IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-07-07

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01:26 <quail> &convert currency 19.99 usd aud

01:26 <Romulus> quail: Error: The command "convert" is available in the Currency and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "convert".

01:26 <quail> &currency convert 19.99 usd aud

01:26 <Romulus> quail: 19.99 usd = 20.83 aud

01:30 <quail> &currency convert 9.99 eur aud

01:30 <Romulus> quail: 9.99 eur = 16.27 aud

01:34 <Soul_keeper> good job

01:35 <quail> &currency convert 6.99 eur aud

01:35 <Romulus> quail: 6.99 eur = 11.39 aud

02:31 <efc> remoo

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03:47 <quail> &currency convert 60.99 usd aud

03:47 <Romulus> quail: 60.99 usd = 63.67 aud

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04:21 <dizzie> Morning all :)

04:24 <quail> evening dizzie

04:24 <dizzie> Hello quail :)

04:25 <dizzie> Gentoo is really not worth the hassle right? Takes ages to install hehe

04:25 <quail> don't know as I have never installed gentoo

04:26 <quail> arch linux is ment to be pretty good

04:26 <quail> cause it i686 optimised

04:26 <dizzie> Got FreeBSD installed now, other than that i got debian ubuntu and one (ONE!) F9 DVD

04:27 <dizzie> FreeBSD amanda.fredslev.dk 7.0-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008     root@logan.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

04:27 <dizzie> Generic kernel i know :)

04:27 <quail> &time

04:27 <Romulus> quail: 04:27 AM, July 07, 2008

04:28 <dizzie> Mon Jul  7 10:28:26 CEST 2008

04:28 <dizzie> :p

04:28 <quail> <= Mon Jul  7 17:58:30 CST 2008

04:29 <dizzie> Gentoo smells, cant even prep my nic with dhcp

04:29 <quail> &time gives Romulus time

04:29 <dizzie> 169.xxx.xxx.xxx is a crap ip hehe

04:29 <dizzie> Romulus is not flawless :)

04:29 <Romulus> Wish I knew!

04:29 <dizzie> time?

04:29 <Romulus> Rumor has it time is on my ophone, dizzie

04:30 <dizzie> Right

04:30 <dizzie> quail are you by any chance, an old amiga user ?

04:31 * quail is after one of theses 'GlobalSat BU-353 USB GPS Receiver'

04:31 <quail> dizzie: nope

04:31 <dizzie> A shame :)

04:31 <dizzie> But anyway, listen to this -> http://www.scenemusic.eu:8002/live.mp3

04:49 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 66.9F / 19.4C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1002.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny this morning...then partly sunny with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms late. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a slight (1 more message)

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04:49 <CoderForLife> &more

04:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

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05:00 <CoderForLife> time for breakfast   brb

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05:13 <quail> howdy CoderForLife, how are you?

05:14 <quail> &wx ypad

05:14 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.15in / 1021hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 6:30 PM CST; Chance of Rain. High:51 F. / 11 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Chance of Rain. High:51 F. / 11 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:57 F. / 14 C.; Overcast. Low:48 F. / 9 C.;

05:14 <CoderForLife> I think, therefore I am

05:14 * quail thinks it is going to be a cold night here

05:14 <CoderForLife> how about you?

05:15 <quail> good thanks

05:15 <CoderForLife> cold?

05:15 <quail> yeah, it 8C here atm

05:15 <CoderForLife> you're way above freezing even

05:17 <quail> CoderForLife: how much is it for you to post a parcel to AUS

05:17 <CoderForLife> I don't know

05:20 <quail> I am after this 'GlobalSat BU-353 USB GPS Receiver' and it cheaper for me to buy it from the US

05:20 <quail> CoderForLife: http://www.semsons.com/glbuusbgpsre.html

05:20 <Romulus> Title: GlobalSat BU-353 USB GPS Receiver - Cable GPS Receiver (at www.semsons.com)

05:21 <quail> and they want 24USD for postage

05:21 <CoderForLife> not bad

05:22 <CoderForLife> http://www.usps.com/tools/calculatepostage/welcome.htm?from=home&page=0061calculatepostage

