IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-07-20

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04:35 <CoderForLife> morning any and all

04:35 <Didactylos_> Hi, CoderForLife

04:36 <CoderForLife> hello Didactylos

04:36 * Didactylos_ is contemplating code

04:36 <Didactylos_> and listening to The Firebird very loud.

04:37 * CoderForLife is trying to get his eyes opened and focused

04:37 <Didactylos_> The palace is going to collapse. I hope it's not too early in the morning for this :+)

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04:53 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 74.9F / 23.8C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 90s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then mostly (1 more message)

04:54 <CoderForLife> &more

04:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: clear after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms... mainly in the afternoon. Highs around 90. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

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05:57 <CoderForLife> off to the store - bbl

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08:05 <xcamel> 'lo

08:08 <xcamel> ip kill >> 69.214.33.206

08:13 <dizzie> Hello Jay

08:16 <xcamel> 'lo diz

08:19 <dizzie> I got my 70mhz sparc working, now i just need to find a OS for it :) Not sure if FreeBSD will run on it

08:21 <xcamel> hmmm..

08:21 <xcamel> solaris?

08:21 <dizzie> I cant afford that

08:21 <dizzie> I'm sure FreeBSD will run on it

08:22 <xcamel> it might

08:22 <dizzie> Fedora will

08:22 <dizzie> But i have issues with yum :)

08:22 <xcamel> add carbon and you'll have a 'sparkintosh'

08:24 <dizzie> True, but its only 70mhz

08:24 <dizzie> Its more fun than usefull

08:26 <xcamel> yeah..

08:27 <xcamel> like clustered indys, and O2's.

08:28 <xcamel> SGI boxes..

08:30 <dizzie> This is in a indigo casing, not sure if its a "real" SGI Indigo though

08:32 <dizzie> oh speaking of cluster

08:32 <dizzie> http://helmer.sfe.se/

08:32 <Romulus> Title: Building home linux render cluster (at helmer.sfe.se)

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09:07 <CoderForLife> re-hi

09:07 <CoderForLife> did the Saturday store run on Sunday

09:07 <CoderForLife> hello dizzie xcamel

09:09 <CoderForLife> just had good service from godaddy.com - they had automatically renewed an SSL certificate I bought a year ago and was letting expire - I called and they instantly canceled the renewal and refunded it, no muss, no fuss

09:09 <xcamel> http://cgi.ebay.com/SGI-Origin-3800-Server-Loaded-R14K-600mhz-x-64-64GB-Ram_W0QQitemZ300242326980QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300242326980

09:09 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5j3m4l> (at cgi.ebay.com)

09:10 <CoderForLife> Hmm SGI

09:10 <xcamel> funny ho 'godaddy' used to be the #1 spammer host in the world...

09:10 <xcamel> that was for dizzie..

09:11 <CoderForLife> yup

09:11 <CoderForLife> how's the Audi, xcamel?

09:12 <xcamel> that car is a beast..

09:12 <CoderForLife> I bet

09:12 <dizzie> 64GB mem...

09:12 <CoderForLife> must be fun to drive

09:12 <xcamel> the dealer down there wanted me to drive it home...

09:12 <CoderForLife> sure he did

09:12 <xcamel> yeah, right...

09:12 <CoderForLife> in exchange for...

09:13 <xcamel> the S4 and a big wad of chash...

09:13 <CoderForLife> uh-huh

09:13 <xcamel> er cash even...

09:13 <CoderForLife> lol

09:13 <CoderForLife> cache

09:13 <dizzie> &currency convert 1825 USD DKK

09:13 <Romulus> dizzie: 1825.00 usd = 8591.55 dkk

09:14 <xcamel> going back to any state but NY, I might have done it..

09:14 <CoderForLife> how are taxes on that kind of purchase?

09:14 <dizzie> No clue

09:14 <dizzie> Like i care, i cant afford it anyway :)

09:14 <CoderForLife> tax question -> xcamel

09:15 <xcamel> tax isn't the biggest problem, it's the title xfer, and insurance.

09:16 <CoderForLife> ah

09:17 <dizzie> Wonder if its boinc approved :)

09:17 <xcamel> they were decent folks down there anyway..

