IRC logs of #boinc for Tuesday, 2008-09-09

00:11 <efc> i hope the sci fi channel has stockpiled a few nukes, just in case there are LHC problems

00:11 <efc> I mean.. you know thats the solution

00:11 <Tank_Master> lol

00:12 <Tank_Master> pov is a burger flipper

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02:05 <efc> strikestar needs some sensors on the Yucatan

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02:58 <Soul_keeper>   check it out i got my stimulus check

02:58 <Romulus> <> (at

02:58 <Soul_keeper> i'm bought to stimulate the economy

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03:38 <Soul_keeper> ok jay leno just gave akon a full body embrace, that must mean it's time to go to sleep ....

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04:15 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

04:16 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 67.1F / 19.5C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 29.92in / 1013.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Cloudy with a chance of showers and thunderstorms through early afternoon. Becoming partly sunny late. Highs in the lower 70s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50 percent.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s. (1 more message)

04:16 <CoderForLife> &more

04:16 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the mid 70s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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04:36 <KathrynM> &wx 44137

04:36 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 58.8F / 14.9C | Humidity: 96% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Heavy Rain | Wind Direction: NE | Wind Speed: 3.0mph / 4.8km/h ; Today - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms early...then cloudy with a chance of showers this morning becoming mostly sunny late in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid (1 more message)

04:36 <KathrynM> &more

04:36 <Romulus> KathrynM: 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;

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05:12 <KathrynM>

05:12 <Romulus> <> (at

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05:24 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#% - bbiab

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06:03 <CoderForLife> off to w@#%

06:26 <hawmps> 'loo

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07:45 <hawmps> wowza...

07:45 <hawmps> this storm front is a mean one...

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07:50 <KathrynM> finally packed

08:00 <hawmps> then a good nights sleep?

08:01 <KathrynM> hopefully

08:01 <hawmps> visas all straightened out?

08:02 <KathrynM> yup

08:02 <KathrynM> good thing I rememered before leaving the country

08:02 <hawmps> nasty storm front going through

08:02 <KathrynM> :(

08:02 <KathrynM> &wx 44137

08:02 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 58.3F / 14.6C | Humidity: 98% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017.2hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 1.0mph / 1.6km/h ; Today - Cloudy with a chance of showers this morning...then becoming mostly sunny late in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 60s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the mid 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wednesday - (1 more message)

08:03 <KathrynM> &more

08:03 <Romulus> KathrynM: Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. East winds 5 to 10 mph.;

08:05 <hawmps> it's going to feel like fall back home...

08:08 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

08:08 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 74°F / 24°C | Humidity: 64% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 8mph / 13km/h | Updated: 6:00 PM KST; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:78 F. / 26 C.; Clear. Low:66 F. / 19 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:77 F. / 25 C.; Chance of Rain. Low:66 F. (1 more message)

08:08 <KathrynM> &more

08:08 <Romulus> KathrynM: / 19 C.;

08:08 <KathrynM> bit cooler

08:08 <KathrynM> and rainier

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08:28 <KathrynM> time for bed.

08:28 <KathrynM> i cleaned out the fridge so I don't come home to an alien civilization in there

08:29 <hawmps> nn - have a safe trip..

08:29 <KathrynM> thanks

08:29 <KathrynM> i'll try to leave a message with pov (I have him on gtalk) when I get into town

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13:28 * quail at a big lose atm

13:30 <quail> my mum has a p4 3.06GHz machine with 1.5GB ram and the CPU is being flogged hard with playing games at

13:30 <quail> under linux that is

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14:27 <saenger> moin yoyo

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14:59 <hawmps> LHC countdown?

15:01 <saenger> the end is near ;)

15:02 * quail is about to fix some new glass to a meter

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15:14 <quail> now that bit glass in its bacerlite casing looks good now

15:17 <Tank_Master> what kind of meter?

