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01:59 <Tidus> &wx 72764
01:59 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 65.1°F / 18.4°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Cloudy then becoming mostly cloudy late in the evening then becoming partly cloudy. Slight chance of rain showers and isolated thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 60s. Light winds. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Sunday - (1 more message)
01:59 <Tidus> &more
01:59 <Romulus> Tidus: Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Northwest winds around 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 50s. Light winds.;
02:08 <efc> moo
02:09 <BadBarbarian> moo too
02:09 <Tidus> moo^3
02:10 <yoyo[RKN]> moo^4
02:15 <Tidus> so what is everybody up to today?
02:32 <efc> work
02:35 <yoyo[RKN]> soccer watching
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04:36 <CoderForLife> ack
04:36 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 70.5°F / 21.4°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.42in / 996.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms this morning...then mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely this afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. (2 more messages)
04:36 <CoderForLife> &more
04:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely early in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers in the morning... then showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 70s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. (1 more message)
04:36 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife
04:36 <CoderForLife> &more
04:36 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Gusts up to 30 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 60 percent.;
04:37 <KathrynM> rain rain go away
04:37 <CoderForLife> morning Ms KathrynM
04:37 * CoderForLife hands a Sunday apple to Teacher
04:37 <KathrynM> awwwwwwwww :)
04:37 <KathrynM> it's shiny
04:38 <KathrynM> I've done battle with fstab. If I ever want to boot to Kubuntu again, I'll need to do battle with grub.
04:38 <CoderForLife> I made it shine myself
04:38 <KathrynM> Now if I could figure out why sound basically doesn't work.
04:38 <CoderForLife> my new F9 box quite talking to me yesterday - web, SSH, VNC
04:38 <CoderForLife> er quit
04:39 <CoderForLife> I'm guessing it forgot how to speak IPv4 again
04:39 <KathrynM> well that's annoying
04:39 <CoderForLife> yup - I'm worried about F9
04:40 <KathrynM> which is why I decided F8 was safer
04:40 <CoderForLife> I thought about that
04:41 <KathrynM> mplayer doesn't have sound. amorak doesn't have sound. flash videos in ff don't have sound
04:41 <CoderForLife> atm I'm going to try to make the box speak to me again, thenI thought about runnign httpd.i386 and php.i386, rather than the x86_64 versions, and see if that beats the seg faults
04:42 <KathrynM> might. 64 bit can still be flaky
04:42 <CoderForLife> that's my current plan
04:42 <KathrynM> nice, but when I do the sound card detection, I have sound through that.
04:43 * KathrynM goes to join #fedora
04:43 <CoderForLife> lol
04:43 <CoderForLife> they wouldn't have me there =)
04:43 * CoderForLife looks at news, before going to the data center, and breakfast
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04:56 <CoderForLife> OK time to look at the box and get breakfast - brb
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05:28 <CoderForLife> b
05:30 <KathrynM> wb
05:30 <KathrynM> get the box fixed?
05:30 <CoderForLife> thx
05:30 <CoderForLife> um no
05:31 <CoderForLife> eth0 is inactive at bootup
05:31 <CoderForLife> I activate it, and the box responds to pings, but not http
05:31 <KathrynM> ya know, same thing on my F7 x64 machine
05:31 <CoderForLife> I restart the entwork service, and eth0 goes inactive
05:32 <CoderForLife> network*
05:32 <KathrynM> that's not good
05:32 <CoderForLife> when I need the Tree Herders to respond, I'll let them know
05:32 <KathrynM> I've got sound again
05:33 * CoderForLife applauds loudly
05:33 <KathrynM> had to restart pulseaudio
05:35 <CoderForLife> I'm about out of time for messing around with that box today
05:35 <CoderForLife> I got to prep for going back to w@#% tomorrow
05:36 <KathrynM> ugh
05:37 <CoderForLife> another issue here may be that one of the 2 laptops running grabbed the server IP address
05:37 <CoderForLife> I'll look at that in a bit
05:38 <KathrynM> aern't computers fun?
05:40 * CoderForLife bangs his head slowly. methodically and forcefully upon his desk
05:41 * KathrynM puts a large fluffy pillow between CoderForLife's head and his desk
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05:41 * CoderForLife goes immediately to sleep
05:42 <KathrynM> :)
05:43 <CoderForLife> Zzzz
05:44 * CoderForLife snaps awake
05:44 <CoderForLife> the box is e-mailing me, and I can SSH into it
05:45 <KathrynM> woo hoo
05:45 * CoderForLife starts httpd service
05:45 <CoderForLife> Apahe is now up
05:45 <CoderForLife> Apache 2 too
05:46 <CoderForLife> Apache 2 too twain
05:46 <CoderForLife> woot woot
05:46 <KathrynM> ;)
05:47 * CoderForLife wonders what movie that was...
