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01:07 <Soul_keeper> http://markhumphrys.com/Bitmaps/saddam.blurred.jpg
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01:10 * Soul_keeper compiles FF3
01:14 <chanueting> hello, I would like to know what http_debug in cc_config.xml means
01:14 <PovAddict> it enables debugging information for all HTTP communication BOINC does
01:14 <PovAddict> HTTP is used to contact the project servers
01:18 <chanueting> only information instead of debugging?
01:20 * KathrynM is back (gone 112:20:43)
01:21 <Soul_keeper> lol they call FF3 "minefield"
01:22 <Soul_keeper> something tells me this could be fun ...
01:22 <PovAddict> no, they called it minefield before it was released
01:22 <KathrynM> sounds like fun
01:22 <KathrynM> I installed it on a Windows box at work
01:22 <KathrynM> Not had a chance to really take it for a spin
01:23 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, yeah codename
01:23 <Soul_keeper> still reported that way in the source
01:29 <PovAddict> gmail
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01:31 <PovAddict> if Workbench loads, double-click on Greetings, SOTB, Twist V3, Waves, etc. see how it copes with all of them running at the same time
01:31 <Soul_keeper> cool seems to work
01:32 <PovAddict> oh, open Copper (on the right) too
01:32 <KathrynM> #fedora was real friendly until I said it was F7
01:33 <KathrynM> F7 is EOL.
01:33 <KathrynM> Oh well
01:33 <PovAddict> KathrynM: see how friendly #boinc keeps if you say you have 4.x :)
01:33 <KathrynM> lol
01:34 <KathrynM> I don't want to update my daily machine until I've had a chance to practice on the othe rmachine.
01:34 <KathrynM> Unfortunately, the ati drivers are giving me a headache
01:34 <Soul_keeper> that's pretty cool PovAddict
01:34 <KathrynM> I just might have to bite the bullet and back everything up and try it
01:35 <KathrynM> btw, I forgot how horrible 4.x was
01:35 <KathrynM> I was testing something for the E@H folks a few weeks ago and it was like a different program
01:37 <KathrynM> I give up on running the yum update. I need to go to the doc and get some heavy duty decongestants if I want to hear out of my ear for work tomorrow.
01:37 <KathrynM> laterz all
01:38 <Soul_keeper> later
01:42 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, when was the last time you compiled the latest boinc svn ?
01:42 <PovAddict> the client? long ago
01:43 <PovAddict> in fact, don't even *try* compiling the client from trunk; always get a tag for a specific version
01:43 <Soul_keeper> what version are you using ?
01:43 <PovAddict> I'm using 5.10.45 from Ubuntu repository, not built from source
01:43 <Soul_keeper> i've got 6.1.7 here, considering an upgrade ...
01:44 <Soul_keeper> this was an svn grab a few months ago
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02:02 <leifdk1978> morning
02:06 <quail> hi
02:08 <leifdk1978> :)
02:09 <leifdk1978> just a new guy that joined the boinc thing
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02:29 <Soul_keeper> boinc 6.1.7 2219 float 5653 int
02:44 <efc> Off one core of something?
02:46 <efc> weather 30625
02:47 <efc> &weather 30625
02:47 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 75°F / 24°C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 60s. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the (1 more message)
02:48 <zombie67> &weather 94568
02:48 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 76.1°F / 24.5°C | Humidity: 30% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s to lower 60s. Evening seabreeze 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Cooler. Highs in the 80s to lower 90s. Afternoon seabreeze 10 to 15 mph.; (1 more message)
02:48 <zombie67> &more
02:48 <Romulus> zombie67: Sunday Night - Clear except for patchy late night fog and low clouds. Lows in the lower to mid 50s. Evening seabreeze 10 to 20 mph.;
02:52 <efc> moo zombie
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03:38 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.25-2-686 | Dual Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 6404.52 | Mem: 685/1003M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.13G Free: 64.47G | Procs: 123 | Uptime: 32 mins 18 secs | Load: 0.06 0.12 0.20 | Screen: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) GPU clock: | wlan0: In: 6.21M Out: 1.18M
03:42 <efc> Dual P3?
03:49 <Soul_keeper> found and fixed a boinc bug in the code, incompatibility with gcc 4.x
03:52 <quail> efc: dual p4
03:53 <quail> efc: it a core duo
03:53 <Soul_keeper> another bug, which tries to write to the root filesystem upon make install as user with --prefix specifying something in the homedir, hmmm
03:56 <efc> What do they usually build it with?
