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00:06 <MTughan> &xkcd rofl
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00:15 <surreal> w00t
00:15 <surreal> i got another Q6600 to add to my boinc account
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00:38 <efc> storming crazy here
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00:40 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at www.strikestarus.com)
00:40 <efc> seems a lot worse here
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00:45 <Romulus> Title: www.reynoldswx.com - Reynolds Georgia Weather Conditions (at reynoldswx.com)
00:46 <efc> 85/minute
00:51 <MTughan> Even sounds bad...
00:53 <MTughan> Anyway, I have to be off to bed. See ya.
00:53 <Tank_Master> gn
00:53 <MTughan> Posted my idea of a BOINC Manager to the boinc_dev mailing list too just a few minutes ago... Maybe we'll see some reform.
00:53 <MTughan> :P
00:55 <Tank_Master> g/l with that
00:55 <MTughan> Have you seen it? http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrLayout.png
00:56 <Tank_Master> looks vary winDOS
00:56 <MTughan> Yeah, that's my drawing skills with GIMP...
00:56 <Tank_Master> :)
00:56 <Tank_Master> but it works
00:56 <MTughan> Supposed to be some OS X Leopard colours, but really not great with it...
00:57 <MTughan> If I can get something up in Interface Builder soon enough, oughta look cool.
00:57 <Tank_Master> to much room taken up at the top
00:58 <MTughan> That's for another toolbar, but I don't know what buttons to put up there yet.
00:58 <MTughan> Attach to Project would probably be one...
00:58 <Tank_Master> ahh
01:04 <MTughan> There. Refresh the image.
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01:10 <surreal> hmm
01:10 <surreal> i'm getting some weird ass performance with my new Q6600
01:10 <surreal> running linux
01:10 <MTughan> How so?
01:11 <surreal> it switches between core 0 and core 2
01:11 <surreal> and the gui hangs
01:12 <MTughan> What version?
01:12 <Romulus> Somebody said What version are you using now, MTughan
01:12 <MTughan> You're not asking me, I'm asking surreal...
01:12 <surreal> hmm 5.10 something
01:12 <surreal> i just emerged it
01:12 <MTughan> 5.10.45 probably then...
01:13 <surreal> yeah it's really odd ... it's not doing this on my other gentoo pc
01:13 <MTughan> You could always try downloading the 6.2 beta. There are a few quirks, but it's fairly good right now.
01:13 <surreal> i'm too tired to putz with it tonight
01:13 <surreal> haha
01:13 <surreal> i've got work in 6 hrs
01:13 <surreal> i'll just let it do whatever its doing for now
01:13 <surreal> figure out tomorrow
01:13 <MTughan> School in 7h45m here.
01:14 <surreal> but at least the beast is built
01:14 <surreal> now i have two Q6600 crunchers
01:14 <MTughan> How are the Q6600's?
01:14 <surreal> so i can retire this BE2350 to a PVR
01:14 <surreal> great
01:14 <surreal> i've o/c'd them to 3ghz each
01:14 <surreal> 4200 RAC the first roughly
01:14 <surreal> and it's still climbing
01:14 <surreal> so i'm hoping for 5k rac on each
01:14 <MTughan> Planning on getting one myself. Got a Zalman 9500 cooler already, so I'd OC to 3.4 or higher if I can. :D
01:15 <surreal> that'll all depend on the voltage you'll need to run to it, mobo, etc
01:15 <surreal> the one in my gaming system is undervolted
01:15 <MTughan> Just OC'd my P4 2.8GHz to 3.15GHz. I think I can go higher, but Windows was randomly rebooting. Haven't figured out if it was the proc or the OS...
01:15 <surreal> and gets 3ghz
01:15 <surreal> this one gets 3ghz on stock voltage
01:15 <MTughan> I'd be running either a P35 or an X38 chipset MB.
01:16 <MTughan> With at least a 550W PSU.
01:16 <surreal> go 600 at least
01:16 <surreal> if you've got multiple hard drives
01:16 <MTughan> 2, but only one runs at a time.
01:16 <surreal> 600w psu's are at a good price overall
01:16 <Soul_keeper> that's a respectable oc MTughan
01:16 <Soul_keeper> :)
01:16 <surreal> i picked up my antec for $60
01:16 <surreal> and an OCZ for $65 after MIR
01:16 <MTughan> And my GPU from 523MHz to 590MHz. :D
01:16 <surreal> my room is full of blue LED's now
01:17 <surreal> ok gonna let this run for now
01:17 <MTughan> You're getting 600W PSUs for $60?
01:17 <surreal> hopefully it'll fix itself by the time i wake up
01:17 <surreal> yup
01:17 <surreal> NCIX had a sale 2 weeks ago
01:17 <surreal> $5.99 ground shipping
01:17 <MTughan> Ah, that explains it...
01:17 <surreal> and one of the door crashers was an Antec TruePower Trio 650W PSU
01:17 <Soul_keeper> i got a 650watt antec like 3 months ago, was 98 bucks locally
01:17 <surreal> $60
01:18 <surreal> and last week I ordered the OCZ gamer series PSU
01:18 <surreal> with blue LED's
01:18 <surreal> $90
01:18 <MTughan> The TruePower Trio 650W here is $110.
01:18 <surreal> but has like a $25 MIR
01:18 <MTughan> I have a TruePower (not Trio) 550W right now.
01:18 <MTughan> BTW, GPU was a Radeon 9600XT...
01:19 <surreal> i haven't even touched O/C'ing the 9600GT I just bought too
01:19 <surreal> lol
01:19 <surreal> but for $99 after MIR
01:19 <MTughan> Oh, I can get an Antec EarthWatts 650W PSU for $60.
01:19 <surreal> it sure beat an ATI 3870 I was looking at
01:19 <Soul_keeper> untill we can run boinc projects on the gpu no real point in oc'n it
01:19 <MTughan> Ah, planning on doing that too... Asus 9600GT Silent.
01:19 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, that's what i got is the earthwatts
01:19 <surreal> MTughan, I got the BFG version
01:19 <MTughan> Was looking at the NeoPower here, with the modular cables.
01:19 <surreal> $139
01:19 <surreal> then $40 MIR
01:20 <MTughan> Looking for a powerful computer, that's also dead quiet.
01:20 <surreal> $99 and a lifetime warranty
01:20 <MTughan> $170 for the Asus.
01:20 <surreal> I don't play crisis so I don't need to OC
01:20 <Soul_keeper> i got the earthwatts because it was the most recently released psu in antec's products
01:20 <MTughan> Planning to possibly play Call of Duty though.
01:20 <surreal> ok bedtime
01:20 <Soul_keeper> highest efficiency
01:20 <MTughan> Bye.
01:20 <surreal> catch you guys on the flip side
01:20 <Soul_keeper> late
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01:21 <MTughan> I suppose what I could always do is splurge on a 1000W PSU now and keep it for a decade. xD
01:21 <MTughan> Or a 1250W... Nice.
01:21 <Soul_keeper> nah it'll be outdated in like 1yr
01:21 <Soul_keeper> they'll switch the connectors on you
01:22 <MTughan> And the 650W?
01:22 <efc_P3_600> What a ridiculous amount of power..
01:22 <Soul_keeper> i have a perfectly good 550 truecontrol, but had to get the 650 because they changed the connectors
01:22 <MTughan> Not for a commercial workstation, it's not.
01:23 <Soul_keeper> if you do sli or crossfire on an overclocked system you can easily pull like 500 watts on the spikes
01:23 <MTughan> Yep, 1250W seems to be the most powerful here. A few 1200W units too.
01:23 <Soul_keeper> top end stuff of course
01:24 <MTughan> Yeah, was planning on allowing for expandability to SLI, but apparently the nVidia chipsets aren't great for OC'ing Intel CPUs... Not as good as Intel's chips anyway.
01:24 <Soul_keeper> even if you don't max the psu out stability goes down as power usage goes up, the rails lag
01:24 <MTughan> So I changed from looking for an nForce NB to a P35 or X38 NB.
01:25 <MTughan> Ah, CAD updated... Reading it, then I need to go to bed.
01:25 <Soul_keeper> intel chipsets for intel cpu
01:25 <Soul_keeper> that's always been the best
01:25 <efc_P3_600> I think I'm going to get a Kill-a-watt and do some measurements, should be interesting
01:25 <Soul_keeper> amd is good with mixing it up tho
01:26 <Soul_keeper> efc_P3_600, yeah i picked one up from newegg 6 months back
01:26 <MTughan> May be, but AMD's Phenoms still don't quite measure up to the Core 2 Quads, not even the Kentsfield cores.
