IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-06-22

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01:07 <Soul_keeper>

01:07 <Romulus> <> (at

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01:10 * Soul_keeper compiles FF3

01:14 <chanueting> hello, I would like to know what http_debug in cc_config.xml means

01:14 <PovAddict> it enables debugging information for all HTTP communication BOINC does

01:14 <PovAddict> HTTP is used to contact the project servers

01:18 <chanueting> only information instead of debugging?

01:20 * KathrynM is back (gone 112:20:43)

01:21 <Soul_keeper> lol they call FF3  "minefield"

01:22 <Soul_keeper> something tells me this could be fun ...

01:22 <PovAddict> no, they called it minefield before it was released

01:22 <KathrynM> sounds like fun

01:22 <KathrynM> I installed it on a Windows box at work

01:22 <KathrynM> Not had a chance to really take it for a spin

01:23 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, yeah codename

01:23 <Soul_keeper> still reported that way in the source

01:29 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, know a javascript heavy website off the top of your head ?  something for a test

01:29 <PovAddict> gmail

01:29 <PovAddict> also try, don't look just at the speed, see if it works at all

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01:31 <PovAddict> if Workbench loads, double-click on Greetings, SOTB, Twist V3, Waves, etc. see how it copes with all of them running at the same time

01:31 <Soul_keeper> cool seems to work

01:32 <PovAddict> oh, open Copper (on the right) too

01:32 <KathrynM> #fedora was real friendly until I said it was F7

01:33 <KathrynM> F7 is EOL.

01:33 <KathrynM> Oh well

01:33 <PovAddict> KathrynM: see how friendly #boinc keeps if you say you have 4.x :)

01:33 <KathrynM> lol

01:34 <KathrynM> I don't want to update my daily machine until I've had a chance to practice on the othe rmachine.

01:34 <KathrynM> Unfortunately, the ati drivers are giving me a headache

01:34 <Soul_keeper> that's pretty cool PovAddict

01:34 <KathrynM> I just might have to bite the bullet and back everything up and try it

01:35 <KathrynM> btw, I forgot how horrible 4.x was

01:35 <KathrynM> I was testing something for the E@H folks a few weeks ago and it was like a different program

01:37 <KathrynM> I give up on running the yum update.  I need to go to the doc and get some heavy duty decongestants if I want to hear out of my ear for work tomorrow.

01:37 <KathrynM> laterz all

01:38 <Soul_keeper> later

01:42 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, when was the last time you compiled the latest boinc svn ?

01:42 <PovAddict> the client? long ago

01:43 <PovAddict> in fact, don't even *try* compiling the client from trunk; always get a tag for a specific version

01:43 <Soul_keeper> what version are you using ?

01:43 <PovAddict> I'm using 5.10.45 from Ubuntu repository, not built from source

01:43 <Soul_keeper> i've got 6.1.7  here, considering an upgrade ...

01:44 <Soul_keeper> this was an svn grab a few months ago

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02:02 <leifdk1978> morning

02:06 <quail> hi

02:08 <leifdk1978> :)

02:09 <leifdk1978> just a new guy that joined the boinc thing

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02:29 <Soul_keeper> boinc 6.1.7   2219 float 5653 int

02:44 <efc> Off one core of something?

02:46 <efc> weather 30625

02:47 <efc> &weather 30625

02:47 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 75F / 24C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1015hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 60s. Light and variable winds.; Sunday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the (1 more message)

02:48 <zombie67> &weather 94568

02:48 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 76.1F / 24.5C | Humidity: 30% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1013.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the mid 50s to lower 60s. Evening seabreeze 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. Cooler. Highs in the 80s to lower 90s. Afternoon seabreeze 10 to 15 mph.; (1 more message)

02:48 <zombie67> &more

02:48 <Romulus> zombie67: Sunday Night - Clear except for patchy late night fog and low clouds. Lows in the lower to mid 50s. Evening seabreeze 10 to 20 mph.;

02:52 <efc> moo zombie

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03:38 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.25-2-686 |  Dual Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2050  @ 1.60GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 6404.52 | Mem: 685/1003M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.13G Free: 64.47G | Procs: 123 | Uptime: 32 mins 18 secs | Load: 0.06 0.12 0.20  | Screen: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) GPU clock:  | wlan0: In: 6.21M Out: 1.18M

03:42 <efc> Dual P3?

03:49 <Soul_keeper> found and fixed a boinc bug in the code, incompatibility with gcc 4.x

03:52 <quail> efc: dual p4

03:53 <quail> efc: it a core duo

03:53 <Soul_keeper> another bug, which tries to write to the root filesystem upon make install as user with --prefix specifying something in the homedir, hmmm

03:56 <efc> What do they usually build it with?

