IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-08-05

01:31 <Soul_keeper> ok people

01:32 <efc> moo

02:04 <quail> &wx ypad

02:04 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 56°F / 13°C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.28in / 1025hPa | Conditions: Light Rain Showers | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 5mph / 7km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM CST; Chance of Rain. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Partly Cloudy. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Chance of Rain. High:53 F. / 12 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:39 F. / 4 (1 more message)

02:04 <quail> afternoon all

02:09 <Soul_keeper> good work

02:09 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

02:09 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 67.8F / 19.9C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.50in / 998.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 3.1mph / 5.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 64 to 69. Light winds.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy. Highs 80 to 85 in the western valleys to 88 to 93 near the foothills. Light winds.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 60 to (1 more message)

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02:45 <efc> &weather 31088

02:45 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 78F / 26C | Humidity: 79% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 70s. Light and variable winds.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 90s. Heat index readings 102 to 106. West winds up to 10 mph.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 70s. Light and variable (1 more message)

02:46 <efc> &more

02:46 <Romulus> efc: winds.;

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03:04 <quail> downloading work units from seti atm is pita

03:05 <Soul_keeper> they probably have too many users

03:05 <quail> all my work units are retrying to download

03:10 <efc> mine seem stuck too

03:10 <Soul_keeper> flip them the bird and do another project

03:11 <efc> i'm not too concerned if they are sticky 1% of the time

03:11 <quail> even my uploads are stuck

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03:31 <efc> unstuck now

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03:52 <efc> EXTRA BURST OF FRESHNESS

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04:16 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:16 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 72.3F / 22.4C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 29.61in / 1002.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Tonight - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tuesday - Partly sunny with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. (1 more message)

04:17 <CoderForLife> &more

04:17 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Highs in the lower 90s. West winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent. Heat index values up to 100 in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the upper 60s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.;

04:29 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

04:38 <CoderForLife> b

04:44 <CoderForLife> &dict wittici

04:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: No definition for "wittici" could be found.

04:44 <CoderForLife> &dict witticism

04:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, devils, gcide, and moby-thes responded: devils: WITTICISM, n. A sharp and clever remark, usually quoted, and seldom noted; what the Philistine is pleased to call a "joke."; wn: witticism n : a message whose ingenuity or verbal skill or incongruity has the power to evoke laughter [syn: {wit}, {humor}, {humour}, {wittiness}]; gcide: Witticism \Wit"ti*cism\, n. [From {Witty}.] A (3 more messages)

05:25 <quail> &currency convert 99 eur aud

05:25 <Romulus> quail: 99.00 eur = 166.97 aud

05:27 <quail> &currency convert 99 stl aud

05:27 <Romulus> quail: Error: You used an incorrect currency symbol.

05:28 <quail> &currency convert 99 GBP aud

05:28 <Romulus> quail: 99.00 gbp = 210.72 aud

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05:42 <quail> &currency convert 280.00 EUR aud

05:42 <Romulus> quail: 280.00 eur = 472.16 aud

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06:24 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:24 <CoderForLife> cya boincers

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06:46 <hawmps> 'lo

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09:37 <Didactylos> "This is a wiki, so if anyone has any clarifications or improvements

09:37 <Didactylos> thay are welcome make them."

09:37 <Didactylos> Hahahahahahaaa...... my aching sides....

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09:46 <KathrynM> ok smart people....  sendmail or postfix?

09:47 <KathrynM> which do you like and why?

09:47 <Didactylos> I use postfix. Setting it up is a bitch, but I've had no problems in operation. (Touch wood)

09:48 <Didactylos> (FreeBSD. YMMV)

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10:02 <hawmps> postfix. absolutely.

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11:04 <jackygrahamez> Hi :-)

11:05 <jackygrahamez> &wx 20001

11:05 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: Temperature: 88.2F / 31.2C | Humidity: 51% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; This Afternoon - Partly sunny with scattered showers and thunderstorms. Highs in the lower 90s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 40 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with scattered showers and thunderstorms. Lows in (1 more message)

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11:26 <jackygrahamez> &more

11:26 <Romulus> jackygrahamez: the lower 70s. West winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph...increasing to 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.;

11:27 <hawmps> you see the video of the storm that hit the cubs game last night?

11:27 <hawmps> tornado warning at wrigley field

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12:06 <jackygrahamez> what happened?

