IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-07-09

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00:00 <Soul_keeper> i just boycott things that aren't well maintained or are buggy/bloated ie: gnome/kde

00:00 <Soul_keeper> avoid*

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00:08 <Soul_keeper> i think i'm gonna put up a john mccain yard sign

00:08 <Soul_keeper> he shares my philosophy about bloat

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00:21 <nickuwo> I always thought he looked bloated too

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01:05 <efc> moo

01:06 <PovAddict> baa

01:06 <PovAddict> zzz

01:19 <efc> Still haven't bested WU 26..

01:20 <efc> after 153

01:22 <Soul_keeper> found a video of an e8500 oc' to 5.1GHz on liquid nitrogen

01:22 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tkarena.com/Videos/VideoPlayer/tabid/68/VideoId/69/Extreme-Overclocking-With-Liquid-Nitrogen.aspx

01:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5ch8db> (at www.tkarena.com)

01:23 <efc> Yikes

01:23 <efc> I'm suprised it would hold up that fast.. electrons do have a max speed..

01:24 <Soul_keeper> well considering that ibm is running at like 5GHz now, and people had oc'd the P4 over 4GHz on ln   it's not so hard to believe

01:24 <efc> Yeah, I wonder if they are hitting the switching limit, or the speed of electrons limit

01:25 <Soul_keeper> the guy calls it "a safe 5.1GHz"

01:25 <Soul_keeper> so he could probably push it a few 100 more

01:25 <Soul_keeper> heat is definately the largest issue

01:26 <efc> He's so undedicated, where's his liquid helium

01:26 <Soul_keeper> heh

01:29 <Soul_keeper> he was saying that stuff is only a few bucks a litre

01:34 <efc> is there anything to people filling their tires with nitrogen? It sounds suspicious to me

01:35 <Soul_keeper> havn't heard that one

01:35 <efc> people are paying $40 to fill tires with nitrogren

01:35 <efc> claim a "smoother ride"

01:35 <efc> sounds like BS to me

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01:36 <Soul_keeper> well if it is too "smooth" then you'll lose traction

01:36 <efc> moo TM

01:36 <Tank_Master> hiya efc

01:37 <efc> http://www.straightdope.com/columns/070216.html

01:37 <Romulus> Title: The Straight Dope: Is it better to fill your tires with nitrogen instead of air? (at www.straightdope.com)

01:37 <Tank_Master> lol

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01:40 <efc> more ignorance of the masses

01:41 <efc> there must be some way i can separate the fools from their money

01:41 <efc> I'd thought about selling gourmet hickory nuts

01:41 <efc> for like $20 a pound

01:41 <efc> they taste just like pecans but there would be a snob factory

01:41 <Soul_keeper> yeah you'd win

01:41 <efc> (very, very hard to shell them)

01:43 <efc> or hickory nut coffee

01:43 <Soul_keeper> they'll buy millions of it

01:43 <Soul_keeper> people sell sponges on tv, and make millions

01:44 <Soul_keeper> supposedly specially designed breakthru technology for washing your car

01:44 <Tank_Master> like the wamoo or whever the fabric is called?

01:45 <Tank_Master> suposidly can hold liquid 20x its weight

01:45 <efc> at the gas station now they harass you with some kind of crap fuel additive. Naturally they have three levels of quality.

01:45 <Soul_keeper> heh

01:46 <Tank_Master> crap, worthless, and expensive

01:46 <efc> won't let you pump until you hit "no". I hit "no" very, very hard.

01:46 <Tank_Master> lol

01:46 <efc> damn thing talks to you very loud

01:46 <Tank_Master> and repeadidly?

01:46 <efc> WELCOME

01:46 <efc> Yep

01:46 <Soul_keeper> they ask me for a car wash everytime

01:46 <Tank_Master> good ;)

01:46 <Soul_keeper> i havn't washed my truck since i bought it like 2yrs ago

01:47 <Soul_keeper> imagine how much money i'd have wasted if i washed it every week

01:47 <Tank_Master> I just tell the guy "fill, regular"

01:47 <Tank_Master> and dont even get out

01:47 <Tank_Master> did you know its illegal to pump your own gas in Oregon?

01:48 <Soul_keeper> no

01:48 <efc> No. Somebody must have gotten paid off for that one.

01:48 <Tank_Master> lol

01:48 <Tank_Master> no

01:48 <efc> Here it illegal to pump if you are under 16. So you can drive (learner's permit) but you can't pump.