09:17 <CoderForLife> auto dealers across the river in KY here used to advertise "if you don't libe in the state of Kentucky, you don't have to pay Kentucky state sales tax" - but just wait until you tried to get Ohio plates...

09:17 <CoderForLife> er live

09:18 <xcamel> oh, and there is this button on the dash....

09:18 <CoderForLife> a button?

09:18 <xcamel> "S" for 'sport mode'

09:18 <CoderForLife> lol

09:19 <xcamel> it goes from 'granny' to 'GODZILLA'

09:19 <CoderForLife> rotfl

09:19 <CoderForLife> let's loose the beast! =)

09:19 <xcamel> you think I'm kidding...

09:19 <CoderForLife> what does it do? un-strap 4 cylinders?

09:20 <xcamel> http://www.autoblog.com/photos/autoblog-garage-2008-audi-rs4-cabriolet-1/834678/

09:20 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6rjdw9> (at www.autoblog.com)

09:20 <xcamel> button #2

09:20 <xcamel> on the left

09:20 <CoderForLife> "S"

09:20 <CoderForLife> lol

09:21 <CoderForLife> what does "ESP' do?  drive the car by mind-reading?

09:21 <xcamel> turns on active antiroll, sets computer to phase II mode, stiffens suspension

09:22 <xcamel> ESP == electronic stability program

09:22 <xcamel> "S" also unleashes the full 430HP

09:25 <CoderForLife> all very cool

09:25 <xcamel> the mileage should bother me, but I'll order a custom plate for it...

09:25 <xcamel> "GAZOG"

09:25 <CoderForLife> lol

09:26 <xcamel> did I mention the $2400 'gas guzzler tax' in NY?

09:26 <xcamel> nice to live in the CCCP-NY

09:29 <xcamel> need to go feed...

10:09 <xcamel> mighty soupy out..

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10:32 <xcamel> 'lo desti

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10:42 <xcamel> re-hi

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11:17 <CoderForLife> bbiab

11:25 <xcamel> lol - forgot I had 6.3.3 installed on the modbook... not that it wasn't working OK...

11:42 <BB_Laptop_> Mornin

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12:08 <nickuwo> if I need a ptr to a char, like by using strtok, is there an easier way to do it then -- char semi ';';  char * sem = &semi; ?

12:11 <Didactylos> Hmmm. What else is a const char *? Something like.... maybe a string literal? :-p

12:11 <nickuwo> interesting....

12:12 <nickuwo> the pieces are starting to fall together

12:13 <Didactylos> Technically, it wastes a byte. But who cares about a byte? Besides, string pooling may recover it for you.

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12:13 <nickuwo> i c

12:14 <Didactylos> Wait...

12:14 <Didactylos> strtok, you say?

12:14 <nickuwo> ya

12:14 <Didactylos> That takes a C string anyway!

12:14 <Didactylos> You can have multiple delimiters.

12:14 <nickuwo> uh delimiters

12:14 <nickuwo> ?

12:14 <nickuwo> oh ya

12:15 <nickuwo> well I used strtok(pch, ';'); and it didn't like that

12:15 <Didactylos> If you pass a reference to a random char on the stack, bad things will happen if the next byte isn't 0.

12:16 <Didactylos> So, your &semi may work, but only by chance.

12:16 <Didactylos> Use ";"

12:16 <nickuwo> ok

12:16 <Didactylos> Or, take 30 seconds to look at a reference: http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/clibrary/cstring/strtok.html

12:16 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2c6rp8> (at www.cplusplus.com)

12:16 <nickuwo> why would bad things happen if the next byte wasn't 0?

12:17 <nickuwo> That's where I got this from

12:17 <Didactylos> If will interpret the next byte as a character. And the next one. And so on. It's a massive unterminated string.

12:18 <nickuwo> I just didn't understand why they were using " " I thought that denoted a string... I forgot that strings are char [] in c...

12:18 <Didactylos> :-)

12:19 <Didactylos> Glad I could save you a few segfaults.

12:19 <nickuwo> hehe, me too. So it would try to tokenize the stack ?

12:20 <Didactylos> I'm not sure. It's undefined.

