IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-08-31

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01:01 <Soul_keeper> hell yeah

01:01 <Soul_keeper> i just bowled the best i've ever done

01:02 <Soul_keeper> hit a 199

01:03 <Soul_keeper> [PLAYING] [02:02:658] Whatever .:. Godsmack .:. Godsmack .:. Track 2

01:08 <Soul_keeper> i wasn't about to let the mexicans in the next lane show me up

01:08 <Soul_keeper> their girlfriends want me and they want to be me now

01:09 <Soul_keeper> i'm a tiger in my prime !!!

01:33 <Soul_keeper>   the ties to obama are kinda concerning ...

01:33 <Romulus> Title: Tony Rezko - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at

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05:56 <CoderForLife> good interview with Sarah Palin by Maria Bartolomo

05:56 <Romulus> Title: Video - (at

06:03 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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06:43 <CoderForLife> glorious sunrise

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06:53 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

06:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 61.6F / 16.4C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 1.2mph / 1.9km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. East winds around 5 mph... increasing to around 10 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 60s...upper 50s in river valleys. East winds around 5 mph.; Labor Day - Sunny. Highs in the (1 more message)

06:54 <CoderForLife> &more

06:54 <Romulus> CoderForLife: lower 90s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.;

07:27 <CoderForLife> quail looks like your blog MySQL errors have gone away, as you predicted

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07:36 <CoderForLife> According to the 2006 census, 670,053 people live in Alaska, while 853,476 reside in Joe Biden\rquote s home state of Delaware.  Seems on par in terms of "representative quotient" to me...

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07:47 <Didactylos> How much experience does she have, again?

07:48 <Didactylos> Democratic women are far too smart to be fooled by such blatent posturing.

07:49 <Didactylos> Maybe it will get a few more Republicans to the polls. Who knows?

07:51 <Didactylos> But she's anti-abortion, doesn't think we're responsible for climate change, and really those are the only positions I know she has.

07:51 <Didactylos> A vote for her is pretty much a vote for more of the same.

07:58 <quail> CoderForLife: thanks for checking :-)

08:05 <CoderForLife> back

08:05 <CoderForLife> thanks for your input Didactylos

08:07 <CoderForLife> here's a link to an experience/background comparison between Palin and Obama

08:07 <Romulus> <> (at

08:09 <Didactylos> I think it's important that voters remember that the qualities they look for in VP should be *exactly* the same as those they want from a President.

08:09 <Didactylos> Given McCain's ill-health, it is triply important.

08:10 <CoderForLife> I wanted Fred Thompson

08:10 <CoderForLife> Sarah Palin is a great substitute

08:10 <xcamel> 'lo

08:10 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

08:11 <Didactylos> I note that website seems rather biased. Palin is an "Evengelical Christian", but Obama is not?

08:11 <Didactylos> They go to the trouble of listing their full names, just to get that "Hussain" out there?

08:11 <CoderForLife> he's not very evangelical about his faith

08:11 <Didactylos> This is propaganda, and I'm only up to point 5!

08:11 <CoderForLife> no - also show her maiden name

08:12 <CoderForLife> and I didn't know he was a "II"

08:12 * Didactylos stops reading.

08:12 <Didactylos> I hate propaganda.

08:13 <CoderForLife> it's just too good

08:13 <CoderForLife> I had to stop from time to time and say "wow"

08:13 <Didactylos> Wow, how biased is this?

08:13 <Didactylos> Or "Wow, I love how biased this is"?

08:14 <CoderForLife> wow - I am impressed with her background

08:14 <CoderForLife> wow - I know just where she's coming from

08:14 <Didactylos> Eurgh.

08:14 <Didactylos> So you want more of the same.

08:14 <CoderForLife> she's quite a bit different

08:14 <Didactylos> Economy down the toilet, war, famine, and poor disaster refief.

08:15 <CoderForLife> I didn't see Skull and Bones listed

08:15 <Didactylos> ^relief.