01:48 <Tank_Master> we are one of 2 states that have a manditory mini service

01:48 <Soul_keeper> so there are completely no self service stations ?  hmmm

01:49 <Tank_Master> none at all

01:49 <Soul_keeper> are oregonians afraid that some random person will light up a cig or something ?

01:49 <Tank_Master> no, probably just lazzy

01:50 <Tank_Master> only costs about 3-4c extra per gallon

01:50 <efc> When it existed here (its gone now) full serve was 20-30 cents extra, and that was back when gas was 90 cents

01:50 <Tank_Master> lol

01:51 <Tank_Master> it keeps the high school dropout employed

01:51 <Soul_keeper> geeze i have to sleep, i get extremely depressed/angry when this time comes

01:51 <Tank_Master> gn then

01:52 <efc> LA is a great big freeway. Put a hundred down and buy a car. In a week, maybe two, they'll make you a star. And all the stars that never were, are parking cars and pumping gas.

01:52 <Tank_Master> hehe

01:53 <efc> Don't think thats changed in 40 years.

01:54 <efc> great song..

02:02 <efc> http://home.earthlink.net/~cottongim/SanJose2.mp3

02:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5tshkv> (at home.earthlink.net)

02:06 <efc> holy moly, the coffee syrup mom likes is $37 now

02:07 <efc> oh, thats for a CASE

02:08 <Tank_Master> LOL

02:10 <efc> case of 9

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02:48 <efc> here's a new one

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02:48 <efc> 7/9/2008 12:12:12 AM|SETI@home|Message from server: Completed result 01my08ae.8733.13570.14.8.160_1 refused: result already reported as success

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04:59 <clusty> KathrynM, hey kathy

04:59 <clusty> ..and good crunching folk

05:08 <CoderForLife> morning clusty

05:08 <clusty> how are the henchmen CoderForLife ?:D

05:09 <CoderForLife> um, henchmen?

05:09 <clusty> your subordinates

05:09 <clusty> if memory does not fail me you were some tech manager?

05:10 <CoderForLife> xcamel: plink 58.252.70.99

05:10 <CoderForLife> you're close clusty

05:11 <CoderForLife> I just don't have any "direct reports"

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05:12 <CoderForLife> morning dizzie

05:13 <dizzie> Goodmorning :)

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05:50 <xcamel> boo..

05:51 <dizzie> Hello xcamel

05:51 <CoderForLife> boo

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06:30 <hawmps> mornin

06:30 <CoderForLife> hello again

06:30 <CoderForLife> got out lights punched out for 3-1/2 hours last night

06:32 <CoderForLife> out=our

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06:51 <hawmps> MUGGY-FEST

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08:59 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

08:59 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 76.8F / 24.9C | Humidity: 74% | Pressure: 29.79in / 1008.7hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this morning...then showers and thunderstorms likely this afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly (1 more message)

08:59 <jackygrahamez> &more

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09:05 <hawmps> hot, humid, and coffee with a very high 'raunch' factor....

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09:05 <hawmps> 78.6F and 100% humidity

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09:09 <Didactylos> How do you say "Oh, you have a team. I hadn't noticed." without giving offense?

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09:26 <wdsmia_w> &wx 50319

09:26 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: Temperature: 67.3F / 19.6C | Humidity: 88% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 80s. South wind near 5 mph increasing to southwest 10 to 15 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 20 percent chance (1 more message)

09:26 <wdsmia_w> &more

09:26 <Romulus> wdsmia_w: of thunderstorms. Low in the mid 60s. South wind 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 80s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

09:30 <hawmps> same old same old, eh?

09:30 <wdsmia_w> yup

09:30 <hawmps> ditto here

09:31 <hawmps> now 80F/100% humid

09:32 <wdsmia_w> would be great if humidy would stay about 20%

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10:20 <zombie67> &weather 94568

10:20 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 66.9F / 19.4C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.48in / 998.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny and hot. Areas of smoke. Highs 98 to 110. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Areas of smoke. Lows in the mid 60s to lower 70s. West winds 10 to 20 mph...becoming southwest around 5 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly (1 more message)

10:20 <zombie67> &more

10:20 <Romulus> zombie67: sunny and continued hot. Areas of smoke. Highs 97 to 109. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Excessive Heat Warning for Alameda County in effect until 11:00 AM PDT on July 11, 2008;

10:20 <zombie67> ugh ...Today - Sunny and hot. Areas of smoke. Highs 98 to 110.

