IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-08-17

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05:10 <CoderForLife> plink - 10,212 attempted FTP hacks

05:10 <KathrynM> mornin CoderForLife

05:10 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

05:11 <CoderForLife> how  are you?

05:11 <KathrynM> meh

05:11 <CoderForLife> that's the same thing Jord said yesterday

05:12 <CoderForLife> he must know Korean too

05:12 <KathrynM> I've taught him a thing or two

05:13 <CoderForLife> I believe it

05:13 <CoderForLife> not looking good for FL

05:14 <Romulus> <> (at

05:14 <KathrynM> eej

05:14 <KathrynM> eek

05:18 <KathrynM> CoderForLife, is there a better way?

05:18 <Romulus> Title: general pastebin - Untitled - post number 1175651 (at

05:19 <CoderForLife> does it work?

05:19 <KathrynM> I think so.

05:19 <KathrynM> I have to wait until someone leaves/joins the team to know for sure

05:20 <CoderForLife> then it's fine - don't worry be happy

05:20 <KathrynM> lol

05:21 <CoderForLife> have you received an e-mail yet with the changes?

05:22 <KathrynM> I got an empty email at 6.

05:22 <KathrynM> but that didn't surprise me

05:22 <KathrynM> so at least the mail part is working :)

05:22 <CoderForLife> can you force a difference between yesterday and today to see is the changes come through?

05:23 <CoderForLife> is=if

05:23 <KathrynM> good idea

05:24 <CoderForLife> sometimes redirecting mail content into a mail client doesn't work exactly like you might think

05:24 <KathrynM> worked prefectly

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05:24 <CoderForLife> excellent - good job

05:24 <KathrynM> I still have this nagging feeling there's a better way and what I wrote is *really* ugly

05:25 <CoderForLife> doesn't matter - what's worse is lazy computers - make them do the work

05:25 <CoderForLife> that's what boinc is all about

05:26 <KathrynM> :)

05:26 <CoderForLife> you've done your job - taken the time to explain to the computer what is to be done

05:32 <CoderForLife> if the computer starts taking too long to do his job, then you may want to take some time to explain to it how to do it's task easier/faster

05:32 <KathrynM> lol

05:33 <KathrynM> I figure it takes all of about 10 seconds to run, the biggest time going to get the data from the web :)

05:33 <CoderForLife> sounds fine

05:34 <CoderForLife> this going to be a cron task?

05:34 <KathrynM> yup

05:34 <CoderForLife> good

05:34 <KathrynM> Just need to modify it to get the data from the other projects where I'm now a founder

05:34 <KathrynM> I'm sure there's a way to do it all in one script, but I'm not that talented

05:35 <CoderForLife> separating big jobs into small tasks is the stuff of legend - ask Henry Ford

05:36 <KathrynM> very true

05:36 <CoderForLife> K.I.S.S.

05:36 <KathrynM> I embody the last S of that

05:37 <CoderForLife> I hear it's communicable

05:45 <CoderForLife> your script reminded me to set up a weekly backup of my iptables

05:46 <KathrynM> I try to be helpful

05:46 <CoderForLife> DATE=`date '+%Y-%m-%d'`; cd /home/me; /sbin/iptables-save > iptables-$DATE.txt

05:50 <CoderForLife> that'll run every Monday morning at 1:00am

05:50 <KathrynM> nice

05:50 <CoderForLife> speaking of running - brb  breakfast

05:59 <CoderForLife> b

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08:06 <xcamel> 'lo

08:19 <CoderForLife> hello Jay

08:22 <CoderForLife> looks like they're predicting Fay to slow and weaken a bit

08:23 <xcamel> haven't really looked at it yet..

08:23 <CoderForLife> here's what I just looked at

08:23 <Romulus> <> (at

08:23 <xcamel> finally went to see batman last night. it was pretty good.

08:24 <CoderForLife> I haven't seen it yet - too much going on here

08:24 <CoderForLife> Stephen saw it when he was in Chelmsford a couple of weeks ago

08:24 <CoderForLife> said it was very good

08:25 <xcamel> looks like fay isn't really going to reach hurricane status

08:25 <CoderForLife> right - that changed this morning

08:26 <CoderForLife> it's projected path has straightened out through GA

08:28 <xcamel>

08:28 <Romulus> <> (at

08:28 <xcamel> seems it hasn't cleared cuba yet either..

