IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-07-18

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00:02 <nickuwo> welp,I fried my HD

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00:53 <efc> you know, I think hyperthreading actually does help a lot..

00:58 <efc> I don't really understand how, but its pretty clear

01:01 <Soul_keeper> yes

01:03 <Soul_keeper> like 30-40% increase, can't offer a full 50% increase like a true native second core tho

01:03 <efc> second core should be 100% increase

01:03 <efc> it suggests that s@h is stalled much of the time

01:03 <Soul_keeper> doubling is 50%   right ?

01:03 <efc> 100%

01:03 <efc> 100% increase over 100 is 200

01:04 <efc> but 200 is 200% of 100

01:04 <Soul_keeper> ok then  60-85%  would probably be the number

01:04 <MTughan> Now now, stop confusing the poor soul. :P

01:04 <efc> "percent increase" is additive, "percent" is multiplicative

01:04 <efc> Well, nobody at a newspaper ever got it either, so don't feel too bad

01:05 <MTughan> lol

01:05 <efc> In the same article they'll state a 10%, 1%, and 0.1% budget increase, for example

01:05 <Soul_keeper> figures

01:05 <efc> so s@h must be stuck on some sort of cache stall most of the time..

01:06 <Soul_keeper> things go all whacko on HT cpu's if you mess with process priorities   performance levels drop substantially in my experience

01:06 <efc> if it was really keeping the ALUs pegged, the hyperthreading wouldn't be able to help much

01:06 <efc> I'm on win2k too, it doesn't know anything special about HT

01:07 <Soul_keeper> my P4 takes like 8-10hrs  to do two wcg wu

01:08 <Soul_keeper> compared to my  c2q   which can pump out  4 in 2-4hrs  it seems

01:08 <efc> RAC is increased by about 30%. Lots of other variables I haven't isolated but still nice.

01:09 <efc> or maybe it has a lot of pipeline stalls

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01:10 <Soul_keeper> well they share certain parts of the pipeline between the cores

01:10 <efc> this is a northwood. My prescott p4 doesn't have HT for whatever reason

01:10 <MTughan> Mine does.

01:10 <Soul_keeper> must be the celeron version of the prescott ...

01:12 <Soul_keeper> when i say like 80% increase, i'm mostly thinking of stuff like   compiling code, or running a optimized multithreaded fpu intensive program

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01:14 <vostorga> my aix box takes 16 hours to make 1 wu

01:14 <vostorga> something must be wrong

01:15 <MTughan> vostorga: Probably either a slower processor or not an optimized application.

01:16 <vostorga> I think must be the second option, because its a power5 with 4GB ram

01:16 <MTughan> PPC G5? Or is this something else entirely?

01:20 <efc> s@h WUs do vary quite a bit, the high angle range ones take 30 min, others take about 3 hours

01:22 <vostorga> MTughan, power 5 is a microprocessor developed by ibm ,  especially for ibm eservers p5

01:22 <MTughan> The PPC is by IBM too.

01:22 <efc> BoincView shows my HT P4 having two CPUs both getting ~1.21 gflops. My non-HT p4 same clock is getting one 1.4 gflops.

01:23 <vostorga> MTughan, yes but ppc is intended for mac computers and also made with the collaboration of apple and motorola

01:24 <MTughan> Not exclusively for Mac. I believe you could by the separately, and now they're used in the PS3. But yes, they were consumer processors.

01:24 <efc> PPC/power is pretty confusing, i develop for one at work, but its hard to figure out what it lines up with the desktops

01:26 <vostorga> well, I can say ppc and power are some sort of siblings

01:27 <efc> yeah ours is somewhat comparable to the G4

01:27 <MTughan> Was just about to suggest that I could make you an app, because I have a PPC compiler. But it's for Mac and makes Mach-O binaries as a result.

01:27 <MTughan> Not for *nix or *BSD.

01:27 <efc> Mac G4 is not quite the same as PPC G4 ..

01:28 <efc> 7455, I think

01:29 <vostorga> MTughan, I can give a try compiling your app , but I have only seen gcc-compiled apps for aix (seti)

01:30 <MTughan> No, I meant I have a compiler. And you wouldn't want the application I have right now unless you want to crunch AI or TSP.

01:30 <MTughan> TSP doesn't seem to be generating any work right now anyway, and AI's sources are already freely available.

01:30 <vostorga> oh :/

01:31 <MTughan> If you want to take a shot at AI... http://www.intelligencerealm.com/aisystem/

01:31 <Romulus> Title: Artificial Intelligence System (at www.intelligencerealm.com)

01:32 <vostorga> that is a very intersting project

01:33 <MTughan> Still in beta, but rapidly moving. If you don't want to have to keep recompiling an application, I'd recommend not going for it right now.

