IRC logs of #boinc for Wednesday, 2008-07-30

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00:22 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news July 29, 2008

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02:16 <efc> mooo

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04:27 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 73.0F / 22.8C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.47in / 997.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly cloudy. A slight chance of showers and thunderstorms early. Cloudy with showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 80s. West winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Tonight - Mostly (1 more message)

04:27 <CoderForLife> &more

04:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

04:28 <efc> moo

04:28 <CoderForLife> moo

04:28 <CoderForLife> howdy from Hartford

04:29 <efc> they never showed up to clean my carpet..

04:29 <CoderForLife> slackers

04:30 <efc> so i've got stuff stacked up to the ceiling until they do

04:31 <CoderForLife> blame it on poltergeist

04:34 <efc> If the poltergeist could put everything back that would be great

04:49 <CoderForLife> ask nicely

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05:16 <KathrynM> how's Hartford CoderForLife ?

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06:25 <KathrynM>

06:25 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A webcomic of romance, sarcasm, math, and language - By Randall Munroe (at

06:29 <quail> KathrynM: yeah it a classic

06:29 <quail> &wx ypad

06:29 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 82% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11km/h | Updated: 7:30 PM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Overcast. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Overcast. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Rain. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 F. / 7 C.;

06:31 <hawmps> 'lo

06:35 <quail> g'evening hawmps and all

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06:44 <hawmps> 'lo Q

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08:04 <ELGono>

08:04 <Romulus> Title: Astronomy Picture of the Day (at

08:04 <ELGono> real nice shot today

08:10 <hawmps> IP kill >>

08:30 <quail> hawmps: plunk

08:31 <quail> ELGono: I have that pic set as my desktop inmage atm

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08:34 <KathrynM> nice

08:34 <KathrynM> this is mine

08:34 <KathrynM>

08:34 <Romulus> <> (at

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09:00 <hawmps> really nice pond...

09:00 <KathrynM> it looks nice when the fountains are on.  occasionally there are fish in it too.

09:02 <Didactylos> Are those lilies?

09:02 <KathrynM> dunno

09:02 <Didactylos> Lilies, but not waterlilies. That amused me :-)

09:04 <hawmps> asian irises

09:10 <Didactylos> That is *not* a good search term!

09:22 <zombie67> &xkcd

09:22 <Romulus>

09:22 <KathrynM> it's a good one

09:24 <ELGono> hehe last sentence is best ;)

09:24 <ELGono> reminded me on this one:

09:26 <Soul_keeper> lol

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10:10 <quail> KathrynM: nice pic

10:11 <KathrynM> thanks

10:11 <quail> KathrynM: with the latest xkcd pic, my friend instantly thought of me

10:12 <KathrynM> my brother thought of me

10:12 <quail> cause I got sick of ubuntu auto config and made it know and I am playing around with 'debian from scratch'

10:12 <KathrynM> :)

10:12 <quail> s/know/known

10:13 <quail> debian from scratch is for my mini itx system

10:14 <quail> here is my mini itx system >>>

10:14 <Romulus> <> (at

10:14 <KathrynM> cute

10:14 <quail> and it is really quiet too :-)

10:15 <quail> cause it has no fans in it

10:16 <quail> and it runs on 12 volts too, and I have a couple sealed leadacid batteries here for it too

10:18 <KathrynM> man ld is making my head hurt :(

10:18 <quail> ld?

10:18 <KathrynM> the man page for ld

10:19 <quail> what is ld?

10:19 <KathrynM> ld - The GNU linker

10:20 <KathrynM> I'm working on building boinc

10:20 <KathrynM> actually the manager is making me crazy

10:20 <ELGono> ld on irix really suckz

10:20 <quail> ah kewl

10:21 <KathrynM> it's too late for this.

10:21 <KathrynM> I'll have to read it when I'm fresh.

10:21 <KathrynM> this just solidifies the fact I should stick to teaching English.

10:21 <quail> KathrynM: sounds like you having a day like I did today :-/

10:21 <KathrynM> lol

10:21 <quail> ELGono: g'evening, how are things?