01:26 <MTughan> Anyway, seeya.
01:26 <efc_P3_600> this thing is running on a 235 watt, probably very lightly loaded on it, but its ancient
01:27 <efc_P3_600> I'd be able to see for sure
01:28 <Soul_keeper> i got a c2d system at 3GHz with integrated graphics and matx mb, it only pulls 120 watts under load
01:28 <Soul_keeper> measured with the killawatt
01:28 <Soul_keeper> my P4 at 3.2 pulls well over 300 watts with an nvidia 6800
01:28 <efc_P3_600> Nice
01:29 <efc_P3_600> Yeah P4 needs to get the Energy-Star Flunk award
01:30 <Soul_keeper> welp i'm headed out for the night, late
01:34 <efc_P3_600> Night
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02:06 <Tank_Master> &cyborg KoToR
02:07 <Romulus> Tank_Master: K.O.T.O.R.: Knight Optimized for Troubleshooting and Online Repair
02:10 <efc> &cybog WOTAN
02:10 <Romulus> Wish I knew!
02:10 <efc> oops
02:10 <efc> &cyborg WOTAN
02:10 <Romulus> efc: W.O.T.A.N.: Worker Optimized for Troubleshooting and Accurate Nullification
02:10 <efc> Ummmmmmm
02:11 <efc> I assume that was "Wanker"
02:13 <Tank_Master> worker
02:14 <efc> I think I like the former better
02:15 <Tank_Master> lol
02:15 <efc> That would be the best CYBORG ever
02:16 <Tank_Master> &cyborg Democratic
02:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: D.E.M.O.C.R.A.T.I.C.: Digital Electronic Machine Optimized for Ceaseless Repair, Accurate Troubleshooting and Immediate Calculation
02:16 <Tank_Master> &cyborg republican
02:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: R.E.P.U.B.L.I.C.A.N.: Robotic Electronic Person Used for Basic Learning, Immediate Calculation and Accurate Nullification
02:17 <efc> more like Instant Calcification
02:17 <Tank_Master> huh, at least the rebublican can learn...
02:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg libertarian
02:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.
02:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg libertaria
02:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: L.I.B.E.R.T.A.R.I.A.: Lifelike Intelligent Being Engineered for Rational Troubleshooting, Accurate Repair and Immediate Assassination
02:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg ibertarian
02:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I.B.E.R.T.A.R.I.A.N.: Intelligent Biomechanical Entity Responsible for Thorough Assassination, Rational Infiltration and Accurate Nullification
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02:19 <Tank_Master> well, that didnt work
02:21 <efc> &cyborg LIBERAL
02:21 <Romulus> efc: L.I.B.E.R.A.L.: Lifeform Intended for Battle, Efficient Repair and Accurate Learning
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02:38 <efc> 1000 cores in a 42U rack
02:38 <Tank_Master> mmmm
02:39 <Tank_Master> 45nm cores?
02:39 <efc> Xeon 5400 whatever that is
02:40 <Tank_Master> 65nm quads
02:40 <Tank_Master> still aint bad
02:40 <efc> wait for the fpga rack :)
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02:54 <efc> they seem to be under 10 watts but hard to say exactly
02:54 <efc> mine being 3 or 4
03:00 <efc> they do have some in 65 nm now
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03:57 <efc> &weather 31088
03:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 69°F / 20°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the lower (1 more message)
03:57 <efc> &more
03:57 <Romulus> efc: 70s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds up to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;
03:57 <efc> left out the flood warning
03:57 <efc> &weather reynolds, ga
03:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 67.9°F / 19.9°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 90s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows (1 more message)
03:57 <efc> &more
03:57 <Romulus> efc: around 70. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 90s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;
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05:10 * KathrynM is back (gone 09:02:31)
05:10 * CoderForLife is awakened by the alarm
05:10 <CoderForLife> well - that's a first in a long while
05:11 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
05:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 65.8°F / 18.8°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 (1 more message)
05:11 <CoderForLife> &more
05:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.;
05:11 <CoderForLife> brb breakfast
05:18 <CoderForLife> b
05:19 <KathrynM> mornin
05:19 <CoderForLife> hey =)
05:20 <KathrynM> swimming?
05:20 <CoderForLife> in humidity
05:20 <KathrynM> hill holding up?
05:21 <CoderForLife> it hasn't completely fallen down...
05:21 <KathrynM> construction start soon?
05:21 <CoderForLife> I see a progress report is needed.. =)
05:21 <KathrynM> yes
05:22 <CoderForLife> I have the final plan from the civil engineer. I've made contact with the most likely contractor..
05:23 <CoderForLife> he shoud,have picked up the plan from the civil this past weekend..
05:23 <CoderForLife> he will be on vacation this week..
05:23 <CoderForLife> but said that he could get me pricing by mid-week the week after..
05:23 <CoderForLife> I just got an e-mail this morning..
05:24 <CoderForLife> from the homeowner's association asking if they can come by tonight or tomorrow night to approve the plan..
05:24 <KathrynM> ouch
05:24 <CoderForLife> I have figured out about (hopefully) 80% of the financing
05:25 <KathrynM> that's good
05:25 <CoderForLife> *assuming* my civil wa sright about the installed cost
05:25 * KathrynM crosses fingers
05:25 <CoderForLife> I am hoping he was *too high* =)
05:26 <KathrynM> me too
05:27 <CoderForLife> I am going to try to get in touch with another contractor - an e-mail I sent to introduce myself and my need bounced back - mailbox full
05:27 <KathrynM> that's a positive sign
05:27 * KathrynM shakes head
05:27 <CoderForLife> it's a sign all right
05:28 <KathrynM> brb... gonna make some dinner
05:28 <CoderForLife> I guess that sums up the status
05:28 <CoderForLife> k
05:37 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab
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05:43 <dizzie_> Morning all :)
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06:16 <CoderForLife> morning dizzie wdsmia
06:16 <CoderForLife> just finishing up w@#% prep here
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06:29 <hawmps> spork'd >> 126.96.36.199
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06:38 <CoderForLife> gesporkened - thx
06:39 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%
06:39 <CoderForLife> laterzz
06:39 * CoderForLife sees he is still yet away
06:39 * CoderForLife makes it more so
07:05 <ELGono> main power failure on campus is always phunstuff
07:19 <hawmps> 'lo ElG
07:24 <ELGono> lo jay
07:27 <hawmps> another one >> 188.8.131.52
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09:14 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001
09:14 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 79.0°F / 26.1°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Increasing cloudiness. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely in (1 more message)
09:14 <jackygrahamez> &more
09:14 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: the evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds in the evening. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 80. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.;
09:17 <jackygrahamez> Hi PovAddict_
09:18 <jackygrahamez> What you said last week made so much sense to me but now I forgot
09:18 <jackygrahamez> The humidity does that
09:20 <jackygrahamez> I remember you said make a wrapper and do something to get the python path...
09:23 <jackygrahamez> ahh I see we have logs!
09:23 <Tank_Master> :)
09:25 <jackygrahamez> <PovAddict> modify the wrapper so that it concatenates the project directory with "python.exe" *instead* of calling resolve_filename
09:25 <jackygrahamez> Ok as soon as I get boinc compiled again
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09:34 <jackygrahamez> If you build in samples in release do you need to build the libraries in release as well?
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09:37 <jackygrahamez> Looks like it does not mater
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09:47 <Tank_Master> just build it and they will come
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10:07 <chanueting> I've received these messages, what does it means?
10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:06 HKT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Account manager error: can't resolve hostname
10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:10 HKT||Access to reference site failed - check network connection or proxy configuration.
10:08 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:12 HKT|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name
10:08 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:06:12 HKT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
10:08 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:06:17 HKT|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name
10:10 <Tank_Master> haha
10:12 <dizzie> Mmmm spam?
10:13 <Tank_Master> spam I am
10:13 <dizzie> Isnt spam ham in a can? =)
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10:13 <Tank_Master> :Þ
10:14 <avis> i am not happy that boinc broadcasts my name as someone who contribute to boinc projects. well, not boinc, but the rosetta project and world community grid
10:14 <Tank_Master> ?
10:14 <Tank_Master> how do you mean?