01:33 <MTughan> Reminds me, I should stop any work from AI until I update my application...

01:33 <vostorga> ok, I'll have that in mind

01:33 <efc> August 7th, 1997. AI BOINC becomes self aware. It begins to award credits at a geometric rate.

01:34 <MTughan> lol...

01:35 <vostorga> well, need to got some sleep, later guys

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01:36 <efc> Night V

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02:18 <Soul_keeper> yo

02:18 <efc> moo

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02:31 <Soul_keeper> CRUNCH CRUNCH CRUNCH ?

02:31 <Soul_keeper> what's that sound ?

02:31 <Romulus> It has been said that that sound is the sound of the pressurized packaging for this amber muscle relaxant being opened, Soul_keeper

02:31 <Didactylos> Cornflakes?

02:32 <Soul_keeper> lol just had me a bowl

02:32 <Soul_keeper> Didactylos,  what cpu's do you own ?

02:33 <Soul_keeper> do you own an amd quad core ?

02:33 <Didactylos> No.

02:34 <Didactylos> I honestly couldn't say what I have. Hardware is just something that makes a noise on my desk.

02:34 <Soul_keeper> ok

02:34 <Didactylos> A big black box arrived courtesy of my brother yesterday.

02:34 <Didactylos> Now I have two :-)

02:34 <Soul_keeper> nice

02:35 <Soul_keeper> what projects do you run ?

02:35 <Didactylos> WCG. Exclusively.

02:35 <Soul_keeper> nice

02:35 <Soul_keeper> got a boincstats link ?

02:36 <Soul_keeper> http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=792353

02:36 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5mf76t> (at boincstats.com)

02:36 <Didactylos> http://boincstats.com/search/all_projects.php?teamid=83be4829c1097114d8cd66393314b901

02:36 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/559vbl> (at boincstats.com)

02:38 <Soul_keeper> what's your username ?

02:38 <Didactylos> Didactylos.

02:38 <Didactylos> My personal stats are nothing special.

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03:28 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

03:28 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 69.4F / 20.8C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.67in / 1004.6hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 60s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Friday - Sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. South winds around 5 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 60s. South winds around 5 mph.;

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04:35 <CoderForLife> &dict egress

04:35 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Egress \E*gress"\, v. i. To go out; to depart; to leave. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Egress \E"gress\, n. [L. egressus, fr. egredi to go out; e out + gradi to go. See {Grade}.] 1. The act of going out or leaving, or the power to leave; departure. [1913 Webster] Embarred from all egress and regress. --Holland. [1913 Webster] Gates of burning adamant, (5 more messages)

04:38 <KathrynM> Weekend!!!!

04:41 <CoderForLife> hey Kate

04:41 <KathrynM> hiya CoderForLife

04:56 <dizzie> Morning all :)

04:56 <KathrynM> hi dizzie

04:56 <dizzie> Hello :)

04:59 <dizzie> EAH has issues? I got some error about only allowed to send 7 units pr day

05:00 <KathrynM> link to the host?

05:00 <dizzie> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/

05:00 <Romulus> Title: Einstein@Home (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

05:01 <KathrynM> host link, not project link

05:01 <dizzie> Can you refraise then, i dont understand

05:01 <KathrynM> a link to the page of results for the computer in progress

05:01 <KathrynM> computer with problems

05:02 <KathrynM> sorry, brain fried

05:02 <dizzie> Sec then

05:02 <dizzie> Same hehe, need coffee :)

05:03 <dizzie> Not sure if its this your looking for

05:03 <dizzie> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=1488014

05:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5hxwk8> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

05:04 <dizzie> Compute error x 9

05:04 <KathrynM> that computer is trashing work like crazy

05:04 <dizzie> Thats nice :)

05:04 <KathrynM> process exited with code 8

05:04 <dizzie> EAH works, so i dont get it

05:04 <KathrynM> give me a few to search the boards.

05:05 <dizzie> Can it be i need to install some stuff for be able to do science stuff? Think i head someone mention that a while ago

05:05 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:05 <dizzie> As in, i am not using Windows

05:05 <KathrynM> What OS?

05:05 <Romulus> What OS are you on, KathrynM

05:05 <KathrynM> shut up Romulus

05:05 <dizzie> FreeBSD

05:06 <KathrynM> CPU support SSE/

05:06 <KathrynM> ?

