IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2008-06-05

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01:23 <efc> California Soul!

01:25 <Soul_keeper> indeed

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01:37 <Soul_keeper> stupid liberal news talking about  "immigrants out of work"

01:37 <efc> heh

01:38 <efc> they go straight to canada now?

01:38 <Soul_keeper> no they just collect unemployment or something

01:38 <Soul_keeper> and get their free healthcare

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05:54 <desti> http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3326

05:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5s4q9s> (at anandtech.com)

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06:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> morning

06:19 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 45140

06:19 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 65.5F / 18.6C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 90. South winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Friday - Mostly sunny. Humid with highs in the lower 90s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with (1 more message)

06:19 <ELGono> lo coder

06:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> hey ELGono =)

06:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

06:20 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: gusts up to 25 mph. ; Flood Warning for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 PM EDT on June 06, 2008;

06:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> hmm  fog and 100% humidity - go figure

06:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> &wx 92236

06:21 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: Temperature: 68F / 20C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 29.64in / 1004hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 90 to 95. Winds northwest 15 to 25 mph. ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 66 to 74. Light winds ...except northwest 15 mph near Banning pass. ; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs 97 to 102. Northwest winds 15 to 25 mph in (1 more message)

06:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> &more

06:21 <Romulus> CoderOnTheRoad: the afternoon. ;

06:22 <CoderOnTheRoad> the winds have died down

06:25 <hawmps> 'lo

06:37 <CoderOnTheRoad> hello Jay

06:50 <hawmps> how's kalifornicatia

06:51 <hawmps> ...could be 95 here saturday..

06:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> forecast is 95 here also - a bit cooler

06:52 <CoderOnTheRoad> the wind was howling last night - sand flying everywhere

06:53 <CoderOnTheRoad> flying home today - I'll see what the results of the last 2 days of storms

06:55 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm hoping for a smooth flight at 45000 feet

06:55 <CoderOnTheRoad> or whatever the west-to-east altitude is...

06:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> we get back in 75% of the time due to tail wind

06:57 * CoderOnTheRoad thunks his head on the desk

06:58 <CoderOnTheRoad> scratch that - I mean in 3-1/2 hours rather than 4

07:00 <CoderOnTheRoad> got 2 new machines waiting for me at home to setup

07:24 <desti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/21901146@N05/2552736607/

07:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6ha9yp> (at www.flickr.com)

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07:28 <PovIpod> yawn

07:29 <PovIpod> too early for me

07:31 <CoderOnTheRoad> morning PovIpod

07:32 <PovIpod> morning

07:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> 4:30am here in Cal-i-forn-i-a

07:33 <PovIpod> o_O

07:33 <CoderOnTheRoad> been up for 1-1/2 hours

07:33 <CoderOnTheRoad> studying MDX

07:34 <PovIpod> I'm more likely to be going to sleep at 3:30 than waking up

07:34 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol

07:35 <CoderOnTheRoad> that is due to our age difference

07:35 <PovIpod> indeed

07:35 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm packing (slowly) this morning

07:36 <CoderOnTheRoad> I leave the hotel in 5 hours

07:36 <CoderOnTheRoad> 1/2 hour to the airport then 3-1/2 hours back across the country

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07:37 <PovIpod> 1 hour of train hell from here to w$@

07:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> we have one of these   http://citationx.cessna.com/wallpaper/center_photo_04.jpg

07:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/57eje9> (at citationx.cessna.com)

07:39 <CoderOnTheRoad> you showed me a train pic before

07:39 <CoderOnTheRoad> looks like hell

07:42 <CoderOnTheRoad> I need some ice - brb

07:45 <PovIpod> &ping

07:45 <Romulus> pong

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07:48 <PovIpod> well

07:48 <PovIpod> off to the w-place

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07:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> b

07:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> aw

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09:19 <PovAdct_w> hrm

09:19 <PovAdct_w> is sshd configured by default to disallow connections outside the LAN? :/

09:36 <CoderOnTheRoad> probably

09:37 <CoderOnTheRoad> "security is.."

