00:09 <Tank_Master> does google's web browser some preloaded with the google toolbar intergrated into it?
00:13 <Soul_keeper> dunno
00:13 <Soul_keeper> they are apparently only releasing the windows version first
00:13 <Soul_keeper> i'm already not impressed
00:13 <Tank_Master> you tryed it?
00:13 <Soul_keeper> no
00:13 <Soul_keeper> i don't use windows
00:13 <Tank_Master> lol
00:13 <Tank_Master> ahh, right
00:14 <Tank_Master> forgot your one of THOSE lusers...
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00:15 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, i'm a superhero
00:15 <Tank_Master> you just keep telling yourself that when I play the latest n badassest game
00:16 <Soul_keeper> only lusers need to play the latest whatever you said
00:16 <Tank_Master> ;)
00:16 <Tank_Master> lol
00:16 <Tank_Master> badassest
00:16 <Soul_keeper> ok
00:16 <Tank_Master> havent a clue if thats a real word or not
00:16 <Tank_Master> just made it up
00:16 <Soul_keeper> yeah the ut3 people really left me hanging with their linux support
00:17 <Tank_Master> yeah
00:17 <Soul_keeper> quake4 and doom3 work fine tho
00:17 <Tank_Master> they left me hanging with requiereing to use that gayspy crap
00:17 <Soul_keeper> sad
00:17 <Tank_Master> I cant log in because my nick there is to long
00:18 <Tank_Master> and anything I tryed to change it to was already taken
00:18 <Tank_Master> and I dont like the takeor the levalathon as much as in the UT2k4
00:18 <Tank_Master> tank or*
00:19 <Soul_keeper> i just wanted to see the graphics ...
00:19 <Tank_Master> yeah, I can play offline
00:19 <Soul_keeper> but now i just don't care anymore about the company
00:19 <Tank_Master> but thats ot
00:19 <Tank_Master> no fun againce just bots
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01:26 <Soul_keeper> someone just told me my screenshot is NSFW ...
01:34 <efc> what screenshot..
01:41 <Tank_Master> not so fuchen werd?
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01:44 <mhearne> &whatis i686
01:44 <Romulus> mhearne: Error: No factoid matches that key.
01:45 <mhearne> &whatis mandriva 2008
01:45 <Romulus> mhearne: Error: No factoid matches that key.
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01:54 <efc> Yes, I can see how that might be slightly beyond accepted bounds
01:58 <Tank_Master> I dont
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02:00 <efc> To truly settle the debate we'd have to have much more material
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02:12 <Tank_Master> or we could just slap pov around
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04:08 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
04:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 72.3°F / 22.4°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.01in / 1016.1hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Southeast winds around 5 mph this morning...becoming light and variable.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Muggy. Lows in the mid 60s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny...hot with (1 more message)
04:08 <CoderForLife> &more
04:08 <Romulus> CoderForLife: highs in the lower 90s. South winds around 5 mph in the morning...becoming light and variable.;
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05:32 <clusty> hey guys
05:32 <clusty> long tiem no see
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05:34 <CoderForLife> hey clusty
05:35 <KathrynM__> whoa clusty is here
05:36 <clusty> all bow to his royal highness clusty
05:36 * clusty hand over the ring to be kissed
05:36 * KathrynM__ bows
05:37 <clusty> whats with the underscores?
05:37 <clusty> someone hijacked your nick?
05:38 <KathrynM__> I kept disconnecting for some reason
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05:38 <CoderForLife> she grows a tail periodically
05:38 <CoderForLife> I think it has to do with the phase of the moon
05:38 <KathrynM> and boy does the tailectomy hurt too
05:40 <CoderForLife> boys are especially sensitive
05:47 <CoderForLife> bbiab
06:02 <CoderForLife> back with a carton of orange juice
06:11 <CoderForLife> and a Coke and a smile
06:21 <hawmps> ip kill 126.96.36.199
06:22 <CoderForLife> morning
06:22 <CoderForLife> kilt - thx
06:25 <CoderForLife> bbiab
06:26 <hawmps> oh.. ossec 1.6 is out
06:27 <hawmps> major re-write
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06:46 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 September 2 - NGC 1316: After Galaxies Collide (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
07:03 <CoderForLife> ossec seems to be more Windows-ized
07:05 <CoderForLife> I'll let it simmer on the table for awhile, before digging in
07:07 <CoderForLife> 7:00am - waiting for workers...
