IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-06-21

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00:06 <efc> I think dairy queen contaminated my mocha moo-latte with hazelnut

00:10 <Soul_keeper> i'll take it

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02:15 <efc> seem to have hit a bottleneck on the seti@home fpga idea

02:16 <efc> can't do more than about 133 million adds/sec off one memory interface

02:17 <Soul_keeper> ahhh

02:18 <Soul_keeper> use a gallon of water

02:18 <Soul_keeper> make each molecule a transister

02:19 <efc> For a little while..

02:19 <Soul_keeper> might be cheaper, easier and more powerfull to just take up coding for one of the latest vid cards

02:21 <efc> Yeah like everything else just give u

02:21 <efc> p

02:22 <efc> Give up on this, give up on that

02:22 <Soul_keeper> lol

02:23 <Soul_keeper> welp time for me to give up for the day and go to sleep

02:23 <Soul_keeper> cpu temp back up around 75C

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02:29 <BadBarbarian> lol i need help what is a good easy disto of linux for a noob

02:33 <Soul_keeper> slackware

02:34 <Soul_keeper> the biggest noob i've ever seen on irc just installed it a few weeks ago, and he's having no problems

02:37 <BadBarbarian> Thanx Bud

02:38 <BadBarbarian> my boss want a duel boot x64 xp &x64 linux

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04:47 <CoderForLife> morning

05:03 <CoderForLife> breakfast   brb

05:08 <CoderForLife> b

05:08 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 62.6F / 17.0C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 50s. (1 more message)

05:11 <CoderForLife> &more

05:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Sunday - Partly sunny in the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

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06:11 <Immundus> do I have to compile boinc myself to get it working properly?

06:19 <CoderForLife> sounds like a question that you really don't want the answer to...

06:21 <Immundus> just deleted my state files from yesterday the on from the debian repository

06:26 <Immundus> or better put it probably didnt create them in the first place

06:31 <Immundus> Ill use my old client at least that one works ...

06:33 <CoderForLife> it's always good to have a Plan B

06:34 <Immundus> well first lets see how 6.2 spares

06:35 <Immundus> if it runs nicely I might even try it on my troublemaking mac that has refused to work with any client so far

06:36 <CoderForLife> Macs march to the beat of a different drummer

06:36 <Immundus> but it has the same libs so there shouldnt be any problems

06:37 <Immundus> shouldnt hehe

06:37 <CoderForLife> .. and I didn't say if that was a good or bad thing =)

06:41 <Immundus> hmm a typo in the current release someone ought to fix that ...

06:46 <Immundus> nope libs in debian too old :(

06:55 <CoderForLife> off to the store = bbl

06:55 <Immundus> cu

07:29 <xcamel> plunk >>

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08:01 <xcamel> &wx 12074

08:01 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 56.6F / 13.7C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Patchy fog this morning. Partly sunny. Highs around 80. South winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - A chance of thunderstorms. Showers (1 more message)

08:01 <xcamel> &more

08:01 <Romulus> xcamel: likely in the morning... then occasional showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.;

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08:19 <xcamel> what is the deal with 6.3x?

08:19 <xcamel> file changes?

08:24 <xcamel>^

08:24 <Romulus> <> (at

08:24 <xcamel> phoenix and the vanishing ice..

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09:23 <CoderForLife> back

09:24 <quail> howdy CoderForLife, how are you?

09:24 <quail> &wx ypad

09:24 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.57in / 1035hPa | Conditions: Shallow Fog | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h | Updated: 10:30 PM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Clear. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Clear. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. Low:41 F. / 5 C.;

09:25 <CoderForLife> plink, plank, plunk:,,

09:26 <CoderForLife> hi quail

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09:49 <CoderForLife> morning Doug

09:52 <wdsmia> mornin Don

09:57 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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12:02 <xcamel> back again...

12:02 <xcamel> for a bit..

12:05 <BadBarbarian> "lo xcamel

12:05 <xcamel> 'lo BB

12:05 <xcamel> hows things on the north rim...

12:06 <BadBarbarian> South rim Warm

12:06 <xcamel> close enough..

12:06 <BadBarbarian> wx 86046

12:06 <xcamel> I guess it's hot as hell there lately...