05:22 <Romulus> Title: USPS - USPS - Calculate Postage (at www.usps.com)

05:24 <quail> 22.50USD that site says

05:26 <CoderForLife> that is the US Postal Service web site

05:26 <quail> cheers I have bookmarked it

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05:32 <quail> my feet are cold :-/

05:32 <dizzie> Awww

05:32 * dizzie fetches his fluffy slippers for quail

05:32 <dizzie> :)

05:33 * quail takes his big boots off and puts on his uggies :-)

05:33 <dizzie> Btw. qual, i found a better theme for irssi

05:33 <CoderForLife> ugh

05:33 <CoderForLife> what's an uggie?

05:34 <dizzie> on the irssi site, get the them called n.theme :)

05:34 <quail> sheeps wool boots

05:34 <dizzie> uggies = not so pretty

05:34 <CoderForLife> ah, that follows =P

05:34 <dizzie> quail will you hate me when i say its 27c here atm :p

05:35 <dizzie> nfi what thats in F

05:35 <dizzie> 75'ish i think

05:35 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

05:35 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 87°F / 30°C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM KST; Chance of Rain. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:69 F. / 21 (1 more message)

05:35 <dizzie> Hello KathrynM :)

05:35 <KathrynM> hiya dizzie

05:35 <dizzie> How was class?

05:35 * KathrynM sends some heat down quail's way

05:36 <KathrynM> long day

05:36 <CoderForLife> hello Your Highness =)

05:36 * KathrynM bows

05:36 <quail> CoderForLife: http://www.alibaba.com/company/100229464.html

05:36 <Romulus> Title: Aussie Uggies - Sheepsking Boots, Slipper And Shoes (at www.alibaba.com)

05:36 <CoderForLife> is Monday worth living?

05:36 * dizzie shares some love... and coffee for quail

05:36 <KathrynM> I'm glad it's over

05:36 <CoderForLife> ah

05:36 * CoderForLife pulls the covers back over his head

05:37 <quail> hehe

05:37 <KathrynM> I'm glad I don't have to go in until 1:30 tomorrow

05:37 <KathrynM> little kids are going to camp for the next two days.

05:37 <quail> dizzie: what the theme for irssi you found?

05:37 * CoderForLife as a last grand gesture on the morning, tries to remember how to configure webalizer on a per site basis

05:38 <CoderForLife> bon voyage, kids

05:39 <CoderForLife> S is for Screaming

05:39 <dizzie> quail: n.theme

05:39 <dizzie> easier to wget it :)

05:40 <quail> dizzie: iirc my theme just the default one

05:41 <dizzie> n them is lgrey dgray and cyan :)

05:41 <dizzie> Darkish :)

05:42 <quail> dizzie: what irssi scripts you running?

05:42 <dizzie> Wow! .. Kernel compile on my Quadcore... less than 4 min

05:42 <dizzie> no scripts

05:42 <dizzie> I do have aliases :)

05:43 <dizzie> wg = /window goto and wk /window kill

05:43 <dizzie> :p

05:43 <quail> 19:13:25 config

05:43 <quail> 19:13:25 config~

05:43 <quail> 19:13:25 default.theme

05:43 <quail> 19:13:25 keepnick

05:43 <quail> 19:13:25 scripts

05:43 <quail> 19:13:34 autorun

05:43 <quail> 19:13:34 hilightwin.pl

05:43 <quail> 19:13:34 keepnick.pl

05:44 <quail> 19:13:34 nickcolor.pl

05:44 <quail> 19:13:34 sysinfo.pl

05:44 <quail> 19:13:34 sysinfo.pl~

05:44 <quail> 19:13:34 usercount.pl

05:44 <quail> 19:13:34 xmms.pl

05:44 <quail> dizzie: they are the scripts I use

05:45 <dizzie> Before i found irssi i used EPIC, i am used to no scripts

05:45 <dizzie> EPIC4 that is

05:46 <CoderForLife> dang - so many good things to do here, but I must get ready for w@#%

05:46 <dizzie> CoderForLife: i'm on my first day on my 3 weeks holiday :)