03:59 * efc keeps looking at monitors and keeps not buying one

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04:00 <Soul_keeper> impressive benchmark numbers increased nearly 1/3 with the latest boinc dev version ...

04:00 <Soul_keeper> 6.3.3 pre-release  3194 float 6829 int

04:00 <efc> Really just means the benchmarks run better though?

04:00 <Soul_keeper> boinc 6.1.7   2219 float 5653 int

04:01 <efc> optimizing benchmarks is kind of tricky

04:01 <efc> sometimes the compiler will figure out they always do the same thing and optimize out major parts or the whole thing

04:02 <Soul_keeper> well i did fix one bug in the prerelease, not sure who i'd talk to about that

04:04 <Soul_keeper> just a matter of a missing header ...

04:11 <Soul_keeper> of course much of that increase in performance could be attributed to the fact that i'm using the lastest gcc and all the optimizations i can

04:12 <efc> Yeah wonder if the old one didn't know your CPU

04:13 <efc> Night

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04:59 <CoderForLife> plink

05:00 <KathrynM> mornin

05:00 <CoderForLife> hey hey KathrynM ! +)

05:00 <CoderForLife> er =)

05:00 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife

05:01 <KathrynM> how goes the Coding?

05:01 * CoderForLife is happy to see KathrynM

05:01 <KathrynM> thanks

05:01 <CoderForLife> not much Coding, but I'm getting there

05:01 <KathrynM> what's the news on the wall?

05:02 <CoderForLife> thanks for asking

05:02 <CoderForLife> HOA presient came Friday

05:02 * CoderForLife sees that typing is a problem thjis morning

05:03 <CoderForLife> I *just* got outof bed

05:03 <KathrynM> CoderForLife needs caffeine

05:03 <CoderForLife> needs to take this next week off - oh, wait - I am!

05:03 <KathrynM> woo hoo!

05:04 <CoderForLife> tomorrow is our wedding anniversary

05:04 <KathrynM> congrats

05:04 <CoderForLife> I'm taking the missus *shopping*

05:04 <KathrynM> uh oh

05:04 <KathrynM> $$$$

05:04 <CoderForLife> she's been making a list for 3 days

05:05 <KathrynM> a large wall isn't a good enough aniversary present?

05:05 <CoderForLife> I thought a diversion from that topic was warranted

05:06 <KathrynM> true enough

05:06 <CoderForLife> so guess how many years...

05:06 <KathrynM> 20?

05:07 <CoderForLife> longer

05:07 <KathrynM> 30?

05:07 <CoderForLife> next year

05:07 <KathrynM> 29 this year?

05:07 <CoderForLife> June 23, 1979

05:07 <KathrynM> my parents are June 30, 1973

05:08 <CoderForLife> June is a wedding month

05:09 <CoderForLife> so - I'm expecting the first wall bid mid this week

05:09 * KathrynM crosses fingers

05:09 <CoderForLife> I'm putting together a spreadsheet atm, assuming my civil engineer has the cost estimate right

05:10 <KathrynM> very organized

05:11 <CoderForLife> figuring out what my total monthly wall payment would be to all my credit sources - to see if I can afford the monthly cash flow

05:11 <KathrynM> sounds painful

05:12 <CoderForLife> based on his "$28/sq ft installed" estimate, I need to spend $658 per month over the next 5 years on the wall

05:13 <KathrynM> ouch

05:13 <CoderForLife> &math 658*12*5

05:13 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 39480

05:14 <CoderForLife> he could easily be wrongm in qhich case all bets are off and I start ordering dump trucks of dirt

05:14 * CoderForLife notes the typing troubles continue

05:15 * KathrynM sends CoderForLife a large coke

05:15 <CoderForLife> I need one - will you stay here while I get something?

05:15 <KathrynM> yup

05:15 <KathrynM> dinner is in the oven

05:15 <CoderForLife> great - brb

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05:20 <CoderForLife> b

05:21 <CoderForLife> looks like "rb" = "in 5 mnutes"

05:21 <KathrynM> close enough

05:21 <CoderForLife> so back to the wall summary...

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05:23 <CoderForLife> homeowner's association has been here twice, expecting bids from at least one but hopefully both companies looking at the plan...

05:23 <KathrynM> good luck.

05:23 <KathrynM> how long will it take the build the great wall of cinci?

05:23 <CoderForLife> if current financing plan permits going forward - negotiate, award, schedule, get zoning approval...

05:24 <CoderForLife> get construction permit...

