IRC logs of #boinc for Saturday, 2008-07-12

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00:20 <surrealillusion> wow did anyone else's rac drop significantly with seti@home?

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00:44 <KathrynM> I can't get much lower than 0 :)

00:45 <Didactylos> KathrynM: can you remember that issue with some Linux stepping down the CPU even on desktops?

00:46 <KathrynM> yeah, but can't remember what it was called

00:46 <KathrynM> it popped up at E@H, let me do a quick search over there

00:48 <Didactylos> Was it OpenSuse?

00:48 <KathrynM> I thought it was Ubuntu

00:49 <KathrynM>

00:49 <Romulus> <> (at

00:49 <KathrynM> there's one thread. He was using Kubuntu

00:50 <KathrynM> They link a seti thread.

00:50 <KathrynM> Of couse, Seti is down.

00:53 <PovAddict> &list google

00:53 <Romulus> PovAddict: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, meta, phonebook, spell, and stats

00:53 <PovAddict> &google cache

00:53 <Romulus> <> (at

00:53 <Romulus> PovAddict:

00:54 <PovAddict> there you go

00:54 <Didactylos> Thanks, KathrynM !

00:54 <Didactylos> If this is a new kernel thing, we're going to see a lot more of this.

00:55 <Didactylos> PovAddict: I ignore that irritating bot.

00:55 <PovAddict>

00:55 <Romulus> <> (at

00:55 <KathrynM> lol

00:56 <KathrynM> it's not all that new.  Thinking back to a year ago, I'm pretty sure my Ubuntu install (7.04 I think) did the same thing, but I was too dumb to ask why.

00:56 <Didactylos> They broke the magic quotes again? Feeble.

00:57 <KathrynM> where?

00:57 <efc> moo

00:57 <PovAddict> no, they fixed the magic quotes and still haven't removed the backslashes from old posts

00:57 <PovAddict> afaik

00:58 <PovAddict> DA said it wasn't worth the effort; in a few minutes I wrote a tiny script to do it (and posted it), no replies

01:00 <Didactylos> Is there anything useful in that thread?

01:00 <Didactylos> I read it, but I couldn't tell.

01:02 <KathrynM> oh dear, that's the thread that never ends, right?

01:06 <Didactylos> Never mind. My duty here is done.

01:07 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

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02:02 <efc> darnit, missed atlantis

02:04 <Soul_keeper> it's 11pm on 7/11

02:05 <efc> which is in the past

02:25 <efc> S@H seems to be back up

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03:00 <dizzie> Morning all :)

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04:34 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:34 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 70.1F / 21.2C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.66in / 1004.3hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. (1 more message)

04:35 <CoderForLife> &more

04:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming northwest in the afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

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04:53 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

04:57 <CoderForLife> good morning KathrynM

05:04 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:10 <CoderForLife> b

05:15 <KathrynM> how's the Coding world?

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05:17 <CoderForLife> I did a little bit of real Coding yesterday, so "better"

05:17 <CoderForLife> hows the ELS world?

05:17 <KathrynM> Any day with Coding is a good day.

05:17 <CoderForLife> er ESL =)

05:18 <KathrynM> :)

05:18 <KathrynM> I told my boss that when the schedules are rearranged (teachers leaving and coming in the next few weeks) I didn't want a certain class.

05:18 <CoderForLife> good for you

05:18 <KathrynM> It's frustrating to listen to them whine, especially when you work after your contract specified ending time and spend a good dea of time planning a fun lesson for them.

05:19 <CoderForLife> All Whining Is Frustrating

05:19 <KathrynM> they're spoiled

05:20 <KathrynM> they are the top students in the school and they know it.

05:20 <KathrynM> and I won't treat them like precious little porcelin dolls.

05:21 <CoderForLife> we'll need to "improve" you attitude

05:21 <CoderForLife> your*

05:22 <KathrynM> I have no patience for brattiness lately.

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05:23 <CoderForLife> hey AFLAC

05:24 <AFLAC> Morining CFL

05:24 <KathrynM> AFLAC is here

05:24 <AFLAC> It is still dark here and I can't see my feathers yet

05:25 * CoderForLife toasts SK with his last little bite of breakfast - some leftover roast beef

05:25 <AFLAC> Hi KathrynM

05:25 <KathrynM> roast beef at 0525?

05:25 <KathrynM> I thought i was the only one with weird eating habits

05:25 <AFLAC> How are the Kids KathrynM?

05:25 <CoderForLife> a guy has to have something to eat...

05:26 <KathrynM> some good, some annoying AFLAC

05:26 <KathrynM> true CoderForLife

05:27 <KathrynM> And I'm getting ready to call the pizza place.

05:27 <AFLAC> We are all alike then :)

05:27 <KathrynM> :)

05:27 <KathrynM> as soon as I clean the gp cage that is

05:27 <AFLAC> Pizza for Breakfast?  ;)

05:27 <KathrynM> ick :/

05:27 <KathrynM> bbiab

05:27 <AFLAC> ok

05:28 <CoderForLife> now, here's a goal....

05:28 <Romulus> <> (at

05:30 <AFLAC>

05:30 <Romulus> <> (at

05:32 <AFLAC> interference lithography looks like we can get Moore's law to work again

05:32 <CoderForLife> one more time

05:35 <AFLAC> did I miss something?

05:35 <AFLAC> and now for the Green in me

05:35 <CoderForLife> did you?

05:35 <Romulus> <> (at

05:36 <AFLAC> &beer

05:36 <Romulus> Here's your beer, AFLAC... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

05:36 <CoderForLife> Green?  Are you a frog?