12:09 <quail_linux> net split

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12:17 <Tank_Master> {global notice} Good day all, it looks like one of our sponsors had some routing problems. Thank you all for your patience, and thank you for using freenode!

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12:50 <becker_11> Hi I'm running Boinc under debian etch and I've lost some of the menu options which are there on my windows xp box .....

12:50 <becker_11> why is there a difference and how can I correct it?

12:51 <Didactylos> becker_11: Sure. Let me just read your mind....

12:53 <becker_11> Didactylos:  it seems the debian build from the repositorys has been built from source with some of the menu options namely the preferences and the grid view, simple view, accessable view options are mkissing also I can't sort by clicking the col,oums

12:54 <Didactylos> Maybe you have a really, really old version. What version is it?

12:54 <becker_11> Is this what I have to put up with cause I installed it from debian repos or can it be sorted

12:54 <Didactylos> Sounds like 5.4/5.6

12:54 <becker_11> 5.4.11

12:54 <yoyo_RKN> it is very old

12:54 <Didactylos> The latest version is available in some repository or other.

12:55 <Didactylos> But the Etch repository?

12:55 <yoyo_RKN> what is the boinc version on your windows box?

12:55 <Didactylos> I don't do Debian, but that sounds ooooooold.

12:55 <becker_11> yoyo_RKN:  the latest 6 something just updated it a few days ago

12:55 <becker_11> Didactylos:  what version are you using?

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12:56 <yoyo_RKN> thats because they differ

12:56 <Didactylos> On the other hand, few useful features have been added since 5.4 (and a lot of shiny new bugs)

12:56 <yoyo_RKN> old bugs where replaced with new ones

12:56 <KathrynM> don't want the bugs to get stale

12:57 <Didactylos> yoyo_RKN: only by accident. I'm sure there are some ancient bugs lurking in there.

12:57 <Didactylos> Well, I know there are! :-)

12:59 <becker_11> Anyone here running linux who can tell me what the version num is

12:59 <yoyo_RKN> you should install a newer version on your Debian

13:00 <KathrynM> heh, as with most things Linux, it depends

13:01 <becker_11> The boinc site says 6.2.14 is the latest for all platforms so I'll install that one then

13:01 <KathrynM> you'll have to install it by hand then

13:01 <becker_11> yeah no prob

13:02 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download.php

13:02 <Romulus> Title: BOINC: compute for science (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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13:29 <desti> http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20080804fact.htm

13:29 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5b4m5b> (at www.intel.com)

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16:45 <CoderForLife> hmm

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16:46 <CoderForLife> home - dinner - bbiab

17:02 <xcamel> soprk >> 62.141.56.160

17:04 <CoderForLife> soprked - thx

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17:26 <wdsmia_> re-hi

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18:05 <CoderForLife> re-hi 2 u wdsmia

18:05 <KathrynM> morning CoderForLife

18:05 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM =)

18:06 <KathrynM> 6.2.14 has been demoted

18:06 <CoderForLife> awww

18:06 <KathrynM> Not sure why Mac and Linux was demoted.  I think it's mainly a windows problem.

18:06 <CoderForLife> isn't it always?

18:06 <KathrynM> lol

18:07 <Didactylos> Over the boinctray thing?

18:07 <Didactylos> Always thought that was a disastrous approach to take.

18:07 <KathrynM> That's the only reason I can figure out.

18:07 <KathrynM> No Windows for me at home.

18:07 <KathrynM> And I'm not going to upgrade the work box.

18:07 <CoderForLife> smart

18:07 <KathrynM> They let me run BOINC on it, but I don't think they'd like a bunch of new accounts.

18:08 <PovAddict> is anyone there smart enough to notice new hidden accounts?

18:08 <PovAddict> also

18:08 <PovAddict> you said the w-word

18:08 <KathrynM> it's early

18:08 <KathrynM> I've not had a decent night's sleep in a while

18:08 <KathrynM> I humbly apolgize for using the w-word

18:08 * CoderForLife finished up a draft e-mail to his neighbors, informing them of the impending dump truck invasion

18:09 <KathrynM> and no PovAddict I doubt anyone there is smart enough to notice hidden accounts.

18:09 <KathrynM> they can't keep the damn boxes free from malware

18:09 <CoderForLife> an impending disturbance in the Force, I see

18:09 <KathrynM> (I mean, how hard is it, really?)