08:15 <Didactylos> Bush was a governor.

08:15 <CoderForLife> economy bolstered by the NG pipeline to Canada

08:15 <Didactylos> Not of a tiny state, either.

08:16 <Didactylos> Look what good that did! (A clue: zero)

08:16 <CoderForLife> what?

08:16 <Didactylos> Or do you like Bush, and think he did good things for your country?

08:16 <CoderForLife> what good what did?

08:17 <Didactylos> Most Republicans I know hate Bush quite a lot.....

08:17 <Didactylos> Being governor.

08:17 <Didactylos> gubbernatorial experience.

08:17 <CoderForLife> oh I see

08:17 <CoderForLife> let's see - Carter, Reagan, Clinton, Bush - all governors

08:18 <CoderForLife> seem like it's becoming common

08:18 <Didactylos> Not, in itself, a bad thing. But it's not a good thing, either.

08:18 <CoderForLife> executive experience

08:18 <Didactylos> I'm trying to say it's not a detail you can use to judge Presidential material.

08:18 <CoderForLife> It seems important to me

08:19 <CoderForLife> responsibility for signing the front of the paycheck is an important factor

08:20 <Didactylos> ?

08:20 <Didactylos> If you say so. Personally, I feel that has no bearing.

08:20 <Didactylos> A President isn't an office clerk.

08:20 <CoderForLife> that's why I'm voting my conscience for US President and VP

08:21 <CoderForLife> I was worried about McCain - this selection sealed the deal

08:21 <Didactylos> Where does your conscience lead you? The pro torture party?

08:22 <Didactylos> The pro-death penalty party?

08:22 <CoderForLife> I haven't tortured anyone, except you

08:22 <Didactylos> The pro-war party?

08:22 <xcamel> someone needs to make war on GB.. wake them back up...

08:22 <Didactylos> Sorry, I just can't equate these things with the term "conscience".

08:23 <Didactylos> Or are you in favour of discriminating against gays?

08:23 <CoderForLife> don't drink the Euro Kool-Aid

08:23 <xcamel> Oh wait... they already have all those terrorist muzzies they won't do anything about...

08:24 <Didactylos> I'm anti-abortion myself. I'm pro-choice - I think the child should choose....

08:24 <Didactylos> CoderForLife: so, are you against gay marriage?

08:24 <MTughan> rofl...

08:24 <Romulus> <> (at

08:24 <CoderForLife> yes, Didactylos

08:25 <Didactylos> On what basis?

08:25 <CoderForLife> marriage is between a one man and a one woman

08:25 <xcamel> the vas majority of gays are against 'gay marriage'

08:25 <CoderForLife> the very foundation of civilization

08:26 <Didactylos> ...

08:26 <Didactylos> That makes no sense. You want to deny a right to a massive group of people because "it's always been this way"?

08:27 <xcamel> only the 1%'ers in the radical homo agenda want to take down the basic foundations of society

08:27 <CoderForLife> you proceed from a false assumption - it's not a right

08:28 <xcamel> and it doesn't deserve any 'special rights'

08:28 <Didactylos> So, no marriage for heterosexuals, either. That would be fair. Yes?

08:28 <xcamel> again, you start from a false premise.

08:28 <CoderForLife> you have very screwed up logic

08:28 <CoderForLife> where's you get such notions?

08:28 <Didactylos> And you are a homophobe.

08:29 <Didactylos> I don't like homophobes.

08:29 <CoderForLife> that would mean being afraid - I am nor

08:29 <CoderForLife> not

08:29 <xcamel> straight to the adhiminem attack, eh?

08:29 <Didactylos> Most of all, I hate homophobes who try to hide behind the Bible.

08:29 <xcamel> er ad hominem even.

08:30 <CoderForLife> the basis of our civilization

08:30 <xcamel> was Darwin a christian?

08:30 <CoderForLife> not hide behind, stand upon

08:30 <Didactylos> The... what?

08:30 <Didactylos> The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality.