03:59 * efc keeps looking at monitors and keeps not buying one
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04:00 <Soul_keeper> impressive benchmark numbers increased nearly 1/3 with the latest boinc dev version ...
04:00 <Soul_keeper> 6.3.3 pre-release 3194 float 6829 int
04:00 <efc> Really just means the benchmarks run better though?
04:00 <Soul_keeper> boinc 6.1.7 2219 float 5653 int
04:01 <efc> optimizing benchmarks is kind of tricky
04:01 <efc> sometimes the compiler will figure out they always do the same thing and optimize out major parts or the whole thing
04:02 <Soul_keeper> well i did fix one bug in the prerelease, not sure who i'd talk to about that
04:04 <Soul_keeper> just a matter of a missing header ...
04:11 <Soul_keeper> of course much of that increase in performance could be attributed to the fact that i'm using the lastest gcc and all the optimizations i can
04:12 <efc> Yeah wonder if the old one didn't know your CPU
04:13 <efc> Night
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04:59 <CoderForLife> plink 126.96.36.199
05:00 <KathrynM> mornin
05:00 <CoderForLife> hey hey KathrynM ! +)
05:00 <CoderForLife> er =)
05:00 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife
05:01 <KathrynM> how goes the Coding?
05:01 * CoderForLife is happy to see KathrynM
05:01 <KathrynM> thanks
05:01 <CoderForLife> not much Coding, but I'm getting there
05:01 <KathrynM> what's the news on the wall?
05:02 <CoderForLife> thanks for asking
05:02 <CoderForLife> HOA presient came Friday
05:02 * CoderForLife sees that typing is a problem thjis morning
05:03 <CoderForLife> I *just* got outof bed
05:03 <KathrynM> CoderForLife needs caffeine
05:03 <CoderForLife> needs to take this next week off - oh, wait - I am!
05:03 <KathrynM> woo hoo!
05:04 <CoderForLife> tomorrow is our wedding anniversary
05:04 <KathrynM> congrats
05:04 <CoderForLife> I'm taking the missus *shopping*
05:04 <KathrynM> uh oh
05:04 <KathrynM> $$$$
05:04 <CoderForLife> she's been making a list for 3 days
05:05 <KathrynM> a large wall isn't a good enough aniversary present?
05:05 <CoderForLife> I thought a diversion from that topic was warranted
05:06 <KathrynM> true enough
05:06 <CoderForLife> so guess how many years...
05:06 <KathrynM> 20?
05:07 <CoderForLife> longer
05:07 <KathrynM> 30?
05:07 <CoderForLife> next year
05:07 <KathrynM> 29 this year?
05:07 <CoderForLife> June 23, 1979
05:07 <KathrynM> my parents are June 30, 1973
05:08 <CoderForLife> June is a wedding month
05:09 <CoderForLife> so - I'm expecting the first wall bid mid this week
05:09 * KathrynM crosses fingers
05:09 <CoderForLife> I'm putting together a spreadsheet atm, assuming my civil engineer has the cost estimate right
05:10 <KathrynM> very organized
05:11 <CoderForLife> figuring out what my total monthly wall payment would be to all my credit sources - to see if I can afford the monthly cash flow
05:11 <KathrynM> sounds painful
05:12 <CoderForLife> based on his "$28/sq ft installed" estimate, I need to spend $658 per month over the next 5 years on the wall
05:13 <KathrynM> ouch
05:13 <CoderForLife> &math 658*12*5
05:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 39480
05:14 <CoderForLife> he could easily be wrongm in qhich case all bets are off and I start ordering dump trucks of dirt
05:14 * CoderForLife notes the typing troubles continue
05:15 * KathrynM sends CoderForLife a large coke
05:15 <CoderForLife> I need one - will you stay here while I get something?
05:15 <KathrynM> yup
05:15 <KathrynM> dinner is in the oven
05:15 <CoderForLife> great - brb
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05:20 <CoderForLife> b
05:21 <CoderForLife> looks like "rb" = "in 5 mnutes"
05:21 <KathrynM> close enough
05:21 <CoderForLife> so back to the wall summary...
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05:23 <CoderForLife> homeowner's association has been here twice, expecting bids from at least one but hopefully both companies looking at the plan...
05:23 <KathrynM> good luck.
05:23 <KathrynM> how long will it take the build the great wall of cinci?
05:23 <CoderForLife> if current financing plan permits going forward - negotiate, award, schedule, get zoning approval...
05:24 <CoderForLife> get construction permit...