10:21 <KathrynM> I have a lot of days like that

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10:22 <KathrynM> I only tackle insane stuff like this when I'm on vacation.

10:22 <KathrynM> Other people go to the beach...  I compile programs.

10:22 <quail> ditto, I had to have a few hours kip mid afternoon today as I was falling a sleep at the desk

10:24 <ELGono> quail: quite okay, still pretty hot... but a nice festival at weekend..... preparing some new visualz

10:25 <ELGono> testing with 3d generated graphix

10:25 <quail> shweet :-)

10:25 <ELGono> brb just need to go for tabakko

10:26 <quail> k

10:27 <PovAddict>

10:27 <Romulus> <> (at

10:27 <PovAddict> *looks at KathrynM

10:28 <KathrynM> wha?

10:28 <KathrynM> whaddid I do?

10:29 <KathrynM> Ah.

10:29 * KathrynM reads the link

10:29 <KathrynM> Oh well.  Before I decide to bang my head against the wall, I better go to bed.

10:31 <quail> KathrynM: hehe, night night

10:50 <hawmps> laterz...

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13:00 <zombie67> well, there it is.  6.2.14 is official

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13:45 <hawmps> officially what?

13:56 <zombie67> officially released.  no longer "development version"  See here:

13:56 <Romulus> Title: Download BOINC client software (at

14:01 <quail> moaning

14:04 <hawmps> the /dl still says pre-release

14:05 <hawmps> and if you select for multiple  aborts, you still have to click yes for each one.

14:06 <MTughan> That, and the XML error reporting is probably still not in there.

14:45 <Didactylos> hawmps: which download?

15:19 <hawmps>

15:20 <Romulus> <> (at

15:20 <Didactylos> Where exactly does it say pre-release?

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15:52 <PovAddict> in the manager, I think

15:53 <PovAddict> I'll have to try it out and whine about how bad it is .)

16:12 <Didactylos> PovAddict: it really shouldn't.

16:13 <Didactylos> The pre-release string affects every place the name appears, and it was taken out for the beta build. *Someone* would have noticed if it wasn't!

16:14 <MTughan> No, I don't see it anywhere.

16:15 <Didactylos> hawmps?

16:16 <xcamel> yes?

16:16 <Romulus> I guess yes is enable, xcamel

16:16 <PovAddict> [15:04] <hawmps> the /dl still says pre-release

16:16 <PovAddict> where does it?

16:16 <xcamel> oh.. in the help/about

16:18 <MTughan> Not here.

16:19 <MTughan> "Version: 6.2.14" here.

16:22 <xcamel> damn... can't capture the menu.

16:23 <xcamel> click on 'help' and it shows up twice.

16:24 <Didactylos> A screenshot maybe?

16:24 <Didactylos>

16:24 <Romulus> Title: Imagebin - Upload an Image (at

16:25 <xcamel> tried that the menu won't stay open

16:25 <PovAddict> tried print screen key?

16:26 <MTughan> Could be why it doesn't say it for mine. The About dialog is under BOINC->About BOINC

16:28 <xcamel> it's in the help menu in linux

16:28 <PovAddict> it's in the help menu everywhere but Mac

16:29 <MTughan> They've tried at least some platform-specific stuff there.

16:29 <xcamel> I noticed there was no ubunny version

16:30 <MTughan> Probably because it ain't Ubuntu specific.

16:30 <PovAddict> they made the sane rename... the so-called ubuntu version was never specific to ubuntu, it confused some users

16:30 <PovAddict> "I don't have ubuntu, so I'll download the other"

16:30 <PovAddict> "hey where is the manager??"