12:06 <BadBarbarian> no

12:06 <xcamel> &wx 86046

12:07 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 84.0F / 28.9C | Humidity: 14% | Pressure: 23.83in / 806.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8.3mph / 13.4km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 86 to 94. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph late in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 49 to 57. Southwest winds around 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs 82 to (1 more message)

12:07 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

12:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 84.0F / 28.9C | Humidity: 14% | Pressure: 23.83in / 806.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 8.3mph / 13.4km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs 86 to 94. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph late in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 49 to 57. Southwest winds around 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs (1 more message)

12:07 <xcamel> lol

12:07 <BadBarbarian> &more

12:07 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: 82 to 90. Light winds becoming southwest around 15 mph in the afternoon.;

12:08 <BadBarbarian> very high fire danger with humidty below 15%

12:16 <wdsmia> %wx 50319

12:17 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

12:17 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 80.7F / 27.1C | Humidity: 36% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Rest of Today - Sunny. Scattered thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the lower 80s. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 30 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may (1 more message)

12:17 <wdsmia> &more

12:17 <Romulus> wdsmia: produce gusty wind and small hail. Low in the upper 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Partly sunny. High in the lower 80s. North wind near 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 7:00 PM CDT on June 24, 2008;

12:25 <MTughan__> Rebooting into Windows to play a game...

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13:30 <CoderForLife> back

13:31 <CoderForLife> we were all outside, beating back the jungle

13:32 <CoderForLife> 3-1/2 hours

13:33 <CoderForLife> the jungle has suffered a tremendous set-back in the jaws of the hedge trimmer

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13:58 <XATRIX> hi....i'm using gentoo linux, and i try to attach me to the SETI@Home project

13:58 <XATRIX> how can i do this ? Can somebody help me ?

14:00 <desti> have you installed boinc?

14:00 <XATRIX> yes... i have

14:01 <XATRIX> i'm doing everything as mentioned in

14:01 <Romulus> Title: Boinc - Gentoo Linux Wiki (at

14:01 <XATRIX> yes...

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14:01 <XATRIX> but when i do the /etc/init.d/boinc attach

14:01 <XATRIX> it tells me

14:02 <XATRIX>

14:02 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at

14:02 <XATRIX> take a loop please

14:02 <XATRIX> *look

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14:03 <XATRIX> what exactly mentioned under "Account Key" ?

14:03 <desti> account key is what you get in the mail

14:03 <XATRIX> my boinc Login ?

14:03 <XATRIX> or what ?

14:03 <Romulus> or what are my benefits of contributing, XATRIX

14:04 <desti> do you have allready created an account @ seti?

14:04 <XATRIX> emm....i was emailed only to confirm my registration

14:05 <XATRIX> BOINCstats BAM ID54457

14:05 <XATRIX> is it what you asking for ?

14:06 <desti> you need an account from the seti page

14:06 <XATRIX> ok...seems like i have one

14:07 <desti> the easiest way is simply to start boinc and use the boinc gui

14:08 <XATRIX> i have no X server on my system

14:08 <desti> ah, ok

14:09 <XATRIX> it seems that i've found the key

14:09 <XATRIX> should it look like hexadecimal sequence ?

14:10 <desti>

14:10 <Romulus> Title: Forgot your password? (at

14:10 <XATRIX>

14:10 <Romulus> Title: Nopaste - No description (at

14:10 <XATRIX> take a look please

14:11 <desti> hmm...

14:11 <XATRIX> is this Account Key ?

14:11 <desti> try to start boinc direct without the start script and use -attach_project

14:12 <desti> boinc -attach_project ACC_KEY

14:12 <Romulus> Title: SETI@home (at

14:12 <XATRIX> ok

14:15 <XATRIX> it seems to start downloading something :)

14:15 <XATRIX> is it right ?

14:16 <desti> it will show a message when starting work

14:18 <XATRIX> hm....seems it's to loading my CPU

14:18 <XATRIX> but

14:18 <XATRIX> it was starting from the command line

14:19 <XATRIX> i want to start in as service

14:19 <XATRIX> i mean init.d/boinc start

14:19 <desti> stop it an try, should be working now

14:20 <XATRIX> ok

14:22 <desti> if you like, you could also join my team :-)

14:22 <Romulus> <> (at

14:26 <XATRIX>'s pretty good :)

14:26 <XATRIX> how can i join ?