07:16 <Didactylos> Why does Aaron Sorkin always write Christmas episodes that make me cry?
07:41 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
07:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 70.3°F / 21.3°C | Humidity: 86% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 80s. Southeast winds around 5 mph this morning...becoming light and variable.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Muggy. Lows in the mid 60s. Southeast winds around 5 mph.; Wednesday - Sunny...hot (1 more message)
07:41 <CoderForLife> &more
07:41 <Romulus> CoderForLife: with highs in the lower 90s. South winds around 5 mph in the morning...becoming light and variable.;
07:55 <CoderForLife> my contractor tells me he's rounding up equipment this morning, and will be out here at about 10:00
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08:20 <CoderForLife> holy smokes
08:20 <TheGasGiant> hola mate!
08:20 <CoderForLife> incredib;e
08:20 <CoderForLife> hey Paul!!
08:20 <TheGasGiant> g'day Don!
08:20 <CoderForLife> where have you been? been missing you
08:21 <TheGasGiant> been busy...new job
08:21 <TheGasGiant> all well otherwise, and you?
08:21 <CoderForLife> that's understandable
08:22 <CoderForLife> OK - my contractor says they'll be here at 10:00 this morning to start work
08:22 <TheGasGiant> wow....
08:22 <TheGasGiant> did it move much more?
08:22 <CoderForLife> it's down about 10 feet
08:23 <TheGasGiant> eeek!
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08:24 <CoderForLife> morning Doug
08:25 <wdsmia_w> Mornin Don
08:26 <TheGasGiant> howdy doug!
08:26 <wdsmia_w> *lo Paul
08:30 <TheGasGiant> all well doug?
08:31 <hawmps> 'lo Paul!!
08:31 <TheGasGiant> heya ace
08:31 <hawmps> new job ??!!??
08:32 <TheGasGiant> yep....engineering manager at a small engineering firm
08:32 <TheGasGiant> www.glp.com.au
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08:32 <hawmps> Good for you!
08:33 <hawmps> big pay raise, I hope...
08:33 <TheGasGiant> just went passed 3 months....yup big $
08:33 <CoderForLife> excellent
08:33 <TheGasGiant> now to save for the new house....
08:33 <hawmps> very good indeed.
08:33 <CoderForLife> good - new as in different, or new as in teardown/rebuild?
08:34 <TheGasGiant> pretty excited about it
08:34 <TheGasGiant> teardown and rebuild
08:34 <TheGasGiant> bbiab....
08:34 <TheGasGiant> in 10
08:34 <CoderForLife> That's what I was thinking
08:34 <CoderForLife> k
08:34 <hawmps> Oh.. Don... did I tell you how much I'm 'feeling that wall' at the moment....
08:34 <CoderForLife> no, but I bet
08:34 <hawmps> damn my shoulders hurt..
08:35 <CoderForLife> my contractor just called, confirming directions for his guys bringing equipment
08:35 <CoderForLife> hopefully my pains will go away soon
08:35 <hawmps> pain just confirms that you are indeed still alive.
08:37 <CoderForLife> man, am I alive
08:38 <TheGasGiant> back
08:39 <TheGasGiant> a quick 10...
09:02 <hawmps> at it again >> 188.8.131.52
09:05 <CoderForLife> dear dear
09:05 <CoderForLife> sproinked
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10:56 <hawmps> a nutterone 184.108.40.206
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11:26 <PovAdct_w> hmm nasty stuff
11:26 <PovAdct_w> we had a power outage
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11:26 <PovAdct_w> now the exchange server won't start
11:27 <PovAdct_w> someone is working on it... while cursing, and complaining for the lack of UPS
11:41 <Tank_Master> heh
11:41 <Tank_Master> they didnt deliver the power they said they would?