09:37 <PovAdct_w> ugh

09:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> .. and don't even *think* about "root"

09:39 <PovAdct_w> well it wouldn't surprise me that I can't get into root from ssh

09:39 <PovAdct_w> if I need to, I can just sudo once in from my normal user

09:39 <PovAdct_w> problem here is... it says "connection refused"

09:39 <Romulus> whoa. I have 14 win boxes from my family, the better.

09:39 <PovAdct_w> I'm sure I forwarded the ssh port on the firewall

09:40 <CoderOnTheRoad> might just be a firewall rulke

09:40 <PovAdct_w> ubuntu comes with a firewall by default? I'm sure I didn't install any (software) firewall

09:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> oh - you have a firewall running on each machine

09:41 <CoderOnTheRoad> how inconvenient =)

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09:42 <CoderOnTheRoad> and I can't answer ubuntu questions

09:43 <CoderOnTheRoad> I have one instance running that I rarely look at, because quail was so enamored of it

09:45 <PovAdct_w> well this explains why I didn't get any attacker login attempt like an hour after installing sshd

09:47 <CoderOnTheRoad> a-yuppa

09:47 <quail> PovAdct_w: the default ubuntu firewall is turned off by default iirc

09:48 <quail> PovAdct_w: run 'sudo ufw status'

09:49 <PovAdct_w> I can't run that... because I can't ssh to it

09:49 <quail> and it will tell you if the firewall is turned on or not

09:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> well - I'm going to shut down for awhile here to walk to the breakfast - I should be back later

09:55 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya

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11:49 <CoderOnTheRoad> re-hi

11:54 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: wb

11:54 <CoderOnTheRoad> thx

11:56 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'll ask a *way* off topic question since I can't find a freenode channel for it - anyone have some comparison thoughts of Pentaho versus JasperSoft?

11:56 <quail> nope

12:02 <CoderOnTheRoad> I guess my real question should be, anyone know of an IRC channel where dimensional data modeling, data mining, date warehouses and other similar and incredibly interesting stuff are discussed?

12:04 <quail> try iirc /list search <blah>

12:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> ah thanks

12:04 <CoderOnTheRoad> that should find any kind of blah I want =)

12:11 <CoderOnTheRoad> there;s no "search" subcommand, it seems

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12:13 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2755#17667

12:13 <KathrynM> it's an "emergency"

12:13 * KathrynM rolls eyes

12:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/53e5zn> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

12:14 <CoderOnTheRoad> looking

12:15 <CoderOnTheRoad> there's no such thing as an emergency posting to an off-topic forum

12:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> and hello KathrynM

12:16 <KathrynM> sounds like he's using the ubuntu vm

12:16 <KathrynM> and hello CoderOnTheRoad

12:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> It's Going Home Day

12:16 <KathrynM> yay!

12:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> indeed

12:16 <KathrynM> CoderBackInCinci

12:16 <CoderOnTheRoad> jet wheels up at 1pm Left Coast time

12:16 * KathrynM gets her end of contract bonus next week

12:17 <CoderOnTheRoad> yay!

12:17 <KathrynM> indeed

12:17 <CoderOnTheRoad> lol

12:17 <KathrynM> an extra month's pay will be very nice

12:17 <KathrynM> Going to treat myself to a new digital camera tomorrow.

12:17 <KathrynM> errrrrrrrr

12:17 <KathrynM> today

12:17 <KathrynM> as it's today now and was yesterday over an hour ago

12:18 <CoderOnTheRoad> Oooo

12:18 <KathrynM> ?

12:18 <CoderOnTheRoad> camera

12:18 <KathrynM> yeah

12:18 <quail> damn people that use ubuntu for a server should be shot on site

12:18 <KathrynM> shiny toy

12:18 <KathrynM> yeah, well, talk to the boinc folks

12:18 <KathrynM> they provide a vm server image

12:19 <quail> debian rocks as server better than ubuntu

12:19 * CoderOnTheRoad is thankful that he set up Edgy as a desktop

12:19 * KathrynM doesn't really know anything about server oses

12:20 <quail> rhel not to bad too

12:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> I use Linux only in a server role

12:20 * KathrynM likes fedora better than ubunny for a desktop

12:20 <KathrynM> I dunno.  *buntu seems so "fluffy"