14:28 <desti> sign in and then go to the team page and there should be a link to join

14:28 <Romulus> Title: Forgot your password? (at

14:41 <XATRIX> what are the benefits of joining the commands ?

14:48 * xcamel yawns

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14:58 <XATRIX> desti> can i use gui to connect to boinc_client ?

15:05 <XATRIX> strange , i can't connect to my client

15:05 <XATRIX> via gui :(

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15:19 <CoderForLife> back

15:19 <efc> moo

15:20 <CoderForLife> moo

15:20 * CoderForLife spills Coke Zero all over himself

15:20 <CoderForLife> dang   brb

15:23 * CoderForLife returns with a dry t-shirt

15:23 <CoderForLife> back

15:24 <efc> Aww we were enjoying the CFL wet t-shirt contest

15:26 <CoderForLife> I seriously doubt that

15:27 <efc> With all the coke zero, your figure is great, though your teeth are terrible

15:27 <CoderForLife> actually both are in serious decline

15:28 <efc> I'm getting some leg muscle now with all the running but can't shake the tummy fat

15:28 <efc> I could skip dairy queen but that would be drastic

15:28 <CoderForLife> that would be the last resort

15:29 <CoderForLife>

15:29 <Romulus> Title: Life in space? Japanese astronomers hunt aliens - Space- (at

15:29 <efc> running a mile is only like 100 calories.. thats like 2 cookies

15:30 <efc> So I run about 4 cookies a day

15:30 <CoderForLife> If I ran a mile, I'd toss both my cookies

15:30 <efc> It starts to feel good after a while

15:30 <CoderForLife> cookie tossing?

15:30 <efc> the running

15:31 <CoderForLife> Ok - you run, and I'll watch and feel good

15:31 <efc> did around 26:30 last night, maybe 3 miles, on a nice national forest road

15:32 <CoderForLife> based on the movie "Dreamcatcher", if you see all the wildlife running the other way, I suggest you go with the flow

15:33 <efc> Notes

15:34 <CoderForLife> Notes?  I wouldn't fiddle around... =)

15:34 <efc> err noted

15:40 <BB_Laptop> convert 1000 lb to kg

15:41 <CoderForLife> Emperor Joseph II to Mozart in "Amadeus": 'My dear young man, don't take it too hard. Your work is ingenious. It's quality work. And there are simply too many notes, that's all. Just cut a few and it will be perfect.'

15:41 <CoderForLife> &math convert 1000 lb to kg

15:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 453.59237

15:41 <BB_Laptop> thanx

15:42 <CoderForLife> np =)

15:44 <efc> Can you get a listing of all completed WUs for a host?

15:45 <efc> S@H web page gives what looks like the last week or two

15:45 <CoderForLife> hmm, dunno about "all"

15:45 <efc> Yeah, its a tall order

15:46 <CoderForLife> tall always includes all

15:46 <efc> I got a program that maps the WUs in the sky, but only the ones since I installed it.

15:46 <efc>

15:48 <CoderForLife> quick, I see an alien waving up there in Cassiopeia

15:48 <CoderForLife> oh, that's outside the range of sky that Arecibo patrols

15:49 <CoderForLife> he's holding up a sign..

15:50 <CoderForLife> it says..

15:50 <CoderForLife> Moo

15:53 <efc> Thats why SETI didn't pick them up. no "I".

16:01 <CoderForLife> iMoo?  They are Apple fans?

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16:09 <leifdk1978> hey guys any on running burp project

16:10 <leifdk1978> any one

16:11 <leifdk1978> any one running burp

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16:26 <CoderForLife> not I, leifdk1978

16:26 <leifdk1978> ok i joined setti insted

16:27 <CoderForLife> some folks here are undoubtedly running burp

16:28 <leifdk1978> yeah just could not get any date from it all day

16:29 <CoderForLife> desperate and dateless, huh?