11:41 <PovAdct_w> looks like corrupted exchange database
11:42 <Tank_Master> haha
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12:43 <quail> &wx ypad
12:43 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 50Â°F / 10Â°C | Humidity: 76% | Pressure: 30.45in / 1031hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 2:00 AM CST; Scattered Clouds. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 ° F. (1 more message)
12:48 <PovAdct_w> still trying to fix DB :/
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12:57 <quail> PovAdct_w: nope I am working on a type a mk. iii
12:57 <Tank_Master> &cyborg LART
12:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: L.A.R.T.: Lifeform Assembled for Repair and Troubleshooting
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13:06 <KathrynM> PovAdct_w, you have more patience with that guy than I would. I would have told him to rtfm by now.
13:06 <PovAdct_w> who
13:06 <KathrynM> atif awan
13:07 <PovAdct_w> you'll know what "patience" is when you see us trying to fix the exchange server here at w$%&
13:07 <KathrynM> lol
13:07 <PovAdct_w> integrity check says everything is OK, mounting the databases says they are corrupted
13:07 <KathrynM> any violence yet?
13:08 <PovAdct_w> there will be if the other guy gets yet another phone call saying "hey, is the mail server up? I can't connect"
13:08 <KathrynM> uh oh. cow*@&er violence
13:09 <PovAdct_w> and there would be more violence if we could get our hands on some M$ employee involved with exchange development
13:09 <KathrynM> lol
13:11 <CoderForLife> 6 worker onsite
13:11 <CoderForLife> er workers
13:11 <KathrynM> yay!
13:11 <CoderForLife> they have gotten the 14 ton track hoe around the house
13:12 <PovAdct_w> soon enough, people here will say w$%& and we won't know if they mean "work" or "wall"...
13:12 <KathrynM> hopefully without crashing into the house
13:12 <CoderForLife> we had to cut down the dogwood, but it was the safest thing to do
13:12 <KathrynM> :(
13:12 <CoderForLife> we can get another one for $100 or so
13:13 <KathrynM> better than ripping things out of the ground
13:13 <PovAdct_w> that's pocket change compared to the wall?
13:13 <KathrynM> pennies compared to the wall
13:13 <CoderForLife> they drove right on top of the stump
13:13 <CoderForLife> yeah, not a big deal, just didn't want to unless we had to
13:14 <CoderForLife> that's "decimal dust" =)
13:14 <KathrynM> work starting on it today?
13:14 <CoderForLife> yup, first guy came about 9:30
13:14 <CoderForLife> brought the track hoe
13:14 <CoderForLife> I took pics on my cell phone - I'll get those posted a bit later
13:15 * PovAdct_w checks webcam
13:15 <PovAdct_w> hmm you may want to adjust brightness CFL
13:15 <CoderForLife> bright sunshine ATM
13:15 <CoderForLife> full overhead sun
13:15 <PovAdct_w> camera burning its retina
13:15 <PovAdct_w> er
13:15 <PovAdct_w> sensor
13:16 <CoderForLife> no way to adjust that automagically
13:16 <KathrynM> sun? really? dark here :-p
13:16 <PovAdct_w> no automatic brightness?
13:16 <CoderForLife> all your sun are belong to us
13:16 <KathrynM> so you stole it
13:16 <PovAdct_w> chown -R us /base
13:16 <KathrynM> lol
13:17 <CoderForLife> zackly
13:17 <quail> wow this set is going to be a nightmare, it been butchered that much
13:17 <KathrynM> I love geek humor
13:17 <PovAdct_w> DB repair 50%
13:18 <PovAdct_w> KathrynM: there are shirts on sale with that chown command
13:18 <quail> KathrynM: I am restoring a wwii spy transciever atm
13:19 <CoderForLife> when I left "the boys" they were running to get some lumch, and working on the track hoe
13:20 <CoderForLife> it is a big beastie machine
13:20 <CoderForLife> Stephen is looking at the web cam now, PovAdct_w
13:20 <PovAdct_w> UPDATE base SET belong='us' WHERE belong='you'
13:21 <quail> CoderForLife: howdy
13:21 <KathrynM> PovAdct_w, I've told my brother what I want for my birthday. We'll see if I get it.
