mean they're selling more desktops than Win2K?
00:34 <Soul_keeper> no, compared to dell/gateway/etc.
00:34 <Soul_keeper> they sell more computers that cost over 2k than anyone
00:34 <MTughan> I thought they were fairly far down?
00:34 <MTughan> Oh...
00:35 <Soul_keeper> they are far down
00:35 <MTughan> No wonder. The other ones do all cheap stuff.
00:35 <Soul_keeper> but all they sell is high priced stuff
00:35 <MTughan> And then the cheap stuff is obsolete within a year.
00:36 <Soul_keeper> yup
00:36 <MTughan> Hmm... Know anything about SAS?
00:44 <Soul_keeper> it's basically sata for enterprise
00:44 <Soul_keeper> cheaper alternative to scsi
00:45 <Soul_keeper> unless you are atleast a midsized company tho, it's probably still not "cheap"
00:51 <MTughan> All right. So I'll stick with SATA then.
01:04 <Soul_keeper> not sure if SAS supports hot swapping, probably does
01:08 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1289/promise_supertrak_ex_stex8650_8_port_sas/ that review looks reasonable
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01:28 <Tank_Master> man o man
01:28 * Tank_Master cant wait for the nehalem CPUs to come out
01:28 <Tank_Master> 45% faster than the yorkfiled at the same speed
01:29 <Tank_Master> (at least is on limited synthedic benchmark)
01:29 <Tank_Master> is on -> in one*
01:30 <MTughan> When are they coming out?
01:31 <Tank_Master> Q4
01:31 <Tank_Master> limited release late Q3
01:31 <Tank_Master> but defently this year, with full production Q1 next year
01:31 <MTughan> Looks like I'll be going Yorkfield for my processor then...
01:32 <Tank_Master> and an 8core CPU will be out thie year as well, which will double that benchmark...
01:32 <MTughan> That thing will be damn expensive at first...
01:32 <Tank_Master> probably
01:33 <Tank_Master> its a compleatly new architechture
01:33 <Tank_Master> 32k L1 data, 32k L1 int, 32k L2, 8MB L3
01:33 * Soul_keeper can wait
01:33 <Tank_Master> you can?
01:34 * Tank_Master cant
01:34 <MTughan> All right, so my case has 4 80mm fans... Anyone know some good, quiet, 80mm fans?
01:34 * Tank_Master only uses 120mm
01:34 <MTughan> Or a good name?
01:34 <MTughan> I'd use 120mm, but the spots aren't big enough...
01:35 <Tank_Master> not right off
01:35 <MTughan> And I'm not modding my case.
01:35 <Tank_Master> lol
01:35 <MTughan> Is more fins usually better for airflow?
01:36 <Tank_Master> if placed right, yes
01:43 <Soul_keeper> just get a floppy bay fan speed adjuster
01:43 <Soul_keeper> i've got a vantec one, it connects 4 fans and i can adjust the speed
01:43 <Soul_keeper> fluid dynamic bearings are pretty quiet
01:48 <Tank_Master> oh, cool
01:49 <Tank_Master> meny of the motherboars coming out for the new CPU will have 6 memory slots
01:49 <Tank_Master> so 12GB is possible!
01:50 <Tank_Master> and 6GB rather affordable
01:52 * Tank_Master is listening to: Jose Amnesia Vs. Serp - Second Day (Martin Roth Remix) (Tag's Trip [SomaFM]) and has been listening to SomaFM for: 3102:46
01:58 <Romulus> Title: Delta FFB1212EH 120x25mm Extreme High Speed (at www.sidewindercomputers.com)
01:59 <Soul_keeper> the louder the better
01:59 <Tank_Master> looks like 4GB moduals will be out this year
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02:20 <efc> moo
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02:23 <efc> 6 slots, haven't seen that in a while
02:24 <Tank_Master> yeah
02:24 <Tank_Master> thatlll be nice
02:24 <Tank_Master> given the quad core with HT = 8 threads
02:25 <Tank_Master> and the octi core with HT will be 16 threads
02:25 <Tank_Master> youll need those 6 slots
02:25 <Romulus> sudo yum install postfix (and so on).
