IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-07-25

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01:19 <efc> My congressdude apparently wrote me back about Arebico. I'll see what he has to say tommorrow.

01:37 <Soul_keeper> nice

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02:24 <efc> Hey, Zimbabwe started printing 100 billion dollar notes

02:26 <[B^S]renemayer> they give discount?

02:27 <efc> Worth about 1 USD ..

02:30 <[B^S]renemayer> hmpf, you meant zimbabwe dollars .-((

02:31 <Soul_keeper> atleast everyone is a billionaire there ...

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03:08 <efc> wealth and prosperity

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03:20 <efc> moo Q

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04:57 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

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04:58 <CoderForLife> &more

04:58 <Romulus> CoderForLife: the morning...then becoming mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. West winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

05:02 <CoderForLife> plinks: 122.0.9.154   60-250-0-52.HINET-IP.hinet.net   218.104.40.146   61.81.223.88   202.198.103.5

05:47 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%

06:15 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: 2008-07-25: BOINCstats - System Administrator Appreciation Day

06:28 <hawmps> mornin

06:28 <wdsmia> mornin Jay

06:33 <hawmps> 'lo Doug

06:34 <hawmps> ip kill >> 64.22.97.23

07:12 <quail> &wx ypad

07:12 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 8:30 PM CST; Overcast. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Chance of Rain. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F. / 6 C.;

07:13 <quail> hawmps: plunk

07:13 <quail> CoderForLife: plunk

07:16 <KathrynM> wow...

07:16 <KathrynM> It is convenient without it cuts even from inside when it runs it is a world-wide initial carrying Internet service which is the possibility of enjoying the superhigh speed Internet.

07:16 <KathrynM> from my ISP's website.

07:17 <Didactylos> o.O

07:17 <KathrynM> lol

07:17 <KathrynM> http://www.kt.com/eng/pro/dome_internet.jsp?pageNum=2

07:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6osy3c> (at www.kt.com)

07:17 <KathrynM> another great example of horrible Korean webdesign

07:18 <KathrynM> although it is better than LotteMart's site

07:18 <KathrynM> I won't even link to that one ;)

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08:26 <dizzie> Hello

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09:15 <hawmps> Hiya Diz

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09:22 * CoderForLife waves from deep down in the w@#% pit

09:25 * hawmps tosses in a penny..

09:31 <quail> hehe

09:32 * CoderForLife snatches the penny, and adds it to the wall fund

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09:34 * CoderForLife picks up the 25lb sledge hammer, and starts applying it to the next block of salt

09:35 <CoderForLife> laterz

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12:05 <MTughan> Whoa... Not accusing this time, but what's going on? Some really strange graphs... CPID splits? http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_user_graph.php?pr=bo&id=238842

12:05 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5umj9l> (at boincstats.com)

12:06 <quail> &wx ypad

12:06 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 50°F / 10°C | Humidity: 66% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1018hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 1:00 AM CST; Overcast. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Chance of Rain. High:55 F. / 13 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:42 F. / 6 (1 more message)

12:06 <MTughan> 'lo q

12:06 <quail> &more

12:06 <Romulus> quail: C.;

12:06 <quail> MTughan: howdy

12:07 <quail> well my desktop passed the 100K mark >>> http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=4443449

12:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/63dht8> (at setiathome.berkeley.edu)

12:07 <MTughan> Awesome. Congrats.

12:07 <MTughan> Man, REM just starts to sound all the same after a while...

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12:13 <quail> MTughan: thanks

12:14 <MTughan> According to BOINCStats, I'll hit 300,000 in mid August. I think it'll be a few days before that, but it'll be soon...

12:14 <quail> kewl

12:17 <zombie67> cool!

12:17 <zombie67> MT, with 6.2.14, I can't quit BOINC.

12:17 <zombie67> on Windows

12:18 <zombie67> the manager quits, but BOINC and the tasks still run

12:18 <MTughan> Register it as a bug, someone on boinc-dev has the same problem.

12:19 <MTughan> Does choosing "Shut Down connected client" shut it down?

12:19 <Didactylos> What sort of install?

12:20 <zombie67> the default, with the exception, I unchecked the use BOINC screensaver

12:20 * Didactylos can't remember what the default is.

12:21 <zombie67> I don't recall an option to choose regular vs. service.

12:21 <zombie67> with is with XP64

12:21 <Didactylos> If it's the service install, then not quitting is the expected behaviour.

12:21 <Didactylos> That should be the default.

12:21 <MTughan> Is it called a protected install?

12:21 <Didactylos> Yes, think so.