05:47 <CoderForLife> bb in a few, on my way out the door

05:47 <dizzie> Have fun though :p

05:47 <CoderForLife> congrats dizzie

05:47 <CoderForLife> bbiaf

05:47 <xcamel> [210.57.247.185] blocked using zen.spamhaus.org

05:47 <dizzie> Hello xcamel :)

05:48 <quail> CoderForLife: have a good one

05:48 <dizzie> Block .ch while at it :)

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06:24 <CoderForLife> b for a moment

06:25 <CoderForLife> thx for the plink, xcamel

06:29 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:29 <CoderForLife> laterz

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10:26 <hawmps> 'lo

10:40 <dizzie> Hello :)

10:42 <hawmps> Hi Diz

10:47 <dizzie> Blimey... on a 50mbit i am downloading packages at 34kb/sec :(

10:48 <PovAdct_w> you need to download from multiple servers at once

10:48 <dizzie> Or SF needs to upgrade their servers :)

10:48 <PovAdct_w> I usually download from almost every SF mirror at the same time :)

10:51 <dizzie> Reminds me of the good old days on dialup, 3.5kb/sec on good days :)

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11:27 <hawmps> anyone have a DB25 M/F null modem block they want to send me?

11:35 <dizzie> Sorry, only got 9/25 one

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11:43 <hawmps> $2 on line .... $50 shipping. Go Figure.

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11:43 <dizzie> 50? Ahahaha thats nuts

11:44 <PovAdct_w> shipping 25x more expensive than actual item??

11:49 <hawmps> yupper...

12:00 <dizzie> Segementation fault: 11 (core dumped)

12:01 <dizzie> Yay :)

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12:03 <hawmps> Segementation fault: 13 (core dumped - Ghost in machine)

12:04 <PovAdct_w> file not found; fake it? [y/n]

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12:36 <zombie67> my 3.0ghz XEON Mac finally finished an Orbit task.  14.4 days, claiming claiming 7677 credits

12:43 <desti> WTF??!

12:43 <PovAdct_w> what

12:43 <PovAdct_w> orbit is that long

12:43 <zombie67> yeah

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13:00 <KathrynM> is orbit going to do trickles any time soon?

13:08 <desti> it will trickle when it detects an asteroid crash with the earth

13:12 <KathrynM> lol

13:14 <zombie67> not that I am aware of.  it does checkpoints though.

13:14 <zombie67> good enough for me

13:14 <KathrynM> 15 days is pretty long...  an that's a speedy computer you got.

13:17 <zombie67> ;)

13:17 <KathrynM> wanna let me try it out for a few weeks zombie67?

13:17 <zombie67> hah!

13:18 <KathrynM> I'm sure it would like a trip to Asia

13:18 <zombie67> my old xeon (w/ HT) windows machine will take 22 days at this rate.

13:19 <KathrynM> See WUs like that are the reason I gave up on CPDN.  and they trickle

13:19 <KathrynM> I don't have the patience.

13:20 <zombie67> yeah, but I have to run them to hit my 100k/project goal

13:20 <zombie67> http://www.ramseyathome.com/ramsey

13:20 <Romulus> Title: Ramsey@home (at www.ramseyathome.com)

13:20 <KathrynM> saw him on the mailing lists

13:20 <KathrynM> I'm burnt out big time at the moment.

13:21 <KathrynM> Just doing E@H and ABC

13:21 <zombie67> heh

13:21 <KathrynM> Not even reading boards aside from E@H, QMC and BOINC

13:21 <zombie67> wow

13:22 <KathrynM> barely posting as well

13:22 <KathrynM> I'm trying to keep the little sanity I have left.

13:22 <zombie67> sounds like you need a vacation

13:22 <KathrynM> tell me about it

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13:55 <desti> 2008-07-07 18:15:36 [Einstein@Home] Task h1_1025.00_S5R3__394_S5R3b_0 is 38.68 days overdue.

13:55 <desti> how the hell can that happened on a 24/7 system?

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14:02 <PovAdct_w> what BOINC version?

