IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-07-16

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00:02 <nickuwo> so I got the percentage thing working... but the time to completion is way off... is that a function of fpops_est?

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03:47 <quail> &currency convert 399 usd aud

03:47 <Romulus> quail: 399.00 usd = 408.06 aud

04:07 <efc> moo

04:07 <CoderForLife> moo

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04:13 <quail> moo

04:30 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:30 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 66.5F / 19.2C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Fog | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 90. South winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 60s. Light and variable winds.; Thursday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 90. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

04:31 <efc> hmm, ebay is going to start calling me to make sure I'm me? Yuck.

04:31 <CoderForLife> they're predicting 93F tomorrow

04:32 <CoderForLife> with the humidity, it should feel like 98F

04:32 <CoderForLife> verrryyy nice =P

04:33 <efc> Its nice now

04:34 <CoderForLife> it's breakfast now =)  brb

05:15 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

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06:48 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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07:01 * KathrynM notices TheGasGiant

07:02 <TheGasGiant> d' didn't work!

07:02 <TheGasGiant> Hi Kathyrn :)

07:02 <KathrynM> Hiya

07:03 <TheGasGiant> still in korea?

07:03 <KathrynM> yup

07:03 <KathrynM> another 11 months

07:03 <TheGasGiant> all going well?

07:03 <KathrynM> pretty much

07:03 <KathrynM>

07:03 <Romulus> <> (at

07:03 <KathrynM> Gotta love crazy computer people

07:04 <TheGasGiant> are they getting on the China bandwagon with the olympics round the corner?

07:04 <KathrynM> haven't really paid much attention

07:04 <TheGasGiant> it's starting to gear up here....

07:04 <hawmps> 'lo Paul

07:05 <hawmps> LTNS

07:05 * TheGasGiant is still waiting for the web site to load....

07:05 <TheGasGiant> heya Doug...too long!

07:05 <hawmps> um... nope..

07:05 <TheGasGiant> d'oh....Jay

07:06 * TheGasGiant was in another world

07:06 <TheGasGiant> ...Gotta love crazy computer people

07:06 <dizzie> Hello all :)

07:06 <hawmps> southbound end of a northbound planet..

07:06 <TheGasGiant> heya Michael

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07:07 <dizzie> Hi Paul :)

07:07 <TheGasGiant> lol

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07:09 <TheGasGiant> got me a Q9450 on order...due any day

07:11 <dizzie> Back in a bit :)

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07:12 <hawmps> one of the funniest JibJab's yet...

07:13 <hawmps>

07:13 <Romulus> Title: JibJab - Funny eCards, Birthday Cards, and More at JibJab (at

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08:05 <yangvnc> KathrynM: interesting article

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08:24 <KathrynM> Tomorrow is Thursday and it's downhill from there.

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09:26 <Soul_keeper> lol for you, some of us have to work weekends :(

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10:21 <hawmps> some of us are never not working...

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11:50 <yang> I am curious if the boinc keeps running in the background even when i close boincmgr (boinc-core in being managed by user boinc)

11:52 <MTughan> If installed as a service, yes. Not sure about other installations. Windows, right?

11:52 <yang> no in debian

11:52 <MTughan> Hmm, not sure about the Linux versions...

11:52 <yang> I dont see any log in boincmgr if i run it after a few hours, that the process would run

11:54 <MTughan> Closing down the manager here does not quit the CC, but I have my machine start the CC up on startup, not when the Manager is started.

11:54 <MTughan> In fact, just had a POEM WU complete while the manager was shut down.

11:55 <MTughan> This is v5.10.45, BTW.

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11:55 <yang> i see, well my profile comes from website, I dont run local preferences

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11:55 <MTughan> That shouldn't affect anything.

11:56 <yang> maybe it cannot run becouse my computer isn't really IDLe its processing other tasks

11:56 <yang> i have it set "work only when idle"

11:58 <yang> I am also curious about these task which are being calculated for climateprediction....I dont see any results on the website, but in boincmgr i see that there have been only about 1% processed in one it will take many days before the task completed by itself fully

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13:12 <quail_linux> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.25-2-486 |  VIA Samuel 2 533.376 MHz | Bogomips: 1068.53 | Mem: 221/243M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 36.00G Free: 33.02G | Procs: 45 | Uptime: 1 day 1 hr 50 mins 45 secs | Load: 0.29 0.07 0.02  | Screen: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 6a) | eth0: In: 4.87M Out: 0.36M

13:20 <quail> wow my embedded system :-P

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13:30 <Guiri> I heard about a project that networks people who have radio telescopes. Any word on that? I havne't been able to find it

13:30 <MTughan> The one that comes to mind is Seti@Home, where a program analyzes data from radio telescopes.

