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00:11 <Jester45> does anyone know how to find my account key? i have boinc working on 1 of my machines but the other doesnt work
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00:52 <nickuwo> ?
00:52 <nickuwo> hes long gone...
00:53 <nickuwo> spose its bedtime...
00:53 <nickuwo> laterz
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02:00 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
02:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 68.1°F / 20.1°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Overnight - Mostly clear through early morning...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 60s. Northeast winds around 5 mph...becoming light southeast winds.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Southeast winds around (1 more message)
02:01 <CoderForLife> &more
02:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 5 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 60s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.;
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03:45 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan
03:45 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 92Â°F / 34Â°C | Humidity: 52% | Pressure: 29.83in / 1010hPa | Conditions: | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM KST; Chance of Rain. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:91 ° F. / 33 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.;
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04:58 <CoderForLife> plink 220.127.116.11
04:58 <CoderForLife> morning KathrynM
05:09 <KathrynM> morning CoderForLife
05:11 <CoderForLife> =)
05:25 <CoderForLife> dag nabbit = time to get ready for w@#%
05:26 <CoderForLife> bb on my way out
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06:12 <CoderForLife> on the rims and out the door
06:12 <CoderForLife> laterz
06:14 <KathrynM> have a nice day
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06:51 <hawmps> ip/domain kills >> mail.chonburi.th.com, 18.104.22.168, ns1.cbkn.net
06:53 <hawmps> 'mornin
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08:12 <MTughan> Anyone know where you can get a Mini-ATX power supply?
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08:33 <hawmps> SSi or not?
08:33 <MTughan> Huh?
08:34 <MTughan> And now my power connector for my laptop went dead for the third time...
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09:20 <PovAdct_w> Soul_keeper: my iPod ran out of battery last night
09:21 <PovAdct_w> Soul_keeper: yes I do have a job (at it right now)
09:22 <Soul_keeper> i gotta go to my job RIGHT NOW ttyl
09:22 <PovAdct_w> lol
09:24 <PovAdct_w> also, it seems the same happens with any software project I work on... I think it's easy, (if rewriting someone else's code) I think I can do better, I think I'll write good-quality code, I think I can do it quickly...
09:24 <PovAdct_w> but that's just what I think... in the end, I do write good-quality code, I do begin doing better than the original, but it turns harder than I initially thought, I take way too much time, then lose interest and go after a different shiny ball
09:24 <PovAdct_w> so it's like every month I collect another unfinished project
09:50 <CoderForLife> thx for the "View to the IP Kills", hawmps
09:57 <hawmps> np
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10:29 <KathrynM> anyone here on Fedora 9?
10:29 <dizzie> Hello all :)
10:29 <KathrynM> hiya dizz
10:30 <KathrynM> figured out what my computer problem was
10:30 <dizzie> Yes?
10:30 <Romulus> hmm... Yes is enable, dizzie
10:30 * dizzie kicks Romulus
10:30 <KathrynM> somehow it thought it was part of kdn.ktguide.com
10:30 <KathrynM> I think a hal update borked things.
10:30 <KathrynM> working now tho
10:30 <dizzie> Thats nice
10:31 <KathrynM> yeah, I thought I had either gotten infected with someting or f-ed something up myself
10:31 <dizzie> I ditched Gnome, running Openbox, memusage atm is less than 50MB
10:31 <KathrynM> nice
10:31 <dizzie> Hal is somewhat evil
10:31 <KathrynM> lol
10:31 <KathrynM> thinking of upgrading the box to F9 tho
10:32 <KathrynM> (doesn't every one spend their vacation screwing with their computers, lol)
10:32 <dizzie> Ever concidered giving Free/Open/Net- BSD a try?
10:32 <KathrynM> nope
10:32 <KathrynM> I'm having trouble enough with Linux :)
10:33 <dizzie> Well no, i spend my vacation building a FreeNAS server and my router was dead so i had to replace it. Nice vacation though :)
10:33 <KathrynM> :)
10:33 <dizzie> Well, somewhat FreeBSD is easier.
10:33 <dizzie> Not a zillion configfiles, /etc/rc.conf and /boot/loader.conf :)
10:34 <dizzie> Kernel is one txt file :)
10:34 <KathrynM> ugh, don't remind me, I have to fool with grub
10:34 <dizzie> I dare you :) Go on try
10:34 <KathrynM> lol
10:34 <dizzie> Grub is slow :)
10:34 <KathrynM> grub drives me nuts
10:35 <dizzie> Join the club?
10:35 <dizzie> :P
10:35 <KathrynM> I don't get it. A fedora install trashes other linuxes in grub, but leaves Windows alone. Kubuntu doesn't.
10:35 <KathrynM> I know how to fix it, I've not sat down to do it tho.
10:36 <KathrynM> It's not like I use Kubuntu all that much.