12:20 <DerMeister> No, it would just read along the stack until it founds a '\0' - or until it crashes - in order to find the end of the list with delimeters

12:20 <Didactylos> ...and I don't particularly feel like trying it.

12:21 <DerMeister> Hehe... Well, as long it is just reading it should either crash or split the string in some strange parts...

12:22 <DerMeister> writing to some random lokation in the ram is somewhat more fun ;)

12:22 <Didactylos> Indeed ;-)

12:23 <nickuwo> oh i c, because it's looking for the end of the delimiters... denoted by the string terminator '\0'

12:25 <DerMeister> correct

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12:59 <xcamel> 73F/86% humidity..

12:59 <xcamel> wowza

13:08 <CoderForLife> turn off the fire hose

13:09 <CoderForLife> bbl

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15:37 <PovAddict> [09:21] <xcamel> solaris?

15:37 <PovAddict> [09:21] <dizzie> I cant afford that

15:37 <PovAddict> dizzie: solaris can be downloaded for free from sun website

15:37 <PovAddict> it's like redhat; free software, paid support

15:38 <dizzie> Yeah version bloddy.old and reduced contents

15:38 <dizzie> It works with FreeBSD 7 :)

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15:48 <dizzie> Wb PovAddict

15:50 <Zombie> Hello.

15:50 <Zombie> I'm interested in setting up Boinc on Linux to work with Seti at home.

15:50 <dizzie> Good choice

15:50 <dizzie> cli or gui ?

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15:57 <efc> Moo

15:59 <dizzie> Hello efc :)

15:59 <Zombie> dizzie: Well, both.

15:59 <dizzie> Zombie: which distro ?

15:59 <PovAddict> Zombie: ask an actual question :)

15:59 <dizzie> He is

15:59 <dizzie> :P

15:59 <Zombie> I have both the CLI, boincmgr, and the KDE Boinc applications.

16:00 <Zombie> Mandriva.

16:00 <Zombie> 2008.1

16:00 <Zombie> Cutting edge.

16:00 <dizzie> *cough*

16:00 <dizzie> Sure :)

16:00 <PovAddict> dizzie: sorry I didn't see any message from him with a questionmark on it

16:00 <Zombie> Alright.

16:00 <Zombie> I have setup the boincmgr with all my subscription data

16:00 <dizzie> Zombie: go to boinc homepage, and fetch the "vanilla" boinc (the named *ubuntu* will work)

16:01 <Zombie> But when I restart boinc It says that no subscriptions are attacked.

16:01 <Zombie> But when I restart boinc It says that no subscriptions are attached,

16:02 <dizzie> in boincmngr, have you attached any projects

16:02 <PovAddict> Zombie: you used the Attach project wizard to add SETI and it succeeded?

16:03 <Zombie> Yes. The GUI always says that the next taskis deferred 23 hours

16:03 <dizzie> PovAddict: can you recommend a WM less than 1mb (hehe i only got a 4GB drive in my Sparc)

16:03 <dizzie> Gnome and KDE is NO! :)

16:04 <PovAddict> I have no idea

16:04 <Zombie> BOINC is not running (no lockfiles found).                      [  OK  ]

16:04 <Zombie> The BOINC client requires initialization (no projects attached).[WARNING]

16:04 <Zombie> Starting BOINC client as a daemon:                              [  OK  ]

16:04 <dizzie> Fluxbox maybe?

16:04 <PovAddict> twm if you like oldskool torture

16:04 <dizzie> Ahahaha

16:04 <dizzie> can aswell install win95 :p

16:04 <PovAddict> vtwm has multiple desktops and stuff :)

16:05 <efc> there's an ice-somethin

16:05 <dizzie> Now you are not funny

16:05 <PovAddict> Zombie: if the manager shows something in the projects tab, you DO have projects attached and the init script is wrong

16:05 <dizzie> efc: IceWM iirc

16:05 <dizzie> That works even with no mouse

16:06 <Zombie> I start boincmgr in userland, but I run the script as root.

16:06 <Zombie> Can that create problems?

16:06 <PovAddict> that depends on how BOINC was installed

16:06 <dizzie> It has to be started as a service, everything else is no-root

16:06 <PovAddict> and I don't think anyone here knows how it's packaged in mandriva

16:07 <dizzie> Or

16:07 <Zombie> Its a clone of the Fedora package.

