IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-07-06

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02:29 <efc> Wonder if a compare should count as 1 flop..

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06:11 <FreeLarry58> &more

06:11 <Romulus> FreeLarry58: Sunday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s to mid 50s. North wind around 10 mph.;

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06:19 <CoderForLife> morning FreeLarry58

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07:44 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM jackygrahamez__

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08:00 <CoderForLife> morning dizzie

08:04 <dizzie> Afternoon :)

08:05 <dizzie> Morning was 6 hours ago :)

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08:14 <pontxus> good morning

08:14 <pontxus> im spanish

08:15 <pontxus> there isn't a channel for BOINC in hispano's chat

08:15 <pontxus> named me for called

08:15 <pontxus> thks

08:25 <CoderForLife> morning pontxus

08:33 <xcamel> mornin

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08:35 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

08:36 <CoderForLife> just installed ossec on new CentOS box

08:36 <CoderForLife> noticed that since I'm running multiple web sites with separate httpd log files, I did not previously have ossec lokoing at those logs

08:37 <CoderForLife> looking, either

08:39 <xcamel> It should pick them up based on httpd.conf

08:40 <xcamel> howto

08:42 <xcamel> osx downgrade

08:42 <dizzie> Hrm, CentOS is limited to 1TB FS

08:42 <CoderForLife> the ossec.conf file doesn't list my hosted web site log files

08:43 <CoderForLife> only the base Apache ones

08:43 <CoderForLife> so I *assumed* that ossec wasn't looking at my other Apache logs

08:44 <dizzie> Check <VirtualHost> ... Between <Virtual and </Virtual... you add where and what, the logfile goes

08:44 <xcamel> typing on wrong keyboard there for a minute..

08:44 <CoderForLife> yeah - I have separate logs files for each hosted site, so I can run a Webalizer report just for that site traffic

08:45 <CoderForLife> but - ossec did not have those separate site log files listed as logs to monitor in ossec.conf

08:46 <dizzie> Did it work before ossec ?

08:47 <CoderForLife> yes - the separate web site log files work fine - my concern was that if someone was doing bad things, ossec would not alert me because I don't think it was looking at those site log files

08:47 <CoderForLife> I added the site log files to ossec.conf as additional log files to watch

08:47 <dizzie> Sounds like its a ossec issue then.

08:48 <dizzie> Got a crying cat brb

08:48 <xcamel> Let Dan Cid know about that issue though - #ossec

08:48 <xcamel> someone might already have the answer.

08:48 <CoderForLife> dunno if it's an issue at all - I don't recall getting any warning about hacking attempts from those separate log files - I just noticed the config option when I was installing ossec on this new box

08:49 <CoderForLife> worse case - I get notified twice, then I'll know

08:49 <dizzie> Silly kitten got her paw stuck between a chair and a table :(

08:49 <dizzie> 14 weeks old kitten :)

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08:55 <CoderForLife> posted the question to #ossec

08:56 <CoderForLife> sorry about your kitten troubles dizzie

08:56 <dizzie> Her name is Millie :)

08:56 <dizzie> By the way ;)

08:57 <CoderForLife> Happy 14 Weeks, Mille!

08:57 <dizzie> I got a new deal from my ISP, so now... on 50mbit/2mbit :)

08:58 <xcamel> Diz... here's a story for you.....

08:58 <dizzie> Uh uhh

08:58 <xcamel>

08:58 <Romulus> <> (at

08:58 <xcamel> No kitty, no die: Marley the cat survives 14-storey plunge

08:58 <dizzie> Will take a while, as i cant copy/paste :)

08:59 <xcamel> too bad Mike's not around

08:59 <dizzie> 14, thats pretty amazing

08:59 * CoderForLife starts installing ossec-wui

08:59 <xcamel> I need to know how to do a 10.5.4 downgrade back to .3

09:00 <dizzie> Not sure you can downgrade OSX

09:00 <dizzie> Whats wrong with .4 ?

09:00 <xcamel> I'm doing some searching..

09:03 <dizzie> My Macbook pro runs FreeBSD atm :)

09:05 <xcamel> the upgrade messed up the memory controller.

09:05 <xcamel> can't run 4gb now

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09:07 <dizzie> Common fault. I read something about it on a danish site... And yeah, .3 is the easiest solution

09:08 <xcamel> got a link?