05:24 <CoderForLife> I don't know any construction timetable yet
05:24 <KathrynM> sooooooooooo. sometime next summer
05:25 <CoderForLife> need to call the "Call Before You Dig" line
05:25 <CoderForLife> all utilities will need to be marked
05:25 <CoderForLife> assess if the utilities are going to get destroyed, or most at risk
05:26 <CoderForLife> one of the HOA guys thinks we'll have to replace the long common private drive shared by the 4 houses
05:26 <CoderForLife> I didn't budget for that
05:26 <KathrynM> eek
05:27 <CoderForLife> and I guessing neither did my neighbors who share the cost of maintaining the drive
05:28 <KathrynM> there are days I'm glad I'm not a home owner
05:29 <CoderForLife> there are good days and bad day$
05:30 <KathrynM> I'm sure my dinner tastes good.... that is if I could taste it
05:30 <CoderForLife> you need to go?
05:30 <KathrynM> nope
05:30 <KathrynM> nose all stuffed up
05:31 <CoderForLife> thagg you berry buch
05:32 <KathrynM> that's about it
05:32 <KathrynM> and I can only hear out of one ear atm
05:32 <CoderForLife> I guess I should add "(C) J. R. R. Tolkien"
05:35 <CoderForLife> I'm not "away" now - caffeine is starting to nip at the edges of the neurons
05:36 <KathrynM> making progress
05:36 <CoderForLife> I hope you get to feeling better
05:36 <KathrynM> tanks
05:37 <KathrynM> got lots of nice drugs from the doctor today
05:37 * CoderForLife looks at his spreadsheet
05:37 <CoderForLife> nice drugs are better than the alternatives
05:37 <KathrynM> true
05:39 <CoderForLife> no matter how I slice it up, this is still a 'elluva lot of money
05:40 <KathrynM> that it is
05:40 <CoderForLife> and it's only part of the "hill problem" - just the worst piece
05:42 <CoderForLife> and by doing only the worst part as a standalone piece first, it's the most expensive way to do the second part later
05:44 <CoderForLife> oh well - enough whining from me
05:49 <CoderForLife> here's where we're going tomorrow - http://www.primeoutlets.com/cntrdefault.asp?cntrid=1029
05:52 <KathrynM> been to the one in Grove City multiple times
05:53 <CoderForLife> we'll make a day of it
05:53 <KathrynM> that's the only way to do the outlets :)
05:53 <CoderForLife> I'm guessing lunch at Subway
05:53 <KathrynM> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm
05:53 <KathrynM> subway
05:54 <CoderForLife> Is Subway in S.K.?
05:55 <KathrynM> one that I know of in Pusan
05:55 <KathrynM> Probably some in Seoul
05:55 <CoderForLife> amazing
06:02 <BadBarbarian> Mornin
06:02 <CoderForLife> morning BadBarbarian
06:03 <CoderForLife> brb
06:08 <CoderForLife> b
06:16 * CoderForLife looks at college tuition fees for next year
06:33 * CoderForLife now looks at the budget planner
07:57 * CoderForLife is quite alone in #boinc
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08:19 <CoderForLife> bbiab
08:20 <xcamel> mornin
08:20 <CoderForLife> morning
08:21 <xcamel> nice dump of rain atm...
08:21 <CoderForLife> well, you need some occasionally
08:22 <xcamel> and thunder...
08:22 <CoderForLife> that, not so much
08:23 <CoderForLife> but they usually go hand-in-hand
08:28 <CoderForLife> ok now bbiab
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09:00 <xcamel> &wx 12074
09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 60.9°F / 16.1°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms this morning...then showers with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds...heavy rainfall and small hail. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds (2 more messages)
09:00 <xcamel> &more
09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds...heavy rainfall and small hail in the evening. Lows in the mid 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then (1 more message)
09:00 <xcamel> &more
09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: becoming partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. A chance of thunderstorms. A chance of showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Special Weather Statement for Saratoga County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on June 22, 2008;
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09:13 <CoderForLife> back for a moment
09:15 <xcamel> "flash"
09:15 <xcamel> ....boom....
09:15 <CoderForLife> lol
09:15 <xcamel> and again....
09:15 <CoderForLife> when they go at the same time, it's close
09:15 <xcamel> morning thunder...
09:16 <CoderForLife> if it's flash and no boom, you're cooked
09:16 <xcamel> missing me by about 7 miles
09:17 <CoderForLife> you have lightning rods on the house/barn?
09:21 <CoderForLife> going outside to work on the deck a bit - bbl
09:22 <xcamel> have fun...
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10:08 <xcamel> odd little chaining storms from last night's stale front..