10:36 <dizzie> Can you use the F9 CD/DVD as a "rescue"/"live" CD?
10:36 <dizzie> Then.... grub-install (hdx)
10:36 <KathrynM> lol, yea, I did when I managed to render my system unbootable.
10:38 <dizzie> Reminds me of when i did a cvsup, no kernel was downloaded, so guess what :p
10:38 <KathrynM> uh oh
10:38 <KathrynM> no kernel is bad
10:38 <dizzie> I did a cd boot, jail, mount, compile+copy, etc :)
10:38 <dizzie> Was fun hehe
10:39 <dizzie> I learned my lesson, so i got a mini FreeBSD install on a usb stick :)
10:40 <KathrynM> :)
10:40 <KathrynM> yeah, twice now I've managed to make my system unbootable. both times it was stupid stuff
10:40 <KathrynM> but hey, I learned from it. which I guess is important.
10:41 <PovAdct_w> back in Windows 98, I once made the system unbootable too...
10:41 <PovAdct_w> broke it in a way that wouldn't boot on next reboot, and didn't notice
10:41 <PovAdct_w> then my dad was using it, something hanged (bluescreen I guess, as was common on Win98), he rebooted... didn't boot
10:42 <KathrynM> uh oh
10:42 <dizzie> Uhh black screen, i hate those
10:43 <PovAdct_w> and it was for doing something stupid :P
10:43 <KathrynM> I'm in good company then ;)
10:43 <dizzie> I bricked my macmini this weekend
10:43 <dizzie> Anyone want a $500 brick ?
10:43 <PovAdct_w> I'll buy that for a dollar
10:44 <dizzie> sure, you pay P&P then :p
10:44 <PovAdct_w> I ran an app under DOS mode (Windows backs up autoexec.bat, modifies it to run the app instead of booting Windows, then reboots)
10:45 <dizzie> Not to mention the nice instantreboots when a program barfs and dies
10:45 <PovAdct_w> while Windows was starting to reboot, I changed my mind about a command line switch, so I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Del and killed the app that makes Windows reboot
10:45 <dizzie> No BSOD or anything
10:45 <PovAdct_w> changed the switch, and ran it again
10:45 <PovAdct_w> bad idea
10:45 <dizzie> A bit :)
10:46 <PovAdct_w> on first try, Windows moved autoexec.bat to autoexec.bak (backup), and modified autoexec.bat to run the app, restore backup, and reboot; but I killed it before it rebooted
10:47 <PovAdct_w> on second try, Windows moved the already-modified autoexec.bat to autoexec.bak (overwriting the real backup!)
10:48 <dizzie> Oops :p
10:48 <dizzie> Bit like mv * /dev/null :)
10:48 <KathrynM> eek
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10:51 <dizzie> cvsup from cvs-all takes a while :)
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14:05 <hawmps> Bad day to have the AC out..
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15:21 <hawmps> ip kill >> 22.214.171.124
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15:51 <xcamel> 'lo
15:51 <MTughan> 'lo Jay
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15:53 <xcamel> Hi Mike
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17:13 <xcamel> &wx 12074
17:13 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 73.7°F / 23.2°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 29.84in / 1010.4hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Scattered thunderstorms this evening. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the lower 60s. West winds around 5 mph this evening becoming light. Chance of precipitation 30 percent.; Tuesday - Patchy fog in the (1 more message)
17:13 <xcamel> &more
17:13 <Romulus> xcamel: morning. Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Mostly clear in the evening...then becoming partly cloudy. Lows around 60. West winds up to 5 mph in the evening becoming light.;
17:14 <Jester45> when i first setup boinc i got 8 WU with 4 active. now i have 12, is this because boinc is learning that my computer is able to do more or is it just that it got 12
17:14 <MTughan> You have a quad-core?
17:15 <Jester45> 2 dual cores
17:15 <Jester45> 4 cores total
17:15 <MTughan> Yeah, BOINC's probably finding that it can do more work, or the project just didn't have much work when you first attached.
17:15 <Jester45> rosetta@home if that helps
17:16 <Jester45> it takes about 3 hours per wu
17:17 <MTughan> I don't crunch Rosetta, but I can check how many WUs are available.
17:18 <MTughan> Well, 15,000+ ready to send... Could just be BOINC was seeing how fast your computer was, although I imagine it would've grabbed more for 4 cores.