08:29 <CoderForLife> right

08:29 <CoderForLife> they're ordering vacationers out of the Keys

08:31 <xcamel> just doesn't look all that bad to me.

08:31 <CoderForLife> time will tell, of course

08:31 <CoderForLife> expecting the A/C guy this morning - the central air stopped working

08:32 <xcamel> uh-oh

08:32 <CoderForLife> ifit's not a quick maintenance fix, then I call the home warranty folks

08:32 <CoderForLife> if it's*

08:32 <xcamel> what's not working?

08:33 <CoderForLife> doesn't sound like the unit outside is "doing any work"

08:33 <xcamel> checked filters?

08:33 <CoderForLife> blowing cool air out the top

08:33 <CoderForLife> about a month ago

08:33 <CoderForLife> didn't pull it yesterday

08:34 <xcamel> interior coils not frozen up?

08:34 <CoderForLife> saw no ice

08:34 <xcamel> sight glass in the return line to the compressor?

08:34 <CoderForLife> dunno if there is one

08:35 <CoderForLife> the A/C guy was worried about the compressor when he serviced it in June

08:35 <xcamel> can you see if the bullet shaped liquid line filter near the compressor outside is frosted up?

08:36 <CoderForLife> I am not aware of such a thing, didn't notice anything outside yesterday

08:36 <CoderForLife> my guy will be here sometime after 9:30 this morning

08:36 <xcamel> it would be inside the box - next to the compressor, on the smaller copper line

08:37 <CoderForLife> I didn't open the outside unit

08:37 <xcamel> you can see it looking down from the top..

08:37 <CoderForLife> that would take about a 6 foot step ladder on the edge of the landslide

08:38 <xcamel> the service man is going to love you...

08:38 <CoderForLife> why?

08:39 <CoderForLife> look at my pic 1729

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08:40 <CoderForLife> if it's more than "maintenance" or more than $55 to fix, then I pay him the service call for the diagnosis, and call the home warranty folks

08:41 <xcamel> list the link

08:43 <xcamel> ah yess.

08:43 <xcamel> those trane units are pretty solid though - I think it's just low on gas

08:44 <CoderForLife> we just recharged it in June

08:44 <CoderForLife> and charged it last Labor Day

08:44 <xcamel> then it's the line filter/dryer

08:44 <xcamel> or a tiny leak

08:45 <CoderForLife> it may need gas - if it does we have a leak

08:47 <CoderForLife> didn't see any icing that would indicate low gas

08:47 <xcamel> those new sniffers find leaks as small as 20ppm

08:48 <CoderForLife> I'll ask him about sniffing for a leak - how do those get repaired?

08:49 <CoderForLife> patch, or cut and splice?

08:52 <xcamel> usually re-soldering a joint, but it takes sucking out all the r-22 after they find it

08:53 <CoderForLife> ah OK

08:53 <CoderForLife> sum phun

08:55 <xcamel> they just draw a vacuum, and pump it all back in when done.

09:03 <CoderForLife> as it turns out, if I had wanted to go to the weekend Java symposium, I wouldn't have been able to spend muh time there

09:03 * KathrynM yawns

09:04 <KathrynM> bed time for me

09:04 <KathrynM> night to my favorite boinc-ers

09:04 <CoderForLife> nighty-night

09:16 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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10:51 <CoderForLife> A/C is fixed

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10:52 <Tank_Master> nice

10:53 <CoderForLife> the wire from the contactor to the starting capacitor for both the fan and compressor was burnt off, so they couldn't start - replaced the wire connector, and topped off the freon

10:53 <CoderForLife> viola - cool air

10:53 <Tank_Master> lol

10:54 <Tank_Master> couldnt you just stand there and make the connection yourself?

10:54 <CoderForLife> after calling the guy out on Sunday morning?