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10:15 <xcamel> mornin Doug
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10:57 <CoderForLife> back for a moment
11:06 <CoderForLife> back outside to fire up the grill
11:06 <CoderForLife> bbl
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12:13 <xcamel> hmmm... power hit....
12:14 <CoderForLife> un-good
12:14 <xcamel> church on fire from lightning hit in Greenwich
12:14 <xcamel> 'smoke condition'
12:14 <CoderForLife> ouch
12:15 <xcamel> if you want some hobby fun sometime, check out the latest crop of software defined radios...
12:16 <xcamel> ten-tec, persius, ICOM, etc...
12:16 <xcamel> especially the really wideband ones...
12:16 <CoderForLife> please define the word "hobby"?!
12:16 <xcamel> "hole into which you throw money, for personal enjoyment"
12:17 <CoderForLife> oh, the latter phrase rule out the hill
12:17 <CoderForLife> rules
12:17 <xcamel> you mean "grubby gulch" ?
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12:18 <CoderForLife> the precipice
12:18 <xcamel> indeed...
12:18 <nickuwo> I don't supposed there is a way to get BOINC to automatically reload config.xml, is there?
12:18 <CoderForLife> I haven't shown you any recent pictures
12:19 <CoderForLife> start/stop nickuwo =)
12:19 <nickuwo> hmm
12:19 <nickuwo> you sure?
12:20 <CoderForLife> no
12:20 <nickuwo> hehe
12:20 <CoderForLife> I'm sure that would do it =)
12:20 <CoderForLife> not sure that's the only way
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12:21 <nickuwo> It doesn't seem to reload...
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12:32 <XATRIX> hi....who can explain me , what does mean credits for account ?
12:33 <XATRIX> what does mean credits ?
12:33 <KathrynM> that was fast CoderForLife
12:33 <KathrynM> :)
12:34 <CoderForLife> someone asked me yesterday - I had the link up in my browser
12:34 <KathrynM> lol
12:34 <CoderForLife> actually, I am omniscient and predicted the question
12:35 <KathrynM> do you have Code for that?
12:35 <CoderForLife> apply Occam's Razor
12:36 <CoderForLife> if I had the Code for that, I'd have the money to pay your salary back here in our beloved Buckeye state
12:36 * CoderForLife continues working on his budget
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12:54 <nickuwo> how do you use fgrep to search all files?
12:54 <nickuwo> fgrep string ?
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12:54 <CoderForLife> yes, plus file name
12:55 <CoderForLife> or wildcard
12:55 <nickuwo> hmm
12:55 <CoderForLife> fgrep wow *
12:55 <nickuwo> I tried fgrep string * and it did nothing
12:55 <CoderForLife> then it found nothing
12:55 <nickuwo> it took no time
12:55 <CoderForLife> no files in cirectory?
12:56 <CoderForLife> er directory
12:56 <nickuwo> I want to search all file in the filesystem
12:56 <KathrynM> fastest computer in the west?
12:56 <nickuwo> not just dir im in
12:56 <CoderForLife> fgrep -R maybe
12:56 <nickuwo> genius!
12:57 * CoderForLife shuffles his feet
12:57 <CoderForLife> golly
12:57 <KathrynM> drat, and I was reading the man page :)
12:57 <CoderForLife> that's a Man page, silly
12:57 <KathrynM> how sexist
12:57 <KathrynM> I want to read the woman pages
12:58 <KathrynM> or the Woman page
12:58 <KathrynM> pages even
12:58 <KathrynM> because a Woman is too complex for just one page
12:58 <CoderForLife> blame it on Linux, or Ritchie
12:58 <nickuwo> Womanual
12:58 <KathrynM> not enough storage space in the world for that one nickuwo
12:58 <CoderForLife> I accept that as a man rule
12:58 * KathrynM needs sleep
12:59 <CoderForLife> tis natural
13:04 <KathrynM> &nn
13:04 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!
13:17 <nickuwo> alright... I hate boinc
13:18 <MTughan> Gah... Why is is so hard to find how the kernel manages file overlays?!
13:18 <nickuwo> the client keeps looking in /download when the files are clearly in /ramsey/download
13:18 <MTughan> grep for "overlay" in the 188.8.131.52 kernel sources produces a text file at least 2.5GB in size...
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13:19 <MTughan> And still growing.
13:19 <MTughan> 3GB...
13:19 <nickuwo> config.xml - <download_url>http://www.ramseyathome.com/ramsey/download</download_url> !!!
13:19 <nickuwo> christ
13:19 <MTughan> 4GB... I'm ready to give up and reinstall F9 Live...