05:48 <CoderForLife> Ah, Neil Simon's "Murder By Death"
05:49 <CoderForLife> 22 Twain
05:49 <CoderForLife> wow 1976
05:50 <CoderForLife> I saw the movie on a date
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05:58 <CoderForLife> ack: Device: /dev/sda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate changed from 253 to 100
05:59 <KathrynM> uh oh
05:59 <CoderForLife> wattup wit dat?
06:00 <KathrynM> computer gods really picking on your
06:00 <KathrynM> computers
06:00 <KathrynM> and you too
06:00 <CoderForLife> looks like the read error rate is getting *better*
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06:27 <CoderForLife> brb
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06:50 <KathrynM> w.t.f.......... Firefox was taking 189% of the cpu (as shown by top)
06:51 <KathrynM> no wonder the whole computer ground to a halt
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07:37 <CoderForLife> b
07:37 <CoderForLife> hmm Firefox blew up on my XP machine
08:10 <KathrynM> what's up with FF tonight? I'd say it blew up on my machine too. Although I think I can blame it on flash more than FF.
08:11 <xcamel> 'lo
08:12 <KathrynM> evening x
08:18 <CoderForLife> hello xcamel
08:18 <xcamel> mornin CFL
08:18 <CoderForLife> I don't know KathrynM - I left Firefox running and it fscked itself
08:25 <KathrynM> lol
08:25 <CoderForLife> My Code would never do such an unseemly thing
08:25 <KathrynM> I managed to fsk fstab earlier
08:25 <KathrynM> to the point where I couldn't boot the machine
08:25 <KathrynM> and of course installing the new version of Fedora fscked grub
08:25 <KathrynM> So I had to boot to a Live CD to fix things.
08:25 <CoderForLife> I jumped in the hole, and pulled the hole in after it
08:26 <CoderForLife> er it*
08:26 <CoderForLife> I guess I jumped in the hole after it
08:26 <KathrynM> lol
08:26 <KathrynM> as long as your outta the hole
08:26 <KathrynM> I figure next weekend I'll do battle with grub.
08:27 <KathrynM> I can only handle so many battles. And this weekend I went over my quota.
08:27 <CoderForLife> I know how you feel, in part
08:28 <KathrynM> I think CSI Miami is about to start. So I shall depart to my bed, put the TV on the sleep timer and probably fall asleep before Hortaio soles the crime
08:28 <KathrynM> uhhh solves the crime that is
08:28 <CoderForLife> ok tc cya
08:28 <KathrynM> I'm a bit dyslexic tonight too
08:28 <KathrynM> Horatio
08:28 <KathrynM> anywho. nighty night
08:28 <CoderForLife> I'm a bit lysdexic
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08:34 <xcamel> brilliant beople dent to be a tib lysdexic
08:34 <CoderForLife> soluteably
08:35 * CoderForLife salutes
08:35 <xcamel> [NEWS] Beach pizza shop employee fatally shoots robber, police say
08:36 <xcamel> ..."What do you want on your tombstone?"
08:38 <CoderForLife> heh
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09:02 <xcamel> wow - 72F 100% humidity..
09:04 <CoderForLife> don't stir the air - you'll have a flood
09:05 <xcamel> never seen "100%" on my weather box..
09:06 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
09:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 70.8°F / 21.6°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.42in / 996.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms this morning...then mostly cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely this afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 30 mph. (2 more messages)
09:06 <CoderForLife> you get the "ugh" award
09:17 <xcamel> &wx 12074
09:17 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 71.3°F / 21.8°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1009.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Scattered showers and slight chance of thunderstorms this morning...then numerous thunderstorms this afternoon. Some thunderstorms may be severe with heavy rainfall this afternoon. Highs in the mid 80s. South (2 more messages)
09:17 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86023
09:17 <xcamel> seems mighty close to the same
09:17 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 45°F / 7°C | Humidity: 46% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 80 on the North Rim to around 107 along the Colorado River. Light winds.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 48 on the North Rim to around 67 along the Colorado River. (1 more message)
09:17 <BadBarbarian> &more
09:17 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Light winds.; Monday - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs around 82 on the North Rim to around 108 along the Colorado River. Light winds.;
09:17 <BadBarbarian> "lo xcamel
09:19 <xcamel> 'lo BB
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10:13 <wdsmia_> &wx 50319
10:13 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Temperature: 66.1°F / 18.9°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.95in / 1014.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4.0mph / 6.4km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers in the morning... then a slight chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 70s. Northwest wind 15 to 20 mph with gusts to around 30 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; (1 more message)
10:13 <wdsmia_> &more
10:13 <Romulus> wdsmia_: Tonight - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 50s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.; Monday - Sunny. High in the lower 80s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Flood Warning for Polk County in effect until 4:36 PM CDT on July 01, 2008;
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10:28 <xcamel> my weather box can't display humidity of 101%
10:29 <xcamel> it says " --% "
10:41 <MikeC`> your underwater?