12:22 <zombie67> how can i tell if it is running as a service?

12:23 <Didactylos> Hmm.

12:23 <MTughan> "Well if you look at the registry then the ENABLEPROTECTEDMODEACCESS registry entry should be set to "1" if it was installed as a service."

12:23 <Didactylos> Go to the Messages tab, and look for....

12:23 <MTughan> Where that should be, I don't know.

12:23 <Didactylos> 15/07/2008 09:13:13||Executing as a daemon

12:24 <MTughan> Or that.

12:24 <zombie67> There is "Running as a deamon"

12:24 <zombie67> okay, how does one start/stop a service again?

12:24 <MTughan> Start->Run, compmgmt.msc

12:24 <MTughan> Don't remember in there.

12:24 <Didactylos> Suspending BOINC will suspend the service.

12:25 <zombie67> but I want to fully quit to do things like add optimized apps, manage xml files

12:25 <Didactylos> Then use "Shut down core client"

12:25 <MTughan> And to start it?

12:26 <Didactylos> Or services.msc

12:26 <zombie67> i thought there was a GUI way to stop/start services

12:26 <Didactylos> services.msc

12:26 <MTughan> services.msc is it. compmgmt.msc is a collection of stuff.

12:26 <zombie67> where is that located?

12:26 <MTughan> Use the Run dialog.

12:27 <zombie67> you're kidding, right?

12:27 <Didactylos> Or go via control panel.

12:27 <Didactylos> But run is quicker

12:27 <MTughan> Unless you want to navigate to C:\Windows or C:\Windows\system32 each time.

12:27 <zombie67> if i use run, then I have to remember the command

12:27 <Didactylos> MTughan: control panel->admin tools->services

12:27 <MTughan> Run remembers the last command entered.

12:28 <MTughan> Didactylos: I'm doing all this from memory. :P

12:28 <zombie67> ah.  there it is.

12:28 <zombie67> thanks

12:28 <Didactylos> MTughan: run remembers ALL the commands you type :-)

12:28 <zombie67> funny, the install never said that it was installing as a service

12:28 <zombie67> that I recall, anyway

12:30 <zombie67> in fact...is it even a choice with 6.x?

12:30 <MTughan> Protected install option.

12:30 <zombie67> Protected install option = service?  How would we know that?

12:30 <MTughan> By reading boinc_dev. xD

12:30 <zombie67> why not call it "Service install option"?

12:31 <Didactylos> zombie67: the idea is nobody *has* to know.

12:31 <zombie67> well, that's obviously not true

12:31 <Didactylos> Lots of programs quietly use a service to do the work.

12:31 <zombie67> or I wouldn't be having this conversation

12:31 <zombie67> the point:  the default behavior of the install CHANGED from regular to service

12:32 <zombie67> and it doesn't tell you that anywhere.

12:32 <zombie67> so if someone is familiar with 5.x or earlier, and then upgrades to 6.x, they will have no idea what's going on.

12:33 <Didactylos> Believe me, this will be the least of their problems.

12:33 <zombie67> question:  is the service installation what caused the data files to move under Docs & Settings?

12:33 <Didactylos> No.

12:33 <MTughan> That would be the install.

12:34 <Didactylos> That's required to make Vista behave, besides being good practice - the files shouls ALWAYS have been there.

12:34 <zombie67> So another change, but for a different reason.  At least you get a clue to that one.  It lists two paths on the install dialog.

12:34 <Didactylos> Dumping them in Prog Files was just wrong.

12:34 <zombie67> I agree.  But it is a change, that also caught me.

12:35 <zombie67> took forever to find where to put mu opt apps.

12:35 <MTughan> Are there any release notes to read, about some of the major changes?

12:35 <zombie67> my

12:36 <zombie67> I don't see any:  http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php

12:36 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

12:36 <Didactylos> Who knows. It's all a big mess.

12:36 <MTughan> Agreed.

12:36 <zombie67> there are release notes for the "default" version (5.10.45).  but not anything newer

12:36 <Didactylos> And if DA hadn't pissed off all his contributors, maybe he would have documentation already.

12:37 <Didactylos> The problem with wanting to do everything yourself is you HAVE to do everything yourself.

12:38 <zombie67> FWIW, I agree that data files should always be in a different, user-owned location.  I grew up on Unix, and that is what I am used to.

12:39 <PovAddict> well not for BOINC; data should be in a different, system-global location (doesn't make sense for each user in a machine to have his own WUs

12:40 <Didactylos> /var/db/ or Docs&Settings\All Users\

12:41 <PovAddict> Ubuntu puts it in /var/lib/boinc-client

12:41 <Didactylos> Ubuntu would.