05:24 <CoderForLife> I don't know any construction timetable yet

05:24 <KathrynM> sooooooooooo.  sometime next summer

05:25 <CoderForLife> need to call the "Call Before You Dig" line

05:25 <CoderForLife> all utilities will need to be marked

05:25 <CoderForLife> assess if the utilities are going to get destroyed, or most at risk

05:26 <CoderForLife> one of the HOA guys thinks we'll have to replace the long common private drive shared by the 4 houses

05:26 <CoderForLife> I didn't budget for that

05:26 <KathrynM> eek

05:27 <CoderForLife> and I guessing neither did my neighbors who share the cost of maintaining the drive

05:28 <KathrynM> there are days I'm glad I'm not a home owner

05:29 <CoderForLife> there are good days and bad day$

05:30 <KathrynM> I'm sure my dinner tastes good....  that is if I could taste it

05:30 <CoderForLife> you need to go?

05:30 <KathrynM> nope

05:30 <KathrynM> nose all stuffed up

05:31 <CoderForLife> thagg you berry buch

05:32 <KathrynM> that's about it

05:32 <KathrynM> and I can only hear out of one ear atm

05:32 <CoderForLife> I guess I should add "(C) J. R. R. Tolkien"

05:35 <CoderForLife> I'm not "away" now - caffeine is starting to nip at the edges of the neurons

05:36 <KathrynM> making progress

05:36 <CoderForLife> I hope you get to feeling better

05:36 <KathrynM> tanks

05:37 <KathrynM> got lots of nice drugs from the doctor today

05:37 * CoderForLife looks at his spreadsheet

05:37 <CoderForLife> nice drugs are better than the alternatives

05:37 <KathrynM> true

05:39 <CoderForLife> no matter how I slice it up, this is still a 'elluva lot of money

05:40 <KathrynM> that it is

05:40 <CoderForLife> and it's only part of the "hill problem" - just the worst piece

05:42 <CoderForLife> and by doing only the worst part as a standalone piece first, it's the most expensive way to do the second part later

05:44 <CoderForLife> oh well - enough whining from me

05:49 <CoderForLife> here's where we're going tomorrow -

05:49 <Romulus> <> (at

05:52 <KathrynM> been to the one in Grove City multiple times

05:53 <CoderForLife> we'll make a day of it

05:53 <KathrynM> that's the only way to do the outlets :)

05:53 <CoderForLife> I'm guessing lunch at Subway

05:53 <KathrynM> mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

05:53 <KathrynM> subway

05:54 <CoderForLife> Is Subway in S.K.?

05:55 <KathrynM> one that I know of in Pusan

05:55 <KathrynM> Probably some in Seoul

05:55 <CoderForLife> amazing

06:02 <BadBarbarian> Mornin

06:02 <CoderForLife> morning BadBarbarian

06:03 <CoderForLife> brb

06:08 <CoderForLife> b

06:16 * CoderForLife looks at college tuition fees for next year

06:33 * CoderForLife now looks at the budget planner

07:57 * CoderForLife is quite alone in #boinc

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08:19 <CoderForLife> bbiab

08:20 <xcamel> mornin

08:20 <CoderForLife> morning

08:21 <xcamel> nice dump of rain atm...

08:21 <CoderForLife> well, you need some occasionally

08:22 <xcamel> and thunder...

08:22 <CoderForLife> that, not so much

08:23 <CoderForLife> but they usually go hand-in-hand

08:28 <CoderForLife> ok now bbiab

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09:00 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 60.9F / 16.1C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms this morning...then showers with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds...heavy rainfall and small hail. Highs in the upper 70s. South winds (2 more messages)

09:00 <xcamel> &more

09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds...heavy rainfall and small hail in the evening. Lows in the mid 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 80 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then (1 more message)

09:00 <xcamel> &more

09:00 <Romulus> xcamel: becoming partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. A chance of thunderstorms. A chance of showers in the morning...then showers likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Special Weather Statement for Saratoga County in effect until 9:00 AM EDT on June 22, 2008;

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09:13 <CoderForLife> back for a moment

09:15 <xcamel> "flash"

09:15 <xcamel> ....boom....

09:15 <CoderForLife> lol

09:15 <xcamel> and again....

09:15 <CoderForLife> when they go at the same time, it's close

09:15 <xcamel> morning thunder...

09:16 <CoderForLife> if it's flash and no boom, you're cooked

09:16 <xcamel> missing me by about 7 miles

09:17 <CoderForLife> you have lightning rods on the house/barn?

09:21 <CoderForLife> going outside to work on the deck a bit - bbl

09:22 <xcamel> have fun...