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10:49 <xcamel> might as well be - it dropped back to 97%
10:49 <MikeC`> nasty
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10:53 <xcamel> good chance of big storms later.. nothing firing up yet though
10:55 <MikeC`> had ours yesterday, lost power for a couple of minutes while i was out
10:57 <surrealillusionx> i need to get new UPS's
10:57 <surrealillusionx> for my systems
10:57 <surrealillusionx> im looking at one of those apc 1500xl's
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10:59 * CoderForLife runs smartctl test on his new F9 box = getting some soft read error messages
11:00 <CoderForLife> "long" test due to complete in a half hour
11:00 <MikeC`> just got batteries for my old apc 1300xl and 1000
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11:00 <xcamel> I have a pair of RS/XS 1500's that work pretty well...
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11:01 <MikeC`> wish i could get the software to work right, it would be nice if boinc stopped and they had some more runtime
11:02 <xcamel> It helps to have a backup generator...
11:03 <MikeC`> definitely something i'm getting when i buy a house
11:08 <CoderForLife> I did
11:08 <MikeC`> gas turbine?
11:09 <CoderForLife> yeah 10MW diesel black start
11:09 <CoderForLife> j/k
11:09 <MikeC`> hehe
11:09 <CoderForLife> 15kw gasoline powered
11:09 <CoderForLife> can peak to 22kW
11:10 <CoderForLife> can run the whole house, including the central air
11:10 <MikeC`> nice
11:10 <CoderForLife> the forner owner had the house wired for generator for Y2K
11:11 <MikeC`> lol, so you have transfer panel?
11:11 <CoderForLife> yep
11:13 <MikeC`> all you need now is some solar panels and battery bank ;)
11:16 <CoderForLife> and the homeonwer's association to look the other way
11:17 <MikeC`> ahh, those suck
11:39 <xcamel> mine is 27KW diesel..
11:39 <xcamel> runs the whole farm when needed
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11:49 <Romulus> Title: Interactive Linux kernel map (at www.makelinux.net)
11:51 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: don't try to understand SMART 'Raw' values yourself
11:52 <CoderForLife> looking at Read_Soft_Error_Rate ATM
11:52 <CoderForLife> raw value
11:52 <CoderForLife> 28222825
11:52 <CoderForLife> o_O
11:53 <CoderForLife> and Hardware_ECC_Recovered is the same value
11:53 <CoderForLife> Dr. Google is being unhelpful
11:58 <CoderForLife> lunch time - bbl
12:13 <quail> evening all
12:14 <quail> &wx ypad
12:14 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 59Â°F / 15Â°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.74in / 1007hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 1:30 AM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Rain. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
12:37 <quail> very quiet in here this evening
12:40 <CoderForLife> indeed
12:43 <quail> howdy Don
12:50 <CoderForLife> hello Dale
13:00 <yoyo[RKN]> &weather berlin, germany
13:00 <Romulus> yoyo[RKN]: Temperature: 78.6Â°F / 25.9Â°C | Humidity: 31% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 10.4mph / 16.7km/h | Updated: 6:43 PM CEST; Scattered Clouds. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Scattered (1 more message)
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14:07 <CoderForLife> wb dizzie
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14:08 <dizzie> Thank you
14:08 <CoderForLife> u2 [B^S]renemayer
14:08 <dizzie> Got Debian running on my Macbook :)
14:09 <CoderForLife> soory to hear about your troubles =)
14:09 <dizzie> Haha
14:09 <dizzie> Anything but wintendo is good :)
14:10 * CoderForLife redesigns/reroutes the gutter piping on his house
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14:10 <CoderForLife> wb PovAddict
14:10 <PovAddict> X crashed
14:11 <PovAddict> nVidia's fault
14:11 <CoderForLife> the first thing we do here is assign blame
14:11 <dizzie> Assign Blame: >NIL:
14:11 <dizzie> Done :)
14:11 <PovAddict> Backtrace:
14:11 <PovAddict> 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x6a) [0x48402a]
14:11 <PovAddict> 1: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x7fcf9fc76100]
14:11 <PovAddict> 2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so(_nv000759X+0x68) [0x7fcf9d712b78]
14:12 <dizzie> GLX ?
14:12 <PovAddict> I use compiz-fusion, I don't even know which of XGL or AIGLX is in use
14:20 <dizzie> X fails to run on this MacBook
14:21 <CoderForLife> sorry to hear about your troubles =)
14:21 * CoderForLife runs away
14:21 * dizzie serves freshbrewed coffee
14:22 <dizzie> I'm only in trouble when wife starts to yell :)
14:26 <CoderForLife> ah yes, wives...
