IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-06-16

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00:06 <MTughan> &xkcd rofl

00:06 <Romulus> http://www.xkcd.com/

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00:15 <surreal> w00t

00:15 <surreal> i got another Q6600 to add to my boinc account

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00:38 <efc> storming crazy here

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00:40 <efc> http://www.strikestarus.com/index.aspx?id=70

00:40 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at www.strikestarus.com)

00:40 <efc> seems a lot worse here

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00:45 <efc> a little more realistic: http://reynoldswx.com/

00:45 <Romulus> Title: www.reynoldswx.com - Reynolds Georgia Weather Conditions (at reynoldswx.com)

00:46 <efc> 85/minute

00:51 <MTughan> Even sounds bad...

00:53 <MTughan> Anyway, I have to be off to bed. See ya.

00:53 <Tank_Master> gn

00:53 <MTughan> Posted my idea of a BOINC Manager to the boinc_dev mailing list too just a few minutes ago... Maybe we'll see some reform.

00:53 <MTughan> :P

00:55 <Tank_Master> g/l with that

00:55 <MTughan> Have you seen it? http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/BOINCMgrLayout.png

00:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6hqud4> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

00:56 <Tank_Master> looks vary winDOS

00:56 <MTughan> Yeah, that's my drawing skills with GIMP...

00:56 <Tank_Master> :)

00:56 <Tank_Master> but it works

00:56 <MTughan> Supposed to be some OS X Leopard colours, but really not great with it...

00:57 <MTughan> If I can get something up in Interface Builder soon enough, oughta look cool.

00:57 <Tank_Master> to much room taken up at the top

00:58 <MTughan> That's for another toolbar, but I don't know what buttons to put up there yet.

00:58 <MTughan> Attach to Project would probably be one...

00:58 <Tank_Master> ahh

01:04 <MTughan> There. Refresh the image.

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01:10 <surreal> hmm

01:10 <surreal> i'm getting some weird ass performance with my new Q6600

01:10 <surreal> running linux

01:10 <MTughan> How so?

01:11 <surreal> it switches between core 0 and core 2

01:11 <surreal> and the gui hangs

01:12 <MTughan> What version?

01:12 <Romulus> Somebody said What version are you using now, MTughan

01:12 <MTughan> You're not asking me, I'm asking surreal...

01:12 <surreal> hmm 5.10 something

01:12 <surreal> i just emerged it

01:12 <MTughan> 5.10.45 probably then...

01:13 <surreal> yeah it's really odd ... it's not doing this on my other gentoo pc

01:13 <MTughan> You could always try downloading the 6.2 beta. There are a few quirks, but it's fairly good right now.

01:13 <surreal> i'm too tired to putz with it tonight

01:13 <surreal> haha

01:13 <surreal> i've got work in 6 hrs

01:13 <surreal> i'll just let it do whatever its doing for now

01:13 <surreal> figure out tomorrow

01:13 <MTughan> School in 7h45m here.

01:14 <surreal> but at least the beast is built

01:14 <surreal> now i have two Q6600 crunchers

01:14 <MTughan> How are the Q6600's?

01:14 <surreal> so i can retire this BE2350 to a PVR

01:14 <surreal> great

01:14 <surreal> i've o/c'd them to 3ghz each

01:14 <surreal> 4200 RAC the first roughly

01:14 <surreal> and it's still climbing

01:14 <surreal> so i'm hoping for 5k rac on each

01:14 <MTughan> Planning on getting one myself. Got a Zalman 9500 cooler already, so I'd OC to 3.4 or higher if I can. :D

01:15 <surreal> that'll all depend on the voltage you'll need to run to it, mobo, etc

01:15 <surreal> the one in my gaming system is undervolted

01:15 <MTughan> Just OC'd my P4 2.8GHz to 3.15GHz. I think I can go higher, but Windows was randomly rebooting. Haven't figured out if it was the proc or the OS...

01:15 <surreal> and gets 3ghz

01:15 <surreal> this one gets 3ghz on stock voltage

01:15 <MTughan> I'd be running either a P35 or an X38 chipset MB.

01:16 <MTughan> With at least a 550W PSU.

01:16 <surreal> go 600 at least

01:16 <surreal> if you've got multiple hard drives

01:16 <MTughan> 2, but only one runs at a time.

01:16 <surreal> 600w psu's are at a good price overall

01:16 <Soul_keeper> that's a respectable oc MTughan

01:16 <Soul_keeper> :)

01:16 <surreal> i picked up my antec for $60

01:16 <surreal> and an OCZ for $65 after MIR

01:16 <MTughan> And my GPU from 523MHz to 590MHz. :D

01:16 <surreal> my room is full of blue LED's now

01:17 <surreal> ok gonna let this run for now

01:17 <MTughan> You're getting 600W PSUs for $60?

01:17 <surreal> hopefully it'll fix itself by the time i wake up

01:17 <surreal> yup

01:17 <surreal> NCIX had a sale 2 weeks ago

01:17 <surreal> $5.99 ground shipping

01:17 <MTughan> Ah, that explains it...

01:17 <surreal> and one of the door crashers was an Antec TruePower Trio 650W PSU

01:17 <Soul_keeper> i got a 650watt antec like 3 months ago, was 98 bucks locally

01:17 <surreal> $60

01:18 <surreal> and last week I ordered the OCZ gamer series PSU

01:18 <surreal> with blue LED's

01:18 <surreal> $90

01:18 <MTughan> The TruePower Trio 650W here is $110.

01:18 <surreal> but has like a $25 MIR

01:18 <MTughan> I have a TruePower (not Trio) 550W right now.

01:18 <MTughan> BTW, GPU was a Radeon 9600XT...

01:19 <surreal> i haven't even touched O/C'ing the 9600GT I just bought too

01:19 <surreal> lol

01:19 <surreal> but for $99 after MIR

01:19 <MTughan> Oh, I can get an Antec EarthWatts 650W PSU for $60.

01:19 <surreal> it sure beat an ATI 3870 I was looking at

01:19 <Soul_keeper> untill we can run boinc projects on the gpu no real point in oc'n it

01:19 <MTughan> Ah, planning on doing that too... Asus 9600GT Silent.

01:19 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, that's what i got is the earthwatts

01:19 <surreal> MTughan, I got the BFG version

01:19 <MTughan> Was looking at the NeoPower here, with the modular cables.

01:19 <surreal> $139

01:19 <surreal> then $40 MIR

01:20 <MTughan> Looking for a powerful computer, that's also dead quiet.

01:20 <surreal> $99 and a lifetime warranty

01:20 <MTughan> $170 for the Asus.

01:20 <surreal> I don't play crisis so I don't need to OC

01:20 <Soul_keeper> i got the earthwatts because it was the most recently released psu in antec's products

01:20 <MTughan> Planning to possibly play Call of Duty though.

01:20 <surreal> ok bedtime

01:20 <Soul_keeper> highest efficiency

01:20 <MTughan> Bye.

01:20 <surreal> catch you guys on the flip side

01:20 <Soul_keeper> late

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01:21 <MTughan> I suppose what I could always do is splurge on a 1000W PSU now and keep it for a decade. xD

01:21 <MTughan> Or a 1250W... Nice.

01:21 <Soul_keeper> nah it'll be outdated in like 1yr

01:21 <Soul_keeper> they'll switch the connectors on you

01:22 <MTughan> And the 650W?

01:22 <efc_P3_600> What a ridiculous amount of power..

01:22 <Soul_keeper> i have a perfectly good 550 truecontrol, but had to get the 650 because they changed the connectors

01:22 <MTughan> Not for a commercial workstation, it's not.

01:23 <Soul_keeper> if you do sli or crossfire on an overclocked system you can easily pull like 500 watts on the spikes

01:23 <MTughan> Yep, 1250W seems to be the most powerful here. A few 1200W units too.

01:23 <Soul_keeper> top end stuff of course

01:24 <MTughan> Yeah, was planning on allowing for expandability to SLI, but apparently the nVidia chipsets aren't great for OC'ing Intel CPUs... Not as good as Intel's chips anyway.

01:24 <Soul_keeper> even if you don't max the psu out stability goes down as power usage goes up, the rails lag

01:24 <MTughan> So I changed from looking for an nForce NB to a P35 or X38 NB.

01:25 <MTughan> Ah, CAD updated... Reading it, then I need to go to bed.

01:25 <Soul_keeper> intel chipsets for intel cpu

01:25 <Soul_keeper> that's always been the best

01:25 <efc_P3_600> I think I'm going to get a Kill-a-watt and do some measurements, should be interesting

01:25 <Soul_keeper> amd  is good with mixing it up tho

01:26 <Soul_keeper> efc_P3_600, yeah i picked one up from newegg 6 months back

01:26 <MTughan> May be, but AMD's Phenoms still don't quite measure up to the Core 2 Quads, not even the Kentsfield cores.

01:26 <MTughan> Anyway, seeya.