13:20 <MTughan> 5GB..
13:20 <MTughan> 6GB...
13:20 <MTughan> This is just getting ridiculous.
13:21 <mwalling> wait... how is the kernel even that big
13:21 <MTughan> Paths from grep are.
13:21 <MTughan> And comments aren't included.
13:22 <MTughan> 9GB...
13:22 <MTughan> That's it. I'll just wipe the drive and start over.
13:23 <MTughan> I'm not searching through a 10GB file for how the kernel handles the overlay path...
13:23 <MTughan> I'll just come back after a snack, see how large this thing gets...
13:24 <yoyo[RKN]> seems to be a wrapper project ;)
13:27 <MTughan> Well, I found how much free space I had on my drive... 14.5GB. "grep: writing output: No space left on device"
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13:47 <CoderForLife> moo
13:50 <CoderForLife> bbl
13:50 <yoyo[RKN]> my graphic app does not work with boincmanager
14:00 <efc> &math convert 4 pounds to milligrams
14:00 <Romulus> efc: 1814369.48
14:07 <xcamel> the air has turned into "sticky goo"
14:07 * efc was seeing if horse vitamins would be cheaper than the people version
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14:10 <xcamel> only if you need a prettier mane and tail...
14:10 * efc snorts and eats xcamel's grass
14:11 <efc> Mother will buy any kind of snake oil for them
14:12 <xcamel> mothers are like that...
14:13 <efc> its hard enough to proof this junk works on humans, much less horses that can't talk
14:13 * CoderForLife gallops back into the room
14:13 <CoderForLife> he-he-hey
14:19 <efc> Its faaaaaaaat CFL
14:20 <CoderForLife> that would be hey-hey-hey - mine was more of a whinney
14:21 <CoderForLife> keeping with the horse theme
14:21 <CoderForLife> *Ding *efc *I *want*you *to *build *an *ark
14:22 <CoderForLife> *for *wdsmia
14:25 <efc> busy building my bunker
14:25 <CoderForLife> um, bunkers typically don't float
14:32 <efc> Yeah its a hard sell
14:35 <xcamel> severe thunderstorm watches up - go figure..
14:35 <efc> got some rumbling here but very little on strikestar
14:36 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at www.strikestarus.com)
14:36 <efc> 7 detectors in georgia now
14:41 <CoderForLife> we've got a few snarky guys in the area
14:49 <CoderForLife> ah - now here - SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 593 REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 800 PM EDT
14:50 <efc> &weather 30625
14:50 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 79°F / 26°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Thunderstorm | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the mid (1 more message)
14:58 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin, germany
14:58 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 82Â°F / 28Â°C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:86 ° F. / 30 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:73 ° F. / 23 ° C.; Clear. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 ° F. / 21 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
15:05 <efc> I keep looking into this BOINC logging art.. seems haphazard
15:06 <efc> Thats also a county in Georgia one over from Hazard county
15:20 <CoderForLife> Is Hazard County a Hap-py place?
15:23 <CoderForLife> local TV station radar is weird
15:24 <CoderForLife> jumps between images upon refresh - storm cells disappear and other 40 miles away appear
15:24 <CoderForLife> I expect better for a free service
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15:33 <efc> I think the 5.10.45 installed is borked. It resets my folder permissions and I can't seem to fix it.
15:35 <PovAddict> nickuwo: changing <download_url> will only affect new workunits
15:35 <efc> when in doubt reboot
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15:38 <nickuwo> so when my client tries to download the actual client prog, what url is it looking at?
15:38 <PovAddict> ah the application?
15:38 <nickuwo> si
15:38 <PovAddict> whatever is in the app_version table
15:38 <nickuwo> hmm
15:38 <PovAddict> if the download URL for the application changes, you have to release a new version
15:39 <PovAddict> Good URLs Don't Change
15:39 <CoderForLife> brb -- want to go outside and look at this incoming cell
15:48 <yoyo[RKN]> re
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15:59 <CoderForLife> raining now - big drops, sparsely dispersed
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16:01 <efc> Got it working, looks like .45 sets up permissions for the boinc folder to only let the current user see it
16:01 <efc> (the user that installed it)
16:02 <PovAddict> what version did you have before?