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15:02 <xcamel> humidity dropped, then shot way back up
15:02 <xcamel> now 80/60
15:03 * Soul_keeper wonders if bring an athlon 2000+, p3 800 celeron, and 800mhz laptop, online would matter
15:03 <xcamel> makes the dewpoint 66
15:04 <Soul_keeper> i had good times with that 2000+ athlon, pushed it to over 1yr uptime, untill the 2006 fire season caused a major power outtage
15:04 <Soul_keeper> havn't run it since
15:18 <Soul_keeper> "Also Sunday, Agence-France Presse reported that Iran has announced it plans to dig 320,000 graves in border districts to allow for the burial of enemy soldiers in the event of any attack on its territory."
15:49 <MrBIOS> sheez, crazies
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16:40 <xcamel> re-hi
16:40 <Soul_keeper> bla
16:41 <xcamel> lol
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17:01 <Soul_keeper> yo
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17:04 <CoderForLife> back
17:05 <infinisoft> whats the purpose of the last character in GUI RPC replys
17:05 <PovAddict> infinisoft: in theory, marking where it ends
17:05 <PovAddict> in practice, the client doesn't care about it; but *send it anyway*
17:07 <infinisoft> Ah
17:08 <PovAddict> &bw GuiRpcProtocol
17:08 <infinisoft> I'm making a PHP script to scan my network for running clients so my web scripts won't time out
17:08 <PovAddict> very incomplete ;)
17:09 <infinisoft> Plus my router's IP reservations aren't working too well for some reason :/
17:09 <PovAddict> use static IP on the individual machines...
17:09 <PovAddict> instead of telling the router to give out a specific IP over DHCP
17:10 <infinisoft> True, still need for when a host goes offline
17:12 * CoderForLife comes back to #boinc, where no one talks about soccer
17:14 * infinisoft would still LOVE a XML for results.php
17:14 <xcamel> could be an ugly line of weather on the way...
17:14 <infinisoft> There's a lot of macros floating around now for web scraping results to a Excel spreadsheet
17:14 <CoderForLife> you or me?
17:14 <PovAddict> infinisoft: download the server code, add the XML version, and send it to the developers
17:15 * CoderForLife looks at long range radar
17:15 <xcamel> A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 PM FOR THE ENTIRE NEWS 10 FORECAST AREA....STAY TUNED TO NEWS 10 FOR THE LATEST.
17:15 <CoderForLife> ugh
17:15 <infinisoft> Pov: YEah, might have to ;)
17:16 <xcamel> 79/71 dpt 68
17:16 <CoderForLife> I've just got some spotty stuff - no widespread organization
17:17 <xcamel> this seems to be the first half of "the front"
17:17 * CoderForLife pans the radar view toward NY
17:18 <CoderForLife> you're looking at a wall
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17:19 <CoderForLife> wb dizzie
17:19 <dizzie> Hello :)
17:25 <xcamel> indeed .. looks like an "sfter dark" event...
17:25 <xcamel> if it all holds together...
17:25 <CoderForLife> mm-hmm
17:45 * CoderForLife drives by Jay's place again on Google street view
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17:49 <CoderForLife> ya know, xcamel - Google street view indicates that they've done the "left side" of W Galway Rd at the stop sign, but when you follow Consaul you can't "turn left"
17:56 <quail> morning all
17:57 <CoderForLife> all bid you greetings
17:57 <quail> how are you Don?
17:58 <CoderForLife> today I am worried
17:58 <quail> &wx ypad
17:58 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 55Â°F / 13Â°C | Humidity: 67% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 24mph / 39km/h | Updated: 7:19 AM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Rain. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
17:58 <quail> why?
17:58 <CoderForLife> about a great many things
17:59 <quail> oh
17:59 <wdsmia> weather looks to be getting ugly up Jay's way
18:00 <quail> we had a storm here early this morning
18:01 <CoderForLife> yeah - he's watching it, and I am looking at it too
18:01 <CoderForLife> get any rain quail?
18:02 <quail> only a little bit
18:02 <CoderForLife> mm
18:04 <Romulus> Title: 128 km Adelaide (Buckland Park) Radar (at mirror.bom.gov.au)
18:04 <quail> and I am down were is says McLaren Vale
18:06 <quail> and here the animated map from the radar closest to me >>> http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR463.loop.shtml
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18:16 <CoderForLife> mostly light stuff
18:31 * Soul_keeper wants more power
18:31 <Soul_keeper> nobody wants to join my boinc team ...