05:36 <AFLAC> only when I buy GAS

05:38 <AFLAC> another odd thing

05:38 <Romulus> Title: Disney, The Happiest Corp. on Earth puts the Screws to Florida Couple Dvorak Uncensored: General interest observations and true web-log. (at

05:41 <AFLAC> and now power to the people

05:41 <Romulus> <> (at

05:42 <CoderForLife> Mother Nature beckons - bbiab

05:45 <AFLAC> Green Mother Board

05:45 <Romulus> Title: Legit Reviews - Going Green? Which motherboard company is more efficient, ASUS or Gigabyte? - Conclusion (at

05:46 <AFLAC> ASUS of course :P

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05:49 <AFLAC> Gone to start some upggrades, b back later guyz and galz

05:50 <CoderForLife> k

06:02 <KathrynM> phew.  only took the nice lady 6 tries to understand my korean

06:03 <CoderForLife> the trouble was obviously in the hearer

06:03 <KathrynM> never in the speaking

06:03 <CoderForLife> she'll just have to get over that Buckeye accent

06:03 <KathrynM> lol

06:05 <KathrynM> hmmm  Independence Day is on TB

06:05 <KathrynM> TV that is

06:06 <CoderForLife> well - got to get ready to go to the grocery store - these guys coming sometimg this morning to look at my "event" -->

06:06 <Romulus> Title: Motz Enterprises Erosion Solutions - Flexamat - Fortress Rock - Fortress Rock - Landfill Erosion - Creek Erosion - Water Ersosion (at

06:07 <CoderForLife> sometime*

06:08 <KathrynM> Good luck

06:09 <CoderForLife> thanks - just trying to get off the dime

06:10 <CoderForLife> off to see the fruits and vegetables - laterz

06:11 * CoderForLife sees he's already away

06:11 <KathrynM> laterz

06:11 * CoderForLife nods, and waves

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08:27 <CoderForLife> back

08:28 <xcamel> 'lo

08:28 <xcamel> ip kill

08:29 <KathrynM> how was the store?

08:29 <xcamel> php hakzor

08:33 <KathrynM> I wish it would just rain already.  Despite what my little weather thingie says, it is not storming here, nor has it rained all day.

08:33 <CoderForLife> the store was torn up - they are going to expand a bit

08:33 <CoderForLife> thanks for the plink xcamel

08:33 <CoderForLife> stuff was moved, so it took me longer to find things

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08:39 <CoderForLife> when the music stops, grab your aisle

08:41 * CoderForLife waits for the phone call from the wall builder expected today

08:45 <CoderForLife> brb

08:45 <JamesB192> I'm on Gentoo Linux and I am getting the error 'Authorization failure: -155' when manually adding (malariacontrol & seti) projects to boinc. (I've never managed to get the default install to do anything) What do I need to kick to get the projects added?

08:47 <xcamel> &boincerr 155

08:47 <Romulus> xcamel: Error: I couldn't find 155 in boincerr.

08:47 <xcamel> &boincerr -155

08:47 <Romulus> xcamel: authentication error

08:48 <xcamel> are you using the console version?

08:49 <JamesB192> Yes, I am. I have kboincspy but I just intend to use it for monitoring.

08:50 <xcamel> nice...

08:50 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 July 12 - NGC 7331 and Beyond (at

08:50 <CoderForLife> yes, xcamel, very

08:50 <xcamel> the console version has a few too many quirks for the post 8086 age...

08:51 <xcamel> if your linux is running a desktop, use boincmgr..

08:52 <JamesB192> I haven't managed to manipulate Gentoo into building/installing it.

08:52 <CoderForLife> could this just be a gui_rpc_auth.cfg problem?

08:54 <KathrynM> I think you nailed it on the head CoderForLife

08:54 <JamesB192> it's mode 0600 and owned by me and my group.

08:55 <CoderForLife> what's *in* the file?

08:55 <CoderForLife> what password did you set, or none?

08:55 <xcamel> I haven't looked at kbs in a while..

08:56 <JamesB192> I dont remember setting a passwd and the content is '1fcc5a5a146d218f1cce4545f4748446'

08:56 <xcamel> gui_rpc_auth.cfg seems to be the problem in this case

08:56 <CoderForLife> my gui_rpc_auth.cfg is empty - a zero length file - no password required

08:57 <xcamel> I think he needs to clear that string..

08:57 <CoderForLife> yep

08:57 <CoderForLife> there's a password set

08:57 <KathrynM> or replace it with something memorable

08:57 <xcamel> and use the email/pswd combo

08:57 <KathrynM> wait, are you even using the manager?

08:57 <CoderForLife> Security Is Rarely Convenient (tm)

08:58 <JamesB192> No effect in changing it to a touchfile.

08:58 <xcamel> no K - it sounded like he was in text mode

08:58 <KathrynM> then that file has nothing to do with the boinc_cmd version

08:59 <JamesB192> I am in textmode.

08:59 <xcamel> 'zactly

08:59 <KathrynM> I'll bow out, it's too late here for debugging boinc.

08:59 <KathrynM> (as can be seen by my stupid comments)

08:59 <CoderForLife> but how does this text mode interface talk to the boinc process, via RPC?

09:00 <KathrynM> rpc prob, but note the gui part of the file ;)

09:00 <KathrynM> *file name

09:00 <CoderForLife> that password is applied to any RPC calls, I believe, GUI or not

09:00 <CoderForLife> it is presumed that you're going to use a GUI

09:01 <CoderForLife> iirc, password is part of the RPC handshake/protocol

09:01 <KathrynM> i suppose you could put a symlink to the file in the same directory you're in when you use boinc_cmd

09:02 <KathrynM> I always start my shell in ~ and there's a symlink to that file in that directory (or there used to be, I might have just put a copy of the file there last time I installed)

09:04 <JamesB192> running 'boinc_cmd attach' from the dir my boinc data files are in doesn't help.