05:06 <dizzie> AMD 2400+

05:06 <dizzie> No

05:06 <dizzie> mmx 3dnow

05:06 <KathrynM> http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/forum_thread.php?id=6518&nowrap=true#81339

05:06 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6xyrqm> (at einstein.phys.uwm.edu)

05:07 <dizzie> No SSE (SSE is Intel)

05:07 <KathrynM> Dunno...  sorry

05:09 <dizzie> I could install Linux instead then. I think its a FreeBSD issue

05:09 <dizzie> Only use the box for webserver anyway

05:12 <KathrynM> yeah, the Linux app is good

05:12 <dizzie> Aha

05:12 <dizzie> Check this

05:12 <dizzie> http://people.freebsd.org/~pav/boinc.html

05:12 <Romulus> Title: BOINC on FreeBSD (at people.freebsd.org)

05:13 <dizzie> Guess i can run EAH that way

05:13 <KathrynM> hmmm... you can try

05:13 <dizzie> Or try F9 (have had that DVD for ages, just havent got around to install it/try it yet)

05:15 <KathrynM> I've got F8 running and it's fine

05:15 <dizzie> Mhm, i could... i guess :)

05:16 <dizzie> If i can find that dmn dvd :)

05:16 <KathrynM> lol

05:17 <dizzie> Found it :) a nice and purple DVD :)

05:17 <KathrynM> nice

05:18 <dizzie> Havent used a RPM based system in ages :)

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05:39 <clusty> KathrynM, so we playing scrabble?

05:41 <KathrynM> crud, I forgot about it

05:41 <KathrynM> just message me on FB if I go missing again :)

05:42 <dizzie> 35 of 955 packages completed... :)

05:42 <dizzie> Can aswell go take a nap hehe

05:42 * CoderForLife has been missing for sometime - he hopes to run into himself some day again

05:42 <KathrynM> I thought I saw him over there ------------------------>

05:47 <xcamel> boo

05:51 <dizzie> moo?

05:55 <CoderForLife> boo hoo

05:56 <CoderForLife> I'm off..

05:56 <CoderForLife> .. and off to w@#% early

05:56 <CoderForLife> got to go save the planet again

05:57 * CoderForLife decides that this spandex costume is definitely unbecoming

05:58 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:07 <Didactylos> Score! http://seantevis.com/kansas/3000/running-for-office-xkcd-style/

06:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6gqfor> (at seantevis.com)

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08:52 <KathrynM> awwww... just got a text message from one of my students wishing me a good weekend :-)

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09:26 <desti> they love you

09:27 <KathrynM> heh

09:27 <KathrynM> I'm hard on this particular class too.  They're capable but somewhat unmotivated.

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09:43 <MTughan> KathrynM: Maybe they're looking for relief the next time 'round. :P

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09:43 <MTughan> Pamper you so you'll go easier on them.

09:43 <KathrynM> lol

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09:51 <hawmps> &wx 12020

09:51 <Romulus> hawmps: Temperature: 80.3F / 26.8C | Humidity: 69% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 5.0mph / 8.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Slight chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Southwest winds up to 5 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - (1 more message)

09:51 <hawmps> &more

09:51 <Romulus> hawmps: Partly sunny. Chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph increasing to around 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.;

09:51 <hawmps> yuk

09:52 <MTughan> &wx YYz

09:52 <Romulus> MTughan: Temperature: 80.4°F / 26.9°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 9:52 AM EDT; Today - Cloudy with sunny periods. 30 percent chance of showers late this afternoon. Wind becoming west 30 km/h (19 mph) this morning. High 30C(86F). UV index 7 or high.; Tonight - Cloudy periods with 30 percent chance of (1 more message)

09:52 <MTughan> Same temperature and humidity, and still no A/C here.

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09:52 <MTughan> &more

09:52 <Romulus> MTughan: showers. Risk of a thunderstorm. Wind west 30 km/h (19 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 18C(64F).; Saturday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers. Risk of a thunderstorm. High 27C(81F).;

09:57 <MTughan> Today was supposed to be cooler and less humid... :(

10:09 * hawmps loves office AC

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10:15 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

10:15 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 86.0F / 30.0C | Humidity: 60% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 90s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Sunny...hot with highs in the mid (1 more message)

10:15 <jackygrahamez> &,pre

10:15 <Romulus> I don't know.

10:15 <hawmps> hot in DC

10:15 <jackygrahamez> &more

10:15 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: 90s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;

10:15 <jackygrahamez> (H)

10:16 <hawmps> (HHH)

10:18 <jackygrahamez> We are planning an East Coast BOINC meeting on August 29th at UDelaware, space is limited so register with Dr Taufer http://gcl.cis.udel.edu/ecbm08/

10:18 <Romulus> Title: Global Computing Lab (at gcl.cis.udel.edu)

10:35 <hawmps> this weather really messes with your head...

10:39 <dizzie> Its like 15c here, and cloudy too

10:40 <dizzie> &math convert 15 c f

10:40 <Romulus> dizzie: Error: c is not a valid unit.

10:40 <dizzie> Nåh...