18:09 <PovAddict> somebody should make a BOINC project for that

18:10 <KathrynM> only a slight disturbance

18:10 <CoderForLife> sure - promises, promises

18:10 <PovAddict> Spybot S&D as one of the science apps

18:10 <KathrynM> lol

18:10 <KathrynM> come to think of it, I don't think Norton (at least I think it's norton, shudder) hasn't been running on the one box for quite a while

18:11 <PovAddict> double negative - head asplode

18:11 <KathrynM> yes, I am an English teacher

18:12 <KathrynM> lol...

18:12 <KathrynM> There are lots of different geek languages, and sendmail.cf is all on it's own. :-)

18:13 <PovAddict> "The great thing about Apache mod_rewrite is it gives you all the configurability and flexibility of Sendmail. The downside to mod_rewrite is that it gives you all the configurability and flexibility of Sendmail."

18:13 <KathrynM> lol

18:13 <KathrynM> Eric wants to change me from sendmail to postfix

18:13 * KathrynM is scared

18:14 * KathrynM knows nothing about either postfix or sendmail

18:14 <PovAddict> everyone seems to recommend me that

18:14 <CoderForLife> thats one of my favorite quotes

18:14 <CoderForLife> I use Sendmail

18:14 <CoderForLife> I also use mod_rewrite

18:14 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: "Despite the tons of examples and docs, mod_rewrite is voodoo. Damned cool voodoo, but still voodoo."

18:15 <CoderForLife> yup =)

18:15 <CoderForLife> I have us using it at w@#% - damn strong medicine

18:16 <CoderForLife> good for URLs that ail you

18:16 <PovAddict> "If it ain't broke, you haven't tweaked it enough yet."

18:16 <KathrynM> hey, that's my motto

18:16 <PovAddict> "All threads degenerate towards a reference to Adolph Hitler, or BOINC Credit" -- Paul D. Buck

18:16 <CoderForLife> "DOS isn't done until Lotus won't run"

18:17 <KathrynM> The wise Paul D. Buck

18:17 <PovAddict> "In Vegas, I got into a long argument with the man at the roulette wheel over what I considered to be an odd number."

18:17 <Didactylos> 42 is pretty darn weird. But is it odd?

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18:26 <xcamel> re-hi

18:29 <CoderForLife> hi - there you are

18:30 <CoderForLife> was wonderin'

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18:31 <xcamel> back from my walk

18:39 <xcamel> looks like some really nasty weather coming in overnight..

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19:04 <xcamel> worst thing is that my sinuses are telling me they're going to be rough.

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19:42 <Soul_keeper> http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12581

19:42 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5v7c3w> (at www.dailytech.com)

19:42 <PovAddict> &web title http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=12581

19:42 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5v7c3w> (at www.dailytech.com)

19:42 <Romulus> PovAddict: DailyTech - Military Using Robots More than Ever

19:42 <CoderForLife> back

19:43 <KathrynM> &wx ulsan

19:43 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 73°F / 23°C | Humidity: 89% | Pressure: 29.86in / 1011hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Clear. Low:75 F. / 24 C.; Clear. High:89 F. / 32 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:91 F. / 33 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:75 F. / 24 C.;

19:43 <CoderForLife> finished my e-mail to the neighbors

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19:44 * CoderForLife looks at xcamel's impending weather

19:44 <CoderForLife> moo

19:44 <efc> Hey

19:46 <CoderForLife> yeah, if that gets a little more organized, you're in for a rough ride xcamel

19:46 * efc Fedex's Xcamel his ZPM

19:48 <efc> Oops, I think it was the empty one.

19:51 <CoderForLife> a zero ZPM

19:52 * CoderForLife works on a bit of Code - to see why his MD5 hash is generating a slightly incorrect result

19:53 * PovAddict pulls an answer out his butt

19:53 <CoderForLife> ewww

19:53 <PovAddict> you're opening the file in text mode under Windows, which is converting newlines, making the data different, making the hash different

19:53 <CoderForLife> nice try

19:53 <PovAddict> (converting newlines and stopping at first sight of a Ctrl-Z character, which is EOF on MSDOS)

19:54 <CoderForLife> I am not passing newlines into the hash input

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19:54 <CoderForLife> not reading a file, per se

19:54 <PovAddict> single-line text?

