IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-07-13

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02:24 <Soul_keeper> anyone here own a 12MB cache c2d quad ?

02:26 <efc> It blowin your doors off yet?

02:27 <Soul_keeper> dmesg and cpuinfo  are only showing 6MB

02:27 <Soul_keeper> could be an issue with the kernel not yet "knowing" this new of a cpu

02:28 <efc> CPUz if you can boot windows

02:28 <Soul_keeper> no

02:28 <Soul_keeper> the bios post screen shows 12, and it says 12 on the cpu

02:29 <Soul_keeper> i do have it overclocked, perhaps that could be at fault, i suppose i can try lowering it :(

02:29 <Soul_keeper> i suspect it's a matter of not having the cpuid in the kernel yet tho

02:30 <Soul_keeper> the cpu only came out like 2 months ago

02:30 <efc> yeah i never heard of cache wigging out

02:33 <Soul_keeper> system seems somewhat sluggish, gotta go mess with things

02:34 <Soul_keeper> with 4 threads of wcg running my browser and stuff are much more sluggish than on the c2d dual

02:34 <Soul_keeper> bbl

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02:44 <dizzie> Friends has no sense of humor.. I call him at 7:30am om a sunday, and asks if he is awake :p

02:44 <dizzie> Pfft :)

02:44 <dizzie> s/om/on

02:53 <efc> Justifiable Homicide

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03:18 <Soul_keeper> this is officially the worst pc upgrade i've ever done

03:19 <Soul_keeper> either i have a defective cpu, or the motherboard maker's bios needs a cpu microcode update

03:19 <Soul_keeper> the computer is nonresponsive

03:20 <Soul_keeper> sluggish and stuff

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03:40 <Soul_keeper> horrible nightmare

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03:44 <dizzie> b0rked CPU?

03:49 <Soul_keeper> possibly

03:49 <Soul_keeper> found a bios version on their ftp server that's not linked on their website, gonna try that ...

03:49 <dizzie> that or memoryfail

03:49 <Soul_keeper> no it's either bios or cpu

03:49 <Soul_keeper> bbs

03:50 <dizzie> Got any systemtest tools kinda thin

03:50 <dizzie> +g

03:50 <Soul_keeper> don't need those

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04:54 <dizzie> Got it fixed Soul_keeper ?

05:03 <CoderForLife> plink mail3.gipl.net

05:19 <CoderForLife> brb  brrrrreakfast

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06:18 <CoderForLife> hmm

06:37 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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07:32 <CoderForLife> b

07:44 <dizzie> I don't get it, Rosetta needs 99mb to run (it failed to run) and i got like 500GB freespace...

07:44 <dizzie> Stupid bint...

07:45 <CoderForLife> morning dizzie

07:46 <dizzie> Afternoon CoderForLife :)

07:50 <dizzie> Running boinc on 4 cores is fun :)

07:50 <dizzie> Compared to this old AMD i am chatting from that is

07:50 <CoderForLife> yeah, I've been doing similar (2 Xeons hypethreaded) for a few years now

07:51 <CoderForLife> hyper*

07:52 <dizzie> SAH and EAH will run, rest fails... guess i should look for new projects then

07:52 <dizzie> Rosetta was down most of the time anyway

08:11 <xcamel> 'lo

08:12 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

08:12 <CoderForLife> just looking at the APOD - fascinating, but a repeat

08:25 <xcamel> a cloudburst this am ended my plans for the day.

08:26 <xcamel> damn weather.

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08:30 <KathrynM> how in the world can I *not* owe the water company any money?

08:30 <KathrynM> at least I think this is my water bill

08:31 <CoderForLife> your roof drains are leaking into the water system, causing the meter to run backwards?

08:31 <KathrynM> I have no idea.

08:31 <KathrynM> And I can't read the bill to figure it out.

08:31 <xcamel> ugh

08:31 <CoderForLife> sorry about your cloudburst xcamel

08:32 <CoderForLife> my altered gutters seem to have worked in yetserday's downpour

08:33 <xcamel> it's that bit about having 3 fields of hay down ready to bale...

08:33 <CoderForLife> yeo

08:33 <CoderForLife> er yep

08:33 <CoderForLife> lol

08:35 <xcamel> this is depressing

08:35 <CoderForLife> what?