02:25 <efc> I dunno, I don't value the HT part much, that'll cut your cache down to nothing per process
02:26 <Tank_Master> there is 8MB L3
02:26 <efc> still umpteen cores, it can't hurt
02:26 <Tank_Master> and the HT this time isnt like the P4 HT
02:26 <Tank_Master> its better, more effecent
02:28 <Tank_Master> the octicore CPU will be almost 3x faster than a quadcore 45nm yorkfield
02:28 <efc> I'll Buy That For A Dollar
02:29 <Tank_Master> thatll mean what, 15k+ RAC on 64bit ABC?
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06:04 <ponchu> hello
06:04 <ponchu> there is any channel in spanish for BOINC? named me please, thanks
06:05 <ponchu> alguien habla español?
06:05 <ponchu> somebody talks spanish?
06:30 <hawmps> a little..
06:36 <ponchu> xDD
06:36 <ponchu> great
06:37 <ponchu> spanish know more english than english know spanish??
06:37 <ponchu> jajajaj
06:42 <hawmps> very little
06:42 <hawmps> and out of practice
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07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140
07:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 66.5°F / 19.2°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.5mph / 5.6km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall...large hail and damaging winds. Highs in the mid 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. (2 more messages)
07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
07:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Chance of rain 70 percent. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the evening. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall...large hail and damaging winds. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Humid with highs around 90. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 (1 more message)
07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
07:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: mph. ; Tornado Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 11:00 AM EDT on June 04, 2008; Severe Thunderstorm Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 8:30 AM EDT on June 04, 2008; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 5:00 AM EDT on June 05, 2008; Special Weather Statement for Hamilton County in effect until 8:00 AM EDT on June 04, 2008;
07:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> dagnabbit
07:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> nothing quite like being on the other side of the country and watching heavy t-storms rake over the homeplace
07:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> you around, hawmps?
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08:47 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319
08:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 63.7°F / 17.6°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.58in / 1001.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Patchy fog in the morning. Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. High in the upper 70s. East wind 5 to 15 mph. ; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening...then a chance of (2 more messages)
08:47 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the evening. Low in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph in the evening. Chance of precipitation 70 percent. ; Thursday - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. High in the mid 80s. South wind 10 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. ; Flood Warning for Polk County in (1 more message)
08:47 <wdsmia_w> &more
08:47 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: effect until 6:00 AM CDT on June 10, 2008; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 12:00 AM CDT on June 05, 2008;
08:51 <CoderOnTheRoad> morning wdsmia_w
08:52 <wdsmia_w> mornin CoderOnLeftCoast
08:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> heh it sure is Left out here
08:53 <wdsmia_w> lol
08:58 * CoderOnTheRoad hits the shower
08:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> breakfast meeting in 1-1/2 hours from now
09:19 <hawmps> 'mornin
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09:30 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello hawmps
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09:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> nasty looking radar yesterday and today
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09:57 <quail> evening all
09:57 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello quail
09:57 <KathrynM> hiya
09:57 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: howdy mate, how is life on the road?
09:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello KathrynM
09:58 <quail> &wx ypad
09:58 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 59Â°F / 15Â°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 30.27in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM CST; Overcast. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Rain. Low:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.; Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.;
09:58 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan
09:58 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 57Â°F / 14Â°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 9:17 PM KST; Rain. High:69 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Rain. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Rain. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.;
09:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> life on the road, when w@#%ing is a special kind of sux
09:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> if vacation, it would be fine
09:59 <quail> hehe, I hear that
09:59 <CoderOnTheRoad> I have a breakfast meeting in a half hour, which I'm leading, so I am packing up here to walk to the meeting room
10:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> I didn't arrange the facility - I'm supposing their bringing us breakfast
10:00 * CoderOnTheRoad is hungry
10:00 * KathrynM hopes CoderOnTheRoad gets something yummy for breakfast
10:00 * CoderOnTheRoad seconds that notion
10:01 * KathrynM uploads a test to her skydrive
10:01 <quail> mmm bacon n eggs, toast, steak
10:02 * KathrynM falls into bed after a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry long day
10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> if the pattern continues, each of those would be stone cold
10:02 <KathrynM> 3 hours of sleep in the last 48
10:02 <KathrynM> &nn
10:02 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> what are you thinking
10:02 <KathrynM> sleeping?
10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya KathrynM - sleep well
10:02 <KathrynM> I know. Crazy talk.