09:08 <dizzie> Its only in danish, so wont help you much :(

09:08 <xcamel> I got the 3-beep no boot error

09:08 <xcamel> oh great...

09:09 <dizzie> But they said that downgrade was the easiest if not the only- solution

09:09 <xcamel> untill I pulled the 2nd module.

09:09 <dizzie> Can you boot from 10.5 CD and do a "recover"

09:09 <xcamel> google will translate danish...

09:09 <CoderForLife> software fscked the hardware?

09:10 <xcamel> yupper - EFI bios for macs

09:11 <dizzie> G4 or Intel mac?

09:11 <xcamel> intel - modbook from axiotron

09:11 <xcamel> 2.4G duo

09:12 <dizzie> Mine is a Macbook pro Intel duo 2.4 13,1" screen :)

09:12 <dizzie> 2,000 cheaper than the 17" version :)

09:12 <dizzie> 2,000 DKK that is

09:13 <xcamel> same - but built as a tablet

09:16 * CoderForLife smiles when the ossec-wui comes up

09:16 <dizzie> I wanted a fast laptop, the choices was a Acer Duo2 2.2 or this Macbook.

09:17 * CoderForLife frowns when he sees the listing of e-mail alerts he's not getting

09:17 <dizzie> My isp has blocked port 25 :) so i am over that hehe

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09:18 <dizzie> 2525 works though :)

09:18 <dizzie> Hello frost :)

09:18 <CoderForLife> In The Year 2525

09:18 <xcamel> Zager & Evans.

09:19 <xcamel> serious flashback in that one...

09:19 <dizzie> Hehe

09:19 <CoderForLife> yep - gets stuck in your head

09:20 <xcamel> I really wanted to sue Toyota for using that damned Donovan song in their commercials...

09:20 <dizzie> Haha

09:20 <xcamel> that's one of the worst "earworms"

09:20 <CoderForLife> When you say Dovovan, I hear "Hail Atlantis"

09:21 <dizzie> I'm still driving Volvo :)

09:21 <xcamel> "First there was a mountain..."

09:22 <CoderForLife> no one awake on #ossec

09:22 <CoderForLife> dcid not in channel

09:22 <CoderForLife> no worries

09:23 <dizzie> My sister has no sense of humor... She asked for help with her Vista.. I said "Install Linux and all your troubles are gone"

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09:31 <CoderForLife> Stephen's up - bbiab

09:33 <xcamel> off to fee the animals..

10:10 <CoderForLife> same diff - I fee Stephen too =)

10:14 <xcamel> lol

10:21 <xcamel> wow - just got some LHC..

10:33 <dizzie> LHC server was upgraded yesterday..

10:33 <dizzie> Cant remember who said it though

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12:42 <nickuwo> the mysql user that boinc uses doesn't have to have the various administrative privileges, does it?

12:42 <nickuwo> i.e. grant, super, process, shutdown

12:42 <nickuwo> etc

13:06 <mwalling> no

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13:27 <CoderForLife> reboot to fix a Windows monitor setting screw-up

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13:37 <CoderForLife> das boot komplete

13:37 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

13:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 82.2F / 27.9C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1002.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Southeast winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest this afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. South winds around 5 mph.; (1 more message)

13:37 <CoderForLife> &more

13:37 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. South winds around 5 mph...becoming southwest in the afternoon.;

13:37 <efc> moo cfl

13:38 <CoderForLife> moo efc  =)

13:40 <CoderForLife> looking a little sparky down GA way

13:44 <efc> activating long-range scanners

13:45 <CoderForLife> "you lovely little life forms - where are you?"

13:45 <efc> Maybe Atlanta won't survive this one

13:46 <CoderForLife> Sherman you must be joking

13:46 <CoderForLife> I mean "surely"

13:58 <efc> Sherman, my Favorite Yankee

14:00 <efc> Going out, gonna shut it all down so it doesn't fry. thanks for the heads up.

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14:29 <becker> hi I'm wanting to replace my seti client with one optimised for my type of cpu. I'm running ubuntu linux

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14:30 <becker_11> hi I'm wanting to replace my seti client with one optimised for my type of cpu. I'm running ubuntu linux

14:32 <becker_11> i have the files but I am finding boinc files in many locations in the filesystem and would like 2 find the correct way to do it

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15:52 <CoderForLife> ????