12:20 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: ubuntu is great as a desktop OS for people new to linux

12:20 <CoderOnTheRoad> but that will change as my development plans progress

12:21 <KathrynM> Gnome just sucks

12:21 <wdsmia> asks KathrynM to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

12:21 <KathrynM> errr sux

12:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> understood - I will be supporting ubuntu

12:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> suchs

12:21 <KathrynM> suches

12:21 <quail> kde is just bloatware

12:21 <CoderOnTheRoad> such as it is

12:21 <Romulus> confusing to click "run always"

12:21 * KathrynM thinks rommie is always confused

12:22 * CoderOnTheRoad nods in agreement

12:22 <KathrynM> lol

12:22 <quail> rommie funny

12:22 <KathrynM> rommie babo

12:22 <KathrynM> babo ~= silly/crazy in korean

12:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> so has your class done a project on Pentaho versus JasperSoft, KathrynM

12:23 <KathrynM> why, we're working on that right now CoderOnTheRoad

12:23 * KathrynM thinks CoderOnTheRoad has lost his mind

12:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> oh good, I'm just in time

12:23 <CoderOnTheRoad> and the answer is.....

12:23 <KathrynM> wednesday we're making baking soda volcanoes

12:24 <KathrynM> so go with JasperSoft

12:24 * quail thinks CoderOnTheRoad has lost his way home till he get his answer :-P

12:24 <KathrynM> the other one seems too hard to say :)

12:24 <CoderOnTheRoad> that was ny first impression, but I was intrigued by the data mining part of Pentaho

12:25 * quail enjoying a couple glasses of red before trying to go back to bed

12:25 <CoderOnTheRoad> plus JasperSofy uses Pentaho technology

12:26 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: couldn't you have googled this?

12:26 <quail> &google Pentaho versus JasperSoft

12:26 <Romulus> quail: Search took 0.35 seconds: Need Information about OpenSource BI Pentaho vs Others - ITtoolbox ...: <http://businessintelligence.ittoolbox.com/groups/select/bi-select/need-information-about-opensource-bi-pentaho-vs-others-1571726>; Intelligent Enterprise: <http://www.intelligententerprise.com/blog/archives/2006/04/jaspersoft_roll.html>; AC/OS: Does first winner take all in open source?: (3 more messages)

12:26 <quail> &more

12:26 <Romulus> quail: <http://asay.blogspot.com/2007/03/does-first-winner-take-all-in-open.html>; JasperSoft : from Proprietary to Open Source: <http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3664536/JasperSoft:+from+Proprietary+to+Open+Source.htm>; JasperSoft : from Proprietary to Open Source: <http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/article.php/3664536>; Open Source Business Intelligence Forums • View topic - Pentaho vs (2 more messages)

12:26 <quail> &more

12:26 <Romulus> quail: ...: <http://www.osbiforums.com/enterprise/module=bb/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=121>; BI First Try: <http://theopensourcery.com/bifirstry.htm>; Wiki Wednesday: comparing Talend and Pentaho Kettle open source ...: <http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/bi/websphere/archives/wiki-wednesday-comparing-talend-and-pentaho-16294>; InternetNews Realtime IT News - Barry Klawans, CTO, JasperSoft: (1 more message)

12:26 <quail> &more

12:26 <Romulus> quail: <http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3663236>; Jaspersoft | Commercial Open Source Software: <http://robertogaloppini.net/index.php?s=jaspersoft>

12:31 <CoderOnTheRoad> yep - been on Google this morning

12:31 <CoderOnTheRoad> been looking for some "common folks" to tell me what they think

12:32 * KathrynM yawns

12:32 <KathrynM> I'm going back to bed

12:32 <KathrynM> later gators

12:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> okey-dokey

12:32 <CoderOnTheRoad> cya tc

12:33 <quail> night night KathrynM

12:38 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: how the home life treating you after days away?

12:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'll have to tell you after I get back there

12:39 <quail> oh I thought you were home already

12:39 <CoderOnTheRoad> supposed to land 7 hours from now

12:39 <CoderOnTheRoad> no, I'm CoderOnTheRoad

12:40 <quail> :-)

12:40 <CoderOnTheRoad> you'll have to ask CoderForLife

13:03 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: this weekend hopefully alot of the cabling and drive mounting will be finished on my new box

13:03 <CoderOnTheRoad> I have two new boxes waiting at home for me to set up

13:05 <quail> :-)

13:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> One will get F9, replace my current test server, and may become my production web server

13:06 <CoderOnTheRoad> the other one will get Windows Server 2003, and become a domain controller

13:07 <quail> CoderOnTheRoad: get into bind9

13:07 <CoderOnTheRoad> I'm thinking that my current development server will get OpenSuSE 10.2, then 10.3

13:07 <quail> and then you domain controller can run on a p133mmx

13:08 <CoderOnTheRoad> I need to test compatibility with Windows Server 2003, and eventually 2008

13:09 <quail> k

13:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> well - final packing to leave the room, check out, and see about a bite of lunch

13:38 <CoderOnTheRoad> later

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14:24 <e-30> hey

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15:01 <infinisoft> AnandTech posted some benchmarks of a Nehalem http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3326

15:01 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4gylag> (at www.anandtech.com)

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16:15 <PovAddict> quail: afaik, domain controller != DNS server

16:16 <KathrynM> PovAddict, isn't the discussion about the java thing on the mailing list trying to reinvent the wheel?  Hasn't Maleria already done that?

16:17 <PovAddict> no idea, haven't been on malaria for quite a while

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16:25 <xcamel> re-hi

16:28 <yoyo[RKN]> re

16:28 <yoyo[RKN]> in my boinc wrapper, is there a way to get a callback if the screensaver is called?

16:29 <PovAddict> hold on, phone

16:32 <PovAddict> the screensaver runs as a separate app

16:32 <PovAddict> there is no way for any boinc app to know when it starts

16:32 <PovAddict> unless you make your screensaver somehow notify it

16:33 <yoyo[RKN]> currently the wrapper starts "muon -background"

16:33 <yoyo[RKN]> but muon can also run with -screensaver

16:33 <PovAddict> then make the screensaver be a wrapper by itself

16:34 <yoyo[RKN]> but than I need a second job.xml

16:34 <PovAddict> I don't mean a science-app-like wrapper

16:34 <Romulus> AOL should be "ideas"

16:34 <PovAddict> (that wouldn't work for a screensaver anyway)

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16:34 <PovAddict> just a tiny stub that runs muon -screensaver

16:35 <PovAddict> you *can't* make the wrapper start the screensaver, the whole point of the splitting into a separate application is so the computation and the screensaver can run on separate user accounts

16:35 <yoyo[RKN]> but I must also send a WM_QUIT message to the running muon -background to finish and store the states

16:36 <yoyo[RKN]> ok, but seems feasible

16:36 <yoyo[RKN]> I will make some tests

16:36 <PovAddict> so when it runs with "muon -screensaver", that task does computation too?

16:36 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

16:36 <PovAddict> then you can't use that with BOINC

16:36 <xcamel> yea!

16:36 <xcamel> one bt mouse and kbd for the modbook

16:37 <PovAddict> the screensaver may run under a limited account without permission to talk to boinc, or there may be multiple screensaver graphics running at once

16:37 <PovAddict> you need the screensaver app to do *only* graphics and talk to the computation app

16:38 <yoyo[RKN]> ok than I can't use the exsting one

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16:52 <xcam_mac> testing the keyboard...

16:52 <xcam_mac> woah...cool

17:00 <PovAddict> ugh

17:00 <PovAddict> I think my ISP is trying to be smart blocking some ports

17:00 <xcam_mac> ugh?

17:00 <xcam_mac> that's not good

17:02 <PovAddict> I just enabled DMZ on my router to test, and a portscan app shows most ports as closed but SMTP as stealth

17:02 <PovAddict> and no matter what I try, the SSH port keeps showing closed from the outside

17:02 <PovAddict> I guess I'll have to use an alternate port...

17:03 <PovAddict> might be some local firewall too, but I can't find anything

17:03 <PovAddict> there are no rules in iptables

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17:08 <xcamel> seems I have to wait for the reg key for snak, or it just quits.