01:26 <efc_P3_600> this thing is running on a 235 watt, probably very lightly loaded on it, but its ancient

01:27 <efc_P3_600> I'd be able to see for sure

01:28 <Soul_keeper> i got a c2d system at 3GHz with integrated graphics and matx mb, it only pulls 120 watts under load

01:28 <Soul_keeper> measured with the killawatt

01:28 <Soul_keeper> my P4 at 3.2 pulls well over 300 watts with an nvidia 6800

01:28 <efc_P3_600> Nice

01:29 <efc_P3_600> Yeah P4 needs to get the Energy-Star Flunk award

01:30 <Soul_keeper> welp i'm headed out for the night, late

01:34 <efc_P3_600> Night

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02:06 <Tank_Master> &cyborg KoToR

02:07 <Romulus> Tank_Master: K.O.T.O.R.: Knight Optimized for Troubleshooting and Online Repair

02:10 <efc> &cybog WOTAN

02:10 <Romulus> Wish I knew!

02:10 <efc> oops

02:10 <efc> &cyborg WOTAN

02:10 <Romulus> efc: W.O.T.A.N.: Worker Optimized for Troubleshooting and Accurate Nullification

02:10 <efc> Ummmmmmm

02:11 <efc> I assume that was "Wanker"

02:13 <Tank_Master> worker

02:14 <efc> I think I like the former better

02:15 <Tank_Master> lol

02:15 <efc> That would be the best CYBORG ever

02:16 <Tank_Master> &cyborg Democratic

02:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: D.E.M.O.C.R.A.T.I.C.: Digital Electronic Machine Optimized for Ceaseless Repair, Accurate Troubleshooting and Immediate Calculation

02:16 <Tank_Master> &cyborg republican

02:16 <Romulus> Tank_Master: R.E.P.U.B.L.I.C.A.N.: Robotic Electronic Person Used for Basic Learning, Immediate Calculation and Accurate Nullification

02:17 <efc> more like Instant Calcification

02:17 <Tank_Master> huh, at least the rebublican can learn...

02:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg libertarian

02:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Names can't have more than 10 letters. Please enter another name.

02:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg libertaria

02:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: L.I.B.E.R.T.A.R.I.A.: Lifelike Intelligent Being Engineered for Rational Troubleshooting, Accurate Repair and Immediate Assassination

02:18 <Tank_Master> &cyborg ibertarian

02:18 <Romulus> Tank_Master: I.B.E.R.T.A.R.I.A.N.: Intelligent Biomechanical Entity Responsible for Thorough Assassination, Rational Infiltration and Accurate Nullification

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02:19 <Tank_Master> well, that didnt work

02:21 <efc> &cyborg LIBERAL

02:21 <Romulus> efc: L.I.B.E.R.A.L.: Lifeform Intended for Battle, Efficient Repair and Accurate Learning

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02:38 <efc> 1000 cores in a 42U rack

02:38 <Tank_Master> mmmm

02:39 <Tank_Master> 45nm cores?

02:39 <efc> Xeon 5400 whatever that is

02:40 <Tank_Master> 65nm quads

02:40 <Tank_Master> still aint bad

02:40 <efc> wait for the fpga rack :)

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02:54 <efc> they seem to be under 10 watts but hard to say exactly

02:54 <efc> mine being 3 or 4

03:00 <efc> they do have some in 65 nm now

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03:57 <efc> &weather 31088

03:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 69F / 20C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the lower (1 more message)

03:57 <efc> &more

03:57 <Romulus> efc: 70s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds up to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

03:57 <efc> left out the flood warning

03:57 <efc> &weather reynolds, ga

03:57 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 67.9F / 19.9C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 90s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows (1 more message)

03:57 <efc> &more

03:57 <Romulus> efc: around 70. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Scattered showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 90s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

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05:10 * CoderForLife is awakened by the alarm

05:10 <CoderForLife> well - that's a first in a long while

05:11 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 65.8F / 18.8C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 (1 more message)

05:11 <CoderForLife> &more

05:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.;

05:11 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:18 <CoderForLife> b

05:19 <KathrynM> mornin

05:19 <CoderForLife> hey =)

05:20 <KathrynM> swimming?

05:20 <CoderForLife> in humidity

05:20 <KathrynM> hill holding up?

05:21 <CoderForLife> it hasn't completely fallen down...

05:21 <KathrynM> construction start soon?

05:21 <CoderForLife> I see a progress report is needed.. =)

05:21 <KathrynM> yes

05:22 <CoderForLife> I have the final plan from the civil engineer.  I've made contact with the most likely contractor..

05:23 <CoderForLife> he shoud,have picked up the plan from the civil this past weekend..

05:23 <CoderForLife> he will be on vacation this week..

05:23 <CoderForLife> but said that he could get me pricing by mid-week the week after..

05:23 <CoderForLife> I just got an e-mail this morning..

05:24 <CoderForLife> from the homeowner's association asking if they can come by tonight or tomorrow night to approve the plan..

05:24 <KathrynM> ouch

05:24 <CoderForLife> I have figured out about (hopefully) 80% of the financing

05:25 <KathrynM> that's good

05:25 <CoderForLife> *assuming* my civil wa sright about the installed cost

05:25 * KathrynM crosses fingers

05:25 <CoderForLife> I am hoping he was *too high*  =)

05:26 <KathrynM> me too

05:27 <CoderForLife> I am going to try to get in touch with another contractor - an e-mail I sent to introduce myself and my need bounced back - mailbox full

05:27 <KathrynM> that's a positive sign

05:27 * KathrynM shakes head

05:27 <CoderForLife> it's a sign all right

05:28 <KathrynM> brb...  gonna make some dinner

05:28 <CoderForLife> I guess that sums up the status

05:28 <CoderForLife> k

05:37 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

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05:43 <dizzie_> Morning all :)

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06:16 <CoderForLife> morning dizzie wdsmia

06:16 <CoderForLife> just finishing up w@#% prep here

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06:29 <hawmps> spork'd >> 221.12.20.123

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06:38 <CoderForLife> gesporkened - thx

06:39 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:39 <CoderForLife> laterzz

06:39 * CoderForLife sees he is still yet away

06:39 * CoderForLife makes it more so

07:05 <ELGono> main power failure on campus is always phunstuff

07:19 <hawmps> 'lo ElG

07:24 <ELGono> lo jay

07:27 <hawmps> another one >> 210.220.65.80

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09:14 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

09:14 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 79.0F / 26.1C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Increasing cloudiness. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely in (1 more message)

09:14 <jackygrahamez> &more

09:14 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: the evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce damaging winds in the evening. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 80. Northwest winds 10 to 20 mph.;

09:17 <jackygrahamez> Hi PovAddict_

09:18 <jackygrahamez> What you said last week made so much sense to me but now I forgot

09:18 <jackygrahamez> The humidity does that

09:20 <jackygrahamez> I remember you said make a wrapper and do something to get the python path...

09:23 <jackygrahamez> ahh I see we have logs!

09:23 <Tank_Master> :)

09:25 <jackygrahamez> <PovAddict> modify the wrapper so that it concatenates the project directory with "python.exe" *instead* of calling resolve_filename

09:25 <jackygrahamez> Ok as soon as I get boinc compiled again

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09:34 <jackygrahamez> If you build in samples in release do you need to build the libraries in release as well?

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09:37 <jackygrahamez> Looks like it does not mater

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09:47 <Tank_Master> just build it and they will come

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10:07 <chanueting> I've received these messages, what does it means?

10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:06 HKT||Contacting account manager at http://bam.boincstats.com/

10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:06 HKT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks

10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Account manager error: can't resolve hostname

10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site

10:07 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:10 HKT||Access to reference site failed - check network connection or proxy configuration.

10:08 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:12 HKT|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name

10:08 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:06:12 HKT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks

10:08 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:06:17 HKT|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name

10:10 <Tank_Master> haha

10:12 <dizzie> Mmmm spam?

10:13 <Tank_Master> spam I am

10:13 <dizzie> Isnt spam ham in a can? =)

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10:13 <Tank_Master> :

10:14 <avis> i am not happy that boinc broadcasts my name as someone who contribute to boinc projects.  well, not boinc, but the rosetta project and world community grid

10:14 <Tank_Master> ?

10:14 <Tank_Master> how do you mean?

10:15 <avis> my name is indexed in google searches as a contributor

10:15 <avis> i dont remember authorizing that

10:15 <Tank_Master> id blame google

10:15 <avis> why ?  they did not choose to publish my name

10:16 <Tank_Master> they have a habit of indexing things they shouldnt

10:16 <avis> the web servers that world community grid and rosetta project chose to publish that, not google

10:16 <Tank_Master> id still blame google :P

10:17 <avis> i dont believe google will index pages that have been marked as "do not page" in their web master tools

10:17 <Tank_Master> oh, but they have in the past

10:18 <avis> that doesn't make them necessarily guilty in this case.  i'd have to check the web page code, which i dont feel like doing.