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15:57 <Soul_keeper> ??

16:00 <xcamel> ?

16:01 <CoderForLife> ???

16:01 <mwalling> ????

16:02 <Soul_keeper> ????

16:02 <Soul_keeper> ok good work ...

16:02 <mwalling> wait, are we typing in UTF8 or ?

16:02 <CoderForLife> Chinese

16:02 <CoderForLife> getting ready for the eventual surrender

16:03 <mwalling> oh

16:03 <mwalling> well in that case i'm not using a utf8 client

16:03 <CoderForLife> lol

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16:06 <CoderForLife> Acording to Babelfish, ????means "I have returned"

16:07 <Soul_keeper> great

16:07 <Soul_keeper> what does  !!!!  mean ?

16:07 <CoderForLife> I figure if Firefly/Serenity is anything like what the future will be, we'd better gte started on our Chinese

16:07 <CoderForLife> oh, you need an IRC client that can display Chinese Simplified, I guess

16:08 <CoderForLife> besides you needed to be stirred up on a lazy Sunday afternoon

16:09 * CoderForLife sets up MySQL security

16:09 * Soul_keeper listens to music

16:10 * CoderForLife listens to while configuring Navicat to talk to MySQL

16:10 <Romulus> Title: Whisperings: Solo Piano Radio (at

16:11 <CoderForLife> Here's what PovAddict has been doing in his spare time

16:11 <Romulus> <> (at

16:11 <Didactylos> Who was it who pointed out recently that the Chinese middle class is just about the same size as the entire population of the US?

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16:14 <CoderForLife> well, there's a "fun fact" for you

16:24 <Didactylos> Ew! Can this code GET any worse!

16:25 <Didactylos> Bad enough it uses #define everywhere for everything, but I just realised those number declared so casually are subsequently used blindly to index into a vector.

16:25 * CoderForLife struggles with the same @#% SugarCRM install error

16:26 <Didactylos> All utterly futile, since there is absolutely no reason why you can't just keep a direct reference to the item.

16:26 <CoderForLife> but at least I've found a forum thread that finally seems to explain it

16:26 <PovAddict> Didactylos: what code?

16:27 <Didactylos> Guess....

16:27 <PovAddict> simple GUI?

16:29 <Didactylos> Actually, no. Advanced.

16:30 <Didactylos> The simple view is still new and shiny, so even if it's weird and broken, it lacks the really crazy crap that only comes with years of constant fiddling.

16:30 <PovAddict> hehe

16:30 <CoderForLife> my problem was - guess what - security...

16:30 <CoderForLife> SugarCRM installer doesn't know how to check or set that

16:31 <CoderForLife> rarely convenient...

16:31 <Didactylos> Hey, it's *that* Metropolis.

16:32 <Didactylos> I almost watched it not so long ago.

16:32 <Didactylos> If I wait a little, I'll be able to see the restored version.

16:32 <PovAddict> hrm

16:33 <PovAddict> this game runs on Wine but doesn't make sprites transparent... I see blue stuff around everything

16:33 <PovAddict> but I once had that no-transparency problem with the game running directly on Windows

16:34 <PovAddict> I have version 2 (where I never had transparency problems on Windows, and has more interesting levels) but it's DRM'd like hell so it probably won't run at all on Wine

16:34 <Didactylos> What game?

16:35 <PovAddict> DRM is rarel^H^H^H^H^Hnever convenient

16:35 <CoderForLife> =)

16:36 <PovAddict> seems to work on fullscreen... but then I can't monitor IRC while playing :)

16:37 <Didactylos> Does anyone ever want to use the "Show Graphics" button to launch windows for all running tasks?

16:37 <PovAddict> I don't see that useful, Didactylos

16:37 <Didactylos> Seems like a non-starter to me.

16:37 <CoderForLife> lol

16:37 <Romulus> <> (at

16:37 <Didactylos> PovAddict: but this is something BOINC Manager *does* allow.

16:37 <Soul_keeper> didn't there used to be a project where they'd send you money in the mail for your computing time ?

16:38 <Didactylos> I never heard of it.