16:29 <leifdk1978> been that way for years :)

16:29 <CoderForLife> lol

16:29 <leifdk1978> :)

16:30 <leifdk1978> well maybe i could work for 2 dif project    the burp only have 5 wu atm

16:31 <CoderForLife> it's usually best to have a least 2, so you always have WUs

16:31 <leifdk1978> it is the sever that post that it have 5 wu not very muc

16:32 <CoderForLife> no - that's not much

16:33 <xcamel> damn... that's quite the batch of storms headed in...

16:33 <CoderForLife> you, and/or me?

16:34 <CoderForLife> hmm "Washington DC" phone call coming in

16:35 <xcamel> both... but you're going to get missed.

16:36 <CoderForLife> weather alarm just went off

16:36 <leifdk1978> wow not good

16:40 <xcamel> working out the battle of the boinc versions...

16:40 <CoderForLife> the tip of that front may reach down and smack me


16:41 <CoderForLife> a broad list of counties

16:42 <xcamel> 6.2.6 nix, 6.2.8 osx, 6.3.3 xp, 6.2.4 nix, and a few old "fivers"

16:43 <xcamel> ditto that all day here for tomorrow..

16:49 <leifdk1978> how do boinc behave on 2 dif projects

16:49 <CoderForLife> however you tell it to.. =)

16:49 <leifdk1978> ok so i can tell it to run 1 bach of units and then update when there is room

16:51 <leifdk1978> what i mean that is changing when it is done whit a wu and go for burn if any wu is there

16:51 <CoderForLife> it will alternate running WUs if you have multiple projects, start the next WU when the first one completes, and upload results and download new WUs periodically

16:51 <leifdk1978> ok that is perfect

16:51 <CoderForLife> of course =P

16:52 <leifdk1978> burp need to work up some wu and then i change to do some of theys when they have some

16:53 <CoderForLife> just join 2 or more projects, and boinc will attempt to stay busy

16:53 <leifdk1978> nice perfect

16:53 <CoderForLife> I am generally running QMC and orbit in that manner

16:54 <leifdk1978> is not familar whit those

16:55 <CoderForLife>

16:55 <Romulus> Title: QMC@HOME (at

16:55 <leifdk1978> what do they seeek

16:55 <CoderForLife>

16:55 <Romulus> Title: orbit@home (at

16:55 <CoderForLife> read the links =)

16:56 <CoderForLife> tricaric from orbit stops in here from time to time

16:56 <CoderForLife> &seen tricaric

16:56 <Romulus> CoderForLife: tricaric was last seen in #boinc 13 weeks, 0 days, 20 hours, 47 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <tricaric> there are several different WUs... some take 1 hour, some 1 week...

16:57 <CoderForLife> or not =)

16:57 <leifdk1978> strange i cant conect to local host :(

16:57 <CoderForLife> one word?  localhost?

16:57 <leifdk1978> yeah my own computer

16:57 <CoderForLife> you put in a space

16:58 <CoderForLife> localhost

16:58 <leifdk1978> and pass is needet to

16:59 <leifdk1978> just gona restart

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17:01 <leifdk1978> back

17:01 <CoderForLife> some nasty t-storm cells between me and Indy

17:08 * CoderForLife sighs

17:08 <leifdk1978> there now my boinc is bussy

17:09 <CoderForLife> there, go t all my personal finances updated in M$ Money

17:09 <CoderForLife> cool - congrats leifdk1978

17:09 <leifdk1978> yeah thanx for the advices mate

17:09 <CoderForLife> welcome to the word of BOINC =)

17:09 <CoderForLife> np  glad to help

17:09 <leifdk1978> thanx

17:10 <CoderForLife> er *world*

17:10 <leifdk1978> :) well in denmark it is kind of late

17:10 <CoderForLife> we have some others from denmark around here

17:10 <leifdk1978> nice

17:11 <CoderForLife> I think dizzie is

17:11 <CoderForLife> &seen dizzie

17:11 <Romulus> CoderForLife: dizzie was last seen in #boinc 5 days, 5 hours, 39 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <dizzie> sudo -i works :)

17:11 * CoderForLife looks at the weather radars

17:12 <leifdk1978> yeah well he wil spot me whit my name

17:12 <CoderForLife> sure

17:12 <leifdk1978> lol i got lots of wu now

17:12 <CoderForLife> xcamel - how you you see that cell in Greensburg IN tracking?