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10:41 <hawmps> 3-wd's

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10:45 <Tank_Master> triplets

10:45 <e-30> hey

10:45 <Tank_Master> hi

10:46 <e-30> how are you doing

10:46 <Tank_Master> good

10:46 <e-30> cool still working out stuff here

10:46 *** PovAddict_ is now known as PovAddict

10:46 <Tank_Master> what for?

10:47 <e-30> trying to get stuff back working again so i can play my games

10:48 <Tank_Master> ahh

10:48 <Tank_Master> yeah, games are important

10:48 <e-30> yep

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10:50 <hawmps> 'lo e

10:53 <chanueting> I would like to ask what does 'Account manager error: can't resolve hostname' means

10:53 <Tank_Master> it cant find the SETI servers

10:53 <Tank_Master> cant translate the server name to an IP address

10:54 <chanueting> but the server is up, right?

10:54 <Tank_Master> knowing SETI?

10:54 <Tank_Master> it could easly be down

10:55 <dizzie> Isnt Seti pretty much always down ? :)

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10:55 <chanueting> but the site is up

10:55 <Tank_Master> not lately

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10:55 <Tank_Master> so?

10:55 <Romulus> It has been said that so is iStat, Tank_Master

10:55 <Tank_Master> huh?

10:57 <Tank_Master> seems like everything at SETI should be working fine

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10:59 <chanueting> I do think that there is some wrong setting on my computer but I have followed the one on Boinc wiki, any ideas

10:59 <Tank_Master> restart the comp

11:00 <Tank_Master> sometimes thatll clear out bad/old network settings

11:02 <PovAddict> avis: if you want privacy, don't use Internet

11:02 <chanueting> I get some wrong messages:

11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:06 HKT||Contacting account manager at http://bam.boincstats.com/

11:02 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at bam.boincstats.com)

11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:06 HKT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.  Requesting 0 seconds of work, reporting 1 completed tasks

11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Account manager error: can't resolve hostname

11:02 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:09 HKT||Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site

11:03 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:10 HKT||Access to reference site failed - check network connection or proxy configuration.

11:03 <chanueting> Mon 16 Jun 2008 22:05:12 HKT|SETI@home|Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name

11:03 <chanueting> Let see what does these mean

11:03 <PovAddict> chanueting: stop pasting your messages here

11:03 <chanueting> restart the comp does not work

11:03 <PovAddict> if it's more than TWO lines, use a pastebin like www.pastebin.ca

11:03 <Tank_Master> it cant connect to either the SETI servers or BOINCstats

11:04 <Tank_Master> r u using the latest version of BOINC?

11:04 <Tank_Master> 5.10.45?

11:04 <Romulus> I guess 5.10.45 is considered the latest 'stable', Tank_Master

11:05 <e-30> ohb

11:05 <e-30> oh

11:05 <PovAddict> Romulus: forget 5.10.45

11:05 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.

11:05 <chanueting> PovAddict: sorry, I have just wanted to paste it on fedora IRC

11:05 <PovAddict> chanueting: never paste a dozen lines in any IRC channel

11:05 <hawmps> pasting here isn't a problem...

11:05 <Tank_Master> no, it really isnt a prob

11:06 <chanueting> so, what do you think?

11:06 <hawmps> just try to keep it less than 8-10

11:06 <hawmps> seti was bouncing on and off earlier...

11:07 <hawmps> so it could be their site...

11:07 <Tank_Master> but boincstats would still work is SETI was down

11:07 <hawmps> or your DNS is hosed up..

11:07 <Tank_Master> Account manager error: can't resolve hostname

11:07 <chanueting> how about boincstat?

11:07 <hawmps> which there has been a bunch of lately..

11:08 <PovAddict> chanueting: can you go to boincstats.com from your browser?

11:08 <chanueting> sure

11:09 <hawmps> ping boinc.berkeley.edu

11:09 <hawmps> if you can....

11:10 <chanueting> I can

11:10 <hawmps> hmmm...

11:11 <hawmps> can you bring up the setiathome web page?

11:11 <chanueting> I use FC9, when I use non-privileged user to run boinc, no problem exists, but there are the problems after using root

11:11 <hawmps> yeah.. that would do it...

11:12 <hawmps> did you install selinux?

11:12 <chanueting> yes

11:13 <hawmps> there's your answer... you'll have to run boinc as it's own user via a remote shell or something

11:14 <chanueting> sorry, I cannot see your point

11:15 <dizzie> dont run it as suid 0 (root)

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11:21 <chanueting> Isn't the site http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_on_Linux tell us to run it as root?

11:21 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6jzkgp> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

11:22 <chanueting> or, have I misunderstood?

11:22 <PovAddict> where?

11:22 <hawmps> that assumes you're "user" (not root)

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11:27 <chanueting> I am confused, why need I use root then?

11:28 <chanueting> Let see the part 'Fedora 7 and up'

11:28 <chanueting> Isn't the daemon ran by root?

11:30 <PovAddict> no, it never is

11:30 <PovAddict> you always need root to install any package

11:30 <PovAddict> but the fedora package then creates a whole new user for boinc to run in

11:31 <dizzie> i dont even know my root pass

11:31 <dizzie> sudo -i works :)

11:32 <chanueting> how about '/sbin/chkconfig boinc-client on' and '/sbin/service boinc-client start' in the passage?

11:32 <PovAddict> I don't know about fedora

11:35 <chanueting> neither do I at this point

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11:57 <KathrynM> FWIW, the stuff in the Fedora part about root is there because the package manager creates a boinc user without a password.  At least I think so.

11:57 <KathrynM> I'm not using the package, but that's how the rpm was setup

11:57 <PovAddict> you always need root to install a package

11:57 <KathrynM> that and starting daemons has to be done as root

11:57 <KathrynM> I think he was mainly talking about

11:57 <KathrynM> As root, open /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg in a text editor (the long string of characters is the GUI RPC password).

11:58 <PovAddict> yep

11:58 <KathrynM> I'd rather control the boinc version myself

11:59 * KathrynM yawns

11:59 * KathrynM goes back to bed

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12:02 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

12:04 <yoyo[RKN]> is there a way to send messages to the boinc users direct into the boincmanager, e.g. in the message tab?

12:06 <PovAddict> errors returned by the server are shown in the messages tab

12:06 <PovAddict> like those "won't finish in time"

12:06 <yoyo[RKN]> I will send the rss news somehow

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12:07 <yoyo[RKN]> I can periodic update the gui_url.xml, to show e.g. 2 additional buttons with the latest news

12:07 <PovAddict> see sched/sched_send.C:1061

12:08 <PovAddict> you should use that USER_MESSAGE thing

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12:15 <yoyo[RKN]> somewhere I read that there is a table for hosts and if there is something in it will be send to the host on next connect, but do not remember where.

12:15 <PovAddict> yes, but those aren't messages to be shown to the user

12:15 <PovAddict> those are messages like "delete file", or trickle-downs for workunits

12:16 <yoyo[RKN]> aha, ok

12:16 <PovAddict> I have a new room thermometer :P

12:17 <PovAddict> $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature

12:18 <PovAddict> now if I could send infrared signals from my computer

12:20 <PovAddict> I could write a script to turn on my air conditioner if it's too cold

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14:06 <jackygrahamez> hi PovAddict

14:07 <hawmps> spork >> 83.18.235.3

14:08 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to figure out how to pass the string from main function to the application path

14:08 <jackygrahamez> I'm a bad programmer

14:11 <avis> PovAddict, its not unreasonable for me to expect privacy when i'm donating cpu cycles and electricity to greater causes

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14:36 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to do this

14:36 <jackygrahamez> int TASK::run(int argct, char** argvt, char strPythonExe)

14:37 <jackygrahamez> but I get this

14:37 <jackygrahamez> error C2511: 'int TASK::run(int,char **,char)' : overloaded member function not found in 'TASK'

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14:37 <jackygrahamez> I also tried using strPythonExe as a global

14:37 <jackygrahamez> did not like that

15:11 <jackygrahamez> ah I think I figured out how to pass it now

15:44 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news June 16, 2008

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15:58 <xcamel> re-hi

16:00 <jackygrahamez> any c++ programmers here?

16:01 <jackygrahamez> I think I almost figured this thing out. I just need to find and replace the forward slashes in a string

16:01 <PovAddict> a std::string or a char*?

16:02 <jackygrahamez> char strPythonExe[_MAX_PATH];

16:03 <jackygrahamez> char [260]

16:03 <PovAddict> wait, where will that string be used?

