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00:50 <quail> &math convert 4536.78 sec min

00:50 <Romulus> quail: 75.613

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00:55 <efc> &weather 31088

00:55 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 74F / 23C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.19in / 1022hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows 61 to 67. Light and variable winds.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 90s. Southwest winds up to 10 mph.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds.;

00:57 <quail> efc: moo

00:57 <efc> Moo

00:57 * efc still looking at FPGA dev stuff

00:57 <quail> how are things?

00:58 <efc> Pretty good, got my 2 miles in tonight

00:58 <quail> efc: how you go with you boinc stats script?

00:58 <quail> :-)

00:58 <efc> Eddie Cottongim SETI@Home [100%] - Processor: Intel(R) 80386SX CPU 16MHz [x86 Family 3 Model SX Stepping 3] Memory: 4 MB Video: ATI VGA Wonder (18800-1) System: MS-DOS 3.3 - Team: The Final Front Ear Credits: 0.18/220. :: BOINC Stats ::

00:59 <efc> In other words, I gave up :p

01:00 <quail> :-(

01:01 <efc> got it sort-of working but then it had problems today so I prefer my 386 readout

01:17 <Soul_keeper> so basically that 16MHz cpu takes the same power as a 2GHz system huh ?

01:18 <efc> If that message was real and it was turned on, maybe

01:18 <efc> a 386 probably uses a few hundred milliwatts, but the board components tended to take more

01:19 <efc> mine didn't even have a heatsink

01:21 <efc> the 7404s on the board probably used as much as the cpu

01:24 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12164

01:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6mza3y> (at www.dailytech.com)

01:24 <Soul_keeper> interesting

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02:06 <Soul_keeper> http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/

02:06 <Romulus> Title: The Website Is Down (at www.thewebsiteisdown.com)

02:06 <Soul_keeper> complete comedy

02:06 <Tank_Master> http://www.rieselsieve.com/

02:06 <Romulus> Title: The Riesel Sieve Project (at www.rieselsieve.com)

02:07 <Soul_keeper> watch that site

02:07 <Tank_Master> possible 1086531 digit prime found

02:08 <Soul_keeper> that's the funniest site i've seen in a long time

02:09 <Tank_Master> sole, is it sad I know that map by hart

02:09 <Soul_keeper> lol  dude's  windows password was  "a"

02:09 <Tank_Master> :P

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03:44 <clusty> i have one question about credit sys with boinc

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03:45 <clusty> i was running rosetta and spinhenge and the second one gave me tons of more credit

03:45 <clusty> 1900 as opposed to 200

03:45 <clusty> why is this happening since the amout of CPU time was similar

03:49 <desti> all results were valid?

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03:56 <clusty> i presume...

03:56 <clusty> i am looking at the statistics graph

03:56 <clusty> in 3 days I gopt way more crdit from one project than another

03:57 <clusty> i am attached to 4 projects

03:57 <clusty> 3 giuve comparable credit

03:57 <clusty> spinhenge gave he 10x more than any of previous ones

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04:41 <zenstar> Hi I'm having problems running boinc under KDE4

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04:45 <zenstar> anyone?

04:46 <desti> drop your question and wait if any1 knows an answer

04:47 <zenstar> thanks.. that's what I'm doing

04:47 <CoderForLife> zenstar could you be a bit more specific as to your problem

04:48 <zenstar> CoderForLife: I'm getting a cert error

04:48 <zenstar> CoderForLife: and it's also dumping files into my home directory whereas it wasn't doing that on gnome.. everything was contained in the Boinc folder

04:51 <desti> boincmgr is allways saving the setting in your home dir

04:51 <zenstar> desti: under Gnome it didn't dump 15 different files in my home folder.. but it does under KDE

04:52 <desti> oh, that's a lot

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04:56 <zenstar> so when I run boinc, it's putting files like 'time_stats_log, all_projects_list.xml, and client_state.xml in my home folder

04:57 <zenstar> and it didn't do this in Gnome. all those files were kept inside the Boinc directory

04:57 <zenstar> (I've switched to KDE)

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04:58 <desti> if i remeber correctly there was an option to set a working dir for boinc

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04:59 <zenstar> desti: I think that's the problem.. it's looking for that cert file which should be in the boinc working directory, but is created outside of it when I try to run boincmgr

05:00 <zenstar> Wed 25 Jun 2008 02:01:10 AM PDT|World Community Grid|Scheduler request failed: Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?)