10:02 <KathrynM> Good luck with the beating
10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol
10:02 <KathrynM> errrr
10:02 <KathrynM> meeting
10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> =) thanks
10:02 <quail> KathrynM: sounds like my ~42 hours work in 3 1/2 days last week
10:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> it's an important one
10:03 <KathrynM> we had one of those yesterday. an hour after w(#*
10:03 <KathrynM> later gators
10:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm going to shut down the laptop
10:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya folks
10:03 * KathrynM notes she's away
10:03 <quail> night night KathrynM
10:03 * KathrynM makes it so
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10:30 <quail> http://www.break.com/index/office-worker-goes-absolutely-insane.html got stress?
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10:48 <hawmps> 'lo Q
10:50 <quail> howdy Jay
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10:55 <hawmps> been enjoying hearing the news from Oz via shortwave from Adelaide...
10:56 <Romulus> all 4 cpu's cooking with abc suspended
10:56 <hawmps> comes in great here...
10:58 <quail> hawmps: you listening to the ABC?
11:16 <quail> damn nexstorm does not work under linux
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11:19 <Bravewolf> Are there any improve on performance using a 64bit system?
11:19 <quail> Bravewolf: hell yeah
11:22 <Bravewolf> quail: thanks for your reply
11:22 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-16-generic | Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8200 @ 2.66GHz 1998.000 MHz | Bogomips: 10682.54 | Mem: 3444/3959M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 226.79G Free: 173.94G | Procs: 121 | Uptime: 7 hrs 3 mins 34 secs | Load: 0.33 0.38 0.40 | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) @ 1440x900 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 3.34M Out: 2.74M
11:22 <quail> Sensors: HDD:
11:24 <Bravewolf> quail: How do you obtain such infos? I'm on linux, too.
11:24 <quail> Bravewolf: it a perl plug in for irssi/xchat
11:26 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm on xchat... what's the name of this plug-in?
11:27 <quail> change the txt to pl
11:29 <quail> Bravewolf: then chmod a+x sysinfo.pl
11:30 <quail> Bravewolf: and the place the script in .xchat2 dir 'cp sysinfo.pl ~/.xchat2/sysinfo.pl'
11:31 <quail> Bravewolf: and if iirc in xchat all you have to do is type /load script sysinfo
11:31 <quail> but I am not sure as I use irssi
11:32 <quail> and to get it to out sysinfo type /sys in the xchat input bar
11:39 <Bravewolf> quail: thanks! I'm going to try. Excuse me for the delay... but a made a stupid mistake... fortunately /etc/security/limits.conf saved me...
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11:44 <hawmps> Q - yeah.. ABC news, Adelaide..
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11:53 <Bravewolf> quail: the plugin is already loaded but /sys won't work :-/
11:56 <quail> Bravewolf: hmmm, not sure what happening then as I don't use xchat
11:57 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm not so expert in IRC... /load will also execute the script? However I tried the script in console and it works well
11:57 <Bravewolf> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.22-14-generic | Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 8110.8 | Mem: 1491/2026M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 134.01G Free: 25.06G | Procs: 158 | Uptime: 2 hrs 44 mins 20 secs | Load: 2.31 2.88 6.55 | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GT (rev a1) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) | eth2: In: 21.92M Out: 3.23M
11:57 <Bravewolf> Sensors: HDD:
11:58 <quail> Bravewolf: looks like it working to me
11:59 <quail> Bravewolf: I gather you are using a laptop?
12:01 <Bravewolf> quail: yes, a laptop. T7300 and 8600M reveals it :-)
12:01 <quail> how hot does your laptop get boincing?
12:04 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm pretty new in BOINC... I began to contribute 2 days ago... However the CPU clock isn't raised by boinc-client and it remains at 800 MHz. So the temperatures aren't so hot. Core0 +49Â°C, Core1 +48Â°C, HDD 45Â°C
12:05 <quail> Bravewolf: do you use a cooler pad under laptop?
12:05 <Bravewolf> quail: No
12:06 <quail> ok
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12:08 <quail> Bravewolf: this my laptop
12:08 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 | Dual Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 6404.05 | Mem: 622/1003M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.13G Free: 63.93G | Procs: 122 | Uptime: 2 days 7 hrs 19 mins 45 secs | Load: 0.06 0.02 0.00 | Screen: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) GPU clock: | wlan0: In: 94.58M Ou
12:09 <quail> and my laptop running debian testing (lenny)
12:09 <Bravewolf> quail: what about the temperatures?