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13:43 <elsimio> hey hi guys

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13:46 <vostorga> &whatis aix

13:46 <Romulus> vostorga: Error: No factoid matches that key.

13:46 <MTughan> It's OS, not CPU platform.

13:46 <vostorga> &whatis powerpc-ibm

13:46 <Romulus> vostorga: Error: No factoid matches that key.

13:47 <MTughan> &whatis Linux

13:47 <Romulus> MTughan: "Linux" could be

13:47 <elsimio> how install boinc in a aix?

13:48 <MTughan> Check and follow the links.

13:48 <Romulus> Title: DownloadOther - BOINC - Trac (at

13:48 <MTughan> Sorry, wrong page...

13:48 <MTughan> Wait, that is it. Nvm.

13:48 <elsimio> nice

13:48 <elsimio>

13:48 <Romulus> <> (at

13:48 <MTughan> Those are clients and project apps compiled by other people.

13:49 <MTughan> This was the one I was originally thinking of though:

13:49 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at

13:49 <MTughan> Those ones are made by BOINC.

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14:08 <vostorga> I got this error in the AIX  boinc port from

14:08 <vostorga> 2008-07-16 12:07:43 [SETI@home] Message from server: platform 'powerpc-ibm-aix5.' not found

14:08 <vostorga> 2008-07-16 12:07:43 [SETI@home] Deferring communication for 1 min 0 sec

14:08 <vostorga> 2008-07-16 12:07:43 [SETI@home] Reason: no work from projec

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14:13 <vostorga> which may be the issue? I am able to register the machine, and to do some png files downloads, but the server keeps telling me "no work from project"

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17:02 <CoderForLife> evening folks

17:19 <CoderForLife> bbiab

17:36 <PovAddict> yang: climateprediction tasks take several MONTHS

17:37 <PovAddict> vostorga: you need an AIX SETI port too and install it manually

17:37 <PovAddict> vostorga: SETI server doesn't have an aix application to download automatically

17:38 <vostorga> PovAddict, I have installed both the boinc and the seti port

17:39 <PovAddict> does BOINC say "app_info.xml found, using anonymous platform" on startup?

17:39 <vostorga> PovAddict, this is the full log

17:39 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - aix seti output log - post number 1073744 (at

17:41 <vostorga> and boinc doesnt say that...

17:41 <PovAddict> then you didn't install the SETI app correctly

17:43 <PovAddict> I just deleted your paste because your account key is on it (people can login as you with that number)

17:44 <vostorga> damn, thats right

17:45 <vostorga> I forgot about that

17:45 <vostorga> :/

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17:48 <vostorga> I think the text Message from server: platform 'powerpc-ibm-aix5.' not found is the hint of the error

17:48 <PovAddict> seti doesn't have such platform

17:48 <vostorga> because it must say powerpc-ibm-aix.

17:48 <PovAddict> that one won't work either

17:48 <PovAddict> if you install the app correctly, the client will report itself as 'anonymous'

17:49 <PovAddict> and the server won't send you any application (you already have it)

17:49 <PovAddict> as it is now, the server tells you "I don't have any application for that platform"

17:51 <vostorga> but that is weird, because the .xml files where created by the app the first time I ran boinc_client -attach_project

17:51 <vostorga> so the text 'powerpc-ibm-aix.5' was put by the app itself

17:51 <PovAddict> no, app_info.xml either comes with the SETI port you downloaded ,or you have to create it yourself

17:53 <vostorga> well, let me check out the app_info.xml file

18:02 <dizzie> Afternoon all :)

18:07 <wdsmia> re-hi

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18:15 <vostorga> you were so right PovAddict the app_info file had a typo, and now seti is running fine

18:15 <PovAddict> typo?

18:15 <vostorga> 2008-07-16 16:07:13 [SETI@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform

18:15 <vostorga> 2008-07-16 16:10:08 [SETI@home] Starting task 31mr08ab.13474.25021.9.8.208_2 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

18:15 <vostorga> :)

18:16 <vostorga> PovAddict, are you from Argentina?

18:16 <PovAddict> yes

18:18 <vostorga> fine

18:31 <xcamel> 'lo

18:32 <xcamel> spork >>

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18:55 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

18:55 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 85.4F / 29.7C | Humidity: 48% | Pressure: 29.41in / 995.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 59 to 68. Light winds.; Thursday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 80 to 85 in the western valleys to 89 to 94 near the (1 more message)

19:06 <xcamel> hit 90 here today..

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19:26 <MTughan> ABC's up.