16:03 <jackygrahamez> I'm trying to use this example

16:03 <jackygrahamez> http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/string/string/find.html

16:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2qtov9> (at www.cplusplus.com)

16:03 <PovAddict> usually forward slashes work everywhere

16:03 <jackygrahamez> really

16:03 <PovAddict> string.find won't work for a char array

16:04 <jackygrahamez> currently it generates this C:\Program Files\BOINC/projects/hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe

16:04 <jackygrahamez> and it fails to execute

16:04 <jackygrahamez> I don't know if i'm passing it wrong

16:05 <jackygrahamez> its confusing how some slashes are forward and others a backwards

16:07 <jackygrahamez> This is where I pass it

16:07 <jackygrahamez> retval = task.run(argc, argv, strPythonExe);

16:07 <jackygrahamez> I redefined struct TASK

16:07 <PovAddict> www.pastebin.ca put your whole source there

16:07 <jackygrahamez> int run(int argc, char** argv, char [260]);

16:07 <jackygrahamez> ok

16:12 <jackygrahamez> Says my proxy has abused it

16:12 <PovAddict> www.pastebin.com

16:15 <jackygrahamez> done

16:16 <jackygrahamez> I just checked, this source works for standard applications, but trying to resolved this concactenated path ahh not so much

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16:20 <jackygrahamez> can't run app: -148

16:20 <PovAddict> the extra parameter you're passing to run() is completely ignored

16:20 <PovAddict> since it doesn't even have a name, there is no way for the function to use it

16:21 <jackygrahamez> ahh I tried giving it a name and it gave me issues compiling

16:23 <PovAddict> is your app Windows-only?

16:23 <PovAddict> you're using python.exe so I figured it was

16:23 <jackygrahamez> no but I thought I would make it windows specific for now

16:24 <jackygrahamez> will it work if we take of the .exe?

16:24 <PovAddict> then I can simplify and hardcode the backslash

16:24 <PovAddict> instead of that pathdelim thing

16:25 <PovAddict> http://pastebin.ca/1048664

16:25 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Miscellany - post number 1048664 (at pastebin.ca)

16:25 <PovAddict> disclaimer: I don't even know if that *compiles*

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16:26 <jackygrahamez> 403 - 144.171.126.227 - Forbidden

16:26 <MTughan> Yeah, static server's down again.

16:26 <jackygrahamez> that darn server won't let me in

16:26 <MTughan> Got it...

16:26 <PovAddict> http://stuff.povaddict.com.ar:8080/wrapper.cpp

16:27 <PovAddict> MTughan: jackygrahamez's proxy or something is being blocked by pastebin.ca

16:27 <MTughan> Is being blocked by pastebin, or it's blocked him from pastebin?

16:27 <PovAddict> no idea

16:28 <jackygrahamez> Sorry, your request has been denied due to abuse from your address (or because of a shared proxy which was abused, and I apologize for being wrong about that). Access will be permitted in 1 hour 33 mins.

16:28 <jackygrahamez> If you believe this wrong, please go to Pastebin's abuse removal page (which is automatic). You may also report this at http://blog.slepp.ca/contact/

16:28 <jackygrahamez> Sorry, your request has been denied due to abuse from your address (or because of a shared proxy which was abused, and I apologize for being wrong about that). Access will be permitted in 1 hour 33 mins.

16:28 <jackygrahamez> weird :-)

16:30 <jackygrahamez> ahh so you used this as the conditional application == "python"

16:30 <PovAddict> yes, C++ string class can be compared with just ==

16:32 <jackygrahamez> error C2110: '+' : cannot add two pointers

16:33 <PovAddict> ugh, project_dir is a char*?

16:34 <jackygrahamez> yup

16:34 <jackygrahamez> wait

16:35 <jackygrahamez> char[256]

16:35 <PovAddict> try this: app_path = string(myBOINCData.project_dir) + "\\python2.5\\python.exe";

16:36 <jackygrahamez> got it

16:38 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running C:\Program Files\BOINC/projects/hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe (../../projects/hydrogenathome.org/AutoDockTools/AutoDockTools/Utilities24/prepare_ligand4.py  -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)

16:38 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0x2

16:38 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish

16:38 <jackygrahamez> dang

16:43 <PovAddict> http://pastebin.ca/1048665

16:43 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1048665 (at pastebin.ca)

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16:54 <CoderForLife> home again

16:55 <MTughan> 'lo CFL

16:55 <CoderForLife> hello Michael

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17:03 <jackygrahamez> of course I can't open this pastebin dang it

17:03 <yoyo[RKN]> http://yoyo.pastebin.com/

17:03 <Romulus> Title: yoyo private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at yoyo.pastebin.com)

17:04 <MTughan> One second jacky.

17:04 <PovAddict> ah forgot

17:04 <MTughan> From yoyo's: http://yoyo.pastebin.com/m1c1a64fc

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17:09 <xcamel> some pretty snotty storms going by...

17:14 <jackygrahamez> me too

17:14 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

17:14 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 70.5F / 21.4C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely this evening...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with large hail and damaging winds this evening. Lows (1 more message)

17:17 <jackygrahamez> still having trouble here

17:17 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period

17:17 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: 1.000000

17:17 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period

17:17 <jackygrahamez> Can't set up shared mem: -1

17:17 <jackygrahamez> Will run in standalone mode.

17:17 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: starting

17:17 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe (../../projects/hydrogenathome.org/AutoDockTools/AutoDockTools/Utilities24/prepare_ligand4.py  -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)

17:17 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0x2

17:17 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish

17:17 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period

17:18 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: 1.000000

17:18 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period

17:18 <jackygrahamez> Can't set up shared mem: -1

17:18 <jackygrahamez> Will run in standalone mode.

17:18 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: starting

17:18 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\python2.5\python.exe (..\..\projects\hydrogenathome.org\AutoDockTools\AutoDockTools\Utilities24\prepare_ligand4.py  -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)

17:18 <jackygrahamez> app exit status: 0x2

17:18 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish

17:18 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period

17:18 <jackygrahamez> I tried the command line two ways

17:18 <jackygrahamez> forward slash and back slash

17:20 <CoderForLife> expecting the homeowner's association rep in the next 45 minutes or so to come look at my "problem" and approve the plan

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17:26 <jackygrahamez> Once I figure how to get this working, I also have to figure out how to resolve the path for the actually python scripts

17:27 <jackygrahamez> Thanks for your help so far though

17:37 <xcamel> 'lo Don

17:39 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

17:39 <CoderForLife> I have the vultures starting to circle

17:40 <CoderForLife> bbl

17:40 <xcamel> um... ok.

17:41 <xcamel> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080616.html

17:41 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 June 16 - Inside the Coma Cluster of Galaxies (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)

17:41 <xcamel> nice..

17:52 <jackygrahamez> ah I got an idea based on my stderr

17:52 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr

17:52 <jackygrahamez> C:\Program: can't open file 'Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\Python25\py

17:52 <jackygrahamez> thon.exe': [Errno 2] No such file or directory

17:52 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr

17:52 *** surreal[work] is now known as surreal

17:52 <surreal> nick surrealillusion

17:53 *** surreal is now known as surrealillusion

17:53 <MTughan> Yep, need the slash... :P

17:53 <PovAddict> ahaa, spaces

17:53 <surrealillusion> hmm my new Q6600 cruncher seeems to be slower

17:53 <surrealillusion> than it's xp counter-part

17:53 <surrealillusion> 2 hrs per s@h wu

17:53 <surrealillusion> wtf\

17:54 <Soul_keeper> optimize your stuff

17:55 <surrealillusion> yeah i'm gonna see if there's a 64bit version of the alex AK8 app

17:56 <Soul_keeper> first off recompile the kernel for a c2d, then go to http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads   and get the latest optimized app

17:56 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5oylun> (at lunatics.kwsn.net)

17:57 <MTughan> C2D even though it's a C2Q?

17:57 <surrealillusion> hmm i think my kernel is already optimized for C2D/C2Q

17:57 <PovAddict> sure, no diff...

17:57 <Soul_keeper> well those are all "intel"

17:57 <PovAddict> surrealillusion: get a seti app optimized for those

17:57 <surrealillusion> PovAddict, looking at the alex ak v8 port

17:58 <Soul_keeper> they are compiled with the intel compiler and optimized for intel cpu's

17:58 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: http://yoyo.pastebin.com/d269e385b

17:58 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: I hate Windows API, particularly CreateProcess <.<

17:59 <Soul_keeper> that site i linked is  Alex Kan's  code apparently

17:59 <Soul_keeper> not too sure who is who of the optimized app feild, but i havn't found any better

18:00 <surrealillusion> i'm running the ak v8 optimized app on my xp pro gaming system

18:00 <surrealillusion> 4400 rac so far

18:00 <surrealillusion> and still climbing

18:01 <Soul_keeper> apparently the linux ones are the exact same code, just hacked/compiled for linux by someone that goes by the nick  "Crunch3r"

18:02 <MTughan> Oh, not him...

18:02 <MTughan> Arrogant little idiot...