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16:42 <xcamel> 'lo

16:50 <wdsmia_w> Jays back must be time to go home :)

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16:54 <CoderForLife> hello

16:58 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/MPG.html         w00t !  gas mileage back up around 30 with new carb

16:58 <Romulus> Title: Sheet1 (at sterlingdesktops.com)

17:02 <CoderForLife> nice Soul_keeper - congrats

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17:03 <xcamel> bonehead cured --

17:03 <xcamel> the radio needed a null modem adapter of all things...

17:03 <CoderForLife> lol

17:04 <CoderForLife> how "soon" we forget

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17:05 <xcamel> seems so.. luckily, good ole RadioShack still has them...

17:05 <xcamel> ... for 10 friggin bucks...

17:14 <CoderForLife> 10 bucks!

17:14 <CoderForLife> did they have to buy it from a museum?

17:18 <xcamel> must be..

17:20 <CoderForLife> I'm sure I have one or two in my collection...

17:20 <Soul_keeper> http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Leaf-Blower-Bolt-on-Dyno_7514.htm

17:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/65v86w> (at videos.streetfire.net)

17:21 <Soul_keeper> i'm contemplating forced induction options

17:31 <Soul_keeper> ok my alternator pumps out up to 60 amps apparently so i guess i got that to work with

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18:50 <quail> morning all

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19:01 <xcamel> 'lo Q

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19:25 <efc> moo

19:26 <CoderForLife> moo

19:26 <efc> &weather 31088

19:26 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 84F / 29C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.07in / 1018hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Thunderstorm | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Chance of (1 more message)

19:26 <efc> &more

19:26 <Romulus> efc: showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening. Lows around 70. Light and variable winds.;

19:27 <efc> strikestar says there's nothing..

19:28 <CoderForLife> and you believe it?

19:29 <efc> I trust the internBZZZZZT

19:29 <CoderForLife> you are only coming through in waves

19:31 <xcamel> it does not matter now, this is not how I am...

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19:32 <CoderForLife> poor wdsmia

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19:33 <wdsmia> damn isp

19:33 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 86.7F / 30.4C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 14.0mph / 22.5km/h ; Tonight - Numerous thunderstorms in the evening...then thunderstorms likely after midnight. Some thunderstorms may be severe with large hail and damaging wind...then some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall after midnight. Low in (1 more message)

19:33 <wdsmia> &more

19:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: the upper 60s. West wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 70 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the mid 80s. Northwest wind near 5 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 60s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northeast after midnight.;

19:34 <zombie67> &weather 94568

19:34 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 103F / 39C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Areas of smoke. Lows in the upper 50s to lower 80s. West winds 5 to 20 mph.; Tuesday - Sunny. Areas of smoke. Highs in the 92 to 103. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Clear. Areas of smoke. Lows in the 60s to lower 80s. West (1 more message)

19:34 <efc> I like thunderstorms..

19:34 <zombie67> &more

19:34 <Romulus> zombie67: winds 5 to 20 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Heat Advisory for Alameda County in effect until 5:00 PM PDT on July 10, 2008;

19:34 <zombie67> Ouch!  "Temperature: 103F / 39C"

19:35 <efc> Smokin

19:35 <CoderForLife> 100% chance of smoke

19:35 <efc> Thunderstorms + missing ingredient

19:35 <CoderForLife> relative opacity 100%

19:35 <zombie67> 4 alarm fire a few mile away (I am in the hills)

19:36 <CoderForLife> yikes

19:36 <zombie67> 80% contained

19:36 <efc> I always wondered how they defined that.. "xxx" contained

19:36 <zombie67> SWAG

19:37 <CoderForLife> 83% of all statistics are made up on-the-fly 76% of the time

19:37 <CoderForLife> 4 out of 5 dentists agree

19:37 <efc> Thats 62% bull($#@, CFL

19:38 <CoderForLife> ah, but's the other 76% that will get you

19:38 <xcamel> and 38% organic filler.

19:39 <efc> the first 80% of the project takes the first 80% of the time, the last 20% work takes the second 80% of the time

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19:42 <efc> I hear you singing in the wire, CFL

19:42 <zombie67> like that DIRECTV commercial:  "90% of all statistics can be made to say anything...50% of the time."