10:41 <MTughan> &math convert 15 C F

10:41 <Romulus> MTughan: 59.0

10:41 <MTughan> Guess it needs to be uppercase... Odd.

10:41 <dizzie> CaSe Sensitive stupid bot

10:41 <dizzie> You know what takes AGES?

10:41 <MTughan> Yeah, it's not too hard to do case insensitive.

10:42 <dizzie> Compile a kernel on a 40MHz :)

10:42 <jackygrahamez> Yes I think the world would be a better place if the moved the US capital every 4 years

10:42 <MTughan> Oh, I could probably list a number of things... Passing a bill through government. xD

10:42 <dizzie> Not to mention.... use C and use METRIC system :)

10:42 <dizzie> Everyone else does hehe

10:42 <MTughan> Brits use miles.

10:43 <dizzie> Brits are odd, my weight is 8 stones?

10:43 <MTughan> Fair enough.

10:43 <dizzie> And a stone is what? Hehe

10:43 <MTughan> &math convert 1 stone pounds

10:43 <Romulus> MTughan: 14

10:43 <MTughan> &math 8 * 14

10:43 <Romulus> MTughan: 112

10:44 <dizzie> Convert 5'2" :p

10:44 <MTughan> &math convert 62 inches to cm

10:44 <Romulus> MTughan: 157.48

10:44 <dizzie> You cheat :)

10:44 <MTughan> Okay...

10:45 <MTughan> &math [math convert 5 feet cm] + [math convert 2 inches cm]

10:45 <Romulus> MTughan: 157.48

10:45 <MTughan> Better?

10:45 <dizzie> This compile takes ages, maybe a kernel compile wasnt such a good idea :p

10:45 <dizzie> 40 MHz Sparc :)

10:45 <MTughan> Any compile on a 40 MHz processor is a bad idea.

10:46 <dizzie> Currious about boinc... 1 week pr unit :p

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10:47 <MTughan> How about CPDN? Instead of being measured in months, it's measured in years. :P

10:47 <dizzie> I rather not :)

10:47 <MTughan> :D

10:47 <dizzie> I will stick with SAH and EAH hehe

10:48 <MTughan> Oh, you're no fun.

10:49 <dizzie> CPDN, that will make it choke for sure hehe

10:49 <MTughan> That's the point! :)

10:50 <dizzie> Bah :)

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10:58 <dizzie> lol...Claimed credit: 0.08

10:58 <dizzie> Aahaha

11:00 <DerMeister> sounds like a nice short workunit ;)

11:00 <dizzie> Or waste of time :)

11:00 <MTughan> It's a 40MHz Sparc. xD

11:00 <dizzie> No this was from my Duo core :)

11:01 <MTughan> Oh...

11:01 <dizzie> Not got boinc on the sparc yet :)

11:02 <DerMeister> are there any projects the offer applications for sparc?

11:02 <MTughan> SIMAP actually.

11:02 <MTughan> And you can get SETI clients for it.

11:03 <dizzie> SIMAP on 40MHz? ;o)

11:03 <MTughan> Hey, I'm just there's apps for it. :P

11:04 <DerMeister> Well, I think it could still do about one workunit each month ;)

11:04 <dizzie> My old 233 did seti classic units in about 20 hours :)

11:05 <DerMeister> I've still got an 200MHz Pentium here. But never tried to run boinc on it yet. Could be difficult as long as this machine is running Win95

11:05 <MTughan> Where the heck did you dig up a 40MHz Sparc anyway?

11:06 <dizzie> Friend gave me a box of old junk "Want it, take it" kinda thing :)

11:06 <MTughan> lol, nice...

11:06 <dizzie> 3 sparcs, one is working

11:09 <dizzie> Woah... notes to self: Check volume BEFORE hitting play

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11:17 <dizzie> http://cgi.ebay.com/Silicon-Graphics-Indigo-2-EXtreme-Computer-SGI-Teal_W0QQitemZ280246331111QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4193QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

11:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5r9y8x> (at cgi.ebay.com)

11:17 <dizzie> :p

11:18 <dizzie> &math convert 49 USD DKK

11:18 <Romulus> dizzie: Error: USD is not a valid unit.

11:18 <dizzie> Bleg

11:18 <dizzie> 49 x 4.5 then :)

11:18 <dizzie> Cheap :)

11:19 <MTughan> &currency convert 49 USD to DKK

11:19 <Romulus> MTughan: 49.00 usd = 230.82 dkk

11:22 <dizzie> And what exactly is this : http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Mac-iBOOK-Clamshell-366MHZ-INDIGO-M6411-Laptop_W0QQitemZ200239957059QQihZ010QQcategoryZ111422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem :P

11:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/556gb7> (at cgi.ebay.com)

11:23 <jackygrahamez> Is Indigo 2 Extreme a really good computer?