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17:16 <xcam_mac> there we go...

17:16 <PovAddict> damn

17:16 <PovAddict> it *was* a router misconfiguration

17:16 <xcam_mac> but off with this one..

17:16 <PovAddict> PEBCAK

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18:18 <Bravewolf> Pentium III 933 MHz -> 519.62 million ops/sec; Core2 Duo 2 GHz -> 651.12 million ops/sec

18:18 <Bravewolf> Is it possible a so little difference of performance?

18:18 <Bravewolf> (floating point speed)

18:18 <PovAddict> yes... at running BOINC benchmarks

18:19 <PovAddict> not necessarily so little difference at running real work :)

18:19 <Bravewolf> so... cpu benchmark is completely useless...

18:19 <PovAddict> there is no way it can be accurate

18:20 <PovAddict> you could have project A faster on your AMD than on your Intel, but get the opposite on project B

18:21 <PovAddict> the standard CPU benchmark can't test your CPU in a way that represents the kind of work *all* projects do

18:22 <DerMeister> Measured floating point speed534.12 million ops/sec <= that is my 500MHz P3... an *NO* cheating... your benchmark values seem to be much to low...

18:24 <Bravewolf> PovAddict: yes, of course... but I would have imagined a results with a little sense, in particular the difference between P3 and Core2.

18:24 <PovAddict> go compare workunit lengths

18:24 <PovAddict> maybe there *is* that little of a difference

18:24 <Bravewolf> DerMeister: Windows or Linux?

18:25 <PovAddict> although note the benchmarks on the core2 are in million ops/sec *per core*

18:25 <DerMeister> Bravewolf: linux

18:25 <Bravewolf> DerMeister: me too, Debian etch

18:26 <PovAddict> in addition, the CPU benchmark could get twice faster (or slower) depending on how the client is compiled

18:26 <DerMeister> PovAddict: but these values are way too low... even my 6 year old P4 has more than 1200 million ops/sec...

18:26 <PovAddict> so if the client is compiled with a crapload of compiler optimizations and the science app isn't, the results are useless indeed :)

18:26 <PovAddict> same for opposite

18:27 <PovAddict> (which is actually more common)

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18:32 <Bravewolf> PovAddict: I could try to compile it using apt-build, just for test. Obviously it can't make any difference in the computing, because the running scientific application will remain the same.

18:32 <PovAddict> exactly

18:32 <PovAddict> and using high optimizations (which make your benchmarks a lot higher) could actually give you more credits in some projects

18:33 <PovAddict> and accusations of cheating

18:34 <Bravewolf> but it's not a cheat!

18:35 <PovAddict> if you optimize your core client, giving larger benchmarks but not doing real computation any faster, and the project uses benchmarks for credits, and so you get more credits... that sounds like cheating... you get more credits for the same work

18:36 <Bravewolf> Honestly, I'm very little interested in credits...

18:37 <PovAddict> if you care about credits or not is irrelevant to the kind of forum-idiots who would whine "cheater!" if they see inflated benchmarks

18:38 <MTughan> &seen Tank_Master

18:38 <Romulus> MTughan: Tank_Master was last seen in #boinc 1 day, 16 hours, 9 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <Tank_Master> thatll mean what, 15k+ RAC on 64bit ABC?

18:39 <MTughan> Well, he can see this later... I think I found the problem fan in the other computer. Problem is, it's not as easy to replace....

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18:39 <MTughan> I think it's the stock Intel CPU cooler.

18:39 <Bravewolf> PovAddict: However it seems stupid to give credits based on benchmark and not based only on the number of mathematical operations carried out.

