IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-06-09

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00:25 <freakazoid0223> &weather 19020

00:25 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: Temperature: 84.3F / 29.1C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s. West winds around 5 mph. Early. ; Monday - Sunny. Highs in the upper 90s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Heat index values up to 105. ; Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s. (1 more message)

00:26 <freakazoid0223> &more

00:26 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Excessive Heat Warning for Bucks County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on June 10, 2008;

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00:56 <quail> afternoon all

00:56 <efc> moo

00:57 <quail> mo0 efc

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04:13 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 73.0F / 22.8C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny this morning...then becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms mainly after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 10 (1 more message)

04:15 <CoderForLife> &more

04:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning...then partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent. ;

04:18 <CoderForLife> 100% chance of breakfast - brb

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04:25 <speart> hi, I'm having a few problems with boinc of F9

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04:33 <id__> can someone help me w/ proxy settings

04:33 <id__> please

04:35 <id__> I just need Proxy section from this file ~ / .BOINC Manager

04:37 <FreeLarry58> never played with proxy myself

04:37 <FreeLarry58> and haven't installed f9 yet

04:39 <id__> I'm with FC8 x86_64

04:39 <id__> GUI crashes on Advanced Tab

04:39 <FreeLarry58> got that on 2 machines

04:39 <id__> so I need file section, please anyone...

04:40 <FreeLarry58> which gui? boinc manager?

04:40 <Romulus> gas milage has dropped considerably

04:40 <id__> When I use console: export HTTP_PROXY="http://192.168.0.1:3128" ; cmd AND everything works fine

04:40 <id__> for console apps

04:40 <id__> not for boinc_cmd thou

04:41 <id__> when I set manually in client_state.xml

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04:41 <id__> it gets overwritten on start with some garbage

04:41 <id__> server_name=http port=192 :(

04:41 <id__> yep Boinc Manager

04:42 <id__> so only 2 options left are : Boinc Manager GUI overwrites or ..its hardcoded somewhere :(

04:42 <FreeLarry58> humm i just run boinc as service and then log into it from other machine using putty to start

04:43 <FreeLarry58> boinc manager on other machine then can connect and i manage projects from this machine

04:44 <id__> No, no, no not for management - for get/send results

04:44 <FreeLarry58> start command i use is ./boinc --allow_remote_gui_rpc --daemon

04:45 <id__> No i don't wont to do that - it is working on localhost

04:45 <id__> until I click Update project and..

04:45 <id__> Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:53:30 AM EEST|Spinhenge@home|Reporting 1 tasks

04:45 <id__> Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:53:30 AM EEST||[http_debug] HTTP_OP::init_post(): http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/spin_cgi/cgi

04:45 <id__> Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:53:31 AM EEST||[http_debug] [ID#0] info: gethostbyname_r(2) failed for http

04:45 <id__> Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:53:31 AM EEST||[http_debug] [ID#0] info: Couldn't resolve proxy 'http'

04:45 <id__> Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:53:31 AM EEST||[http_debug] [ID#0] info: Closing connection #0

04:45 <id__> Mon 09 Jun 2008 10:53:31 AM EEST||[http_debug] HTTP error: couldn't resolve proxy name

04:47 <FreeLarry58> mabye spinhenge servers down?

04:47 <id__> seems stupid http_debug shows "almost" everything except from where did it get those *incorrect* settings for proxy

04:47 <id__> No servers are not down

04:47 <id__> i get this for all (5 projects) servers

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04:49 <FreeLarry58> from one of the links above

04:49 <FreeLarry58> - <scheduler_reply>

04:49 <FreeLarry58>   <scheduler_version>601</scheduler_version>

04:49 <FreeLarry58>   <master_url>http://spin.fh-bielefeld.de/</master_url>

04:49 <FreeLarry58>   <request_delay>1212.000000</request_delay>

04:49 <FreeLarry58>   <message priority="low">Incomplete request received.</message>

04:49 <FreeLarry58>   <project_name>Spinhenge@home</project_name>

04:49 <FreeLarry58>   </scheduler_reply>

04:50 <FreeLarry58> the next line down was talking about get host by name and not able to resolve http as proxy? confusing to me

04:51 <id__> Larry if by chance you're runing GUI on some of your machines could you do me a favour

04:51 <FreeLarry58> not attached to spinheg currently

04:51 <FreeLarry58> will try just brought up the simple manager on one of the f8 machines

04:52 <id__> try Advanced

04:52 <FreeLarry58> there - what do you need

04:52 <id__> set some proxy "192.168.0.1:3128" ot anything

04:52 <id__> close GUI

04:52 <id__> and send/show me proxy section of this file

04:52 <id__> ~ / .BOINC Manager

04:53 <id__> ~ should be dir of user running GUI i.e. Boinc Manager

04:53 <FreeLarry58> err before i try something not familiar with -- which version of boinc you using?