11:25 <dizzie> IF its a SGI you cant go wrong, they used them in the old days making stuff for Jurassic Park and the likes

11:25 <jackygrahamez> Looks like it was cutting edge technology in 1993

11:26 <jackygrahamez> I see the specs now

11:26 <jackygrahamez> I guess it would be fun to play with if I had the time

11:26 <jackygrahamez> http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/pcw5-93i2.html

11:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/8gywx> (at www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl)

11:26 <dizzie> I want this though

11:26 <dizzie> http://www.sun.com/processors/UltraSPARC-IIIi/index.xml

11:26 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/59yxap> (at www.sun.com)

11:27 <jackygrahamez> be my guest

11:27 <dizzie> 1.5GHz SparcIII :-)

11:27 <dizzie> I guess its a bit expensive :)

11:27 <jackygrahamez> I don't have all the material and know how to interface all the i/o

11:27 <jackygrahamez> RAM:              96MB (expandable to 384MB)

11:27 <jackygrahamez> Hard disk:        236MB

11:27 <jackygrahamez> torage options:  DAT drive, 3.5in floppy drive

11:28 <jackygrahamez> seems like a lot of work

11:28 <dizzie> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra25/

11:29 <Romulus> Title: Sun Ultra 25 Workstation (at www.sun.com)

11:33 <yoyo[RKN]> re

11:33 <yoyo[RKN]> how many cores does boinc support?

11:34 <dizzie> Not sure if there is any limit

11:34 <dizzie> 16 or 32 depends on your platform

11:36 <yoyo[RKN]> 128

11:36 <yoyo[RKN]> sun sparc t5240

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13:43 <hawmps> 89F/54% - phew.

13:59 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

13:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 74.3F / 23.5C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of thunderstorms. High in the lower 80s. East wind 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Thunderstorms. Some thunderstorms may produce heavy rainfall. Low in the upper 60s. Southeast wind near 10 (1 more message)

13:59 <wdsmia> &more

13:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: mph. Chance of thunderstorms 80 percent.; Saturday - Thunderstorms likely in the morning...then a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High in the mid 80s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 70 percent.; Flash Flood Watch for Polk County in effect until 6:00 AM CDT on July 19, 2008;

14:10 <hawmps> stw's popping up all over now...

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15:40 <MTughan> Well, AI fscked something up...

15:42 <MTughan> Won't get any work, and doesn't say that it didn't know my platform, even though it shouldn't.

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15:57 <xcamel> re-hi

15:58 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

15:59 <xcamel> Hi Doug

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16:43 <DerMeister> Doesn't '&' in team names work any more? Or is this just a problem at Leiden Classical?

17:02 <CoderForLife> home again

17:02 <xcamel> ditto

17:02 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

17:02 <xcamel> hiya

17:02 <CoderForLife> supposed to get a bid from my #1 candidate today "or it's free"

17:03 <CoderForLife> haven't seen anything yet

17:03 <xcamel> lol

17:03 <xcamel> bbiab

17:03 <CoderForLife> maybe it's free as in "worthless"

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17:10 <xcamel> I would hope not..

17:14 <CoderForLife> well, me too

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17:49 <KathrynM> PovAddict, ping

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17:52 <PovAddict> pong

17:52 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

17:52 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 73.0°F / 22.8°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.97in / 1014.8hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8.6mph / 13.8km/h | Updated: 6:52 PM ADT; Tonight - Increasing cloudiness. A few showers beginning overnight. Risk of a thundershower early this evening. Fog patches spreading inland. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph) becoming light this evening. Low 17C(63F).; (1 more message)

17:52 <Rookie_69> &more

17:52 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Saturday - A few showers ending in the morning then a mix of sun and cloud. 60 percent chance of showers or thundershowers late in the day. Amount 5 mm(0.2 in). Fog patches retreating to the coast in the morning. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). High 25C(77F). UV index 7 or high. Saturday night cloudy periods. Clearing near midnight. Low 15C(59F).; Sunday - Sunny. High 24C(75F).;

17:53 <CoderForLife> hello Rookie_69 KathrynM

17:54 <CoderForLife> hello PovAddict

17:54 <KathrynM> did you see the latest message to boinc_dev?

17:54 <PovAddict> database replication?

17:54 <KathrynM> yup

17:54 <KathrynM> and I see Carl just responded

17:54 <PovAddict> "meh"

17:54 <PovAddict> seen weirder things

17:54 <Rookie_69> Hello, CFL, K, Pov, etc.

17:54 <KathrynM> lol

17:54 <PovAddict> KathrynM: http://news.povray.org/povray.programming/thread/<web.48179e3c1f75f4ab375579a60%40news.povray.org>/

17:54 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/68rqlq> (at news.povray.org)

17:54 <PovAddict> er, that link broke didn't it

17:55 <PovAddict> well, the < and > are part of the URL, if they don't show clickable, copypaste or use Romulus's tinyurl :)

17:56 <KathrynM> nope, it worked

17:56 <KathrynM> your last message?