16:07 <dizzie> Get the src

16:07 <PovAddict> dizzie: if he already has it installed, why make things complicated... you're making him go steps backwards and start over :)

16:07 <dizzie> Sorry :)

16:07 <Zombie> I did build it from source RPM. I "sponsored" the package.

16:08 <dizzie> You what?

16:08 <dizzie> Sponsored??

16:08 <PovAddict> what I've seen in other distros is: you run the script as root, the start script takes care of starting the actual daemon as another user

16:08 <dizzie> sh <boinc installer>.sh

16:08 <dizzie> cd BOINC

16:08 <dizzie> ./run_client

16:08 <dizzie> done :)

16:08 <Zombie> I was the original advocate for the inclusion of boinc in Mandriva.

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16:09 <dizzie> What was the old name of Mandriva

16:09 <Zombie> Mandrake.

16:09 <dizzie> Ahh

16:09 <dizzie> That explains it

16:09 <dizzie> Anyway

16:10 <dizzie> Do what i said, or read the guide/howto

16:10 <Zombie> Lets just assume I already have it installed and move on.

16:10 <dizzie> There isnt any native Mandriva packages

16:10 <dizzie> then cd <boinc dir>

16:10 <dizzie> ./run_client

16:11 <xcamel> the ubuntu package will work for mandriva

16:11 <xcamel> if you're running x

16:11 <Zombie> There's a reason I'm doing it this way. So I can deploy boinc network wide using urpmi tools

16:11 <dizzie> PovAddict, check your PM please

16:13 <Zombie> I'm in. Now.

16:13 <Zombie> I'm in advanced mode boincmgr

16:13 <Zombie> Okay?

16:14 <Zombie> Sun 20 Jul 2008 04:04:17 PM EDT|SETI@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.  Requesting 30240 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks

16:14 <Zombie> Sun 20 Jul 2008 04:04:22 PM EDT|SETI@home|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

16:14 <Zombie> Sun 20 Jul 2008 04:04:22 PM EDT|SETI@home|Message from server: platform 'i586-mandriva-linux-gnu' not found

16:15 <Zombie> What does this mean?

16:15 <PovAddict> Zombie: whoever made the package never tested it and has no idea how BOINC platforms work :)

16:15 <PovAddict> that's what it means

16:15 <PovAddict> what BOINC version is it?

16:16 <Zombie> boinc-client-5.10.45-1.svn20080315.1mdv2008.1

16:17 <dizzie> Mandrivaflavour

16:17 <dizzie> I like vanilla, they work :)

16:18 <PovAddict> I like flavored ones that work :)

16:18 <dizzie> Same thing

16:18 <dizzie> Zombie: my advice, go to the website and get the one named *ubuntu* It works, and no its not a Ubuntuflavour, they just call it that

16:19 <PovAddict> Zombie: you can work around that problem with a cc_config.xml making the *correct* Linux name the "alternate platform"

16:19 <efc> &zip clayton, GA

16:19 <Romulus> Bugger all, I dunno, efc.

16:20 <dizzie> I wanna call mine 1686-Spongebob then :)

16:20 <dizzie> i686 even

16:20 <PovAddict> Zombie: gave you link through PM

16:21 <PovAddict> (because otherwise Romulus will try to load it, and it's a "one-time link" :P)

16:21 <dizzie> http://localhost/

16:21 <dizzie> :p

16:21 <PovAddict> dizzie: it's a "temporary webserver" script; as soon as the file is downloaded once, the server quits

16:22 <dizzie> Figures

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16:27 <xcamel> things are really starting to spark up..

16:28 <dizzie> Its below 15c here

16:30 <Zombie> I think its working, but I'd like to pastebin some requests

16:31 <Zombie> http://pastebin.com/d796d0c21

16:32 <Zombie> Why is it only getting 0 new tasks every time?

16:33 <PovAddict> it got one task the first time

16:33 <PovAddict> the second time it didn't *ask* for any, probably because you forced it to update immediately

16:39 <Zombie> I see.

16:39 <Zombie> Would one task be one packet of data from the Seti@Home server?

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16:51 <Zombie> Another question, how can I visualize the Processing of the way Seti Classic did?