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10:29 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

10:29 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 60.5F / 15.8C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 90. Light wind becoming north 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the 50s. Northwest wind 10 to 20 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Areas of morning clouds (1 more message)

10:29 <Tank_Master> &more

10:29 <Romulus> Tank_Master: then mostly sunny. Not as warm. Highs around 80. Northwest wind increasing to 10 to 20 mph in the afternoon.;

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11:56 <yoyo[RKN]> re

11:56 <yoyo[RKN]> zombie67: ?

11:56 <Romulus> It has been said that zombie67: is it CPUs you're changing, yoyo[RKN]

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12:43 <Didactylos> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/changeset/15157

12:43 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 15157 - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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13:08 <PovAddict> Didactylos: not checking for null before fclosing? o_o

13:09 <Didactylos> No, I kind of meant the other (breaking) change....

13:09 <Didactylos> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/ticket/694

13:09 <Romulus> Title: #694 (Resizing std*dae.txt in cc_config.xml option broken.) - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:10 <PovAddict> oh it's an old changeset

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13:12 <PovAddict> X crashed

13:13 <dizzie> X is evil :)

13:13 <PovAddict> not like there is an alternative

13:13 <dizzie> I dont use X

13:14 <PovAddict> yeah and then you can't even see pictures in websites

13:14 <dizzie> Mplayer works in console

13:14 <dizzie> Sure i can

13:15 <dizzie> I need a new dns brooker, the one i use is borked

13:16 <PovAddict> Didactylos: hah! and Rom fixed the app name wrong

13:16 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/changeset/15576

13:16 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 15576 - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:17 <Didactylos> I'm just not surprised any more.

13:17 <PovAddict> I provided a patch, patch got ignored and he fixed it his way

13:17 <PovAddict> not to mention fixes like [15580]; I went through *all* files adding needed headers

13:17 <zombie67> hi yoyo!

13:17 <PovAddict> tell Charlie to try building synecdoche :)

13:18 <Didactylos> Hmm. Maybe I should dig through all the past submitted patches, and check that they were really fixed....

13:18 <Didactylos> Nah. BOINC's too broken.

13:18 <dizzie> PovAddict: Why does your X crash?

13:18 <zombie67> aka yoyo_RKN

13:18 <dizzie> Driver issue ?

13:18 <PovAddict> dizzie: I think so

13:18 <dizzie> nv?

13:18 <yoyo_RKN> hi zombie67

13:18 <zombie67> hi

13:18 <PovAddict> yep... when I open a chat window on Kopete by clicking the View button on the balloon notifying me of a new message

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13:19 <PovAddict> the nvidia driver flips a coin

13:19 <PovAddict> if tails, it segfaults

13:19 <dizzie> kde3.5 or 4?

13:19 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011

13:19 <PovAddict> 3.5

13:19 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 86.9F / 30.5C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 29.78in / 1008.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Showers and thunderstorms likely. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy. Showers and thunderstorms likely in the evening...then a chance of showers (1 more message)

13:19 <dizzie> Odd... what nv card?

13:19 <Didactylos> What's the *correct* way to fix the diagnostics initialisation?

13:19 <PovAddict> GeForce 8600 GT

13:20 <dizzie> 9800 here... hrm let me try X

13:20 <dizzie> Brb :)

13:20 <PovAddict> heh and yet another fix-over-the-fix to make it build everywhere: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/changeset/15584

13:20 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 15584 - BOINC - Trac (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

13:20 <PovAddict> although I do wonder if *my* fix worked fine in all those cases

13:20 <Didactylos> My thinking is it ought to use the default output streams until configured, so config errors still get logged somewhere.

13:20 <Didactylos> But that causes more difficulties...

13:20 <dizzie> In X now, on Debian (i killed Ubuntu (finally))

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13:21 <dizzie> Hello ELGono

13:21 <PovAddict> how about reverting that fix (read config before initializing logging); if the config-parsing crashes, we don't get an automatic stack trace, big deal; just run it under a debugger

13:22 <dizzie> I got a 1.4GB coredump yesterday

13:22 <dizzie> UAE got pissy :)

13:23 <zombie67> yoyo:  i saw the follow up to my post on the forum.  all is fixed now.

13:23 <dizzie> UAE running AUAE running MacOSX (10.4) didnt work well :p

13:23 <zombie67> what's a "PDA-Benutzer"?