16:03 <efc> 5.4.11 I think
16:04 <efc> might have been 5.4.9 on that computer
16:05 <efc> the file I downloaded for .45 was even set for current user only, user on anohter machine could see it but not copy it
16:06 <CoderForLife> raining generally hard now
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16:28 <CoderForLife> they're multiplying
16:44 <PovAddict> zomg run
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16:47 <surrealillusion> hmm gotta take my main 6600 down for a format =
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16:53 <quail> morning all
16:55 <surrealillusion> afternoon quail
16:55 <quail> how are things
16:56 * quail is happy my E8200 is @ 8200+ seti credits :-)
17:03 <surrealillusion> not too shabby
17:03 <surrealillusion> watching Dungeon and Dragons
17:03 <surrealillusion> and gonna prep some Tiramisu in a bit
17:03 <surrealillusion> 8200 seti credit total or RAC
17:11 <quail> Total Credit8,293
17:11 <quail> Avg. credit699.37
17:16 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
17:16 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 88.9°F / 31.6°C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 29.38in / 994.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Patchy dense fog after midnight. Lows 60 to 70. Light winds.; Monday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy dense fog in the morning. Highs 81 (1 more message)
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17:21 <surrealillusion> nice
17:21 <surrealillusion> how long has it been running for?
17:21 <surrealillusion> if the 8200 is clocked to 3ghz
17:22 <surrealillusion> you should probably be getting anywhere above 2k rac ... 2.5k even
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17:24 <quail> nope it not over clocked
17:25 <quail> and this computer be running seti since 18 Jun 2008 22:02:26 UTC
17:25 <surrealillusion> ah you've still got some time for the rac to climb then
17:25 <surrealillusion> =]
17:26 <surrealillusion> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4439177
17:26 <surrealillusion> that's my new q6600\
17:37 <wdsmia_> Rookies :P
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17:41 <MTughan> wdsmia: We don't need to hear it.
17:43 <surrealillusion> haha
17:43 <surrealillusion> i wish I had a 8 core mac pro
17:43 <surrealillusion> mmmm
17:43 <surrealillusion> dual quad core xeon computing
17:44 <surrealillusion> i wouldn't even know where to start with that
17:44 <surrealillusion> ok gotta get some more eggs for this tiramisu
17:44 <MTughan> Hey, found an older racing game that works pretty darn well under Wine on a P4...
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17:55 <wdsmia> Granny Racing p4000 sounds about right for you Michael
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17:56 <wdsmia> ;)
17:56 <MTughan> Actually, it's a futuristic game..
17:57 <MTughan> "Speed Challenge: Jacques Villeneuve's Racing Vision"
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17:58 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 82.2°F / 27.9°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 50s. North wind near 10 mph.; Monday - Sunny. High around 80. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the lower 60s. (1 more message)
17:58 <wdsmia> &more
17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 7:00 AM CDT on June 25, 2008;
17:59 <MTughan> It's a little slow at times, but just the sound. The display's always smooth.
18:02 * wdsmia doesnt play computer games... it takes cpu cycles away from crunching
18:02 <MTughan> That it does... I have to suspend BOINC to play it. It's fine on Windows.
18:03 * PovAddict doesn't play any game that eats all the CPU
18:03 <MTughan> Could also help that it uses OpenGL. Can use Direct3D, but haven't tried that.
18:03 <PovAddict> there are a few that use 100% no matter what CPU speed you have
18:03 <MTughan> PovAddict: Read, Wine.
18:03 <PovAddict> so?
18:03 <Romulus> hmm... so is iStat, PovAddict
18:06 <MTughan> Wine does it slower than Windows. I'm sure I could just reduce BOINC to 1 CPU rather than the 2 emulated and still play the game fine.
18:06 <PovAddict> even without BOINC I had trouble when I wanted to play games while waiting for POV-Ray renders to finish
18:06 <PovAddict> useless if the game eats 100% CPU
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18:09 <surrealillusion> if i can wow from my linux box
18:09 <surrealillusion> and play CS: source
18:09 <surrealillusion> i'm good
18:11 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm not much of a FPS person myself.
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18:11 <quail> NWN is good too
18:12 <MTughan> I'm off for a bit, playing tennis.
18:14 <quail> MTughan: have fun
18:33 <CoderForLife> back from playing sanitation engineer
18:36 <quail> CoderForLife: morning Don, how are you?
18:40 <CoderForLife> writing a response e-mail for w@#% that I hate what people are doing and I think they'
18:40 <CoderForLife> re being totally a**es
18:40 <CoderForLife> fine, thanks, and you?
18:42 <quail> good thanks
18:50 <quail> CoderForLife: so you been having a good weekend?
18:50 <CoderForLife> hmm - define good...