16:52 <PovAddict> click on the task on the list

16:52 <PovAddict> click Show Graphics

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16:56 <Zombie> What does it mean when a task ends in a "Computation error?"

16:56 <PovAddict> it means just that... it had a computation error and it was aborted

16:57 <efc> If it does it a lot you might become concerned

16:57 <Zombie> When I click "Show Graphics" thats what happens.

16:57 <Zombie> Every time.

16:57 <PovAddict> then don't :)

16:57 <dizzie> I had that on FreeBSD, and guess why... i386-mandrive-gnu-linux (or whatever) is the cause

16:57 <PovAddict> "if it hurts when you move your arm, don't move it"

16:57 <PovAddict> dizzie: you ran i386-mandriva-gnu-linux app in FreeBSD?

16:58 <Zombie> Please stop distro flaming.

16:58 <dizzie> No i had errors too and my box was shown as "unknown"

16:58 <dizzie> It is not, but

16:58 <dizzie> *mandriva* is not understood by the server

16:58 <dizzie> I'm thru here... not in the mood

16:59 <PovAddict> Zombie: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=924192821

16:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/588xto> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

16:59 <PovAddict> signal 8 is "floating point exception"... the graphics must be dividing by zero or something :)

17:01 <Zombie> Let me try the KDE Front end.

17:01 <PovAddict> although I thought SETI was already using a separate application for graphics

17:01 <Zombie> What port does kboincmgr use?

17:01 <Zombie> er

17:01 <Zombie> What port does boincmgr use?

17:01 <PovAddict> so if the graphics application crashes, the science app would be still alive and not give an error

17:01 <PovAddict> Zombie: 31416

17:01 <PovAddict> kboincmgr is weird

17:02 <dizzie> Glad i only use cli apps, they always work :)

17:02 <PovAddict> you need to give it hostname and port to connect to the core client and *also* the path to client_state.xml...

17:03 <CoderForLife> re-hi

17:03 <dizzie> Hello

17:03 <PovAddict> dizzie: yeah but boinc_cmd is ugly :)

17:03 <CoderForLife> some thunderbumpers moving in

17:03 <dizzie> Who cares aslong as it cruch units :)

17:03 <PovAddict> its output is neither user friendly nor easy to parse by a script!

17:03 <dizzie> Wuzz :)

17:03 <DerMeister> boincview just works and is quite easy to use :)

17:04 <dizzie> What DerMeister just said :)

17:04 <dizzie> Ahahaha

17:04 <PovAddict> too bad it's Windoze only

17:04 <PovAddict> but runs on Wine

17:04 <dizzie> boncview is a website iirc

17:05 <DerMeister> No, it's a program, just like kboincmgr but better

17:05 <PovAddict> dizzie: http://images.google.com/images?q=boincview

17:05 <dizzie> I used to have a php script i used

17:05 <Romulus> Title: boincview - Google Image Search (at images.google.com)

17:05 <DerMeister> However, it seems to be quite dead. No more news for ages

17:05 * dizzie slaps PovAddict with a non-installed Xsystem

17:06 <PovAddict> dizzie: stop living in the last century :)

17:06 <dizzie> I love you too :)

17:06 <PovAddict> if you won't install X, get an image viewer that works on the console (like via svga)

17:06 <dizzie> I like free mem and processes = no freaking X!

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17:18 <ELGono> well one could live without X but with running framebuffer ;)

17:19 <ELGono> lo dudes btw

17:20 <CoderForLife> hello ELGono

17:21 <ELGono> lo don

17:21 <dizzie> ELGono: ofc, irssi in console at 1280x1024 :p (VGA=794 iirc)

17:21 <dizzie> And moin :)

17:22 <ELGono> hehe and mplayer -vo aa

17:22 <ELGono> ;-p

17:22 <dizzie> True :)

17:22 <dizzie> aalib is fun :)

17:23 <ELGono> pretty sure i flew over jays house today (with supersonic mach 1.1 in a mig 17)

17:23 <ELGono> x-plane is pretty fun

17:23 <dizzie> Friend was messing around, so he got mplayer to play a movie using ascii :)

17:23 <ELGono> dizzie: just option -vo aa

17:23 <ELGono> it's a standard since years

17:23 <PovAddict> use libcaca, not aalib...