16:38 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: yes, one where people would send *them* money to have them compute things

16:38 <PovAddict> it died pretty quickly

16:38 <Soul_keeper> what was the name of it ?

16:38 <PovAddict> no idea

16:39 <CoderForLife> IRS

16:39 <CoderForLife> unfortunately it lives on

16:43 <Soul_keeper>    is that them ?

16:43 <Romulus> Title: I.R.S. Intelligent Reasoning Systems (at

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16:44 <CoderForLife> I was referring to the Internal revenue Service

16:50 <Soul_keeper> i remember a project where it took like a month to make 5 cents or something, and they'd send it to you in the mail

16:52 <Soul_keeper> i'm talking like 8 to 10yrs ago

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16:55 <Didactylos> *sigh* - I don't understand this code.

16:56 <Soul_keeper> Intel Larrabee  looks promising for distributed computing

17:00 <pontxus> somebody from spain??

17:00 <pontxus> named me plis

17:02 <PovAddict> "named me"?

17:03 <Soul_keeper>

17:03 <Romulus> Title: Spanish Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

17:03 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: what about it

17:03 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict,  i just was wondering what the name of that project was

17:04 <PovAddict> what about the spanish civil war

17:04 <Soul_keeper> was just talking about that in another channel

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17:04 <Soul_keeper> now we got a spaniard here :)

17:05 <Soul_keeper> guess i should wander off, and take my dimentia with me

17:05 <Soul_keeper> late

17:12 <PovAddict>

17:12 * CoderForLife re-makes PHP on CentOS for mbstring support

17:14 <CoderForLife> of course, I've had to fix 2 security problems, a PHP build script problem, and install an additional package

17:16 <Didactylos> CoderForLife: makes you yearn for Windows, when it only takes *one* day to reinstall a computer....

17:16 <quail> morning all

17:16 <quail> &wx ypad

17:16 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 6:30 AM CST; Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Chance of Rain. High:50 F. / 10 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F. / 6 C.; Chance of Rain. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:44 F. / 7 C.;

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17:21 <quail> more fires in california :-/

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17:48 <xcamel> mornin... ?!!?

17:49 <Soul_keeper> leave my fires out of this

17:49 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

17:49 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 82.4F / 28.0C | Humidity: 47% | Pressure: 29.20in / 988.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Becoming mostly cloudy. Areas of fog after midnight. Lows 57 to 67. Light winds.; Monday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 78 to 83 in the western valleys to 90 to 95 near the (1 more message)

17:50 <CoderForLife> back from dinner - miss much?

17:50 <Soul_keeper> nope

17:50 <CoderForLife> ok - we'll dispense with the digest version

17:51 <CoderForLife> ack!  PHP compile errors@

17:52 <CoderForLife> wtf

17:56 <CoderForLife> I am becoming of the opinion that all Linux distros are coming completely unglued

17:56 <mwalling> slackware?

17:56 <Romulus> Rumor has it slackware is nice, it has a wonderful command line interface, mwalling

17:57 <mwalling> Romulus: that is true

17:57 <Romulus> ... but that is <reply> or what drives many of the ATA crowd ...

17:57 <quail> howdy xcamel, CoderForLife, Soul_keeper and all

17:57 <Soul_keeper> yo

17:57 <CoderForLife> if that's what slackers write, then this is slackware

17:58 <quail> slackware is great if you want to get back to grass roots linux :-)

17:59 <CoderForLife> I am very unwasy that I'm having these issues with CentOS, after fleeing ubuntu, after having seg faults with Fedora

17:59 <Soul_keeper> i've been with slackware for years

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18:00 <CoderForLife> so far, it seems that my problems are all somehow related to 64-bit

18:00 <Soul_keeper> just watching all these new fads/distros come and go

18:00 <CoderForLife> across all distros

18:00 <Soul_keeper> could be

18:01 <CoderForLife> it's like the OSS movement hasn't caught up to 64-bit-ish-ness

18:01 <Soul_keeper> many don't want to "catch" up

18:01 <mwalling> slamd64!