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12:11 <quail> Bravewolf: Core 0: +36.0Â°C (crit = +85.0Â°C) | Core 1: +33.0Â°C (crit = +85.0Â°C)
12:11 <quail> HDD temp 29Â°C
12:11 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm now on gutsy, but I planned to switch to lenny when it will be full frozen... and if the debian developers would unblock the kernel module needed by my dvd readere
12:12 <quail> Bravewolf: what module that?
12:14 <Bravewolf> quail: WOW. My laptop is hotter than your just 5 minutes after powered on (with BOINC down). I would imagine that you have a cooler pad.
12:14 <Bravewolf> quail: ata_piix
12:16 <quail> ata_piix is in my kernel
12:17 <quail> yeah my laptop is always on a cooler pad
12:17 <quail> but my laptop does not boinc tho
12:18 <quail> and it always working hard tho controling other machines
12:19 <Bravewolf> ata_piix is the kernel, but some line of the code are commented. (bug #444182)
12:20 <quail> I can't install debian lenny on my desktop as the installer can't find my cd rom
12:20 <Bravewolf> quail: I'm thinking to buy a cooler pad... my laptop doesn't have a well cooler system :-(
12:21 <quail> do you have a acer laptop by any chance?
12:21 <Bravewolf> quail: very strange... have you tried also etch installer? lenny beta1 has some problems
12:22 <quail> yeah I have tried etch
12:22 <Bravewolf> quail: you can also use floppy boot
12:23 <quail> Bravewolf: I have worked out the prob with my desktop it cause the ide backend is sata
12:24 <quail> and it not true IDE
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12:25 <quail> I am getting a sata dvd rw later this week and it might be a diff story
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14:03 <PovAdct_w> &ping
14:03 <Romulus> pong
14:03 <PovAdct_w> damn quiet channel then
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14:09 <FreeLarry58> yeah evry one asleep
14:09 <FreeLarry58> getting ready to bur f9 dvd again
14:11 <FreeLarry58> hope iso get extracted correctly this time if not will try the other one where i extracted the files already
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14:27 * FreeLarry58 wonders if he should try making vista machine dual boot with f9?
14:27 <FreeLarry58> &8ball will a dual boot setup wrk on vista machine?
14:27 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: No clue.
14:27 <FreeLarry58> &8ball will a dual boot setup work on vista machine?
14:27 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Naturally.
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14:28 <FreeLarry58> sounds like Romulus not wanting to comment
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14:30 <FreeLarry58> wb yoyo[RKN]
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15:03 <hawmps> boodah...boodah...
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16:52 <xcamel> re-hi
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17:42 <PovAddict> my mouse wheel is dying
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19:02 <xcamel> bbac..
19:22 <MTughan> All right, I think I have to go for a while, rewire my comp...
19:22 <MTughan> I never did really keep the cabling clean, and now I'm regretting it.
19:23 <MTughan> And I don't think it's exactly wise to go about rewiring some parts of my computer with it running. xD
19:23 <MTughan> I've pulled the hard drive cage out, but that's it.
19:24 <MTughan> One more thing first...
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19:25 <PovAddict> isn't it steve jobs who always says "one more thing" at the end of keynotes?
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19:33 <MTughan> Could be.
19:34 <MTughan> Found another fan manufacturer I want to check out first...
19:34 <MTughan> 14dBA for 32CFM.
19:34 <MTughan> Pretty darn good considering the next best I found is 20dBA for 28CFM.
19:35 <MTughan> These are 80mm fans, BTW.
19:37 <MTughan> www.silenx.com if you're interested.
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19:56 <MTughan> All right, shutting down. Back in 30 minutes to an hour, I'd say. Could be longer.
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19:57 <PovAddict> if he isn't back in a week, he got electrocuted
20:34 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
20:34 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 71.2°F / 21.8°C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 29.54in / 1000.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Unknown | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Thunderstorms likely in the evening...then a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall after midnight. Low in the mid 60s. East wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 70 (2 more messages)
20:35 <wdsmia> &more
20:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: percent. ; Thursday - Mostly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the morning. Breezy. High in the mid 80s. Southeast wind 15 to 25 mph. ; Thursday Night - Thunderstorms likely in the evening...then thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall. Low in the upper 60s. South wind 15 to 20 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 90 percent. ; Tornado Watch for Polk (1 more message)
20:35 <wdsmia> &more
20:35 <Romulus> wdsmia: County in effect until 12:00 AM CDT on June 05, 2008; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 4:25 AM CDT on June 08, 2008; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 7:00 AM CDT on June 05, 2008;
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20:49 <wdsmia> looks like its going to be another flash Boom! kind of night
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22:11 <surrealillusion> ok just got my antec nine hundred gaming case set up
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22:12 <surrealillusion> with my O/C'd boinc gaming system
22:12 <surrealillusion> now to test the heat
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22:17 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
22:17 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 59.4°F / 15.2°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.18in / 988.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Drizzle | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers. Patchy fog. Highs 62 to 67 in the western valleys to 65 to 70 near the foothills. Winds west 15 mph with gusts to 30 mph. Chance of measurable precipitation 20 percent. ; Tonight - (1 more message)
22:39 <surrealillusion> amazing
22:39 <surrealillusion> a full 10C cooler so far
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22:40 <MTughan> Okay, almost 3 hours...