17:24 <PovAddict> so you get colors

17:24 <ELGono> true true pov

17:24 <AFLAC> HI ElGono et all

17:24 <dizzie> ascii is more fun :)

17:24 * AFLAC preening

17:25 <ELGono> hehe party on tonight AFLAC?

17:25 <AFLAC> That was last night, where were you?

17:25 <AFLAC> Her I suppose ;)

17:25 <ELGono> i were at 50th birthday party of heidis dad

17:26 <AFLAC> Dring were on the house then ;)

17:26 <AFLAC> Drinks

17:26 <ELGono> was hard to stand all that peppermint liquor

17:26 <AFLAC> lol

17:26 <PovAddict> dizzie: libcaca is color ascii

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17:26 <AFLAC> HI zom

17:27 * AFLAC sniffs self...

17:27 <ELGono> smells like teen spirit?

17:28 <AFLAC> you bet

17:29 <AFLAC> Is Heidi 22 yet?

17:29 <ELGono> 24

17:29 <ELGono> just the best age

17:29 <ELGono> hehe

17:30 <AFLAC> She probably looks 20 I bet

17:30 <AFLAC> Everyone looks 20 to me :)

17:30 <AFLAC> Time to eat, back later

17:30 <efc> I passed an awesome blond this morning. She didn't stop :(

17:31 <AFLAC> Dang!

17:31 <AFLAC> Sorry' bout that efc

17:31 * AFLAC runs for food...

17:31 <ELGono> maybe she was too blond ;)

17:32 <efc> sometimes I think if things just lined up a little different :(

17:34 <ELGono> just waiting for the next thunderstorm

17:34 <ELGono> can already hear some thunder

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17:39 <Romulus> WB, Boss

17:39 <efc> She was on a bicycle, I was on foot, couldn't catch her

17:40 <ELGono> bad luck efc

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17:43 <efc> And I suppose that would have been rather alarming.

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17:45 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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18:11 <dizzie> Christ... FF3 src is 35mb ;o)

18:12 <CoderForLife> MS infects everything around it

18:12 <dizzie> Its in my /ports tree :)

18:12 <dizzie> Gonna take a while to compile on a 70mhz Sparc :)

18:13 <CoderForLife> maybe untl FF4

18:13 <dizzie> Haha

18:13 <CoderForLife> but certainly not as long as until Windows 7

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18:23 <Romulus> WB, Boss

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18:48 <dizzie> Goodnight all :)

18:53 <PovAddict> http://news.povray.org/48739197$1%40news.povray.org haha

18:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5grlpc> (at news.povray.org)

18:53 <PovAddict> &urlquote $

18:53 <Romulus> PovAddict: %24

18:53 <PovAddict> http://news.povray.org/48739197%241%40news.povray.org if the link above doesn't work

18:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5s3mgx> (at news.povray.org)

18:59 <Soul_keeper> bla

19:00 <Soul_keeper> Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

19:00 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, is that ?

19:01 <Soul_keeper> is that you*

19:02 <PovAddict> no

19:02 * AFLAC me neither :)

19:07 <xcamel> re-hi

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19:17 <AFLAC> Surf's up  http://www.dailytech.com/Scientists++Water+Flowed+Freely+on+Mars/article12423.htm

19:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/67df7q> (at www.dailytech.com)

19:17 <AFLAC> Re hi J

19:17 <MTughan> Related to that... http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080720

19:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5gw7ug> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

19:18 <AFLAC> Beach front property available  http://www.dailytech.com/Evidence+of+Water+Discovered+on+the+Moon/article12355.htm

19:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6pszbz> (at www.dailytech.com)

19:19 <Soul_keeper> :)

19:19 <Soul_keeper> yeah you can already buy property on the moon aparently

19:19 <MTughan> Let's see if Rommie can work...

19:19 <Soul_keeper> all the actors are doing it ...

19:19 <MTughan> &web title http://www.dailytech.com/Evidence+of+Water+Discovered+on+the+Moon/article12355.htm

19:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6pszbz> (at www.dailytech.com)

19:19 <Romulus> MTughan: DailyTech - Evidence of Water Discovered on the Moon

19:19 <AFLAC> Good one MT

19:19 <MTughan> Okay, so it just does a tinyurl by default...