18:31 <CoderForLife> a desparate despot
18:32 <Soul_keeper> the process of attraction rather than promotion does not work with boinc
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18:53 <Soul_keeper> http://www.discountpv.com/solar_panels/sp-5-12v.htm
18:53 <Soul_keeper> 200 of those could supply 1000watts, enough for atleast 3 computers i figure
18:54 <Soul_keeper> cost of over 12k tho
18:55 <Soul_keeper> 200watt panels are like 1k
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18:56 <jsilvia> An open question: Does anyone here think it's possible to achieve 4000 work units per day, running Seti@home on 7 Xeon-based computers with Windows XP?
18:57 <PovAddict> I don't know how long SETI WUs are anymore :P
18:57 <jsilvia> I've got a psycho friend who wants to dedicate a few blade chassis to doing SETI, and we're looking at putting in dual Xeon quads @ 2.5ghz each
18:58 <Soul_keeper> 15k for a single 3000 watt panel
18:58 <Romulus> Title: ¤ Discount Solar: Your source for low cost, high quality solar panels (at www.discountpv.com)
18:58 <jsilvia> What I've been trying to figure out is what kind of performance can be expected of these without actually buying the setup and doing a benchmark.
18:58 <Soul_keeper> http://www.solarhome.com/thecarbonbustermaxviii.htm
18:59 <quail> Soul_keeper: I think that a bit rude considering you paying cost to 400$ for the panel
18:59 <PovAddict> jsilvia: look in boincstats.com for a computer with similar specs
18:59 <quail> s/cost/close
19:00 <jsilvia> It's difficult to glean the info I want though - seems like they're working on "credits" or something virtual like that - I'm more interested in actual units of completion, not this "virtual credit" shit they're pushing now.
19:00 <wdsmia> asks jsilvia to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
19:00 <Soul_keeper> jsilvia 4000 should be easily acheivable, depends on the kind of xeon, how many cores in each of the 7 systems, and the clock speeds
19:00 <PovAddict> jsilvia: well there is no way to know how many WUs/day a computer does
19:00 <PovAddict> not even looking at SETI website directly; WUs may get deleted from the database faster than that
19:01 <Soul_keeper> yeah these solar panel companies are a little fishy
19:01 <jsilvia> When I first started running the client on my laptop, I pulled 2 WU in 2 hours on 2 cores.
19:01 <Soul_keeper> it's like the rebates/tax credits are more important than their prices
19:01 <jsilvia> Scaling that upwards, I figure a pair of quads should at least do 4 time sbetter.
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19:02 <Soul_keeper> are they P4 based xeons ? core2 based xeons ?
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19:02 <jsilvia> so, basically, what I'm hoping for is a minimum of 144 WU per blade/day.
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19:03 <jsilvia> My laptop's a 2.5ghz core2duo - one of Dells latest - had it a month. about to replace it too with a D830, same cpu, bigger screen
19:03 <Soul_keeper> yeah you gotta know more info
19:04 <jsilvia> The system I'm contacted to build will have 26 supermicro datacenter chassis with 14 dual Xeon blades each, with 12gb of ram per blade and 2.5ghz quad-core harpertown xeons.
19:04 <quail> this my laptop
19:04 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 | Dual Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2050 @ 1.60GHz 800.000 MHz | Bogomips: 6404.07 | Mem: 549/1003M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 72.13G Free: 64.32G | Procs: 116 | Uptime: 1 day 15 hrs 59 mins 6 secs | Load: 0.00 0.03 0.07 | Screen: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) @ 1280x800 (32 bpp) GPU clock: | wlan0: In: 408.22M Ou
19:04 <jsilvia> that is, dual 2.5ghz quad-core harpertown xeons, per blade
19:05 <Soul_keeper> jsilvia, ok harpertown :) yes you'll easily break 4k a day
19:05 <PovAddict> jsilvia: so 8 cores with 12GB RAM to play with?
19:05 <jsilvia> yes
19:05 <Soul_keeper> i can break 4k a day with just two c2d systems
19:05 <PovAddict> I think that's more RAM than needed
19:05 <PovAddict> how much RAM does a single SETI WU use nowadays?
19:05 <jsilvia> really?
19:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah seti uses next to nothing
19:05 <PovAddict> correction, I think that's *way* more than needed
19:05 <Soul_keeper> could easily run seti on a system with 256MB
19:05 <Soul_keeper> i have ...
19:06 <PovAddict> I don't recall SETI using more than 100MB/WU
19:06 <jsilvia> I was planning on using most of the ram as ramdisk, as these blades will be booting off DHCP and running off a read-only NFS partition
19:06 <Soul_keeper> probably a little over 32MB per WU max
19:06 <PovAddict> and you're giving it 1.5GB/core
19:06 <jsilvia> yes
19:06 <jsilvia> you do realize that by Jan'09 we'll have 8 cores/socket from Intel, right?