15:18 <quail> rf meter

15:19 <quail> I am working on my wwii 'type a mk. iii' spy radio atm

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16:00 <xcamel> ip kill >>

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16:11 <quail> xcamel: thanks

16:11 <xcamel> np

16:16 <quail> laptops, electronics, soldering iron are not a good mix

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17:01 <desti>

17:01 <Romulus> Title: Has the Large Hadron Collider destroyed the earth yet? (at

17:05 <PovAddict> nice desti

17:06 <PovAddict> desti: look at the HTML source

17:07 <desti> heh

17:08 <PovAddict> I've seen a similar website before

17:08 <PovAddict>

17:08 <Romulus> Title: Is it Christmas? (at

17:10 <CoderForLife> hey all

17:11 <PovAddict> hi

17:11 <CoderForLife> hey PovAddict

17:11 <CoderForLife> Is Chinese dirt gray?  Is so, they've made it

17:12 <PovAddict> hard to tell

17:14 <PovAddict> search for worms in the hole

17:14 <PovAddict> you probably can tell if they're chinese worms from the eye shape

17:15 <xcamel> another kill >>

17:15 <xcamel> chinese dirt, eh?

17:15 <CoderForLife> jes checkin

17:16 <CoderForLife> they're digging it up

17:16 <xcamel> been there, done that...

17:16 <CoderForLife> maybe it's the foundation of the Great Wall of China

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17:18 <xcamel> they caused the earthquake in Vanatu...

17:19 <CoderForLife> the house shakes like it here

17:19 <CoderForLife> I was out on the deck, until it shook

17:19 <CoderForLife> sent me back inside in a hurry

17:23 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:24 <xcamel> dinner..

17:27 <Didactylos> PovAddict: the difference is, that site doesn't work. It doesn't have a clue about concepts like time zones.

17:29 <CoderForLife> just talked to the guys

17:29 <CoderForLife> one claims to hear Chinese when he's down in the hole

17:31 <Tank_Master> what are time zones?

17:32 <Tank_Master> are they fractures in the space=time continum?

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17:32 <CoderForLife> maybe it's Chinese snoring he's hearing

17:32 <Tank_Master> lol

17:32 <PovAddict> the world weirdness that causes Kathryn to go to work at the time you might be going to sleep

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17:32 <PovAddict> that's what timezones are

17:32 <CoderForLife> the other one has hearing screams of agony

17:33 <CoderForLife> but he thinks that it was the bobcat climbing a grade steeper than it's design maximum

17:33 * Tank_Master wonders if LHC will have any work tomorrow

17:34 <CoderForLife> they're done for today

17:34 <Tank_Master> or if the world will end

17:34 <PovAddict> Tank_Master: probably; stay attached

17:34 <xcamel> those screams were CFL's wallet...

17:34 <Tank_Master> :P

17:34 <CoderForLife> chances are more the former than the latter

17:34 * Tank_Master check the "attach to all: in BAM! just to make sure

17:35 <Tank_Master> checks*

17:35 <CoderForLife> this is fixed price, so the screaming is now the foreman

17:35 <CoderForLife> he said he's been doing this 10 years, and has never hauled this much out

17:35 <Tank_Master> lol

17:36 <CoderForLife> they are paying for each truckload out of my fixed price

17:37 <CoderForLife> this was day 5

17:37 <Tank_Master> why wont LHC work with the 6.x clients?

17:37 <Tank_Master> ugg!

17:37 <quail> CoderForLife: hi

17:38 <CoderForLife> hi quail

17:38 <PovAddict> because their code and server are ancient

17:38 <Tank_Master> but I have to use 6.3.10 for PS3grid!

17:38 <Tank_Master> I think the credits for pe3 outway what Id get tom LCH

17:38 <Tank_Master> PS3*

17:39 <Tank_Master> so, when tomorrow will the world end?

17:39 <PovAddict> in 9 hours

17:39 <Tank_Master> but thats today!?!

17:40 <CoderForLife> when you wake up you'll be dead

17:40 <Tank_Master> sweet!

17:40 <Tank_Master> wait...

17:40 <Tank_Master> how can I wake up if I am dead?

17:40 <Tank_Master> n actually I wont have gone to bed yet

17:40 <CoderForLife> it is a profound mystery

17:40 <Tank_Master> 9h form now will be 11:45

17:40 <CoderForLife> or as Mark Twain said...