10:55 <CoderForLife> he got a phone call from another customer begging him not to cash the $4000 check he sent

10:55 <Tank_Master> like he cares

10:56 <CoderForLife> he just had to say sorry dude - already cashed, and spent

10:56 <Tank_Master> lol

10:58 <CoderForLife> oh well - another financial bullet dodged

10:58 <CoderForLife> we need that unit to run while we start wall construction this week

11:24 <CoderForLife> Fay back to expected hurricane status at landfall

11:24 <Romulus> <> (at

11:28 <CoderForLife> bbl

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13:25 <CoderForLife> &quiet

13:25 <Romulus> Shhhhh... Day Sleepers

13:25 <CoderForLife> bbl

13:33 <saenger> day??? it's in the evening now, 19:30

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15:13 <xcamel> yup... still "day"

15:16 <efc> Moo

15:16 <efc> Dad's been working on a garage... he always finds the best deals on scrap/surplus supplies when he builds stuff

15:17 <efc> Could have gotten 2 8 foot garage doors with lifters for $250

15:17 <efc> But didn't want that kind

15:19 <xcamel> found a 1tb 'mybook' drive for backups at wal*mart today for $200

15:20 <xcamel> seems yo be working just fine, although not that fast...

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15:27 <efc> USB type thing?

15:31 <xcamel> yup

15:37 <PovAddict> managed to build BOINC for the iPhone/iPod touch

15:38 <efc> Nice, now we can have benchmarks ?!

15:39 <PovAddict> looks like it doesn't do benchmarks until I attach a project

15:40 <PovAddict> I'm rebuilding everything now, with fixed platform name

15:41 <PovAddict> benchmarks running

15:42 <PovAddict> lol

15:42 <PovAddict> 17-Aug-2008 16:41:15 [---] Benchmark results:

15:42 <PovAddict> 17-Aug-2008 16:41:15 [---]    Number of CPUs: 1

15:42 <PovAddict> 17-Aug-2008 16:41:15 [---]    124 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU

15:42 <PovAddict> 17-Aug-2008 16:41:15 [---]    226 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> hehe

15:45 <yoyo[RKN]> but makes no sense to run a project on this slow cpu

15:46 <xcamel> formatting for linux..

15:47 <xcamel> then I should be able to backup all 3 machines to that drive..

15:47 <xcamel> plain ext3

15:49 <xcamel> index tables are going to take forever...

16:06 <xcamel> 787 of 7453 so far

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16:40 <CoderForLife> Fay 5pm EDT update

16:40 <Romulus> <> (at

16:40 <xcamel> I still think q-ber is going to cut it apart

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16:43 <CoderForLife> do I detect an accent?

16:43 <xcamel> naaaah..

16:44 <xcamel> rushism

16:44 <CoderForLife> Bah Habah

16:44 <CoderForLife> Principle of Total Conservation of Rs

16:44 <xcamel> gonna take forever for this drive to format..

16:45 <CoderForLife> no Rs are created or destroyed, just redeployed

16:46 <CoderForLife> I wuz wundrin what it would take to bend Fay's path more towards VA

16:47 <efc> a crop in the field

16:48 <CoderForLife> maybe I could get you to give it even more of an eastward shove, efc

16:49 <xcamel> nope - going over an area that really needs some more rain...

16:49 <xcamel> we got all of theirs..

16:50 <CoderForLife> but coming at me - where I'd rather not...

16:50 <xcamel> 2117/7453

16:50 <CoderForLife> pretty slow xcamel

16:50 <xcamel> ZzZzZzZz...

16:50 <CoderForLife> we put in a 1TB NAS device

16:50 <xcamel> fast enough for backups when done..

16:51 <xcamel> but it's no fiber channel...