13:21 * CoderForLife SQLs with delight
13:21 <Romulus> Title: xkcd store (at store.xkcd.com)
13:21 <KathrynM> the linux cheatsheet shirt
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13:22 <CoderForLife> howdy quail
13:22 * KathrynM groans
13:23 <quail> CoderForLife: I will have some pics up on the web later for you to look at of the wwii spy radio I am currently working on
13:23 <CoderForLife> cool, let me know
13:23 <KathrynM> sounds cool quail
13:26 * Tank_Master whips KathrynM with a mouse cord
13:26 <quail> kinky
13:26 <PovAdct_w> /o\
13:26 <KathrynM> on that note, I think I'll leave
13:27 <PovAdct_w> someone passed by asking if the mail server was up
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13:32 <CoderForLife> I'm going back outside to see that the wallies are up to
13:32 <CoderForLife> bbiab
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13:35 <sethy> boo
13:36 * sethy summons CoderForLife and PovAdct_w / PovAddict
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13:37 <sethy> summon me when you're back CFL
13:38 <sethy> and i'll call spit
13:40 <PovAdct_w> moo
13:40 <sethy> moo
13:40 <PovAdct_w> CFL went away exactly 3 minutes before you joined
13:40 <sethy> ;_;
13:40 <sethy> i need to restart
13:41 <PovAdct_w> there's workers at his house finally starting with the Big Wall
13:41 <sethy> ahh thats good then, i'll wait till he's done so i can get update info so i can inform pit
13:41 <sethy> spit*
13:42 <sethy> brb sorry guys
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13:42 <PovAdct_w> kk
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13:44 <quail> oh damn shweet the meter looks to be a worker :-D
13:44 <sethy> back
13:45 <PovAdct_w> front
13:45 <sethy> side
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14:00 <hawmps> ploof.
14:01 <quail> ceiling
14:09 <hawmps> lol - 'Straight Crude' was $106 -- Light Sweet & Poofy was more...
14:19 <CoderForLife> track hoe digging a ramp on web cam - sorry for the bright sunshine - no adjustment available on web cam
14:20 * PovAdct_w pokes sethy
14:20 <CoderForLife> shade is moving over site
14:20 <CoderForLife> bbiab
14:21 <sethy> link to cam please?
14:21 <sethy> ohi guys _o/
14:22 <sethy> where is the poke function? :P
14:29 <sethy> TRACTORR
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15:05 <quail> CoderForLife: I saw your steps went
15:05 <CoderForLife> yep the steps have been removed
15:06 <CoderForLife> I haven't told the guys they're being "televised" =)
15:06 <quail> and an aussie is watching :-P
15:07 <CoderForLife> Let's see - Australia, South Korea, UK, Argentina
15:08 <CoderForLife> progress....
15:08 <CoderForLife> after oh these many months
15:08 <quail> tell them chop chop I want to see more wore less standing around :-P
15:11 <CoderForLife> they took a break after carrying the steps away
15:11 <CoderForLife> they are working on sawing up the tree now
15:13 <CoderForLife> the cam is an indoor web cam, being pointed out the window - sorry it doesn't do so well in full sunlight
15:16 <quail> CoderForLife: can you do higher res. on the web cam? eg 640x480?
15:16 <CoderForLife> I'll have to ask Stephen
15:19 <quail> :-)
15:20 <CoderForLife> 320 x 240 30fps - we can't change it on the fly - it is what it is for now
15:20 <CoderForLife> it's cheap =)
15:20 <CoderForLife> at least you can see what I've been dealing with
15:21 <quail> yep
15:21 <CoderForLife> did you see the timber gif?
