IRC logs of #boinc for Monday, 2008-08-25

00:34 <Soul_keeper> http://313merch.com/313_shirt_order/show_tits.html

00:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6y2cwp> (at 313merch.com)

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04:22 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 69.5F / 20.8C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.87in / 1011.4hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the mid 80s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy in the evening...then becoming mostly clear. Lows in the upper 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Tuesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower (1 more message)

04:22 <CoderForLife> &more

04:22 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 80s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.;

04:31 <CoderForLife> brb   breakfast

04:42 <CoderForLife> b

04:43 <KathrynM> mroning

04:43 <KathrynM> errr evening

04:43 <KathrynM> or whatever

04:53 <CoderForLife> err or eee whack

04:53 <CoderForLife> sorry I was distracted by a gantt chart

04:55 <KathrynM> I hope you swatted it

04:55 <KathrynM> :)

04:55 * KathrynM goes to order pizza

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05:12 <ELGono> gnaaa heidis laptop hd has bad blocks :/

05:12 <CoderForLife> ack

05:12 <CoderForLife> hello ELGono

05:13 <ELGono> moo don

05:13 <CoderForLife> fix'em

05:13 <ELGono> not a nice waking up :/

05:14 <ELGono> well it's five years old and toshiba says it just have a mtfb of 2800h/y

05:14 <CoderForLife> reckon not

05:14 <ELGono> mtbf

05:15 <ELGono> had a nice vj-gig this weekend for "masta ace" ... american hip hopper

05:15 <ELGono> was quite a good show, they really liked it

05:15 <CoderForLife> great

05:16 <ELGono> did a lot with live camera feed with realtime effects

05:22 <CoderForLife> sounds neat

05:33 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

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06:16 * CoderForLife wonders if KathrynM went to Cleveland to order pizza

06:17 <CoderForLife> oh well, so begins another w@#% week

06:17 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:17 <KathrynM> lol

06:17 <KathrynM> have a good day

06:17 <CoderForLife> thx u2

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06:56 <hawmps> ip kills... 219.142.3.250 , 81.91.216.30, 89.211.45.82, 222.106.149.35

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07:02 <yang> I wonder where I could get a source boinc version for netbsd

07:03 <yang> or a basic boinc package which could get packed for netbsd

07:07 <KathrynM> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/DownloadOther

07:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6f8g6p> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

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09:31 <quail> meep meep

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10:19 <hawmps> chirp

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11:37 <PovAdct_w> RCN had database trouble, work in progress lost server-side, abort any work you have and get new

11:37 <PovAdct_w> in compensation, the admin is giving +20% credit during the next week

11:37 <Tank_Master> !

11:37 * Tank_Master attaches to RCN

11:38 <Soul_keeper> send your money to the lord !  here's my address ....

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12:13 <zombie67> TM?  you're back already?

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12:30 <Tank_Master> yeah, rain

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12:50 <quail> damn I need some help

12:56 <Tank_Master> you always need help

12:57 <Tank_Master> ;)

12:57 <quail> yeah I am my own hazard :-P

13:00 <Tank_Master> lol

13:00 <Tank_Master> hay, at least your learning something

13:02 <quail> I want to do my own radio sation

13:03 <Tank_Master> gl

13:04 <quail> I have the manual dj experience

13:04 <Tank_Master> good

13:04 <Tank_Master> I run the sound system for my church

13:04 <Tank_Master> fun stuff :P

13:04 <quail> but I trying to get wht learn into the digital world

13:06 <quail> I just have to work out software I a custom to

13:07 * quail has to spend little more money tho :-S

14:14 <desti> http://www.gb.nrao.edu/fgdocs/300ft/300ft.html 0_0

14:14 <Romulus> Title: NRAO 300 foot Telescope Home Page (at www.gb.nrao.edu)

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14:22 <hawmps> ok... 20 years ago...

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15:01 <quail> root@OpenWrt:~# uptime 01:10:26 up 247 days,  4:24, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

15:10 <Tank_Master> what a waste of a system

15:10 <Tank_Master> no load?

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15:52 <DerMeister> I don't think you want to run boinc on a router ;)

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16:34 <TBAA> hi

16:35 <TBAA> i try to get my server connected with boinc

16:35 <TBAA> i use boinc_cmd but cannot attach a project

16:35 <TBAA> i get -155 error

16:36 <xcamel> spork >> 82.201.209.194

16:36 <xcamel> &boincerr -155

16:36 <Romulus> xcamel: authentication error

16:37 <xcamel> email or pswd is wrong...

16:37 <TBAA> i am pretty new to boinc

16:38 <TBAA> i made an account on rosetta@home

16:38 <TBAA> boinc_cmd --project-attach http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta MyUserId

16:38 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

16:38 <xcamel> you need to register with a project before attaching

16:38 <TBAA> yes i have a account and a user id

16:39 <TBAA> is this the authkey?