19:55 <CoderForLife> information I've parsed from another source, outputting and XML file, and a <hash> of the previous nodes

19:55 <CoderForLife> an* XML file

19:56 <CoderForLife> I think the problem is a backslash in a Windows ACL descriptor

19:57 <xcamel> oh.. there you are

19:57 <CoderForLife> it may be getting interpretedby the MD5 input routine as an escape character

19:57 <CoderForLife> lol  xcamel

19:57 <CoderForLife> you knew it all along

19:58 <CoderForLife> you've been holding out on me =)

19:58 <xcamel> had to fix up the wifey's ipod/itunes/imac issues..

19:59 <CoderForLife> you mean to say Apple has issues?

20:00 <xcamel> like trying to explain warp physics to a duck.

20:01 <efc> Consult your handy storeroom full of DEC manuals for all the answers you'll need.

20:01 * CoderForLife glances over at his DEC manuals

20:03 * xcamel kicks the PDP-11 binder..

20:03 <efc> Welcome to the office of futures past.

20:03 * CoderForLife blows the dust off his RSX-!!M green bar printed user's guide

20:03 <CoderForLife> er 11M

20:04 * CoderForLife pries the shift key off his keyboard

20:12 <PovAddict> hmm

20:12 <CoderForLife> mmh

20:12 <PovAddict> how many people would nowadays have a Java runtine environment older than 1.5?

20:12 <PovAddict> runtime*

20:12 <CoderForLife> we have about a dozen production applications at w@#% running 1.4

20:13 * Soul_keeper only uses java for a single financial application

20:13 <Soul_keeper> i must keep it up to date

20:13 <Soul_keeper> otherwise it has issues

20:14 <Soul_keeper> if i didn't have to use java for that i'd probably never install java for anything else

20:14 <CoderForLife> we have very little on 1.5, and nothing on 6

20:15 <PovAddict> I was going to use 1.4 for compatibility, but I'll miss parametrized types

20:15 <Soul_keeper> it's odd what they change, it's like every version will make a program look/act different

20:15 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: they try to justify their paycheck

20:15 <Soul_keeper> the best policy is to use the version your particular program was written for

20:15 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, indeed

20:16 <PovAddict> Soul_keeper: I meant I was going to write my program to be compatible with 1.4

20:16 <Soul_keeper> they still havn't managed to make it stable yet tho

20:16 <Soul_keeper> just as unstable as it was 5yrs ago

20:16 <PovAddict> but I'm not sure if it's worth the... lack of parametrized types :)

20:17 <CoderForLife> again, 1.4 is the lifeblood of some critical apps

20:17 <Soul_keeper> might as well just go with the latest i'd think

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20:21 <CoderForLife> lookee there

20:21 <CoderForLife> hello Houdi_Elbow

20:21 <Houdi_Elbow> Hello folks

20:22 <KathrynM> whoa.  heya Houdi_Elbow

20:22 <CoderForLife> what brings you to this delightful corner of boincdom this evening?

20:22 <Houdi_Elbow> I took a wrong turn...

20:22 <Soul_keeper> creepy

20:22 <Houdi_Elbow> :)

20:23 <KathrynM> I thought I told you to get a map.

20:23 <CoderForLife> I can help you out - which way did you come in?

20:23 <KathrynM> Men...

20:23 <KathrynM> They never ask for directions.

20:23 <Houdi_Elbow> A what...

20:23 <KathrynM> &dict map

20:23 <Romulus> KathrynM: wn, foldoc, gcide, vera, and moby-thes responded: vera: MAP Maintenance Analysis Procedure (IBM); vera: MAP Manufacturing Automation Protocol (General Motors); vera: MAP Mobile Application Part (MSC, GSM, mobile-systems); foldoc: MAP 1. <protocol> {Manufacturing Automation Protocol}. 2. {Mathematical Analysis without Programming}. (1996-12-01); foldoc: map 1. <mathematics> (12 more messages)

20:23 <PovAddict> hi Houdi_Elbow

20:23 <PovAddict> hmm nickname doesn't sound familiar

20:23 <CoderForLife> Map - an output from a link editor

20:23 <Houdi_Elbow> Now I'm confused...

20:23 <KathrynM> And that's something new?

20:24 <Houdi_Elbow> Hi Pov

20:24 <Houdi_Elbow> Nope..