08:35 <CoderForLife> the hay?

08:36 <xcamel> likely ruined

08:36 <CoderForLife> it's probably not good to bale wet hay

08:36 <CoderForLife> they'd cook themselves away in short order, I imagine

08:36 <CoderForLife> but I'm no farmer/rancher

08:37 <xcamel> please note that tractor fuel is also 4.89/gal

08:37 <CoderForLife> ah

08:37 <KathrynM> gas prices everywhere makes me glad I don't drive right now.

08:37 <CoderForLife> I saw on the news where farmers were getting fuel stolen in the middle of the night

08:37 <xcamel> and those bales are worth about $75 each now

08:40 <CoderForLife> the guy who came yesterday to look at the landslide, who has a competitive product to Allan Block said whoever told me I needed a retaining wall is nuts

08:41 <KathrynM> what do you need?

08:42 <CoderForLife> he wants to not build any wall, 'de-water' the entire hillside with drain lines dug into the hill all around, move disposal dirt onto the neighbor's property and into the watershed of the protected scenic river it feeds - all without a written plan

08:42 <CoderForLife> sure...

08:42 <xcamel> funny how they come out of the woodwork...

08:43 <CoderForLife> I invited him as a wall alternative to the Allan Block design

08:44 <CoderForLife> he wants to tear down all the trees as well

08:44 <CoderForLife> I'm thinking - not

08:44 <KathrynM> uh, isn't tearing down the trees a bad idea?

08:44 <KathrynM> like aren't they helping hold the soil?

08:45 <CoderForLife> yes, of course

08:46 <KathrynM> so I'm not going crazy.

08:46 <CoderForLife> I am...

08:46 <KathrynM> Oh well.  I'm going to collapse.

08:46 <KathrynM> I'm sunburned from the little walking around I did today.

08:46 <CoderForLife> I've been trying to approach something methodically that is manical in nature

08:46 <KathrynM> oh crap...  forgot to hang up my laundry.  I bet it's wrinkled as hell :/

08:47 <KathrynM> I'm an idiot.

08:47 <KathrynM> That's the story of my life CoderForLife

08:47 <xcamel> naaa..

08:47 <CoderForLife> if I could only get some fscking bids

08:47 <KathrynM> manical is a tame word for it (as you saw in the video)

08:47 <KathrynM> oh well, later gators

08:47 <CoderForLife> cya KathrynM

08:50 <CoderForLife> lots of loons want the job is the "big boys" are too expensive

08:50 <CoderForLife> the biggest boy was supposed to get he his bid last Friday

08:56 <xcamel> they all just dragging you along?

09:05 <CoderForLife> Some are small fry..  The big ones I can't tell what's going on

09:05 <CoderForLife> They are "very interested", but no bids pop out

09:06 <CoderForLife> promised dates for delivering bids go by without a peep

09:07 <CoderForLife> I'm so frustrated I could chew nails

09:09 * CoderForLife updates the warbird web site with delayed update requests

09:12 <xcamel> I understand frustrated... about $150 in fuel and 3 days labor just went down the drain..

09:12 <xcamel> I hate having to spin it all back out and watch it turn into a slimy mess.

09:13 <xcamel> these am showers were **not** in the forecast...

09:13 <CoderForLife> yeah - what a waste of assets and sweat

09:18 <CoderForLife> Stephen's up - going to talk to him - bbiab

09:21 <xcamel> have fun..

09:22 <xcamel> &wx 12074

09:22 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 64.2F / 17.9C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers this morning...then partly sunny with chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Showers likely with (1 more message)

09:22 <xcamel> &more

09:22 <Romulus> xcamel: chance of thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Humid with lows in the mid 60s. South winds 5 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy with chance of showers in the morning...then partly sunny in the afternoon. Highs around 80. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

09:23 <xcamel> just damn

09:33 <CoderForLife> back

09:33 <CoderForLife> yup - ungood forecast

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09:45 <CoderForLife> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25656492/

09:45 <Romulus> Title: Alaska volcano blasts ash 9 miles high - Environment- msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com)

09:51 <CoderForLife> I guess I shouldn't chew nails, after all  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25639397/

09:51 <Romulus> Title: Docs pull screws, nails from metal-eating man - Mental health- msnbc.com (at www.msnbc.msn.com)

09:53 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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10:07 <xcamel> Okmok Volcano is very old, and quite large..