19:20 <xcamel> yup

19:20 <MTughan> Why?

19:20 <xcamel> because that's what I tell it to do..

19:21 <MTughan> I realize that. I was wondering the reason behind that.

19:21 <MTughan> Does this qualify as an interrogation?

19:24 <AFLAC> Outside speakers for the pesky neighbors ;)  http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/rockustics_pavorocci

19:24 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6kosn5> (at www.wired.com)

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19:35 <AFLAC> WB wdsmia

19:36 * AFLAC back later

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19:54 <xcamel> disappointing storms tonight

19:54 <xcamel> zero entertainment value.

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19:56 <KathrynM> we were supposed to get hit with a typhoon this weekend.

19:56 <KathrynM> got downgraded to a tropical store on friday

19:56 <KathrynM> when it hit on saturday, we had like a 5 minute downpour and was done

19:56 <KathrynM> no fun at all

19:57 <efc> xcamel: your feedback has been filed with Management and he promises you won't be dissapointed again!

19:57 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

19:57 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 77°F / 25°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1003hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Chance of Rain. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Chance of Rain. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:75 F. / 24 (1 more message)

19:57 <KathrynM> &more

19:57 <Romulus> KathrynM: C.;

19:57 <KathrynM> gee thanks

19:57 <KathrynM> that was so helpful

19:58 <efc> hehe

19:58 <KathrynM> When will it be fall?

19:58 <efc> Just like the last page of a printout is always a one liner

19:58 <KathrynM> lol

19:58 <KathrynM> or the tests I write.  One question on the third page.

19:58 <KathrynM> bah

19:58 <KathrynM> means I have to staple (I copy double sided)

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20:00 <CoderForLife> some big rumblies to the south of me

20:01 <CoderForLife> list of questions to ask the bidders tomorrow is ready

20:01 <KathrynM> that's good

20:02 <CoderForLife> both?

20:02 <Romulus> both are running at 2.7G, CoderForLife

20:02 <CoderForLife> excellent, Rommie, kthxbye

20:03 <KathrynM> lol

20:03 <KathrynM> <------ shower

20:03 <CoderForLife> not sure what to make of this storm front shaoe

20:03 <CoderForLife> er shape

20:03 <CoderForLife> http://cctvimedia.clearchannel.com/wkrc/weather/13.jpg

20:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5gz35h> (at cctvimedia.clearchannel.com)

20:10 <xcamel> it's a bow, but poorly organized.

20:11 <xcamel> probably some strong winds in it..

20:14 <CoderForLife> "penny size hail and damaging winds to 70 mph"

20:17 <Soul_keeper> how come i don't get any cool weather ?

20:17 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

20:17 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 76.1F / 24.5C | Humidity: 55% | Pressure: 29.35in / 993.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 58 to 65. Light winds.; Monday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 76 to 81 in the western valleys to 85 to 90 near the (1 more message)

20:17 <Soul_keeper> yeah ~75 degrees everyday this week, real exciting ...

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20:20 <KathrynM> I trade you Soul_keeper

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20:20 <Soul_keeper> haha

20:20 <Soul_keeper> KathrynM, i want rain and/or snow

20:20 <Soul_keeper> got any of that ?

20:20 <KathrynM> all I got is miserable heat and humidity

20:21 <Soul_keeper> well that's no fun

20:21 <Soul_keeper> that's lizard weather

20:21 <KathrynM> lol

20:22 <CoderForLife> somebody put a bow on this storm

20:23 <KathrynM> well, the sooner I get the w&@^ week started, the sooner it will be over.  T-5 days and counting until my summer break.

20:23 <Soul_keeper> nice

20:23 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, can you gift wrap it for Soul_keeper

20:24 <CoderForLife> Accuweather is not very accurate for me - tells me I have a thunderstorm when it's not raining, and tells me it's partly cloudy when I'm gettng hammered and the lights go out

20:24 <Soul_keeper> what about local weather channels ?  they accurate ?