04:53 <id__> I think it is not fedora8 specific...

04:54 <CoderForLife> back

04:54 <FreeLarry58> cant be as the install i have is ubantu release 6.2.4 boinc

04:54 <FreeLarry58> ahh someone who knows something -- wb CoderForLife

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04:55 <id__> can't tell Crashes on About yet from logs: Starting BOINC client version 5.8.16 for i686-pc-linux-gnu

04:55 <FreeLarry58> f8 and boinc proxy

04:56 <FreeLarry58> ohhh very old version -- suggest you update to 5.10.45 at least

04:56 <id__> Larry NO it's not that

04:57 <id__> it was working till yesterday

04:57 <id__> and only thing we changed is.. our proxy

04:57 <FreeLarry58> lol well i still nube too -- some projects are requiring newer versions tho

04:58 <id__> and s.th. seems to override both: console settings/vars and client_state.xml

04:58 <FreeLarry58> ahh i didn't have the file you request so maybe logged into one of the default ones that boonc uses

04:58 <id__> Did you ran GUI

04:59 <id__> as some user?

04:59 <id__> then you could look in /home/user

04:59 <FreeLarry58> yeah -- yup which proxy you want set -http or socks

04:59 <id__> if you run as root then in /root

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04:59 <id__> http

05:00 <id__> with some port <> 80 please

05:00 <id__> e.g.: 192.168.0.1  port 3128

05:00 <FreeLarry58> under http has box to check for connect via http server - box for the server addy and port for server also optional username and password if needed by server

05:00 <id__> it "probably" won't work for you - just will be saved in settings

05:01 <id__> no I do not need user pass - I need just those two to be set: Server:192.168.0.1 port:3128

05:01 <id__> nothing else

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05:02 <FreeLarry58> tried but no new files show in foldr

05:02 <id__> didi you see any file starting with dot "." ?

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05:03 <id__> perhaps you should try some option allowing you to see hidden files?

05:03 <id__> what do you use - looking for files?

05:04 <id__> mc - console; konqueror or s.th. else?

05:04 <FreeLarry58> using browser window on f9 gnome

05:04 <FreeLarry58> f8

05:05 <FreeLarry58> still no changes even with show hidden

05:07 <id__> not familiar w/ gnome

05:07 <id__> did you see any .file

05:08 <id__> anything like .BOINC*** ot .boinc

05:12 <FreeLarry58> just the execute files

05:13 <FreeLarry58> could be because i'm running as daemon

05:16 <FreeLarry58> well time for me to get to bed friday coming early tomorrow

05:16 <FreeLarry58> sry couldn't help that much id__

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05:19 <CoderForLife> oh thank goodness

05:20 <id__> k, bye

05:20 <KathrynM> huh?

05:20 <KathrynM> id__, did you send me an email through my helpers page?

05:21 <id__> yep

05:21 <Romulus> sound like helicopters tho

05:21 <id__> I think so...

05:21 <KathrynM> let me look at the email and see what you need.

05:21 <id__> Can you help me

05:21 <KathrynM> there's one ahead of you in line.

05:21 <KathrynM> I'm a Linux dummy, but I can try.

05:23 <KathrynM> I'll pastebin the file if it ever loads the site.

05:23 <KathrynM> http://pastebin.ca/1042729

05:23 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1042729 (at pastebin.ca)

05:24 <KathrynM> that's with 5.10.45

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05:27 <CoderForLife> http://www.happynews.com/news/662008/review-finally-useful-digital-pen.htm

05:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5grpvs> (at www.happynews.com)

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05:30 <id__> KathrynM: I need you to set some proxy first

05:31 <id__> brb

05:31 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

05:32 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:33 <KathrynM> ok id__ just walk me through it step by step

05:42 <KathrynM> I don't think the chat thing is working id__

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05:54 <id__> Thanks Katryn. Have a nice day

05:56 <KathrynM> you too id__

05:57 <id__> anyone else willing to help? - from where boinc reads proxy settings if not from client_state.xml

05:57 <id__> because s.th. overwrites it avery time I start it

06:01 <KathrynM> 6.2.4?