10:07 <CoderForLife> um-hmm

10:09 <CoderForLife> I still look in on Augustine from time to time

10:10 <CoderForLife> image is black ATM  http://www.avo.alaska.edu/webcam/webcam.php?cam=Augustine%20-%20island

10:10 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6yl8xe> (at www.avo.alaska.edu)

10:10 <CoderForLife> 5:08am

10:10 <CoderForLife> sunrise in about a half hour

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10:32 <xcamel> lol >> "Balack Hussein Obeyme"

10:33 <xcamel> the ultimate inoculation from truth.

10:39 <CoderForLife> obeyme - hah

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10:55 <MTughan> rofl... Apparently in 1892, Samoa observed two July 4ths!

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11:27 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

11:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 73.2F / 22.9C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 29.52in / 999.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Becoming partly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 50s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. West winds 5 to 10 (1 more message)

11:27 <CoderForLife> &more

11:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mph.;

11:27 <CoderForLife> mmph 2 u 2. Rommie

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11:43 <CoderForLife> off 2 family gathering - bbl

12:03 <xcamel> well... the finished bales put away and covered

12:17 <xcamel> have fun..

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13:49 <Soul_keeper> Intel robbed me

13:50 <xcamel> join the club..

13:50 <Soul_keeper> i've either got a bios issue, or a defective cpu here

13:51 <xcamel> what is it not doing?

13:51 <Soul_keeper> every since i got it it's been sluggish

13:51 <Soul_keeper> like takes me 5min to scroll down a website

13:51 <xcamel> what does cpu-z say?

13:52 <Soul_keeper> i don't use windows

13:52 <Soul_keeper> but i can pastebin my /proc/cpuinfo  if you like

13:52 <xcamel> iirc, that reports what it should be, not what it is.

13:53 <dizzie> Soul_keeper: use grep to trim it

13:53 <xcamel> bbiab..

13:53 <dizzie> cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz (or model)

13:53 <Soul_keeper> http://linuxsociety.pastebin.org/51047

13:53 <Romulus> Title: linuxsociety private pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at linuxsociety.pastebin.org)

13:53 <dizzie> sec

13:54 <Soul_keeper> well not sure what you'd be looking for

13:54 <Soul_keeper> it's only reporting 6MB of cache instead of 12

13:54 <Soul_keeper> but i've seen screenshots of people's  windows things saying   2x6MB

13:55 <Soul_keeper> i think they just need a bios update, i e-mailed the motherboard maker

13:55 <Soul_keeper> the board says right on the box it support 1333FSB and quads

13:55 <dizzie> 9450 comes in 4 6 and 8mb's ?

13:55 <Soul_keeper> 12

13:55 <Soul_keeper> 6 and 12

13:56 <Soul_keeper> i got the 12  cost me 300 bucks

13:56 <dizzie> Any "funny" stuff in dmesg ?

13:57 <Soul_keeper> lemme check again

13:58 <desti> it's nothing wrong there

13:58 <desti> it shows how many level 2 cache is accesable for each core

13:59 <dizzie> It could be: Payed for a 12mb but was a 6mb in the box? (maybe some jerk at the shop swapped the CPU's from 2 diff boxes)

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13:59 <dizzie> I would go back and proof its a 6mb, and ask how or even why it only shows as 6mb

13:59 <Soul_keeper> it says 12MB right on the chip

14:00 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/digcam19/IMG_0355.JPG

14:00 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6s2lz7> (at sterlingdesktops.com)

14:00 <dizzie> And its not a kernel issue ?

14:00 <Soul_keeper> i tryed 2 different kernels, and atleast 4 different configs

14:01 <dizzie> *ponders*

14:01 <dizzie> What else but SMP is needed in a kernel ?

14:02 <Soul_keeper> pretty much nothing,  everything that worked on my c2d e4300  should work on this

14:02 <Soul_keeper> the only odd display i am getting in the dmesg is a few of these   system 00:08: iomem range 0xe0000000-0xefffffff could not be reserved         but that's a pci/acpi  thing ....