05:03 <desti> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration_%28advanced%29

05:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/597tmk> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

05:06 <efc> moo

05:06 <desti> m00h

05:09 <CoderForLife> moof

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05:15 <CoderForLife> wait long enough, and they dry themselves

05:17 <efc> Tried that, they grow mold

05:17 <CoderForLife> You've created life!

05:19 <efc> Not my preferred method

05:25 <efc> I should try to understand what these new video cards can really do..

05:27 <efc> as far as being general purpose computers

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05:53 <CoderForLife> red sky at morning...

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06:15 <quail> w00t I am over 15K for this pc

06:16 <quail> 18th this month till now is damn good crunching :-)

06:17 <quail> CoderForLife: howdy mate

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06:32 <hawmps> mornin

06:35 <hawmps> finally put an end to that FSCKNG fox this morning...

06:39 <CoderForLife> morning

06:39 <CoderForLife> that fox will never threaten us again, eh?

06:40 <CoderForLife> morning quail

06:41 <CoderForLife> I just *sniff* shut down 3 machines downstairs - they were boincing along slowly, but I need the power elsewhere

06:46 <CoderForLife> just brought up the ossec webui on F9 this morning - I havdn't seen the later version - looks nice

06:57 <hawmps> yes.. that fox is very much dead now...

06:58 <hawmps> as I said... finally...

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09:10 <hawmps> yea... over 2 million in einstein...

09:13 <Soul_keeper> http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/

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10:31 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

10:32 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 69.4F / 20.8C | Humidity: 26% | Pressure: 23.77in / 804.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 5.8mph / 9.3km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny in the morning...partly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs 78 to 86. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. A 10 percent chance of (1 more message)

10:32 <BadBarbarian> &more

10:32 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: thunderstorms in the evening. Lows 45 to 55. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph in the evening becoming light.; Thursday - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs 79 to 87. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the late morning and afternoon.;

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10:35 <CoderForLife> howdy

10:36 <CoderForLife> hawmps: the HOA officially have approved construction of a retaining wall behind my house

10:37 <CoderForLife> some un-nice storms in northern Indiana

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10:45 <hawmps> Now just get them to "officially approve" some direct compensation to you...

10:54 <CoderForLife> agreed - that would be nice, but not forthcoming

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11:15 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

11:15 <Tank_Master> &more

11:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: That's all, there is no more.

11:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 56.8F / 13.8C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.88in / 1011.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Areas of morning clouds then partly sunny. Highs around 70. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 45 to 50. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then mostly sunny. Highs 75 to (1 more message)

11:15 <Tank_Master> &more

11:15 <Romulus> Tank_Master: 80. Light wind.;

11:16 <CoderForLife> you're just too fast for Rommie

11:17 <CoderForLife> out for some afternoon errands - bbl

11:17 * CoderForLife sees he is away

11:22 <hawmps> &math convert 68000000 acres to square miles

11:22 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: squaremiles is not a valid unit.

11:22 <hawmps> &math convert 68000000 acres to sqmiles

11:22 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: sqmiles is not a valid unit.

11:23 <hawmps> &list units area

11:23 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: 'units' is not a valid plugin.

11:23 <hawmps> &list units

11:23 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: 'units' is not a valid plugin.

11:23 <hawmps> &list area

11:23 <Romulus> hawmps: Error: 'area' is not a valid plugin.