17:57 <PovAddict> his original message

17:57 <PovAddict> 1st

17:57 <KathrynM> all the way at the bottom?

17:58 <PovAddict> first message, top of page; can you make any sense of it?

17:58 <KathrynM> nope

17:58 <KathrynM> it's not 7 am yet :)

17:59 <PovAddict> few people could

17:59 <KathrynM> lol

17:59 <PovAddict> giving "suggestions" while having no idea what he was talking about

17:59 <PovAddict> overusing punctuation and in a single mess of a paragraph

18:02 * CoderForLife starts up http://www,solopianoradio.com

18:04 <Rookie_69> http://www.solopianoradio.com/

18:04 <Romulus> Title: Whisperings: Solo Piano Radio (at www.solopianoradio.com)

18:06 <Rookie_69> Dub dub dub comma doesn't work...

18:07 <CoderForLife> I sit corrected

18:07 * Rookie_69 has freebie piano playing now.

18:08 * KathrynM is watching Project Runway

18:08 <CoderForLife> music to Code by

18:08 <Rookie_69> Del Shannon?

18:08 <Rookie_69> No, wait... that was Runaway.

18:09 <CoderForLife> and that was Gene Simmons

18:10 <Rookie_69> I think I'll swim out to the front door to check the thermometer.

18:10 <CoderForLife> heatometer

18:11 <Rookie_69> Obviously, this hygrometer doesn't work.

18:11 <CoderForLife> how about your sling psychrometer?

18:11 <Rookie_69> Humidity feels like about 110 %

18:11 <Rookie_69> Singapore Sling?

18:12 <dizzie> I love error messages like this : The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.

18:13 <CoderForLife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygrometer

18:13 <Romulus> Title: Hygrometer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)

18:15 <CoderForLife> I'm going to take the night off

18:15 <CoderForLife> cya folks

18:15 <KathrynM> fun:  http://www.accuweather.com/world-index-news.asp?partner=forecastfox

18:15 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2lsetg> (at www.accuweather.com)

18:15 <wdsmia> cya Don

18:15 <Rookie_69> TC, Don.

18:15 <PovAddict> http://bash.org/?868827

18:15 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #868827 (at bash.org)

18:19 <dizzie> lol

18:20 <dizzie> Some people has too much time, so they do math like this :)

18:21 <PovAddict> http://bash.org/?870063

18:21 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #870063 (at bash.org)

18:24 <dizzie> http://bash.org/?207373

18:24 <Romulus> Title: QDB: Quote #207373 (at bash.org)

18:24 <dizzie> Ahahahahaa

18:26 <Rookie_69> My H key is still a bit sticky, but I think it ingested beer, not coke.

18:27 <Rookie_69> Maybe time for a rinse and hang dry.

18:28 <PovAddict> some idiot friend just fell for TWO trojans

18:28 <PovAddict> I got a message from him "hey look at this postcard I chose for you [link]"

18:29 <Rookie_69> With friends like you, who needs enimas?

18:29 <Rookie_69> ;-)

18:29 <dizzie> Not to mention the "see who has you blocked on msn" (+ others)

18:29 <PovAddict> suspected trojan... downloaded the link with wget, looked at it... indeed, the "view postcard" link pointed to a .exe

18:29 <dizzie> I love those :)

18:29 <PovAddict> laughed at him and closed everything

18:29 <PovAddict> a few minutes later

18:29 <KathrynM> lol

18:30 <PovAddict> "hey look this animation imitating Bush"

18:30 <PovAddict> he fell for another just minutes later?

18:30 <dizzie> Better is those where the image.jpg is a directory with a index.html spewing all kinds of nasty stuff your way :)

18:30 <KathrynM> gotta love it

18:31 <PovAddict> I might make my own to distribute BOINC

18:31 <dizzie> Yay :)

18:32 <PovAddict> make it show the standard installer wizard with the whole text of the LGPL, and near the end "by installing this you agree that your computer CPU power will be used for [...]" etc, then I'm legally covered, they agreed to it >:)

18:32 <PovAddict> nobody will bother to read it...

18:32 <dizzie> Well you could write the installer in anything but english :)

18:32 <dizzie> That works too

18:33 <PovAddict> dizzie: not really, I'd write it in English

18:33 <PovAddict> then start by sending the link to my Spanish-speaking friends

18:33 <dizzie> Ahaha

18:33 <dizzie> Evil :)

18:33 <PovAddict> and again, nobody bothers reading those anyway

18:38 <Rookie_69> If you set it to crunch for your account, do you think they'll figure out who set it up?