18:02 <Soul_keeper> :)

18:02 <CoderForLife> well, ya know, 8 bit was great too

18:03 <quail> my ubuntu 64bit desktop not bad, but it not the greatest at the sametime

18:03 <Soul_keeper> i see no reason to go to 64-bit untill i can afford 8GB or more memory

18:04 <quail> 4GB kit only cost me 89AUD

18:05 <quail> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.24-19-generic |  Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8200  @ 2.66GHz 2664.000 MHz | Bogomips: 10669.85 | Mem: 3091/3959M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 226.79G Free: 173.46G | Procs: 140 | Uptime: 2 days 15 hrs 10 mins 12 secs | Load: 2.06 2.06 2.14  | Screen: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) @ 1440x900 (32 bpp) | eth0: In: 278.09M Out: 39.89M

18:05 <quail> Sensors: HDD:

18:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah i just afforded myself a 2GB kit, it should serv me well for another year or two :)

18:08 <quail> my new desktop cost me bit under 600AUD

18:08 <Soul_keeper> good deal

18:08 <quail> that was just for parts

18:08 <quail> I had to build it

18:08 <Soul_keeper> i try to spend under 400 anymore

18:09 <quail> :-)

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18:11 <xcamel> 'lo Duck

18:11 <AFLAC> Hi J

18:11 <CoderForLife> heya quacker

18:12 <AFLAC> Hi CFL

18:12 <AFLAC> We had some rain today and I like that!

18:12 <quail> we getting little rain here atm

18:13 <AFLAC>

18:13 <Romulus> <> (at

18:13 <AFLAC> Of course lightning was included

18:13 <quail>

18:13 <Romulus> Title: 128 km Adelaide (Sellicks Hill) Radar (at

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18:14 <AFLAC> Bye Doug?

18:15 <AFLAC> I did not know you were from OZ quail

18:15 <AFLAC> &seen zeeno

18:15 <Romulus> AFLAC: zeeno was last seen in #boinc 2 days, 18 hours, 52 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: <Zeeno> &more

18:16 <AFLAC> buggers

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18:16 <AFLAC> HI there!

18:17 <AFLAC>

18:17 <Romulus> Title: Extinct plant found in Australia (at

18:18 <quail> AFLAC: :-)

18:18 <xcamel> they have found a bunch of those lately...

18:20 <AFLAC> I like Drugs ;->

18:20 <Romulus> <> (at

18:22 <xcamel> hmmm... can't back up from 10.5.4

18:24 <AFLAC> Do you ever hear from The GasGiant?

18:24 <PovAddict> &seen TheGasGiant

18:24 <Romulus> PovAddict: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 6 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 18 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> brb....snack

18:24 <xcamel> Paul pops in once in a while..

18:24 <quail> AFLAC: every now and then

18:24 <AFLAC> Dang no luck there, thanks

18:25 <AFLAC> I have not spoken to him in a long while

18:25 <quail> damn TheGasGiant is on a long snack break ;-) :-P

18:25 <AFLAC> I guess that is where the Giant comes from :) Quail

18:26 <xcamel> those 6 month 'eurostyle' vacations...

18:26 <AFLAC> Yea he was off for many a week

18:26 <xcamel> &seen TheGasGiant

18:26 <Romulus> xcamel: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 6 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 20 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> brb....snack

18:26 <CoderForLife> last time I saw him, he looked hungry and was chasing a 'roo

18:26 <AFLAC> Spoke to ElGono recently

18:26 <quail> CoderForLife: lol

18:26 <quail> AFLAC: yeah in another

18:27 <AFLAC> Not for food, I bet ;)

18:27 <quail> channel

18:27 <AFLAC> Yep

18:27 <quail> &seen ELGono

18:27 <Romulus> quail: ELGono was last seen in #boinc 3 days, 11 hours, 9 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <ELGono> doesn't sound that bad

18:28 <AFLAC> 'bout right

18:28 <quail> &seen quail

18:28 <Romulus> quail: quail was last seen in #boinc 36 seconds ago: <quail> &seen ELGono

18:28 <AFLAC> He speakes perfect english

18:28 <quail> hehe

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18:29 <AFLAC> Ducks don't talk...

18:30 <AFLAC> &seen Aflac

18:30 <Romulus> AFLAC: Aflac was last seen in #boinc 52 seconds ago: <AFLAC> Ducks don't talk...