11:24 <hawmps> &units

11:24 <Romulus> hawmps: valid types: mass, length, time, scheduling, temperature, temp. diff., current, charge, potential, resistance, conductance, capacitance, magn. flux, inductance, flux density, molecular qty, size of a mol, lum. intens., luminous flux, illuminance, luminance, angle, solid angle, data, data transfer, quantity, interest rate, concentration, force, area, volume, velocity, rot. velocity, fluid flow, gas (1 more message)

11:24 <hawmps> &units area

11:24 <Romulus> hawmps: area units: square meter, are, hectare, acre, section, township, homestead, circular inch, circular mil

11:25 <hawmps> &google convert 68000000 acres to sqare miles

11:25 <Romulus> hawmps: Search took 0.24 seconds: ERDC/ITL TR-06-XX: <http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/CanolaVol_II.pdf>; JSTOR: What is the Future of American Cotton?: <http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0022-3808(191211)20%3A9%3C886%3AWITFOA%3E2.0.CO%3B2-N>; JSTOR: The Cultural Ecology of India's Sacred Cattle: <http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0011-3204(199202)33%3A1%3C261%3ATCEOIS%3E2.0.CO%3B2-7>; (3 more messages)

11:26 <hawmps> &google calculate 68000000 acres to sqare miles

11:26 <Romulus> hawmps: Search took 0.23 seconds: Volume 92 - Chapter IV. Production - Foreign - Russian Oil Fields ...: <http://www.aimehq.org/search/docs/Volume%20092/092-61.pdf>; The Project Gutenberg EBook of Lectures on Popular and Scientific ...: <http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15468/15468-8.txt>; Chase:Chapter 12: <http://xroads.virginia.edu/~Hyper2/chase/ch12.html>; imotp MINUTES OF THE PROCEEDINGS 1753-7843 (2 more messages)

11:26 <hawmps> 106,250 square miles

11:27 <hawmps> finally

11:28 <hawmps> hmmm... same as state of colorado

11:33 <exco> hell

11:33 <exco> hello I mean - of course

11:52 <hawmps> 'lo

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12:36 <exco> is it normal that the file_deleter causes high CPU load?

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12:43 <hawmps> probably..

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13:58 <hawmps> &ping

13:58 <Romulus> pong

14:15 <CoderForLife> &ping

14:15 <Romulus> pong

14:15 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

14:15 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 82.5F / 28.1C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.31in / 1026.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A 30 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms late in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in (1 more message)

14:19 <CoderForLife> &more

14:19 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the upper 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs around 90. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

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14:22 <exco> if I have 2 apps and one has no work units or is not available for the client does it automatically use the other app?

14:22 <exco> _not available for the client platform

14:23 <CoderForLife> boinc will run apps that have work

14:24 <CoderForLife> unless you suspend that work

14:25 <exco> so what could be the problem if my client states app1 not available for your type of computer although there's an app2 available for that platform?

14:26 <desti> for some projects you must enable a second application in your project settings

14:27 <exco> could it be because I connected clients with different platforms through the same user account?

14:28 <desti> that's no problem

14:29 <exco> does it sound wrong when I add an application through application manager then put a version of that app in .../apps/app/app_xx_...

14:30 <exco> and use ./bin/update_versions to make it known to the project

14:31 <exco> afterwards generating a single wu should suffice for trying?

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15:16 <PovAddict_> exco: "sound wrong"? that's the only right way

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15:19 <PovAddict> exco: if A is available for your platform and B isn't... maybe your server shared memory block is full of B work

15:19 <PovAddict> try using random order in the feeder settings

15:33 * CoderForLife is confused

15:43 <CoderForLife> dang - that was confusing

15:45 <CoderForLife> make then failed - I threw around too many copies of a lib into too many include paths

15:46 <xcamel> re-hi

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15:58 <CoderForLife> looks like Microsloth is going to go ahead and kill off XP

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16:20 <CoderForLife> din-din  bbiab

16:33 <xcamel> BOINC 6.2.9 released for Windows

16:33 <xcamel> &news

16:33 <Romulus> xcamel: No news for #boinc.

16:35 <Didactylos> Well, I *know* this build has bugs in.

16:35 <Didactylos> Wasted build cycle.

16:40 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=2819&nowrap=true#18050

16:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5bb2he> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

16:40 <KathrynM> too harsh?

16:44 <Didactylos> 6.1.0 was basically an early version of 5.10, so it probably has lots of bugs.

16:44 <Didactylos> But none of the shiny new bugs created just for the 6.x line!