08:31 <CoderForLife> lol

08:31 <Didactylos> Despite the way it is often presented.

08:31 <xcamel> yes it does.. "abomination in the eyes of god"

08:31 <CoderForLife> you need some better information

08:31 <Didactylos> Jesus never even said anything on the subject.

08:31 * KathrynM sits back and watches the fireworks

08:31 <xcamel> he didn't have to...

08:31 <CoderForLife> he came to fulfll the law

08:31 <Didactylos> CoderForLife: I am very well informed indeed about this particular subject. I have studied it in some depth.

08:32 <CoderForLife> I see

08:32 <CoderForLife> and Sodom was...?

08:32 <xcamel> andswe the question >> was Darwin a christian?, Didactylos

08:32 <Didactylos> If you want to take everything in the OT literally, then you need to get yourself some slaves and start stoning people for many and various things.

08:32 * xcamel has twisted fingers this morning

08:33 <CoderForLife> oh, ok

08:33 <CoderForLife> let's start the circular reasoning

08:33 <xcamel> We know what was going on in Sodom, Gamorah was just full of liberals.

08:34 <xcamel> :-)

08:34 <Didactylos> Have you read Genesis recently?

08:34 <CoderForLife> Romans 1:27

08:34 <CoderForLife> And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

08:35 <xcamel> you still haven't answered the question, D

08:35 <Didactylos> The story of Sodom is about rape and debauchery, not homosexuality.

08:35 <Didactylos> You need to take that in context.

08:36 <CoderForLife> lol  OK

08:36 <xcamel> HA!

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08:37 <CoderForLife> would you like me to paste Romans 1?  heh

08:37 <xcamel> Didactylos: wherever you got your education... go ask for a refund...

08:37 <CoderForLife> go read Romans 1

08:38 <xcamel> As I recall, an "abomination" is a sin that can not be atoned for.

08:38 <Didactylos> "It seems that in part it least Paul was thinking of ritual prostitution; the association of the worship of false gods with `unnatural' sexual acts seems clear. Paul would have been as aware as anyone of the practices at Corinth where there was a large Jewish community, and at a hundred other shrines around the empire."

08:38 <CoderForLife> sounds like commentary

08:39 <xcamel> it is commentary....

08:39 <Didactylos> Yes. If you take things in the Bible out of context, you can twist them to mean what you want.

08:39 <CoderForLife> I said read Romans 1 - I didn't want to paste it

08:40 <CoderForLife> I was just pointing to where homosexuality is referred to

08:41 <CoderForLife> you contend that that is not what is being referred to

08:41 <xcamel> "Beware those who call Evil Good, and call Good, Evil"

08:41 <Didactylos> I am perfectly familiar with the passage.

08:41 <CoderForLife> excellent

08:41 <CoderForLife> and...

08:42 <Didactylos> Do you do everything else Paul says you should?

08:42 <CoderForLife> you said "The Bible doesn't condemn homosexuality."

08:42 <CoderForLife> I say it does - right there

08:42 <Didactylos> And it doesn't. At that period in history, homosexuality didn't exist as we know it today.

08:42 <CoderForLife> oh ok

08:43 <CoderForLife> nice try

08:43 <Didactylos> Paul is talking about cultic or abusive and exploitative forms of sexual behaviour.

08:43 <Didactylos> Ritual expoitation.

08:43 <CoderForLife> ah

08:44 <CoderForLife> read the context

08:44 <xcamel> LoL... Paul is talking about The Romans.

08:45 <Didactylos> I have, frequently.

08:45 <CoderForLife> excellent

08:46 <Didactylos> I'm sticking with what Jesus said.

08:46 <CoderForLife> That's great - read the Red

08:46 <Didactylos> And I think the way you hate others is *most* unchristian.

08:46 <CoderForLife> hate?

08:46 <Didactylos> Hate.

08:46 <CoderForLife> me?

08:46 <Didactylos> You.