06:02 <KathrynM> post to the alpha list.  it might be a bug

06:05 <id__> don't think so

06:10 <CoderForLife> well - back to the normal w@#% day

06:11 <CoderForLife> cya laterz

06:14 <KathrynM> laterz CoderForLife

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07:22 <hawmps> &wx 12020

07:22 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 77.2F / 25.1C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.65in / 1003.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Patchy fog this morning...then hazy this afternoon. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and heavy rainfall this afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds 10 (2 more messages)

07:22 <hawmps> &more

07:22 <Romulus> hawmps: to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds and heavy rainfall in the evening. Humid with lows around 70. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph...decreasing to around 5 mph after (1 more message)

07:22 <hawmps> &more

07:22 <Romulus> hawmps: midnight. Chance of rain 30 percent. ; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Hot. Humid with highs in the lower 90s. South winds around 5 mph...increasing to around 10 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent. ;

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11:00 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

11:00 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 87.4F / 30.8C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 30.11in / 1019.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 6.7mph / 10.8km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms mainly after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 (1 more message)

11:01 <PovAdct_w> o/

11:01 <CoderForLife> hello PovAdct_w from CFL@w@#%

11:01 <hawmps> 85.5 here

11:02 <CoderForLife> &more

11:02 <Romulus> CoderForLife: percent. ; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely in the morning...then partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent. ;

11:02 <hawmps> but humid like miami

11:02 <CoderForLife> hello hawmps

11:02 <CoderForLife> It was miserable yesterday

11:02 <hawmps> borderline here yesterday...

11:02 <CoderForLife> I was continually blinded by sweat

11:03 <hawmps> at least a breeze....

11:03 <CoderForLife> we have the 17-year cicada out in force - the sound is deafening

11:03 <CoderForLife> so deaf and blind

11:04 <CoderForLife> and then there's all the cicada flying and landing on you

11:05 <CoderForLife> aside from that, quite pleasant

11:05 <hawmps> just waiting for the sky to explode later today..

11:09 <PovAdct_w> &wx buenos aires

11:09 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 11:00 AM ART; Chance of Rain. High:51 F. / 11 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Clear. Low:42 F. / 6 C.; Clear. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.;

11:10 <PovAdct_w> who wants some of my weather?

11:10 <CoderForLife> I'm hopeful that the "after midnight" forecast will help mitigate the storms

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11:10 <CoderForLife> oops

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11:10 <PovAdct_w> wrong button pressed

11:10 <PovAdct_w> sort of

11:10 <CoderForLife> did you withdraw your offer, PovAdct_w?

11:11 <PovAdct_w> nope

11:11 <CoderForLife> lol

11:11 <PovAdct_w> particularly the "light rain" - you can take it

11:11 <CoderForLife> going.. going.. disconnected

11:11 <CoderForLife> I need no rain

11:12 <CoderForLife> well - back to w@#%ing for The Man

11:13 * CoderForLife turns his attention to business analysis of how enterprise content management tools can support Sarbanes-Oxley compliance

11:13 * CoderForLife yawns

11:13 <Romulus> does crunch3r monitor this channle? How did I say yes... *opens message*

11:13 <CoderForLife> later

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12:44 <freakazoid0223> &weather 19020

12:44 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: Temperature: 95.7F / 35.4C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.2mph / 0.3km/h ; This Afternoon - Sunny...hot and humid. Highs in the upper 90s. West winds around 10 mph. Heat index values up to 105. ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Tuesday - Sunny in the (1 more message)

12:44 <freakazoid0223> &more

12:44 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: morning...then partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall and damaging winds. Hot and humid with highs in the upper 90s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. Heat index values up to 105. ; Excessive Heat Warning for Bucks County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on June 10, 2008;

13:21 <hawmps> miserable hot

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14:31 <FreeLarry58> &wx 98366

14:31 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Temperature: 52.5F / 11.4C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1002.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Rain and becoming breezy. Highs in the mid 50s. South wind 5 to 15 mph...rising around mid afternoon to southwest 15 to 25 mph with gusts to 35 mph. ; Tonight - Breezy...showers. Lows in the 40s. Southwest wind 15 to 25 mph. ; (1 more message)

14:31 <FreeLarry58> &more

14:31 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Tuesday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers. Highs in the 50s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph. ;

14:32 <FreeLarry58> and for mountains tonight -- SNOW

14:37 <freakazoid0223> heh

14:37 <hawmps> sounds about right...

14:37 <freakazoid0223> &weather 19020

14:37 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: Temperature: 96.9F / 36.1C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 29.81in / 1009.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Sunny...hot and humid. Highs in the upper 90s. West winds around 10 mph. Heat index values up to 105. ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. ; Tuesday - Sunny in the (1 more message)

14:38 <FreeLarry58> upto a foot over 3500 ft

14:38 <hawmps> ouch..

14:38 <freakazoid0223> &more

14:38 <Romulus> freakazoid0223: morning...then partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall and damaging winds. Hot and humid with highs in the upper 90s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. Heat index values up to 105. ; Excessive Heat Warning for Bucks County in effect until 8:00 PM EDT on June 10, 2008;

14:38 <freakazoid0223> well its a dry heat right?