19:06 <quail> PovAddict: this how my new box is going crunching seti >>> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4443449
19:07 <Soul_keeper> seti is using less than 30MB of disk space here
19:07 <Soul_keeper> question is will all those cores be enough to ever get you in the top 100 of seti
19:08 <jsilvia> Lets see - 26 chassis, 14 blades each, 8 cores/blade - that's 2912 cores
19:08 <PovAddict> how many credits/day do you think that beast will do, Sk?
19:08 <jsilvia> What scares me is the power draw - since we're talking 24kw per cabinet with only 4 chassis per..
19:09 <Soul_keeper> probably over 2 million per day
19:09 <jsilvia> jesus
19:09 <jsilvia> so is it a safe guess that a single blade should pull more than 5000 WU/day, or what?
19:09 <PovAddict> impossible; top-1 user has 336k/day
19:10 <PovAddict> (has computer list hidden)
19:10 <Soul_keeper> yeah 5k should be easy
19:10 <jsilvia> per blade??
19:10 <jsilvia> I figure we'll run Ubuntu Server, stripped and optimized for Boinc.
19:10 <PovAddict> that's 336k *credits* per day, and I have no idea how many machines
19:10 <jsilvia> That or perhaps a debian distro
19:11 <Soul_keeper> yeah my 4 cores (two c2d systems) clocked at 3GHz running optimized apps get me up to 4k a day
19:11 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: I searched you on BOINCStats, I think your CPID is quite split
19:12 <Soul_keeper> CPID ?
19:12 <PovAddict> or did you only ever run four projects?
19:12 <Soul_keeper> yeah just 4
19:12 <PovAddict> then yeah that's you; and currently at 3954 credits/day
19:12 <PovAddict> and it's not split then :)
19:13 <Soul_keeper> :)
19:13 <Soul_keeper> i ran seti 24/7 the last week
19:14 <Soul_keeper> now running wcg 24/7 for atleast the next week
19:14 <jsilvia> Quail, where on your stats screen does it say "x work units/day" or at all?
19:15 <PovAddict> jsilvia: nowhere
19:15 <PovAddict> projects don't calculate that
19:15 <jsilvia> So it's "credits" then??
19:16 <jsilvia> such as average credit, which i assume is tallied/day?
19:16 <PovAddict> credits per workunit aren't constant, depends on how long the workunit is
19:16 <jsilvia> So are credits normalizing that?
19:16 <jsilvia> I know about the "more detailed" WU's
19:16 <Soul_keeper> i'd customize compile the latest stable boinc, add the latest ssse3 optimized seti AK app to the dir, then copy that BOINC directory accross all the blades
19:17 <PovAddict> there you see how many credits each WU got
19:18 <jsilvia> Custom-compile eh? That can be done - we'll probably run a copy of VMware in the master node, just so that we can have a fully operational booting/interactive blade OS master to play with
19:18 <jsilvia> One that includes the compiler...
19:19 <Soul_keeper> since all the blades are the same, a single optimized compile should work on them all
19:19 <PovAddict> don't use the stock SETI app
19:19 <jsilvia> good to know - thanks
19:19 <PovAddict> either compile it yourself targeted at your CPU, or use an optimized binary (like AK's)
19:19 <jsilvia> so this guy, who's running the windows app, is likely not seeing anything nearly as good as running it optimized for the machine
19:20 <jsilvia> optimizing for the harpertowns should make this kick - any other optimizations besides SSE3?
19:20 <Romulus> Title: Crunch3rs BOINC page (at calbe.dw70.de)
19:20 <Soul_keeper> it's SSSE3
19:21 <Soul_keeper> that's apparently what they decided to call sse4 ...
19:21 <jsilvia> fools
19:22 <Soul_keeper> yeah that was intel's choice
19:22 <jsilvia> so, has anyone optimized Seti for processing on video card GPU's yet?
19:23 <PovAddict> it's not optimizing what needs to be done
19:23 <Soul_keeper> no but i saw the latest svn dev now checks for the cuda library
19:23 <PovAddict> more like rewriting for a completely different way to calculate :)
19:23 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: no project uses it tho
19:23 <Soul_keeper> yeah
19:23 <Soul_keeper> amd's library is called brooke+ or something
19:23 <jsilvia> bummer
19:23 <PovAddict> Penryn has SSE4
19:24 <jsilvia> gotta wonder if it'd be quicker
19:24 <Soul_keeper> i guess ssse3 is sse3+ then
19:24 <PovAddict> jsilvia: it probably won't
19:24 <jsilvia> Does the Harpertown have SSSE3 or SSE4?