19:28 <dizzie> So is my feet :)

19:28 <MTughan> At least on my ISP. And there is a new news item saying the problems with the DNS should be fixed.

19:28 <MTughan> dizzie: Sounds nice...

19:28 <dizzie> SAH still having issues?

19:32 <xcamel> yea..

19:34 <MTughan> All computers read running on their status page as of 4 minutes ago.

19:35 <xcamel> about 50 abc units sent back..

19:36 <dizzie> Refresh my memory please, what is ABC about again?

19:37 <PovAddict> maths

19:37 <dizzie> Ah

19:37 <MTughan> The ABC conjuncture in math.

19:37 <dizzie> Not for my AMD then :)

19:37 <MTughan> conjecture*

19:37 <MTughan>

19:37 <Romulus> Title: ABC@home (at

19:37 <PovAddict> well it's like 3x faster on 64-bit than on 32-bit

19:37 <MTughan> They have a paragraph on what it's about there.

19:38 <dizzie> PovAddict: its a AMD 2400+ And i dont want it to choke to death :)

19:38 <PovAddict> hmm I wonder

19:38 <dizzie> Hehe

19:38 <PovAddict> a program with very good memory locality would heat a CPU more?

19:39 <PovAddict> since the CPU will not need to be waiting for RAM (as most fast CPUs often are)

19:39 <dizzie> Do some 24bit Raytracing simultanious, like 8000x8000, that would cause some heat :)

19:39 <PovAddict> if all of the needed data fits in cache, the CPU would be actually busy all the time

19:39 <MTughan> My CPU is averaging 85C right now.

19:39 <MTughan> &math convert 85 C F

19:39 <Romulus> MTughan: 185.0

19:39 <dizzie> Do some LZX crunching

19:40 <MTughan> Granted, this is a Core Duo in a laptop.

19:40 <dizzie> Mine is 36 :)

19:40 <dizzie> Duo aswell

19:40 <dizzie> Laptop

19:40 <MTughan> My P4 averages about 56 with upgraded cooling.

19:40 <MTughan> Single core.

19:40 <dizzie> Running CPU's @ 800mhz

19:41 <dizzie> Nice and quiet laptop :)

19:41 <dizzie> Silce as is

19:41 <MTughan> Well, that could explain some stuff... Core Duo's 2.0GHz, P4's 2.8GHz.

19:41 <dizzie> Silence too

19:41 <MTughan> I bet you can't beat the Asus Eee though... Celeron 900MHz, passive cooling I think.

19:41 <MTughan> In the model we have anyway.

19:42 <dizzie> Well i had my Airbook at 32c at some point

19:42 <MTughan> Airbook?

19:42 <dizzie> Macbook Air

19:42 <PovAddict>

19:42 <Romulus> Title: Status - IPhone Linux (at

19:42 <MTughan> Ah... You have an Air?

19:42 <dizzie> Yep

19:42 <dizzie> Slim and light

19:42 <MTughan> Cool...

19:43 <dizzie> Running FreeBSD on it :)

19:43 <dizzie> OS X sux hehe

19:43 <MTughan> I still like the better performance, optical drive, and cheaper price of the Macbooks, even the 1st gen that I have.

19:43 <dizzie> Indeed

19:43 <dizzie> I got this on sale

19:43 <MTughan> OS X does have one thing though: one of the easiest graphical development programs around.

19:43 <dizzie> 50%

19:43 <xcamel> ditto on the osx

19:44 <MTughan> Watch out, zombie would take offense... :P

19:44 <PovAddict> his problem? :)

19:44 <dizzie> OS X has its own issues, some they even cant explain in the shop i bought it, they just told me to reinstall and dont upgrade to .4

19:44 <dizzie> Nice eh? "Reinstall from CD and dont upgrade..."

19:45 <MTughan> Well now you tell me... Did the update to Leopard .4 a few days ago.

19:45 <dizzie> Moron hehe

19:45 <dizzie> .4 is evil, ask xcamel :)

19:46 <dizzie> FreeBSD 7 runs well on it though :)

19:46 <dizzie> No memory issues :)

19:46 <MTughan> EFI or BIOS boot?

19:46 <dizzie> EFI

19:46 <dizzie> No wait

19:46 <dizzie> BIOS boot sorry

19:46 <MTughan> It can do EFI now?

19:46 <MTughan> Ah, okay...

19:47 <dizzie> Sorry, PPC Gentoo can do EFI

19:47 <MTughan> This ain't a PPC.

19:47 <dizzie> Gentoo smells though

19:47 <MTughan> Fedora for me.