16:51 <CoderForLife> lol

16:51 <efc> I need to automate my backup scheme sometime

16:51 <CoderForLife> same efc - the 1TB device opens that door for me

16:52 <efc> I have an extra drive i only use for backups and some mass media

16:52 <efc> just need a batch file to dump stuff occasionally

16:52 <efc> though I have problems with windows locking files

16:52 <CoderForLife> oh well - need to collect the trash and take it out, then get back on the Powerpoint slides for the meeting at 9:00 tomorrow morning

16:52 <CoderForLife> I see I am away

16:52 * CoderForLife makes it so

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17:27 <wdsmia> &wx 50319

17:27 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 83.9F / 28.8C | Humidity: 42% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Low in the upper 50s. Southwest wind around 5 mph.; Monday - Sunny. High in the mid 80s. Southwest wind around 5 mph.; Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the lower 60s. Southwest wind near 5 mph.;

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17:35 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

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18:06 <quail> &wx ypad

18:06 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 46°F / 8°C | Humidity: 87% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 7:00 AM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Overcast. Low:41 F. / 5 C.;

18:08 <quail> meep meep

18:08 <quail> morning all

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18:30 <xcamel> 'lo Q

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18:35 <quail> xcamel: g'day Jay, how are you?

18:36 <xcamel> good enough

18:36 <quail> ;-)

18:38 <xcamel> waiting for this usb drive to finish formating

18:39 <xcamel> like watching paint dry

18:40 <quail> a watched thing always seem to take longer

18:40 <xcamel> 1TB, more or less

18:41 <quail> ;-)

18:42 <xcamel> can windows see/read ext3?

18:43 <PovAddict> not by default

18:43 <PovAddict> there are 3rd party drivers that can

18:43 <xcamel> hmm..

18:43 <quail> there a 3rd party program

18:43 <xcamel> I'll have to check that...

18:45 <PovAddict> can also access ext3 (see FAQ)

18:45 <Romulus> Title: Ext2 IFS For Windows (at

18:46 <quail>

18:46 <Romulus> Title: Ext3 in windows - Gentoo Linux Wiki (at

18:48 <xcamel> got it..

18:48 <xcamel> thanks

18:49 <xcamel> 5/7'ths done..

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19:15 <xcamel> ahhh needed coffee

19:20 <quail> coffee is good till you get the caffeine jitters

19:24 <xcamel> baaah...

19:25 * xcamel yawns

19:25 <xcamel> q - you tried galaxy zoo?

19:25 <quail> what that?

19:27 <nickuwo> where do you set deadlines for WUs?

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19:27 <PovAddict> do you use create_work tool, or a C++ work generator?

19:27 <nickuwo> c++

19:28 <PovAddict> delay_bound (deadline in seconds since workunit is sent), either in the WU template or the WORKUNIT C++ object

19:28 <xcamel>

19:28 <Romulus> Title: Home | Galaxy Zoo (at

19:28 <nickuwo> nice, thats what i thought

19:28 <xcamel> it's really cool of you're bored

19:29 <Soul_keeper> good work

19:29 <Soul_keeper> did i miss anything ?

19:29 <nickuwo> thx

19:30 <PovAddict> what happened to stardust?

19:30 <PovAddict> is it still running?

19:30 <quail> xcamel: ah yeah I have seen it before, but I don't have an account with them tho

19:31 <xcamel> easy registration... but no "score" like seti

19:31 <Soul_keeper> no "lo" ?

19:32 <xcamel> 'lo SK

19:33 <quail> plink =>

19:35 <xcamel> sporked..

19:35 <xcamel> 7132/7453 ....

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19:44 <KathrynM> mornin

19:45 <Didactylos> Hi, KathrynM

19:45 <Didactylos> I has choclit.

19:46 <xcamel> 'lo K

19:46 <KathrynM> Didactylos, send the chocolite here and nobody will get hurt

19:46 <Didactylos> How's the furball?

19:46 <KathrynM> not good :(

19:46 <xcamel> I has Kaffene

19:47 <Tank_Master_> hiya KM

19:47 <xcamel> format done - now creating journal

19:47 <KathrynM> hi Tank_Master_ xcamel

19:47 <xcamel> 'lo TM

19:48 <Tank_Master_> sup xcamel

19:48 <Didactylos> I have no experience of sick pets. Good luck with the critter.

19:49 <Didactylos> Have some chocolate.

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19:49 <KathrynM> thanks much Didactylos

19:49 <KathrynM> I gotta take her back to the vet today

19:50 <Tank_Master> for a refund?