16:40 <xcamel> did you get an account key by email?

16:40 <TBAA> do i need anything else? username pw?

16:41 <TBAA> i didnt get any mail

16:42 <xcamel> you might be able to get it bu logging on to your rosetta account on the web

16:42 <TBAA> i am logged in

16:42 <TBAA> there are two numbers

16:42 <TBAA> a account id

16:43 <TBAA> and a id for all products at the buttom

16:43 <xcamel> it's like a 34 bit key

16:43 <xcamel> {duh}

16:43 <xcamel> 64 bit key

16:44 <xcamel> the account ID should be it

16:44 <xcamel> the other is a cross-project ID

16:44 <TBAA> the account id has 6 numbers

16:52 <xcamel> nope..

16:52 <xcamel> hold on a sec..

16:53 <xcamel> should look like this:

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16:53 <xcamel> 724f5bfA7ed06f2c98a0f944aac26eb8

16:54 <TBAA> no nothing like this.

16:54 <TBAA> i get a -155 with account_create too

16:54 <xcamel> ++

16:54 <TBAA> whats that with the rpc?

16:54 <xcamel> that would be a true account key..

16:55 <TBAA> do i have change this?

16:55 <xcamel> remote process control

16:55 <xcamel> and no.

16:55 <TBAA> ok i installed the manager and the client

16:55 <xcamel> lemme check something else

16:58 <xcamel> are you attached to any other projects?

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16:59 <TBAA> no i try seti but there was the same error

17:00 <xcamel> did seti send you an account key?

17:01 <xcamel> I don't use cmdline versions, so I really don't know if it will take email/password to attach manually

17:03 <TBAA> http://wiki.debian.org/BOINC/Troubleshooting

17:03 <Romulus> Title: BOINC/Troubleshooting - Debian Wiki (at wiki.debian.org)

17:03 <TBAA> there is an example

17:04 <TBAA> maybe i should try an other project

17:06 <xcamel> seti should be the easy one

17:07 <TBAA> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=3830#49796

17:07 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5f8uqq> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

17:07 <TBAA> they they i need no key

17:07 <TBAA> they say

17:08 <TBAA> but with this i still get a -155

17:09 <xcamel> weird..

17:09 <xcamel> can you run the gui versdion?

17:10 <TBAA> i have a gui on my mac runing boinc

17:10 <TBAA> but there is no gui on the server

17:10 <xcamel> on the *nix box..

17:10 <xcamel> oh..

17:10 <xcamel> dunno then...

17:11 <TBAA> i give seti another try

17:11 <TBAA> i have 2 keys there

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17:22 <PovAddict> -155 is not that kind of authentication error

17:22 <PovAddict> boinccmd can't authenticate with the core client

17:22 <xcamel> finally, the pro steps in..

17:23 <PovAddict> TBAA: search for a gui_rpc_auth.cfg in the directory where BOINC is, it has the rpc password; then you can use boinccmd --passwd the-password-in-gui-rpc-auth-cfg

17:23 <PovAddict> or, edit that gui_rpc_auth.cfg to have a password you can actually remember :)

17:23 <TBAA> PovAddict:  i think i found the error

17:24 <TBAA> but if i now mac a look_up i get retval: 0

17:24 <PovAddict> what BOINC version?

17:24 <Romulus> what BOINC version is it, PovAddict

17:25 <TBAA> 5.4.11

17:25 <PovAddict> that's old

17:26 <TBAA> thats what debian etch installed

17:26 <PovAddict> and boinccmd was even less user friendly than it still is now

17:26 <PovAddict> after doing a --lookup_account, and getting the completely useless reply "retval: 0", do --lookup_account_poll; that will show the account key, which you can use in --project_attach

17:27 <PovAddict> http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd#Old_lookup_account

17:27 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6osrqv> (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

17:28 <TBAA> ah great theres my key

17:29 <TBAA> ok i attach

17:30 <TBAA> ok how to get it to work? i set runmode always and network mode always

17:30 <PovAddict> maybe it's already working

17:31 <PovAddict> if boinccmd --get_results shows *something*, you have workunits, maybe running, maybe not yet

17:31 <TBAA> and resume

17:31 <TBAA> no results

17:31 <TBAA> no cpu activity

17:32 <PovAddict> hmm

17:32 <PovAddict> boinccmd --get_project_status

17:32 <PovAddict> does rosetta show there?

17:32 <TBAA> resource share: 100.000000

17:32 <TBAA> the other are 0 or no

17:33 <PovAddict> at least it shows...

17:33 <PovAddict> boinccmd --get_messages 0

17:33 <TBAA> rosetta@home 1 1219699740 Successfully attached to rosetta@home

17:33 <TBAA> 1 1219699875 Rescheduling CPU: project resumed by user

17:34 <PovAddict> no "Sending scheduler request"?