18:02 <Soul_keeper> http://calbe.dw70.de/linux32.html

18:02 <Romulus> Title: Crunch3rs BOINC page (at calbe.dw70.de)

18:02 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:04 <jackygrahamez> ah no go I'm afraid

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18:05 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr.txt

18:05 <jackygrahamez> Unrecognized XML in parse_init_data_file: fraction_done_update_period

18:05 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: 1.000000

18:05 <jackygrahamez> Skipping: /fraction_done_update_period

18:05 <jackygrahamez> Can't set up shared mem: -1

18:05 <jackygrahamez> Will run in standalone mode.

18:05 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: starting

18:05 <jackygrahamez> wrapper: running "C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\hydrogenathome.org\Python25\py

18:05 <jackygrahamez> thon.exe" (../../projects/hydrogenathome.org/AutoDockTools/AutoDockTools/Utiliti

18:05 <jackygrahamez> es24/prepare_ligand4.py  -l 1213630378_nsc2559.mol2 -o nsc2559.pdbqt)

18:05 <jackygrahamez> can't run app: -148

18:05 <jackygrahamez> called boinc_finish

18:05 <jackygrahamez> C:\PROGRA~1\BOINC\slots\0>more stderr.txt

18:06 <surrealillusion> ok done

18:06 <surrealillusion> we'll see if this provides any improvement tonight

18:06 <jackygrahamez> probably will be easier on other platforms

18:07 <PovAddict> MTughan: http://pastebin.ca/1048678

18:07 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1048678 (at pastebin.ca)

18:07 <PovAddict> &boincerr -148

18:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: exec() failed

18:08 <MTughan> I think we have to avoid pastebin.ca for a bit... So slow.

18:08 <Soul_keeper> surrealillusion, i havn't tryed the new ones yet, i'll hafta give them a run on my two 2cd systems

18:08 <jackygrahamez> They don't like me

18:08 <surrealillusion> i found the ak made a good improvement

18:08 <surrealillusion> now im just waiting for some rebates to come back

18:08 <surrealillusion> and to sell this sonata II case

18:08 <PovAddict> MTughan: fine, I'll upload it somewhere else

18:08 <surrealillusion> once i get the power supply rma'd

18:09 <MTughan> Uh... Okay...

18:09 <MTughan> No, I got it up.

18:09 <surrealillusion> then i'm gonna build a vista home premium pvr

18:09 <surrealillusion> with a Q6600

18:09 <surrealillusion> lol

18:09 <Soul_keeper> i'm running   2.4_Linux32_kernel_2.6_Intel_SSE3_FIXED.tar.bz2  now

18:09 <MTughan> Isn't that a little excessive?

18:09 <surrealillusion> MTughan: for a pvr?

18:09 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: You're running a bunzip?

18:09 <surrealillusion> or a cruncher ;)

18:09 <MTughan> PVR alone.

18:09 <surrealillusion> pvr/cruncher

18:10 <surrealillusion> haha

18:10 <MTughan> All encoding is done on the tuner card.

18:10 <PovAddict> MTughan: http://qdb.us/183660

18:10 <PovAddict> :P

18:10 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, no i'm running a copy/paste :)

18:10 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #183660 (at qdb.us)

18:10 <MTughan> So... many... flashes...

18:10 <surrealillusion> q9450 would be a bit excessive

18:10 <surrealillusion> for a pvr

18:10 <surrealillusion> mmm 12meg cache

18:10 <MTughan> Why?

18:10 <surrealillusion> i could just o/c this 2140 i have sitting here

18:11 <MTughan> If you're already running a Q6600, what's the diff in going to a Q9450?

18:11 <xcamel> 'lo Mike

18:11 <surrealillusion> lower TDP

18:11 <MTughan> 'lo Jay

18:11 <surrealillusion> less heat

18:11 <surrealillusion> more cache

18:11 <Soul_keeper> i checked prices yesterday and the c2q with 12MB runs about 250 bucks

18:11 <MTughan> Yeah, but why would it be excessive?

18:11 <surrealillusion> MTughan, an extra $150

18:11 <Soul_keeper> 275 for the xeon version

18:11 <surrealillusion> right now

18:11 <MTughan> Damn... Q6600 costs that. :(

18:11 <surrealillusion> wow $250? USD?

18:11 <Soul_keeper> yeah on newegg

18:11 <surrealillusion> we're still at $350 CDN

18:12 <surrealillusion> for a 9450

18:12 <MTughan> I can get a Q6600 for $230... And a Q9450 for ~$400.

18:12 <surrealillusion> pcvillage had a sale a while back

18:12 <surrealillusion> q6600 for $199

18:12 <MTughan> I think... Let me check.

18:12 <surrealillusion> same thing with Fry's in the states

18:12 <surrealillusion> and Microcenter

18:12 <MTughan> PCVillage is a bit far from here, Markham.

18:12 <Soul_keeper> the E5410 hapertown @ 2.33GHz is 275

18:13 <surrealillusion> ooh i can already see a difference in crunching time

18:13 <surrealillusion> exciting

18:13 <surrealillusion> i still have to add in the other two hard drives in here ...

18:13 <surrealillusion> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on

18:13 <surrealillusion> /dev/sda3            480183156   5171408 450619860   2% /

18:13 <surrealillusion> udev                     10240       176     10064   2% /dev

18:13 <surrealillusion> shm                    1030620         0   1030620   0% /dev/shm

18:14 <MTughan> surrealillusion: In the GTA?

18:14 <PovAddict> surrealillusion: use -h switch

18:14 <surrealillusion> my bad

18:14 <surrealillusion> MTughan: what in the gta?

18:14 <MTughan> Are you in the GTA?

18:14 <surrealillusion> used to

18:14 <surrealillusion> live around greektown

18:14 <surrealillusion> I'm in Ottawa now

18:14 <surrealillusion> U of T Scarghetto

18:14 <MTughan> Is there a PCVillage in Ottawa?

18:14 <surrealillusion> nope

18:15 <MTughan> lol...

18:15 <surrealillusion> but I pm with a local shop

18:15 <surrealillusion> lol

18:15 <surrealillusion> gotta love competition

18:15 <MTughan> Never heard that one before, Scarghetto.

18:15 <MTughan> I presume you're referring to Scarborough?

18:15 <surrealillusion> yup

18:15 <surrealillusion> Morningside

18:15 <surrealillusion> south of the 401

18:15 <MTughan> And the Q9450 is still $390 here, $300 for the Q9300.

18:15 * surrealillusion fills out his rebate forms

18:16 <surrealillusion> $350

18:16 <surrealillusion> umm

18:16 <MTughan> $230 for the Q6600.

18:16 <surrealillusion> check www.infonec.ca

18:16 <surrealillusion> and pcvonline should have the q6600 for $219

18:16 <MTughan> I never found Infonec had great stock.

18:16 <surrealillusion> same with directcanada

18:16 <surrealillusion> i just bought my BFG 9600GT from them

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18:17 <jackygrahamez> Hi PoveAddict was there something here I should see? I can't get in  http://pastebin.ca/1048678

18:17 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Stuff - post number 1048678 (at pastebin.ca)

18:18 <jackygrahamez> scratch that

18:18 <MTughan> That was a quote for me.

18:18 <PovAddict> jackygrahamez: no, just ##c++ idiots being idiots :)

18:18 <MTughan> Oh, I didn't know PCVillage had a location in Vaughan... That's about 5-10 minutes from my school.

18:19 <jackygrahamez> Well I'm at least in pastebin.ca now

18:19 <surrealillusion> probably just opened not too long ago

18:19 <jackygrahamez> what does PC stand for?

18:19 <surrealillusion> canada computers has a lot of stores now

18:19 <surrealillusion> personal computer?

18:19 <MTughan> That's where I'm looking and usually go.

18:19 <surrealillusion> progressive conservative

18:19 <jackygrahamez> oh a computer store

18:20 <surrealillusion> pompus cockface

18:20 <jackygrahamez> porn collection

18:20 <surrealillusion> pc means a lot of things

18:20 <surrealillusion> =]

18:20 <surrealillusion> MTughan: yeah sometimes CC has decent prices

18:20 <MTughan> The Q6600: http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=012505&cid=CPU.84

18:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2el5vd> (at www.canadacomputers.com)

18:20 <surrealillusion> but i find NCIX has pretty good deals every so often too

18:20 <MTughan> They almost always beat TigerDirect, who advertise that they can beat anyone... xD

18:20 <surrealillusion> if you don't mind having your stuff shipped

18:20 <MTughan> Yeah, that's the crux of it...

18:21 <PovAddict> Player Character

18:21 <surrealillusion> http://www.directcanada.com/

18:21 <Romulus> Title: Buy Computer Parts, Computer Hardware, PC Parts at Best Online Computer Shop - DirectCanada (at www.directcanada.com)

18:21 <surrealillusion> $215.88 + $9.99 air shipping ... and only 1 tax

18:22 <MTughan> 1% tax?

18:22 <surrealillusion> 7%

18:22 <surrealillusion> =P

18:22 <surrealillusion> but better than 13%

18:22 <MTughan> Ah... What is that?

18:22 <MTughan> It's not GST.