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10:08 <xcamel> odd little chaining storms from last night's stale front..

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10:15 <xcamel> mornin Doug

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10:57 <CoderForLife> back for a moment

11:06 <CoderForLife> back outside to fire up the grill

11:06 <CoderForLife> bbl

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12:13 <xcamel> hmmm... power hit....

12:14 <CoderForLife> un-good

12:14 <xcamel> church on fire from lightning hit in Greenwich

12:14 <xcamel> 'smoke condition'

12:14 <CoderForLife> ouch

12:15 <xcamel> if you want some hobby fun sometime, check out the latest crop of software defined radios...

12:16 <xcamel> ten-tec, persius, ICOM, etc...

12:16 <xcamel> especially the really wideband ones...

12:16 <CoderForLife> please define the word "hobby"?!

12:16 <xcamel> "hole into which you throw money, for personal enjoyment"

12:17 <CoderForLife> oh, the latter phrase rule out the hill

12:17 <CoderForLife> rules

12:17 <xcamel> you mean "grubby gulch" ?

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12:18 <CoderForLife> the precipice

12:18 <xcamel> indeed...

12:18 <nickuwo> I don't supposed there is a way to get BOINC to automatically reload config.xml, is there?

12:18 <CoderForLife> I haven't shown you any recent pictures

12:19 <CoderForLife> start/stop nickuwo =)

12:19 <nickuwo> hmm

12:19 <nickuwo> you sure?

12:20 <CoderForLife> no

12:20 <nickuwo> hehe

12:20 <CoderForLife> I'm sure that would do it =)

12:20 <CoderForLife> not sure that's the only way

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12:21 <nickuwo> It doesn't seem to reload...

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12:32 <XATRIX> hi....who can explain me , what does mean credits for account ?

12:33 <XATRIX> what does mean credits ?

12:33 <CoderForLife>

12:33 <Romulus> <> (at

12:33 <KathrynM> that was fast CoderForLife

12:33 <KathrynM> :)

12:34 <CoderForLife> someone asked me yesterday - I had the link up in my browser

12:34 <KathrynM> lol

12:34 <CoderForLife> actually, I am omniscient and predicted the question

12:35 <KathrynM> do you have Code for that?

12:35 <CoderForLife> apply Occam's Razor

12:36 <CoderForLife> if I had the Code for that, I'd have the money to pay your salary back here in our beloved Buckeye state

12:36 * CoderForLife continues working on his budget

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12:54 <nickuwo> how do you use fgrep to search all files?

12:54 <nickuwo> fgrep string ?

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12:54 <CoderForLife> yes, plus file name

12:55 <CoderForLife> or wildcard

12:55 <nickuwo> hmm

12:55 <CoderForLife> fgrep wow *

12:55 <nickuwo> I tried fgrep string * and it did nothing

12:55 <CoderForLife> then it found nothing

12:55 <nickuwo> it took no time

12:55 <CoderForLife> no files in cirectory?

12:56 <CoderForLife> er directory

12:56 <nickuwo> I want to search all file in the filesystem

12:56 <KathrynM> fastest computer in the west?

12:56 <nickuwo> not just dir im in

12:56 <CoderForLife> fgrep -R maybe

12:56 <nickuwo> genius!

12:57 * CoderForLife shuffles his feet

12:57 <CoderForLife> golly

12:57 <KathrynM> drat, and I was reading the man page :)

12:57 <CoderForLife> that's a Man page, silly

12:57 <KathrynM> how sexist

12:57 <KathrynM> I want to read the woman pages

12:58 <KathrynM> or the Woman page

12:58 <KathrynM> pages even

12:58 <KathrynM> because a Woman is too complex for just one page

12:58 <CoderForLife> blame it on Linux, or Ritchie

12:58 <nickuwo> Womanual

12:58 <KathrynM> not enough storage space in the world for that one nickuwo

12:58 <CoderForLife> I accept that as a man rule

12:58 * KathrynM needs sleep

12:59 <CoderForLife> tis natural

13:04 <KathrynM> &nn

13:04 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

13:17 <nickuwo> alright... I hate boinc

13:18 <MTughan> Gah... Why is is so hard to find how the kernel manages file overlays?!

13:18 <nickuwo> the client keeps looking in /download when the files are clearly in /ramsey/download

13:18 <MTughan> grep for "overlay" in the kernel sources produces a text file at least 2.5GB in size...

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13:19 <MTughan> And still growing.

13:19 <MTughan> 3GB...

13:19 <nickuwo> config.xml - <download_url></download_url> !!!