17:34 <TBAA> rosetta@home 1 1219699740 Message from server: platform '' not found

17:34 <PovAddict> bah wtf

17:34 <PovAddict> what processor?

17:34 <TBAA> quad core

17:34 <TBAA> Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU           L5410  @ 2.33GHz

17:35 <PovAddict> I mean is it a normal x86 or x86_64, or is it some less common CPU like sparc or arm?

17:35 <TBAA> yes 64 bit

17:37 <PovAddict> (debian supports a dozen CPU platforms)

17:37 <PovAddict> well, I can only conclude that the debian package is not only old but also broken

17:38 <TBAA> it is a fresh etch install

17:39 <PovAddict> what is etch? testing?

17:39 <PovAddict> or stable?

17:39 <TBAA> stable

17:39 <TBAA> lenny is testing

17:40 <PovAddict> I'm totally out of date with debian, they probably released two major versions since I last looked :)

17:40 <TBAA> lenny will be released in sep. soo you can increase one ;-)

17:47 <TBAA> ok it looks like they dont support 64 bit....

17:47 <PovAddict> who?

17:47 <TBAA> seti said the same

17:48 <TBAA> rosetta

17:48 <TBAA> arrr i dont want to work 2 days to give some cpu power

17:48 <PovAddict> both support 64-bit

17:49 <PovAddict> the BOINC package in debian is broken, it says its platform is "", should say "x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"

17:49 <PovAddict> it's also a BOINC version from a few *years* ago

17:49 <TBAA> hmm

17:49 <PovAddict> but that's debian for ya

17:50 <PovAddict> outdated as hell

17:50 <TBAA> but stable ;-)

17:54 <PovAddict> grep platform_name /var/lib/boinc-client/client_state.xml

17:55 <TBAA> i have a better idea

17:55 <TBAA> i downloaded the new client

17:56 <TBAA> from the homepage

17:56 <TBAA> and now everything works great

18:00 <xcamel> super.

18:01 <xcamel> latest versions == http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/

18:01 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at boinc.berkeley.edu)

18:02 <TBAA> http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=881329

18:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/6nsqyq> (at boinc.bakerlab.org)

18:02 <TBAA> looks good

18:02 <CoderForLife> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1048861/Eight-million-people-risk-ID-fraud-credit-card-details-stolen-hotel-chain-hackers.html

18:03 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5p3w2b> (at www.dailymail.co.uk)

18:03 <xcamel> aw jeez...

18:04 <CoderForLife> Best Western patrons over the last 12 months

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18:07 <xcamel> thanks for the heads up..

18:07 <CoderForLife> np

18:14 <CoderForLife> oh my - 24 MS updates waiting to pounce on me

18:14 <CoderForLife> got.. to.. resist..

18:14 <PovAddict> for a start, install all the ones that don't say "you may need to reboot"

18:15 <CoderForLife> those are pretty scarce

18:15 <PovAddict> I know

18:16 * CoderForLife starts looking at Code

18:16 * PovAddict finishes deleting spam from BOINC wiki

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18:27 <PovAddict> "We don't need smart phones - just smarter people with phones."

18:37 <xcamel> re-back

18:37 <KathrynM> hiya x

18:39 <CoderForLife> back2

18:39 <CoderForLife> hello KathrynM

18:40 <KathrynM> morning all

18:40 <CoderForLife> mornin

18:41 <xcamel> 'lo K

18:46 <KathrynM> http://esladventuresinphotos.wordpress.com/

18:46 <Romulus> Title: ESL Teaching (at esladventuresinphotos.wordpress.com)

18:46 <KathrynM> couple new pictures up

18:49 <CoderForLife> looking

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18:51 <Tank_Master> nice pic

18:51 <KathrynM> thanks

18:51 <KathrynM> I really love how it turned out

18:51 <Tank_Master> who did you pay to take that?

18:51 <Tank_Master> :P

18:51 <KathrynM> pffffffffft

18:51 <Tank_Master> LOL

18:51 <KathrynM> like i could ask a Korean to take it

18:51 <CoderForLife> there's Sean again

18:51 <KathrynM> yeah, the little pill

18:52 <xcamel> nice

18:52 <KathrynM> :)

18:52 <CoderForLife> now, Dan's the man!

18:53 <KathrynM> crap, he's an annoying little child

18:53 <CoderForLife> with those ears, he'll go far

18:53 <KathrynM> lol

18:54 <Tank_Master> cute kids, bit young for me though

18:54 <CoderForLife> do you like children, Tank_Master?

18:55 <KathrynM> I had a class with some teenagers.  I'll take the preschoolers anyday

18:55 <Tank_Master> depends on what u meen by "like"

18:55 <KathrynM> lol

18:55 <KathrynM> they're nice when you can send them home at the end of the day

18:56 <KathrynM> I couldn't handle being a mother

18:56 <Tank_Master> they are all just annoying little poop brats

18:57 <CoderForLife> I know a guy that was studying for the priesthood

18:57 <CoderForLife> when asked if he liked children...