19:24 <PovAddict> jsilvia: the point is you can use both CPU and GPU, doubling the speed :)
19:24 <Soul_keeper> MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4, EM64T
19:24 <Soul_keeper> hmmm
19:24 <jsilvia> nice - that'll be a fun compile
19:25 <PovAddict> wow, a CPU instruction to calculate CRC? :P
19:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia
19:27 <quail> wow just had a very quick brown out
19:28 <quail> &wx ypad
19:28 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 52Â°F / 11Â°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Rain Showers | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 21mph / 33km/h | Updated: 8:54 AM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Rain. Low:55 ° F. / 13 ° C.; Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Overcast. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.;
19:28 <jsilvia> see you around guys - thanks for the input. I can believe this guy wants to build this thing...
19:28 <quail> jsilvia: bye
19:28 <jsilvia> yuck
19:28 <Soul_keeper> :)
19:28 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia
19:28 <jsilvia> where are you with weather like that??
19:29 <quail> it good to hear the rain coming down :-)
19:29 <quail> Australia
19:29 <jsilvia> ahhh
19:29 <jsilvia> I bet things there are more sane than here.
19:29 <quail> and we need the rain
19:29 <jsilvia> Yesterday, 2 stupid 17 year olds decided to break into an amusement park, going under the "batman roller coaster"
19:30 <jsilvia> They had to jump 2 fences, and ignored the big warning signs
19:30 <quail> huh?
19:30 <jsilvia> one of them got decapitated
19:30 <jsilvia> 6-Flags Georgia says that the ride will re-open tomorrow.
19:30 <wdsmia> Darwin award winner
19:30 <jsilvia> I'd rather have rain than hear about stupid on the tube.
19:31 <jsilvia> For certain.
19:31 <xcamel> bingo.
19:31 <quail> hehe
19:31 <quail> howdy Jay
19:31 <jsilvia> l8r..
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19:31 <CoderForLife> I heard he was trying to fetch a hat
19:32 <Soul_keeper> "Among the technologies deployed meet all those present in the other processors to 45 nm, ie: MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, XD-bit and EM64T. Sono state implementate anche la tecnologia Vanderpool e le nuove istruzioni SSE4 oltre alle altre migliorie previste dalla revisione a 45 nm dell'architettura Core . There were also implemented the technology Vanderpool and new instructions SSE4 addition to the other improvements planned by the revision t
19:32 <Soul_keeper> o 45 nm of Core. Più precisamente sono state implementate solo 47 delle 54 istruzioni previste dal set SSE4 vero e proprio e per questo motivo Intel indica le nuove istruzioni inserite nelle evoluzioni a 45 nm dell'architettura Core, come SSE4.1 (dove .1 indica la prima versione); l'intero set delle istruzioni, indicato come SSE4.2 verrà incorporato solo nella futura architettura Nehalem , successiva alla Core. More precisely have been
19:32 <Soul_keeper> implemented only 47 of 54 instructions provided by September SSE4 genuine and that is why Intel indicates the new instructions included in developments of 45 nm Core, as SSE4.1 (where .1 indicates the first version) ; The entire set of instructions, as indicated SSE4.2 will be built only in the future architecture Nehalem, following the Core."
19:32 <Soul_keeper> hmmm
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19:32 <PovAddict> italian-inside
19:32 <Soul_keeper> guess google translation didn't work right
19:33 <Soul_keeper> reads english, but copy/pasts non-english
19:33 <CoderForLife> like Intel-inside?
19:33 <infinisoft> Yay
19:35 <Soul_keeper> More precisely have been implemented only 47 of 54 instructions provided by September SSE4 genuine and that is why Intel indicates the new instructions included in developments of 45 nm Core, as SSE4.1 (where .1 indicates the first version) ; The entire set of instructions, as indicated SSE4.2 will be built only in the future architecture Nehalem, following the Core.
19:35 <Soul_keeper> so i guess we have sse4.1 now
19:36 <quail> Soul_keeper: these are the instructions that my desktop E8200 does >>> fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc arch_perfmon bts pni monitor est tm2 xtpr
19:37 <quail> Soul_keeper: oops that my laptops cpu, hehe
19:38 <quail> Soul_keeper: these are the instructions that my desktop E8200 does >>> fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good pni monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr sse4_1 lahf_lm
19:38 <Soul_keeper> nice
19:39 <Soul_keeper> so you have ssse3 (aka sse4) and sse4_1 (sse4.1)
19:39 <PovAddict> ssse3 and sse4 are different things
19:39 <PovAddict> sse4.1 is sse4 with a few extras
19:39 <quail> Soul_keeper: my e8200 cpu does 2 and bit seti wu's an hour
19:40 <PovAddict> oh actually I had that wrong
19:40 <PovAddict> sse4.1 is a subset of sse4
19:40 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, you sure it's not just sse4.2 minux 7 instructions ?