13:19 <Romulus> <> (at

13:19 <nickuwo> christ

13:19 <MTughan> 4GB... I'm ready to give up and reinstall F9 Live...

13:20 <MTughan> 5GB..

13:20 <MTughan> 6GB...

13:20 <MTughan> This is just getting ridiculous.

13:21 <mwalling> wait... how is the kernel even that big

13:21 <MTughan> Paths from grep are.

13:21 <MTughan> And comments aren't included.

13:22 <MTughan> 9GB...

13:22 <MTughan> That's it. I'll just wipe the drive and start over.

13:23 <MTughan> I'm not searching through a 10GB file for how the kernel handles the overlay path...

13:23 <MTughan> I'll just come back after a snack, see how large this thing gets...

13:24 <yoyo[RKN]> seems to be a wrapper project ;)

13:27 <MTughan> Well, I found how much free space I had on my drive... 14.5GB. "grep: writing output: No space left on device"

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13:47 <CoderForLife> moo

13:50 <CoderForLife> bbl

13:50 <yoyo[RKN]> my graphic app does not work with boincmanager

14:00 <efc> &math convert 4 pounds to milligrams

14:00 <Romulus> efc: 1814369.48

14:07 <xcamel> the air has turned into "sticky goo"

14:07 * efc was seeing if horse vitamins would be cheaper than the people version

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14:10 <xcamel> only if you need a prettier mane and tail...

14:10 * efc snorts and eats xcamel's grass

14:11 <efc> Mother will buy any kind of snake oil for them

14:12 <xcamel> mothers are like that...

14:13 <efc> its hard enough to proof this junk works on humans, much less horses that can't talk

14:13 * CoderForLife gallops back into the room

14:13 <CoderForLife> he-he-hey

14:19 <efc> Its faaaaaaaat CFL

14:20 <CoderForLife> that would be hey-hey-hey - mine was more of a whinney

14:21 <CoderForLife> keeping with the horse theme

14:21 <CoderForLife> *Ding *efc *I *want*you *to *build *an *ark

14:22 <CoderForLife> *for *wdsmia

14:25 <efc> busy building my bunker

14:25 <CoderForLife> um, bunkers typically don't float

14:32 <efc> Yeah its a hard sell

14:35 <xcamel> severe thunderstorm watches up - go figure..

14:35 <efc> got some rumbling here but very little on strikestar

14:36 <efc>

14:36 <Romulus> Title: StrikeStarUS (at

14:36 <efc> 7 detectors in georgia now

14:41 <CoderForLife> we've got a few snarky guys in the area


14:50 <efc> &weather 30625

14:50 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 79F / 26C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Thunderstorm | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows in the mid (1 more message)

14:58 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin, germany

14:58 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 82°F / 28°C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 8:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:64 F. / 18 C.; Chance of Rain. High:73 F. / 23 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:51 F. / 11 C.;

15:05 <efc> I keep looking into this BOINC logging art.. seems haphazard

15:06 <efc> Thats also a county in Georgia one over from Hazard county

15:20 <CoderForLife> Is Hazard County a Hap-py place?

15:23 <CoderForLife> local TV station radar is weird

15:24 <CoderForLife> jumps between images upon refresh - storm cells disappear and other 40 miles away appear

15:24 <CoderForLife> I expect better for a free service

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15:33 <efc> I think the 5.10.45 installed is borked. It resets my folder permissions and I can't seem to fix it.

15:35 <PovAddict> nickuwo: changing <download_url> will only affect new workunits

15:35 <efc> when in doubt reboot

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15:38 <nickuwo> so when my client tries to download the actual client prog, what url is it looking at?

15:38 <PovAddict> ah the application?

15:38 <nickuwo> si

15:38 <PovAddict> whatever is in the app_version table

15:38 <nickuwo> hmm

15:38 <PovAddict> if the download URL for the application changes, you have to release a new version

15:39 <PovAddict> Good URLs Don't Change

15:39 <CoderForLife> brb  -- want to go outside and look at this incoming cell

15:48 <yoyo[RKN]> re

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15:59 <CoderForLife> raining now - big drops, sparsely dispersed

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16:01 <efc> Got it working, looks like .45 sets up permissions for the boinc folder to only let the current user see it

16:01 <efc> (the user that installed it)

16:02 <PovAddict> what version did you have before?