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22:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 92236
22:52 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 78°F / 26°C | Humidity: 32% | Pressure: 29.44in / 997hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 28mph / 44km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 85 to 90. Winds northwest 20 to 30 mph with gusts to 55 mph. Areas of blowing sand and blowing dust. ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 64 to 71. Winds northwest 20 to 30 mph. Near Banning pass...winds northwest (1 more message)
22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> 55mph - lots of blowing sand here!
22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
22:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: 35 to 40 mph... becoming 20 to 30 mph after midnight. Gusts to 55 mph...becoming 40 mph after midnight. Areas of blowing sand and blowing dust. ; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs 91 to 96. Winds northwest 15 to 20 mph. Gusts to 35 mph in the morning. ; High Wind Warning for Riverside County in effect until 3:00 AM PDT on June 05, 2008;
22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140
22:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 65.6°F / 18.7°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely this evening...a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Clearing. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent. ; Thursday - A 40 percent chance of (1 more message)
22:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more
22:53 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: showers and thunderstorms in the morning...otherwise mostly sunny. Humid with highs around 90. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds around 10 mph. ; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 PM EDT on June 06, 2008; Areal Flood Watch for Hamilton County in effect until 12:00 AM EDT on June 05, 2008;
22:55 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: howdy
22:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello quail
22:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> packing up heree
23:00 <quail> you heading home?
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23:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> tomorrow, yes =)
23:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> It'll be good to get back
23:00 <PovIpod> hey
23:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey PovIpod =)
23:00 <quail> :-)
23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> I was just looking for my iPod here in the room
23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> couldn't find it =(
23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> called home
23:01 <CoderOnTheRoad> it was in the bag that I first had everytghing in, b ut was too small =)
23:02 <MTughan> Your bag was too small for an iPod?
23:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> it didn't make the trip, so it didn't get lost
23:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> yeah, that's it exactly, MTughan =)
23:02 <PovIpod> security is rarely convenient; I put a password on my iPod just so my sister doesnt use it but its annoying to type in every time I unlock the screen
23:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol that topic came up in a sesion today
23:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> I got to share with a big group (TM)
23:03 <PovIpod> tm & (C) CFL, etc
23:03 <efc> moo
23:03 <PovIpod> (your phrase)
23:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> A lady was complaining how inconvenient it was to configure her portal security
23:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey efc =)
23:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> at least my iPod was found safe at home
23:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> I was going to use it on the 3-1/2 hour fkight back
23:05 <CoderOnTheRoad> er flight
23:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> maybe I'll just use my noise canceling headphones by themselves
23:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> I plan to read a book on the Kindle
23:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> which reminds me...
23:07 <PovIpod> cool
23:07 * CoderOnTheRoad goes to plug in the Kindle to be sure it;s fully charged
23:07 <PovIpod> how good are those ?
23:08 <PovIpod> good resolution/contrast/battery life?
23:08 <MTughan> And I might have been premature with the fan upgrades... The stock fans apparently pull 26CFM at 23dBA.
23:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> they're OK - takes some getting used to
23:08 <MTughan> Which comparing with what I was upgrading too, isn't too much difference.
23:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> good rez, good battery life if you don't switch on the antenna
23:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> man, it's windy outside
23:09 <MTughan> Was wanting to put LED fans in the front, but the ones I was looking at are less powerful than these...