09:05 <CoderForLife> boinc_cmd takes hostname and password parameters

09:05 <xcamel> James >>

09:06 <Romulus> Title: Boinc - Gentoo Linux Wiki (at

09:06 <CoderForLife> if you've got something in that cfg file, I'd say you have to enter a password

09:06 <xcamel> boinc_cmd --host localhost --passwd cfgpasswd --acct_mgr_rpc myusername mypassword

09:06 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at

09:06 <xcamel> that's for BAM anyway..

09:07 <xcamel> to create...

09:07 <xcamel> echo 'ThisPasswordIsEasyToRemember' > /var/lib/boinc/gui_rpc_auth.cfg

09:07 <CoderForLife> .. or wherever you have BOINC installed ..

09:08 <xcamel> assuming it was installed via emerge...

09:09 * CoderForLife bows out

09:09 <CoderForLife> bbiab

09:09 <xcamel> again bringing to light my contension that boinc is better installed all in one dir with it's own owner/user

09:11 <CoderForLife> I often find that your contentions are the right way

09:11 <KathrynM> BAsically how I have it aside from the executables which are in /usr/bin

09:16 <CoderForLife> I have marched to the beat of a different BOINC drummer

09:17 * CoderForLife does a little steel drum, samba move

09:18 * KathrynM is baking chocolate chocolate chip cookies.

09:18 <CoderForLife> I plopped BOINC right down smack dab in /home/me

09:18 <KathrynM> :)

09:18 <KathrynM> That's how I did it at first.

09:18 * CoderForLife gets on a plane

09:19 <CoderForLife> I'm on my way - save some cookies for me

09:19 * JamesB192 is tempted to kill the person who wrote that init script and desecrate their grave.

09:19 <CoderForLife> C is for Cookie, and that's good enough for me

09:19 <KathrynM> don't get too excited.  it's frozen cookie dough from lotte mart.

09:19 <KathrynM> lol

09:20 * KathrynM wouldn't know a bad init script if it bit me in the a$$

09:20 <CoderForLife> bad init scripts load secret pa$$words

09:20 <JamesB192> It was an init script problem. I thin the offending lines look like:

09:20 <JamesB192> setsid start-stop-daemon --quiet --start  --chdir ${RUNTIMEDIR} \

09:21 <KathrynM> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre

09:21 * KathrynM goes to hide in a corner

09:21 <JamesB192> --exec ${BOINCBIN} --chuid ${USER}:${GROUP} \

09:21 <JamesB192> --nicelevel ${NICELEVEL} -- ${ARGS} > ${LOGFILE} 2>&1 &

09:22 <KathrynM> don't know if it's any use to you, but I use the one on this page

09:22 <KathrynM>

09:22 <Romulus> <> (at

09:23 <CoderForLife> Arrrgghh -- I knew Pirates would help

09:23 <KathrynM> Eric is a lifesaving God.

09:23 <KathrynM> I'd be cursing Vista without his help.

09:24 <KathrynM> Now I can just curse Fedora but at least be able to fix most problems

09:24 <CoderForLife> you'd be justified with Vista

09:24 <KathrynM> cursing it?

09:25 * CoderForLife nods with vigor

09:25 <KathrynM> you should have heard the language coming out of my mouth the other day when pov asked me to get a screenshot of something.

09:25 <CoderForLife> when someone would ask me for a Vista screenshot, I'd put a bullet hole in it

09:26 <CoderForLife> then a couple more to be sure it stayed down

09:26 <KathrynM> lol

09:27 <CoderForLife> we have Vista on my wife's computer, and it's been nothing but a frigging supoprt nightmare for me

09:27 <KathrynM> upgrade to XP?

09:28 * KathrynM pours large glass of cold milk to go with her cookies

09:28 <KathrynM>

09:28 <Romulus> <> (at

09:29 <CoderForLife> I do need one instance of Vista in the house to find out the eighty thousand reasons why the Code I'm writing that will work everywhere else won't run there

09:29 <KathrynM> only 80K?

09:30 <CoderForLife> that's the number of categories of problems

09:30 <KathrynM> :D

09:30 <CoderForLife> Hardcourt?  Or Harcourt?

09:31 <CoderForLife> I remember Harcourt, Brace, and Jovanovich when I was in school

09:32 <KathrynM> harcourt. I probably speeled it wrong

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09:40 <xcamel> HBJ - the schoolbook mafia...

09:40 <CoderForLife> I seem to have struck a nerve =)

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09:42 <xcamel> It has been calculated that most college books would be cheaper printed on mint sheets of $5 bills

09:42 <KathrynM> oye, I've tried to forget about college book costss

09:42 <xcamel> except for that college loan payment book...

09:43 <KathrynM> trying to forget about those as well

09:43 <xcamel> if college books were gasoline, it would cost you $12 per mile to drive.

09:46 <CoderForLife> Jim Motz is on his way, we're going to talk about Fortress Rock Junior

09:46 <Romulus> <> (at

09:46 <KathrynM> good luck

09:47 <CoderForLife> thx

09:50 * KathrynM gives into the sandman

09:50 <KathrynM> night all

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11:16 <jackygrahamez__> hi

11:16 <jackygrahamez__> &wx 20001

11:17 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Temperature: 89.4F / 31.9C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; This Afternoon - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows around 70. South winds around 10 mph.; Sunday - Mostly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon. (1 more message)

11:17 <jackygrahamez__> &more

11:17 <Romulus> jackygrahamez__: Highs in the lower 90s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

11:17 <jackygrahamez__> Anybody good at Python?

11:17 <jackygrahamez__> I think I have a simple question

11:18 <jackygrahamez__> I'm just trying to figure out how to take out the brackets when I pass a parameter

11:18 <jackygrahamez__> print sys.argv[1:]

11:19 <jackygrahamez__> If I run this

11:19 <jackygrahamez__> Python25\python.exe test

11:19 <jackygrahamez__> i get ['test']

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11:51 <jackygrahamez__> ahh I finally got a code example

11:51 <jackygrahamez__> for name in sys.argv[1:]:

11:51 <jackygrahamez__> print name

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12:12 <xcamel> off to rake up all that hay...