18:57 <CoderForLife> he replied, yes, preferably grilled

18:57 <Tank_Master> LOL

18:57 <PovAddict> o.0

18:57 <KathrynM> eek

18:58 <CoderForLife> shut down that line of inquiry

19:01 <CoderForLife> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,410162,00.html

19:01 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5munux> (at www.foxnews.com)

19:02 <CoderForLife> Baseball Team's Pitcher, 9, Ousted for Being Too Good

19:02 <KathrynM> wow

19:06 <PovAddict> eek

19:06 <xcamel> question..

19:06 <PovAddict> I finally drained my BOINC queue, but didn't notice, wonder how long I've been idle...

19:07 <xcamel> images on my local server won't show in opera when called by [img] link...

19:07 <xcamel> how do I fix that...

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19:12 <Tank_Master> use FF or IE

19:13 <CoderForLife> you mean the HTML tag <img src=... ?

19:14 <xcamel> or the equiv bbb code

19:14 <PovAddict> so like

19:15 <PovAddict> on a forum, you use [img]http://lledgerock.com/something[/img] and it doesn't show?

19:15 <xcamel> I am inside the firewall, the image is inside the firewall, the image is called in the browser from outside the fw

19:15 <xcamel> by it's external address..

19:16 <PovAddict> I sometimes have the problem that I can't access my local server using my external IP

19:16 <PovAddict> even though it works for everybody else

19:16 <PovAddict> I have no fancy firewall, just an off-the-shelf router

19:16 <PovAddict> I "solved" it by adding "127.0.0.1 stuff.povaddict.com.ar" to my /etc/hosts file

19:19 <Tank_Master> where do you put the optimized files in BOINC 6.x?

19:19 <Tank_Master> optimized SETI files*

19:21 <PovAddict> I dunno where the data directory is

19:21 <Tank_Master> isnt that somewhere in the user directory?

19:22 <xcamel> on a forum, you use [img]http://lledgerock.com/something[/img] and it doesn't show? <<< no

19:22 <xcamel> exactly the problem

19:23 <CoderForLife> DNS problem probably

19:23 <CoderForLife> do Pov's host file trick

19:23 <xcamel> seems it's because I'm on the local ip that is being called through the fw

19:23 <CoderForLife> Linux box?

19:23 <xcamel> ok.. we'll try that one..

19:24 <xcamel> ayup

19:24 <CoderForLife> edit /etc/hosts

19:27 <xcamel> nothing to restart then... right

19:28 <xcamel> yes..

19:28 <xcamel> works now.

19:28 <CoderForLife> probably not, but you could /sbin/service network retsart for fun

19:28 <CoderForLife> oh good

19:28 <xcamel> hehehe...

19:28 <CoderForLife> er restart would be better

19:28 <xcamel> thought I was losing my mind... with no intention of looking for it...

19:29 <CoderForLife> DNS will do that to you

19:29 <CoderForLife> just behind Windows coding

19:29 <xcamel> mine is on IPv0

19:29 <CoderForLife> stone tablets?

19:29 <CoderForLife> cuniform?

19:30 <CoderForLife> smoke signals?

19:31 <xcamel> something like that...

19:32 <xcamel> lol... big news..

19:32 <xcamel> seems Cornell is experimenting with making stove pellets out of grass...

19:33 <xcamel> just what I need... a bunch of hippies camped out on my lawn going wooooah...dude that's one cool chimney...

19:33 <CoderForLife> lol

19:34 <PovAddict> about to go out and shout "get off my lawn"?

19:34 <CoderForLife> then they'll just float away

19:35 <xcamel> uh-huh

19:41 <xcamel> I never get that lucky..

19:41 <xcamel> However, I am heavily armed...

19:43 * CoderForLife is just heavy

19:44 <PovAddict> heavily armed like a good american... *hides*

19:45 <xcamel> With great freedom comes great responsibility, my son.

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19:45 <CoderForLife> indeed

19:45 <xcamel> Ted Kennedy's car has killed more people that all of my guns together..

19:46 <PovAddict> heh

19:46 <CoderForLife> and that's just the bodies they found

19:46 <xcamel> double indeed

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19:51 <CoderForLife> off to watch something other than duhmocracy at work

19:51 <CoderForLife> gn

19:52 <xcamel> like watching paint dry...

19:55 <xcamel> LOL - test your reading skills...

19:56 <xcamel> http://www.panexa.com/

19:56 <Romulus> Title: MERD | Panexa (Acidachrome Promanganate) (at www.panexa.com)

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20:51 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

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21:57 <xcamel> laterz...

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