15:21 <quail> yep
15:22 <CoderForLife> the chipper is going in the front yard - chainsaw in the back
15:22 <CoderForLife> bbiab - need to "inspect" things
15:22 <quail> k
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16:04 <xcamel> re-hi
16:06 <CoderForLife> re-hi2
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16:09 <CoderForLife> ah, progress!
16:09 <xcamel> scratches in the sand?
16:09 <CoderForLife> 14 ton scratches
16:10 <CoderForLife> 2nd tree (actually a very tall stump) is down now
16:10 <xcamel> progress indeed.
16:10 <CoderForLife> all I can hear is chain-sawing and the chipper
16:11 <CoderForLife> a bee-yoo-tee-full sound
16:12 * CoderForLife sits back and lets out a sigh of relief
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16:45 <up365> LHC back but apparently no work until next week and the start of LHC. Server status up - out of work. Communication deferred.
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17:11 <Tank_Master> heh
17:13 <xcamel> hoh
17:13 <Tank_Master> hah
17:21 <xcamel> muz be dinnah..
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18:30 <xcamel> back again
18:31 <CoderForLife> going outside to inspect the accomplishments of the day
18:31 <CoderForLife> bbiab
18:32 * PovAddict looks at the webcam image and mumbles something about JPEG
18:33 <xcamel> Current Credit: 9,669,135.07
18:33 <xcamel> lol - wave at the camera...
19:02 <CoderForLife> what?
19:03 <CoderForLife> is there a problem?
19:04 * CoderForLife looks at the web cam jpg
19:04 <CoderForLife> hmm
19:05 <PovAddict> I just noticed too strong JPEG artifacts when I looked at it
19:05 * PovAddict can easily notice those, his eyes are trained for that by now
19:06 <CoderForLife> artifacts? like archeological treasures? should I run outside?
19:06 <PovAddict> lol nope
19:06 <CoderForLife> oh
19:06 <CoderForLife> shucks
19:07 <CoderForLife> I was hoping for the grail, or the lost ark
19:07 <CoderForLife> or even Noah's Ark
19:07 <MTughan> Maybe some Spanish treasure?
19:08 <CoderForLife> pieces of eight, me heartie, arrrgh
19:08 <wdsmia> Don's likely to find Jimmy Hoffa lol
19:08 <CoderForLife> shhhhhh
19:09 <CoderForLife> plink 220.127.116.11
19:11 <CoderForLife> you seeing an orange line PovAddict?
19:12 <PovAddict> where
19:12 <PovAddict> cam?
19:12 <CoderForLife> yes - just asking
19:12 <PovAddict> 'tis loadin'
19:12 <PovAddict> looks as good as it always did...
19:12 <CoderForLife> ok.. just trying to figure out your comments
19:13 <CoderForLife> did you see the "timber" gif
19:13 <PovAddict> it's subtle, looks as if it had been compressed with JPEG twice
19:13 <PovAddict> is jazer.com your server too?
19:13 <CoderForLife> Stephen's
19:13 <PovAddict> explains it not loading - trying proxy
19:13 <CoderForLife> locally hosted
19:13 <PovAddict> your ISP hates me
19:14 <CoderForLife> The RoadRunner hates you
19:15 <CoderForLife> they also took out the "stump tree" right behind it
19:16 <PovAddict> now suddenly DNS doesn't work so I can't even use the proxy
19:16 <PovAddict> v.v
19:17 <CoderForLife> how low?? http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/02/breaking-democrats-release-sarah-palins-soc/
19:20 <CoderForLife> that's sick
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19:23 <xcamel> not a real release - misleading headline..
19:23 <CoderForLife> look at the PDF - VIN numbers, etc
19:23 <xcamel> and you have to dig through a 63 page PDF to find it redacted
19:24 <xcamel> doesn't mean for a second that the opposition aren't PIGS.
19:24 <CoderForLife> I'm disgusted
19:26 <xcamel> that would be an understatement.
19:29 <CoderForLife> well - I'm going to go watch Joe and Fred - whenever they come on
19:30 <xcamel> it'll be much later..