13:24 <dizzie> PDA User?

13:24 <dizzie> PDA's are evil :p

13:24 <jackygrahamez> &more

13:24 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows around 70. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Northwest winds around 10 mph.;

13:24 <zombie67> that is what the forum call me:  http://www.rechenkraft.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=8912&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

13:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5qhacs> (at www.rechenkraft.net)

13:25 <dizzie> Funny

13:25 <dizzie> PovAddict: can i pm you? (eg. its not for everyone to see)

13:26 <PovAddict> sure

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13:43 <yoyo_RKN> you are a PDA user, zombie67 ;)

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13:47 <Didactylos> Methinks Pov needs new drivers.

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13:48 <PovAddict> okay, I can't use kopete without X crashing

13:51 <PovAddict> so... do I get the x86_64 F9 install DVD?

13:54 * PovAddict downloads the KDE liveCD instead

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15:38 <zombie67> http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15365

15:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6pc47c> (at www.free-dc.org)

15:52 <jackygrahamez> Let me know if my t-shirts suck :-d

15:52 <jackygrahamez> I'm going to have some vector images by tomorrow

15:52 <xcamel> IP kill - another morfeus a**hole >> 67.15.181.25

15:53 <jackygrahamez> http://boinc.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/Index/index/page/1

15:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6s6k5y> (at boinc.spreadshirt.com)

15:54 <xcamel> I'm thinking that is a copyrighted logo/image/name and you better have permission to market it...

15:55 <PovAddict> I think he's selling them at cost price, and yes he does have permission, go look at the mailing lists

15:55 <jackygrahamez> no markup same thing Rytis is doing

15:57 <xcamel> you may be selling them at a "cost price" but the t-shirt people are making at least 70%

15:57 <jackygrahamez> probably

15:58 <xcamel> and the permission needed would be from Berkeley...

15:58 <PovAddict> David Anderson said it's fine

15:58 <jackygrahamez> I wish I could get the Promodoro Raglan Shortsleeve

15:58 <jackygrahamez> http://boinc.spreadshirt.net/en/EU/Shop

15:58 <jackygrahamez> The ones with the navy sleeves they don't have them available in the US store

15:58 <xcamel> David does not "own" Berkeley's name - and cannot give permission to use it that way...

15:59 <jackygrahamez> Berkeley is a city so the University does not have the rights for the name either

16:00 <xcamel> it's UC Berkeley, and owned by the state of California

16:01 <jackygrahamez> that's right the Governator might come after me :-)

16:01 <xcamel> Just telling you what you might be in for...

16:01 <PovAddict> wrong place to be discussing it anyway

16:01 <xcamel> not hardly..

16:02 <Didactylos> Oh, yes! post it to the list. I'd just love to see DA's reply!

16:02 <jackygrahamez> legal issues aside, any issues with the style?

16:02 <Didactylos> I'm sure he controls the rights to "BOINC" even if he doesn't own them.

16:03 <xcamel> I'm sure you know much more about programming than you do about business law...

16:03 <PovAddict> there were 41 messages about the topic on boinc_projects and a few of them cross-posted to boinc_dev

16:03 <PovAddict> go tell them there

16:04 <xcamel> not my job - just wait until one of those government bureaucrats gets his panties in a bunch over it...

16:05 <xcamel> one still needs written permission to use the SETI logo for commercial purposes..

16:06 <xcamel> dot your "i" 's and cross your "t" ' s is always the best path...

16:08 <Didactylos> Tell me about it. IBM gave the mechandising rights for the WCG logo to a single company, and clawing them back is proving... difficult.

16:16 <jackygrahamez> If I were making money off sales, that would be something different. If there were a cheaper service for making these t-shirts, I'd like to hear about it

16:19 <dizzie> Afternoon/Evening all :)

16:19 <xcamel> the law really doesn't care if you specifically are making any money - altruism is synonymous with "fool" in the eyes of the law.

16:21 <xcamel> Now... will anyone really care? I doubt it, unless, unless as I said, some idiot from the UC system decides you jumped the shark.

16:22 <xcamel> it has happened before, many times in fact, and that's why the copyright laws fill about 5 large volumes...