10:15 <avis> my name is indexed in google searches as a contributor
10:15 <avis> i dont remember authorizing that
10:15 <Tank_Master> id blame google
10:15 <avis> why ? they did not choose to publish my name
10:16 <Tank_Master> they have a habit of indexing things they shouldnt
10:16 <avis> the web servers that world community grid and rosetta project chose to publish that, not google
10:16 <Tank_Master> id still blame google :P
10:17 <avis> i dont believe google will index pages that have been marked as "do not page" in their web master tools
10:17 <Tank_Master> oh, but they have in the past
10:18 <avis> that doesn't make them necessarily guilty in this case. i'd have to check the web page code, which i dont feel like doing.
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10:41 <hawmps> 3-wd's
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10:45 <Tank_Master> triplets
10:45 <e-30> hey
10:45 <Tank_Master> hi
10:46 <e-30> how are you doing
10:46 <Tank_Master> good
10:46 <e-30> cool still working out stuff here
10:46 *** PovAddict_ is now known as PovAddict
10:46 <Tank_Master> what for?
10:47 <e-30> trying to get stuff back working again so i can play my games
10:48 <Tank_Master> ahh
10:48 <Tank_Master> yeah, games are important
10:48 <e-30> yep
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10:50 <hawmps> 'lo e
10:53 <chanueting> I would like to ask what does 'Account manager error: can't resolve hostname' means
10:53 <Tank_Master> it cant find the SETI servers
10:53 <Tank_Master> cant translate the server name to an IP address
10:54 <chanueting> but the server is up, right?
10:54 <Tank_Master> knowing SETI?
10:54 <Tank_Master> it could easly be down
10:55 <dizzie> Isnt Seti pretty much always down ? :)
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10:55 <chanueting> but the site is up
10:55 <Tank_Master> not lately
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10:55 <Tank_Master> so?
10:55 <Romulus> It has been said that so is iStat, Tank_Master
10:55 <Tank_Master> huh?
10:57 <Tank_Master> seems like everything at SETI should be working fine
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10:59 <chanueting> I do think that there is some wrong setting on my computer but I have followed the one on Boinc wiki, any ideas
10:59 <Tank_Master> restart the comp
11:00 <Tank_Master> sometimes thatll clear out bad/old network settings
11:02 <PovAddict> avis: if you want privacy, don't use Internet
11:02 <chanueting> I get some wrong messages:
11:02 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at bam.boincstats.com)
11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:06 HKT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user. Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks
11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Account manager error: can't resolve hostname
11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11:03 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:10 HKT||Access to reference site failed - check network connection or proxy configuration.
11:03 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:12 HKT|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name
11:03 <chanueting> Let see what does these mean
11:03 <PovAddict> chanueting: stop pasting your messages here
11:03 <chanueting> restart the comp does not work
11:03 <PovAddict> if it's more than TWO lines, use a pastebin like www.pastebin.ca
11:03 <Tank_Master> it cant connect to either the SETI servers or BOINCstats
11:04 <Tank_Master> r u using the latest version of BOINC?
11:04 <Tank_Master> 5.10.45?
11:04 <Romulus> I guess 5.10.45 is considered the latest 'stable', Tank_Master
11:05 <e-30> ohb
11:05 <e-30> oh
11:05 <PovAddict> Romulus: forget 5.10.45
11:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.
11:05 <chanueting> PovAddict: sorry, I have just wanted to paste it on fedora IRC
11:05 <PovAddict> chanueting: never paste a dozen lines in any IRC channel
11:05 <hawmps> pasting here isn't a problem...
11:05 <Tank_Master> no, it really isnt a prob
11:06 <chanueting> so, what do you think?
11:06 <hawmps> just try to keep it less than 8-10
11:06 <hawmps> seti was bouncing on and off earlier...
11:07 <hawmps> so it could be their site...
11:07 <Tank_Master> but boincstats would still work is SETI was down
11:07 <hawmps> or your DNS is hosed up..
11:07 <Tank_Master> Account manager error: can't resolve hostname
11:07 <chanueting> how about boincstat?
11:07 <hawmps> which there has been a bunch of lately..
11:08 <PovAddict> chanueting: can you go to boincstats.com from your browser?
11:08 <chanueting> sure
11:09 <hawmps> ping boinc.berkeley.edu
11:09 <hawmps> if you can....
11:10 <chanueting> I can
11:10 <hawmps> hmmm...
11:11 <hawmps> can you bring up the setiathome web page?
11:11 <chanueting> I use FC9, when I use non-privileged user to run boinc, no problem exists, but there are the problems after using root
11:11 <hawmps> yeah.. that would do it...
11:12 <hawmps> did you install selinux?
11:12 <chanueting> yes
11:13 <hawmps> there's your answer... you'll have to run boinc as it's own user via a remote shell or something
11:14 <chanueting> sorry, I cannot see your point
11:15 <dizzie> dont run it as suid 0 (root)
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11:21 <chanueting> Isn't the site http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_on_Linux tell us to run it as root?
11:22 <chanueting> or, have I misunderstood?
11:22 <PovAddict> where?
11:22 <hawmps> that assumes you're "user" (not root)
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11:27 <chanueting> I am confused, why need I use root then?
11:28 <chanueting> Let see the part 'Fedora 7 and up'
11:28 <chanueting> Isn't the daemon ran by root?
11:30 <PovAddict> no, it never is
11:30 <PovAddict> you always need root to install any package
11:30 <PovAddict> but the fedora package then creates a whole new user for boinc to run in
11:31 <dizzie> i dont even know my root pass
11:31 <dizzie> sudo -i works :)
11:32 <chanueting> how about '/sbin/chkconfig boinc-client on' and '/sbin/service boinc-client start' in the passage?
11:32 <PovAddict> I don't know about fedora
11:35 <chanueting> neither do I at this point
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11:57 <KathrynM> FWIW, the stuff in the Fedora part about root is there because the package manager creates a boinc user without a password. At least I think so.
11:57 <KathrynM> I'm not using the package, but that's how the rpm was setup
11:57 <PovAddict> you always need root to install a package
11:57 <KathrynM> that and starting daemons has to be done as root
11:57 <KathrynM> I think he was mainly talking about
11:57 <KathrynM> As root, open /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg in a text editor (the long string of characters is the GUI RPC password).
11:58 <PovAddict> yep
11:58 <KathrynM> I'd rather control the boinc version myself
11:59 * KathrynM yawns
11:59 * KathrynM goes back to bed
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12:02 <yoyo[RKN]> moin
12:04 <yoyo[RKN]> is there a way to send messages to the boinc users direct into the boincmanager, e.g. in the message tab?
12:06 <PovAddict> errors returned by the server are shown in the messages tab
12:06 <PovAddict> like those "won't finish in time"
12:06 <yoyo[RKN]> I will send the rss news somehow
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12:07 <yoyo[RKN]> I can periodic update the gui_url.xml, to show e.g. 2 additional buttons with the latest news
12:07 <PovAddict> see sched/sched_send.C:1061
12:08 <PovAddict> you should use that USER_MESSAGE thing
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12:15 <yoyo[RKN]> somewhere I read that there is a table for hosts and if there is something in it will be send to the host on next connect, but do not remember where.
12:15 <PovAddict> yes, but those aren't messages to be shown to the user
12:15 <PovAddict> those are messages like "delete file", or trickle-downs for workunits
12:16 <yoyo[RKN]> aha, ok
12:16 <PovAddict> I have a new room thermometer :P
12:17 <PovAddict> $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
12:18 <PovAddict> now if I could send infrared signals from my computer
12:20 <PovAddict> I could write a script to turn on my air conditioner if it's too cold
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14:06 <jackygrahamez> hi PovAddict
14:07 <hawmps> spork >> 184.108.40.206
14:08 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to figure out how to pass the string from main function to the application path
14:08 <jackygrahamez> I'm a bad programmer
14:11 <avis> PovAddict, its not unreasonable for me to expect privacy when i'm donating cpu cycles and electricity to greater causes
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14:36 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to do this
14:36 <jackygrahamez> int TASK::run(int argct, char** argvt, char strPythonExe)
14:37 <jackygrahamez> but I get this
14:37 <jackygrahamez> error C2511: 'int TASK::run(int,char **,char)' : overloaded member function not found in 'TASK'
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14:37 <jackygrahamez> I also tried using strPythonExe as a global
14:37 <jackygrahamez> did not like that
15:11 <jackygrahamez> ah I think I figured out how to pass it now
15:44 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news June 16, 2008
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15:58 <xcamel> re-hi
16:00 <jackygrahamez> any c++ programmers here?