08:46 <CoderForLife> you don't know me

08:47 <Didactylos> You have made yourself perfectly clear.

08:47 <CoderForLife> this is getting real personal

08:47 <xcamel> someone is unable to get a grip on "Hate the sin, not the sinner"

08:47 <CoderForLife> zackly

08:48 <xcamel> again, someone got ripped off on their education.

08:49 <CoderForLife> &dict slander

08:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, bouvier, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: slander n 1: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another 2: an abusive attack on a person's character or good name [syn: {aspersion}, {calumny}, {defamation}, {denigration}] v : charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone; "The journalists have defamed me!" "The article in the (24 more messages)

08:49 <Didactylos> Well, I assume you ascribe to all the stuff you say yourself. You wouldn't say things you didn't believe just for argument's sake, would you?

08:49 <Didactylos> *sigh*

08:49 <Didactylos> Homophobes always fight the accusation. Silly, really, when it is so painfully obvious.

08:49 <xcamel> it's fairly obvious that is what you are doing.

08:50 <CoderForLife> Oh, so I am a homophobe because I say I'm not, eh?

08:50 <xcamel> soooo typical

08:51 <CoderForLife> How do you measure love for homosexuals?

08:51 * CoderForLife notes we're a long way off topic

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08:52 <CoderForLife> oic

08:52 <CoderForLife> kthxbye

08:53 <xcamel> sadly, the definition of hate has gone from a fine brush to a highway paver...

08:53 <CoderForLife> sorry about all that

08:53 * xcamel loves watching a weenie go down in flames.

08:57 <xcamel> good job, btw, CFL

08:58 <CoderForLife> one of the few times I've been in such a debate

08:58 <xcamel> it isn't a debate when you're well grounded in the truth.

08:59 <KathrynM> &nn

08:59 <Romulus> Live long and crunch!

08:59 <CoderForLife> I couldn't let such suppositions stand as fact/truth

08:59 <CoderForLife> cya KathrynM

08:59 <KathrynM> thanks for the entertainment

08:59 <CoderForLife> lol

08:59 <CoderForLife> it was free

08:59 <KathrynM> looks like the star wars marathon continues

08:59 <xcamel> allways good to hone your skills...

08:59 <KathrynM> episode 3 now

09:00 <xcamel> FWIW... I remember most of this about Biden, but there is a couple things I forgot...

09:00 <xcamel>

09:00 <Romulus> <> (at

09:00 <CoderForLife> looking

09:01 <KathrynM> hmmm

09:01 <KathrynM> logwatch doesn't appear to be running

09:01 * CoderForLife checks his

09:01 <xcamel> just damn... Gustav could go "Biblical"

09:01 <KathrynM> cron is doing ok tho

09:02 <KathrynM> so is logrotate

09:02 <CoderForLife> logwatch seems to be running here - not an update-induced problem?

09:02 <KathrynM> no, i looked for updates earlier today and there were none

09:02 <CoderForLife> Gustav will be epic

09:02 <KathrynM> lemme log into the root account and see if they're just not getting mailed

09:04 <xcamel> This is gonna leave a mark...

09:04 <xcamel>

09:04 <Romulus> <> (at

09:04 <CoderForLife> I'd say

09:04 <KathrynM> feck.  i'll figure it out later.  it's been over a week

09:05 <KathrynM> yes, i've been lax in checking system mail

09:05 * xcamel is guilty of that too.

09:05 <CoderForLife> gn KathrynM

09:05 <xcamel> nn

09:08 <CoderForLife> did you see the Palin interview with Maria Bartolomo?

09:09 <xcamel> no... missed it

09:09 <xcamel> on what?

09:09 <CoderForLife> [05:56] CoderForLife: good interview with Sarah Palin by Maria Bartolomo

09:09 <Romulus> Title: Video - (at

09:10 <xcamel> thanks..