12:41 <Didactylos> :-D

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13:57 <saenger> happy sysadmin day everyone in this business :)

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14:15 <zombie67> i need some help.

14:16 <zombie67> vtu's server is so old, it doesn't send XP32 work to XP64 machines

14:16 <zombie67> so I need an app_info.xml and the application

14:17 <zombie67> I may be able to work up the app_info.xml file by copying another, and making mods

14:17 <MTughan> I'm getting one up...

14:17 <zombie67> but where is the app located?  what's the standard path?

14:18 <zombie67> MT, with so many projects needing 700+mb of RAM, I decided to upgrade all my machines to 1gb/core

14:18 <MTughan> http://216.99.61.180:8080/app_info.xml

14:18 <MTughan> Cool.

14:18 <zombie67> so for all my 4 and 8 core machines, that means I also need to upgrade to XP64

14:19 <saenger> linux64 would have been ok as well ;)

14:19 <MTughan> Less projects have apps for Linux than for Windows.

14:19 <zombie67> heh.  yeah, but less projects support linux

14:19 <zombie67> yep

14:20 <saenger> but gpu is only possible under lin for now :P

14:20 <zombie67> TRVTH

14:20 <saenger> unless you run folding in parallel

14:20 <zombie67> okay, so were are apps located?

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14:34 <zombie67> hi jack!

14:34 <jackygrahamez> hi Zombie67

14:34 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20016

14:34 <zombie67> you'll know this...what is the path for where apps are typically stored?

14:34 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 88.7F / 31.5C | Humidity: 38% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly sunny. Highs around 90. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 60s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. South winds 5 to 10 mph.;

14:34 <jackygrahamez> on windows?

14:35 <zombie67> no, on the BOINC project server

14:35 <zombie67> I want to download an application, where would that be?

14:36 <zombie67> apps.php is the page that shows the versions

14:36 <zombie67> but I am looking for the actual app

14:37 <zombie67> it has to be someplace public, so the clients can get them.

14:37 <jackygrahamez> sorry I was having an assanine conversation

14:37 <jackygrahamez> I'm squeezed together now with all the other helpdesk because I had to evacuate my former office

14:38 <zombie67> ug

14:38 <jackygrahamez> mold and termites

14:38 <jackygrahamez> can't you get the app from download?

14:39 <jackygrahamez> which project?

14:39 <Romulus> It has been said that which project is RS, jackygrahamez

14:39 <zombie67> vtu

14:39 <saenger> [20:16]<zombie67>vtu's server is so old, it doesn't send XP32 work to XP64 machines

14:39 <saenger> [20:16]<zombie67>so I need an app_info.xml and the application

14:39 <saenger> [20:17]<zombie67>I may be able to work up the app_info.xml file by copying another, and making mods

14:39 <zombie67> you mean "projectURL/download"?

14:39 <jackygrahamez> checking

14:40 <jackygrahamez> depends if they allow indexing on it

14:40 <jackygrahamez> yes its index

14:40 <zombie67> is that the normal place for the applications?

14:41 <jackygrahamez> apps is not intended as world readable

14:41 <zombie67> ?  would have to be

14:42 <zombie67> otherwise, BOINC client would not be able to download it

14:42 <jackygrahamez> when you update an app by running update_version it copies the application files to download

14:42 <jackygrahamez> download is where the client communicates

14:42 <zombie67> wow.  the download folder at VTU is THOUSANDS of items

14:42 <jackygrahamez> yes

14:43 <jackygrahamez> they are not cleaning out the directory, all the input files must fannout to subdirectories, but they did not delete the original input files

14:44 <zombie67> okay.  got it.  Thanks!

14:51 <jackygrahamez> I had an idea I mentioned in the list, I would like to figure out how we can motivate the general population to participate in BOINC. To achieve this, I would like to see a random telephone survey to get people's opinions. What do you think about that?

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14:52 <jackygrahamez> Hi KathrynM_

14:52 <saenger> i would never ever answer to cold calls other as with swearing

14:53 <jackygrahamez> trust me I know, I volunteered for a political campaign recently

14:53 <saenger> that's plain spam

14:53 <saenger> cold callers should be jailed

14:54 <jackygrahamez> how else are we going to get a random sample of opinions?