14:38 <hawmps> 91.6 here, 49% humidity

14:39 <hawmps> not hardly

14:39 <FreeLarry58> hot sticky

14:39 <hawmps> oppressive....

14:40 <FreeLarry58> why don't you come on over and go sking tonight jay ;) besides the state troopers(tax collectors) need new target

14:40 <hawmps> heh

14:40 <freakazoid0223> actually once the RH drops below 50% it starts to have a negative impact on the heat index

14:41 <hawmps> yup

14:41 <hawmps> heat index is 96.21 right now

14:42 <hawmps> and it feel it...

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14:56 <hawmps> nothing in the radar -- yet

14:58 <freakazoid0223> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/

14:58 <Romulus> Title: Storm Prediction Center (at www.spc.noaa.gov)

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15:07 <hawmps> tomorrow into wednesday...

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16:23 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

16:23 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 81.3F / 27.4C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. High in the mid 70s. West wind around 10 mph. ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low around 60. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph. ; Tuesday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 80s. Southwest wind 5 to 15 mph shifting to (1 more message)

16:23 <wdsmia_w> &more

16:23 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: the south 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the afternoon. ; Areal Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 3:12 PM CDT on June 10, 2008;

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16:23 <xcamel> hit 90 for a minute here..

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16:48 <speart> hi there

16:48 <speart> does pheone 3850 ready for crunching?

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16:51 <xcamel> finally turned on the AC

16:52 <xcamel> phenom ?

16:52 <MTughan> Why does this f***ing connection keep timing out?!?!?!?!

16:52 <xcamel> bad karma..

16:57 <MTughan> Thinking it could be our Korean student almost always on YouTube watching videos... Doesn't bode well for BOINC.

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17:13 <CoderForLife> hello

17:13 <CoderForLife> 91F

17:13 <MTughan> &wx Brampton, ON

17:13 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 79°F / 26°C | Humidity: N/A% | Pressure: -9999.00in / -9999hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 5:10 PM EDT; Tonight - A few showers with thunderstorms ending early this evening then cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Risk of severe thunderstorms. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) (2 more messages)

17:13 * CoderForLife whirls his sling psychrometer

17:14 <Romulus> is getting worse every day for one subject enough?

17:14 <MTughan> WTF?

17:14 * CoderForLife looks at the reading

17:14 <CoderForLife> yep - it's miserable outside

17:14 <MTughan> N/A humidity and -9999 pressure?

17:14 <PovAddict> MTughan: didn't you explode yet?

17:14 <MTughan> With what?

17:14 <CoderForLife> you folks in Ontario live in a vacuum

17:15 <PovAddict> the negative pressure

17:15 <MTughan> 83% humidity 15 minutes ago...

17:15 <MTughan> 100.90kPa and rising.

17:16 <MTughan> So still warm, but the rain that swept through earlier did help it seems.

17:16 <PovAddict> &wx EZE

17:16 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM ART; Chance of Rain. High:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Clear. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:37 F. / 3 C.;

17:16 <MTughan> EZE? Nice...

17:16 <PovAddict> airport code

17:16 <MTughan> Nice temperature too.

17:16 <MTughan> Ah...

17:16 <MTughan> &wx YYZ

17:16 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 77.4°F / 25.2°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa | Conditions: Heavy Rain | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 5:16 PM EDT; Tonight - A few showers with thunderstorms ending early this evening then cloudy periods. 30 percent chance of showers overnight. Risk of severe thunderstorms. Wind southwest 30 km/h (19 mph) gusting to 50 km/h (31 mph) (2 more messages)

17:17 <PovAddict> yep, freezin' my hands

17:17 <MTughan> Aha, there's everything.

17:17 * CoderForLife puts his sling psychrometer away

17:17 <PovAddict> &airport YYZ

17:17 <Romulus> PovAddict: Toronto - Lester B. Pearson International, Canada

17:17 <MTughan> Biggest airport in Canada.

17:17 <MTughan> And you know, we have the busiest highway just south of that too... :D

17:18 <MTughan> Sorry, busiest highway in North America.

17:18 <PovAddict> our President is speaking

17:18 <CoderForLife> does that mean he's lying?

17:18 <PovAddict> it really sounds as if somebody was pulling an "applause" sign for all the people there

17:18 <PovAddict> (people who are probably *paid* to be there and applause at appropriate times)

17:20 <MTughan> Ugh... Forecasted 94% humidity tonight, although with 20C.

17:20 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: our current president is the wife of our previous president - go find any other country where *that* can happen

17:20 * PovAddict just started intentionally typing it with lowercase 'p'; just like with code that doesn't deserve being called Code

17:21 <CoderForLife> Don't cry for me, Argentina

17:21 <MTughan> Ooh, cool... "Highway 401 is the widest highway in the world in a total number of thru lanes with 18 in Mississauga."