19:44 <CoderForLife> Six Phases of a Project...

19:44 <CoderForLife> 1) Enthusiasm

19:44 <CoderForLife> 2) Disillusionment

19:44 <CoderForLife> 3) Panic

19:44 <CoderForLife> 4) Search for the guilty

19:45 <CoderForLife> 5) Punishment of the innocent

19:45 <CoderForLife> 6) Rewards for the non-participants

19:45 <efc> Dude, you are management material

19:45 <CoderForLife> yes, I've had the lobotomy

19:46 <PovAddict> lol

19:47 <efc> I think I'm at the sad point of acceptance, I'll do it if its more money

19:48 <CoderForLife> you have sold your soul

19:49 <efc> I'm only offering it for sale. No takers yet.

19:49 <CoderForLife> ah - hold out for the highest bidder

19:51 <efc> I should watch out for the guy with horns. I hear he pays well.

19:51 <CoderForLife> yeah, a bad charater

19:52 <CoderForLife> I hear there's someone else who has already paid the price for you

19:53 <efc> I never saw any of that money

19:53 <CoderForLife> I think it was another form of transaction

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19:54 <efc> Well don't try to buy me off with intangibles

19:54 <efc> For example the in-house hoo-rah movie did not really motivate me

19:55 <efc> "Who are those guys" what a load of )$)@

19:55 <PovAddict> &math calc 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 / 920038623

19:55 <Romulus> PovAddict: 10869108915659076149198916374093157025972224

19:55 <PovAddict> &google calc 10869108915659076149198916374093157025972224 seconds in years

19:56 <Romulus> PovAddict: 10 869 108 915 659 076 149 198 916 374 093 157 025 972 224 seconds = 3.44428634 * 10^(35) years

19:56 <efc> cough cough  http://www.ts.northropgrumman.com/videos/who-are-these-guys.html  cough cough

19:56 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5ptgmy> (at www.ts.northropgrumman.com)

19:56 <PovAddict> &google calc 1 year in seconds

19:56 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1 year = 31 556 926 seconds

19:56 <CoderForLife> calculating the time to pay off the U.S. national debt?

19:56 <PovAddict> &math calc 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 / 920038623 / 31556926

19:56 <Romulus> PovAddict: 344428634007605041940625815674814464

20:00 <CoderForLife> "Technical Services"  - a bit overplayed, eh?

20:02 <xcamel> that's cute..

20:03 <xcamel> I still go to see HellBoy II though...

20:05 <xcamel> you don't like NG?

20:06 <efc> I can confirm or deny nothing

20:07 <efc> I can only confirm that the movies have been an object of ridicule

20:08 * efc just found the old sound from "A Current Affair," time to play it 900 times

20:08 <CoderForLife> I need to go to bed and get up very early to get some stuff done for a 9am meeting - too tired to think this evening

20:08 <CoderForLife> cya folks

20:08 <efc> Later CFL

20:08 <PovAddict> o/

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20:10 <xcamel> later Don

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20:12 <nickuwo> Hey everybody

20:13 <Tank_Master_> &seen everybody

20:13 <Romulus> Tank_Master_: I have not seen everybody.

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20:14 <nickuwo> I'm getting a unresolved external symbol _imp_strtok error from my linker even though I'm including string.h ... Do I have do something special with the linker in order for it to find it?

20:15 <PovAddict> using gcc?

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20:19 <nickuwo> if that will help, i will, but im using vs right now

20:20 <nickuwo> I know, I'm a windows whore :)

20:21 <dizzie> Don't swear :) Windows is evil :p

20:22 <nickuwo> spose I should be asking in #c++ n e way

20:22 <efc> what kind of strings is this? There were a couple flavors I think

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20:22 <efc> AFX and MFC or something like that. its been a while. It was a linker option you had to mess with.

20:23 <nickuwo> not sure...

20:29 <zombie67> ack!  yoyo forum changed, and everything is in german.

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20:53 <nickuwo> I had to change from /MD to /MT if anyone cares :)

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21:29 <PovAddict> nickuwo: if you had asked in ##c++ about a problem with Microsoft compiler, you'd get flamed pretty quick

21:35 <nickuwo> It was close...