14:02 <MTughan> Are there any tasks taking up lots of CPU time?

14:03 <dizzie> Not sure, but... you sure 'cpuinfo' is up to date?

14:03 <Soul_keeper> MTughan,  if i suspend boinc and have nothing running, it is still slow

14:03 <Soul_keeper> dizzie, yes

14:03 <MTughan> After that, I mean.

14:03 <MTughan> And what's your memory usage?

14:03 <dizzie> I would be polite tomorrow and take cpu + proof back to the store

14:03 <dizzie> And ask "how and why"

14:04 <dizzie> Drag you pc with you if you have to (i once did that hehe)

14:04 <Soul_keeper> MTughan, only using like 15%

14:04 <Soul_keeper> for 300 bucks things should just work

14:05 <Soul_keeper> i suspect it's very likely it's a bios/motherboard compatibility issue

14:05 <MTughan> Reminds me of when I first built this computer... Went through I think it was 3 sets of dual-channel RAM that had one stick defective. 4th was the charm.

14:05 <Soul_keeper> my board is V1.0

14:05 <dizzie> 300?? a 2.4 Quad is like 400-420 here

14:05 <Soul_keeper> yeah it was on sell

14:05 <dizzie> Ahh

14:06 <dizzie> Maybe its broken/b0rked ?

14:06 <Soul_keeper> i've had defective intel cpu's before ...

14:06 <Soul_keeper> wouldn't surprise me

14:06 <dizzie> Stress it and see if it will fail

14:06 <Soul_keeper> it's been running boinc all night

14:06 <Soul_keeper> stable as can be

14:07 <Soul_keeper> just sluggish and barely responsive

14:07 <dizzie> Could be a switch on your motherboard or a setting in bios

14:07 <Soul_keeper> almost feels like it's throttled itself to 500MHz

14:07 <Soul_keeper> yeah i upgraded the bios twice, and played with settings for a few hours

14:08 <dizzie> And your motherboard?

14:08 <Soul_keeper> no jumpers on it cept clr cmos

14:08 <dizzie> Tried different bios'

14:08 <Soul_keeper> yes

14:08 <Soul_keeper> the latest

14:09 <Soul_keeper> even found a later version hidden on the manufacturer's ftp server

14:09 <dizzie> *shrug* i donno then

14:09 <dizzie> Sorry

14:09 <Soul_keeper> this cpu has a package date of like 2 months ago

14:10 <Soul_keeper> i guess i jumped the gun, shoulda waited for them to work out the bugs

14:10 <dizzie> Maybe they can explain it to you tomorrow at the shop

14:10 <dizzie> They better..

14:10 <Soul_keeper> i did the same thing when inte went to .09nm   bought a p4e the first couple weeks it came out, and it was DOA

14:11 <Soul_keeper> second one worked tho

14:11 <Soul_keeper> the shop is open right now

14:11 <dizzie> Call them

14:11 <dizzie> Or visit them

14:11 <dizzie> I would

14:11 <Soul_keeper> yeah they'll exchange it if i go there

14:11 <Soul_keeper> they get a lot of returns

14:11 <dizzie> I would go back with proof that its faulty

14:11 <Soul_keeper> the biggest electronics store in my city

14:12 <dizzie> What kernel version btw

14:12 <Soul_keeper> 2.6.25.10

14:13 <dizzie> i use .18 :)

14:13 <Soul_keeper> was using 2.6.24.4  but after the issues weren't going away i tryed this one

14:14 <Soul_keeper> i'm gonna try some other stuff

14:14 <dizzie> Okay

14:14 <dizzie> I'll go back to my gentoo fun :)

14:14 <Soul_keeper> appears to just be the desktop, if i do preemptive kernel it might clear it up

14:14 <dizzie> Try a depend and start from scratch

14:15 <dizzie> if that wont work, go back to the shop

14:15 <Soul_keeper> problem is, if it's a bios issue then the next cpu will do the same

14:15 <dizzie> Is it a big shop?