14:54 <saenger> not the poor guys'n'gals in the call center, but those who pay them

14:55 <jackygrahamez> I read the email about the poll, but that survey is targeted towards people familiar with BOINC

14:56 <jackygrahamez> There is a significant sample biase when you survey people on the street

14:58 <saenger> you will never get any answers from people with a senxe for privacy with telephone spam

14:58 <saenger> that's a bias as well

14:58 <Didactylos> So, you want to run a poll where 99.98% of respondents have no idea what you're talking about?

14:59 <jackygrahamez> yes

14:59 <Didactylos> Why?

14:59 <jackygrahamez> To figure out how to make BOINC appealing to them

15:00 <saenger> get the adresses from some official source with rightful access to the adresses (no data mining company, but a city council or such), let them inform the possible participants beforehand what's planned, and let them opt in or out.

15:01 <saenger> that's a bit tedious and will take time and effirt, but imho it's the only legal way

15:01 <jackygrahamez> ok, I thought there might be some legal stuff, I do have some legal friends to vet the idea with

15:02 <saenger> i know that in the states the privacy is not that good evolved as in europe

15:02 <jackygrahamez> not something I'm rushing into

15:02 <saenger> perhaps it's legal there (but no way legitimate imho)

15:02 <saenger> in europe unsolicited telephone contact is forbidden

15:02 <jackygrahamez> we have certain rules about telephone solicitations

15:02 <saenger> afaik

15:03 <jackygrahamez> so how do European's do market analysis?

15:03 <saenger> with volunteers?

15:04 <jackygrahamez> I'm thinking in a very broad conceptual way

15:04 <saenger> by looking at what goes over the cashier?

15:05 <saenger> I get the occasional telephone spam myself, and never have bothered to sue them for now

15:05 <saenger> but they will not get any answers from me

15:05 <jackygrahamez> so if a company was interested in developing a new product and they wanted to see if people would buy it, they must have a legal way to research

15:05 <saenger> besides: bugger off, you scum

15:06 <Didactylos> jackygrahamez: focus groups, street surveys...

15:06 <jackygrahamez> ok

15:06 <saenger> privacy is far more important than money

15:07 <saenger> privat companies don't have the right to abuse my personal data for profit

15:07 <jackygrahamez> I understand

15:07 <saenger> and my telephone unmber is my personal data

15:07 <Didactylos> In the UK, cold calling isn't banned outright.

15:07 <jackygrahamez> Well I'm not planning to call you

15:08 <Didactylos> But unlisted numbers and the do not call list must be respected.

15:08 <saenger> that wouldn't be a cold call, as we know each other from here ;)

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15:08 <jackygrahamez> brb

15:10 <saenger> one possibility to get legal access to such possibilities is payback cards and such, if you subscribed to some Standard form contract you may have surrendered your privacy to that company

15:10 <saenger> one reason why i don't have such a big-brother card

15:17 <saenger> I just read the wikipedia about it (german version), and it's forbidden do do commercial cold calls, including market resaerch. it's not forbidden to do political polls. Link to german page: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unerw%C3%BCnschte_telefonische_Werbung#Meinungs-_und_Marktforschung

15:17 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6y979a> (at de.wikipedia.org)

15:21 <CoderForLife> R.I.P. Randy Pausch

15:28 <jackygrahamez> If they give me a phone for free, I would not mind getting spamed

15:51 <PovAddict> woah

15:51 <PovAddict> Rytis's car was broken into; quite a bit of damage

15:51 <KathrynM_> wha?

15:51 <jackygrahamez> wasn't me

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15:52 * KathrynM yawns

15:52 <PovAddict> KathrynM: ask him the details yourself; it wouldn't be right to just say it in the channel without him knowing :)

15:52 <KathrynM> It was more of a shocked reaction, not fishing for details :)

15:52 <PovAddict> :P

15:53 <KathrynM> but awwwwwwwwww, come on, let's talk about Rytis :P

15:53 <KathrynM> ouch

15:55 <jackygrahamez> hope they did not steal any of his fabulous t-shirts

15:58 <KathrynM> crud, it's storming

15:59 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20011

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15:59 <jackygrahamez> &more

15:59 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: around 70. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

15:59 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

15:59 <jackygrahamez> &wx 12758

15:59 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 72°F / 22°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.69in / 1005hPa | Conditions: Thunderstorms and Rain | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 1mph / 2km/h | Updated: 3:00 AM KST; Rain. High:86 F. / 30 C.; Rain. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Rain. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Rain. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:77 F. / 25 C.;

15:59 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 84.4F / 29.1C | Humidity: 56% | Pressure: 29.90in / 1012.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6.0mph / 9.7km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Patchy valley fog after midnight. Lows in the mid 50s. Light and variable winds.; Saturday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms late in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 80s. South winds around 10 (1 more message)