12:12 <wdsmia> hf

12:18 <CoderForLife> hay fun

12:18 <BB_Laptop> 'lo everyone

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12:23 <CoderForLife> hey BB_Laptop

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14:57 <efc> Moo

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15:09 <BadBarbarian> Moo Too

15:10 <CoderForLife> Moo Three

15:11 <efc> Copy that

15:12 <CoderForLife> Paste that

15:14 <efc> I was looking at the S@H budget and outflow. Right now they're spending more per month just on bandwidth than they take in.

15:15 <Soul_keeper> fun

15:21 <Soul_keeper> did i miss anything ?

15:21 <efc> Here? I doubt it

15:22 <Soul_keeper> figures

15:23 <Soul_keeper> efc,  you got a saitek eclipse keyboard ?  or was that xcamel  ?

15:23 <efc> Not me

15:23 <Soul_keeper> i'm wearing mine out

15:24 <Soul_keeper> the letters on the keys that are in certain passwords are getting worn, and i broke my right arrow key off

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15:24 <Soul_keeper> apparently they make one with aluminum keys or something now

15:25 <dizzie> Evening all :)

15:25 <Soul_keeper> yo

15:25 <dizzie> I have bricked my Macmini :/

15:50 <KathrynM> that would be a bad thing dizzie

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15:58 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

15:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 85.6F / 29.8C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.55in / 1000.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7.3mph / 11.7km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny with scattered showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the upper (1 more message)

15:58 <CoderForLife> &more

15:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 60s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.; Sunday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph... becoming northwest in the afternoon. Chance of rain 50 percent.;

15:58 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

15:58 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 76°F / 24°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.70in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Chance of Rain. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:71 (1 more message)

15:58 <KathrynM> &more

15:58 <Romulus> KathrynM: F. / 22 C.;

16:07 <wdsmia> looks like I just broke the 11M mark :)

16:08 <Soul_keeper> wdsmia, how many cores do you have total ?

16:08 <KathrynM> way too many for his own good

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16:08 <wdsmia> lol

16:11 <Soul_keeper> i wanna build a quad deneb system when amd gets them out, then i'll likely upgrade my c2d to a c2q

16:11 <Soul_keeper> that'll more than double my output

16:12 <KathrynM> don't upgrade... by a new one and send the old one to me

16:13 * KathrynM is about 2 weeks away from the 1million mark

16:13 <Soul_keeper> well i got a P4 system and a c2d motherboard i don't want anymore ...

16:13 <Soul_keeper> the motherboard has a bad bios tho, takes 20 bucks to buy a new one

16:14 <Soul_keeper> P4's are basically worthless anymore

16:15 <KathrynM> yeah, I retired my P4 laptop

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16:18 <Soul_keeper> my problem is i don't want to increase the power drawl of my network anymore

16:19 <Soul_keeper> the 3 system i have right now pull like 650watts peak

16:19 <Soul_keeper> any more is just insanity

16:20 <efc> Fund the FPGA research :)

16:23 <efc> Yeah I should really retire this P4 sometime..

16:32 <Soul_keeper> i think either intel/amd could easily push their cpu's over 200watts default and mash anything out

16:32 <Soul_keeper> that's kinda spooky

16:32 <efc> Or build a monster die like that Nvida chip

16:32 <Soul_keeper> yeah

16:32 <efc> its like 4 times bigger than a penryn

16:33 <efc> The Hummer of CPUs we'll call it

16:33 <Soul_keeper> yeah performance and having the lead is more important than keeping power useage the same or lowering it

16:35 <Soul_keeper> even if everyone had water cooling it still wouldn't make sense

16:35 <efc> If we could get some philanthropist to fund building a SETI chip... just a few million..

16:36 <efc> On the cooling, I suspect if you get the temp way down it does dissipate less power. Not sure if it makes up for the juice going into cooling though.

16:37 <Soul_keeper> mostly comes down to clock speed, voltage, and process efficiency

16:38 <dizzie>

16:38 <Romulus> Title: Megahertz myth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

16:38 <dizzie> MHz isnt everything :)

16:38 <Soul_keeper> of course not

16:38 <Soul_keeper> the faster they switch the more heat is produced in most cases tho

16:39 <dizzie> The fewer pipes the faster

16:39 <Soul_keeper> yeah

16:39 <dizzie> But how do you really compare speed? Dhrystones?

16:39 <Soul_keeper> higher IPC  :)

16:39 <Soul_keeper> comes down to whatever programs/apps mean the most to you i suppose

16:40 <Soul_keeper> for me:  WCG and compiling code  mostly

16:40 <dizzie> True, but to determine which is faster, computer A and B, i guess numberchruncing is a good meassurement

16:43 <Soul_keeper> dizzie, what projects do you run ?

16:44 <dizzie> None atm, but used to run SAH LRH EAH and Predictor (i think)

16:44 <dizzie> Rosetta too, but hardly any work from there for ages

16:44 <Soul_keeper> so you don't use boinc ?

16:44 <dizzie> Not after i reinstalled the OS on all my pc's

16:44 <dizzie> which was last week or so

16:45 <Soul_keeper> ahh

16:45 <dizzie> This pc is a AMD 2400+ so no point in using opt'ed clients

16:45 <Soul_keeper> yeah that was a good cpu

16:46 <dizzie> And my laptop is a Centrino Duo 1.73, not so sure what client to use, Generic i think

16:46 <Soul_keeper> for seti ?