14:16 <Soul_keeper> yes

14:16 <dizzie> I would call and ask if i could bring the pc along so they could test more than one cpu

14:16 <Soul_keeper> the return line has people backed up out the door

14:16 <dizzie> Wow

14:16 <Soul_keeper> ok bbl

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14:23 <BB_Laptop> great primegrid is down now

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14:57 <jackygrahamez__> alright, can you honestly tell me what you think of BOINC Marley T-Shirts?

14:57 <jackygrahamez__> http://boinc.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop

14:58 <jackygrahamez__> I was thinking they were really cool or really aweful

14:59 <jackygrahamez__> The black ones are a bit expensive

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15:20 <Soul_keeper> bla

15:20 <jackygrahamez__> <(

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15:23 <Soul_keeper> i should just take this cpu back and get my money

15:24 <jackygrahamez__> :'(

15:27 <dizzie> Mhm... i hate compiling kernels :o

15:27 <PovAddict> are you using all your CPUs?

15:28 <PovAddict> dual core = make -j2

15:28 <dizzie> j3

15:28 <dizzie> # cpus + 1

15:28 <PovAddict> good

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15:29 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: do you have /sys/devices/system/cpu/

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15:33 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, yes

15:34 <Soul_keeper> yes all cores are enabled and working

15:34 <Soul_keeper> the system is just slow like a p133

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15:47 <surrealillusion> my Vista Home Premium box is slow like a P133

15:47 <surrealillusion> haha

15:48 <Soul_keeper> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128344    that board might fix my problems

15:48 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5jwy9g> (at www.newegg.com)

15:48 <Soul_keeper> but then i'm into this for $500 bucks

15:48 <Soul_keeper> it just never ends

15:49 <surrealillusion> i still have an ASUS P5E-VM HDMI to get a CPU for

15:49 <surrealillusion> but if I get a Q6600

15:49 <surrealillusion> i'll want to get an antec Fusion v2 case

15:49 <surrealillusion> so i turn it into the media centre pc and seti cruncher

15:49 <surrealillusion> and that'll be my 3rd q6600

15:49 <surrealillusion> ...

15:49 <Soul_keeper> my other box is an  asus p5l-mx   but it don't support quads ...

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16:31 <Soul_keeper> installed my old cpu, everything is fast again ...

16:31 <efc3> Did you try running less BOINC threads?

16:31 <PovAddict> efc3: it's slow with BOINC off

16:33 <efc3> Hmm. Wonder if cache is turned off?

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16:39 <Soul_keeper> i'm taking the cpu back

16:39 <Soul_keeper> the only question is whether i should exchange it or just get my money and run

16:41 <efc3> Were you able to get a tool that you trust check it out and see if everything was on?

16:42 <Soul_keeper> yeah  /proc/cpuinfo  and dmesg

16:42 <PovAddict> that's not a tool to test CPUs...

16:42 <efc3> They give bus speeds and all that?

16:42 <Soul_keeper> also  tryed  memtest86  and it confirms that half the cache is disabled

16:42 <PovAddict> use one of those torture tests (prime95?)

16:43 <Soul_keeper> i'm done with it, it shoulda worked

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16:43 <Soul_keeper> the first P4 i bought was also defective, second one they sent me after RMA worked ...  seems like an intel thing

16:43 <Soul_keeper> never had a DOA amd chip

16:44 <efc3> Seems like its probably a BIOS or improbably, a kernel thing

16:44 <Soul_keeper> and i've owned twice as many amd chips in my time

16:45 <Soul_keeper> if it's a bios issue i have no recourse

16:45 <Soul_keeper> i'd have to pay 150 bucks for a new motherboard

16:45 <Soul_keeper> i wasn't prepared to make this an entire system upgrade

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16:47 <efc3> Any windows hard drives you could boot just to run CPUZ for a minute?

16:50 <Soul_keeper> no

16:50 <Soul_keeper> i'd rather smash my pc than do that

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16:51 <dizzie> Wintendo, spawn of satan :p

16:52 <PovAddict> wintendo indeed; main use is videogames

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16:52 <dizzie> Wine exists for that :)

16:52 <Soul_keeper> i'm looking into updating the microcode

16:52 <Soul_keeper> that could fix it ...