18:51 <CoderForLife> spent today mostly w@#%ing
18:51 <quail> somewhere on the lower end of the scale between bad and excelent
18:51 <CoderForLife> on "vacation" this next week,
18:52 <CoderForLife> wedding anniversary is tomorrow - going shopping
18:52 <quail> ah you'll enjoy that then :-)
18:52 <CoderForLife> car goes in for service Tuesday
18:52 <CoderForLife> a bit more shopping and wife's haircut on Wedneday
18:52 <CoderForLife> expecting wall bid mid-week
18:52 <CoderForLife> then the s*** hits the fan
18:54 <quail> oh, that does not sound good :-(
18:54 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: what will cost more: wall, or wife shopping?
18:54 <CoderForLife> lol good question
18:55 <CoderForLife> my items on the shopping list are more numerous than hers
18:55 <PovAddict> wife's shopping* ("wife-shopping" sounds a bit like you go to the shopping to buy a new wife)
18:55 <CoderForLife> she's rather low maintenance
18:55 <CoderForLife> I'll keep this model
18:55 <PovAddict> lol
18:55 <quail> hehe
18:56 <quail> PovAddict: CoderForLife is just the walking talking wallet :-P
18:56 <CoderForLife> although - Jennifer Connelly has been discussed around here a few times
18:57 <CoderForLife> I expect she's high maintenance
18:57 <quail> who is she?
18:57 <Romulus> Rumor has it she is much better, but still in the hospital, quail
18:58 <Romulus> Title: Jennifer Connelly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
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19:00 * CoderForLife continues work on the fraking w@#% e-mail
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19:19 <xcamel> scanner kills.. 184.108.40.206, 220.127.116.11
19:20 <CoderForLife> okey-dokey - thx
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19:26 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 June 22 - Barred Spiral Galaxy NGC 1300 (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
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19:49 <KathrynM> mornin
19:49 <CoderForLife> wb
19:49 <CoderForLife> how do you fell this AM?
19:49 <CoderForLife> lol
19:49 <KathrynM> fallen
19:49 <CoderForLife> *feel
19:50 <CoderForLife> I *STILL* can't type
19:50 <KathrynM> lol
19:50 <PovAddict> hi
19:50 <KathrynM> hola
19:51 <CoderForLife> I'm just proof reading a w@#% e-mail to try to - in a nice way - tell people that they are being total a**es
19:52 <CoderForLife> "a little bird" told me that they went to my boss and said I was anti-their one option recommendation, and that I was unreasonable
19:52 <CoderForLife> they want to continue to run our enterprise e-mail on an IBM iSeries machine
19:52 <KathrynM> which is how old?
19:53 <CoderForLife> they want to replace one that is 6 years old with a new one that should last 5 years
19:53 <CoderForLife> we have 2 $90,000 Linux processors they bought which are going unsued
19:54 <CoderForLife> and everything else in the shop is either mainframe or dual/quad core Windows
19:54 <KathrynM> makes sense to me
19:54 <CoderForLife> what does?
19:55 <KathrynM> not using what they already have and buying something new
19:55 <KathrynM> isn't that the way all companies work?
19:56 <CoderForLife> it's my job to make sure we don't make any big mistakes
19:58 <CoderForLife> and - I don't counsel defending stupidity
19:59 <CoderForLife> one of the people recommedning the iSeries thinks his job depends on keeping the mystery, and has publically told people he wants to thwart anything I support
19:59 <CoderForLife> aside from that - I have no strong feelings
20:04 <quail> back
20:08 <KathrynM> if there's one thing that's consistent across the globe, it's pigheadedness
20:10 <CoderForLife> I'm not immune either, but as enterprise architect, I am compelled to ask the big questions
20:10 <KathrynM> oh none of us are immune to it
20:13 <quail> I am, I just turn off :-P
20:13 * quail runs and hides :-P
20:15 <CoderForLife> don't fool with me quail - you'll remember that I can get touchy =)
20:27 <CoderForLife> OK quail - you can come back now
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20:29 <KathrynM> well #boinc-landers. I'm off for another fun filled day at the germ factory. The only plus I can see is that I'm half deaf at the moment so the noise won't be so noisy.
20:29 <KathrynM> Laterz all
20:29 <xcamel> most abundant things in the universe: hydrogen, and stupidity.
20:29 <CoderForLife> cya
20:29 <CoderForLife> yeah xcamel
20:30 * xcamel crawls off to the showers...