20:24 <CoderForLife> they roll down the window and look outside

20:24 <Soul_keeper> heh

20:25 * CoderForLife thinks about how to handle characters in file names that aren't supported in XML

20:25 <PovAddict> like?

20:25 <Romulus> like is saying Clemenceau about military "the war was something too serious to let it to military" ( it was a french general ) , i say about politics :), PovAddict

20:26 <CoderForLife> Kathryn's special pic.jpg

20:26 <CoderForLife> I need to translate the apostrophe to &apos; I guess

20:27 <KathrynM> oh good, I'm not the only one who has trouble with accuweather.

20:27 <CoderForLife> and & to &amp;

20:27 <KathrynM> they had thunderstorms as my current weather all weekend and not once did it storm

20:27 <KathrynM> heck, it wasn't raining most of the time.

20:27 <KathrynM> anywhoooooo, later gators

20:27 <CoderForLife> there were thunderstorms *somewhere*

20:28 <PovAddict> and &quot; for "

20:28 <CoderForLife> ok tc KathrynM

20:28 <CoderForLife> yep PovAddict - but Windows doesn't support " in file names, does it?

20:28 <PovAddict> or, if you can be *sure* your filenames won't have "]]>" on them, use a CDATA block so you don't have to escape stuff

20:28 <CoderForLife> just like < and >

20:29 <PovAddict> Unix supports any character in filenames except the slash and the null character (\0)

20:29 <CoderForLife> o i c

20:29 <CoderForLife> hmm

20:29 <PovAddict> (filenames with funny characters are hard to deal with, but are allowed by filesystems)

20:29 <CoderForLife> including > and <  ??

20:29 <PovAddict> (yes you can even have a newline in a filename)

20:30 <CoderForLife> slash?

20:30 <PovAddict> no slash - only exception

20:30 <CoderForLife> the redirection chars?

20:30 <CoderForLife> &lt; and &gt;

20:30 <Romulus> No idea, CoderForLife.

20:31 <PovAddict> filenames can have > and < on them; you just put "quotes" around them or \< escape them if you want to use them in a shell

20:31 <CoderForLife> hmm  the thick plottens

20:31 <PovAddict> I once had a buffer overflow in my Code (overwrote the nul terminator in a string)

20:31 <PovAddict> that string was used for a filename later

20:32 <CoderForLife> lol  you hacked yourself

20:32 <PovAddict> ended up with a file with strange control characters on its name, 'twas hard to delete...

20:33 * CoderForLife makes a note to review CDATA when the sun comes up again

20:33 <PovAddict> create a file called "--help", then try to delete it :)

20:33 <PovAddict> "rm --help" will print help for the rm command

20:33 <CoderForLife> sum phun =)

20:33 <PovAddict> rm ./--help

20:34 <CoderForLife> yup

20:34 * CoderForLife watches the storms drift away

20:38 * CoderForLife decides to drift toward the bed with his XML book

20:38 <CoderForLife> cya folks

20:39 <efc> Night

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20:52 <xcamel> laterz..

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21:22 * AFLAC Gone to make a feather bed, ouch!

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21:34 <Zombie> Has anyone used kboincspy?

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21:47 <Zombie> Where are boinc state files stored?

21:53 <PovAddict> BOINC says so when it starts

22:01 <Zombie> Found it.

22:01 <Zombie> I may have found a bug.

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22:08 <Zombie> I can't get the "Graphics" to come up.

22:08 <Zombie> Its giving me that division by Zero issue,.

22:09 <PovAddict> well, it works for most other Linux users

22:09 <PovAddict> did you complete any workunit yet?

22:10 <PovAddict> at least let one run till completion without killing it with graphics :)

22:11 <Zombie> Yse. I did.

22:12 <PovAddict> it wasn't sent back to the server yet then

22:12 <PovAddict> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=4477872 <- doesn't show any successfully completed work

22:12 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5apnbw> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

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23:03 <Zombie> My Boinc Manager just finished one packet and I'd like to see updated work,.

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23:12 <Soul_keeper> who is    flightmaker  ?

23:18 <BiteAbleKat> http://picasaweb.google.com/biteablekat/McChordAirExpo

23:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5nvo3k> (at picasaweb.google.com)

23:20 <Soul_keeper> anyone ever run boinc on an xbox 360 ?

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