16:52 <PovAddict> try it and see

16:53 <PovAddict> afaik you can't break it by updating the microcode

16:53 <PovAddict> because it's lost on poweroff

16:53 <dizzie> The Slack installer is nice, it kernelpanics :o

16:53 <PovAddict> (the OS re-sends the microcode on every boot)

16:55 <dizzie> I have weird friends, friend just called me asking if i WANT his old Asus motherboard, less than 7 days old.... Mhnm i only need a Quadcore CPU then :)

16:55 <surrealillusion> nice

16:56 <dizzie> Guess i can kick this AMD 2400+ out then ;o

17:00 <Soul_keeper> lol

17:00 <Soul_keeper> bbl

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17:00 <dizzie> This is new... i boot, it kernelpanics :o

17:00 <dizzie> From CD... not harddrive

17:06 <xcamel> wowza.. a storm with a bow echo headed right this way..

17:08 <efc3> Shields Up

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17:40 <xcamel> looks nasty

17:47 <lsEee> who else here has a quad core with linux ?

17:49 <efc3> Soul did unless he took it back in the last 30 minutes

17:49 <efc3> he couldn't get the cache working right

17:49 <surrealillusion> lsEee: I do

17:49 <surrealillusion> i run a Q6600 G0 with Gentoo

17:50 <lsEee> i'm bout to burn a gentoo livecd

17:50 <lsEee> so i can double check the issue

17:50 <lsEee> downloading at 1MB/s

17:50 <surrealillusion> what issue?

17:50 * lsEee == Soul_keeper

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18:00 <lsEee> there is no food in my house, guess the responsible thing to do would be take this Q9450 back and buy some food

18:06 <surrealillusion> ahh

18:06 <surrealillusion> damn you

18:06 <surrealillusion> i was gonna order one this month

18:06 <surrealillusion> but i have a feeling the price will drop again

18:06 <surrealillusion> on the q9450 down to sub 300

18:07 <lsEee> in 2 months they'll probably drop under 200

18:08 <surrealillusion> yeah

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18:08 <surrealillusion> which means i should be holding out to buy a 3rd quad core haha

18:08 <lsEee> amd quads will be our in 2-3 months

18:08 <lsEee> 45nm

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18:24 <Rookie_69> Hmm... two quad cores added to my inventory would probably more than double my output... Just need that winning lottery ticket.

18:30 <Rookie_69> ... but then I would maybe move out west to Eastern Canada to be closer to family and would no longer be the loner left out on the east coast...

18:30 <CoderForLife> back

18:30 <Rookie_69> front

18:30 <CoderForLife> no, xcamel has the front

18:31 <Rookie_69> bacon?

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18:31 <CoderForLife> hand, actually

18:31 <Rookie_69> ouch.

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18:32 * CoderForLife fires up the weathernator

18:32 <lsEee> my problem is a slackware issue it appears

18:33 <Rookie_69> Ah. That must be my tomorrow's rain.

18:33 <CoderForLife> that's a nasty bow, xcamel

18:33 <lsEee> gentoo livecd works fine ...

18:34 <CoderForLife> cams just look wet

18:35 <CoderForLife> unless that's red ball lightning in cam 1

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18:41 <CoderForLife> re-wb-again-once more-as-always wdsmia

18:42 * Rookie_69 thinks wdsmia should go wring out his modem.

18:43 * CoderForLife thinks he should wring the neck of his ISP

18:44 <Rookie_69> Itst-bitsy spider? No, that's IBS...

18:45 <Rookie_69> Stupid fingers...

18:45 <Rookie_69> Itsy...

18:45 <CoderForLife> sure - blame it on the bio-technology....

18:46 <Rookie_69> Interim Solution to the Problem.

18:46 <CoderForLife> It Sorta 'Putes

18:46 <CoderForLife> It Sometimes Pauses

18:47 <CoderForLife> It Scrambles Pings

18:47 <Rookie_69> It's Seldom Proper.

18:47 <Rookie_69> I Shouldn't Pay.

18:47 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:48 <CoderForLife> Incorrect Subset of Packets

18:48 <CoderForLife> lol  good one Rookie_69

18:48 <CoderForLife> Infuriating Submarine Provider

18:49 * Rookie_69 wonders if a haircut is the best way to get epoxy out of his hair.