16:47 <dizzie> Not so sure about seti anymore, its often offline etc

16:47 <dizzie> But i like the Einstein project

16:47 <Soul_keeper>

16:47 <Romulus> Title: Crunch3rs BOINC page (at

16:47 <Soul_keeper> einstein runs great on amd systems

16:47 <dizzie> Its not a 64bit

16:47 <dizzie> Centrino Duo 2 is 64

16:48 <Soul_keeper> my athlon 2000+ with pc133 outperforms my P4 overclocked to 3.1GHz with ddr

16:48 <Soul_keeper> then get the 32

16:48 <Soul_keeper> i don't even know what os you're running

16:49 <dizzie> The P4 wasnt that great a CPU really, one of my friends PII outnumbered me with several things

16:49 <dizzie> On this i type from Debian 4

16:49 <Soul_keeper> ahh

16:49 <dizzie> On my laptop FreeBSD atm, soon either Gentoo or Slack

16:49 <Soul_keeper> so that core duo is dual core right ?

16:49 <dizzie> I dont want Debian as desktop os

16:50 <dizzie> Yep Duo core, not Duo 2

16:50 <Soul_keeper> yeah i like slack, gentoo would probably be my second choice

16:50 <Soul_keeper> just cat /proc/cpuinfo  and download the client that supports the latest sse for your cpu

16:50 <dizzie> I have issues with Gentoo, dhcp is fubar, i get IP 169.xx.xx.xx which is bogus :)

16:51 <Soul_keeper> i heard they fixed that ...

16:51 <dizzie> Been trying for hours, now i gave up and installs FreeBSD again

16:52 <dizzie> Maybe i should try slack, but its been ages since i used it

16:52 <Soul_keeper> write down your ip info next time and you won't fail

16:52 <dizzie> I cant use fixed ip as my isp has given my dynamic ip

16:52 <Soul_keeper> when you get online update dhcpcd

16:53 <Soul_keeper> it's been years since i've used dhcpc

16:53 <dizzie> they claim that the ip wont change until i turn off my adsl modem, which isnt the case hehe

16:54 <dizzie> static ip will cost me extra + i need to setup a router (either a box, or buy a piece of hardware)

16:54 <dizzie> $10 or so extra pr month

16:54 <Soul_keeper> i have like 8 ip's or more ... can't even remember how many i "rent"

16:54 <Soul_keeper> just use a hub, and setup each computer with an ip

16:55 <dizzie> If i could get rDNS it would be easier

16:55 <Soul_keeper> that's my prefered method atleast

16:56 <dizzie> My homelan runs thru a switch, but with dyn dns, each machine gets its own IP, i cant use 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x without a router

16:56 <dizzie> 87.56.xx.xx

16:58 <dizzie> Give me 3 reasons for trying Slack :)

16:59 <Soul_keeper> easiest installation process

16:59 <Soul_keeper> been around the longest

16:59 <Soul_keeper> works without issue

16:59 <CoderForLife> R.I.P. Tony Snow - done too soon

16:59 <dizzie> Slack is as old as redhat i think

16:59 <Soul_keeper> older

16:59 <Soul_keeper> older even than debian

16:59 <dizzie> 94 or older

17:00 <Soul_keeper>

17:00 <Romulus> <> (at

17:00 <dizzie> Debian is from 96 97 or so

17:00 <Soul_keeper> slackware summer of 93'

17:00 <Soul_keeper> redhat summer of 94'

17:00 <dizzie> I started using Linux in 94

17:01 <dizzie> Bought a box in a store, 10 cds and a huge book

17:01 <dizzie> O'reilley (sp?) i think

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17:01 <Soul_keeper> cool

17:01 <CoderForLife> wb PovAddict_

17:01 <Soul_keeper> i did basically the same thing, but 98' for me

17:02 <dizzie> Not using Windows much since

17:02 <Soul_keeper> i havn't used windows since january 2004

17:02 <dizzie> Except for photoshopping and such at my old job

17:02 <dizzie> I havent used it much since about the same

17:02 <dizzie> 2003 2004 something like that

17:04 <PovAddict_> wdsmia got tired of his ISP problems and sent them to me

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17:04 <Soul_keeper> i used to dual boot windows and red hat, but once win2k came out i stopped that

17:04 <CoderForLife> wdsmia : is thoughful in that way

17:05 <dizzie> Same, and when my friends asks me for help with their windows box i sarcastic gives them a ubuntu cd :) "Heres your fix" :p

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17:05 <CoderForLife> wb Rookie_69

17:06 <efc> moo

17:06 <Soul_keeper> i heard best buy is selling ubuntu now

17:06 <Rookie_69> .ooM

17:06 <dizzie> They ship it for free if you order it on

17:06 <Rookie_69> Hi, Don.

17:08 <PovAddict> my intertubes were down whole day

17:09 <dizzie> Blame guy next door

17:09 <PovAddict> nope

17:09 <PovAddict> guy next door is to blame for hammering the wall for the past 30 minutes

17:09 <PovAddict> and some drilling

17:10 <Rookie_69> I used to drift down the river on an intertube...

17:10 <dizzie> I can beat that, last night i could hear the couple next door, under me, and above me- having sex :p

17:10 <Soul_keeper> i can beat that ...

17:11 <Rookie_69> Aural sex... Listening to it.

17:11 <dizzie> Mhm

17:11 <dizzie> No :)

17:11 <Soul_keeper> my dad was having sex with some chick yesterday (he lives next door), and his friends came over and when he wasn't answering the door they decided to knock on my door, so i come out  and they are banging on the side of his house and he's  yelling  "go away!!"

17:12 <dizzie> Hehehe

17:12 <dizzie> Poor guy :)

17:12 <efc> Your dad is totally cool

17:12 <Soul_keeper> i don't think he's had any in months/years  so he wasn't about to answer the door for anything

17:13 <dizzie> My dad is 60, so i wonder if he.... nevermind :)

17:14 <Rookie_69> My dad must be in his seventies... I wonder if he still can... nevermind.

