00:00 <BadBarbarian> what are you crunching MT
00:00 <MTughan> The Scythe's much quieter.
00:00 <MTughan> In BOINC?
00:00 <BadBarbarian> this ones got a big typhoon in it i can;t believe how quiet it is
00:01 <MTughan> The P4 here is on AI, BURP, E@H, LHC, POEM, PrimeGrid, RS, sudoku, Superlink, TSP, and WCG. The laptop's on more.
00:01 <BadBarbarian> yes
00:01 <BadBarbarian> i am on rs abc & primegrid i am running xp x64
00:01 <MTughan> Linux/x86.
00:02 <MTughan> This is also a P4 Prescott with socket 478. xD
00:02 <BadBarbarian> no hyper thread :-(
00:02 <MTughan> Even the Mac wasn't 64-bit because it uses a Core Duo, not a Core 2 Duo.
00:02 <MTughan> Yes, HT. Why?
00:03 <BadBarbarian> it will run x64 in windows
00:03 <MTughan> The Core Duo?
00:03 <BadBarbarian> it should run linux x64
00:03 <BadBarbarian> yes and the ht
00:03 <MTughan> How? They're 64-bit OSes.
00:03 <MTughan> I know for a fact that these are 32-bit processors.
00:04 <BadBarbarian> theres an emulation built in to x64 for multable cru's including ht cpu's
00:04 <MTughan> Built into what?
00:05 <BadBarbarian> ask tankmaster hes run x64 on both i have not myself
00:06 <MTughan> And if I'm not gonna get 64-bit performance, what's the point?
00:06 <BadBarbarian> i was an AMD man for a long time the quads are my first intel cpu's in 6 years
00:07 <MTughan> This will be the second processor I've ever had. First was selected for me by my dad.
00:07 <BadBarbarian> lol i have xp x64 running on a first gen. and 64bit
00:08 <MTughan> I considered the AMD Phenoms, but they still don't quite stack up to the Q6600s.
00:08 <MTughan> Let alone the Q9450 or any Core 2 Extremes.
00:08 <BadBarbarian> i have been building systems forever my first cpu was a 286-12
00:09 <MTughan> The ancestor of the i586?
00:10 <BadBarbarian> it goes 8080 ,80286 80386 80486 p1 p2 p3 p4 so on
00:10 <MTughan> Right...
00:10 <MTughan> I remember reading that someplace before.
00:10 <BadBarbarian> i did have to work on IBM 8080's
00:11 <BadBarbarian> 256 k ram
00:11 <MTughan> Nice!
00:13 <MTughan> plink 220.127.116.11
00:14 <MTughan> DoS-ing a guy on another channel.
00:15 <MTughan> Ouch... 39Mb/s
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04:16 <factor> it would be cool if boinc setiathome could export kstars position
04:16 <factor> so you know which part of the sky you are working on
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04:27 <efc> I think it does have some kind of position in the WUs..
04:28 <efc> RA and DEC start and stop is in the WUs
04:29 <CoderForLife> morning efc
04:31 <factor> humm
04:31 <factor> would be cool to make a kstar converter
04:31 <factor> or google sky one
04:33 <factor> and I wonder if seti detects or could detect any kind of warp signature as well? if anything even exist
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04:39 <CoderForLife> what does a warp signature consist of?
04:39 <factor> heh
04:40 <CoderForLife> besides fiction =)
04:40 <factor> I would imagine a gravitational flux or warp
04:40 <factor> right
04:40 <factor> a warp without a sun
04:40 <factor> graviational fluxes without natrual casue
04:41 <CoderForLife> I flux up all the time
04:41 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 65.1°F / 18.4°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.26in / 1024.6hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the (1 more message)
04:41 <factor> if we see lots of gravitational fluxes but no reason
04:41 <CoderForLife> &more
04:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: evening. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;
04:42 <factor> dont know how sensitive we can detect gravity
04:42 <CoderForLife> I flux up all the time for no reason at all
04:42 <factor> or if we have to do it indirectly
04:42 <factor> and in that flux is life
04:45 <CoderForLife> Ooo meta-physical
04:45 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
04:53 <factor> something like that
04:53 <factor> you would look at the sky and see a lensing effect
04:55 <factor> that is the actual idea the image before is simulation but a ship with gravitational warp capabilities would do that as well
04:57 <factor> ok off to sleep
04:58 <factor> but did not know what kind of singals seti was scanning says triplet spikes etc..