16:03 <efc> 5.4.11 I think

16:04 <efc> might have been 5.4.9 on that computer

16:05 <efc> the file I downloaded for .45 was even set for current user only, user on anohter machine could see it but not copy it

16:06 <CoderForLife> raining generally hard now

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16:28 <CoderForLife> they're multiplying

16:44 <PovAddict> zomg run

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16:47 <surrealillusion> hmm gotta take my main 6600 down for a format =

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16:53 <quail> morning all

16:55 <surrealillusion> afternoon quail

16:55 <quail> how are things

16:56 * quail is happy my E8200 is @ 8200+ seti credits :-)

16:56 <quail>

16:56 <Romulus> <> (at

17:03 <surrealillusion> not too shabby

17:03 <surrealillusion> watching Dungeon and Dragons

17:03 <surrealillusion> and gonna prep some Tiramisu in a bit

17:03 <surrealillusion> 8200 seti credit total or RAC

17:11 <quail> Total Credit8,293

17:11 <quail> Avg. credit699.37

17:16 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

17:16 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 88.9F / 31.6C | Humidity: 39% | Pressure: 29.38in / 994.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 3.4mph / 5.5km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Patchy dense fog after midnight. Lows 60 to 70. Light winds.; Monday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy dense fog in the morning. Highs 81 (1 more message)

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17:21 <surrealillusion> nice

17:21 <surrealillusion> how long has it been running for?

17:21 <surrealillusion> if the 8200 is clocked to 3ghz

17:22 <surrealillusion> you should probably be getting anywhere above 2k rac ... 2.5k even

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17:24 <quail> nope it not over clocked

17:25 <quail> and this computer be running seti since 18 Jun 2008 22:02:26 UTC

17:25 <surrealillusion> ah you've still got some time for the rac to climb then

17:25 <surrealillusion> =]

17:26 <surrealillusion>

17:26 <Romulus> <> (at

17:26 <surrealillusion> that's my new q6600\

17:37 <wdsmia_> Rookies :P

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17:41 <MTughan> wdsmia: We don't need to hear it.

17:43 <surrealillusion> haha

17:43 <surrealillusion> i wish I had a 8 core mac pro

17:43 <surrealillusion> mmmm

17:43 <surrealillusion> dual quad core xeon computing

17:44 <surrealillusion> i wouldn't even know where to start with that

17:44 <surrealillusion> ok gotta get some more eggs for this tiramisu

17:44 <MTughan> Hey, found an older racing game that works pretty darn well under Wine on a P4...

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17:55 <wdsmia> Granny Racing p4000 sounds about right for you Michael

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17:56 <wdsmia> ;)

17:56 <MTughan> Actually, it's a futuristic game..

17:57 <MTughan> "Speed Challenge: Jacques Villeneuve's Racing Vision"

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17:58 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 82.2F / 27.9C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 50s. North wind near 10 mph.; Monday - Sunny. High around 80. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the lower 60s. (1 more message)

17:58 <wdsmia> &more

17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 7:00 AM CDT on June 25, 2008;

17:59 <MTughan> It's a little slow at times, but just the sound. The display's always smooth.

18:02 * wdsmia doesnt play computer games... it takes cpu cycles away from crunching

18:02 <MTughan> That it does... I have to suspend BOINC to play it. It's fine on Windows.

18:03 * PovAddict doesn't play any game that eats all the CPU

18:03 <MTughan> Could also help that it uses OpenGL. Can use Direct3D, but haven't tried that.

18:03 <PovAddict> there are a few that use 100% no matter what CPU speed you have

18:03 <MTughan> PovAddict: Read, Wine.

18:03 <PovAddict> so?

18:03 <Romulus> hmm... so is iStat, PovAddict

18:06 <MTughan> Wine does it slower than Windows. I'm sure I could just reduce BOINC to 1 CPU rather than the 2 emulated and still play the game fine.

18:06 <PovAddict> even without BOINC I had trouble when I wanted to play games while waiting for POV-Ray renders to finish

18:06 <PovAddict> useless if the game eats 100% CPU

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18:09 <surrealillusion> if i can wow from my linux box

18:09 <surrealillusion> and play CS: source

18:09 <surrealillusion> i'm good

18:11 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm not much of a FPS person myself.

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18:11 <quail> NWN is good too

18:12 <MTughan> I'm off for a bit, playing tennis.

18:14 <quail> MTughan: have fun

18:33 <CoderForLife> back from playing sanitation engineer

18:36 <quail> CoderForLife: morning Don, how are you?

18:40 <CoderForLife> writing a response e-mail for w@#% that I hate what people are doing and I think they'

18:40 <CoderForLife> re being totally a**es

18:40 <CoderForLife> fine, thanks, and you?

18:42 <quail> good thanks

18:50 <quail> CoderForLife: so you been having a good weekend?

18:50 <CoderForLife> hmm - define good...