20:30 * CoderForLife does a final read on his e-mai;
20:34 <quail> CoderForLife: hehe, sorry I was working on mothers winblows pc
20:35 <CoderForLife> sure sure - balme it on Mom like all good politicians
20:36 <CoderForLife> throw grandma under the bus
20:37 <quail> hehe
20:37 * quail thinks CoderForLife need his diper changed :-P
20:40 * quail just downloading update of nvidia drivers for her machine
20:40 * CoderForLife downloads Diaper 2.0
20:43 * quail takes CoderForLife and the rest the channel for a work to the other end the house
20:43 * CoderForLife bounces along
20:44 <quail> wow it bright down here
20:46 <quail> new nvidia drivers are installed
20:47 <MTughan> Can anyone tell me how the X server can use more virtual memory than there is swap?
20:47 <quail> just waiting for winclam to finish its scan, so I can double check the virus has been removed from the system
20:48 <quail> err clamwin sorry
20:49 <MTughan> Well, by quitting one program and restart another, I've dropped my memory usage 250-300MB.
20:49 <MTughan> Quit Opera and restarted yum-updatesd.
20:50 * CoderForLife doesn't use yum-updatesd
20:50 <MTughan> You don't use yum then?
20:50 <MTughan> And by extension, not Fedora?
20:51 <CoderForLife> I want updates only on Saturday - so I have a cron task to run yum -y update; updatedb on Saturday mornings
20:51 <MTughan> Ah... I just leave it running. Doesn't do my system any harm.
20:51 <CoderForLife> so I can review and deal with any issues
20:51 <MTughan> It doesn't do any automatic updates.
20:53 <MTughan> At least not on Fedora 7... Don't remember on previous ones, and haven't had a huge amount of experience with F9. Haven't tried F8 either.
20:53 <CoderForLife> I am currently one instance each of 7, 8 and 9
20:54 <CoderForLife> after I get done, I'll have 2 of them on 9, and the other will run Open SuSE
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20:55 <MTughan> Planning to leave this one on F7 for now, and move to F9 with the quad-core. Also 64-bit.
20:55 <CoderForLife> well - I've been doing w@#% homew@#% nearly all day here at the PC - time to say gn
20:56 <MTughan> Planning something fairly radical too... Have a shared user partition. Planning to dual-boot Vista and Fedora, and want Vista's C:\Users to be the same as Fedora's /home. So I'll need at least three partitions, probably two disks.
20:56 <CoderForLife> cya MTughan quail xcamel (whenever you are)
20:56 <MTughan> Read my rambling first, then good night.
20:56 * CoderForLife reads
20:56 <CoderForLife> um - "good luck with that" =)
20:57 <MTughan> Dunno if it's been done before. You can relocate Vista's Users folder and have /home on a different partition, so shouldn't be too hard...
20:57 <MTughan> Just a bit of reg hacking. xD
20:57 <CoderForLife> you forget Vista's "security"
20:57 <MTughan> UAC?
20:57 <CoderForLife> UAC=SUX
20:58 <MTughan> I found an article online about moving it using the registry.
20:58 <CoderForLife> "are you sure you want to talk to Fedora?"
20:58 <MTughan> And I plan on disabling UAC first thing.
20:58 <MTughan> Huh?
20:58 <CoderForLife> go watch the Apple ads
20:58 <CoderForLife> gn all
20:58 <MTughan> Night.
21:01 <quail> night night CoderForLife
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21:11 <MTughan> Well, I looked over all the Apple ads, and didn't find anything like that... Through all the 2008 ads anyway, and about 3 ads from '07.
21:24 <Soul_keeper> what's going on in here ?
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21:52 * quail still waiting for a pc to finish its clamwin scan :-/
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22:20 <Romulus> Title: FAIL Blog - Fail and Epic Fail Pictures and Videos: Failblog.ORG (at failblog.org)
23:15 <Soul_keeper> some idiot removed the backspace drop down menu on FF, so if you go forward 20 pages and want to go back to page 1 you gotta go back 1 by 1 waiting for them to load
23:20 <MTughan> I still have it on FF3.
23:20 <MTughan> What does clicking and holding the back button do?
23:20 <Soul_keeper> ohhh ic how it works, one menu for both forward/backwards
23:20 <Soul_keeper> yeah they probably saved 6KB of mem with that move :)
23:21 <MTughan> Heh.
23:21 <MTughan> Yes, both on one menu.
23:27 <Soul_keeper> yeah i did some asm coding on ti calculators
23:27 <Soul_keeper> that was fun
23:40 <MTughan> Done TI-BASIC. Don't do it too much any more, don't particularly feel a need to.
23:40 <MTughan> And ASM is just too much to take on at this point. Maybe later on.
23:43 <Soul_keeper> lol yeah
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23:51 <MTughan> 'lo Doug. Long time, no see.
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