21:35 <xcamel> &wx 12074

21:35 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 70.9F / 21.6C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with isolated showers. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds up to 10 mph this evening becoming light. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Humid with highs in the lower (1 more message)

21:35 <PovAddict> "get that nonportable crap out of my sight" :)

21:35 <xcamel> &more

21:35 <Romulus> xcamel: 90s. Southwest winds up to 5 mph shifting to the south in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Humid with lows in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph.;

21:36 <nickuwo> so why did David use VS for BOINC on Windows? I wonder...

21:37 <PovAddict> well, it's the official compiler for Windows...

21:37 <nickuwo> i c

21:52 <Didactylos> PovAddict: why would #C++ be so intolerant?

21:53 <Didactylos> VS is more ansi compliant than some compilers I could name!

21:53 <PovAddict> well, actually they *would* help with C++ language problems if you're using VS compiler

21:54 <PovAddict> but not about compiler-specific problems... like switches

21:54 <Didactylos> True.

21:55 <nickuwo> I regretted sending that workunit file without chopping that number the instant I hit send :)

21:56 <Didactylos> Who the hell uses char*&?

21:56 <PovAddict> not me

21:57 <PovAddict> but I swear I have seen a TEXTURE*** argument in POV-Ray code

21:57 <Didactylos> Is the problem in MFILE::puts

21:57 <xcamel> laterz..

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22:08 <PovAddict> weird... if I have "Class* obj" then "*obj" is a "const Class&" rather than a "Class&"?

22:09 <Didactylos> Used to have fun with stuff like that at University.

22:10 <Didactylos> Now I keep my code safe, dull and maintainable.

22:10 <nickuwo> boooring

22:10 <nickuwo> I can't even write code

22:10 <Didactylos> (Note: this doesn't stop me using templates and inner classes)

22:11 <PovAddict> if it wasn't that I want maintainable code too, I'd just pass the pointer and be done with it; but that exposes some implementation detail here

22:12 <Didactylos> I just woke up.

22:12 <Didactylos> When I'm one coffee down, maybe I can help you :-)

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22:16 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12287

22:16 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6y7yjx> (at www.dailytech.com)

22:17 <PovAddict> one error to go; the easiest one

22:17 <PovAddict> where is 'sleep' declared?

22:27 <PovAddict> works!

22:38 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomsguide.com/us/baby-eBay-sale,news-1872.html

22:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6qcptw> (at www.tomsguide.com)

22:40 <zombie67> &weather 94568

22:40 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 90.5F / 32.5C | Humidity: 27% | Pressure: 29.63in / 1003.3hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Areas of smoke. Lows in the upper 50s to lower 80s. West winds 5 to 20 mph.; Tuesday - Sunny. Areas of smoke. Highs in the 92 to 103. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Clear. Areas of smoke. Lows in the 60s to lower (1 more message)

22:40 <zombie67> &more

22:40 <Romulus> zombie67: 80s. West winds 5 to 20 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Heat Advisory for Alameda County in effect until 5:00 PM PDT on July 10, 2008;

22:44 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

22:44 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 67.1F / 19.5C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.20in / 988.7hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Clear in the evening...then areas of low clouds and fog late. Lows 53 to 63. Light winds.; Tuesday - Areas of low clouds and fog in the morning...otherwise sunny. Highs 81 to 86 in the western valleys to 93 to 98 near the (1 more message)

22:48 <zombie67> &more

22:48 <Romulus> zombie67: Error: That's all, there is no more.

22:48 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

22:48 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 72.3F / 22.4C | Humidity: 95% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009.0hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Numerous thunderstorms late in the evening...then isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Low in the upper 60s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph. (1 more message)

22:48 <wdsmia> &more

22:48 <Romulus> wdsmia: Chance of thunderstorms 70 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the mid 80s. Northwest wind near 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the mid 60s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to the northeast after midnight.;

22:49 <wdsmia> &more Soul_keeper

22:49 <Romulus> wdsmia: foothills. Light winds.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Lows 57 to 66. Light winds.;

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