18:33 <quail> another 12 updates this morning for me on debian testing

18:33 * CoderForLife whacks out i386 architecture packages from CentOS 5

18:34 <AFLAC> Dang, I hope you are paid for that!

18:34 <AFLAC>

18:34 <Romulus> <> (at

18:34 <CoderForLife> Mixed Architecture Distros Are The Root Of All Suffering

18:34 <AFLAC> Suse 11 working OK so far

18:35 <AFLAC> Not on Old P4's and P3's though

18:36 * quail hugs his laptop with its debian testing/unstable install

18:36 <AFLAC> &beer

18:36 <Romulus> Here's your beer, AFLAC... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

18:36 <quail> &beer AFLAC

18:36 <Romulus> Here's your beer, quail... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

18:37 <quail> boo you were ment to give it to AFLAC Romulus

18:37 <CoderForLife> there!  make for PHP now ran to completion

18:37 <AFLAC> Yea!

18:37 <AFLAC> quail &beer

18:38 <AFLAC> na

18:38 <quail> AFLAC: to early in the day here for beer here

18:38 <quail> Mon Jul  7 08:08:43 CST 2008

18:38 <AFLAC> 6:38 p.m. here just in time :)

18:39 <AFLAC> Man from OZ

18:39 <quail> :-)

18:40 <AFLAC> Back to the 'other computer' back later...

18:40 <quail> k

18:43 <quail> CoderForLife: hows your weekend been?

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18:44 <CoderForLife> yay!  the new version of PHP is running

18:45 <quail> :-)

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19:03 * quail goes for a shower

19:03 <quail> brb

19:03 <efc> moo/unmoo Q

19:03 <efc> Looked at various big monitors in town.. kinda want one now

19:04 <CoderForLife> They want you to consume

19:05 <efc> Consume.. Consume..

19:05 <efc> HP had a touch screen LCD, first one I've seen myself

19:05 <CoderForLife> and Obey

19:07 <efc> Not as much difference between the 22's and 24's as I thought there would be

19:08 <efc> mostly low-end TN panels at the store

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19:11 <efc> &weather yakutsk

19:11 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 8:00 AM YAKST; Clear. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Overcast. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Clear. Low:73 F. / 23 C.;

19:16 <xcamel> &weather tuktoyuktuk

19:16 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

19:16 <xcamel> oh well..

19:17 <xcamel> &weather tuktoyaktuk

19:17 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 70°F / 21°C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 16mph / 26km/h | Updated: 5:00 PM MDT; Clear. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Clear. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Clear. Low:55 F. / 13 C.; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:53 F. / 12 C.;

19:18 <efc> quit the storms came through today, though I wasn't home

19:18 <xcamel> wow... heat wave in the arctic

19:29 * quail is back

19:29 <quail> moo efc

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19:32 <jackygrahamez__> &weather 20011

19:32 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Temperature: 78.4F / 25.8C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the (1 more message)

19:33 <jackygrahamez__> &more

19:33 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: morning...then mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

19:33 <jackygrahamez__> anybody ever try couch surfing?

19:34 <Romulus> Title: CouchSurfing (at

19:35 <CoderForLife> The setup of Sugar 5.1.0RC is now complete!  Total time: 13.788864850998 seconds. -- I wouldn't be so sure. and why so serious about the total time

19:35 <bryanUC> because the competitor takes an average of 13.788864860999 seconds

19:36 <bryanUC> so they're 1x10^-12 seconds faster

19:36 <CoderForLife> now there's a competitive distinction

19:37 <CoderForLife> well - let's see if it blows chunks like it did on Fedora 9

19:37 <quail> $ time seq 1 9999999 > /dev/null

19:37 <quail> real    0m8.531s

19:37 <quail> user    0m8.225s

19:37 <quail> sys     0m0.024s

19:40 <CoderForLife> so far - no Apache sge faults

19:40 <CoderForLife> er seg

19:44 <quail> :-) congratz CoderForLife

19:45 <CoderForLife> yeah - so far so good - I didn't get this far before

19:48 <CoderForLife> there's a real opportunity for someone to create a Linux distro that really works, instead of this hobbyist, tweak-your-way-to-success, squander-hours-of-time-chasing after-crap approach

19:49 <AFLAC> open SuSE :)

19:49 <AFLAC> I gave up on Fedoria

19:50 <AFLAC> Hammering on version 11 ;)

19:51 <CoderForLife> well this is CentOS - I can't walk away from my years of RH experience

19:51 <xcamel> experience...frustration

19:51 <CoderForLife> well - once you learn it...