17:13 <CoderForLife> &math compute (818*2700)/2000

17:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: 'compute' is not a defined function.

17:14 <CoderForLife> &math (818*2700)/2000

17:14 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 1104.3

17:14 <CoderForLife> duh

17:14 <leifdk1978> damm it gets many workunits

17:15 <CoderForLife> phun

17:15 <CoderForLife> brb

17:15 <leifdk1978> just getting my old machine to work but cya tomorrow

17:15 <CoderForLife> ok tc

17:16 <leifdk1978> what is the credits for

17:18 <CoderForLife>

17:18 <Romulus> <> (at

17:20 <leifdk1978> thanx

17:21 <leifdk1978> i joine roseta and protine and burp

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17:40 <CoderForLife> excellent choices leifdk1978

17:52 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

17:52 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 99.7F / 37.6C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 7.2mph / 11.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 66 to 73. Winds west 15 mph in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Highs 90 to 95 in the western valleys to 99 to 104 near the foothills. Light winds becoming west 15 mph in the afternoon.; (1 more message)

17:53 <CoderForLife> Soul_keeper scores 100 on temp!

17:56 <Soul_keeper> cpu temp up to 76C

17:56 <CoderForLife> no doubt

17:56 <CoderForLife> summer is the enemy of BOINC

17:57 <Soul_keeper> i think my system will crash around 80c

18:00 <CoderForLife> or melt

18:01 <Soul_keeper> i don't even care, if it melts i'll just upgrade

18:01 <Soul_keeper> i got 3 of the most powerfull fans on the market coming thru ups wednesday

18:03 * CoderForLife studies the weather radar

18:03 <CoderForLife> I believe the rain intends to get here

18:04 <Soul_keeper> gonna bump up from 2500rpm to 4000rpm

18:04 <CoderForLife> A hurricane

18:04 <CoderForLife> I just hope the incoming air is cool

18:04 <Soul_keeper> nice

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18:21 <CoderForLife> here comes the gust front

18:27 <CoderForLife> ah, some serious thunder

18:27 <Soul_keeper> hang out on the roof

18:27 <Soul_keeper> you got a laptop right ?

18:28 <CoderForLife> yes

18:33 <PovAddict> leifdk1978: the main improvement of BOINC over SETI classic is letting you have multiple projects :)

18:37 <CoderForLife> wb PovAddict

18:57 <CoderForLife> first wave passing by - no severe stuff, just some heavy rain

18:57 <CoderForLife> lots of thunder

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19:20 <Rookie_69> Hmm... Apparently, Sip-n-puff technology only works when the battery is charged up... No matter... Everybody who wanted to go out got out for a sail of some sort.

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19:27 <Rookie_69> One of the Martin 16 sailboats was found to be split from arse to teakettle... or at least all the way across the transom, so we didn't launch it.

19:30 <CoderForLife> hello Glenn

19:30 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

19:31 <Rookie_69> ... Sail Able Nova Scotia barbecruise was today...

19:33 <Rookie_69> ... and we didn't lose any wheelchairs overboard... this year.

19:42 * CoderForLife goes in search of food

19:42 <CoderForLife> bbiab

20:03 <quail> morning all

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20:06 <quail> &wx ypad

20:06 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 52°F / 11°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.60in / 1036hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 9:30 AM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Clear. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Clear. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. Low:41 F. / 5 C.;

20:08 <CoderForLife> back

20:08 <quail> CoderForLife: howdy and wb

20:09 <CoderForLife> hi quail - thx

20:09 <quail> CoderForLife: look at my new PC cranking out the seti WUs >>>

20:09 <Romulus> <> (at

20:10 <quail> CoderForLife: I am averaging 2 WUs an hour :-)

20:18 * Soul_keeper drinks his 64oz double gulp

20:20 <quail> what is that?