18:38 <PovAddict> they can

18:39 <dizzie> Cloak it as a botnet :)

18:39 <PovAddict> but I could create a new account just for that, if the goal is getting more crunching people instead of more credits on *my* account

18:39 <dizzie> Rename the service to WinUPD :)

18:39 <PovAddict> dizzie: I once got a trojan named svchost.exe

18:39 <PovAddict> hard to tell the trojan from the other six svchost.exe instances that run in every WinXP machine

18:40 <Rookie_69> Uh oh... I got seven...

18:40 <PovAddict> Rookie_69: maybe it's seven that normally run... I just remember it's a bunch of 'em

18:41 <Rookie_69> Lol.

18:41 <Rookie_69> Hope so.

18:41 <PovAddict> C:\Windows\svchost.exe, looked quite genuine

18:42 <PovAddict> (the real svchost is in C:\Windows\system32)

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18:45 <Rookie_69> Ctrl-alt-del is a key combination that many peeples have no idea about... Many boxes have stuff jammed in task mangler that should never be there. Bloatware is the most common and annoying.

18:45 <PovAddict> most people know about it from 9x days, "those are the keys you press twice to make it reboot when it bluescreens"

18:45 <Rookie_69> True.

18:46 <PovAddict> also... Ctrl-Alt-Del may open task manager, or may open a different window giving options (with task manager as one of them), depending on configuration

18:46 <PovAddict> Ctrl-Shift-Esc is always task manager

18:46 <dizzie> I remapped CTRL ALT DEL to a echo "Type reboot you moron" msg :)

18:46 <dizzie> ON *nix boxes that is

18:46 <PovAddict> and on Linux, Ctrl-Alt-Del might be an immediate reboot

18:47 <dizzie> Nope

18:47 <dizzie> Kills X :)

18:47 <Soul_keeper> that's ctrl-alt-backspace

18:47 <dizzie> That too

18:47 <dizzie> And hello Soul_keeper :)

18:48 <dizzie> X is evil anyway :)

18:48 <Rookie_69> I'd like to see a (ctrl-alt-)del bloatware button.

18:48 <PovAddict> definitely I can't try the new GPU-based BOINC project

18:48 <dizzie> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/

18:48 <Romulus> Title: Irssi - The client of the future (at irssi.org)

18:48 <dizzie> :p

18:48 <Soul_keeper> http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.hkepc.com/%3Fid%3D1447%26fs%3Dc1h&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.hkepc.com/%253Fid%253D1447%2526fs%253Dc1h%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1G1GGLQ_ENUS285%26sa%3DG

18:48 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6s6usg> (at translate.google.com)

18:48 <PovAddict> my GPU is already overloaded

18:48 * PovAddict enables framerate display

18:49 <dizzie> Even if i had a 5GHz, i wouldnt be using X much :)

18:49 <xcamel> back again

18:49 <Soul_keeper> so they are definately bring HT back ...  that cpu is gonna be hot

18:49 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:49 <PovAddict> I get 15 frames per second when rotating the desktop cube

18:49 <PovAddict> with floor reflection

18:49 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

18:49 <PovAddict> and blurred transparent windows

18:50 <dizzie> Using Compiz ?

18:50 <PovAddict> yes

18:52 <dizzie> Comiz is evil, but looks nice

18:52 <dizzie> +p

18:52 <MTughan> Better than Beryl.

18:53 <PovAddict> compiz -> beryl -> compiz-fusion

18:53 <MTughan> Overall, anyway. There are still some things that Beryl can do that Compiz can't/won't, but I've had better experience with Compiz.

18:53 <MTughan> Yeah, I'm referring to Compiz Fusion.

18:53 <xcamel> which is really both

18:53 <PovAddict> does beryl still exist?

18:53 <MTughan> I have Beryl by itself on my computer, yes.

18:54 <xcamel> beryl+Compiz == Compiz Fusion.

18:54 <dizzie> Compiz can use beryl themes iirc

18:54 <PovAddict> and I could have Windows 98 on another; that's not the point :) is it still maintained/developed?

18:54 <dizzie> What i thought

18:54 <PovAddict> dizzie: neither has "themes"

18:54 <xcamel> +emerald

18:54 <PovAddict> the window decorator (drawing titlebars) is emerald, and format hasn't changed in all the compiz->beryl->compiz change, afaik

18:54 <Rookie_69> It's too muggy for a shirt, too muggy for a shirt...(Sung to the tune of "I'm too sexy")

18:54 <dizzie> Whatever you call the stuff you use the program emerald for, i leave my case, i dont care, i dont use X :)

18:55 <MTughan> Rookie_69: Not needed. At all.

18:56 <Rookie_69> I think I'll swim to the bedroom...