16:28 <jackygrahamez> I don't know the arguement you have if its because it contains the name berkeley, there are quite a few names containing berkeley just for giggles I'll do a copyright search

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16:32 <jackygrahamez> also searching trademarks

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16:46 <jackygrahamez> I looked through USPTO for trademarks and copyrights. I think I'm covered

16:49 <zombie67> &weather 94568

16:49 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 99F / 37C | Humidity: 18% | Pressure: 29.72in / 1006hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h ; Today - Sunny and hot. Areas of smoke. Highs 98 to 110. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Areas of smoke. Lows in the mid 60s to lower 70s. West winds 10 to 20 mph...becoming southwest around 5 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Mostly sunny (1 more message)

16:49 <zombie67> &more

16:49 <Romulus> zombie67: and continued hot. Areas of smoke. Highs 97 to 109. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Excessive Heat Warning for Alameda County in effect until 11:00 AM PDT on July 11, 2008;

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17:26 <Soul_keeper> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-nehalem-core,5854.html

17:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5mwkjx> (at www.tomshardware.com)

17:27 <Soul_keeper> nehalem will be 4 cores with hyperthreading for 8 logical cores

17:41 <CoderForLife> greetings

17:41 <CoderForLife> bbiab  dinner

17:41 <jackygrahamez> night

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17:42 <dizzie> 8?

17:42 <dizzie> Thats sick

17:42 <dizzie> :p

17:45 <PovAddict> the more the better

17:49 <xcamel> that Tyan thunder board - 4 chips with 4 real cores...

17:49 <xcamel> needs like 64GB of memory though...

17:53 <dizzie> 64 as min. ?

17:54 <dizzie> Mad hehe

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17:54 <Soul_keeper> so when intel updates nehalem to 8 cores, that'll be 16  ...

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17:55 <Soul_keeper> clock for clock apparently 25% faster than the c2d ....

17:56 <Soul_keeper> sounds like most if not all that benefit comes from the HT, will need to see more to be sure

17:56 <dizzie> So in % how much more efficient?

17:56 <Soul_keeper> c2q*

17:56 <PovAddict> HT is basically letting one thread run while another waits for memory?

17:56 <dizzie> Mind me spelling hehe

17:57 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict,  HT is basically a single core that has 2 of some components and shares others

17:57 <Soul_keeper> the limiting factor of course is the shared components

17:57 <PovAddict> "The technology improves processor performance under certain workloads by providing useful work for execution units that would otherwise be idle, for example during a cache miss."

17:58 <Soul_keeper> that's why 30-40%  performance increase was about the top for  the P4  instead of 50%

17:58 <dizzie> So 16 cores on stereoids ;)

17:58 <Soul_keeper> no, 8 cores on steroids

17:59 <Soul_keeper> but the first model will be  4 cores on steroids

17:59 <dizzie> Guess many compilers needs updating then :p

17:59 <Soul_keeper> shouldn't

18:01 <PovAddict> "More recently Hyper-Threading has been criticised as being energy inefficient. For example, specialist low-power CPU design company ARM has stated SMT can use up to 46% more power than dual CPU designs."

18:01 <PovAddict> so that's why the P4 heats like crazy

18:01 <Soul_keeper> figures

18:02 <dizzie> I'm used to "-j4" when compiling, guess i can do -j32 or so with a system like this :p

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18:03 <Soul_keeper> indeed

18:03 <Soul_keeper> :)

18:03 <dizzie> The word fun gets a new expression :)

18:07 <PovAddict> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

18:07 <Romulus> Title: Megahertz myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

18:10 <CoderForLife> back

18:10 <dizzie> lol people comparing computer power in mhz are idiots

18:10 <CoderForLife> re-greetingd

18:10 <dizzie> Hello CoderForLife

18:10 <CoderForLife> er greetings

18:10 <CoderForLife> hello dizzie =)

18:16 <xcamel> 'lo Don

18:16 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

18:16 <CoderForLife> we took a beating last night

18:17 <CoderForLife> lights out for 3-1/2 hours

18:17 <CoderForLife> lots of tree damage around

18:17 <dizzie> Speaking of lights out... Goodnight :)

18:17 <CoderForLife> cya diz

18:18 <xcamel> hardly anything here :-(

18:18 <CoderForLife> I don't think I'm exagerating when I say some 80 mph gusts

18:19 <CoderForLife> my big trees were swaying about 25 feet at the top each way

18:19 <xcamel> very possible..