18:51 <CoderForLife> spent today mostly w@#%ing

18:51 <quail> somewhere on the lower end of the scale between bad and excelent

18:51 <CoderForLife> on "vacation" this next week,

18:52 <CoderForLife> wedding anniversary is tomorrow - going shopping

18:52 <quail> ah you'll enjoy that then :-)

18:52 <CoderForLife> car goes in for service Tuesday

18:52 <CoderForLife> a bit more shopping and wife's haircut on Wedneday

18:52 <CoderForLife> expecting wall bid mid-week

18:52 <CoderForLife> then the s*** hits the fan

18:54 <quail> oh, that does not sound good :-(

18:54 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: what will cost more: wall, or wife shopping?

18:54 <CoderForLife> lol  good question

18:55 <CoderForLife> my items on the shopping list are more numerous than hers

18:55 <PovAddict> wife's shopping* ("wife-shopping" sounds a bit like you go to the shopping to buy a new wife)

18:55 <CoderForLife> she's rather low maintenance

18:55 <CoderForLife> I'll keep this model

18:55 <PovAddict> lol

18:55 <quail> hehe

18:56 <quail> PovAddict: CoderForLife is just the walking talking wallet :-P

18:56 <CoderForLife> although - Jennifer Connelly has been discussed around here a few times

18:57 <CoderForLife> I expect she's high maintenance

18:57 <quail> who is she?

18:57 <Romulus> Rumor has it she is much better, but still in the hospital, quail

18:57 <CoderForLife>

18:58 <Romulus> Title: Jennifer Connelly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

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19:00 * CoderForLife continues work on the fraking w@#% e-mail

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19:19 <xcamel> scanner kills..,

19:20 <CoderForLife> okey-dokey - thx

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19:26 <xcamel>

19:26 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 June 22 - Barred Spiral Galaxy NGC 1300 (at

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19:49 <KathrynM> mornin

19:49 <CoderForLife> wb

19:49 <CoderForLife> how do you fell this AM?

19:49 <CoderForLife> lol

19:49 <KathrynM> fallen

19:49 <CoderForLife> *feel

19:50 <CoderForLife> I *STILL* can't type

19:50 <KathrynM> lol

19:50 <PovAddict> hi

19:50 <KathrynM> hola

19:51 <CoderForLife> I'm just proof reading a w@#% e-mail to try to - in a nice way - tell people that they are being total a**es

19:52 <CoderForLife> "a little bird" told me that they went to my boss and said I was anti-their one option recommendation, and that I was unreasonable

19:52 <CoderForLife> they want to continue to run our enterprise e-mail on an IBM iSeries machine

19:52 <KathrynM> which is how old?

19:53 <CoderForLife> they want to replace one that is 6 years old with a new one that should last 5 years

19:53 <CoderForLife> we have 2 $90,000 Linux processors they bought which are going unsued

19:54 <CoderForLife> and everything else in the shop is either mainframe or dual/quad core Windows

19:54 <KathrynM> makes sense to me

19:54 <CoderForLife> what does?

19:55 <KathrynM> not using what they already have and buying something new

19:55 <KathrynM> isn't that the way all companies work?

19:56 <CoderForLife> it's my job to make sure we don't make any big mistakes

19:58 <CoderForLife> and - I don't counsel defending stupidity

19:59 <CoderForLife> one of the people recommedning the iSeries thinks his job depends on keeping the mystery, and has publically told people he wants to thwart anything I support

19:59 <CoderForLife> aside from that - I have no strong feelings

20:04 <quail> back

20:08 <KathrynM> if there's one thing that's consistent across the globe, it's pigheadedness

20:10 <CoderForLife> I'm not immune either, but as enterprise architect, I am compelled to ask the big questions

20:10 <KathrynM> oh none of us are immune to it

20:13 <quail> I am, I just turn off :-P

20:13 * quail runs and hides :-P

20:15 <CoderForLife> don't fool with me quail - you'll remember that I can get touchy =)

20:27 <CoderForLife> OK quail - you can come back now

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20:29 <KathrynM> well #boinc-landers.  I'm off for another fun filled day at the germ factory.  The only plus I can see is that I'm half deaf at the moment so the noise won't be so noisy.

20:29 <KathrynM> Laterz all

20:29 <xcamel> most abundant things in the universe: hydrogen, and stupidity.

20:29 <CoderForLife> cya

20:29 <CoderForLife> yeah xcamel

20:30 * xcamel crawls off to the showers...