16:01 <jackygrahamez> I think I almost figured this thing out. I just need to find and replace the forward slashes in a string
16:01 <PovAddict> a std::string or a char*?
16:02 <jackygrahamez> char strPythonExe[_MAX_PATH];
16:03 <jackygrahamez> char 
16:03 <PovAddict> wait, where will that string be used?
16:03 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to use this example
16:03 <jackygrahamez> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/string/string/find.html
16:03 <PovAddict> usually forward slashes work everywhere
16:03 <jackygrahamez> really
16:03 <PovAddict> string.find won't work for a char array
16:04 <jackygrahamez> currently it generates this C:\Program Files\BOINC/projects/hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe
16:04 <jackygrahamez> and it fails to execute
16:04 <jackygrahamez> I don't know if i'm passing it wrong
16:05 <jackygrahamez> its confusing how some slashes are forward and others a backwards
16:07 <jackygrahamez> This is where I pass it
16:07 <jackygrahamez> retval = task.run(argc, argv, strPythonExe);
16:07 <jackygrahamez> I redefined struct TASK
16:07 <PovAddict> www.pastebin.ca put your whole source there
16:07 <jackygrahamez> int run(int argc, char** argv, char );
16:07 <jackygrahamez> ok
16:12 <jackygrahamez> Says my proxy has abused it
16:12 <PovAddict> www.pastebin.com
16:15 <jackygrahamez> done
16:16 <jackygrahamez> I just checked, this source works for standard applications, but trying to resolved this concactenated path ahh not so much
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16:20 <jackygrahamez> can't run app: -148
16:20 <PovAddict> the extra parameter you're passing to run() is completely ignored
16:20 <PovAddict> since it doesn't even have a name, there is no way for the function to use it
16:21 <jackygrahamez> ahh I tried giving it a name and it gave me issues compiling
16:23 <PovAddict> is your app Windows-only?
16:23 <PovAddict> you're using python.exe so I figured it was
16:23 <jackygrahamez> no but I thought I would make it windows specific for now
16:24 <jackygrahamez> will it work if we take of the .exe?
16:24 <PovAddict> then I can simplify and hardcode the backslash
16:24 <PovAddict> instead of that pathdelim thing
16:25 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 1048664 (at pastebin.ca)
16:25 <PovAddict> disclaimer: I don't even know if that *compiles*
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16:26 <jackygrahamez> 403 - 220.127.116.11 - Forbidden
16:26 <MTughan> Yeah, static server's down again.
16:26 <jackygrahamez> that darn server won't let me in
16:26 <MTughan> Got it...
16:27 <PovAddict> MTughan: jackygrahamez's proxy or something is being blocked by pastebin.ca
16:27 <MTughan> Is being blocked by pastebin, or it's blocked him from pastebin?
16:27 <PovAddict> no idea
16:28 <jackygrahamez> Sorry, your request has been denied due to abuse from your address (or because of a shared proxy which was abused, and I apologize for being wrong about that). Access will be permitted in 1 hour 33 mins.
16:28 <jackygrahamez> Sorry, your request has been denied due to abuse from your address (or because of a shared proxy which was abused, and I apologize for being wrong about that). Access will be permitted in 1 hour 33 mins.
16:28 <jackygrahamez> weird :-)
16:30 <jackygrahamez> ahh so you used this as the conditional application == "python"
16:30 <PovAddict> yes, C++ string class can be compared with just ==
16:32 <jackygrahamez> error C2110: '+' : cannot add two pointers
16:33 <PovAddict> ugh, project_dir is a char*?
16:34 <jackygrahamez> yup
16:34 <jackygrahamez> wait
16:35 <jackygrahamez> char
16:35 <PovAddict> try this: app_path = string(myBOINCData.project_dir) + "\\python2.5\\python.exe";
16:36 <jackygrahamez> got it
16:38 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running C:\Program Files\BOINC/projects/hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe (../../projects/hydrogenathome.org/AutoDockTools/AutoDockTools/Utilities24/prepare_ligand4.py -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)
16:38 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0x2
16:38 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish
16:38 <jackygrahamez> dang
16:43 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1048665 (at pastebin.ca)
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16:54 <CoderForLife> home again
16:55 <MTughan> 'lo CFL
16:55 <CoderForLife> hello Michael
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17:03 <jackygrahamez> of course I can't open this pastebin dang it
17:03 <Romulus> Title: yoyo private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at yoyo.pastebin.com)
17:04 <MTughan> One second jacky.
17:04 <PovAddict> ah forgot
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17:09 <xcamel> some pretty snotty storms going by...
17:14 <jackygrahamez> me too
17:14 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001
17:14 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 70.5°F / 21.4°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely this evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with large hail and damaging winds this evening. Lows (1 more message)
17:17 <jackygrahamez> still having trouble here
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: 1.000000
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Can't set up shared mem: -1
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Will run in standalone mode.
17:17 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: starting
17:17 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe (../../projects/hydrogenathome.org/AutoDockTools/AutoDockTools/Utilities24/prepare_ligand4.py -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)
17:17 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0x2
17:17 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish
17:17 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period
17:18 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: 1.000000
17:18 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period
17:18 <jackygrahamez> Can't set up shared mem: -1
17:18 <jackygrahamez> Will run in standalone mode.
17:18 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: starting
17:18 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe (..\..\projects\hydrogenathome.org\AutoDockTools\AutoDockTools\Utilities24\prepare_ligand4.py -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)
17:18 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0x2
17:18 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish
17:18 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period
17:18 <jackygrahamez> I tried the command line two ways
17:18 <jackygrahamez> forward slash and back slash
17:20 <CoderForLife> expecting the homeowner's association rep in the next 45 minutes or so to come look at my "problem" and approve the plan
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17:26 <jackygrahamez> Once I figure how to get this working, I also have to figure out how to resolve the path for the actually python scripts
17:27 <jackygrahamez> Thanks for your help so far though
17:37 <xcamel> 'lo Don
17:39 <CoderForLife> hello Jay
17:39 <CoderForLife> I have the vultures starting to circle
17:40 <CoderForLife> bbl
17:40 <xcamel> um... ok.
17:41 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 June 16 - Inside the Coma Cluster of Galaxies (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
17:41 <xcamel> nice..
17:52 <jackygrahamez> ah I got an idea based on my stderr
17:52 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr
17:52 <jackygrahamez> C:\Program: can't open file 'Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\Python25\py
17:52 <jackygrahamez> thon.exe': [Errno 2] No such file or directory
17:52 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr
17:52 *** surreal[work] is now known as surreal
17:52 <surreal> nick surrealillusion
17:53 *** surreal is now known as surrealillusion
17:53 <MTughan> Yep, need the slash... :P
17:53 <PovAddict> ahaa, spaces
17:53 <surrealillusion> hmm my new Q6600 cruncher seeems to be slower
17:53 <surrealillusion> than it's xp counter-part
17:53 <surrealillusion> 2 hrs per s@h wu
17:53 <surrealillusion> wtf\
17:54 <Soul_keeper> optimize your stuff
17:55 <surrealillusion> yeah i'm gonna see if there's a 64bit version of the alex AK8 app
17:56 <Soul_keeper> first off recompile the kernel for a c2d, then go to http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads and get the latest optimized app
17:57 <MTughan> C2D even though it's a C2Q?
17:57 <surrealillusion> hmm i think my kernel is already optimized for C2D/C2Q
17:57 <PovAddict> sure, no diff...
17:57 <Soul_keeper> well those are all "intel"
17:57 <PovAddict> surrealillusion: get a seti app optimized for those
17:57 <surrealillusion> PovAddict, looking at the alex ak v8 port
17:58 <Soul_keeper> they are compiled with the intel compiler and optimized for intel cpu's
17:58 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: I hate Windows API, particularly CreateProcess <.<
17:59 <Soul_keeper> that site i linked is Alex Kan's code apparently
17:59 <Soul_keeper> not too sure who is who of the optimized app feild, but i havn't found any better
18:00 <surrealillusion> i'm running the ak v8 optimized app on my xp pro gaming system
18:00 <surrealillusion> 4400 rac so far
18:00 <surrealillusion> and still climbing
18:01 <Soul_keeper> apparently the linux ones are the exact same code, just hacked/compiled for linux by someone that goes by the nick "Crunch3r"
18:02 <MTughan> Oh, not him...