20:24 <xcamel> I read "Houdini Elbow" - lol

20:24 <zombie67> odd....BOINC is now working again on my Mac.  the only change was the installation of the latest Apple security patch

20:24 <CoderForLife> double-jointed =)

20:24 <Houdi_Elbow> :)

20:24 <Houdi_Elbow> I wish

20:25 <KathrynM> man, Keith gets on and I have to go to w&@^

20:25 <KathrynM> just my luck

20:25 <Houdi_Elbow> I see any excuse

20:25 <CoderForLife> we'll try to keep him from making a mess of things

20:25 <Houdi_Elbow> :)

20:25 <quail_linux> 'morning all

20:25 <Houdi_Elbow> Me?

20:25 <KathrynM> Please.  I don't want to have to clean up this place when I come back.

20:27 <CoderForLife> OK - we'll keep an eye on him - go in peace

20:27 <Houdi_Elbow> I'll wipe my feet on the way out...

20:27 <CoderForLife> wb quail_linux

20:27 <CoderForLife> Keith stopped in to humor us

20:28 <Houdi_Elbow> I did?

20:28 <CoderForLife> why us would you drop in on us charity cases?

20:28 <CoderForLife> I just assumed...

20:28 <Houdi_Elbow> Damn....wish I'd put some clothes on now...

20:28 <PovAddict> assumptions make an ass of u and... mumptions

20:29 <CoderForLife> lol

20:29 <KathrynM> laters all

20:29 <Houdi_Elbow> You charity cases..I came here looking for inspiration...

20:29 <CoderForLife> I thought that *was* the humor

20:29 <Houdi_Elbow> OK Kath

20:30 <CoderForLife> "A man walks into a BOINC chat room with no clothes on..."

20:30 <xcamel> romy already empties the ashtrays and takes out the empties... what else could you want...

20:30 <Houdi_Elbow> If you put it that way..a beer?

20:31 <xcamel> ...and doesn't care about 'clothing optional'

20:31 <CoderForLife> "he walks up the the bartender and says..."

20:31 <PovAddict> is Romulus wearing anything? :|

20:31 <Houdi_Elbow> :)

20:32 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: "two men walk into a bar, one tells the other 'what is this, a joke?'"

20:32 <CoderForLife> heh

20:34 <Houdi_Elbow> So I went to the dentist. He said, "Say Aaah." I said, "Why?"

20:35 <Houdi_Elbow> He said, "My dog's died."

20:35 <Houdi_Elbow> Well it made me laugh.

20:36 <Houdi_Elbow> Damn...must tell that one next time I need to empty a rooom....

20:37 <quail_linux> CoderForLife: thx, have I been dropping in and out?

20:37 <Houdi_Elbow> Or a room even

20:37 <Soul_keeper> http://www.plasticnipple.com/images/forums/attention_whore_beach.jpg

20:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/akeb7> (at www.plasticnipple.com)

20:40 <CoderForLife> quail_linux: no, just [20:26] quail_linux: 'morning all

20:40 <CoderForLife> the room isn't empty - it's full of crickets

20:42 <quail_linux> CoderForLife: :-)

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20:44 <quail> that better

20:48 <wdsmia> *lo Keith

20:49 <Houdi_Elbow> Aye up..

20:50 <CoderForLife> about time to invoke the CoderForLife.sleep() method

20:51 <CoderForLife> gn boinclanders - you too, Houdi_Elbow

20:51 <wdsmia> cya Don

20:51 <Houdi_Elbow> OK..take care

20:51 <CoderForLife> cya Doug

20:51 <xcamel> Eureka coming on..

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20:52 <wdsmia> Food is on the table bbiab

20:53 <Houdi_Elbow> Time for me to slip away...got two hounds that need walking....good to talk with you guys.

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20:55 <xcamel> buh-by

21:17 <quail> damn I have a doctors appointment this morning

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21:58 <Zeeno> &weather 39110

21:58 <Romulus> Zeeno: Temperature: 83F / 28C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds 5 to 10 mph becoming light and variable.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny in the morning...then becoming partly cloudy. Highs near 95. West winds around 5 mph.; Wednesday Night - Mostly clear. (1 more message)

21:59 <Zeeno> &more

21:59 <Romulus> Zeeno: Lows in the lower 70s. Southwest winds around 5 mph becoming light and variable.;

22:00 <zombie67> hah!  6.2.* is back to "may be unstabel"

22:00 <zombie67> i love eureka

22:00 <PovAddict> zombie67: yes, after problems were found with user activity detection

22:00 <zombie67> yeah, I am on the lists.