18:22 <surrealillusion> and works out to be a better deal if you order a bunch of stuff

18:22 <surrealillusion> oh wait 5%

18:23 <surrealillusion> i'm still stuck in 2006

18:23 <MTughan> Okay, so just GST then.

18:23 <surrealillusion> yup

18:23 <jackygrahamez> I should probably call it a night and ride home in the drizzle

18:23 <MTughan> Heh... Yes, the Conservatives are in.

18:23 <surrealillusion> the sun is out here

18:23 <surrealillusion> gonna go test out my tires again later

18:23 <surrealillusion> and burn gas @ $1.50

18:23 <surrealillusion> -_-

18:23 <jackygrahamez> any ideas on that exec failure though?

18:23 <MTughan> Yay... We're still down at ~$1.3 here. :D

18:23 <PovAddict> nope, out of ideas by now

18:24 <surrealillusion> MTughan: do you fill up with 91 Octane?

18:24 <MTughan> 87.

18:24 <jackygrahamez> ok thanks for the help

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18:24 <MTughan> With a Nissan Sentra and a Dodge Caravan, no need for 91 octane.

18:24 <surrealillusion> exactly

18:24 <surrealillusion> hah

18:25 <surrealillusion> 11.5:1 compression in a v4

18:25 <MTughan> What do you drive then?

18:25 <surrealillusion> 07 csx type-s

18:25 <MTughan> Acura?

18:25 <surrealillusion> it just asks to be driven hard

18:25 <surrealillusion> yup

18:25 <MTughan> Ah...

18:25 <surrealillusion> which means i get to watch the tank disappear into vapours

18:25 <surrealillusion> i had a loaner for the weekend

18:25 <surrealillusion> regular csx

18:25 <surrealillusion> 550km's to the tank

18:25 <surrealillusion> compared to my 420kms to a tank

18:25 <MTughan> One thing I notice that I can get at Canada Computers that's not at DirectCanada is the P182SE case.

18:25 <surrealillusion> made me almost cry

18:26 <surrealillusion> i was thinkin of the P180/182

18:26 <surrealillusion> and even the titan650

18:26 <surrealillusion> but i settled on the nine hundred for my gaming rig

18:26 <MTughan> No, this is the P182 Special Edition...

18:26 <surrealillusion> and the three hundred

18:26 <surrealillusion> for my file server

18:26 <MTughan> What do you think of mirror sides? xD

18:26 <surrealillusion> tossed some extra antec blue led fans into the three hundred

18:26 <surrealillusion> MTughan: I had two Sonata cases

18:26 <surrealillusion> i hated the smudges

18:27 <MTughan> Seriously though, I'm looking for good gaming performance with almost silent operation.

18:27 <MTughan> Dinner time though... We can discuss later.

18:27 <surrealillusion> werd

18:27 <surrealillusion> enjoy

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18:44 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

18:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 74.6F / 23.7C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph in the evening.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 70s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. (1 more message)

18:44 <wdsmia> &more

18:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 10:00 PM CDT on June 20, 2008;

18:48 <xcamel> still above water Doug?

18:48 <wdsmia> so far so good

18:48 <xcamel> I was beginning to wonder..

18:49 <xcamel> and 'lucky you'

18:49 <wdsmia> lol

18:50 <wdsmia> we got lucky

18:50 <wdsmia> all it would have taken was one fish fart to over top the leeve

18:51 <xcamel> that break was east/south of you?

18:52 <CoderForLife> back

18:52 <wdsmia> north east on me

18:52 <wdsmia> err of

18:52 <xcamel> ah..

18:52 <CoderForLife> HOA guy just left

18:52 <xcamel> big storms here... all went south of me...

18:52 <CoderForLife> he was appalled

18:52 <wdsmia> I live in West Des Moines... I know better than to live around there

18:52 <xcamel> I bet... first visit?

18:53 <CoderForLife> he's going to bring out more HOA people to see it

18:53 <CoderForLife> yes first time

18:53 <xcamel> about damned time...

18:53 <CoderForLife> he wants to grin the president of the HOA, a board member who owns a construction company, and an attorney

18:53 <CoderForLife> grin -> bring

18:54 <CoderForLife> the attorney had a sinkhole in his backyard from construction debris

18:54 <CoderForLife> he sued the home builder on his own time, and won $150,000

18:55 <CoderForLife> so there's precedent in the neighborhood with this builder

18:56 <CoderForLife> the HOA guy's house is situated like mine, and he's now sweating bullets

18:56 <CoderForLife> he's even talking how the HOA could help financially

18:56 <CoderForLife> I don't expect that would get much traction

18:57 <CoderForLife> I'll be hosting a few more visits this week, it looks like, but it's good to see the HOA stepping up

18:57 <CoderForLife> well, enough about that

18:57 <wdsmia> maybe the Attorney will take it on pro bono LOL

18:58 <CoderForLife> hope springs external

18:58 <CoderForLife> I'd hate to spend the wall money on an attorney, and lose

18:59 <CoderForLife> no money and now all

18:59 <CoderForLife> no wall

18:59 <CoderForLife> did your cold start go well wdsmia?

19:00 <wdsmia> about how I expected

19:01 <wdsmia> some good some bad and some just strange

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19:07 <wdsmia> san and orical came back with no problems still some proplems with the data excange server and gray scale matcher

19:08 <wdsmia> err Oracle

19:09 <wdsmia> tired fingers and brain

19:09 <CoderForLife> I bet

19:09 <CoderForLife> you a one-man show, or did you have some help?

19:10 <xcamel> cfl - did you catch the WSJ story on Lufthansa and their vintage planes?

19:10 <CoderForLife> no

19:11 <CoderForLife> today's WSJ?

19:11 <wdsmia> help lots of it... would have lost less data if they would have stayed the hell away

19:11 <xcamel> yes

19:11 <CoderForLife> lol wdsmia - I was wondering along those lines - too many cooks in the kitchen

19:12 <xcamel> they have a super connie, and a junkers that they maintain and fly

19:12 <CoderForLife> I have the print edition downstairs - I'll look at it in a bit

19:12 <wdsmia> yep so next few weeks double checking and recovery

19:13 <xcamel> how did your emergency systems hold up?

19:15 <wdsmia> main site fine I still may have some equipment at the remotes filtering water though the cpu fans

19:17 <wdsmia> 2 sites I know are under water and havent been able to contact anyone to see if they moved the equipment before...

19:21 <PovAddict> yay, whole country politically on fire

19:22 <CoderForLife> USA 1968?

19:26 <wdsmia> 68 was a strange year... remember moving back to the USA in the middle of it

19:27 <PovAddict> http://www.tn.com.ar/ <- people peacefully protesting

19:27 <Romulus> Title: TN.com.ar (at www.tn.com.ar)

19:29 <CoderForLife> quick, buy stock in pots and pans

19:29 * KathrynM is back (gone 11:10:18)

19:29 <CoderForLife> .. and flags ..

19:29 <wdsmia> *lo Kathryn

19:30 <KathrynM> mornin all

19:30 <CoderForLife> ..and school teachers in Korea..

19:30 <xcamel> and ammo...

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19:30 <xcamel> or lawyers..

19:30 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

19:30 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

19:30 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Partly Cloudy. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Overcast. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Overcast. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Rain. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 F. / 18 C.;

19:31 <xcamel> lol - 62F and 87% humidity here...

19:31 <CoderForLife> .. and Spanish dictionaries ..

19:31 <CoderForLife> .. fast ones ..

19:31 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:31 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 74.7F / 23.7C | Humidity: 40% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the lower 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Gusts up to 20 mph in the evening.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. High in the upper 70s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. (1 more message)

19:31 <efc> moo X

19:32 <wdsmia> &more

19:32 <Romulus> wdsmia: West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 10:00 PM CDT on June 20, 2008;

19:32 <efc> You would have enjoyed our 82 strikes/min and 3-5 inches rain in a few hours last night

19:32 <CoderForLife> looks like Times Square on New Years Eve, PovAddict

19:33 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Argentina#The_recovery

19:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5d7fu6> (at en.wikipedia.org)

19:33 <PovAddict> *maybe* the last paragraphs explain some of the recent mess

19:34 <PovAddict> there have been foreign journalists calling "important" argentine journalists to ask what the hell was going on because nobody understood it

19:35 <CoderForLife> that's a somewhat rough English translation

19:35 <CoderForLife> "aliments"??

19:36 <PovAddict> what the... lol

19:36 <CoderForLife> alimentary canal is your mouth, throat and stomach

19:36 <Soul_keeper> bla

19:36 <xcamel> we were up near 200 strikes earlier..

19:40 <PovAddict> I fixed a few words there

19:41 <xcamel> in a nutshell?

19:41 <PovAddict> xcamel: I'm not sure if *I* understand enough of what's going on to make a proper summary...

19:43 <CoderForLife> I'll refresh - I think the closest to "aliments" would be "foodstuffs"

19:43 <CoderForLife> yeah - you caught commercialization

19:45 <PovAddict> google translate dictionary didn't recognize "comercialización" at all...