19:40 <Soul_keeper> minus*
19:41 * Soul_keeper downloads the intel sse4 programming reference guide
19:41 <Soul_keeper> flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
19:41 <Soul_keeper> that's from my e4300 the very first and slowest c2d released
19:42 <PovAddict> fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy
19:42 <PovAddict> (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+)
19:43 <Soul_keeper> i see what their trying to do
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19:44 <Soul_keeper> basically ssse3 is just a stop-gap measure, no real place to put it, 47 new instructions - sse4.1 (Penryn) 7 more - sse4.2 (nehalem)
19:45 <infinisoft> Gonna replace my old tasks signature in a second
19:45 <PovAddict> infinisoft: what kind of PrimeGrid tasks are those?
19:46 <infinisoft> TPS
19:46 <KathrynM_> morning
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19:46 <infinisoft> Should I throw the WU name on there somewheres?
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19:50 <KathrynM> Anyone know how I can get the weekend back? I"m not ready to go to w&@^.
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19:51 <PovAddict> ditto
19:51 <PovAddict> bbl ->
19:53 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan
19:53 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 65Â°F / 19Â°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:71 ° F. / 22 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Overcast. Low:62 ° F. / 17 ° (1 more message)
19:53 <KathrynM> hmmmm... cool enough for jeans.
19:53 <KathrynM> wtf? It's the end of June.
19:53 <KathrynM> &more
19:53 <Romulus> KathrynM: C.;
19:53 <KathrynM> thanks rommie. that was helpful
19:54 <infinisoft> I think I'll tabulate per host RAC and add it in the blue space.
19:56 <KathrynM> <---- shower
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20:13 <efc> &weather 31088
20:13 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 94% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Tonight - Showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening. Lows in the lower 70s. West winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. West winds 5 to 15 mph.; Monday (1 more message)
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20:37 <quail> how do you force boinc to do work units that have to be returned earlier?
20:38 <Didactylos> Earlier than what?
20:39 <quail> I have work units that are due back on the 4th july, but it working on units that are due back on 21st july
20:44 <Soul_keeper> there is some dude on tv that says he makes 30k a year in a video game called "second life" he sales clothes for people's online characters
20:44 <Soul_keeper> that's crazy
20:44 <xcamel> the world is crazy...
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20:44 <quail> Soul_keeper: hehe, sounds like I am in the wrong job
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20:45 <Soul_keeper> now they are talking about people that meet their true love in video games, lol
20:45 <Soul_keeper> c'mon
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20:45 <Soul_keeper> world of warcraft apparently
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20:53 <PovAddict> quail: suspend the other workunits/projects
20:53 <PovAddict> other than that there is no way to make BOINC do what you want
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20:56 <Soul_keeper> that's a feature they should implement
20:56 <Soul_keeper> i have the same issue, takes forever to suspend 50 wu's
20:56 <PovAddict> recent managers already support multiple selection...
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20:57 <Soul_keeper> like "process by due date" "process by project" "process by estimated length" etc.
20:57 <PovAddict> so you just select all 50 and click Suspend
20:58 <Soul_keeper> 6.3.x apparently does, nice
20:58 <Soul_keeper> 6.1.x don't
20:58 <Romulus> Title: synecdoche - Google Code (at code.google.com)
21:00 <xcamel> laterz..
21:02 <CoderForLife> I'm off
21:03 <CoderForLife> Your strom front looks, um, complicated but maybe not so threatening ATM xcamel
21:03 <CoderForLife> er storm
21:05 <CoderForLife> good night
21:16 <quail> nice
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21:59 <efc> moo
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22:04 <quail> moo efc
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22:05 <efc> tired.. worked all weekend but got my (*$@# done
22:06 <quail> oh, I had a relaxing weekend :-)
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23:35 <Soul_keeper> so if i spend 20 bucks on lottery tickets will i win ?
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23:37 <efc> Get the odds and payout and calculate your expected value
23:37 <Soul_keeper> figures
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23:50 * quail still has Pending credit: 6,770.80 for seti
23:50 <MikeC`> i feel your pain
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23:53 <MikeC`> Pending credit: 218,856.04
23:54 * quail has participated in SETI@home since 12 June 2002, and has contributed 162,089 Cobblestones of computation (140.05 quadrillion floating-point operations) to SETI@home.
23:57 <MikeC`> where did you get that info
23:57 <MikeC`> ?
23:58 <quail> certificate
23:59 <quail> you have to log into your account
23:59 <MikeC`> forgot about those
23:59 * MikeC` has participated in SETI@home since 24 May 1999, and has contributed 56,019,765 Cobblestones of computation (48.40 quintillion floating-point operations) to SETI@home.