18:02 <MTughan> Arrogant little idiot...
18:02 <Romulus> Title: Crunch3rs BOINC page (at calbe.dw70.de)
18:02 <Soul_keeper> lol
18:04 <jackygrahamez> ah no go I'm afraid
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18:05 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr.txt
18:05 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period
18:05 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: 1.000000
18:05 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period
18:05 <jackygrahamez> Can't set up shared mem: -1
18:05 <jackygrahamez> Will run in standalone mode.
18:05 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: starting
18:05 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running "C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\Python25\py
18:05 <jackygrahamez> thon.exe" (../../projects/hydrogenathome.org/AutoDockTools/AutoDockTools/Utiliti
18:05 <jackygrahamez> es24/prepare_ligand4.py -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)
18:05 <jackygrahamez> can't run app: -148
18:05 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish
18:05 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr.txt
18:06 <surrealillusion> ok done
18:06 <surrealillusion> we'll see if this provides any improvement tonight
18:06 <jackygrahamez> probably will be easier on other platforms
18:07 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1048678 (at pastebin.ca)
18:07 <PovAddict> &boincerr -148
18:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: exec() failed
18:08 <MTughan> I think we have to avoid pastebin.ca for a bit... So slow.
18:08 <Soul_keeper> surrealillusion, i havn't tryed the new ones yet, i'll hafta give them a run on my two 2cd systems
18:08 <jackygrahamez> They don't like me
18:08 <surrealillusion> i found the ak made a good improvement
18:08 <surrealillusion> now im just waiting for some rebates to come back
18:08 <surrealillusion> and to sell this sonata II case
18:08 <PovAddict> MTughan: fine, I'll upload it somewhere else
18:08 <surrealillusion> once i get the power supply rma'd
18:09 <MTughan> Uh... Okay...
18:09 <MTughan> No, I got it up.
18:09 <surrealillusion> then i'm gonna build a vista home premium pvr
18:09 <surrealillusion> with a Q6600
18:09 <surrealillusion> lol
18:09 <Soul_keeper> i'm running 2.4_Linux32_kernel_2.6_Intel_SSE3_FIXED.tar.bz2 now
18:09 <MTughan> Isn't that a little excessive?
18:09 <surrealillusion> MTughan: for a pvr?
18:09 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: You're running a bunzip?
18:09 <surrealillusion> or a cruncher ;)
18:09 <MTughan> PVR alone.
18:09 <surrealillusion> pvr/cruncher
18:10 <surrealillusion> haha
18:10 <MTughan> All encoding is done on the tuner card.
18:10 <PovAddict> :P
18:10 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, no i'm running a copy/paste :)
18:10 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #183660 (at qdb.us)
18:10 <MTughan> So... many... flashes...
18:10 <surrealillusion> q9450 would be a bit excessive
18:10 <surrealillusion> for a pvr
18:10 <surrealillusion> mmm 12meg cache
18:10 <MTughan> Why?
18:10 <surrealillusion> i could just o/c this 2140 i have sitting here
18:11 <MTughan> If you're already running a Q6600, what's the diff in going to a Q9450?
18:11 <xcamel> 'lo Mike
18:11 <surrealillusion> lower TDP
18:11 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
18:11 <surrealillusion> less heat
18:11 <surrealillusion> more cache
18:11 <Soul_keeper> i checked prices yesterday and the c2q with 12MB runs about 250 bucks
18:11 <MTughan> Yeah, but why would it be excessive?
18:11 <surrealillusion> MTughan, an extra $150
18:11 <Soul_keeper> 275 for the xeon version
18:11 <surrealillusion> right now
18:11 <MTughan> Damn... Q6600 costs that. :(
18:11 <surrealillusion> wow $250? USD?
18:11 <Soul_keeper> yeah on newegg
18:11 <surrealillusion> we're still at $350 CDN
18:12 <surrealillusion> for a 9450
18:12 <MTughan> I can get a Q6600 for $230... And a Q9450 for ~$400.
18:12 <surrealillusion> pcvillage had a sale a while back
18:12 <surrealillusion> q6600 for $199
18:12 <MTughan> I think... Let me check.
18:12 <surrealillusion> same thing with Fry's in the states
18:12 <surrealillusion> and Microcenter
18:12 <MTughan> PCVillage is a bit far from here, Markham.
18:12 <Soul_keeper> the E5410 hapertown @ 2.33GHz is 275
18:13 <surrealillusion> ooh i can already see a difference in crunching time
18:13 <surrealillusion> exciting
18:13 <surrealillusion> i still have to add in the other two hard drives in here ...
18:13 <surrealillusion> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
18:13 <surrealillusion> /dev/sda3 480183156 5171408 450619860 2% /
18:13 <surrealillusion> udev 10240 176 10064 2% /dev
18:13 <surrealillusion> shm 1030620 0 1030620 0% /dev/shm
18:14 <MTughan> surrealillusion: In the GTA?
18:14 <PovAddict> surrealillusion: use -h switch
18:14 <surrealillusion> my bad
18:14 <surrealillusion> MTughan: what in the gta?
18:14 <MTughan> Are you in the GTA?
18:14 <surrealillusion> used to
18:14 <surrealillusion> live around greektown
18:14 <surrealillusion> I'm in Ottawa now
18:14 <surrealillusion> U of T Scarghetto
18:14 <MTughan> Is there a PCVillage in Ottawa?
18:14 <surrealillusion> nope
18:15 <MTughan> lol...
18:15 <surrealillusion> but I pm with a local shop
18:15 <surrealillusion> lol
18:15 <surrealillusion> gotta love competition
18:15 <MTughan> Never heard that one before, Scarghetto.
18:15 <MTughan> I presume you're referring to Scarborough?
18:15 <surrealillusion> yup
18:15 <surrealillusion> Morningside
18:15 <surrealillusion> south of the 401
18:15 <MTughan> And the Q9450 is still $390 here, $300 for the Q9300.
18:15 * surrealillusion fills out his rebate forms
18:16 <surrealillusion> $350
18:16 <surrealillusion> umm
18:16 <MTughan> $230 for the Q6600.
18:16 <surrealillusion> check www.infonec.ca
18:16 <surrealillusion> and pcvonline should have the q6600 for $219
18:16 <MTughan> I never found Infonec had great stock.
18:16 <surrealillusion> same with directcanada
18:16 <surrealillusion> i just bought my BFG 9600GT from them
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18:17 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1048678 (at pastebin.ca)
18:18 <jackygrahamez> scratch that
18:18 <MTughan> That was a quote for me.
18:18 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: no, just ##c++ idiots being idiots :)
18:18 <MTughan> Oh, I didn't know PCVillage had a location in Vaughan... That's about 5-10 minutes from my school.
18:19 <jackygrahamez> Well I'm at least in pastebin.ca now
18:19 <surrealillusion> probably just opened not too long ago
18:19 <jackygrahamez> what does PC stand for?
18:19 <surrealillusion> canada computers has a lot of stores now
18:19 <surrealillusion> personal computer?
18:19 <MTughan> That's where I'm looking and usually go.
18:19 <surrealillusion> progressive conservative
18:19 <jackygrahamez> oh a computer store
18:20 <surrealillusion> pompus cockface
18:20 <jackygrahamez> porn collection
18:20 <surrealillusion> pc means a lot of things
18:20 <surrealillusion> =]
18:20 <surrealillusion> MTughan: yeah sometimes CC has decent prices
18:20 <surrealillusion> but i find NCIX has pretty good deals every so often too
18:20 <MTughan> They almost always beat TigerDirect, who advertise that they can beat anyone... xD
18:20 <surrealillusion> if you don't mind having your stuff shipped
18:20 <MTughan> Yeah, that's the crux of it...
18:21 <PovAddict> Player Character
18:21 <Romulus> Title: Buy Computer Parts, Computer Hardware, PC Parts at Best Online Computer Shop - DirectCanada (at www.directcanada.com)
18:21 <surrealillusion> $215.88 + $9.99 air shipping ... and only 1 tax
18:22 <MTughan> 1% tax?
18:22 <surrealillusion> 7%
18:22 <surrealillusion> =P
18:22 <surrealillusion> but better than 13%
18:22 <MTughan> Ah... What is that?
18:22 <MTughan> It's not GST.