17:15 <Soul_keeper> it works untill you die i here ...

17:15 <Soul_keeper> and gravity makes it larger ...

17:16 <Rookie_69> A 90 year old guy goes to the doctor complaining about a white substance oozing from his penis...

17:16 <Rookie_69> The doctor asks him if he had sex lately...

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17:17 <Rookie_69> About a year ago, the old guy replies...

17:17 <Soul_keeper> lol

17:17 <Rookie_69> Congratulations, the doctor said... you just came.

17:17 * efc wonders how we got here

17:17 <PovAddict> he clearly has no premature ejaculation problems

17:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o wdsmia

17:18 <dizzie> lol

17:18 <Rookie_69> Oops... I said penis.

17:18 * Soul_keeper wanders off

17:18 <dizzie> wdsmia and his scripts :)

17:19 *** Rookie_69 was kicked by wdsmia (IIII can't HEAAAAAAAR you!)

17:19 *** wdsmia sets mode: -o wdsmia

17:20 <CoderForLife> speaking of pop-ups, I see a little rain shower was formed just to my west

17:20 <PovAddict> pop-ups? o.0

17:20 <dizzie> I cant remember when i last got kicked from a channel

17:20 <dizzie> Somewhere in 1998 or so :p

17:21 <dizzie> CoderForLife: its been raining for like a week here :)

17:21 <CoderForLife> we have one [family filter] of a storm here last Tuesday evening

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17:22 <CoderForLife> er had*

17:23 <CoderForLife> this little cell is building

17:23 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... I turned off autorejoin because I figured I didn't want to talk to any sumbeech yho'd kick me.

17:23 <CoderForLife>

17:23 <Romulus> <> (at

17:23 * Rookie_69 checks to see if spellcheck is on.

17:24 <CoderForLife> I live just north of the second "o" in Kenwood on that radar image

17:24 <Soul_keeper> so what state is that ?

17:24 <CoderForLife> Ohio

17:24 <CoderForLife> Cincinnati

17:24 <Soul_keeper> ahh

17:24 <Soul_keeper> give me some rain

17:25 <Soul_keeper> i want it to rain non-stop for a month straight

17:25 <CoderForLife> Kentucky is the bottom half

17:25 <dizzie> Rookie, autorejoin suck anyway, i never use it, but then again, i never get kicked either :)

17:25 <CoderForLife> south of the Ohio River that cuts across

17:25 <Soul_keeper> i've never been that far east

17:26 <Soul_keeper> chicago is about as far east as i've wandered

17:26 <CoderForLife> I used to live under the "e" in Cherry

17:26 <CoderForLife> it was too cramped under there

17:26 <Rookie_69> East??? I gotta go west just to get to Maine.

17:26 <dizzie> Guess i'm one of the few if not the only- europeans here :)

17:27 <Soul_keeper> i'm getting tired of california

17:27 <Soul_keeper> i want to move north

17:27 <dizzie> Come to Denmark :)

17:27 <CoderForLife> that's north... =)

17:27 <Rookie_69> Oh. I see the other Don's been around.

17:27 <Soul_keeper> i hear they pay you to go to college in denmark, but only if you were born there

17:27 <dizzie> North East :)

17:27 <CoderForLife> hmm?

17:27 * Rookie_69 waves at AFLACK.

17:28 <dizzie> No, everyone gets payed, no matter what origin(?) you are

17:28 * Rookie_69 waves at AFLAC too.

17:28 <CoderForLife> ah, early this morning

17:28 <Soul_keeper> cool

17:28 <CoderForLife> &seen AFLAC

17:28 <Romulus> CoderForLife: AFLAC was last seen in #boinc 11 hours, 38 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <AFLAC> Gone to start some upggrades, b back later guyz and galz

17:28 <dizzie> Do you have any higher edu's

17:29 <dizzie> BS, PhD etc ?

17:29 <Soul_keeper> no, i took a few semesters in a local community college, but failed and never went back

17:29 <Soul_keeper> they just wanted my money

17:29 * efc keeps thinking about doing some more learnin

17:29 <Rookie_69> ... School of Life...

17:30 <dizzie> Then you'll get like 1000-1200 USD a month studying here

17:30 <Soul_keeper> they start accepting application here on monday

17:30 <dizzie> Make that 2000-2400

17:30 <dizzie> Doh

17:30 <Soul_keeper> you have to pay like 1000 a semester here

17:30 <dizzie> Thats crazy

17:31 <dizzie> The state in DK pays you for studying

17:32 <Soul_keeper> the funny thing is i went to college, and i had to take all the classes i had already aced in high school

17:32 <Soul_keeper> they make you start at the lowest level

17:32 <Soul_keeper> so you gotta pay for them

17:32 <Soul_keeper> ohhh well

17:32 <dizzie> Last i was studying i had to take extra classes (you need 21+ hours a week as a minimum)

17:33 <dizzie> I am fluent in english and german, but i had to take english again

17:33 <dizzie> Got an A in english :p

17:33 <Soul_keeper> i took 2yrs of german in HS

17:34 <Soul_keeper> learned much more than the 3 or 4yrs of spanish i took

17:34 <dizzie> German is not that bad, its easier to understand than most people think

17:34 <Soul_keeper> yeah

17:34 <dizzie> Pronounced as its spelled more or less

17:34 <CoderForLife> I had 4 years of French between junior high and high school

17:35 <Soul_keeper> i tryed to take spanish in college, but i got an F

17:35 <CoderForLife> benje helps me remember it

17:35 <dizzie> F... ouch

17:35 <Soul_keeper> the teacher didn't like me, so i submitted his e-mail address to all the porn sites

17:35 <dizzie> Ahahahaha

17:36 <Soul_keeper> well after i had gotten the F ...