19:47 <dizzie> Fedora, for some reason i dont like that distro

19:47 <MTughan> Red Hat?

19:47 <dizzie> No

19:47 <PovAddict> I'm on Kubuntu, lacking time to try something else :)

19:48 <dizzie> I have an issue with Fedora. I dont want to pay some idiot

19:48 <zombie67> I have many OSes.  I prefer OSX

19:48 <dizzie> mm codecs costs money

19:48 <MTughan> I think what actually grabbed me at the time was that I liked the GNOME interface, but didn't like the bright oranges of Ubuntu.

19:48 <dizzie> zombie67: try upgrade to .4 with more than 2GB mem installed

19:49 <MTughan> dizzie: I didn't pay anything to any stinkin' companies for codecs.

19:49 <dizzie> Then you will hate it hehe

19:49 <MTughan> Oh, I have 2GB... :)

19:49 <MTughan> What does it do?

19:49 * PovAddict would use OSX if he had a mac

19:49 <zombie67> I already am at 10.5.4, w/ 4gb.

19:49 <PovAddict> oh wait

19:49 <dizzie> More than 2048mb will not be used

19:49 * PovAddict goes check prices

19:49 <zombie67> not true

19:49 <dizzie> No wait, its 4096mb sorry

19:49 <MTughan> PovAddict: Mac mini would set you back ~$600CDN.

19:50 <PovAddict> &currency convert 600 CAD ARS

19:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: 600.00 cad = 1816.08 ars

19:50 <MTughan> Laptop's start around $1100-$1200.

19:50 <dizzie> &currence covert 1816 ars dkk

19:50 <Romulus> Wish I knew.

19:50 <dizzie> &currence convert 1816 ars dkk

19:50 <Romulus> I have no idea, dizzie.

19:50 <dizzie> !

19:50 <dizzie> &currency convert 1816 ars dkk

19:50 <Romulus> dizzie: 1816.00 ars = 2825.70 dkk

19:51 <dizzie> *cough*

19:51 <dizzie> Expensive :)

19:51 <MTughan> That's a direct conversion. What currency is DKK?

19:51 <dizzie> &currency convert 1200 dkk ars

19:51 <Romulus> dizzie: 1200.00 dkk = 771.24 ars

19:51 <dizzie> Danish :)

19:51 <PovAddict> dizzie: that's what you paid? I'd afford that :)

19:51 <PovAddict> &currency convert 1200 dkk cad

19:51 <Romulus> PovAddict: 1200.00 dkk = 254.76 cad

19:52 <dizzie> PovAddict: my price for a Quadcore 2.4

19:52 <MTughan> For the CPU alone?

19:52 <dizzie> Aye

19:52 <MTughan> Sounds about right.

19:52 <dizzie> 12mb

19:52 <dizzie> :p

19:52 <MTughan> So the 9450?

19:53 <dizzie> Like i know, i just said "Quad 2.4 12mb cache"

19:53 <MTughan> Huh... The Mac mini in the Denmark store starts at DKK3995.

19:53 <Soul_keeper> who is talking about my cpu ?

19:53 <dizzie> <----

19:53 <dizzie> That'll be me

19:54 <dizzie> MTughan: people laugh at macminis in DKK

19:54 <dizzie> They are concidered as toycomputers :)

19:54 <MTughan> Well, the Mac mini is the cheapest computer they have, because they don't come with any accessories other than a power brick.

19:54 <MTughan> AKA, the power supply.

19:55 <dizzie> I have bricked 2 so far

19:55 <MTughan> How?

19:55 <Romulus> hmm... How is breakfast, MTughan

19:55 <dizzie> Firmware :)

19:55 <MTughan>

19:55 <Soul_keeper> the company that makes the linux distro on the Eee pc's bought the company that made the "Lindows" distro

19:55 <PovAddict> why were you fscking with the firmware?

19:55 <MTughan> Soul_keeper: Xandros?

19:56 <Soul_keeper> yeah

19:56 <dizzie> I wanted it to boot MorphOS, so i had to

19:56 <MTughan> That ain't Apple's fault.

19:56 <dizzie> Now they look good as a flowerpothider :)

19:57 <dizzie> Good grief

19:57 <dizzie> Abba on the radio :(

19:59 <dizzie> Amazing ipv6 works on my server :p

20:00 <dizzie> PovAddict: Got nmap ?

20:00 <PovAddict> no

20:00 <dizzie> Got any other portscan program ?

20:00 <PovAddict> netcat? :P

20:00 <MTughan>

20:01 <MTughan> IP scanner, but you can define the ports.