18:39 <PovAddict> Bravewolf: and that's why many projects, like SETI, don't use benchmarks for credits

18:40 <PovAddict> for other applications, it may be impossible to count the operations done

18:40 <PovAddict> or maybe it's possible, but it makes the computation twice slower, because of the overhead in counting the operations

18:42 <Bravewolf> PovAddict: understood

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18:45 <Bravewolf> PovAddict: I'm going to reboot on hardy 64bit live to test the difference in cpu benchmark. bye bye

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19:11 <efc> wow, yet another chip

19:32 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomshardware.com/picturestory/459-computex-booth-babes.html

19:32 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/59z4wx> (at www.tomshardware.com)

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19:43 <xcamel> re-hi

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20:03 <efc> Moo X

20:04 * efc loads Soul's link but doesn't tell anybody

20:04 <BadBarbarian> MOO

20:05 <xcamel> baaaah

20:05 <wdsmia> humbug

20:06 * efc has suggestions for computex if they're listening

20:08 <quail> PovAddict: 05:45:58 #boinc: < PovAddict> quail: afaik, domain controller != DNS server <<< what do you think bind9 does :-P

20:09 <PovAddict> bind is a DNS server afaik

20:10 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_controller

20:10 <Romulus> Title: Domain controller - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

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20:37 <CoderForLife> evening

20:37 <CoderForLife> home now from CA

20:37 <wdsmia> welcome home Don

20:37 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

20:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 84.0F / 28.9C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Friday - Mostly sunny. Hot and humid with near record highs in the lower 90s. South winds 10 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. ; Friday Night - Mostly clear in the (1 more message)

20:37 <CoderForLife> thanks Doug - good to be home

20:38 <KathrynM> yay!  CoderForLife is no longer CoderOnTheRoad

20:38 <CoderForLife> nope - home again home again jiggity jig

20:38 <wdsmia> hope you dont have as many trees downs as I do

20:39 <CoderForLife> I see none down, and the wife reports hearing or seeing none down

20:39 <CoderForLife> I haven't walked the property yet

20:39 <CoderForLife> sorry to hear you have damage

20:39 <wdsmia> lost about a 50' limb out of the maple in the backyard last night

20:40 <CoderForLife> yeow

20:40 <CoderForLife> did it hit anything?

20:40 <wdsmia> tree sevice wants $1400 to remove it

20:40 <CoderForLife> un-good

20:41 <CoderForLife> do you own a chain saw?

20:41 * wdsmia gets ready to put on the tree spikes and do some real work for a few days

20:41 <CoderForLife> be careful

20:42 <CoderForLife> weigh the cost versus the potential cost

20:42 <MTughan> lol

20:42 <wdsmia> been doing that all day lol

20:43 <CoderForLife> if you get hurt, it'll cost more than $1400 I would bet

20:43 <CoderForLife> homeowner's insurance cover it?

20:44 <wdsmia> part of it but you know them low life insurance people

20:46 <CoderForLife> how'd we hop from P&C to life? =)

20:46 <wdsmia> lol

20:47 <wdsmia> Im sure they would cover the 15' of down chain link fence

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20:49 <CoderForLife> anything else under the limb?  cars?  shed?

20:49 <CoderForLife> car port?

20:49 <wdsmia> and only raise there rates $50 a year for the next 10 years to cover a $40 repair

20:50 <wdsmia> nope lucked out nothing but fence and grass

20:50 <CoderForLife> well - I need to unpack some things and throw myself into the bed

20:50 <wdsmia> hf cya

20:50 <CoderForLife> be it ever so humble, there's no place like home

20:51 <KathrynM> sleep well fair Coder

20:51 <CoderForLife> cya wdsmia MTughan KathrynM

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21:12 <petenix> Hello.

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21:48 <chanueting> I would like to know if there is setting to filter some long time task since my slow computer cannot handle two task at the same time

21:50 <PovAddict> then set it to use a single processor

21:51 <PovAddict> so it only runs one at a time

21:52 <xcamel> back for a few..

21:52 <PovAddict> and gone myself

21:58 <chanueting> I am using a single core processor

21:59 <xcamel> that's all it will ever do then...

21:59 <chanueting> but there is sometime two or more tasks that I can hardly finish them all

22:00 <xcamel> one job from any number of projects at a time

22:00 <xcamel> you have to stick to short duration wu projects

22:01 <chanueting> I see, for example?

22:01 <xcamel> laterz..

22:03 <chanueting> I am new to BOINC

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23:42 <efc> remoo

23:48 * efc looks for some newer linux distros

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