04:58 <CoderForLife> cya
04:58 <factor> I was wondering if any system was detecting gravity lensing
04:59 <CoderForLife> you're looking for an optical effect from a radio telescope?
05:01 <factor> everything is waves
05:25 * KathrynM is back (gone 17:01:18)
05:29 <CoderForLife> thank goodness
05:33 * KathrynM waves a frying pan at CoderForLife
05:33 <CoderForLife> ack - are you threatening me??
05:33 <KathrynM> nah
05:33 <KathrynM> just saying hi
05:33 <KathrynM> and cooking dinner
05:34 <CoderForLife> it's probably dangerous to wave the pan you're currently cooking with...
05:35 <KathrynM> true... now there are onions all over the floor
05:35 <CoderForLife> that makes me cry
05:35 <KathrynM> gotta check the chicken.... brb
05:36 <CoderForLife> go chick the checken
05:37 <CoderForLife> if they were from Eastern Europe, you might have to check the Czech chicken
05:38 <efc> i think there is some gravity wave type project
05:38 <efc> maybe thats Einstein, i dunno
05:39 <CoderForLife> I think you're right efc
05:46 <xcamel> boo..
05:46 <CoderForLife> boo
05:47 <KathrynM> boo hoo?
05:48 <CoderForLife> did you chech the Czech chickens' wheat chex?
05:48 <KathrynM> I think so
05:49 <CoderForLife> I'm running a bit behind here - got to go get ready for w@#%
05:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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06:35 <hawmps> spork'd >> 18.104.22.168
06:36 <CoderForLife> back
06:37 <CoderForLife> kerplunked - thx hawmps
06:38 <CoderForLife> well - time to ride my mighty steed into w@#%
06:39 <CoderForLife> get to spend some time on application performance tuning today
06:39 <CoderForLife> aka log file analysis
06:39 <CoderForLife> phun
06:39 <CoderForLife> cya laterz
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12:44 <hawmps> another beautiful day...
12:48 <Tank_Master> ?
12:52 <wdsmia_w> looks like there going to close down I-80
12:52 <Tank_Master> fun
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12:53 <Tank_Master> they say we might get into the 70s today
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14:53 <freelarry> &wx 98366
14:53 <Romulus> freelarry: Temperature: 60.3°F / 15.7°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy this morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs in the 60s. Southwest wind to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of drizzle after midnight. Lows in the mid 40s to lower (1 more message)
14:54 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001
14:54 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 90.9°F / 32.7°C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 30.08in / 1018.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Sunny. Highs around 90. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 70. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Friday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph.;
14:54 <freelarry> will get there soon enough jackygrahamez - heatpump already set for ac mode
14:55 <jackygrahamez> Don't worry I'm still riding my bicycle
14:55 <jackygrahamez> drink lots of water though
14:55 <freelarry> wish i could - 25+ miles one way to work
14:55 <jackygrahamez> It was not very wise of me to go drinking after softball last night
14:56 <freelarry> nooo - drink a lot of water this am
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16:13 <CoderForLife> well, if that place is one of the 100 best places to w@#%, I pity those who w@#% for the other places
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16:44 <MTughan> Anyone know how to tell the stepping of a CPU from its box?
16:44 <MTughan> Or if it's on there?
16:47 * CoderForLife shrugs his shoulders
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16:51 <MTughan> Because the site where I'm looking at getting my Q6600 says a TDP of 105W, which indicates B3 stepping, but I thought that it had been out for a while.
16:51 <MTughan> That G0 had completely replaced it.
16:52 <MTughan> Just looking too... Provided the RAM and NB can perform up to their specs, I can take the Q6600 up to 3GHz without overclocking either.