20:01 <dizzie> I dont want you to destroy my server, just check it :)

20:01 <PovAddict> dizzie: want to portscan yourself? try ShieldsUP

20:01 <dizzie> No i want someone outside DKK to do it :)

20:01 <PovAddict> ShieldsUP server is in US probably

20:01 <MTughan> I can do it.

20:01 * dizzie calls FBI

20:02 <dizzie> ;o

20:02 <PovAddict>

20:02 <Romulus> Title: GRC | ShieldsUP! Internet Vulnerability Profiling GRC | Gibson Research Corporation Home Page (at

20:02 <dizzie> Sweet, thanks :)

20:02 <PovAddict> click Proceed, then "All service ports"

20:02 <dizzie> Portsnap died :(

20:03 <dizzie> FreeBSD ports :) You know /usr/ports hehe

20:03 <PovAddict> no I don't really know what you're talking about

20:04 <dizzie> You know FreeBSD uses ports right? as in apt-get on debian

20:04 <dizzie> Portsnap upgrades the ports tree (as a cvsup thing)

20:06 <Soul_keeper> i heard about that a few years ago, never tryed it tho

20:08 <dizzie> Soul_keeper: i even tried to install slack, it refused to coorp with my hardware :)

20:10 <Soul_keeper> what hardware ?

20:10 <Soul_keeper> slack 12.1 ?

20:10 <dizzie> Yep

20:10 <dizzie> Boot CD makes a kernel panic

20:11 <Soul_keeper> what kernel did you try loading ?

20:11 <Soul_keeper> what hardware do you have ?

20:11 <dizzie> hugesmp

20:11 <Soul_keeper> yeah i'd need to know what hardware you have, and exactely what it said right before the kernel panic

20:12 <Soul_keeper> works fine on the 12 or so systems i've run slack on

20:12 <dizzie> Cant remember off my head, but AMD2400+ NForce chipset on mb. 3com nic

20:13 <Soul_keeper> i've had slack on that exact same hardware, but that was a few years ago

20:14 <dizzie> Installing FreeBSD now, so i gave up hehe

20:14 <Soul_keeper>   that site needs to be updated, they don't have bare.i  anymore, but that was what i always used

20:14 <Romulus> Title: The Slackware Linux Project: Installation Help (at

20:15 <dizzie> i got the usb image

20:15 <Soul_keeper> cool

20:15 <dizzie> I love using 'dd' :)

20:21 <Soul_keeper> dizzie, did you try  hugesmp.s  or huge.s  ?

20:23 <dizzie> First one

20:23 <Soul_keeper> the second would probably have worked then

20:23 <Soul_keeper> probably had to do with apic/rtc or whatever

20:24 <dizzie> Maybe

20:24 <dizzie> Anyway...

20:24 <dizzie> Thu Jul 17 02:24:53 CEST 2008

20:24 <dizzie> Goodnight :)

20:28 * KathrynM leaves for another fun filled day at w@*$

20:28 <KathrynM> Y'all have been chatty and I didn't want to interrupt your fun.  :)

20:31 <Soul_keeper> w00t !!!

20:31 <xcamel> poot?

20:31 <zombie67> que?

20:33 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

20:33 <Romulus> wdsmia: Error: Connection refused.

20:35 <wdsmia> story of my life

20:44 <xcamel> that's a new one..

20:44 <xcamel> &wx 12074

20:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 72.5F / 22.5C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy this evening...then clearing. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows around 60. Southwest winds up to 5 mph this evening becoming light.; Thursday - Patchy fog in the morning. Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Light winds (1 more message)

20:44 <xcamel> &wx 50319

20:44 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 82.2F / 27.9C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Isolated showers in the evening. Low in the upper 60s. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Chance of showers 20 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High around 90. South wind 10 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy (1 more message)

20:44 <PovAddict> temporary server problem

20:45 <xcamel> all fixed

20:52 <wdsmia> Its been one of those days 3 hours in the dentist chair... root canal that had problems

20:55 <xcamel> yikes..

20:57 <wdsmia> good news looks like I will have a few days off sick leave... they wont allow me to work in my job while using heavy narcotics lol

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21:56 <xcamel> laterz..

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23:45 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 380 grams to pounds

23:45 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 0.837756596303

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23:50 <efc> moo

23:51 <Soul_keeper> good work

23:53 <FreeLarry58> howdy Soul_keeper efc and all other fellow lurkers

23:54 * FreeLarry58 is getting real close to usining shotgun to install os on new machine

23:55 <Soul_keeper> so it appears israel is now trading live hezbollah prisoners for dead israeli soldiers ...

23:58 * FreeLarry58 wonders if live means all bits left on 'em

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