16:31 <PovAddict> better make everyone download the full (previously-called ubuntu) version first, and only try the other ("compatibility", manager-less) if the normal one doesn't work

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16:38 <xcamel> the 'standard version' now includes the manager

16:38 <PovAddict> yep

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16:44 <xcamel> ip kill >>

16:44 <xcamel> horde2 hack

16:48 <wdsmia_w> bbiab

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16:55 <xcamel> anyway... .14 seems to be working OK

17:12 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news July 30, 2008

17:33 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:40 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

17:40 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

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17:53 <quail> g'morning Doug & Jay

17:58 <wdsmia> *lo q

17:59 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 89.2F / 31.8C | Humidity: 59% | Pressure: 29.77in / 1008.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Isolated thunderstorms after midnight. Patchy fog after midnight. Low in the upper 60s. Southwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of thunderstorms 20 percent.; Thursday - Partly sunny. High in the upper 80s. Southwest (1 more message)

17:59 <wdsmia> &more

17:59 <Romulus> wdsmia: wind 5 to 15 mph.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy with a 30 percent chance of thunderstorms. Low in the lower 70s. South wind 5 to 15 mph.;

17:59 <quail> &wx ypad

17:59 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 54°F / 12°C | Humidity: 72% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 9mph / 15km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:64 F. / 18 C.; Overcast. Low:48 F. / 9 C.; Overcast. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Rain. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 F. / 7 C.;

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18:45 <xcamel> ho hum

18:56 <zombie67> so....are we supposed to be testing 6.3.x now?  I see it on the DL page, but I also seem to recall being told not to test it...

19:06 <nickuwo> when it says on the wiki "download phpmailer and put it under PROJECT/html/inc/phpmailer" do they mean just phpmailer.php?

19:10 <Didactylos> zombie67: I have no idea why they insist on putting internal builds on the download page.

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19:34 <xcamel> 'lo Darr

19:35 <Darr> Hi Jay, how are things tonight?

19:35 <xcamel> things is good

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19:46 <zombie67> so, I take it that means "no", don't test 6.3

19:48 <Darr> you can if you like taking risks, just don't complain when it fries your cpu...

19:48 <xcamel> I have been using one instance of 6.3.3 - not much wrong with it..

19:48 <xcamel> for about a month now

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19:52 <Darr> on a windows or linux system?

19:52 <zombie67> I am not asking if we can use it (at risk).  I am asking if we should be testing it.

19:53 <zombie67> does Rom want us testing 6.3?

19:53 <KathrynM> not until Rom says

19:53 <Darr> officially rom has asked us not to

19:53 <zombie67> that is what I thought.  So then why is it on the DL page?

19:54 <zombie67> I understand it being in the DL directory, but why on the DL page?

19:54 <KathrynM> I wish I knew.

19:54 <KathrynM> I thought that was strange when he posted it and then sent a note not to test it.

19:54 <zombie67> Ah!  So I am not going crazy.

19:54 <KathrynM> nope.

19:54 <KathrynM> me, on the other hand, that's a different story

19:55 <zombie67> can't believe 6.2.14 is an official release

19:55 <zombie67> is there a list of the changes that are in 6.3?

19:56 <KathrynM> As of right now, no where easy

19:56 <KathrynM> You can go through the checkin notes in svn though

19:56 <zombie67> ugh

19:56 <zombie67> no thanks

19:56 <KathrynM> Jord and I will start a thread on the BOINC forums once we have something

19:56 <zombie67> is there a road map showing the planned changes for each version?

19:57 <KathrynM>

19:57 <KathrynM> not particuarly helpful tho

19:57 <zombie67> forbidden

19:57 <KathrynM> you need to log in

19:57 <KathrynM> or create an account and then log in

19:57 <zombie67> :rollseyes:

19:58 <KathrynM> lol

19:58 <zombie67> so there are *NO* changes planned for 6.4

19:58 <Darr> Please stay focused on 6.2.x, the 6.3.x line of clients is not ready for alpha testing.A project is gearing up for testing an application that supports CUDA which will be supported in 6.3/6.4 and so we put up a build so they can continue testing.  After we finish up the 6.2 client well begin testing the 6.3/6.4 line of clients

19:58 <zombie67> and since there are no changes planned for 6.4, there is no need for a 6.3 test version

19:58 <zombie67> so what's it there for?

19:59 <KathrynM> just because there's nothing on that page doesn't mean there's nothing planned

19:59 <KathrynM> for all I know, the page is woefully out of date.