15:59 <jackygrahamez> &more

15:59 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy. A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows around 60. Light and variable winds. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

16:12 <saenger> &wx bremen, germany

16:12 <Romulus> saenger: Temperature: 74°F / 24°C | Humidity: 71% | Pressure: 29.94in / 1014hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 14km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM CEST; Overcast. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Clear. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:84 F. / 29 C.; Clear. Low:62 F. / 17 C.;

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16:17 * AFLAC Quack

16:18 <AFLAC> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1469970.ece

16:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5occe7> (at www.thesun.co.uk)

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16:19 <AFLAC> HI KathrynM

16:19 <AFLAC> http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/25/1150218&from=rss

16:19 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5cmmcy> (at linux.slashdot.org)

16:20 <AFLAC> brb

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16:24 * AFLAC Sneaks back in

16:25 <AFLAC> TGIF P.M.

16:26 * KathrynM is on summer holiday

16:26 <KathrynM> woot!

16:26 * AFLAC Lucky KathrynM Hiccup

16:27 <KathrynM> freedom from small people for the next 9 days

16:27 <AFLAC> What is the Holiday there?  9 Days off in a ROW?

16:28 <AFLAC> Party Party PARTY!

16:28 <KathrynM> 5 school days + 2 weekends

16:28 <AFLAC> Very Kool

16:28 <KathrynM> just summer break

16:28 <KathrynM> yeah

16:28 <AFLAC> Good one too

16:28 <KathrynM> public schools get a month off

16:28 <AFLAC> I am lucky to get 5 days off in a row for last 3 years

16:28 <KathrynM> small perk of teaching

16:29 * AFLAC Wiping tears away with feathers flying

16:29 <AFLAC> Are you US born?

16:30 <KathrynM> yup

16:30 * AFLAC born from egg

16:31 <AFLAC> Was supose to be someones breakfast

16:32 <KathrynM> I'm glad you weren't breakfast

16:32 * AFLAC Truly true

16:32 <AFLAC> Now could be a Dinner

16:33 <KathrynM> it's hard being a water fowl

16:33 * AFLAC thinks I am just fowl any way ;-)

16:34 <xcamel> re-hi

16:34 <KathrynM> hiya xcamel

16:34 <AFLAC> HI J

16:34 <xcamel> looks like I get to go get the car tomorrow..

16:34 * AFLAC Camel

16:34 <xcamel> woopee!

16:35 <AFLAC> Smokin' gonning to get a ticket too?

16:35 <AFLAC> ;-)

16:35 <xcamel> hush..

16:35 <AFLAC> :P

16:35 <xcamel> that I **don't** need.

16:35 * AFLAC thinks me neither

16:36 <AFLAC> Just hope it is not a RED one

16:36 <xcamel> write-me-a-ticket-red indeed.

16:36 <AFLAC> Candy Apple Red will get you a ticket, I found out

16:37 <xcamel> this is "Milsano Red" - think Lamborghini

16:37 * AFLAC Hummmmmmmmmm

16:40 <AFLAC> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeBd_F2Bz5Y

16:40 <CoderForLife> re-hi

16:40 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Ferrari vs. Lamborghini (at www.youtube.com)

16:40 <AFLAC> Hi CFL

16:41 <CoderForLife> anybody here?

16:41 <CoderForLife> hiya AFLAC

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16:41 <CoderForLife> been w@#%ing on w@#% homew@#%

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16:42 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

16:42 <CoderForLife> hello xcamel

16:42 <CoderForLife> more than just US born, KathrynM is Buckeye born

16:42 * AFLAC Euuuuu CFL

16:43 <PovAddict> quack

16:43 <AFLAC> On work

16:43 <AFLAC> Quack Back to ya

16:43 <AFLAC> PovAddict

16:43 <CoderForLife> I'm leading two days of beat^H^H^H^Hmeetings in Hartford next week - got to get the agenda slides cooked up

16:44 <AFLAC> I have a spread going Wednesday for about 4 hours (puke)

16:44 * CoderForLife smells PowerPoint cooking

16:44 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: my dad has two weeks of w$%& meetings in the US

16:44 * AFLAC Ditto

16:44 <CoderForLife> where abouts PovAddict

16:45 <PovAddict> ...the two weeks my sister has of school holidays...

16:45 <CoderForLife> Accidental?  Or *planned*??

16:46 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

16:46 <PovAddict> well, he has no control over the dates...

16:46 <CoderForLife> Who does your dad w@#% for?