19:45 <PovAddict> ugh, things literally on fire (again)

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19:46 <jackygrahamez__> hi

19:46 <jackygrahamez__> lucky I missed the rain

19:46 <PovAddict> (fields)

19:46 <jackygrahamez__> &wx 20001

19:46 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Temperature: 69.6F / 20.9C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph...becoming west around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Highs (1 more message)

19:48 <jackygrahamez__> looks like we are going to shut down Gitmo

19:48 <CoderForLife> Club Gitmo

19:49 <xcamel> sure... gimme a club.... (and make it a big one)

19:49 <jackygrahamez__> you can check right in...

19:50 <jackygrahamez__> but you aint neeever leave

19:50 <efc> Welcome to the Hotel Cali, err, nevermind

19:55 <xcamel> that sounds more like DC..

19:56 <efc> Is there some way to convince Boinc to give me more than 3 hours of S@H work? I've fiddled with the account settings and they seem to have no effect

19:56 <efc> "Computer is connected to the Internet about every " and "Maintain enough work for an additional "

20:02 <efc> a-ha, there's a log msg that says "won't finish in time, computer on 100% of time, boinc on 0% of that

20:05 <efc> Boinc is on more than 0% of the time..

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20:15 <xcamel> looks like a couple more small storms headed this way...

20:15 <xcamel> the hudson valley got hammered... second time in a week..

20:16 <efc> edited client_state.xml directly, seemed to have worked

20:17 <CoderForLife> I'm going to crawl away

20:17 <CoderForLife> cya folks

20:17 <xcamel> or slither?

20:17 <xcamel> :-0

20:18 <CoderForLife> more like go into a fetal position

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20:18 <xcamel> laterz..

20:18 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146793      this memory has me druling

20:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/583ewe> (at www.newegg.com)

20:19 <KathrynM> I'm off to sing stupid children's songs

20:19 * KathrynM sighs

20:19 * KathrynM is away: I may still exist in an alternate reality...

20:21 <efc> Doesn't seem like that much for 4 gigs

20:21 <xcamel> have fun..

20:21 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Those are odd heatspreaders for Mushkin...

20:21 <Soul_keeper> 30% off for the rebate

20:22 <Soul_keeper> my last two memory purchases have been mushkin, they treat me well

20:22 <MTughan> Yeah, but that's not Mushkin

20:22 <MTughan> ..'s usual heatspreader.

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20:22 <MTughan> http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=013419&cid=RAM.346.307 (Ignore the price)

20:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/65vvgj> (at www.canadacomputers.com)

20:23 <MTughan> The only difference between the two is the Newegg's are 4-4-4-12 timings while the CC's are 4-3-3-10 timings.

20:24 <MTughan> Frankly, why these aren't more expensive is a question to me... http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=018351&cid=RAM.346.754

20:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5zjy2v> (at www.canadacomputers.com)

20:24 <MTughan> DDR2-1066 compared to DDR2-800, and 5-5-5-15 timings compared to 4-3-3-10 timings. But I'm getting off track...

20:26 <MTughan> Whoa... It's a new system: http://www.mushkin.com/doc/features/ascent/

20:26 <Romulus> Title: Ascent - Revolutionary eVCI Technology has Arrived (at www.mushkin.com)

20:26 <MTughan> I don't remember that being on their site just a few days, so shows how fast Newegg is...

20:27 <MTughan> &monologue

20:27 <Romulus> MTughan: Your current monologue is at least 9 lines long.

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20:29 <MTughan> I'd probably hold off until I see how efficient the cooler is, but that's me...

20:33 <xcamel> you need an endothermic reactor...

20:36 <Soul_keeper> :)

20:37 <Soul_keeper> i had a guest

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20:40 <Soul_keeper> so for just over 200 bucks i could max out my board with high quality mem

20:41 <Soul_keeper> lol i payed 380 bucks for 1GB of ddr1 back when i got that,  now 8GB is like half that price

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21:15 <surrealillusion> power outages are ghey

21:15 <surrealillusion> to the max.

21:42 <xcamel> and dark.

21:52 <xcamel> laterz..

21:54 <quail> morning all, how are we all?

22:01 <surrealillusion> burnt out.

22:01 <surrealillusion> and it's only monday

22:03 <PovAddict> it was a holiday here

22:03 <PovAddict> but tomorrow... w#$%

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22:05 <Soul_keeper> just forked out 465 bucks for my carb :(

22:07 <Soul_keeper> coulda got a quad core and 2GB of mem for that ...

22:07 <Soul_keeper> 4~

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22:11 <surrealillusion> carb?

22:11 <surrealillusion> car?

22:12 <surrealillusion> and yeah that would have been a q6600 and 4 gigs of ram here

22:12 <surrealillusion> or just a q9450

22:18 <Soul_keeper> carburetor

22:18 <Soul_keeper> i already payed 300 for the aftermarket carb 5 months ago, but it's not smog legal

22:18 <Soul_keeper> so that'd basically be a top end vid card or something

22:19 <surrealillusion> ouch

22:45 <Soul_keeper> ohhh no, cpu just hit 70c and climbing, i'm sweating bullets now

22:45 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

22:45 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 69.4F / 20.8C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 59 to 68. Light winds.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 81 to 86 in the western (1 more message)

22:45 <Soul_keeper> wrong !!!

22:47 <surrealillusion> wow how warm is it where you are?

22:47 <surrealillusion> my core 0 hit a high of 54C

22:47 <PovAddict> 20C? that's nothing

22:47 <Soul_keeper> my entire forehead is covered in sweat and my shirt is wet, it ain't 69f

22:47 <surrealillusion> wth

22:48 <PovAddict> &weather buenos aires

22:48 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 50% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 11:00 PM ART; Clear. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Clear. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Clear. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Clear. Low:42 F. / 6 C.; Clear. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Overcast. Low:46 F. / 8 C.;

22:48 <Soul_keeper> guess it's just "indoor heat"

22:48 * Soul_keeper opens some doors/windows

22:48 <surrealillusion> &weather ottawa

22:48 <Romulus> surrealillusion: Temperature: 61°F / 16°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EDT; Tonight - A few showers with thunderstorms ending this evening then cloudy periods. Low 11C(52F).; Tuesday - Cloudy with sunny periods. 60 percent chance of showers late in the morning and in the afternoon with the risk of (1 more message)

22:48 <PovAddict> time to go get into bed I guess

22:49 <surrealillusion> 16C outside heh

22:50 <MTughan> &weather Brampton

22:50 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 63°F / 17°C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM EDT; Tonight - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers this evening. Risk of a thunderstorm. Clearing near midnight. Low 9C(48F).; Tuesday - Sunny with cloudy periods. Becoming cloudy with sunny periods in the afternoon with 40 (1 more message)

22:50 <MTughan> Ouch on the humidity...

22:50 <PovAddict> cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature

22:50 <PovAddict> temperature:             19 C

22:50 <PovAddict> pretty accurate I guess

22:51 <PovAddict> my desk thermometer broke so I'm using mobo temperature as replacement :P

22:51 <Soul_keeper> temperature:             68 C

22:51 <PovAddict> wth

22:51 <Soul_keeper> wth ?

22:51 <PovAddict> I guess mine is measuring mobo and yours CPU

22:52 <Soul_keeper> yeah probably the nb temp

22:52 <PovAddict> or

22:52 <surrealillusion> my sys temp is 35C

22:52 <PovAddict> it's actually not C

22:52 <surrealillusion> and my cpu temp says 29C

22:52 <Soul_keeper> my sys is 36c  i got really good cooling on it tho

22:52 <PovAddict> surrealillusion: watercooling?

22:52 <Soul_keeper> my psu temp is a staggering 54

22:52 <surrealillusion> nope

22:52 <surrealillusion> air cooled

22:52 <surrealillusion> =]

22:53 <surrealillusion> antec three hundred case

22:53 <PovAddict> no way your CPU is at 29C

22:53 <surrealillusion> 3 x120 antec fans

22:53 <surrealillusion> 1 x 140 antec fan

22:53 <surrealillusion> core temps are at 48C-46C

22:53 <surrealillusion> Q6600 OC'd to 3ghz

22:53 <PovAddict> 46C sounds more like it

22:53 <surrealillusion> with a stock intel hsf i'd be running closer to 60-65

22:53 <surrealillusion> in my old case

22:53 <surrealillusion> *shudder*

22:54 <MTughan> What are you using for a cooler?

22:54 <surrealillusion> ocz Vendetta2

22:54 <surrealillusion> since I can't get the xigmatek 2183

22:54 <surrealillusion> no shop in Ottawa carries them

22:54 <MTughan> We'll have to see how it compares to a Zalman 9500 when I get a Q6600...

22:55 <surrealillusion> www.frostytech.com

22:55 <Soul_keeper> Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme     here

22:55 <MTughan> Stable at 60C at full load with a S478 P4 Prescott OC'd to 3.2GHz.