17:41 <CoderForLife> if he knew the world was going to end tomorrow...

17:41 <CoderForLife> he'd move to Cincinnati and live comfortably for 3 more years

17:41 <Tank_Master> lol

17:41 <CoderForLife> besides...

17:42 <CoderForLife> we are going to get this wall built

17:42 <xcamel> and the coldest winter he ever spent was summer in San Francisco.

17:43 <PovAddict> ok so it was 13 hours

17:43 <PovAddict> <- from sethy

17:45 <Tank_Master> 27h?

17:45 <Tank_Master> you said 9h!

17:45 <Tank_Master> 17*

17:45 <PovAddict> ok his stupid countdown is also timezone-impaired then

17:45 <Tank_Master> LOL

17:45 <Tank_Master> thats sad

17:47 <xcamel> .00000000000762 parsecs

17:48 <Tank_Master> so itll be at 8:30 whatever timezone CERN is in?

17:49 <xcamel> closer to 9 or 10 PM

17:50 <PovAddict>

17:50 <Romulus> <> (at

17:50 <Tank_Master> the webcasts starts at 8:30

17:56 <CoderForLife> going outside to listen for some Chinese myself - bbiab

18:00 <KathrynM> moaning

18:01 <PovAddict> hey!

18:01 <KathrynM> hey

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18:01 <Tank_Master> KM!

18:02 <KathrynM> I barely slept

18:03 <PovAddict> what continent are you in?

18:03 <KathrynM> asia

18:03 <KathrynM> I fly out in about 4 hours

18:06 <Tank_Master> where to?

18:06 <PovAddict> US

18:06 <KathrynM> ohio

18:06 <Tank_Master> ahh

18:06 <Tank_Master> what brings you home?

18:06 <KathrynM> my mom died

18:06 <Tank_Master> oh

18:06 <Tank_Master> sorry to hear that

18:07 <KathrynM> thanks

18:07 <Tank_Master> thought maybe you wanted to be with friends and family when the world ends tomorrow :P

18:07 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master

18:07 <Tank_Master> or today, depending on your timezone...

18:07 <Tank_Master> hehe

18:08 <PovAddict> 1/50000000th chance is a huge overestimate

18:08 <Tank_Master> yeah, well

18:08 <Tank_Master> fun to imagen

18:15 <Didactylos> PovAddict: seems you missed the joke.

18:16 <Didactylos> The LHC page can always say NO, because if the world ends, there won't be an Internet.

18:16 <PovAddict> which joke?

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18:17 <Didactylos> It's like the webpage that says "Is the internet working?" YES

18:17 <PovAddict> what makes you think I missed the joke of that page?

18:18 <Didactylos> You were trying to work out when it should change.

18:18 * Tank_Master doesnt get it

18:18 <PovAddict> nope, I was complaining how sethy's countdown for when LHC fires up didn't work with timezones

18:19 <Didactylos> The "Is it christmas" one has no joke, and (since it doesn't work) no point.

18:19 <PovAddict> "when LHC starts", not "when world ends" or "when the page will change"

18:19 <PovAddict> and the "is it christmas" one does work

18:19 <CoderForLife> back

18:20 <Didactylos> Heh. If the Christmas one worked the same way as sethy's, then it would work.

18:20 * efc estimates we'll be able to head off the LHC catastrophe with a precisely placed and positioned set of nukes

18:20 <Didactylos> But last Christmas, it was using server time, and didn't work. Maybe they fixed it?

18:21 <xcamel> back from walk

18:21 <CoderForLife> wb

18:21 <CoderForLife> I am back from the center of the earth

18:21 <Didactylos> Methinks too many journalists have seen too many dumb sci-fi movies.

18:22 <CoderForLife> I am happy to report, no quasars there yet

18:22 <Didactylos> I cringe when I see bad science on TV.

18:23 <efc> Bleh, you scientist types just wait. Its going to be a huge apostrophe.

18:23 <Didactylos> Just yesterday, there was this amazing computer virus that was *encoded in a fingerprint*.