16:47 <CoderForLife> hey Kate

16:47 <PovAddict> something seems a bit unfair:

16:48 <PovAddict> if you take the day off on a day you should be w#$%ing, supposedly they substract one from your holiday pool, right?

16:48 <PovAddict> if you have to w$%& on a holiday... they don't add one

16:48 <CoderForLife> Welcome to the Real World, Neo

16:49 * AFLAC Looks around for anything real in here ...

16:50 <CoderForLife> It's just another level of control

16:51 <AFLAC> http://www.kurzweilai.net/news/frame.html?main=news_single.html?id%3D9103

16:51 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6bkgsp> (at www.kurzweilai.net)

16:53 <AFLAC> Odd one http://news.wired.com/dynamic/stories/C/CHINA_INTERNET_BOOM?SITE=WIRE&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-07-25-02-43-59

16:53 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5bg2au> (at news.wired.com)

16:54 <AFLAC> I think they said we sold 253 million iPODS here

16:55 * AFLAC NOT an advertisement

16:55 * CoderForLife waves his iPod nano

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16:57 * AFLAC Flush Rinse and repeat ;-)

16:58 <CoderForLife> heh

16:58 <KathrynM> why do I even bother with the accuweather firefox addon?

16:58 <KathrynM> it's storming like crazy, and the widget says it's cloudy.

16:58 <CoderForLife> I wonder the same

16:58 <KathrynM> yesterday it was sunny and it had the stormy icon

16:58 <CoderForLife> it's just goofy

16:59 <CoderForLife> again, R.I.P. Randy Pausch

17:10 <AFLAC> &beer

17:10 <Romulus> Here's your beer, AFLAC... Now drink up before I slap you silly!

17:10 <xcamel> lol - never liked the viper.

17:14 <xcamel> ditto R.I.P. Randy Pausch

17:14 <xcamel> mighty tough way to go..

17:16 <jackygrahamez> Later folks! :-)

17:16 <jackygrahamez> (#)

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17:38 <CoderForLife> a tough way to go, but a class act on the way out

17:40 <xcamel> no doubt about that.

17:41 <xcamel> btw - I can go get the car tomorrow..

17:48 <CoderForLife> great!

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17:56 <AFLAC> &wx 30303

17:56 <Romulus> AFLAC: Temperature: 82.9F / 28.3C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows around 70. West winds up to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday - Partly sunny (1 more message)

17:57 <AFLAC> &more

17:57 <Romulus> AFLAC: with a 40 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms in the evening...then a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms after midnight. Lows in the lower 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

17:58 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 81.4F / 27.4C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 29.99in / 1015.5hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the evening. Areas of fog after midnight. Low in the mid 60s. Northwest wind around 5 mph.; Saturday - Partly sunny. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. High (1 more message)

17:58 <wdsmia> &more

17:58 <Romulus> wdsmia: in the upper 80s. North wind around 5 mph shifting to the east in the afternoon.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the upper 60s. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 40 percent.;

17:58 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:59 <AFLAC> http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?location=USGA0301&animate=true

17:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5rlygs> (at www.intellicast.com)

17:59 <AFLAC> HI Doug

17:59 <wdsmia> *lo Don

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17:59 <AFLAC> Bummer

18:00 * AFLAC weather is for the Ducks

18:02 <AFLAC> Ducks @ W$%&  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8prS1jsvI

18:02 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Funny Commercial - Ducks Revenge (at www.youtube.com)

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18:17 <Rookie_69> &seen aflac

18:17 <Romulus> Rookie_69: aflac was last seen in #boinc 14 minutes and 57 seconds ago: <AFLAC> Ducks @ W$%&  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R8prS1jsvI

18:17 <wdsmia> *lo Glenn

18:17 <Rookie_69> *lo, Doug

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18:27 <Rookie_69> So, if the hurricane/tropical storm/post tropical depression has passed, why is it still raining? Oh yeah... the weekend.

18:31 <Soul_keeper> ok

18:38 <xcamel> back again

18:39 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

18:39 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

18:42 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

18:43 <xcamel> you get the rest of what we had yesterday...

18:43 <xcamel> finally cleared out nicely here..

18:44 <Rookie_69> Maybe tomorrow will be better than predicted then...

18:44 <xcamel> goin back to PA tomorrow...

18:45 <xcamel> (big grin)

18:45 <Rookie_69> You got stores there now too?

18:46 <Rookie_69> ... or just walkabout?

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18:46 <zombie67> good thing I added more memory to my mac.  BOINC is using 6300mb

18:48 <Soul_keeper> hmmm

18:48 <Soul_keeper> what project ?