16:53 <MTughan> To go past that, I'd need to OC the NB. RAM won't require OCing until 3.6GHz.
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16:54 <slasko> hi, have anyone here tryid to run seti@home on a cluster?
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17:14 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
17:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 93.2°F / 34.0°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this evening. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Friday - Partly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms mainly (1 more message)
17:14 <CoderForLife> &more
17:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Friday Night - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Muggy. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.;
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17:22 <CoderForLife> bonsoir benje
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17:26 <wdsmia> re-hi
17:29 <CoderForLife> hello Doug
17:29 <wdsmia> *lo Don
17:29 <CoderForLife> how was w@#% today?
17:29 <wdsmia> interesting
17:29 <CoderForLife> I would think
17:31 <wdsmia> looks like were going to have to power down the backend this weekend :(
17:32 <xcamel> re-hi
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17:33 <wdsmia> *lo Mr Jay
17:33 <xcamel> Got your Ark built yet?
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17:33 <wdsmia> whats a cubit?
17:33 <xcamel> indeed
17:33 <xcamel> I feel bad for you folks now..
17:35 <wdsmia> glad my house in on a hill
17:35 <xcamel> Truth is, more people devastated in IA/IL/IN now than in LA with katrina - but the press is forbidden from speaking a word of it...
17:35 <CoderForLife> remember, walk two-by-two
17:36 <CoderForLife> hope your hill holds up, wdsmia
17:36 <wdsmia> were really just trying to take the state motto away from Minn
17:37 <wdsmia> land of a 1000 lakes
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17:37 <PovAddict> xcamel: sounds like plain old censorship
17:38 <xcamel> PC run amok, frankly.
17:38 <wdsmia> it was a bad day to be a boy scout yesterday
17:38 <xcamel> and that would be 10,000 lakes
17:39 <wdsmia> were working on the 10,000 lol
17:39 <xcamel> I saw the story... they turned out to be real heroes though..
17:41 <wdsmia> Grrr... damn weather radio is going to burn out its buzzer
17:42 <xcamel> anyone else get the last winduhs update (XPSP3) ?
17:43 <xcamel> my winbox here has started doing random reboots..
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17:44 <wdsmia> ouch
17:45 <PovAddict> I heard rumors that SP3 was intentionally crap to force people into Vista (since Vista would then be more stable than XP SP3)
17:45 <PovAddict> I think that's just paranoid...
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17:46 <PovAddict> conspiracy theory
17:48 <CoderForLife> huh?
17:50 <CoderForLife> I'm running SP3 on this machine, xcamel
17:51 <CoderForLife> "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run"
17:51 <CoderForLife> mc
17:51 <CoderForLife> oops
17:51 <CoderForLife> other window...
17:52 <PovAddict> here's the conspiracy crap:
17:52 <PovAddict> "SP3 came out. Microsoft says it fixes bugs. In fact, it hinders your computer to try to nudge you toward Vista. DO NOT DOWNLOAD! If you do, go in install/uninstall and remove it. It's really obvious if you read some of the code. Just spread the word to your friends on XP."
17:53 <PovAddict> and the first reply on the forum: " 'if you read some of the code'? What??"
17:53 <CoderForLife> I see the sources are well-documented
17:53 <CoderForLife> the evidence is clealy laid out and lucidly explained
17:53 <CoderForLife> clearly*
17:54 * CoderForLife removes moodle from F9 after futzing with it to try and see what is does,
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18:02 <CoderForLife> I'm going after some pure R&R this evening
18:02 <CoderForLife> cya folks on the flip side
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18:17 <xcamel> I've had 4 unscheduled reboots since the last minimal update to SP3
18:17 <xcamel> (2 days now)
18:18 <PovAddict> watch your Windows Updates settings
18:19 <PovAddict> maybe installing SP3 reset it to "install updates automatically and reboot when I'm least expecting it"
18:26 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:39:16)
18:26 <KathrynM> mornin
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18:46 <PovAddict> looking some more into asio
18:46 <PovAddict> looks interesting to use in my GUI RPC library, but I'd have to design the whole code around it...