22:55 <MTughan> And this sucker is hot...

22:55 <PovAddict> bed ->

22:55 <MTughan> Bye.

22:56 <surrealillusion> g'nite

22:56 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, sell it

22:57 <Soul_keeper> P4's are worthless now

22:57 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:57 <MTughan> I thought you meant the cooler...

22:57 <MTughan> There's not a whole lot I can do about it until I get a new core comp though.

22:59 <surrealillusion> i still got one more mobo to pair a CPU with

22:59 <surrealillusion> and it's the asus p5k-vm hdmi

23:00 <Soul_keeper> not bad

23:00 <MTughan> So on the high settings, the Vendetta2 is about 10db quieter than the 9500...

23:01 <Soul_keeper> i have a  p5l-mx  for my heatless box

23:01 <MTughan> Wow, the 9700 is even louder...

23:01 <MTughan> I have to consider this, as I'm going to be OC'ing and am going for a very quiet computer too...

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23:02 <MTughan> Problem is I'm speccing this out for a grad/birthday gift, so I can't push the price sky high.

23:02 <MTughan> Already just under $900 for a new CPU, MB, RAM, and GPU.

23:02 <Soul_keeper> http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=194&l4=0&model=1320&modelmenu=1      same thing you got just older chipset

23:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2266wv> (at www.asus.com)

23:02 <surrealillusion> heh i did

23:02 <surrealillusion> but tried to save money where i could

23:03 <surrealillusion> i spent probably a grand in a last month

23:03 <Soul_keeper> i have a zalman cooler on that board, whisper quiet

23:03 <surrealillusion> but got two new pc's out of it

23:03 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: I have a P4C800-E Deluxe if that helps.

23:03 <Soul_keeper> i have an   abit  ip35-e  in my main system

23:04 <MTughan> I plan to be keeping this computer for 4-5 years because I'm going to university (Carleton ;) ) and gonna be cash strapped. Want something to last.

23:04 <surrealillusion> i've got a asus p5k-deluxe wifi for my gaming board, an asus p5w-dh deluxe for my linux file server (which I'm xchatting on)

23:05 <MTughan> Looking at an Asus P5E. X38 chipset.

23:05 <Soul_keeper> that's ddr3 right ?

23:05 <surrealillusion> p5e3

23:05 <surrealillusion> is ddr3

23:05 <MTughan> DDR2.

23:05 <surrealillusion> i think

23:06 <surrealillusion> i heard the performance increase isn't worth the money for the ram

23:06 <Soul_keeper> i'm concerned that all the 775 boards out are gonna have a limited upgrade path, something tells me 8 core chips won't work in them

23:06 <MTughan> No, it's not. That's why I'm want Mushkin DDR2 Redline PC2-8000 RAM.

23:06 <Soul_keeper> lol

23:07 <MTughan> I hope not... That would mean the second time I'd have bought a computer just before the CPU technology was outdated...

23:07 <Soul_keeper> the redline series is overpriced imo,  the slower stuff will oc to that level easily

23:07 <MTughan> Bought this probably about 2 months before 775 came in.

23:07 <MTughan> I compared it to XP2-1066. OC'd to a higher level with less voltage and tighter timings.

23:07 <Soul_keeper> intel is about to release the x48 chipset or whatever

23:07 <MTughan> And cheaper than the XP2-1066.

23:08 <MTughan> X48's already out...

23:08 <Soul_keeper> did they say it will support 8 cores ?

23:08 <MTughan> This is what I'm looking at: http://www.canadacomputers.com/index.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016083&cid=MB.157

23:08 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6zhhmk> (at www.canadacomputers.com)

23:08 <MTughan> No idea. I just know I've seen Asus MBs with X48 chipsets.

23:09 <Soul_keeper> that site don't carry abit motherboards  hmmm

23:10 <MTughan> Is Abit good quality?

23:10 <surrealillusion> mmm Abit BP6

23:10 <surrealillusion> between that an the CUV4X-DLS

23:11 <surrealillusion> best dual P3 boards

23:11 <surrealillusion> i miss the day of old school smp

23:11 <MTughan> What about Skulltrail? Dual quad-core Xeons.

23:12 <surrealillusion> mmm 8 core procesing

23:12 <surrealillusion> ive seen some of those macs with 8 cores

23:12 <surrealillusion> pretty sick

23:13 <MTughan> Yeah, those are the same setup.

23:13 <MTughan> Maybe different specific processors, but still dual quad-core Xeons.

23:13 <Soul_keeper> i've had better experience with abit than asus

23:13 <Soul_keeper> both good tho

23:17 <MTughan> Looking over a review for the Xigmatek HDT-S1283, which I believe it said that the Vendetta2 was based on. Very good performance, with 35dB. Should be possible to replace that with an even quiter fan...

23:18 <MTughan> Just 20C over ambient with a 150W load.

23:19 <surrealillusion> not bad

23:19 <Soul_keeper> i like thermalright heatsinks, they can be hard to find in stock at places sometimes tho

23:19 <MTughan> Yeah. The site there carries Thermaltake but not Thermalright.

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23:20 <surrealillusion> whoo

23:20 <MTughan> Anyway, with that kind of performance for only $35, that's pretty darn good.

23:20 <surrealillusion> just broke the 200k mark in seti

23:20 <MTughan> I think it's a little heavier than the 9500, but only by 15-25g.

23:20 <MTughan> Congrats... I think I'm working on 130K on E@H.

23:21 <MTughan> With just a P4 and a Core Duo though, I consider that pretty good.

23:21 <surrealillusion> i managed most of the 200k with a q6600 and a be2350

23:21 <MTughan> And just the P4 crunching right now.

23:21 <wdsmia_> 10,390,194.26

23:22 <MTughan> Looks like I broke the 125K mark in Einstein today actually...

23:22 <MTughan> Nope, yesterday.

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23:22 <MTughan> 'lo Doug

23:23 <Soul_keeper> 158k for einstein here   486k for seti  366k for wcg

23:23 <wdsmia> *lo Michael

23:23 <wdsmia> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=&id=c0f16ac6eb30094fb940891c66b2d376

23:23 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2us2xy> (at boincstats.com)

23:25 <Soul_keeper> you got 10x the total credit i do

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23:27 <wdsmia> in the top 1000 of all the projects  I crunch

23:27 <MTughan> Yes Doug, you whoop all our asses in BOINC. How many times have we heard now?

23:27 <wdsmia> http://www.boincstats.com/signature/user_100947.gif

23:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5dglqj> (at www.boincstats.com)

23:27 <Soul_keeper> it's not showing your hosts

23:28 <wdsmia> maybe 3 or 4 :P

23:29 <wdsmia> not showing the hosts... well I dont want to upset MTughan

23:30 <MTughan> Don't worry, I'm looking over a headset.

23:31 <surrealillusion> lol

23:32 <surrealillusion> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=e9517b57e31f6cb3ff6b041e8900fee3

23:32 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/59wggu> (at boincstats.com)

23:33 <MTughan> Heh, I still have more credit than you overall...

23:33 <MTughan> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=991407

23:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6lr9g9> (at boincstats.com)

23:33 <wdsmia> Ah stuck with seti

23:33 <surrealillusion> yup

23:33 <surrealillusion> haven't jumped to anything else yet

23:33 <MTughan> Although for time, you're killing me.

23:33 <surrealillusion> only been crunching for the past 2.5 months

23:34 <surrealillusion> i did do seti classic ... but forgot the account i used years ago

23:34 <MTughan> Took me over a year to get there, although most of that was with only the P4 at stock speeds. The Core Duo got me really far...

23:34 <Soul_keeper> i tore seti classic up lol,  can you still check old stats ?

23:34 <MTughan> I've found that, at least for Mac and Linux x86, Einstein gives lots of points.

23:34 <MTughan> credits*

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23:35 <MTughan> Heh... The graphs are the bottom are all solid blue. Nice blue though...

23:35 <wdsmia> lol

23:36 <surrealillusion> still gotta figure out what i'm going to do with that sun fire v120 server ....

23:37 * wdsmia heads for the pillow server

23:37 <wdsmia> &nn

23:37 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

23:37 <MTughan> Not sure if anyone's really interested... But I have an OOo spreadsheet of what I'm speccing. http://michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org/New%20Computer%20Spec.ods

23:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6rtwc2> (at michaelsprogramming.home.dyndns.org)

23:38 <MTughan> Bye.

23:38 <MTughan> If anyone does open it, ignore the first page. That's obsolete now, I've stopped updating it.

23:41 <Soul_keeper> http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_42884.html            lol there we go, my little crew from seti classic

23:41 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6agkg8> (at seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu)

23:50 <Soul_keeper> the winner of seti classic was some chinese person

23:51 <Soul_keeper> http://seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/venue_3.html

23:51 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5esh75> (at seticlassic.ssl.berkeley.edu)

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