18:48 <Romulus> It has been said that what project are we talking about, Soul_keeper

18:49 <zombie67> in this case, Lattice.

18:49 <Soul_keeper> havn't heard of that one

18:49 <zombie67> there are two tasks taking 986mb, and 4 using 740mb

18:50 <zombie67> The Lattice Project.  It's like WCG, in that they run many different sub projects for the university.

18:50 <zombie67> http://boincstats.com/index.php?pr=lattice

18:50 <Romulus> Title: BOINCstats - BOINC Statistics / BAM! - BOINC Account Manager (at boincstats.com)

18:50 <zombie67> http://boinc.umiacs.umd.edu/

18:50 <Romulus> Title: The Lattice Project (at boinc.umiacs.umd.edu)

18:51 <zombie67> lots of projects are using huge memory now.  Also, Magnetism, Superlink, a WCG project (I think)

18:51 <zombie67> Predictor

18:54 <xcamel> Getting the new audi tomorrow..

18:54 <zombie67> which model?

18:54 <xcamel> RS-4 Cabrio

18:54 <zombie67> Nice!

18:54 <zombie67> I like the avant

18:56 <xcamel> http://www.autoblog.com/photos/autoblog-garage-2008-audi-rs4-cabriolet-1/834654/

18:56 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6g53f5> (at www.autoblog.com)

18:56 <xcamel> trading up from my S4

18:56 <zombie67> sweet!  I used to have an allroad, with 2.7TT

18:57 <xcamel> I had the first red 225 TT off the boat in the US

18:58 <xcamel> by the time I got done with it it was 260HP, lowered, and had an APR cat back tuned exhaust system

18:59 <zombie67> nice.  I was *this* close to chipping the 2.7TT.  what a sweet engine.  Awesome car for Lake Tahoe

19:00 <xcamel> AWE chipsets..

19:07 <Soul_keeper> lol where'd you get that kinda money xcamel ?

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19:11 <efc> Hey

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19:22 <xcamel> I work hard for a living, SK

19:25 <efc> Money for nothing, and the chicks for free.

19:33 <Soul_keeper> lol

19:33 <Soul_keeper> xcamel,  you one of them college grads that sits in a computer room all day ?

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19:40 <Soul_keeper> probably using credit ...

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19:42 <xcamel> I never buy cars on credit

19:44 <Rookie_69> Just fights with blue haired old ladies for salesmens' attention.

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19:46 <xcamel> I get plenty of 'curb qualifications'

19:47 <xcamel> No, SK, I own a family business that keeps me out of the poorhouse.

19:47 <Soul_keeper> :)

19:48 <Soul_keeper> so you're working smart  ic

19:48 <xcamel> Glenn - I wandered around in a jag/range rover dealership for 45 minutes and no one ever approached me - I sent a pretty nasty letter to the owner.

19:49 <Soul_keeper> their loss right ?

19:49 <Rookie_69> I remember hearing about it.

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19:50 <xcamel> now I'm damned glad I didn't buy anything there.

19:50 <Rookie_69> Maybe if youn trimmed that 'stache and wore decent clothes they'd have come over...

19:50 <Rookie_69> Lol.

19:50 <xcamel> I had to buy the audi in PA - as the local dealers' crew is a bunch of asshats

19:51 <Rookie_69> Ah... Hence the trip to PA.

19:51 <xcamel> **and** the jerk was trying to make $5k on both sides of the sale.

19:52 <Soul_keeper> ever see the vw dealerships in germany ?   saw a think about them on tv

19:52 <xcamel> "I might have been born at night - but it wasn't last night...."

19:52 <xcamel> yup - like a giant VW vending machine...

19:53 <Soul_keeper> they are shaped like giant circular storage garages,   you walk in at the bottom tell them what kind of car you want, what color/features/etc.   then they press a button on the computer, and a robotic arm goes up and gets the one you selected

19:53 <Soul_keeper> that's cool

19:56 <xcamel> it is totally cool

19:57 <xcamel> btw - the RS4 is 30% Lamborghini

19:58 * Soul_keeper drives a 20yr old budget truck

19:58 <Rookie_69> Hopefully not the electrics...

19:58 <Soul_keeper> just got a new clothes dryer the other day for free,  it's like 20yrs old   a possum had died in it

19:58 <xcamel> Audi bought them out

19:58 * Rookie_69 watched SK chance his timing chain...

19:59 <Rookie_69> ...change...