18:59 <Rookie_69> There's an unused dehumidificater in there... I wonder if it still works?

18:59 <dizzie> Did you circumvent it?

19:00 <Rookie_69> It circumvents itself.

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19:15 <Rookie_69> Mmm... Ranch dressing spread over roots and fungus... Yum.

19:19 <Rookie_69> ... and I washed almost all the manure off the fungus.

19:19 <Rookie_69> ... fungi...

19:20 <dizzie> Night all :)

19:20 <xcamel> laterz

19:23 * Rookie_69 likes making people question their eating habits.

19:24 * Rookie_69 has hardly eaten any bugs since 1985... on purpose...

19:27 * Rookie_69 worked as a sanitiser in a food processing plant way back when...

19:27 <xcamel> Rookie_69 likes making people question their eating hobits.

19:28 * Rookie_69 never eats hobbits.

19:28 <MTughan> Was Rookie_69 eating mushrooms?

19:29 <Rookie_69> That was the fungus in question, yes.

19:29 <Rookie_69> ... not the magic kind either...

19:30 <Rookie_69> ... and orange rootsticks... Too muggy to cook.

19:31 * Rookie_69 looks at bubble gum-chewing bum going by outside...

19:32 <MTughan> Well, we polished off 3 and a half pizzas tonight...

19:33 <Rookie_69> At a half pizza per person, there must be six of you there... Don't do the math.

19:34 <MTughan> They're 10 slices a pizza.

19:34 <MTughan> And we're a family of four.

19:34 <Rookie_69> My kind of family!

19:35 <MTughan> Of course, we had 6 workers for the A/C... xD

19:37 <Rookie_69> My old roommate gave up buying pizzas when he realised that he ate two peices and I ate the rest.

19:38 <MTughan> lol...

19:39 <Rookie_69> ... and he outweighed me by about 70 lbs...

19:39 <MTughan> Nice!

19:40 <Rookie_69> I've always suspected that I had a tapeworm...

19:42 <Rookie_69> I was sick about 11 years ago and dropped down to about 120 lbs... It took me two or three years to get back up to 150.I'm probably ~155 now.

19:43 * Rookie_69 goes to the scales...

19:44 <Rookie_69> 154 with jeans on.

19:45 <Rookie_69> Of course I walk like I got an extra hundred pounds tucked away somewhere...

19:46 <Rookie_69> I dunno...

19:47 <PovAddict> &math convert 154 lb kg

19:47 <Romulus> PovAddict: 69.85322498

19:48 <Rookie_69> Rookie_69!

19:48 <Rookie_69> Almost 70.\

19:48 <PovAddict> oh, isn't the number for your age?

19:48 <Rookie_69> Maybe that's where

19:48 <PovAddict> *ducks*

19:48 <Rookie_69> I got that number.

19:49 * Rookie_69 swings.

19:50 <Rookie_69> If I added your age to mine, I probably still wouldn't reach 69.

19:50 <PovAddict> so you're younger than 52

19:50 <Rookie_69> ... for six or seven years...

19:51 <Rookie_69> 7.

19:51 <Rookie_69> :-)

19:52 <Rookie_69> That's only my chronillogical age... I'm really older than that.

19:56 <Rookie_69> Sometimes puns don't look quite right when they're typed out...

20:00 <Rookie_69> &dict pun

20:00 <Romulus> Rookie_69: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Pun \Pun\, v. t. To persuade or affect by a pun. --Addison. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Pun \Pun\, v. t. [See {Pound} to beat.] To pound. [Obs.] [1913 Webster] He would pun thee into shivers with his fist. --Shak. [1913 Webster]; gcide: Pun \Pun\, v. i. [imp. & p. p. {Punned}; p. pr. & vb. n. {Punning}.] To make puns, or a pun; to use a word in a (4 more messages)

20:00 <Rookie_69> &more

20:00 <Romulus> Rookie_69: double sense, especially when the contrast of ideas is ludicrous; to play upon words; to quibble. --Dryden. [1913 Webster]; wn: pun n : a humorous play on words; "I do it for the pun of it"; "his constant punning irritated her" [syn: {punning}, {wordplay}, {paronomasia}] v : make a play on words; "Japanese like to pun--their language is well suited to punning" [also: {punning}, {punned}]; gcide: (3 more messages)

20:02 <Rookie_69> Double sense... That's it.

20:02 <Rookie_69> Wry? Rye not...

20:02 <xcamel> uh-huh

20:15 * Rookie_69 goes and cuddles up with a good audiobook.

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20:25 <Soul_keeper> what's going on here ?

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20:51 <xcamel> laterz...

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21:28 <MTughan> Okay, something's happening with my computer... Won't boot programs, and some are starting to exhibit weird behaviour. Gonna restart.

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