17:18 <Jester45> it mean it doesnt bother me to much i was just wondering why it was 8 and now 12
17:18 <PovAddict> maybe the estimate was wrong
17:19 <Jester45> i did just get it setup late last night/ early this morning
17:19 <PovAddict> once it finished a WU, it knows how much it really took vs how much the project said it would take; then it used that factor to correct for the rest
17:19 <PovAddict> OR
17:19 <PovAddict> now you got shorter WUs
17:20 <PovAddict> so it's more WUs but same number of hours total :)
17:22 <Jester45> also other than using a caching proxy if there a way to reduce network useage? in a month or so im going to be setting up a lot of machines to crunch... nighttime speed is noproblem but during the day its limited (i will set it to download only around 12:00)
17:22 <Jester45> i love having boinc info displayed via conky
17:22 <PovAddict> caching proxy is the way :)
17:23 <Jester45> or are most data diffrent other than the first downloads
17:23 <PovAddict> depends on the project
17:24 <PovAddict> but as a general rule: first time you attach it downloads the application (which may be big)
17:24 <Jester45> ill be setting up ~10 pentium 4s @2.4ghz about 512mb each that will run pretty much only boinc
17:24 <PovAddict> and maybe also some big files used for *all* workunits
17:24 <Jester45> maybe a few fast p3s or smp p3 systems
17:25 <Jester45> and add maybe 5 core duos
17:25 <Jester45> i wish i could cluster them all but... many will be windows based
17:26 <Jester45> they are computers at my school
17:31 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: 2008-07-28: BOINCstats - Network problems
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18:09 <CoderForLife> greetings
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18:11 <nickuwo> hey
18:15 <CoderForLife> hey there nickuwo
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18:16 <nickuwo> hows the coding going?
18:17 <PovAddict> you mean Coding
18:17 <CoderForLife> been doing PowerPoint slides over the last 3 days =P
18:17 <nickuwo> heh
18:17 <CoderForLife> no Coding, or even coding
18:18 <nickuwo> was the presentation about coding?
18:19 <CoderForLife> well, in a way, yes
18:19 <nickuwo> i c
18:20 <CoderForLife> I'm flying to Hartford CT tomorrow for 2 days of meetings on the strategix plans for our core systems
18:22 <nickuwo> Connecticut eh?
18:23 <CoderForLife> yup
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18:25 <CoderForLife> bbiab
18:26 <xcamel> 'lo Don
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18:31 <nickuwo> gaawd vmware is slow
18:32 <xcamel> lol
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18:38 <CoderForLife> hello Jay =)
18:39 * CoderForLife gets up close and personal with a bowl of double chocolate chip ice cream
18:40 <CoderForLife> my reward for finishing the slides =)
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18:44 <CoderForLife> strategix = strategic
18:45 <CoderForLife> as in "strategery"
19:03 <xcamel> waiting for some iced coffee...
19:14 <xcamel> &ping
19:14 <Romulus> pong
19:14 * KathrynM thinks CoderForLife for send that icecream here
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19:58 <nickuwo> so if I edit the server-side C file like assimilator.C, then do ./configure and make, it should build my assimilator, correct?
19:58 <PovAddict> you don't touch assimilator.C
19:58 <nickuwo> no?
19:58 <Romulus> no is I supposed to, nickuwo
19:59 <PovAddict> to make an assimilator, you write a whole new file (maybe based on sample_assimilator.C) and compile it along with assimilator.C
19:59 <nickuwo> "compile it along with"?
19:59 <PovAddict> compile one, compile the other, link them together
19:59 <PovAddict> or just pass both filenames to g++ to do it in one step
20:00 <nickuwo> hmm
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20:09 <KathrynM> PovAddict, ping
20:10 <PovAddict> pong
20:10 <KathrynM> you've built the manager?
20:10 <PovAddict> synecdoche one; I'm not sure if I tried official BOINC one but should work just as well
20:10 <KathrynM> what do I need in terms of wxwidgets?
20:11 <PovAddict> any idea if you have anything already?
20:11 <KathrynM> no idea
20:11 <PovAddict> type "wx-config" on console
20:11 <PovAddict> usage info -> you have it; command not found -> you don't
20:11 <xcamel> wxw v 2.6, IIRC
20:11 <KathrynM> don't got it
20:11 <KathrynM> (yes, I am an English teacher :/)
20:12 <KathrynM> I don't have it.
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20:20 <KathrynM> You know you're addicted to technology when you use IM to talk to your neighbor...
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20:24 <Soul_keeper> i use irc logs to fill out my timecard for work ...
20:24 <Soul_keeper> whatever time i'm not here, then i'm at work
20:27 <KathrynM> lol
20:32 <CoderForLife> sorry KathrynM = ice cream all gone
20:32 * KathrynM pouts
20:33 <PovAddict> ICE CREAM?
20:33 <PovAddict> where
20:33 <KathrynM> lol
20:33 <KathrynM> hmph. CoderForLife ate it all
20:34 <CoderForLife> bwaa haa ha
20:34 <CoderForLife> it was my reward for finishing the slides
20:35 <CoderForLife> I had to have some incentive for all that w@#%
20:35 <KathrynM> hey. that's great
20:35 <KathrynM> PovAddict, so what do I need to install to get wxwidgets?