18:19 <CoderForLife> I thought they would go down

18:19 <CoderForLife> heard one big one fall downstream after the front had passed

18:22 <xcamel> most of what had headed this way has fallen apart - except for one nasty cell south of albany

18:23 <CoderForLife> hmm

18:25 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news July 9, 2008

18:25 <PovAddict> 3 minutes left for my fedora download

18:26 <CoderForLife> going to try it?

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18:29 <efc> Moo

18:29 <Soul_keeper> good work

18:32 <zombie67> &weather 94568

18:32 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 104F / 40C | Humidity: 15% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1006hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming around 10 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs around 102. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows (1 more message)

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18:34 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

18:34 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 75.8F / 24.3C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.20in / 988.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 7.0mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 56 to 66. Light winds.; Thursday - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 81 to 86 in the western valleys to 90 to 95 near the foothills. Light winds.; Thursday (1 more message)

18:34 <Soul_keeper> i won't trade you

18:35 <xcamel> dropped down to 73 here...

18:36 <bryanUC> &weather 43016

18:36 <Romulus> bryanUC: Temperature: 80.4F / 26.9C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.89in / 1012.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then becoming mostly clear. A slight chance of showers with isolated thunderstorms early. Lows in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs in (1 more message)

18:36 <xcamel> but the humidity is still quite high

18:37 <CoderForLife> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080709203655.lgzq5fmw&show_article=1

18:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5787zl> (at www.breitbart.com)

18:38 <CoderForLife> heya Soul_keeper bryanUC efc zombie67

18:39 <efc> (moo)*

18:39 <CoderForLife> response = *moo;

18:39 <zombie67> but it's a *dry* heat!

18:40 <xcamel> cough...wheeze...

18:42 <efc> I like this powerpoint file.. its got an alien from Mars Attacks on every slide

18:56 <xcamel> ack..ackack..ackackack...

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18:58 <efc> Jack's tirade at the end was great

18:58 <efc> Something about giving free beer to the Irish so they'd outbreed the Martians?

19:03 <Soul_keeper> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ufo+flyer&hl=en&sitesearch=#q=anti gravity&hl=en&sitesearch=&start=50

19:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/57togh> (at video.google.com)

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19:15 <Soul_keeper> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ufo+flyer&hl=en&sitesearch=#q=anti gravity&hl=en&sitesearch=&start=70

19:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/57togh> (at video.google.com)

19:16 <PovAddict> those links break in the space

19:16 <Soul_keeper> that's the kinda stuff hitler was working on during WW2

19:18 <Soul_keeper> ook

19:18 <Soul_keeper> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6481353283566706320&q=anti+gravity&ei=J0d1SJ6COYj84AKMn52eCw&hl=en

19:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5h5t73> (at video.google.com)

19:19 <Soul_keeper> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7737147572422862096&q=anti+gravity&ei=-kN1SLSGHob04AL99ZWfCw&hl=en

19:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5awlyt> (at video.google.com)

19:19 <Soul_keeper> try those

19:29 <KathrynM_> &wx ulsan

19:29 <Romulus> KathrynM_: Temperature: 74°F / 23°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.80in / 1009hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Overcast. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Rain. Low:69 F. / 21 C.;

19:29 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM_

19:29 <KathrynM_> hiya

19:29 <KathrynM_> I see I grew a tail

19:29 <KathrynM_> time for a tail-ectomy

19:29 <CoderForLife> I was just admiring it

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19:29 <CoderForLife> or not

19:31 <KathrynM> 2 mornings off + a poor night's sleep + dentist nightmares = crabby KathrynM

19:31 <CoderForLife> aww

19:32 <PovAddict> eek

19:32 <KathrynM> No idea where the dentist nightmares came from

19:32 <PovAddict> "dentist nightmares"? that's redundant

19:32 <CoderForLife> grinding your teeth at night?

19:33 <KathrynM> I was glad my alarm went off

19:36 <PovAddict> "PS3GRID announces a collaboration with Sony Computer Entertainment Spain which donated to the project 20 Playstation3 to build a PS3 cluster and funds to support a Master student project."

19:41 <PovAddict> BOINCStats needs an extra graph:

19:41 * CoderForLife needs some extra rest

19:41 <PovAddict> to show along with http://boincstats.com/charts/chart_uk_bo_project_pie3dcpu.gif

19:41 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5dyuyg> (at boincstats.com)

19:42 <CoderForLife> going to plop down and watch TV

19:42 <PovAddict> "Hosts by number of cores"

19:42 <CoderForLife> cya folks

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20:01 <zombie67> agreed.  and they all need to be drillable.