16:45 <KathrynM> lol

16:45 <KathrynM> old bugs get so dull

16:45 <KathrynM> we need shiny new bugs

16:45 <Didactylos> Was going to ask you about a bug you reported.

16:46 <KathrynM> uh oh

16:46 <Didactylos> But FF crashed. Let me find it again.

16:46 <KathrynM> how old is it?

16:46 <Didactylos> Ancient.

16:46 <KathrynM> probably one I migrated from boinczilla

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16:47 <Didactylos> This one: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/ticket/36

16:47 <Romulus> Title: #36 (Something graphical (DX?) gets) - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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16:48 <KathrynM> yeah, one i migrated.  I'm not sure why there isn't a message about that in there.  Must have been sleeping on the job.

16:48 <KathrynM> Or doing it in the middle of the night ;)

16:49 <Didactylos> Can you close it if you can't reproduce it?

16:50 <KathrynM> I never tried to reproduce it.  I just migrated it.

16:50 <Didactylos> Oh, I see. Posted by is empty, and I misread it.

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17:01 <CoderForLife> baaack

17:01 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM Did

17:01 <CoderForLife> lol

17:02 <CoderForLife> Didactylos

17:02 <xcamel> looks like some storms just north of you...

17:02 <CoderForLife> yeah

17:03 <CoderForLife> they've been slipping around to the north

17:03 <CoderForLife> I may get run over by this one

17:03 <xcamel> that's on tap for tomorrow here.. with a little extra punch...

17:03 <CoderForLife> damn quirky local TV radar

17:03 <xcamel> did I mention I terminated that damn fscking fox?

17:04 <xcamel> ....finally....

17:04 <CoderForLife> you were bragging on that this morning

17:04 <CoderForLife> you should have it mounted

17:04 <xcamel> :-)

17:04 <xcamel> burries - and it can rot in hell.

17:04 <xcamel> er burried, even.

17:05 <CoderForLife> maybe he'll eventually berry =)

17:07 <xcamel> American airlines pulls out of albany entirely... oh crap.

17:07 <CoderForLife> aw

17:07 <xcamel> there goes the prices again...

17:08 <CoderForLife> pretty soon you'll have to buy a passenger ticket for your luggage

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17:19 <xcamel> don't give them any ideas...

17:19 <PovAddict> lol

17:20 <xcamel> 'lo Nic

17:21 <PovAddict> hello

17:21 <Tank_Master> hi

17:22 <PovAddict> I see BOINC moved to 6.2 a while ago (.2, even number meaning not "alpha" anymore) and yet we reached 6.2.9 without a release

17:23 <PovAddict> users will upgrade from 5.10.45 to 6.2.38 wondering why they missed so many versions :P

17:23 <Didactylos> This is a direct result of moving from alpha to "Release Candidate" without ever asking if it is ready (or getting the required test results).

17:24 <PovAddict> most ridiculous is saying "please we need the test results as soon as possible" even though there were already reported bugs being ignored

17:24 <Didactylos> Critical bugs were reassigned to future versions without explanation.

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17:27 <PovAddict> my email had wording wrong... I intended to say "Do you seriously mean to release with a hundred bugs unfixed? If you *are* stupid enough to do that, at least say so honestly and mark bugs as 'will fix later'.", but they took the latter part as a real suggestion

17:27 <PovAddict> (also, I think it was done by editing the DB directly, since there were no milestone change messages)

17:27 <Didactylos> I noticed that, too.

17:28 <Didactylos> I have been considering forking for some months, now.

17:29 <Didactylos> Who else is interested in taking back some control of the development process?

17:29 <PovAddict> too bad the protocol makes it hard; but at least it's not impossible

17:29 <Didactylos> Start small, that's the key.

17:30 <Didactylos> Cut the dead weight.

17:30 <PovAddict> I mean the minimum-client-version logic the server could have

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17:31 <Didactylos> Yes, there are all sorts of hacks in there.

17:31 <PovAddict> project admins can force a min version

17:31 <Didactylos> A fork would have to mimic version info.

17:31 * PovAddict explains the problem for the 20th time:

17:32 <PovAddict> official client added feature A in 5.2, feature B in 5.4; a project needs B, so it asks for min version 5.4

17:32 <PovAddict> if a fork (or implementation from scratch) of the client has B but not A, what version do you pretend to be?