19:52 <xcamel> like trying to unfry an egg.

19:52 <CoderForLife> I don't want "new experience" on other distros

19:52 <xcamel> I went through all that with mandrake

19:52 <AFLAC> I foillowed Suse to Novell (Started with Novell years ago...)

19:53 <xcamel> and only good thing I got out of suse was KDE

19:53 <CoderForLife> I'll put up OpenSUSE later as a test platform

19:53 <jackygrahamez__> I don't know why people perfer one Linux over another, maybe if I understood why, I would know a lot more

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19:53 <AFLAC> And a free set of golf clubs, minus the clubs ;)

19:53 <CoderForLife> that's box #3 on the list

19:54 <AFLAC> ;)

19:54 <CoderForLife> this will be my new production server (CentOS 5), my current production server becomes the development machine (Fedora 9), and the current development machine gets OpenSUSE 11 (environmental testing)

19:55 <AFLAC> Kool and good luck

19:55 <CoderForLife> thanks - we also have Hasty Heron desktop running

19:55 <KathrynM> mornin

19:56 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:56 <KathrynM> can I trade my Monday for someone else's Sunday

19:56 <CoderForLife> good morning KathrynM

19:56 <AFLAC> Morning Glory

19:56 <dizzie> Mine :)

19:56 <dizzie> Got 3 weeks holiday, still wanna trade ? =)

19:56 <KathrynM> dizzie, you have to be at w&@^ in 45 minutes

19:56 <KathrynM> First class is phonics

19:56 <jackygrahamez__> If you trade your friday

19:57 <CoderForLife> .me continues clicking the tabs in SugarCRM to see if.when it tosses it's cookies

19:57 <dizzie> Well, trade your back for my back too ?

19:57 <CoderForLife> yes me do

19:57 <KathrynM> my back is screwed up.  you don't want it

19:57 <dizzie> Mine is too, its a miracle my spine stll holds the rest of me

19:58 * CoderForLife brandishes the screwdriver he used on the gutters today

19:58 <dizzie> 45 min... mmm can i pass the offer? its 2am here, and i ought to go to bed soon :)

19:58 <CoderForLife> let me at that back

19:58 <dizzie> Ahem

19:59 <dizzie> go away :)

19:59 <KathrynM> no thanks.  had back surgery once.  it's the most painful thing I've ever experienced.

19:59 <KathrynM> kathrynm + iv morphine = insanity

19:59 <KathrynM> I told the PT to go f*** herself when she tried to get me up out of bed.

20:00 <AFLAC> Funny!

20:00 <dizzie> Reminds me of when the did a test on (whatever its called in english... took a sample from the center of my spine)

20:00 <AFLAC> Spinal Tap

20:00 <CoderForLife> my sister has had a lot of IV morphine - she becomes a monster

20:01 <dizzie> Oh i broke the jaw on someone trying to help me out of bed

20:01 <AFLAC> I had Morphine and I could not eat until they pulled it out of mu spine (tears in eyes)

20:01 <dizzie> 15 mins later, 5 guys "lifted" me out :)

20:02 <CoderForLife> I am allergic to it supposedly - anything opium-based

20:02 <KathrynM> I'm not cut out for pain.  God help me if I ever decided to have a child (which is extremely unlikely at this point in my life)

20:02 <dizzie> Kids smells anyway :)

20:02 <KathrynM> Ah drug allergies.  Doctors look at my list of antibiotic allergies and say "What can you take?"

20:03 <KathrynM> tell me about it dizzie

20:03 <dizzie> KathrynM i have a son, 7 y.o. next month :)

20:03 <KathrynM> awwwwwwwww

20:03 <AFLAC> Congrats dizzie

20:03 <CoderForLife> nice

20:03 <KathrynM> dizzie, did you see my 5 year olds singing?

20:04 <dizzie> Kids can be fun, mostly hehe

20:04 <CoderForLife> my son will be 24 in November

20:04 <dizzie> KathrynM, no i havent

20:04 <KathrynM> except when they're being pains.  But I get to send mine home every day.