17:21 <CoderForLife> I've been on that road, MTughan

17:21 <MTughan> I'm on it every week.

17:21 <CoderForLife> I saw an 18 lane backup

17:21 <MTughan> When were you up here?

17:22 <MTughan> lol... That's the 401 all right.

17:22 * PovAddict touches MTughan's neck with his frozen hands

17:22 <MTughan> Wish I could feel it... We're still sweating profusely.

17:22 <PovAddict> lol

17:22 <PovAddict> my sister recently did that after having touched ice - I ran after her all around the house

17:22 * CoderForLife goes to change out of w@#% clothes into his Coder clothes

17:23 <MTughan> lol...

17:23 <CoderForLife> some think that the wizard's outfit is a bit over the top, but what do they know

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17:24 <PovAddict> it's kind of general knowledge that there was fraud in the last presidential election

17:24 <PovAddict> not like anything was done about it

17:25 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:25 <PovAddict> seemed to be multi-technique fraud too

17:26 <PovAddict> if any plan failed, they'd still win

17:27 <CoderForLife> waa - election fraud in a Latin American country?

17:27 <CoderForLife> you mean, like in Florida?

17:27 <PovAddict> think adding fake votes (apparently) *and* being involved while votes were counted (apparently) *and* paying poor people to vote for them (confirmed to have happened)

17:28 <PovAddict> heh

17:28 <CoderForLife> we have the best politicians money can buy

17:29 <CoderForLife> din-din time, and check on some things outside in the H&H

17:29 <CoderForLife> bbl

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17:55 <CoderForLife> b

17:55 * CoderForLife starts to plan the migration of stuff from the current F8 server to the new F9 server

17:56 <CoderForLife> I need one of these  http://www.happynews.com/news/692008/roadrunner-fastest-computer.htm

17:56 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/68ufoy> (at www.happynews.com)

17:57 <CoderForLife> it's ''a very souped-up Sony PlayStation 3.''

17:58 <CoderForLife> 6,948 dual-core computer chips and 12,960 cell engines, and it has 80 terabytes of memory

17:58 <CoderForLife> the computer in a two-hour test on May 25 achieved a ''petaflop'' speed of sustained performance, something no other computer had ever done

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18:02 <PovAddict> a petaflop

18:02 <PovAddict> ?

18:02 <PovAddict> I think that's all BOINC together

18:03 <CoderForLife> what other game would you play on a giant PlayStation?

18:03 <CoderForLife> PetaFlipFlop

18:06 <xcamel> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/09/technology/09petaflops.html?hp

18:06 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5zujsg> (at www.nytimes.com)

18:08 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:09:48)

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18:09 <CoderForLife> more people join the party!

18:10 <KathrynM> woo hoo

18:10 <KathrynM> day one of open house today

18:11 <KathrynM> woo freaking hoo

18:11 <BB_Laptop> howdy

18:11 <KathrynM> howdy BB_Laptop

18:11 <KathrynM> I thought you looked a little flat today

18:11 <CoderForLife> why multiple days?

18:12 <KathrynM> the kids have two role play things they have to do.  one inside and one outside

18:12 <BB_Laptop> hi ya Kat hows Asis

18:12 <KathrynM> I get to sit in the "ticket booth" outside

18:12 <BB_Laptop> hi CFL

18:12 <KathrynM> ya know, the amusement park, better known as the playground

18:12 <CoderForLife> ah currency exchange!

18:12 <KathrynM> Asia's ok.

18:12 <CoderForLife> hello BB_Laptop

18:13 <KathrynM> once I sell the tickets, I'm going to take pictures.

18:13 <KathrynM> I love new toys

18:13 <KathrynM> http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/f/finepix_f50fd/index.html

18:13 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2cbj55> (at www.fujifilm.com)

18:13 <PovAddict> bah

18:13 <KathrynM> hab

18:14 <KathrynM> (sorry, not enough sleep)

18:14 <BB_Laptop> the question is whos going to have the first quad laptop amd or intel

18:14 * PovAddict eats a cookie

18:14 <Romulus> like... modifying somebody else's scene, and I have to talk to my way. I can get good iso for f9

18:14 * KathrynM should make some breakfast

18:14 <KathrynM> bbiab

18:14 <BB_Laptop> my moneys on AMD

18:14 <BB_Laptop> ok

18:15 * CoderForLife starts comparing F8 settings to F9

18:15 <PovAddict> I was working on a JS script with a friend... "blind coding", I had tested the first version but I was modifying it and sending it to him to test it without trying it myself

18:16 <CoderForLife> ah - normal company software development practice

18:16 <PovAddict> now he went afk so I was about to ask MTughan to test my other C++ project

18:16 <CoderForLife> "he's in QA - it's his job to test'

18:16 <PovAddict> and I felt like a brick saying "you're such a geek" had hit my head

18:17 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: more like "it's a script for an addon for MSN Messenger for Windows, and I'm on Linux, so I can't test it myself"

18:17 <CoderForLife> it's hard to find good free help nowadays

18:18 <PovAddict> ...