09:10 <CoderForLife> energy, Alaska, etc

09:10 <CoderForLife> filmed before the selection

09:11 <CoderForLife> smart, principled, articulate

09:11 <xcamel> had to force the install of flash 10

09:11 <CoderForLife> hmm

09:12 <CoderForLife> I played it in Flash 9 in Firefox

09:12 <CoderForLife> sorry about that

09:12 <xcamel> couldn't find libcurl.0.3 - heaven knows why...

09:13 <CoderForLife> I played in on 'doze

09:14 <xcamel> still seems to work fine now..

09:14 <CoderForLife> cool

09:15 <xcamel> fwiw the quality is excellent

09:16 <CoderForLife> no script

09:17 <CoderForLife> no teleprompter

09:18 <xcamel> great interview

09:19 <CoderForLife> yes

09:24 <CoderForLife> just watched it again myself

09:26 <CoderForLife> Zogby

09:26 <Romulus> Title: Zogby International (at

09:26 <CoderForLife> bbiab

09:31 <MTughan> Now, next time I come on, I'll be at university.... bbl

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10:40 <xcamel> back from the zoo..

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10:49 <CoderForLife> back as well

10:52 <CoderForLife> Gustav un-good

10:58 <xcamel> seriously

10:59 <xcamel> I posted that c(pms)nbc video on FR - people are even more thrilled

10:59 <CoderForLife> excellent

11:00 <CoderForLife> looking

11:01 <xcamel>

11:01 <Romulus> <> (at

11:04 <CoderForLife> yeah, they're enthused

11:04 <CoderForLife> a one-two hurricane punch

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11:06 <xcamel> Hannah isn't helping a bit

11:21 <CoderForLife> Gustav and his sister

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11:32 <CoderForLife>

11:32 <Romulus> <> (at

11:32 <CoderForLife> Palin selection process

11:37 <CoderForLife> bbiab

11:39 <xcamel> that one I did see..

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12:14 <CoderForLife> "high noon" on the web cam - hopefully it will have people in the frame on Tuesday

12:16 <CoderForLife> "LHC@HOME is down for maintainance"

12:16 <CoderForLife> one hopes spelling is not a requirement for particle smashing

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14:02 <PovIpod> LHC down again?

14:03 <PovIpod> oh well, at least brings the channel back on topic

14:03 <PovIpod> this was really becoming #politics

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14:15 <CoderForLife> yeah PovIpod - I tried to make amends

14:16 <CoderForLife> Didactylos made it personal earlier

14:16 <PovIpod> saw that in logs

14:16 <CoderForLife> my apologies

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14:27 <CoderForLife> wb

14:27 <PovIpod> low ram, iPod randomly closes apps

14:28 <PovIpod> I think

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14:33 <PovIpod> &ping

14:33 <Romulus> pong

14:33 <CoderForLife> wb

14:33 <PovIpod> I should write my own IRC app designed to work on highly unreliable wifi

14:33 <CoderForLife> would be cool

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14:36 <PovIpod> and so I can switch from one wifi access point to another without losing messages

14:36 <PovIpod> (hopping between unsecured connections)

14:37 <CoderForLife> yes

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14:50 <CoderForLife> hey freakazoid0223

14:50 <freakazoid0223> hey whats up

14:50 <CoderForLife> not much

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18:00 <Tank_Master>

18:00 <Romulus> <> (at

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18:03 <CoderForLife> "Denny's closed for the night" - lol

18:12 <Tank_Master> :)

18:12 <Tank_Master> ill brb

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19:30 <Rookie_69> Second lightning storm of the day rolling through here now... I decided not to stay on the sailboat tonight.

19:31 <Tank_Master> :)

19:32 <Tank_Master> good show?

19:32 <Rookie_69> Not bad. Chain lightning a few miles away.

19:32 <CoderForLife> water and lightning go well together

19:32 <Rookie_69> ... and aluminum masts...

19:33 <CoderForLife> some believe it was the source of life

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19:33 <CoderForLife> anti-life, in your case

19:34 <Rookie_69> The lightning kept tripping the sensors on the light poles, so it was a dark drive home.