18:22 <surrealillusion> and works out to be a better deal if you order a bunch of stuff
18:22 <surrealillusion> oh wait 5%
18:23 <surrealillusion> i'm still stuck in 2006
18:23 <MTughan> Okay, so just GST then.
18:23 <surrealillusion> yup
18:23 <jackygrahamez> I should probably call it a night and ride home in the drizzle
18:23 <MTughan> Heh... Yes, the Conservatives are in.
18:23 <surrealillusion> the sun is out here
18:23 <surrealillusion> gonna go test out my tires again later
18:23 <surrealillusion> and burn gas @ $1.50
18:23 <surrealillusion> -_-
18:23 <jackygrahamez> any ideas on that exec failure though?
18:23 <MTughan> Yay... We're still down at ~$1.3 here. :D
18:23 <PovAddict> nope, out of ideas by now
18:24 <surrealillusion> MTughan: do you fill up with 91 Octane?
18:24 <MTughan> 87.
18:24 <jackygrahamez> ok thanks for the help
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18:24 <MTughan> With a Nissan Sentra and a Dodge Caravan, no need for 91 octane.
18:24 <surrealillusion> exactly
18:24 <surrealillusion> hah
18:25 <surrealillusion> 11.5:1 compression in a v4
18:25 <MTughan> What do you drive then?
18:25 <surrealillusion> 07 csx type-s
18:25 <MTughan> Acura?
18:25 <surrealillusion> it just asks to be driven hard
18:25 <surrealillusion> yup
18:25 <MTughan> Ah...
18:25 <surrealillusion> which means i get to watch the tank disappear into vapours
18:25 <surrealillusion> i had a loaner for the weekend
18:25 <surrealillusion> regular csx
18:25 <surrealillusion> 550km's to the tank
18:25 <surrealillusion> compared to my 420kms to a tank
18:25 <MTughan> One thing I notice that I can get at Canada Computers that's not at DirectCanada is the P182SE case.
18:25 <surrealillusion> made me almost cry
18:26 <surrealillusion> i was thinkin of the P180/182
18:26 <surrealillusion> and even the titan650
18:26 <surrealillusion> but i settled on the nine hundred for my gaming rig
18:26 <MTughan> No, this is the P182 Special Edition...
18:26 <surrealillusion> and the three hundred
18:26 <surrealillusion> for my file server
18:26 <MTughan> What do you think of mirror sides? xD
18:26 <surrealillusion> tossed some extra antec blue led fans into the three hundred
18:26 <surrealillusion> MTughan: I had two Sonata cases
18:26 <surrealillusion> i hated the smudges
18:27 <MTughan> Seriously though, I'm looking for good gaming performance with almost silent operation.
18:27 <MTughan> Dinner time though... We can discuss later.
18:27 <surrealillusion> werd
18:27 <surrealillusion> enjoy
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18:44 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
18:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 74.6°F / 23.7°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph in the evening.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 70s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. (1 more message)
18:44 <wdsmia> &more
18:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 10:00 PM CDT on June 20, 2008;
18:48 <xcamel> still above water Doug?
18:48 <wdsmia> so far so good
18:48 <xcamel> I was beginning to wonder..
18:49 <xcamel> and 'lucky you'
18:49 <wdsmia> lol
18:50 <wdsmia> we got lucky
18:50 <wdsmia> all it would have taken was one fish fart to over top the leeve
18:51 <xcamel> that break was east/south of you?
18:52 <CoderForLife> back
18:52 <wdsmia> north east on me
18:52 <wdsmia> err of
18:52 <xcamel> ah..
18:52 <CoderForLife> HOA guy just left
18:52 <xcamel> big storms here... all went south of me...
18:52 <CoderForLife> he was appalled
18:52 <wdsmia> I live in West Des Moines... I know better than to live around there
18:52 <xcamel> I bet... first visit?
18:53 <CoderForLife> he's going to bring out more HOA people to see it
18:53 <CoderForLife> yes first time
18:53 <xcamel> about damned time...
18:53 <CoderForLife> he wants to grin the president of the HOA, a board member who owns a construction company, and an attorney
18:53 <CoderForLife> grin -> bring
18:54 <CoderForLife> the attorney had a sinkhole in his backyard from construction debris
18:54 <CoderForLife> he sued the home builder on his own time, and won $150,000
18:55 <CoderForLife> so there's precedent in the neighborhood with this builder
18:56 <CoderForLife> the HOA guy's house is situated like mine, and he's now sweating bullets
18:56 <CoderForLife> he's even talking how the HOA could help financially
18:56 <CoderForLife> I don't expect that would get much traction
18:57 <CoderForLife> I'll be hosting a few more visits this week, it looks like, but it's good to see the HOA stepping up
18:57 <CoderForLife> well, enough about that
18:57 <wdsmia> maybe the Attorney will take it on pro bono LOL
18:58 <CoderForLife> hope springs external
18:58 <CoderForLife> I'd hate to spend the wall money on an attorney, and lose
18:59 <CoderForLife> no money and now all
18:59 <CoderForLife> no wall
18:59 <CoderForLife> did your cold start go well wdsmia?
19:00 <wdsmia> about how I expected
19:01 <wdsmia> some good some bad and some just strange
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19:07 <wdsmia> san and orical came back with no problems still some proplems with the data excange server and gray scale matcher
19:08 <wdsmia> err Oracle
19:09 <wdsmia> tired fingers and brain
19:09 <CoderForLife> I bet
19:09 <CoderForLife> you a one-man show, or did you have some help?
19:10 <xcamel> cfl - did you catch the WSJ story on Lufthansa and their vintage planes?
19:10 <CoderForLife> no
19:11 <CoderForLife> today's WSJ?
19:11 <wdsmia> help lots of it... would have lost less data if they would have stayed the hell away
19:11 <xcamel> yes
19:11 <CoderForLife> lol wdsmia - I was wondering along those lines - too many cooks in the kitchen
19:12 <xcamel> they have a super connie, and a junkers that they maintain and fly
19:12 <CoderForLife> I have the print edition downstairs - I'll look at it in a bit
19:12 <wdsmia> yep so next few weeks double checking and recovery
19:13 <xcamel> how did your emergency systems hold up?
19:15 <wdsmia> main site fine I still may have some equipment at the remotes filtering water though the cpu fans
19:17 <wdsmia> 2 sites I know are under water and havent been able to contact anyone to see if they moved the equipment before...
19:21 <PovAddict> yay, whole country politically on fire
19:22 <CoderForLife> USA 1968?
19:26 <wdsmia> 68 was a strange year... remember moving back to the USA in the middle of it
19:27 <Romulus> Title: TN.com.ar (at www.tn.com.ar)
19:29 <CoderForLife> quick, buy stock in pots and pans
19:29 * KathrynM is back (gone 11:10:18)
19:29 <CoderForLife> .. and flags ..
19:29 <wdsmia> *lo Kathryn
19:30 <KathrynM> mornin all
19:30 <CoderForLife> ..and school teachers in Korea..
19:30 <xcamel> and ammo...
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19:30 <xcamel> or lawyers..
19:30 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
19:30 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan
19:30 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 62Â°F / 17Â°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Partly Cloudy. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Overcast. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Rain. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.;
19:31 <xcamel> lol - 62F and 87% humidity here...
19:31 <CoderForLife> .. and Spanish dictionaries ..
19:31 <CoderForLife> .. fast ones ..
19:31 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
19:31 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 74.7°F / 23.7°C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph in the evening.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 70s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. (1 more message)
19:31 <efc> moo X
19:32 <wdsmia> &more
19:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 10:00 PM CDT on June 20, 2008;
19:32 <efc> You would have enjoyed our 82 strikes/min and 3-5 inches rain in a few hours last night
19:32 <CoderForLife> looks like Times Square on New Years Eve, PovAddict
19:33 <PovAddict> *maybe* the last paragraphs explain some of the recent mess
19:34 <PovAddict> there have been foreign journalists calling "important" argentine journalists to ask what the hell was going on because nobody understood it
19:35 <CoderForLife> that's a somewhat rough English translation
19:35 <CoderForLife> "aliments"??
19:36 <PovAddict> what the... lol
19:36 <CoderForLife> alimentary canal is your mouth, throat and stomach
19:36 <Soul_keeper> bla
19:36 <xcamel> we were up near 200 strikes earlier..
19:40 <PovAddict> I fixed a few words there
19:41 <xcamel> in a nutshell?