18:18 <PovAddict> what are you about to ask me

18:18 <PovAddict> <_<

18:18 <CoderForLife> except you, of course =)

18:18 <KathrynM> lol

18:18 * PovAddict grabs a post-it note and writes a price on it, then sticks it to his forehead

18:18 <CoderForLife> lol

18:18 <KathrynM> too low

18:18 <KathrynM> add a few zeros to that PovAddict

18:18 <CoderForLife> what's the negative sign for?

18:18 <PovAddict> aw thanks

18:19 <PovAddict> lol

18:19 <PovAddict> so yeah

18:19 <KathrynM> lol:  "Fix 2 year old bug....Why did it take so long to find?"

18:19 <PovAddict> I'm such a geek

18:19 <PovAddict> so what

18:20 <PovAddict> MTughan: poke

18:20 <CoderForLife> I'm sure it's multiplied after 2 years

18:20 <PovAddict> KathrynM: saw that - couldn't believe it... but it does explain the usually-useless error reports from  workunits

18:20 <PovAddict> not like I could use it on my project anyway

18:20 * CoderForLife grabs his server configuration notes binder

18:20 <PovAddict> only M$ compiler makes those "debugging symbol stores"

18:20 <KathrynM> I didn't understand what it was, but thought the checkin note was funny

18:21 <CoderForLife> I guess I'll setup e-mail and crontab for me first

18:21 <KathrynM> woo hoo.... crontabs

18:21 <PovAddict> KathrynM: a project can give extra debugging information with apps, which will only get downloaded if the app crashes; bug was the URL for those debugging files wasn't getting read by the just-crashed app

18:21 <KathrynM> lots of *s

18:21 <Romulus> if it gives an error

18:21 <CoderForLife> they are da bomb

18:21 <KathrynM> that's pretty much it rommie

18:22 <KathrynM> even more fun once I understood them

18:22 <PovAddict> so if a project went through the trouble to set up the symbol store, it would never be used anyway

18:22 <KathrynM> thanks PovAddict

18:22 <KathrynM> now I get it

18:22 * PovAddict goes put away the cookies before he eats the whole package

18:22 <PovAddict> ...

18:22 * PovAddict eats one more first

18:23 <KathrynM> lol

18:23 <PovAddict> I really don't understand how I'm underweight

18:23 * KathrynM gets out the OJ. She needs her vitamin C

18:24 * KathrynM gets out her little packet of mystery pills. She needs her antibiotics (and whatever else the doctors here prescribe).

18:25 <PovAddict> hmm

18:26 <PovAddict> I think if I had food close to the computer, I wouldn't be underweight :P

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18:27 <PovAddict> KathrynM-Linux: I found something that might interest you

18:27 <PovAddict> 'fish' shell

18:30 <KathrynM> fish shell?

18:30 <PovAddict> PM

18:30 <KathrynM> got it

18:31 <CoderForLife> new F9 box now does e-mail

18:31 <KathrynM> yippee

18:34 <KathrynM> speaking of mail...

18:34 * KathrynM goes to check system mail

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18:39 * KathrynM guesses BB pushed the red button

18:39 <PovAddict> ah you don't know the red button?

18:39 <PovAddict> http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=9644

18:39 <KathrynM> I usually go for the blue button

18:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/bn2zz> (at www.i-am-bored.com)

18:40 <CoderForLife> red buttons - I hate'rm

18:40 <CoderForLife> 'em

18:40 <xcamel> better than the green pill

18:41 <KathrynM> lol.  that's awesome

18:43 * CoderForLife goes where few dare - editing sendmail.cf by hand using vi

18:44 <PovAddict> vi sucks

18:44 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

18:44 <KathrynM> use emacs :p

18:44 <PovAddict> after so much time using all the the vim extra features, it's hard to use a plain old vi

18:46 <xcamel> vi == virtual idiot.

18:46 * CoderForLife looks back at chat

18:46 <CoderForLife> careful..

18:47 <xcamel> people who use VI should still be driving a pacer

18:47 <CoderForLife> I have never driven a Pacer

18:47 <xcamel> OK... a gremlin

18:47 <CoderForLife> ditto - nit

18:48 <CoderForLife> er not

18:48 <xcamel> a pint?

18:48 <xcamel> er pinto?

18:48 <CoderForLife> nope

18:48 <xcamel> a vega then.

18:48 <CoderForLife> nada

18:48 <xcamel> valiant?