23:09 <PovIpod> well, wrt reading comfort, nothing would beat dead tree
23:09 <MTughan> CoderOnTheRoad: Send some down. :P
23:09 <CoderOnTheRoad> the umbrellas at the pool are blowing away
23:09 <PovIpod> &wx buenos aires
23:09 <Romulus> PovIpod: Temperature: 59.2Â°F / 15.1Â°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 12:09 AM ART; Overcast. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Overcast. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Clear. Low:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Clear. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Clear. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.;
23:10 <CoderOnTheRoad> what I miss is the feeling of progeress - with a physical book, you can easily see -even feel - how far you are
23:10 * PovIpod points CotR at the humidity
23:10 <CoderOnTheRoad> the Kindle holds a tons of books - but they are somewhat ethereal
23:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> I am currently reading "Red Mars" by Kim Stanley Robinson
23:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> "Green Mars" is downloaded and waiting
23:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> then it's onto "Blue Mars" and then "The Martians" - both yet to be bought/downloaded
23:12 <CoderOnTheRoad> NONE OF THIS REPLACES CODING
23:12 * CoderOnTheRoad feels better now
23:13 <Soul_keeper> aren't those all pdf ebooks on the kindle ?
23:14 <Soul_keeper> i'd rather read html format books on a UMPC
23:14 <PovIpod> sk: I don't think so
23:14 <PovIpod> most probably some DRMd format
23:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> nope Amazon format - although you can download PDFs to it, and get things like Word docs converted and sent to it
23:16 <MTughan> Wow, these fans can go pretty quiet when you rev them down...
23:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> oh, just looked at your Humididity PovIpod
23:16 <Soul_keeper> 5v mod makes things quiet ...
23:16 <MTughan> SK: What's that?
23:17 <Soul_keeper> run your 12v fans off the 5v rails
23:17 <CoderOnTheRoad> when they said "Clear" they meant the visibility in the water you're swimming in PovIpod
23:17 <MTughan> How do I tell which are the 5v rails?
23:17 <MTughan> The one's marked Fan Only?
23:18 <Soul_keeper> the red on the molex connector is 5v
23:18 <MTughan> And the yellow and black?
23:18 <Soul_keeper> yellow is 12v and black is ground
23:18 <PovIpod> MT just don't blow it up :)
23:18 <MTughan> I'll have to see which one's are being diverted...
23:19 <PovIpod> ok sleep for real now
23:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya PovIpod
23:19 <PovIpod> bai
23:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> MTughan: don't let the smoke out - it's the smoke that makes it work
23:19 <PovIpod> that's what *I* said
23:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> yup after a fashion
23:20 <PovIpod> magic smoke that powers all electrical devices
23:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> yep - the secret sauce
23:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> pixie dust
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23:23 <MTughan> Hmm, you're right. The top fan has a Molex adapter, but the hot goes to the yellow line.
23:24 * CoderOnTheRoad feels his eyes fading
23:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> time for ZZZ
23:24 <MTughan> Same with the front fans, although they have another controller on them.
23:24 <efc> night CFL
23:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> tomorrow night -in my own bed
23:25 <CoderOnTheRoad> gn Soul_keeper MTughan efc
23:25 <efc> People are reviewing the poor Atom with Vista, chip abuse
23:25 <Soul_keeper> late
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23:25 <Soul_keeper> efc, yeah it wasn't made for performance
23:25 <Soul_keeper> it's for sub 600 dollar MIDs and UMPCs
23:25 <efc> needs a lighter weight os
23:26 <Soul_keeper> linux would probably run perfect on it :)
23:26 <MTughan> Yep, the noisest fan in the machine is definitely the top one...
23:26 <efc> 2K would be good if it had the drivers
23:27 <MTughan> Then the VGA drivers...
23:28 <MTughan> fan*
23:28 * MTughan smacks himself
23:29 <efc> Its pretty sad when XP seems lean and mean..
23:30 <Soul_keeper> i think via's nano will be better than atom
23:31 <Soul_keeper> ?Our roadmap has us going there (the UMPC market) in the future?the first half of 2010. We will have products that play into that space when we believe that growth warrants it,? says Shutter.
23:32 <Soul_keeper> amd is apparently not even attempting to enter that market for another 2+ yrs
23:32 <efc> I dunno, intel has an advantage with the 45 nm stuff for now
23:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah
23:36 <Soul_keeper> TongFang (asia only company) will be the first with a "nano" (Isaiah) based product, they were the first to release a C7 product when they came out, but they don't sell in the US
23:38 <efc> At least if Intel does something it will usually be pretty solid driver wise