19:59 <zombie67> the site is call TRAC for a damn reason

19:59 <KathrynM> lol

19:59 <Darr> for the testing of CUDA, whatever that is

19:59 <xcamel> oh... linux

20:00 <zombie67> CUDA is graphics

20:00 <zombie67> GPU GRID stuff

20:00 <zombie67> like F@H

20:00 <zombie67> if it isn't written down, there is no plan.

20:01 <zombie67> my tax dollars are being spent on a project that doesn't have a basic, elementary _plan_

20:02 <zombie67> oh, time to feed the dogs

20:04 <CoderForLife> home again

20:04 <zombie67> jiggity jig

20:04 <xcamel> wb

20:04 <CoderForLife> thx - mission accomplished

20:04 <xcamel> you flew right over and never even waved...

20:04 <CoderForLife> I asked the pilot to waggle the wings

20:05 <KathrynM> lol

20:05 <xcamel> hmmm... missed it

20:05 <CoderForLife> maybe it was the clouds

20:05 <CoderForLife> late din-din

20:05 <CoderForLife> bbiab

20:15 <quail> CoderForLife: g'day Don

20:17 <quail> KathrynM: g'day

20:17 <xcamel> up early, Q?

20:18 <KathrynM> hiya quail

20:18 <quail> I have been up since 3am

20:18 <xcamel> eeew..

20:20 <quail> yeah and I have only had a couple hours sleep last night :-/

20:20 <KathrynM> are you channeling me?

20:20 <quail> why?

20:21 <KathrynM> insomnia city over here

20:21 <quail> yeah last couple days have been bit like it for me :-/

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20:22 <CoderForLife> b  thx for the welcome home, folks

20:23 <CoderForLife> wazzup with the wx?

20:23 <quail> CoderForLife: welcome home

20:23 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

20:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 79.3F / 26.3C | Humidity: 70% | Pressure: 29.42in / 996.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Thursday - Mostly cloudy in the morning...then becoming partly sunny. A chance of showers and (1 more message)

20:23 <CoderForLife> &more

20:23 <Romulus> CoderForLife: thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 80s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Thursday Night - Partly cloudy with a slight chance of showers and thunderstorms early in the evening...then mostly clear after midnight. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

20:23 <CoderForLife> we had a very smooth ride from CT to OH

20:24 * CoderForLife checks the wx radar

20:25 <CoderForLife> not that 'm complaining, but I was expecting a bumpy ride

20:25 <CoderForLife> me, either

20:26 <CoderForLife> I saw no towering clouds

20:26 * quail just relised he is dressed in all black :-)

20:26 <CoderForLife> Ozzie Quail

20:27 <CoderForLife> bbiab

20:27 <quail> and my linux conf 2007 tshirt looks great :-)

20:28 <KathrynM> PovAddict, ping

20:36 <CoderForLife> I'm not sure what Ozzie thinks about Linux

20:38 <CoderForLife> I don't think Ozzy is a Linux user; I think he's been just a user.

20:38 <xcamel> no one sure what Ozzie thinks

20:43 <CoderForLife> true, even Ozzy doesn't know what Ozzy thinks

20:50 <CoderForLife> beddy-bye - cya folks here tomorrow

20:57 <xcamel> laterz

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21:45 <Soul_keeper>

21:45 <Romulus> <> (at

21:48 <PovAddict> KathrynM: pong

21:49 <PovAddict> zombie67, Darr: 6.3 main new feature is experimental support for cuda; you need it if you run GPUGRID but that's it

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22:20 <Soul_keeper> &urbandict

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22:20 <Soul_keeper> &urbandict teabag

22:20 <PovAddict> &urbandict word

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22:21 <PovAddict> o great

22:21 <Soul_keeper> &dict teabag

22:21 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: No definition for "teabag" could be found.

22:22 <PovAddict> <- maybe that's the meaning you look for?

22:22 <Romulus> Title: Ctrl+Alt+Del (at

22:23 <Soul_keeper> lol

22:23 <MTughan> That's great...

22:24 <Soul_keeper> excellent

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