18:49 <CoderForLife> zilch

18:49 <xcamel> you're just no damned fun at all.

18:49 <CoderForLife> that's because I use vi

18:50 <xcamel> an edsel

18:50 <CoderForLife> no

18:51 <CoderForLife> 1yyp

18:51 <PovAddict> wrong window, CFL

18:51 <CoderForLife> I just did that to see if you were paying attention

18:53 * CoderForLife restarts sendmail with new cf

18:54 <CoderForLife> looks like sendmail and dovecot are alive

18:55 <CoderForLife> now to config logwatch and put it in my crontab to e-mail me

19:01 <CoderForLife> hmm

19:01 <CoderForLife> ahh  I need to .forward root

19:05 <CoderForLife> neat - first logwatch from F9 box

19:06 <CoderForLife> &monologue

19:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Your current monologue is at least 8 lines long.

19:07 <xcamel> fwiw... I would expel sendmail and install postfix

19:07 <CoderForLife> yes - I've had that recommendation before from you, it's appreciated

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19:08 <Romulus> I'm not sure where the information divided over 75+ wikis.

19:08 <CoderForLife> I have never had anyting but success with sendmail

19:08 <PovAddict> I have never had anything but failure with anything related to mailservers

19:09 <CoderForLife> I think that's because you did not set the outbound smtp gateway on a cable connection - the sure kiss of death being branded as a spammer

19:10 <PovAddict> I never managed anything inbound either

19:10 <CoderForLife> that's a DNS MX issue

19:11 <CoderForLife> I think

19:11 <PovAddict> I got an "expert" to try...

19:11 <PovAddict> he telnet'd to my SMTP server and it took a few minutes for the welcome message to appear o_o

19:11 <CoderForLife> FreeLarry is an expert?

19:11 <PovAddict> no, the guy I had as teacher on my Linux course is

19:12 <CoderForLife> dang that amazon.com

19:13 <CoderForLife> I put a book in my cart last night at $39.66

19:13 <CoderForLife> today it's list peice at 62.95

19:13 <CoderForLife> piece is right...  price...

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19:16 <xcamel> sendmail is just too easy to hack from outside

19:17 * PovAddict noticed both just too hard to configure from inside

19:17 <PovAddict> but I didn't try too hard

19:17 <CoderForLife> amazon's site is down

19:18 * CoderForLife loves his milter-greylist running in sendmail

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19:19 <CoderForLife> amazon is so hosed

19:19 <CoderForLife> brb  beverage

19:30 <CoderForLife> ok - you can all breathe again - I'm back

19:32 <CoderForLife> or not

19:33 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12023

19:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4vdwme> (at www.dailytech.com)

19:33 <Soul_keeper> the guberment got us all beat

19:33 <Soul_keeper> ibm procs

19:35 <CoderForLife> 12960 PlayStations strapped together

19:36 <Soul_keeper> well it's cell technology, i'd assume ibm gave it a die shrink and more cache for them

19:36 <Soul_keeper> plus the unspecified # of opterons

19:36 <Romulus> Although I'm going out of bed?

19:36 <CoderForLife> not Power 6?

19:37 <Soul_keeper> 12,960 chips,   116,640 processing cores

19:37 <Soul_keeper> looks like they are 8 core chips ...

19:38 <PovAddict> &math calc 116640 / 12960

19:38 <Romulus> PovAddict: 9

19:38 <Soul_keeper> probably 1000 opterons

19:38 <PovAddict> hmm round number too

19:38 <CoderForLife> I thought I said dual core

19:39 <Soul_keeper> i'd say they are quad core, and the difference is what is made up of the unspecified opterons

19:39 <CoderForLife> the computer consists of 6,948 dual-core computer chips and 12,960 cell engines, and it has 80 terabytes of memory.

19:39 <Soul_keeper> 8*

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19:39 <Soul_keeper> ahhh

19:40 <PovAddict> ah great

19:40 <PovAddict> 1pflop to investigate about nuclear weapons

19:41 <CoderForLife> wouldn't want them to go off by accident

19:41 <Soul_keeper> 13896 opteron cores + 103680 cell cores

19:42 <Soul_keeper> roughly 1/10

19:42 <Soul_keeper> i wonder if they have them beowulfed, or networked in some way  in 10 core nodes or something similar

19:43 <Soul_keeper> i'm surprised they didn't use GPU's  seems to be the trend lately

19:45 <CoderForLife> Roadrunner runs faster under wilecoyote than beowulf

19:45 <Soul_keeper> 6948 dual core opterons,  12960  8-core ibm cell procs

19:47 <Soul_keeper> the ps3 cells were 8-core right ?

19:47 <Soul_keeper> or was it 6-core or something ?