20:20 <Romulus> or what drives many of the ATA crowd

20:23 <CoderForLife> CPU measured in SETIs/hour

20:23 <PovAddict> lol

20:25 <Soul_keeper>

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20:26 <Soul_keeper> my camera sucks for stuff like that

20:26 <wdsmia> asks Soul_keeper to please watch his or her language Thanks, your friendly channel op.

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21:13 <Soul_keeper>

21:13 <Romulus> <> (at

21:16 <quail> Soul_keeper: what version linux you running there?

21:17 <Soul_keeper>

21:17 <PovAddict> gkrellm?

21:18 <Soul_keeper> yeah :)

21:20 <CoderForLife> nytol

21:20 <quail> <<< my laptop

21:20 <Romulus> <> (at

21:22 <Soul_keeper> nice

21:26 <quail>

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22:11 <Soul_keeper> kde in debian ?

22:12 <PovAddict> looks like gnome to me; with the bar on top

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22:29 <quail> PovAddict: yeah I am running gnome

22:29 <quail> Soul_keeper: I will never run kde

22:30 <Soul_keeper> good

22:30 <Soul_keeper> i hate kde, and gnome anymore

22:30 <Soul_keeper> just bloated windows clones

22:30 * quail just helped friend setup optimised boinc and seti client on his windows box

22:31 <Soul_keeper> i made the switch to xfce, can't say i have any complaints yet, but of course i run it extremely slimmed down (no panel, filemanager, or other frills)

22:32 * quail strips the junk out of gnome that I not want to run or use

22:32 <quail> and I do the same for debian too

22:33 <quail> dpkg -l | fgrep ii | wc -l

22:33 <quail> 1086

22:33 <quail> that my installed package count on my laptop

22:34 <Soul_keeper> they all have  ii  in them ?

22:34 <quail> ii = installed

22:34 <Soul_keeper> most my installed software is from source

22:35 <quail> oh

22:35 <PovAddict> quail: aptitude search ~i

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22:38 <zombie67> if no file manager or frils, why log into a GUI at all?  Just stick wtih the shell

22:38 <Soul_keeper> i've got about 300 packages installed from the original slack installation

22:39 <Soul_keeper> zombie67, because you can't play 3d games, watch porn, or use FF  in the shell ...

22:40 <Soul_keeper> why should a filemanager/panel be synonymous with a GUI ?

22:40 <zombie67> ah right.  forgot about p0rn

22:40 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:40 <zombie67> a file manager is a GUI tool

22:41 <Soul_keeper> i consider my terminal a file manager

22:41 <zombie67> terminal is just a cli

22:41 <Soul_keeper> indeed

22:41 <zombie67> you manage files with things like mv cp rm etc

22:41 <zombie67> but that is not a file manager

22:41 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper:

22:42 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #47207 (at

22:42 <Soul_keeper> it's a file manager if i call it one ...

22:42 <zombie67> a file manager does all that with a GUI interface, and drag n drop

22:42 <PovAddict> if you can manage files with it, it's a file manager

22:42 <zombie67> then you argue my point

22:42 <Soul_keeper> your  "file manager"  really is just a cli by your definition too,  it'll use  cp mv rm etc.   just a frontend with drag/drop

22:43 <PovAddict> yep and happy to be doing it

22:43 <zombie67> why use a GUI windoes environment anyway?

22:43 <quail> PovAddict: my way is cleaner and does not output every package installed

22:43 <PovAddict> quail: aptitude search ~i | wc -l

22:43 <Soul_keeper> zombie67, i already told you, porn

22:44 <PovAddict> zombie67: because modern websites don't work under text mode browsers

22:44 <zombie67> trvth

22:44 <Soul_keeper> well things have changed, all text essentially makes you at odds with the "movement" of the internet and such

22:45 <Soul_keeper> i dunno why i speak sometimes, someone always thinks they'll teach me something

22:46 <Soul_keeper> good work, bbl

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23:04 <efc> moo

23:06 <zombie67> oom

23:29 <quail> moo

23:29 <efc> Took the bike for about 20 miles today. I think in retrospect I overdid it a little..

23:30 <quail> bicycle?

23:32 * Soul_keeper compiles gcc 4.3.1

23:35 <efc> Yep

23:38 <quail> :-)

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