19:59 <Soul_keeper> yeah i'm gonna try to put another 200k on it

20:00 <nickuwo> surprised you didn't have to pay for that gem soul_keeper

20:01 <Soul_keeper> :)

20:01 <nickuwo> did the possum come with it? :)

20:01 <Soul_keeper> yeah, i had to clean it out

20:02 <Soul_keeper> it had crawled up inside the burner, then she turned it on

20:02 <Soul_keeper> fryed him

20:04 <nickuwo> yikes...

20:05 <xcamel> that had to smell real good..

20:05 <Soul_keeper> ohhh yeah

20:07 <xcamel> just like a 'wattaburger'

20:10 <Soul_keeper> 2.5hrs for wcg stats to update

20:10 <CoderForLife> gn folks

20:10 <Soul_keeper> get to see if i have any chance of catching the brasilains

20:10 <xcamel> laterz, Don

20:11 <Soul_keeper> lol that dryer is 1982

20:12 <xcamel> gas?

20:12 <Romulus> Rumor has it gas is only $3.89, xcamel

20:19 <Rookie_69> Gas dropped all the way to $1.32.1 per litre here today!

20:21 <xcamel> some place below $4/gal here now - not many.

20:24 <xcamel> NY is getting fat and rich on fscking fuel taxes

20:32 <Rookie_69> The clouds are urinating outside... I should stick this keyboard out there.

20:33 <Rookie_69> The keys need a good rinse.

20:35 <xcamel> lol

20:49 <Soul_keeper> i saw a place charging 5 bucks even per gallon the other day

20:50 <Soul_keeper> must have been full service i'd assume ...

20:52 <xcamel> Topless service?

20:52 <Soul_keeper> maybe

20:52 <xcamel> oh wait... Kalifornicatia..

20:53 <xcamel> almost as bad as Nuevo Jerk

20:54 <xcamel> laterz...

20:54 <wdsmia> cya

20:54 <Rookie_69> K.

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21:15 <Soul_keeper> 25-Jul-2008 18:36:34 [---] Version change (5.4.9 -> 6.3.5)

21:16 <PovAddict> lol 5.4.9

21:16 <PovAddict> now that's outdated

21:19 <PovAddict> can anybody check if this list of workunit states seems complete? try to find a situation where just having one from this list doesn't say enough about the WU status

21:19 <PovAddict> new (waiting to download), downloading, ready (unstarted), running, paused, waiting to upload (computation completed), uploading, ready to report

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21:26 <Soul_keeper> --project_attach URL auth

21:26 <Soul_keeper> what is   "auth"   ?

21:26 <PovAddict> your account key

21:26 <PovAddict> you can get it with --lookup_account

21:28 <Soul_keeper> Authorization failure: -155

21:28 <PovAddict> boinc_cmd can't connect to the core client

21:29 <PovAddict> try giving the rpc password (from gui_rpc_auth.cfg) with --passwd

21:30 <Soul_keeper> ok restarting the boinc_client  fixed it ...

21:30 <Soul_keeper> for some reason i can't connect to it remotely

21:34 <Soul_keeper> connect: Operation now in progress                just keeps repeating that and never connects

21:49 <Soul_keeper> there we go

21:49 <Soul_keeper> some file in the BOINC dir, couldn't track it down

22:09 <Soul_keeper> hopefully the old athlon 2000+ will help boost my output by 2%

22:18 <Soul_keeper> just turned it on with slack 10.0, for the first time since a power outtage killed it about 1yr ago

22:18 <Soul_keeper> it had over 1yr uptime before the killing

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22:33 <Soul_keeper> http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/challenge/viewTeamChallenge.do?challengeId=1349           geez only 800 points behind brazil now

22:33 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6qxrfw> (at www.worldcommunitygrid.org)

22:33 <Soul_keeper> never had a race so close

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23:00 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

23:00 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 72.4F / 22.4C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 29.32in / 992.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 62 to 68. Light winds.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 79 to 84 in the western valleys to 87 to 92 near the foothills. Light winds.; Saturday (1 more message)

23:00 <Soul_keeper> if the heat kills my quad while i'm at work, then i'm guaranteed to lose ...

23:02 <KathrynM> your mind?

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23:09 <Soul_keeper> KathrynM, a one week wcg race

23:09 <Soul_keeper> neck and neck with this other team

23:10 <Soul_keeper> like 1% behind them

23:11 <efc> moo

23:18 <efc> I got this letter back about Arebico. http://home.earthlink.net/~cottongim/Chambliss.jpg

23:18 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/64t6q3> (at home.earthlink.net)

23:46 <Soul_keeper> nice

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