19:34 <CoderForLife> >foomp<

19:39 <Rookie_69> I'm not anti life... I'm just not that impressed with it so far.

19:40 <CoderForLife> lightning doesn't care about your opinion - it's an equal opportunity fryer

19:42 <Rookie_69> It can be an en-lightning experience.

19:42 <CoderForLife> it makes me all tingly

19:44 <Rookie_69> Speaking about Tingley, I wonder if Paul is in Bejing yet.

19:44 <CoderForLife> I ssem to have a distant memory of that

19:44 <CoderForLife> &seen TheGasGiant

19:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: TheGasGiant was last seen in #boinc 6 weeks, 4 days, 12 hours, 35 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <TheGasGiant> got me a Q9450 on order...due any day

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19:45 <CoderForLife> &seen Spit_theDog

19:45 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 15 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 16 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

19:45 * CoderForLife sighs

19:46 <Rookie_69> Different Paul.

19:46 <CoderForLife> oh

19:47 <Rookie_69>

19:47 <Romulus> <> (at

19:47 <CoderForLife> I don't know this person

19:48 <Rookie_69> He's a local boy. Good sailor.

19:48 <CoderForLife> avoids storms too?

19:49 <Rookie_69> Maybe...

19:52 <Rookie_69> I've helped out a little bit with the equipment for disabled sailing here, so I've gotten to know some of the guys.

19:55 <CoderForLife> I'm going to go work on the laptop in front of the TV (sure, sure)

19:56 <CoderForLife> gn all

19:56 <Rookie_69> NN.

19:58 <Rookie_69> I've almost dried off, I guess It's time to go curl up with a good audiobook.

19:58 <Rookie_69> Night.

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22:02 <sethy> Hey

22:17 <Soul_keeper> sethy, excellent work

22:17 <sethy> what did i do?

22:19 <sethy> Soul_keeper

22:24 <Soul_keeper> sethy, good channel performance

22:24 <sethy> je ne comprendes pas

22:25 <sethy> what channel performance?

22:25 <sethy> i am so lost

22:27 <Soul_keeper> tell me why all those people on "ice road truckers" cry and whine

22:27 <Soul_keeper> aren't they supposed to be tough ?

22:27 <Soul_keeper> bunch of cry babies

22:28 <sethy> because they are traveling through northern russia during the nuclear winter season?

22:28 <Soul_keeper> nah canada

22:28 <sethy> s/russia/canada

22:28 <Soul_keeper> if i was making that kinda money there would be no crying

22:28 <sethy> i think its the frost bite

22:29 <PovAddict> sethy: called spit? CFL was sighing again today

22:29 <PovAddict> [20:45] <CoderForLife> &seen Spit_theDog

22:29 <PovAddict> [20:45] <Romulus> CoderForLife: Spit_theDog was last seen in #boinc 1 year, 15 weeks, 3 days, 13 hours, 16 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: <Spit_theDog> Bye for now all :)

22:29 <PovAddict> [20:46] * CoderForLife sighs

22:29 <PovAddict> like that ^

22:29 <sethy> oh sorry, i've been prety busy :(

22:30 <sethy> relationship problems

22:30 <PovAddict> aw

22:30 <sethy> health problems

22:30 <sethy> education problems

22:30 <PovAddict> don't worry, last time I forgot to remind you to call her, my fault

22:30 <sethy> no its ok

22:30 <sethy> i set a reminder on my phone

22:30 <sethy> and it went off in the car on my way home from girlfriends

22:30 <sethy> and i forgot while i was enjoying my pizza

22:31 <sethy> today is monday so if someone reminds me i'll call today, tuesday i'll be out at college for enrollment

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22:31 <sethy> d0m1n03s

22:32 <sethy> but yeah, i dont start college till 8th, girlfriend starts today so i have a week off

22:33 <sethy> i'm sorry again CoderForLife

22:33 <sethy> i failed you all :(

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