18:23 <PovAddict> cool

18:23 <PovAddict> o_õ

18:23 <Didactylos> I had to crank up the suspension of disbelief quite a lot for that one.

18:24 <Didactylos> PovAddict: encoded in a fingerprint: easy. Encoded in such a way that the virus is transferred to the finger print scanner ans attached network....

18:25 <PovAddict> yeah right

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18:25 <efc> Heh, it is conceivable that the correct image could infect a scanner's firmware..

18:25 <PovAddict> grab virus source code

18:25 <PovAddict> print it

18:25 <PovAddict> scan it

18:25 <PovAddict> security bug in scanner driver causes remote execution

18:25 <PovAddict> yeah right

18:25 <efc> If your scanner driver ever crashes, there's a chance..

18:25 <Didactylos> That would be some bug.

18:25 <PovAddict> indeed

18:26 <efc> Sounds nuts but then some of the various exploits sound pretty crazy and work well in the wild

18:26 <PovAddict> reminds me of the guides I read for hacking the xbox360

18:27 <Didactylos> It's actually really really hard to encode digital data in such a way that it can be scanned and reformed into the original.

18:27 <PovAddict> Didactylos: is it? barcodes work and they don't seem *that* hard

18:27 <Didactylos> So doing it by accident seems rather a stretch.... even assuming that the firmware does contain malicious code to execute data.

18:28 <PovAddict> or I'm misunderstanding that sentence

18:28 <Didactylos> PovAddict: if you can fit a virus into a barcode.....

18:28 <Didactylos> I forget how many bits of data a barcode contains, but it's not much.

18:28 <PovAddict> I saw some product (a failure) to send sound by snail mail

18:29 <Didactylos> Why would it fail? Musical birthday cards work fine....

18:29 <PovAddict> you recorded your voice and it printed a strange pattern, then you sent it, the recipient scanned it with the handheld device and played it back

18:29 <Didactylos> Hah! Dumb on so many, many levels.

18:29 <PovAddict> I don't remember how big the pattern was

18:30 <PovAddict> and yes it does sound quite stupid :)

18:31 <Didactylos> I think the best data density is acheived by those square block barcodes that are used by shipping companies.

18:31 <efc> I seem to remember a JPG exploit not too long ago.. I think the 'payload' was in the metadata, though

18:31 <xcamel> iirc.. the squarecode contains 1K of data

18:32 <PovAddict> efc: yes, a corrupted metadata chunk; it also seems plausible that the decompression code for the actual image was vulnerable

18:32 <Didactylos>

18:32 <Romulus> <> (at

18:33 <PovAddict> there are codes just like that (well, less resolution) in advertisements in the subway here

18:34 <PovAddict> apparently you can take a picture of the code and download a song (the code is just an identifier; of course the song itself is not in the pictured block)

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18:40 <xcamel> well well.. has "Dear Leader" become "Deer Carcass"

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18:46 <KathrynM_> signing off

18:46 <KathrynM_> laters all

18:46 <CoderForLife> tc safe travels

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18:46 <CoderForLife> wb to Ohio

18:54 <xcamel> needs to go get coffee..

18:57 <CoderForLife> beverage bbreak myself

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19:07 <Didactylos> I need to work out a clustering algorithm.

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19:17 <xcamel> yum

19:18 <CoderForLife> going to go sit and talk to the wife - need to do that every so often =)

19:18 <CoderForLife> gn boinclanders

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19:22 <PovAddict> Didactylos: oh?

19:23 <Didactylos> Merging nearby points at different scales. It's a map problem.

19:23 <Didactylos>

19:23 <Romulus> Title: Team UserFriendly.Org - Project Map (at

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19:42 <xcamel> hum-de-dum..

19:48 <efc> Strikestar needs a Yucatan detector.

20:11 <xcamel> lol

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20:50 * efc wonders who the super hot girl is that goes walking the same time he goes running

20:56 <xcamel> fake a heart attack...

20:57 <efc> Most of my ideas would violate the terms of my probation

20:59 <xcamel> oh well..

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21:02 <efc> It wouldn't, if it was a real heart attack

21:08 <efc> i seem to have overdone it running again, nasty blood looking blister

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