17:36 <DerMeister> spanish should be easy to read... even I who never took any spanish lessons and never was at spain can understand quite a lot of written spanish

17:36 <Rookie_69> $2000 a month is about what I make after being in the workforce for nearly 30 years... Talk about gross income.

17:36 <Soul_keeper> yeah i understand atleast 2/3rds of it,  the past tense and complex stuff is what gets me

17:36 <dizzie> I speak 4 languages fluently, and understand 4, so thats like 8 in total

17:37 <dizzie> 9 if typonese is a language too

17:37 <dizzie> :P

17:37 <DerMeister> hehe

17:38 <Soul_keeper> i think if you just drop someone off in any country that speaks another language, they'll pick it up after awhile, they'll have to

17:38 <Rookie_69> &seen surrealillusion

17:38 <Romulus> Rookie_69: surrealillusion was last seen in #boinc 17 hours, 18 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <surrealillusion> wow did anyone else's rac drop significantly with seti@home?

17:39 <Rookie_69> My nephew uses a handle something like that...

17:39 <dizzie> But Soul_keeper if you understand German, you can somewhat understand Scandinavian languages too

17:39 <Soul_keeper> well english is apparently a "germanic language" too

17:40 <dizzie> My english teacher hated me in HS

17:40 <Soul_keeper> mother = mutter   bruder = brother   sister/father/etc.  all sound the same

17:40 <dizzie> My english was better than hers :)

17:40 <Soul_keeper> our german teacher was also the head of the english department

17:41 <Rookie_69> English is a mixing-pot language... (I figure I'd get kicked again if I said Bastardized).

17:41 <Rookie_69> ... Melting-pot?

17:42 <Soul_keeper> yeah they keep messing with english,  adding mexican terms, and ebonics, etc.

17:42 <dizzie> I should be proud, Danish is the worlds hardest language to learn, and its my native language :)

17:42 <dizzie> Not to mention aussie slang :p

17:42 <Soul_keeper> i heard  icelandic  was the hardest

17:43 <DerMeister> Is it really that hard? I would think that finnish or any asian language is much harder to learn...

17:43 <dizzie> Not really, the "a ..." and "an ...." rule doesnt exist in danish

17:43 <dizzie> a apple an apple ? =)

17:43 <dizzie> The german Der Die Das rule is easier

17:44 <Soul_keeper> ahh

17:44 <Soul_keeper> maybe picking up some kind of small tribal language would be the hardest

17:44 <dizzie> Der Auto? Das Auto :p

17:45 <dizzie> Like native aussie?

17:45 <Rookie_69> Clicks and grunts...

17:45 <Soul_keeper> lol

17:45 <dizzie> Its deep :p

17:45 <Soul_keeper> like a native american language, african tribe language, or some kind of pacific islander language

17:46 <Soul_keeper> just not much to compare them to

17:46 <dizzie> Old nordic is deep :)

17:47 <dizzie> If my locale works: Look up "Bokmål" on wikipedia

17:47 <Soul_keeper> ha

17:47 <dizzie> it didnt work :p

17:47 <dizzie> Its a "A ring"

17:47 <dizzie> &aring; <- html

17:47 <Romulus> I don't know, dizzie.

17:47 <dizzie> Shuddup Romulus

17:48 <Soul_keeper> mandarin chinese would probably be somewhat of a challenge

17:48 <Rookie_69> Was it Huron Indians they used in WW2 for coded messages because the language was just a series of grunts, etc?

17:49 <Soul_keeper> lol no

17:49 <dizzie>

17:49 <Romulus> <> (at

17:49 <dizzie> :P

17:49 <Soul_keeper> navajo indians

17:50 <Soul_keeper> they used them because only a few hundred people could speak it in the world

17:50 <Rookie_69> K.

17:50 <Soul_keeper>    i guess they used a few other tribes as well

17:50 <Romulus> Title: Code talker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

17:53 <dizzie>

17:53 <dizzie> :P

17:53 <Romulus> Title: Hardest language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

17:55 <Rookie_69> Oh! You've made me start thinking... Stop it!

17:55 <dizzie> Soul_keeper: if i give you my ip, will you help me install gentoo ? :)

17:55 <Soul_keeper> i've never installed gentoo

17:56 <dizzie> Grub dont like my harddrive for some odd reason

17:56 <Soul_keeper> havn't tryed another distro since it came out

17:56 <Soul_keeper> i usually just install lilo to the MBR

17:57 <dizzie> Only distro i refuse to touch is Fedora

17:57 <Soul_keeper> but if you are dual booting they might not work ..

17:57 <dizzie> One OS pr machine

17:57 <PovAddict> dizzie: I saw the a-ring (å)

17:57 <dizzie> Dualsbooting is for wintendo slaves

17:57 <Soul_keeper> lilo never failed me, so when grub came out i never even wanted to try it

17:58 <dizzie> PovAddict: wasnt sure if my locales worked

17:58 <dizzie> UTF-8 is evil :)

17:58 <Soul_keeper> ha

17:58 <dizzie> ISO8859-15 :p

17:58 <Soul_keeper> you could always use some nordic one ...

17:59 <Rookie_69> It seems to me I had to install an old OS one time then upgrade to get some Fedora stuff to install properly...

17:59 <dizzie> cp865

17:59 <Soul_keeper> i heard sourcemage was a good distro, but never tryed it

18:00 <Soul_keeper> apparently all the commands are themed around "casting a spell" or "dispelling" one

18:00 <dizzie> I dont like Fedora, they charge money for stuff (like mm codecs) and sure i want to have a system with no mp3/ogg/wma support?

18:00 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:01 <Soul_keeper> well red hat is a publically traded company, they want the $$$

18:02 <Soul_keeper> gotta keep people like alan cox  payed

18:03 <dizzie> Like the enterprice version of redhat... omg thats expensive

18:03 <dizzie> oracle db, sure its good to have, but..