20:04 <KathrynM> dizzie,

20:04 <Romulus> <> (at

20:04 <AFLAC> Dang almost my age ;)

20:04 <dizzie> Cookiemonster :)

20:04 <KathrynM> dizzie, make sure the sound isn't up too loud

20:05 <xcamel> Mine is 6 months younger than his...

20:05 <CoderForLife> aiiieee

20:05 <dizzie> On a dumb terminal, so no sound or GUI

20:05 <KathrynM> lol

20:05 <KathrynM> ah

20:05 <KathrynM> imagine 10 4 yo screaming along to C is for Cookie

20:05 <KathrynM> that's exactly what the video is

20:06 <CoderForLife> aiiiieeee

20:06 <KathrynM> lol

20:06 <dizzie> But i finally got the fb dev working so, 1280x1024 in console, works for me :)

20:06 <dizzie> Awww :)

20:06 * CoderForLife has seen (mostly heard) the video

20:06 <KathrynM> you can't not hear it ;-)

20:06 <KathrynM> yes, that's my life on a daily basis

20:07 <dizzie> Had it as a ringtone on my phone once :)

20:07 <AFLAC> I want a cookie too (now)

20:07 <KathrynM> And I'm off to get ready for that fun

20:07 <CoderForLife> tc KathrynM

20:07 * KathrynM gives AFLAC a chocolate chip cookie

20:07 <KathrynM> later gators

20:07 <dizzie> Ttfn

20:07 <AFLAC> Thankie

20:07 <dizzie> And have fun KathrynM :)

20:07 <CoderForLife> time for me to take the trash out to the curb

20:07 <AFLAC> taa taa

20:07 <CoderForLife> bbaib

20:07 <CoderForLife> er..

20:07 <AFLAC> Otay Coder

20:09 <AFLAC> Gone fer a while myself back later

20:09 <dizzie> 2am, i am going for a big nap

20:10 <dizzie> ttfn :)

20:12 <CoderForLife> xcamel -

20:12 <Romulus> <> (at

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20:21 <xcamel> go figure

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20:34 <CoderForLife> back - the trash has been encurbed

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20:55 <CoderForLife> brb

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21:15 * quail is back

21:18 <Soul_keeper> has the internet been slower than usual the last few months, or is it just me ?

21:28 <efc> here on dialup, its hard to tell between "glacially slow" and "governmentally slow"

21:34 <Tank_Master> "govermentally slow" has more corruption in it

21:37 <efc> Ex3ll#2nt P0in+ TnkMMMaster

21:37 <efc> N0000 c038p+10n here

21:37 <Tank_Master> heh

21:43 * CoderForLife returns from another bloody battle with Vista

21:44 <CoderForLife> may it die an unseemly death before it's time

21:48 <CoderForLife> a 3 minute job turns into 30 minutes

21:48 <efc> here's to hoping win2k comes out under GPL

21:48 <CoderForLife> UAC sux

21:49 <CoderForLife> oh well - I'm late going to bed

21:49 <CoderForLife> gn all

21:49 <efc> BBL

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23:11 <mwalling> &ping

23:11 <Romulus> pong

23:16 <PovAddict> valgrind rocks

23:17 <PovAddict> I found two genuine memory leaks in BOINC

23:18 <PovAddict> but I should go to sleep before KathrynM gets maternal on me

23:38 <KathrynM> PovAddict better be in bed :-)

23:38 <KathrynM> and sleeping

23:38 <KathrynM> I've gotta go back to w&@%

23:38 <PovAddict> yes I am

23:38 <PovAddict> wait crap

23:38 * PovAddict runs

23:39 <KathrynM> run faster

23:39 <PovAddict> ^^

23:39 <PovAddict> -->

23:39 <KathrynM> I've gotta be maternal here.  Else this place would go to hell in a handbasked

23:39 <KathrynM> *handbasket

23:39 <KathrynM> good night PovAddict

23:39 <PovAddict> night

23:39 <Tank_Master> KM!

23:39 <mwalling> someones gotta carry the handbasket though, right?

23:41 <KathrynM> TM!

23:41 <KathrynM> I'm off to w&@%

23:42 <Tank_Master> hf!

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