20:30 * CoderForLife does a final read on his e-mai;

20:34 <quail> CoderForLife: hehe, sorry I was working on mothers winblows pc

20:35 <CoderForLife> sure sure - balme it on Mom like all good politicians

20:36 <CoderForLife> throw grandma under the bus

20:37 <quail> hehe

20:37 * quail thinks CoderForLife need his diper changed :-P

20:40 * quail just downloading update of nvidia drivers for her machine

20:40 * CoderForLife downloads Diaper 2.0

20:43 * quail takes CoderForLife and the rest the channel for a work to the other end the house

20:43 * CoderForLife bounces along

20:44 <quail> wow it bright down here

20:46 <quail> new nvidia drivers are installed

20:47 <MTughan> Can anyone tell me how the X server can use more virtual memory than there is swap?

20:47 <quail> just waiting for winclam to finish its scan, so I can double check the virus has been removed from the system

20:48 <quail> err clamwin sorry

20:49 <MTughan> Well, by quitting one program and restart another, I've dropped my memory usage 250-300MB.

20:49 <MTughan> Quit Opera and restarted yum-updatesd.

20:50 * CoderForLife doesn't use yum-updatesd

20:50 <MTughan> You don't use yum then?

20:50 <MTughan> And by extension, not Fedora?

20:51 <CoderForLife> I want updates only on Saturday - so I have a cron task to run yum -y update; updatedb on Saturday mornings

20:51 <MTughan> Ah... I just leave it running. Doesn't do my system any harm.

20:51 <CoderForLife> so I can review and deal with any issues

20:51 <MTughan> It doesn't do any automatic updates.

20:53 <MTughan> At least not on Fedora 7... Don't remember on previous ones, and haven't had a huge amount of experience with F9. Haven't tried F8 either.

20:53 <CoderForLife> I am currently one instance each of 7, 8 and 9

20:54 <CoderForLife> after I get done, I'll have 2 of them on 9, and the other will run Open SuSE

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20:55 <MTughan> Planning to leave this one on F7 for now, and move to F9 with the quad-core. Also 64-bit.

20:55 <CoderForLife> well - I've been doing w@#% homew@#% nearly all day here at the PC - time to say gn

20:56 <MTughan> Planning something fairly radical too... Have a shared user partition. Planning to dual-boot Vista and Fedora, and want Vista's C:\Users to be the same as Fedora's /home. So I'll need at least three partitions, probably two disks.

20:56 <CoderForLife> cya MTughan quail xcamel (whenever you are)

20:56 <MTughan> Read my rambling first, then good night.

20:56 * CoderForLife reads

20:56 <CoderForLife> um - "good luck with that" =)

20:57 <MTughan> Dunno if it's been done before. You can relocate Vista's Users folder and have /home on a different partition, so shouldn't be too hard...

20:57 <MTughan> Just a bit of reg hacking. xD

20:57 <CoderForLife> you forget Vista's "security"

20:57 <MTughan> UAC?

20:57 <CoderForLife> UAC=SUX

20:58 <MTughan> I found an article online about moving it using the registry.

20:58 <CoderForLife> "are you sure you want to talk to Fedora?"

20:58 <MTughan> And I plan on disabling UAC first thing.

20:58 <MTughan> Huh?

20:58 <CoderForLife> go watch the Apple ads

20:58 <CoderForLife> gn all

20:58 <MTughan> Night.

21:01 <quail> night night CoderForLife

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21:11 <MTughan> Well, I looked over all the Apple ads, and didn't find anything like that... Through all the 2008 ads anyway, and about 3 ads from '07.

21:24 <Soul_keeper> what's going on in here ?

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21:52 * quail still waiting for a pc to finish its clamwin scan :-/

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22:20 <Soul_keeper>

22:20 <Romulus> Title: FAIL Blog - Fail and Epic Fail Pictures and Videos: Failblog.ORG (at

23:15 <Soul_keeper> some idiot removed the backspace drop down menu on FF, so if you go forward 20 pages and want to go back to page 1 you gotta go back 1 by 1 waiting for them to load

23:20 <MTughan> I still have it on FF3.

23:20 <MTughan> What does clicking and holding the back button do?

23:20 <Soul_keeper> ohhh ic how it works, one menu for both forward/backwards

23:20 <Soul_keeper> yeah they probably saved 6KB of mem with that move :)

23:21 <MTughan> Heh.

23:21 <MTughan> Yes, both on one menu.

23:27 <Soul_keeper> yeah i did some asm coding on ti calculators

23:27 <Soul_keeper> that was fun

23:40 <MTughan> Done TI-BASIC. Don't do it too much any more, don't particularly feel a need to.

23:40 <MTughan> And ASM is just too much to take on at this point. Maybe later on.

23:43 <Soul_keeper> lol yeah

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23:51 <MTughan> 'lo Doug. Long time, no see.

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