19:30 <CoderForLife> I can't find the times
19:32 <xcamel> probably around 9 eastern
19:32 <sethy> boo
19:33 <xcamel> CNN: McCain Cancels Larry King Live Appearance
19:33 <xcamel> McCain campaign said Campbell Brown interview of spokesman Tucker Bounds was 'over the line.'
19:34 <CoderForLife> this is all a bit nuts
19:34 <xcamel> way cool...
19:34 <xcamel> oops use this one
19:35 <CoderForLife> too.. late.. loading.. slowly,,
19:35 <xcamel> 220 mph, 108mpg
19:35 <CoderForLife> nice
19:35 <xcamel> 70mpg on highway cruise
19:35 <CoderForLife> off to the TV - cya all soon
19:38 <PovAddict> sethy: didja call?
19:39 <sethy> no i fell asleep :$
19:39 <sethy> the storm scared me
19:39 <sethy> then on my calm down i think i calmed down too much
19:41 <sethy> i need foods that will make me fat
19:41 <sethy> ideas?
19:42 <PovAddict> why? are you low on weight like me?
19:44 <sethy> i weigh 49KG
19:45 <sethy> you?
19:45 <Romulus> hmm... you are upper fayl, sethy
19:45 <sethy> thanks
19:47 <PovAddict> lol Romulus
19:47 <PovAddict> 49? that's low...
19:48 <PovAddict> I think I'm on 54 which is still low for my age and height
19:48 <PovAddict> or so the doctor said
19:51 <sethy> how tall?
19:59 <xcamel> about 4 cubits
20:01 <sethy> i'm only 5ft 8 :(
20:01 <sethy> my BMI is 16.4
20:03 <sethy> girlfriend isnt happy that i look like a twig
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20:11 <KathrynM> sethy, I can send both you and PovAddict a few extra pounds
20:11 <KathrynM> ya skinny little kids
20:11 <KathrynM> get off my lawn :-p
20:12 <sethy> NOT LITTLE, just fun sized
20:12 <KathrynM> :)
20:12 <KathrynM> off to hit the showers.
20:12 <KathrynM> later gators
20:15 <infinisoft> anyone checked out this google browser?
20:15 <xcamel> not yet...
20:15 <xcamel> got a link yet?
20:17 <xcamel> "Google Chrome for Linux is in development and a team of engineers is working hard to bring it to you as soon as possible."
20:17 <xcamel> yeah... right.
20:18 <PovAddict> it's just webkit internally
20:19 <PovAddict> with all-new innovative features like running each tab on its own process, so if one crashes it doesn't take down the whole browser
20:19 <PovAddict> ...or not so innovative, IE8 has that
20:19 <PovAddict> :P
20:19 <xcamel> but but ...it's not winduhs...
20:20 * PovAddict hates web apps
20:21 <PovAddict> I have barely used GMail web interface since they added IMAP, for example
20:23 <xcamel> I only use gmail wheh away on business
20:27 <PovAddict> I can't believe they mention tab isolation (separate processes) as innovative, when Microsoft did it months ago in Internet Explorer 8 beta...
20:30 <sethy> i prefer the firefox ubiquity to the IE8-BETA application interface
20:36 <PovAddict> don't try google chrome for the first time without a packet capturing program running
20:37 <PovAddict> to see how much private data they're sending back "home"
20:41 <PovAddict> lol... on Linux I have *always* seen Flash on its own separate process
20:42 <xcamel> flash 10 for linux has a 'curl bug' on install
20:53 <xcamel> laterz..
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22:17 <kathryn_work> hello all
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22:30 <zombie67> hi
22:31 <kathryn_work> hiya zombie67
22:32 <PovIpod> hi
22:32 <PovIpod> I won't complain for the lack of self-censorship in your nickname :)
22:33 <kathryn_work> whoops
22:33 <PovIpod> (w$&@ may not work in a nickname)
22:33 <kathryn_work> that's what I get looking for lesson plans at the same time I put in my nick
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22:37 <kathryn_work> gotta go to class. laters all
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