19:47 <CoderForLife> Roadrunner will use a hybrid design that combines more than 16,000 AMD Opteron cores, connected by InfiniBand with an equal number of Cell processors. The processors will be housed in IBM Cell blade servers. Roadrunner will use the Red Hat Linux operating system. When complete, Roadrunner will cover approximately 12,000 square feet. Roadrunner's hybrid architecture is expected to be duplicated and widely used by other cluster compu

19:49 <Soul_keeper> so basically each amd core will likely manage the 8 cell cores ...   could be efficient

19:49 <CoderForLife> Roadrunner, like other modern supercomputers, uses cluster computing to achieve higher and higher levels of performance. This approach is both cheaper and more extensible than the supercomputers of the early 90s, using commodity parts to achieve the final machine. Blue Gene, for instance, has been significantly upgraded since its first assembly. Consumers and research institutions with more limited means have used a similar approac

19:49 <Soul_keeper> i'm impressed

19:50 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: the ps3 cells have one main PPC core and seven SPEs, one of which is reserved to the operating system and inaccessible from games/programs

19:50 <zombie67> Each Cell chip already has a G4 controller.  The AMDs must be used for something else

19:50 <Soul_keeper> takes as much power as a small shopping mall

19:50 <CoderForLife> and to remove all doubt - "Roadrunner was named after the speedy bird of the same name in the American Southwest, colorfully depicted in a classic Warner Brothers cartoon."

19:50 <Romulus> rpms are a toolbar. I

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19:52 <Soul_keeper> i want to build one

19:52 <Soul_keeper> i've seen a roadrunner in the wild down here :)

19:53 <Soul_keeper> it was on an island in a lake that i was fishing on

19:54 <CoderForLife> They were constantly running around last time I was in Tucson

19:56 <Soul_keeper> how big were they ?

19:56 <Soul_keeper> the one i saw was maybe 2 or 3 feet tall

19:56 <Soul_keeper> i didn't get to see how fast it ran tho, it was just there, then i looked away and it was gone

19:58 <xcamel> lol

19:58 <CoderForLife> *beep*  *beep*

19:59 <CoderForLife> 3 feet??

19:59 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/Stocks/beep_beep.jpg

19:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6r99fz> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

19:59 <Soul_keeper> freakin' birds

19:59 <CoderForLife> all the ones I saw were 12 to 18 inches

20:00 <CoderForLife> but ~~fast~~

20:00 <Soul_keeper> heh

20:03 <Soul_keeper> ok 2 feet then ...

20:03 <Soul_keeper> it was standing on a rock tho

20:03 <CoderForLife> yes - all of them had 2 feet

20:04 <CoderForLife> but ~~fast~~

20:04 <Soul_keeper> did you grab them ?

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20:04 <CoderForLife> no too ~~fast~~

20:05 <Soul_keeper> whatever, my image says it all

20:06 <PovAddict> your image will make xcamel kick you

20:07 <xcamel> things like that speak for themselves

20:09 <CoderForLife> ah - mc on F9

20:10 <PovAddict> hmm

20:10 <PovAddict> download.skype.com 30.64K/s

20:10 <PovAddict> o_o

20:11 <xcamel> mc is very handy

20:13 <Soul_keeper> :)

20:14 <CoderForLife> yeah, I have always liked mc/nc

20:14 <Soul_keeper> mcedit  if you just want to use it as a text editor

20:15 <CoderForLife> as previously discussed, I used vi and drive a Pacer

20:16 <CoderForLife> there were no Pinto's available as they were all used as ammo by the Missouri

20:18 <CoderForLife> I'm off to watch some TV, before going to bed

20:18 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:18 <xcamel> carrier catapult tests also...

20:18 <CoderForLife> poor lift there at the end

20:20 <CoderForLife> would probably do slightly better with a Delorean

20:20 <CoderForLife> bye =)

20:22 <Soul_keeper> ok

20:22 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, if you liked that pic i got an even better one ...

20:23 <Soul_keeper> you've probably seen it tho

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20:43 <xcamel> &wx 12074

20:43 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 79.6F / 26.4C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. ; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be (2 more messages)

20:44 <xcamel> &more

20:44 <Romulus> xcamel: severe. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the mid 90s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent. ; Tuesday Night - Mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening...then partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe in the evening. Locally heavy rainfall possible in the evening. (1 more message)

20:44 <xcamel> &more

20:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Lows in the lower 60s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent. ;

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21:52 <Soul_keeper> i want a computex babe

21:53 <xcamel> laterz...

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23:55 <efc> moo

23:55 <MTughan> 'lo e

23:56 <efc> hehe Bible "Original Signed Copy" $20

23:57 <PovAddict> signed by whom? o_O

23:57 <efc> The author I guess

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