18:51 <CoderForLife> did you glue yourself to the boat *again*?

18:52 * Rookie_69 sidesteps the question.

18:53 <Rookie_69> I didn't get any on my hat though...

18:53 <Rookie_69> ... which was on my head.

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18:54 <CoderForLife> it's a profound mystery

18:54 <CoderForLife> I'd suggest removing the hat when you get the haircut

18:55 <Rookie_69> At this rate, we'll have the boat ready to launch about november...

18:59 * PovAddict goes get flamed

19:00 * Rookie_69 thinks PovAddict can stay here and get flamed.

19:01 <KathrynM> I seee the insanity has risen to a new high here.

19:04 <PovAddict> I just know if I go to ##c++ and ask if istream::readsome reads enough data to cause streambuf::underflow to be called, I'll first get answers like "why the f*** do you need to know that? you must be doing something wrong if you need to know that"

19:04 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

19:04 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 78°F / 26°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Chance of Rain. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:73 F. / 23 C.; Chance of Rain. High:87 F. / 31 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:73 F. / 23 (1 more message)

19:04 <KathrynM> &more

19:04 <Romulus> KathrynM: C.;

19:04 <PovAddict> stupid bot bug

19:04 <KathrynM> thanks rommie, that was very helpful :/

19:04 <PovAddict> "(1 more message)" is longer than "C.;"

19:05 <KathrynM> lol

19:06 <Rookie_69> .... but important...

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19:09 <Rookie_69> I would have thought that a buffer underflow woudn't be as bad as a buffer overflow...

19:10 <Rookie_69> I thought I spelled that wrong, but it's just dinner stuck to my screen.

19:10 <PovAddict> in this case, it means "buffer empty; please refill"

19:11 <Rookie_69> Oh. I did spell it wrong.

19:12 <lsEee> any 12MB cache owners here ?

19:12 <Rookie_69> Insert data here.

19:13 <PovAddict> similarly, overflow() is to do "buffer full, write it to disk and empty it"

19:14 <Rookie_69> 12 megabucks of cash? Not me!

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19:17 <Rookie_69> My bestest box has 2 MB.

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19:26 <KathrynM> http://www.learn-to-draw.com/

19:26 <Romulus> Title: Learn to draw.com, learn how to draw online! (at www.learn-to-draw.com)

19:26 <KathrynM> hahahaha, I wish I could draw as well as those "child" drawings.

19:28 <KathrynM> for fun, I should take a picture of the white board after I've been teaching Kindgergarten math.

19:28 <Rookie_69> I can't draw a straight line with a ruler.

19:30 <KathrynM> I can't draw, but I pretend I can...

19:30 <KathrynM> my latest

19:30 <KathrynM> http://dark2light.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/sunrise.jpg

19:31 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5rfkey> (at dark2light.files.wordpress.com)

19:32 <Rookie_69> When I type a straight-line, it often gets missed too.

19:32 <KathrynM> I don't worry about it.  OUr printer at work prints lopsided.

19:32 <Rookie_69> Medeuse?

19:32 <Rookie_69> See?

19:33 <KathrynM> this is sad...

19:33 <KathrynM> Do not lick your fingers to remove dust unless your pastels set clearly says "Non-Toxic" on the box. Always use a damp washcloth for cleaning your hands. Don't touch your mouth with pastel on your fingers.

19:33 <PovAddict> KathrynM: you're lucky freelarry isn't here

19:33 <KathrynM> it goes to prove just how stupid the human race can be

19:33 <KathrynM> why PovAddict ?

19:33 <PovAddict> you said the w-word

19:33 * KathrynM hides in a corner

19:34 <PovAddict> freelarry has a soap and isn't afraid to use it

19:34 <KathrynM> lol

19:34 <Rookie_69> Lol. Local coffee cup warning: contents may be hot.

19:34 <PovAddict> they better be

19:34 <KathrynM> ya think?

19:35 <KathrynM> unless it's iced coffee

19:35 * KathrynM bought a small purse so it wouldn't get disorganized and messy

19:35 * KathrynM 's purse is still disorganized and messy

19:35 <Rookie_69> Oh... sunrise... not a jellyfish.