17:32 <CoderForLife> 42

17:34 <Didactylos> And I can't believe there are actual FOSSILS in Trac.

17:34 <PovAddict> using version numbers instead of feature lists is inherently flawed; but I can see why it happened (nobody ever thought of the possibility of a non-official client)

17:36 <Didactylos> The server code isn't even versioned at all. And that has to be the cruellest joke of all...

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18:07 <Tank_Master> isnt it versioned by build date?

18:07 <PovAddict> project admins "build" it themselves anyway

18:07 <Tank_Master> oh

18:07 <PovAddict> exactly

18:08 <PovAddict> and download it directly from the code repository

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18:28 <Soul_keeper> awesome i got my fans !!

18:28 <Soul_keeper> lol they are even more powerfull than i thought

18:28 <Soul_keeper> they mislabeled them on the website and said 1.45amps 174 watts   but they are actually 1.74 amps   :)

18:34 <xcamel> re-back

18:35 <Soul_keeper> now i need to go down to radioshack and buy 3 25 watt variable resistors

18:35 <Soul_keeper> hi

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19:09 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 87.1F / 30.6C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with scattered thunderstorms. Low around 70. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 40 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny with a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the upper 80s. South wind near 10 (1 more message)

19:09 <wdsmia> &more

19:09 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph shifting to the southeast in the afternoon.; Thursday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 50 percent chance of thunderstorms. Low around 70. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.;

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19:41 <PovAddict> quiet...

19:47 <efc> moo

19:55 <KathrynM> moaning

20:07 * CoderForLife moans

20:08 <CoderForLife> too bad it's 15 years until retirement

20:09 <CoderForLife> for now - time to think about resting

20:09 <CoderForLife> gn all

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20:15 <Soul_keeper> it's ok to pull 75watts off of one molex connector's 12v rail  on a quality psu right ?

20:16 <Soul_keeper> hmm  100 watts potentially

20:16 <efc> The rails should be individually rated somewhere

20:16 <Soul_keeper> yeah the weak link probably wouldn't be the wire guage

20:16 <KathrynM> ooo... passed 250K at E@H

20:20 <Soul_keeper> turns out my fan controller isn't rated to handle my new fans

20:20 <Soul_keeper> it's rated up to 18 watts per connector, these fans will be pulling about 21 watts

20:23 <xcamel> you'll have a computer controlled vacuum cleaner...

20:23 <KathrynM> lol

20:24 <PovAddict> I already have one thank you very much

20:24 <KathrynM> why am I not surprised

20:24 * efc looks into hacking win2k for quad core

20:24 <PovAddict> (seriously, it feels like I'd have to vacuum my computer *daily* to keep it clean)

20:24 <PovAddict> at least the front fans

20:24 <KathrynM> sounds like the computers at w@*&

20:25 <Soul_keeper> i just don't like running an air conditioner in my house just to keep my pc stable

20:25 <KathrynM> roughly 1 month to the 1 million mark :D

20:26 <xcamel> just hit 2M with einstein

20:26 <KathrynM> that's it... rain on my parade :p

20:26 <xcamel> not hardly...

20:26 <Soul_keeper> so my total system power usage will go up by 45 watts after this fan upgrade

20:27 <KathrynM> holy cow

20:27 <KathrynM> claimed 208, granted 1000

20:27 <PovAddict> o.o

20:27 <KathrynM> abc

20:27 <KathrynM> 64 bit app

20:27 <efc> 1 month to a million, they must grant a lot of credit

20:28 <KathrynM> stupid amounts of credit for the 64 bit app

20:28 <KathrynM> http://abcathome.com/results.php?userid=90

20:28 <Romulus> Title: Please log in (at abcathome.com)

20:28 <KathrynM> darn it

20:28 <KathrynM> thought that link worked

20:28 <KathrynM> http://abcathome.com/results.php?hostid=42751

20:28 <Romulus> Title: Results for computer (at abcathome.com)

20:28 <xcamel> abc is a pest project...