19:50 <KathrynM> probably x-rays

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19:52 <PovAddict> note to self: restarting KDM kills running X sessions

19:54 <KathrynM> lol

19:54 <Tank_Master> no shyt

20:01 <Soul_keeper> kdm/xdm are junk

20:01 <PovAddict> what do you use?

20:01 <Soul_keeper> a different runlevel

20:02 <Tank_Master> root level

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20:04 <xcamel> wow - finally formatted and journaled..

20:08 <xcamel> now to see if backup works..

20:19 <xcamel> looks like it is..

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20:25 <xcamel> anyway... as got galaxy zoo - I've classified around 5200 of them

20:25 <xcamel> some are repeats though

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20:57 <quail> w00t by the there abouts the end of the month Debian Lenny (aka testing) will be going stable :-)

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21:11 <zombie67> pov?

21:11 <Romulus> Somebody said pov is usually not got for very long, zombie67

21:11 <PovAddict> boo

21:12 <zombie67> hi!

21:12 <zombie67> where does one set the frequency of updating the stats?

21:12 <PovAddict> what stats?

21:12 <PovAddict> how often the server exports stats?

21:13 <zombie67> no, I think they are talking about how often the -in-project stats are updated

21:13 <PovAddict> credit is granted as soon as workunits get validated

21:14 <PovAddict> independent of that, webpages showing credits may be cached for a few minutes

21:14 <zombie67> I mean the top users/teams/machines

21:14 <PovAddict> those are also cached

21:14 <zombie67> many projects update them only a few times/day, or even only once/day

21:15 <PovAddict> projectroot/html/project/ has TOP_PAGES_TTL

21:15 <PovAddict> &echo by default set to [math convert 43200 seconds hours] hours

21:15 <Romulus> by default set to 12 hours

21:16 <zombie67> thanks!

21:16 <zombie67> what about the exporting?

21:16 <zombie67> he may want to know that too

21:16 <PovAddict> exporting is in config.xml

21:16 <PovAddict> the interval the db_dump task is run

21:17 <PovAddict> default 24 hours

21:18 <zombie67> thanks again!!

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23:02 <quail> meep meep

23:03 <zombie67> zoom zoom

23:06 <quail> how are things?

23:07 <zombie67> watching bourn ultimatum

23:07 <zombie67> borne

23:08 <zombie67> whatever

23:08 <quail> :-)

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23:51 <quail> meep meep BadBarbarian

23:52 <BadBarbarian> hi quail

23:53 <quail> BadBarbarian: ey, how are you?

23:53 <BadBarbarian> good you

23:53 <quail> good thanks

23:54 <BadBarbarian> hows things down under

23:54 <quail> cold, but good

23:54 <quail> and how things there?

23:55 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

23:55 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 53F / 11.7C | Humidity: 99% | Pressure: in / hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 1mph / 1.6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with thunderstorms likely early in the evening...partly cloudy with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the late evening and overnight. Lows 50 to 60. Light winds. Chance of thunderstorms 60 percent.; Monday - Mostly sunny (2 more messages)

23:55 <quail> &wx ypad

23:55 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 63% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 1:00 PM CST; Partly Cloudy. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Overcast. Low:41 F. / 5 C.;

23:55 <BadBarbarian> &more

23:55 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: with a slight chance of thunderstorms in the morning...partly cloudy with a chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs 74 to 82. Light winds becoming west around 15 mph in the afternoon. Chance of thunderstorms 30 percent.; Monday Night - Mostly cloudy in the evening then clearing. A 20 percent chance of thunderstorms. Lows 51 to 61. Light winds.; Flash Flood Warning for Coconino County in (1 more message)

23:55 <BadBarbarian> &more

23:55 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: effect until 12:00 AM MST on August 18, 2008;

23:55 <BadBarbarian> nice quail

23:57 <quail> will boinc do 2 projects at once?

23:57 <PovAddict> I've seen people attach 40 at once

23:57 <BadBarbarian> sure

23:58 <PovAddict> I've never gone above 10

23:58 <quail> PovAddict: what I mean is seti and CP

23:58 <PovAddict> why not

23:58 <quail> eg seti on one core and cp on the other core

23:59 <quail> in bit over a day I will finish a cp wu and on have the big cp wu left running on one core and I was going to start up seti again

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