18:03 <dizzie> i like MySQL :)

18:03 <Soul_keeper> yeah i save my money for the hardware, the only software i might pay for would be a video game

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18:09 <Soul_keeper> i gtg ttyl

18:09 <dizzie> ttfn

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18:45 <dizzie> Night all *waves*

18:51 * Rookie_69 wonders how big those waves are in Denmark.

19:13 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

19:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 76.9F / 24.9C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Cooler. Low in the mid 50s. West wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday - Sunny. High in the lower 80s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.; Sunday Night - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 50s. West wind 5 to 10 mph shifting to (1 more message)

19:13 <wdsmia> &more

19:13 <Romulus> wdsmia: the southwest after midnight.;

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19:23 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:23 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 66.2°F / 19.0°C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1019.9hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 3.6mph / 5.8km/h | Updated: 8:23 PM ADT; Tonight - A few clouds. Low 13C(55F).; Sunday - Sunny. Wind becoming south 30 km/h (19 mph) late in the morning. High 27C(81F) except 20C(68F) along the coast. UV index 7 or high. Sunday night clear. Increasing (1 more message)

19:24 <Rookie_69> &more

19:24 <Romulus> Rookie_69: cloudiness overnight. Fog patches overnight. Wind south 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 15C(59F).; Monday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. High 22C(72F).;

19:25 <Rookie_69> Showers monday? That sux.

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19:59 <Rookie_69> Welcome back...

20:07 <xcamel> re-hi

20:07 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

20:07 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

20:07 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

20:10 <xcamel> we have some hay done now..

20:10 <Rookie_69> Oh..Jay... Alpaca gestation period? It came up in conversation today.

20:11 <xcamel> just short of a year..

20:11 <Rookie_69> K. Thanks.

20:11 <xcamel> 345-355 days

20:11 <xcamel> np

20:12 <Rookie_69> I'll pass it on tomorrow.

20:13 <Rookie_69> Nobody will remember or care, but I will.

20:19 <xcamel> uh-huh

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20:21 <Rookie_69> I think the conversation started with elephants...

20:24 <Rookie_69> The daughter/granddaughter sitting at the table is very pregnant and gestation periods came up.

20:25 <Rookie_69> ... my buddy's missus' daughter...

20:26 <Rookie_69> Grandparents are down from New Brunswick so calving must be soon.

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20:27 <Rookie_69> WB.

20:34 <xcamel> now if the storms hold off for a while tomorrow...

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20:34 <xcamel> I'll get the rest of that hay baled

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20:34 <Rookie_69> No storms here please.

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20:34 <Rookie_69> Rain in the forecast though.

20:35 <xcamel> storms later in the pm

20:36 <xcamel> got everything raked and ready to bale, and did one field after dinner

20:37 <Rookie_69> Wet hay can stink.

20:42 <xcamel> ya think?

20:42 <Rookie_69> So I've heard.

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20:44 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

20:45 <wdsmia> re-*lo Jay

20:46 <CoderForLife> relo=the dividend you pay when you can find no one in town to take the job

20:51 <Rookie_69> YAW is also the local airbase... Most everything has double meanings.

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20:52 <Rookie_69> Long time no see.

20:53 <xcamel> off to watch a dumb SciFi movie..

20:53 <Rookie_69> Is there any other kind?

20:54 <wdsmia> &wx McMurdo

20:54 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: -16°F / -27°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 29.06in / 984hPa | Conditions: Light Snow | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 34mph / 56km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM NZST; Overcast. High:-22 F. / -30 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:-29 F. / -34 C.; Overcast. High:-2 F. / -19 C.; Overcast. Low:-20 F. / -29 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:-14 F. / -26 C.; Overcast. Low:-27 F. / -33 C.;

20:55 <CoderForLife> off to bed with me - gn boincfolk

20:55 <wdsmia> cya

20:55 <Rookie_69> &wx alery

20:55 <wdsmia> &nn

20:55 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

20:55 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

20:55 <Rookie_69> &wx alert

20:55 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 37°F / 3°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 12mph / 18km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM MDT; Partly Cloudy. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:35 F. / 2 C.; Chance of Rain. High:37 F. / 3 C.; Chance of Freezing Rain. Low:33 F. / 1 C.; Chance of Rain. High:39 F. / 4 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:35 F. / 2 (1 more message)

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21:08 <Rookie_69> Oh... Clock says one hour twelve past bedtime... NN.

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21:38 <efc> &math convert 27000000 light years to miles

21:38 <Romulus> efc: Error: light is not a valid unit.

21:38 <efc> &math convert 27000000 lightyears to miles

21:38 <Romulus> efc: 158722885075957415936

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22:29 * Soul_keeper looks at his brand new Q9450

22:30 <Soul_keeper> box isn't even open yet :)

22:30 <Soul_keeper> i gotta go "play"

22:32 <Soul_keeper> wow the retail intel heatsink is now half the size

22:34 <efc> Oooo

22:34 <efc> Thats a quad?

22:37 <PovAddict> &boincerr -184

22:37 <Romulus> PovAddict: HTTP error

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22:44 <Soul_keeper> bbl

22:44 <Soul_keeper> i'm gonna measure the power drawl differences

22:44 <Soul_keeper> gotta upgrade my bios, and stuff too

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23:00 <MTughan> Wrong key...

23:00 <MTughan> Well, that was an interesting two weeks...

23:00 <PovAddict> MTughan!

23:01 <PovAddict> wb

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23:01 <MTughan> 'lo Pov

23:02 <Didactylos> Hi, MTughan

23:02 <MTughan> 'lo

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23:02 <MTughan> Don't worry, I'll be crunching for on WCG soon enough again.

23:03 <PovAddict> :D

23:03 <KathrynM> MT!

23:03 <MTughan> 'lo Kathy

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