19:41 <PovAddict> xcamel: I'm not sure if *I* understand enough of what's going on to make a proper summary...
19:43 <CoderForLife> I'll refresh - I think the closest to "aliments" would be "foodstuffs"
19:43 <CoderForLife> yeah - you caught commercialization
19:45 <PovAddict> google translate dictionary didn't recognize "comercializaciÃ³n" at all...
19:45 <PovAddict> ugh, things literally on fire (again)
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19:46 <jackygrahamez__> hi
19:46 <jackygrahamez__> lucky I missed the rain
19:46 <PovAddict> (fields)
19:46 <jackygrahamez__> &wx 20001
19:46 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Temperature: 69.6°F / 20.9°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Highs (1 more message)
19:48 <jackygrahamez__> looks like we are going to shut down Gitmo
19:48 <CoderForLife> Club Gitmo
19:49 <xcamel> sure... gimme a club.... (and make it a big one)
19:49 <jackygrahamez__> you can check right in...
19:50 <jackygrahamez__> but you aint neeever leave
19:50 <efc> Welcome to the Hotel Cali, err, nevermind
19:55 <xcamel> that sounds more like DC..
19:56 <efc> Is there some way to convince Boinc to give me more than 3 hours of S@H work? I've fiddled with the account settings and they seem to have no effect
19:56 <efc> "Computer is connected to the Internet about every " and "Maintain enough work for an additional "
20:02 <efc> a-ha, there's a log msg that says "won't finish in time, computer on 100% of time, boinc on 0% of that
20:05 <efc> Boinc is on more than 0% of the time..
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20:15 <xcamel> looks like a couple more small storms headed this way...
20:15 <xcamel> the hudson valley got hammered... second time in a week..
20:16 <efc> edited client_state.xml directly, seemed to have worked
20:17 <CoderForLife> I'm going to crawl away
20:17 <CoderForLife> cya folks
20:17 <xcamel> or slither?
20:17 <xcamel> :-0
20:18 <CoderForLife> more like go into a fetal position
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20:18 <xcamel> laterz..
20:18 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146793 this memory has me druling
20:19 <KathrynM> I'm off to sing stupid children's songs
20:19 * KathrynM sighs
20:19 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...
20:21 <efc> Doesn't seem like that much for 4 gigs
20:21 <xcamel> have fun..
20:21 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Those are odd heatspreaders for Mushkin...
20:21 <Soul_keeper> 30% off for the rebate
20:22 <Soul_keeper> my last two memory purchases have been mushkin, they treat me well
20:22 <MTughan> Yeah, but that's not Mushkin
20:22 <MTughan> ..'s usual heatspreader.
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20:22 <MTughan> http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=013419&cid=RAM.346.307 (Ignore the price)
20:23 <MTughan> The only difference between the two is the Newegg's are 4-4-4-12 timings while the CC's are 4-3-3-10 timings.
20:24 <MTughan> Frankly, why these aren't more expensive is a question to me... http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018351&cid=RAM.346.754
20:24 <MTughan> DDR2-1066 compared to DDR2-800, and 5-5-5-15 timings compared to 4-3-3-10 timings. But I'm getting off track...
20:26 <Romulus> Title: Ascent - Revolutionary eVCI Technology has Arrived (at www.mushkin.com)
20:26 <MTughan> I don't remember that being on their site just a few days, so shows how fast Newegg is...
20:27 <MTughan> &monologue
20:27 <Romulus> MTughan: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.
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20:29 <MTughan> I'd probably hold off until I see how efficient the cooler is, but that's me...
20:33 <xcamel> you need an endothermic reactor...
20:36 <Soul_keeper> :)
20:37 <Soul_keeper> i had a guest
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20:40 <Soul_keeper> so for just over 200 bucks i could max out my board with high quality mem
20:41 <Soul_keeper> lol i payed 380 bucks for 1GB of ddr1 back when i got that, now 8GB is like half that price
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21:15 <surrealillusion> power outages are ghey
21:15 <surrealillusion> to the max.
21:42 <xcamel> and dark.
21:52 <xcamel> laterz..
21:54 <quail> morning all, how are we all?
22:01 <surrealillusion> burnt out.
22:01 <surrealillusion> and it's only monday
22:03 <PovAddict> it was a holiday here
22:03 <PovAddict> but tomorrow... w#$%
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22:05 <Soul_keeper> just forked out 465 bucks for my carb :(
22:07 <Soul_keeper> coulda got a quad core and 2GB of mem for that ...
22:07 <Soul_keeper> 4~
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22:11 <surrealillusion> carb?
22:11 <surrealillusion> car?
22:12 <surrealillusion> and yeah that would have been a q6600 and 4 gigs of ram here
22:12 <surrealillusion> or just a q9450
22:18 <Soul_keeper> carburetor
22:18 <Soul_keeper> i already payed 300 for the aftermarket carb 5 months ago, but it's not smog legal
22:18 <Soul_keeper> so that'd basically be a top end vid card or something
22:19 <surrealillusion> ouch
22:45 <Soul_keeper> ohhh no, cpu just hit 70c and climbing, i'm sweating bullets now
22:45 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
22:45 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 69.4°F / 20.8°C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 59 to 68. Light winds.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 81 to 86 in the western (1 more message)
22:45 <Soul_keeper> wrong !!!
22:47 <surrealillusion> wow how warm is it where you are?
22:47 <surrealillusion> my core 0 hit a high of 54C
22:47 <PovAddict> 20C? that's nothing
22:47 <Soul_keeper> my entire forehead is covered in sweat and my shirt is wet, it ain't 69f
22:47 <surrealillusion> wth
22:48 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires
22:48 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 50Â°F / 10Â°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ART; Clear. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Clear. Low:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.; Clear. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Clear. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Clear. High:57 ° F. / 14 ° C.; Overcast. Low:46 ° F. / 8 ° C.;
22:48 <Soul_keeper> guess it's just "indoor heat"
22:48 * Soul_keeper opens some doors/windows
22:48 <surrealillusion> &weather ottawa
22:48 <Romulus> surrealillusion: Temperature: 61Â°F / 16Â°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EDT; Tonight - A few showers with thunderstorms ending this evening then cloudy periods. Low 11C(52F).; Tuesday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 percent chance of showers late in the morning and in the afternoon with the risk of (1 more message)
22:48 <PovAddict> time to go get into bed I guess
22:49 <surrealillusion> 16C outside heh
22:50 <MTughan> &weather Brampton
22:50 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 63Â°F / 17Â°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers this evening. Risk of a thunderstorm. Clearing near midnight. Low 9C(48F).; Tuesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Becoming cloudy with sunny periods in the afternoon with 40 (1 more message)
22:50 <MTughan> Ouch on the humidity...
22:50 <PovAddict> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature
22:50 <PovAddict> temperature: 19 C
22:50 <PovAddict> pretty accurate I guess
22:51 <PovAddict> my desk thermometer broke so I'm using mobo temperature as replacement :P
22:51 <Soul_keeper> temperature: 68 C
22:51 <PovAddict> wth
22:51 <Soul_keeper> wth ?
22:51 <PovAddict> I guess mine is measuring mobo and yours CPU
22:52 <Soul_keeper> yeah probably the nb temp
22:52 <PovAddict> or
22:52 <surrealillusion> my sys temp is 35C
22:52 <PovAddict> it's actually not C
22:52 <surrealillusion> and my cpu temp says 29C
22:52 <Soul_keeper> my sys is 36c i got really good cooling on it tho
22:52 <PovAddict> surrealillusion: watercooling?
22:52 <Soul_keeper> my psu temp is a staggering 54
22:52 <surrealillusion> nope
22:52 <surrealillusion> air cooled
22:52 <surrealillusion> =]
22:53 <surrealillusion> antec three hundred case
22:53 <PovAddict> no way your CPU is at 29C
22:53 <surrealillusion> 3 x120 antec fans
22:53 <surrealillusion> 1 x 140 antec fan
22:53 <surrealillusion> core temps are at 48C-46C
22:53 <surrealillusion> Q6600 OC'd to 3ghz
22:53 <PovAddict> 46C sounds more like it
22:53 <surrealillusion> with a stock intel hsf i'd be running closer to 60-65
22:53 <surrealillusion> in my old case
22:53 <surrealillusion> *shudder*
22:54 <MTughan> What are you using for a cooler?