20:29 <KathrynM> oh well.  I'd love to stay and chat, but the kiddies are eager to sing their stupid songs

20:29 <KathrynM> later gator

20:29 <PovAddict> l8r

20:29 <PovAddict> abc always does that crap with credits

20:29 <PovAddict> knowingly

20:30 <PovAddict> some WUs always give exactly a thousand credits regardless of how much time they tool

20:30 <PovAddict> took*

20:30 <PovAddict> ("those" workunits are usually quite long though)

20:30 <PovAddict> note it was the one where you claimed the most

20:31 <PovAddict> only with claim > 200

20:32 <efc> brb

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20:33 <PovAddict> cross-project credits are impossible...

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20:48 <zombie67> abc awards credits a bit differently

20:48 <zombie67> the longer the job takes, the more awarded, almost geometrically

20:48 <zombie67> with a 1000 cap

20:48 <PovAddict> should be linearly

20:48 <PovAddict> "the longer the job takes, the more awarded" is what all projects do

20:48 <zombie67> i know

20:48 <zombie67> they had a reason...

20:49 <zombie67> let me look

20:49 <PovAddict> or you mean "the longer the job takes, the more awarded per second"?

20:49 <zombie67> yes

20:49 <PovAddict> yeah they always have a reason... I remember this one project that when it just appeared it gave 100x what all other projects do

20:49 <zombie67> http://abcathome.com/forum_thread.php?id=148&nowrap=true#3360

20:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/57787q> (at abcathome.com)

20:50 <zombie67> exponential, that's the word I was trying to recall (not geometric).

20:50 <PovAddict> under that logic, how much should CPDN grant?

20:50 <zombie67> yeah, but CPDN has trickle

20:51 <zombie67> so if it blows up, you still get points for work done

20:51 <PovAddict> QMC?

20:51 <Romulus> I guess QMC is refusing to cough up any more WUs for me, PovAddict

20:52 <zombie67> QMC used to over-award all tasks

20:52 <zombie67> with ABC, it is only a few sprinkled throughout

20:52 <zombie67> the big ones are not common at all

20:53 <zombie67> on the other hand, their 64 bit app is 2-3 times faster than their 32 bit app.  THAT is sweet!

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20:54 <efc> hmm, diff isn't giving me a binary diff..

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21:11 <efc> heh, I found direction to hex edit tcpip.sys to remove some connection limits. Not for the feint of heart.

21:14 <Soul_keeper> wouldn't be easier just to use linux

21:14 <Soul_keeper> would*

21:15 <Soul_keeper> linux don't have limits

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21:23 <PovAddict> efc: binary diff? what for?

21:24 <PovAddict> if you want to see where files differ, use cmp (not too user-friendly) or a graphical tool dedicated for that (maybe an advanced hex editor has such feature)

21:24 <efc> I was using cygwin :p

21:24 <efc> but I figured it out

21:24 <PovAddict> if you want a diff that you can later use as a patch, search for xdelta3

21:24 <efc> Got a different tool

21:25 <efc> I was diffing the windows registries to see what the difference is between when you're running single and dual processors

21:26 <PovAddict> why binary then? make a text dump and diff that :)

21:26 <efc> Its unicode I think

21:26 <efc> tools didn't seem to get it

21:26 <efc> I found what I needed at any rate

21:26 <PovAddict> ah yeah, UTF-16

21:26 <efc> I think I can successfully hack windows 2k to run quad core, or maybe even 64 core..

21:32 <efc> I guess I should try it on a different machine :p

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22:00 <xcamel> laterz..

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22:44 <zombie67> one of my 8-way crunchers just had the HD fail.

22:45 <zombie67> i had been getting "SMART" warnings for a couple weeks now

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23:06 <wdsmia> dang Mother nature is sure putting on a light show tonight

23:07 <efc> Threaten to call the cops

23:36 <efc> hmm, grep must be able to do that utf-16..

23:48 <zombie67> Check it out!  http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_host_graph.php?pr=bo&id=2631507

23:48 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats | BOINC combined - Host stats - Detailed statistics for Host ID 2631507 (at boincstats.com)

23:48 <zombie67> my PS3 broke 1,000,000 credits on 06/04.  In less than a year.

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