20:02 <zombie67> when I click on the pie section of PS3s it should take me to that list of hosts.

20:02 <zombie67> &weather 94568

20:02 <Romulus> zombie67: Temperature: 103F / 39C | Humidity: 15% | Pressure: 29.68in / 1005hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 15mph / 24km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming around 10 mph after midnight.; Thursday - Sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs around 102. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Thursday Night - Mostly clear. Lows (1 more message)

20:02 <zombie67> &more

20:02 <Romulus> zombie67: in the mid 60s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph decreasing to 5 to 10 mph after midnight.; Heat Advisory, Excessive Heat Warning for Alameda County in effect until 11:00 AM PDT on July 11, 2008;

20:05 <xcamel> 'lo Zombie

20:08 <xcamel> hmmm.. seti over 2 million...

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20:08 <xcamel> 2083037.13

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20:09 <xcamel> oops... that was einstein..

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20:09 <xcamel> 'lo Larry

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20:09 <Soul_keeper> http://cbl-boinc-server2.cs.technion.ac.il/superlinkattechnion/         anyone tryed this project ?

20:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5zu3sg> (at cbl-boinc-server2.cs.technion.ac.il)

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20:14 <xcamel> interesting..

20:16 <Soul_keeper> says they increased their credits by 20%

20:16 <zombie67> I run it

20:16 <xcamel> I see that..

20:16 <xcamel> 10 hrs on this box - we'll see..

20:17 <Soul_keeper> zombie67, got a boincstats link ?

20:17 <zombie67> yes, they increase credits, but they also cap them artificially low.  so if you get a short task, you get a bit extra, if you get a long task, you get shorted

20:17 <zombie67> and they have a high memory requirement

20:17 <zombie67> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=0a7b8378436fdcaef549d87e35f26480

20:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2p6k3h> (at boincstats.com)

20:18 <zombie67> RAM: 1GB of RAM is suggested, as the computation typically requires up to 700MB of memory.

20:19 <zombie67> so that's 700mb/task needed

20:19 <Soul_keeper> interesting

20:19 <Soul_keeper> so you'r #4 in the project

20:19 <zombie67> oh yeah?

20:19 <Soul_keeper> how long you been running it ?

20:20 <zombie67> since it opened

20:20 <zombie67> June 2007

20:21 <zombie67> oh, one more thing.  they release work in batches.

20:21 <Soul_keeper> that's cool

20:21 <zombie67> so there may be work for several weeks, then a week with no work (repeat)

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20:21 <xcamel> as long as you get more than one WU at a time..

20:22 <Soul_keeper> lol you've contributed over 8% of all work done for the project in the US

20:23 <zombie67> check this:  http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15279

20:23 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6q3gpm> (at www.free-dc.org)

20:24 <Soul_keeper> cool

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20:34 <zombie67> http://www.free-dc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15315

20:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6mgsec> (at www.free-dc.org)

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21:23 * Soul_keeper remembers when amd was in the lead, all their cpu's were like 100 bucks and cheaper and they overclocked to be faster than anything on the market

21:23 <Soul_keeper> athlonxp was great

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21:29 * xcamel yawns

21:34 <Tank_Master> abc down?

21:43 <xcamel> checking..

21:44 <xcamel> yupper..

21:57 <xcamel> laterz..

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22:17 <ec__> hi

22:17 <ec__> where are workunits stored when using boinc on os x?

22:20 <Didactylos> Check the data directory at the top of the message log.

22:21 <ec__> it says it's in /library/application support/ boinc data......

22:22 <ec__> but i don't find any directory named boinc data under the directory 'application support'

22:23 <PovAddict> note /Library/ and ~/Library/ aren't the same :)

22:24 <PovAddict> one is on the disk root, the other is on your home directory

22:24 <ec__> ok

22:24 <ec__> i found it

22:24 <ec__> thanks povaddict

22:25 <ec__> bye

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22:38 <Soul_keeper> http://www.amd.com/us-en/0,,3715_15503,00.html?redir=45nm01

22:38 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/66kgb7> (at www.amd.com)

22:38 <Soul_keeper> i wonder if they'll make it this year

23:01 <Soul_keeper> i hope Deneb + am3  will be cool

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23:15 <PovAddict> top

23:15 <PovAddict> wrong window

23:17 <KathrynM> lol

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