19:36 <KathrynM> lol

19:36 <PovAddict> a few places now put those yellow signs saying "floor may be slippery" while cleaning the floor

19:36 <PovAddict> it's McDonalds who started... wonder why?

19:36 <KathrynM> those are standard in the US

19:36 <KathrynM> McDonalds got sued

19:36 <PovAddict> exactly, McDonalds comes from US :)

19:37 <Rookie_69> Doh't tell that to an Irishman...

19:37 <Rookie_69> ... don't...

19:39 <CoderForLife> back

19:39 <Rookie_69> forth.

19:39 <Didactylos> What's wrong with a sign the floor's wet?

19:40 <Didactylos> It's not exactly something you can see.

19:40 <KathrynM> nothing wrong with the wet floor sign

19:40 <KathrynM> it's the whole coffe might be hot thing that is stupid

19:40 <Didactylos> Indeed.

19:40 <Rookie_69> Nothing, but stating that a soapy floor may be slippery is redundant.

19:41 <CoderForLife> It's from the Department of Redundancies Department

19:41 <Didactylos> I think the signs here just have an infographic showing someone falling over.

19:41 <CoderForLife> Once again, we are not as enlightened

19:42 <CoderForLife> we have to have an infographic of a spanish-speaker falling over

19:42 <Rookie_69> I think all cars should have a warning sticker... Warning... Driving may be hazardous to your sanity.

19:42 <KathrynM> ol

19:42 <Didactylos> No, your signs are the same. They just say "caution: wet floor"

19:42 <KathrynM> lol

19:42 <Didactylos> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://images.aiesupply.com/images/db/RUB_6112-77.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.aiesupply.com/product.php%3FItem_ID%3D25710&h=350&w=350&sz=11&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=1EWFVse42bZOHM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=120&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwet%2Bfloor%2Bsign%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

19:42 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5m22e5> (at images.google.com)

19:42 <KathrynM> in like 6 languages

19:42 <CoderForLife> yes, and they also say in in Spanish

19:43 <CoderForLife> it in*

19:44 <CoderForLife> obviously an economy model not in compliance with latest court decisions

19:44 <Rookie_69> They just put the ... infomatic?... on the wash bucket somet.imes

19:44 <Rookie_69> Stupid fingers...

19:44 <CoderForLife> traffic cones, orange barrels, blinking lights...

19:44 <CoderForLife> police tape...

19:46 <CoderForLife> warning sirens...

19:46 <CoderForLife> klaxons...

19:46 <Rookie_69> I used to work in a place that had Peligro written on all the nastiest pieces of equipment... I think it was smuggled up from Mexico.

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19:51 <Rookie_69> I think there's some law here that states that there must be two french words for every english word on the warning label, but Peligro and a picture of flying fingers is enough for the Spanish.

19:52 <CoderForLife> it's due to the unfortunate events of 1066

19:53 <CoderForLife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings

19:53 <Romulus> Title: Battle of Hastings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

19:54 <Didactylos> IDGI

19:54 <CoderForLife> you, of all people, should

19:56 <CoderForLife> well - nuf 4 me 4 2 nite

19:56 <CoderForLife> cya folks

19:56 <Rookie_69> Bye, Don Coder.

19:57 <CoderForLife> au revoir

19:57 <KathrynM> nighty night CoderForLife

19:59 <KathrynM> off to get ready for a new w&@% week.

19:59 <KathrynM> later gators

19:59 <Rookie_69> Arrive dirty... or whatever the Italians say.

20:16 <Rookie_69> I saw the name surrealillusion and thought of my nephew out west in Eastern Canada, but then thought maybe he went by the name paranoiddelusion... Close but no cookie.

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21:01 <surrealillusion> hmm

21:06 <efc> &last olds

21:06 <Romulus> efc: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)

21:06 <efc> &seen olds

21:06 <Romulus> efc: I have not seen olds.

21:06 <efc> &seen freelarry

21:06 <Romulus> efc: freelarry was last seen in #boinc 4 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, 10 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <freelarry> nooo - drink a lot of water this am

21:07 <efc> Wonder where they've been off to

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