18:46 <KathrynM> mornin PovAddict
18:46 <KathrynM> sounds like the Coding is coming along then
18:46 <PovAddict> = it would be hard if I wanted to change to a different networking library later
18:47 <PovAddict> the main thing it shows off is its efficiency handling hundreds of connections
18:47 <PovAddict> with lots of data being transferred
18:48 <PovAddict> I need one connection sending a few bytes every second (1 second is a long time in code)
18:49 <KathrynM> with the speed of today's machines, 1 second is an eternity
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19:02 <KathrynM> zombie67~
19:02 <KathrynM> errr
19:02 <KathrynM> zombie67!
19:03 <xcamel> 'lo Kat, Zom-bony
19:04 <KathrynM> xcamel!
19:04 * KathrynM is getting hyper this morning
19:04 <zombie67> hi!
19:06 <xcamel> hyper has generally left my vocabulary...
19:09 <Soul_keeper> bla
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19:23 <efc> moo
19:23 <efc> &whatis win32
19:23 <Romulus> efc: "win32" could be http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/boinc_5.10.45_windows_intelx86.exe
19:25 <efc> &whatis win16
19:25 <Romulus> efc: Error: No factoid matches that key.
19:44 <xcamel> you gotta see this one...
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20:07 <efc> Only 4 donations this month to S@H ...
20:08 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
20:09 <efc> Do they ever solicit donations for BOINC separate from S@H?
20:11 <PovAddict> no, BOINC is funded
20:11 <PovAddict> by the NSF
20:11 <efc> Cool
20:15 <xcamel> national sanitation foundation?
20:15 <zombie67> no, funded by US residents
20:15 <PovAddict> science...
20:15 <zombie67> rather, US tax payers
20:15 <zombie67> aka "the rich"
20:16 <efc> Its REAL SCIENCE
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20:18 <xcamel> cosmic garbologists
20:19 <efc> Its REAL SCIENCE.. for only the cost of a post..age stamp you can enhance that special part of the ma*lost carrier*
20:21 * efc pictures the day when the Nobel Prize in Medicine goes to Enzyte or Dermimax
20:26 <xcamel> like IRCalis
20:26 <xcamel> for conectile dysfunction
20:32 <xcamel> ed - check this out...
20:36 <xcamel> live chase feeds
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21:02 <efc> 16:37 tonight for what took me 18:00 the last two nights
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22:10 <MTughan> Well, ditching the nVidia northbridge chipsets, because it seems that they are worse at overclocking than Intel's. So I just won't do SLI.
22:13 <BadBarbarian> if your running 32bit windows MT paluit has a realy nice 8600 that OCes well with the omega drivers
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22:13 <MTughan> Naw, gonna go with Fedora x86_64 and Vista x86_64.
22:13 <MTughan> And looking at a 9600GT Silent already.
22:14 <MTughan> Which, with overclocking, can apparently rival an 8800GT, despite having half the stream processors... :D
22:16 <BadBarbarian> check this Mt what do you think
22:18 <BadBarbarian> wow i like this one even better
22:18 <BadBarbarian> http://www.thinkcomputers.org/index.php?x=reviews&id=760
22:18 <MTughan> So the core clock and memory interfaces are overclocked slightly (650MHz to 700MHz core and 1.8GHz to 2.0GHz mem)...
22:19 <MTughan> Nice... Although would come with a large premium.
22:19 <MTughan> I can get the same card as the link for the same price, but with stock clocks (nothing a bit of tweaking can't fix ;) ) and a silent cooler.
22:20 <BadBarbarian> i have used palit sense they started 5 years ago great cards
22:20 <MTughan> No passive heatsinks though.
22:21 <MTughan> From what I can see here (not full selection though), that goes to Asus, MSI, and Zotac.
22:21 <MTughan> Yeah, $30 more.
22:22 <BadBarbarian> yep
22:22 <MTughan> For that price, I can get an 8800GTS.
22:22 <MTughan> PNY card, but the XFX is close.