22:54 <surrealillusion> ocz Vendetta2
22:54 <surrealillusion> since I can't get the xigmatek 2183
22:54 <surrealillusion> no shop in Ottawa carries them
22:54 <MTughan> We'll have to see how it compares to a Zalman 9500 when I get a Q6600...
22:55 <surrealillusion> www.frostytech.com
22:55 <Soul_keeper> Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme here
22:55 <MTughan> Stable at 60C at full load with a S478 P4 Prescott OC'd to 3.2GHz.
22:55 <MTughan> And this sucker is hot...
22:55 <PovAddict> bed ->
22:55 <MTughan> Bye.
22:56 <surrealillusion> g'nite
22:56 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, sell it
22:57 <Soul_keeper> P4's are worthless now
22:57 <Soul_keeper> lol
22:57 <MTughan> I thought you meant the cooler...
22:57 <MTughan> There's not a whole lot I can do about it until I get a new core comp though.
22:59 <surrealillusion> i still got one more mobo to pair a CPU with
22:59 <surrealillusion> and it's the asus p5k-vm hdmi
23:00 <Soul_keeper> not bad
23:00 <MTughan> So on the high settings, the Vendetta2 is about 10db quieter than the 9500...
23:01 <Soul_keeper> i have a p5l-mx for my heatless box
23:01 <MTughan> Wow, the 9700 is even louder...
23:01 <MTughan> I have to consider this, as I'm going to be OC'ing and am going for a very quiet computer too...
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23:02 <MTughan> Problem is I'm speccing this out for a grad/birthday gift, so I can't push the price sky high.
23:02 <MTughan> Already just under $900 for a new CPU, MB, RAM, and GPU.
23:02 <Soul_keeper> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=194&l4=0&model=1320&modelmenu=1 same thing you got just older chipset
23:02 <surrealillusion> heh i did
23:02 <surrealillusion> but tried to save money where i could
23:03 <surrealillusion> i spent probably a grand in a last month
23:03 <Soul_keeper> i have a zalman cooler on that board, whisper quiet
23:03 <surrealillusion> but got two new pc's out of it
23:03 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I have a P4C800-E Deluxe if that helps.
23:03 <Soul_keeper> i have an abit ip35-e in my main system
23:04 <MTughan> I plan to be keeping this computer for 4-5 years because I'm going to university (Carleton ;) ) and gonna be cash strapped. Want something to last.
23:04 <surrealillusion> i've got a asus p5k-deluxe wifi for my gaming board, an asus p5w-dh deluxe for my linux file server (which I'm xchatting on)
23:05 <MTughan> Looking at an Asus P5E. X38 chipset.
23:05 <Soul_keeper> that's ddr3 right ?
23:05 <surrealillusion> p5e3
23:05 <surrealillusion> is ddr3
23:05 <MTughan> DDR2.
23:05 <surrealillusion> i think
23:06 <surrealillusion> i heard the performance increase isn't worth the money for the ram
23:06 <Soul_keeper> i'm concerned that all the 775 boards out are gonna have a limited upgrade path, something tells me 8 core chips won't work in them
23:06 <MTughan> No, it's not. That's why I'm want Mushkin DDR2 Redline PC2-8000 RAM.
23:06 <Soul_keeper> lol
23:07 <MTughan> I hope not... That would mean the second time I'd have bought a computer just before the CPU technology was outdated...
23:07 <Soul_keeper> the redline series is overpriced imo, the slower stuff will oc to that level easily
23:07 <MTughan> Bought this probably about 2 months before 775 came in.
23:07 <MTughan> I compared it to XP2-1066. OC'd to a higher level with less voltage and tighter timings.
23:07 <Soul_keeper> intel is about to release the x48 chipset or whatever
23:07 <MTughan> And cheaper than the XP2-1066.
23:08 <MTughan> X48's already out...
23:08 <Soul_keeper> did they say it will support 8 cores ?
23:08 <MTughan> This is what I'm looking at: http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016083&cid=MB.157
23:08 <MTughan> No idea. I just know I've seen Asus MBs with X48 chipsets.
23:09 <Soul_keeper> that site don't carry abit motherboards hmmm
23:10 <MTughan> Is Abit good quality?
23:10 <surrealillusion> mmm Abit BP6
23:10 <surrealillusion> between that an the CUV4X-DLS
23:11 <surrealillusion> best dual P3 boards
23:11 <surrealillusion> i miss the day of old school smp
23:11 <MTughan> What about Skulltrail? Dual quad-core Xeons.
23:12 <surrealillusion> mmm 8 core procesing
23:12 <surrealillusion> ive seen some of those macs with 8 cores
23:12 <surrealillusion> pretty sick
23:13 <MTughan> Yeah, those are the same setup.
23:13 <MTughan> Maybe different specific processors, but still dual quad-core Xeons.
23:13 <Soul_keeper> i've had better experience with abit than asus
23:13 <Soul_keeper> both good tho
23:17 <MTughan> Looking over a review for the Xigmatek HDT-S1283, which I believe it said that the Vendetta2 was based on. Very good performance, with 35dB. Should be possible to replace that with an even quiter fan...
23:18 <MTughan> Just 20C over ambient with a 150W load.
23:19 <surrealillusion> not bad
23:19 <Soul_keeper> i like thermalright heatsinks, they can be hard to find in stock at places sometimes tho
23:19 <MTughan> Yeah. The site there carries Thermaltake but not Thermalright.
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23:20 <surrealillusion> whoo
23:20 <MTughan> Anyway, with that kind of performance for only $35, that's pretty darn good.
23:20 <surrealillusion> just broke the 200k mark in seti
23:20 <MTughan> I think it's a little heavier than the 9500, but only by 15-25g.
23:20 <MTughan> Congrats... I think I'm working on 130K on E@H.
23:21 <MTughan> With just a P4 and a Core Duo though, I consider that pretty good.
23:21 <surrealillusion> i managed most of the 200k with a q6600 and a be2350
23:21 <MTughan> And just the P4 crunching right now.
23:21 <wdsmia_> 10,390,194.26
23:22 <MTughan> Looks like I broke the 125K mark in Einstein today actually...
23:22 <MTughan> Nope, yesterday.
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23:22 <MTughan> 'lo Doug
23:23 <Soul_keeper> 158k for einstein here 486k for seti 366k for wcg
23:23 <wdsmia> *lo Michael
23:25 <Soul_keeper> you got 10x the total credit i do
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23:27 <wdsmia> in the top 1000 of all the projects I crunch
23:27 <MTughan> Yes Doug, you whoop all our asses in BOINC. How many times have we heard now?
23:27 <Soul_keeper> it's not showing your hosts
23:28 <wdsmia> maybe 3 or 4 :P
23:29 <wdsmia> not showing the hosts... well I dont want to upset MTughan
23:30 <MTughan> Don't worry, I'm looking over a headset.
23:31 <surrealillusion> lol
23:33 <MTughan> Heh, I still have more credit than you overall...
23:33 <wdsmia> Ah stuck with seti
23:33 <surrealillusion> yup
23:33 <surrealillusion> haven't jumped to anything else yet
23:33 <MTughan> Although for time, you're killing me.
23:33 <surrealillusion> only been crunching for the past 2.5 months
23:34 <surrealillusion> i did do seti classic ... but forgot the account i used years ago
23:34 <MTughan> Took me over a year to get there, although most of that was with only the P4 at stock speeds. The Core Duo got me really far...
23:34 <Soul_keeper> i tore seti classic up lol, can you still check old stats ?
23:34 <MTughan> I've found that, at least for Mac and Linux x86, Einstein gives lots of points.
23:34 <MTughan> credits*
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23:35 <MTughan> Heh... The graphs are the bottom are all solid blue. Nice blue though...
23:35 <wdsmia> lol
23:36 <surrealillusion> still gotta figure out what i'm going to do with that sun fire v120 server ....
23:37 * wdsmia heads for the pillow server
23:37 <wdsmia> &nn
23:37 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
23:37 <MTughan> Not sure if anyone's really interested... But I have an OOo spreadsheet of what I'm speccing. http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/New%20Computer%20Spec.ods
23:38 <MTughan> Bye.
23:38 <MTughan> If anyone does open it, ignore the first page. That's obsolete now, I've stopped updating it.
23:41 <Soul_keeper> http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_42884.html lol there we go, my little crew from seti classic
23:50 <Soul_keeper> the winner of seti classic was some chinese person
23:51 <Soul_keeper> http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/venue_3.html