22:01 <zombie67> but then why leave .14 still ther?

22:01 <zombie67> there?

22:01 <Romulus> there is a whole set from futureama too, zombie67

22:01 <PovAddict> who knows

22:01 <zombie67> but is .15 fixes it, then 6.2.15 should now be listed as a stable version

22:02 <PovAddict> nope, both .14 and .15 have the same problem

22:02 <zombie67> but if

22:02 <zombie67> geeze, don't check email for a couple of hours...and all hell breaks lose

22:03 <zombie67> does the bug cause work to now stop, or to not resume?

22:04 <PovAddict> not to stop, I think; it never notices user is active

22:04 <zombie67> okay, I don't care about that bug.  I have my prefs to always crunch, anyway

22:05 <PovAddict> yeah me too

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22:17 <zombie67> how can one tell, by looking at the manager, wether BOINC is running as a service or not?

22:19 <Soul_keeper> javascript is giving me a hard time

22:19 <Zeeno> you should see it in the task manager

22:19 <Soul_keeper> all i want to do is save an image that is being displayed on a javascripte heavy polish website

22:20 <Soul_keeper> can't find it anywhere in the html source

22:20 <Soul_keeper> and can't browse around their webserver either because directory listing is denied

22:20 <zombie67> no, not the task manager

22:20 <zombie67> in the boinc manager

22:21 <zombie67> there should be some visiual clue

22:22 <zombie67> file->exit does two different things regular vs. service.  one should be able to know what is actually doing

22:42 <Soul_keeper> FF  "page info"  comes in really handy

22:43 <Soul_keeper> can preview all links/media/etc. of any website and save/download them from it if needed

22:43 <Soul_keeper> like i was supposed to know where php image 1472 or whatever is stored on their server ...

22:45 <PovAddict> maybe the Exit menu item should change name (or at the very least the status bar text when hovering) depending on what it will do

22:45 <PovAddict> close manager or close manager&client

22:49 <zombie67> exactly.  when one selects file->exit, one assumes you have just KILLED it

22:49 <zombie67> no so with BOINC/service

22:49 <PovAddict> or remote client

22:50 <zombie67> i have never used that function

22:50 <zombie67> I use VNC to each of my machines

22:50 <PovAddict> or if you started the core client (not as service) by hand (more common on Unixes)

22:50 <zombie67> TRVTH

22:50 <Soul_keeper> what kind of unit is a  kPa  ?

22:50 <PovAddict> the logic is: manager kills client when you use File->Exit, if it was the manager that started the client

22:51 <zombie67> anyway, if the client is running as a service, the menu should be different, or the manager should at least have some visiual clue.  color...icon...something

22:52 <zombie67> that is bad logic.  if the manager is running, it should take over ownership of everything.

22:53 <Soul_keeper> &dict kPa

22:53 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: No definition for "kPa" could be found.

22:54 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 31 kPa to psi

22:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 4.49616986964

22:54 <Soul_keeper> :)

22:54 <Soul_keeper> &math convert 5 psi to kPa

22:54 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: 34.4737864658

22:55 <PovAddict> zombie67: client start and quit pseudo-code, so simple even a non-programmer will get it: http://pastebin.com/d61ff21f4

22:58 <zombie67> yeah, even i can see what that does

23:04 <PovAddict> and of course, connecting to a remote client resets client_started_by_manager to 'no'

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23:22 <Soul_keeper> &urbandict FTW

23:22 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.

23:22 <Soul_keeper> &dict FTW

23:23 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: No definition for "FTW" could be found.

23:23 <Soul_keeper> PovAddict, tell me

23:23 <PovAddict> lol

23:23 <PovAddict> curiosity killed the cat :)

23:23 <PovAddict> good night

23:24 <Soul_keeper> what i figured, "for the win"

23:25 <Soul_keeper> you people fail to help me educate myself :(

23:25 <PovAddict> yes and a friend says it stands for "f-ck the what"

23:25 <PovAddict> (wtf backwards)

23:26 <Soul_keeper> nice

23:27 <Soul_keeper> i knew your were the resident forum troll :)

23:27 <Soul_keeper> http://sterlingdesktops.com/waterblocks/         i just accumulated pictures of the top 6 different water blocks

23:27 <Romulus> Title: Index of /waterblocks (at sterlingdesktops.com)

23:28 <Soul_keeper> swiftech is supposedly bring a new one out on the 11th

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