22:22 <BadBarbarian> there software is great allws full fan comtroll but dont know if they have a linux version
22:23 <MTughan> There are nVidia drivers for Linux... These are separate?
22:23 <MTughan> Wow, I can still get an XFX GeForce 7200GS...
22:23 <MTughan> Cool enough for one small heatsink. :P
22:24 <PovAddict> you're becoming one hell of a hardware junkie
22:24 <MTughan> Heh...
22:24 <PovAddict> although I think I should overclock
22:24 <MTughan> BadBarbarian: http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018753&cid=999.243.390
22:25 <MTughan> Slower clock and mem rates, closer to the 9600GT stock, but double the stream processors.
22:25 <PovAddict> and make some kind of cooler that sends the heat of the CPU right to my frozen hands
22:26 <PovAddict> omg
22:26 <PovAddict> I thought they were up to 100-something... 147, eek...
22:26 <MTughan> Interesting... The Palit 1GB one has a dedicated HDMI port. Most other 9600 series have it in the DVI port.
22:26 <MTughan> What?
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22:26 <PovAddict> there are currently 147 episodes of this podcast
22:26 <PovAddict> a new one comes out every *week*
22:26 <MTughan> What podcast?
22:27 <PovAddict> if I start listening them from the first one, one a day, how much would I take to catch up?
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22:27 <MTughan> That's hard to tell, because while you're listening to old ones, new ones have come out...
22:27 <MTughan> &math 147 / 7
22:27 <Romulus> MTughan: 21
22:28 <PovAddict> that's 21 *weeks*
22:28 <MTughan> 25 weeks.
22:28 <PovAddict> &google calc 147 / (1 week -1 day) in days
22:28 <Romulus> PovAddict: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:28 <PovAddict> &google calc 147 / (1 week -1 day)
22:28 <Romulus> PovAddict: 147 / ((1 week) - (1 day)) = 0.000283564815 hertz
22:28 <PovAddict> what the
22:28 <MTughan> So while you're listening to the ones you missed, 21 new ones have come out. That takes another 3 weeks to listen to, in which another 3 have come out. And that takes less than a week.
22:29 <BadBarbarian> Mt i am running the palit 8600 gt 1 gig in this system its great
22:29 <MTughan> 21 + 3 + 1 = 25
22:29 <PovAddict> it's easier to calculate than that
22:29 <PovAddict> oh wait, no I was doing it wrong
22:29 <MTughan> The 1GB link you gave me was a 9600 card...
22:29 <PovAddict> I was calculating /6 since it's going 7 steps forward every week and one backward to reach the goal
22:30 <PovAddict> one backward being the new episode out
22:30 <MTughan> So was the Newegg link...
22:30 <MTughan> &math 147 / 6
22:30 <Romulus> MTughan: 24.5
22:30 <MTughan> Oh, I didn't think of that way...
22:30 <PovAddict> &google calc 24.5 weeks in months
22:30 <Romulus> PovAddict: 24.5 weeks = 5.63461727 months
22:30 <MTughan> That requires some serious commitment...
22:31 <MTughan> That'd put you into what, early December?
22:31 <MTughan> I wonder...
22:32 <MTughan> &google calc today + 1 day
22:32 <Romulus> MTughan: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:32 <MTughan> &google calc today
22:32 <Romulus> MTughan: Google's calculator didn't come up with anything.
22:32 <MTughan> Okay, so that doesn't work then.
22:34 <PovAddict> and in addition, I'll keep "outdated" most of the time
22:34 <PovAddict> since the podcast may talk about recent stuff, and by the time I listen it it would be old already :P
22:34 <Romulus> Title: GRC | Security Now! | Featuring episode #148 (at www.grc.com)
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22:59 <PovAddict> I used amarok to copy a podcast episode to the iPod
22:59 <PovAddict> via ssh
22:59 <PovAddict> now the iPod says I have no music
23:01 <PovAddict> naturally I did no backup first
23:01 <PovAddict> well f#ck
23:14 <PovAddict> got it working! stupid FirewireGuid
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