20:35 <CoderForLife> the corporate jet takes off at 7:30am
20:35 <PovAddict> name should be wxwidgets-dev or so
20:36 <Romulus> Title: wxWidgets (at www.wxwidgets.org)
20:36 <KathrynM> I see a lot of wxGTK stuff in yum
20:36 <PovAddict> xcamel: can get from yum instead
20:36 <xcamel> www.wxwidgets.org/downloads/
20:36 <KathrynM> but nothing specifically wxwidgets
20:36 <CoderForLife> bbiab - got to pack my toothbrush and a change of undies for my one night trip
20:37 <xcamel> I had to install it from source
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20:37 * Soul_keeper always installs it from source
20:37 <Soul_keeper> infact you can just compile it in it's dir, and tell boinc where it is during a boinc compile
20:37 <xcamel> yup
20:39 <PovAddict> then you need gtk-dev
20:39 <PovAddict> or compile gtk from source too, and gtk dependencies, and...
20:39 <KathrynM> wxGTK-devel.i386 ?]
20:39 <PovAddict> probably
20:39 * KathrynM will try
20:39 <xcamel> that would have most of it...
20:40 <xcamel> wxGTK-gl-2.8.7-2.fc7
20:40 <xcamel> wxPython-devel-126.96.36.199-4.fc7
20:40 <xcamel> wxGlade-0.6.1-1.fc7
20:40 <xcamel> wxBase-2.8.7-2.fc7
20:40 <xcamel> wxGTK-devel-2.8.7-2.fc7
20:40 <xcamel> wxGTK-2.8.7-2.fc7
20:40 <xcamel> wxPython-188.8.131.52-4.fc7
20:40 <Soul_keeper> wxBase-2.8.7-2.fc7 that's what she needs
20:40 <Soul_keeper> shouldn't need the rest
20:41 <PovAddict> the -devel is what she needs to compile BOINC from source
20:41 <PovAddict> which probably has wxGTK as a dependency, and wxGTK probably has wxBase as a dependency
20:41 <Soul_keeper> ok so she's compiling from source ?
20:41 <KathrynM> yes
20:42 <Soul_keeper> yeah i dunno what they put in fedora packages ...
20:43 <PovAddict> compiling BOINC from source, not wxwidgets
20:44 <Soul_keeper> ic
20:44 <KathrynM> is there dev stuff for open ssl?
20:44 <KathrynM> I couldn't find it yesterday
20:44 <KathrynM> got the libcurl dev stuff
20:45 <PovAddict> there should be
20:46 <KathrynM> openssl.i686 : The OpenSSL toolkit ?
20:46 <KathrynM> if so, it's already installed
20:46 <PovAddict> no dev? hmm
20:46 <KathrynM> never mind
20:46 <PovAddict> well, did you try BOINC configure script?
20:46 <KathrynM> i'm obviously blink
20:46 <KathrynM> blind even
20:47 <Soul_keeper> run ./_autosetup first
20:47 <KathrynM> there was a dev package, I just didn't see it
20:47 <KathrynM> I have to do a svn checkout first
20:55 <PovAddict> have phun
20:56 <KathrynM> yeah, I can probably take a nap while it all downloads
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21:07 <nickuwo> hmm g++ is saying MYSQL_ROW has not been declared...
21:07 <nickuwo> I think I forgot to include some dir
21:09 * Soul_keeper installs stuff while he naps sometimes :)
21:09 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977
21:09 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 76.0°F / 24.4°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 29.44in / 996.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming mostly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 58 to 65. Light winds.; Tuesday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 74 to 79 in the (1 more message)
21:09 <Soul_keeper> nap == regular sleep
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21:40 <nickuwo> undefined reference to `DB_APP::DB_APP(DB_CONN*)'
21:40 <nickuwo> dammit
21:40 <PovAddict> add libsched.a to the command
21:40 <nickuwo> with -L or -l
21:41 <nickuwo> or like g++ ramsey.cpp libsched.a -L etc
21:42 <PovAddict> try it and see
21:44 <nickuwo> nice
21:44 <nickuwo> thx
21:44 <nickuwo> what did I just do? did I link it or something?
21:49 <PovAddict> I just printed from a Mac to a printer connected to this Linux machine
21:50 <PovAddict> using Windows printing protocol (samba running here)
21:51 <Jester45> why not use ipp
21:51 <PovAddict> because I need to print from Windows too
21:51 <xcamel> or cups
21:51 <Jester45> windows can print to ipp
21:51 <PovAddict> xcamel: cups uses ipp
21:52 <xcamel> bingo.
21:52 <Jester45> you give it a url like 192.168.0.254:233/printers/printer_name
21:56 <xcamel> laterz..
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22:58 <Soul_keeper> that was a close race
22:58 <Soul_keeper> they had over 10 times as many team members
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