IRC logs of #boinc for Friday, 2008-09-12

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01:12 <CoderForLife> wall crew just left - I'm exhausted

01:13 <CoderForLife> gn er gm

01:16 <efc> Night

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05:46 <xcamel> ip kill >>

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07:01 <CoderForLife> ouch, my head

07:01 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

07:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 69.8°F / 21.0°C | Humidity: 91% | Pressure: 30.00in / 1015.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Showers with a chance of thunderstorms. Highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy with showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Muggy. Lows around 70. Southwest (1 more message)

07:01 <CoderForLife> &more

07:01 <Romulus> CoderForLife: winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 70 percent.; Saturday - Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 60 percent.;

07:04 <hawmps> uh-huh

07:04 <hawmps> and ditto..

07:05 <hawmps> webcam dead?

07:07 <CoderForLife> still dark

07:07 <CoderForLife> they raised 18 feet of wall yesterday

07:08 <CoderForLife> stopped at 1:15am

07:08 <CoderForLife> I was fer shure that the police would be pounding on my door last night

07:09 <CoderForLife> about 6 more vertical feet to go

07:09 <CoderForLife> with the rain, they won't be back until Monday

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07:18 <hawmps> ah..

07:27 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast and head-betters, then tell them at w@#% that I'll finish my part of the 2009 budget at home

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08:08 <CoderForLife> you can see now, hawmps

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08:24 <hawmps> cool..

08:25 <CoderForLife> yeah - about 6 more feet to go vertically

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08:28 <hawmps> are they dropping some rerod down inside the blocks?

08:33 <CoderForLife> no - rock fill

08:33 <hawmps> crushed stone?

08:33 <CoderForLife> it's the geogrid that provides lateral stability

08:34 <CoderForLife> yeah, crushed

08:34 <hawmps> hmm..

08:34 <CoderForLife> the stuff you can see in the pix

08:35 <hawmps> how do those blocks lock together?

08:35 <CoderForLife> concrete lips, gravity

08:35 <hawmps> they do have a lip then...

08:36 <CoderForLife> yes - and that's what requires the set-back

08:36 <CoderForLife> these are 6 degree Allan Block Classic

08:36 <CoderForLife> there's a 12 degree model called Allan Block Stones

08:37 <hawmps> I would still put re-rod in from 3' below the frostline to the course below the caps

08:37 <hawmps> but that's just me.

08:37 <CoderForLife> that would be ultra-safe

08:38 <CoderForLife> this all seems to be according to the design specs

08:39 <CoderForLife> one contractor wanted to drive rebar to "pin" the bottom 2 courses to the bedrock - my contractor would hear none of that

08:39 <hawmps> that way it would still stay put even if the entire hillside made an exit...

08:40 <CoderForLife> we're way below the "slipface" of the landslide, and have this massive "plug" sitting oon a 20 foot wide shelf

08:40 <CoderForLife> as a matter of fact, the hill was weeping into the hole, you could see each morning

08:44 <CoderForLife> the rain blob cometh

08:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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09:57 <hawmps> IP KILL >>

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10:16 <CoderForLife> kilt

10:16 <CoderForLife> wb Pie

10:21 <hawmps> ditto on the rain...

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10:22 <CoderForLife> seems to be passing to the south of me, for the most part

10:22 <CoderForLife> so far...

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11:06 <CoderForLife> it's good to be inside the weather slot, except when it closes like a vise

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11:07 <tsdh> Hi

11:07 <CoderForLife> hello tsdh - welcome to #boinc

11:07 <CoderForLife> pretty quiet here today

11:09 <tsdh> I've just installed boinc 6.2.16 on a GNU/Linux system, but whenever I start boinc_gui it says it cannot connect.

11:09 <tsdh> Or better, ist just says "(X) Error"

11:09 <CoderForLife> oh

11:10 <CoderForLife> I was thinking password problem

11:10 <CoderForLife> is that all it says?

11:10 <tsdh> Maybe.  I don't even know where to enter a password...

11:11 <tsdh> Yeah, that's all.  In the terminal it says "connect: Operation now in progress".

11:11 <CoderForLife> there's a file in the boinc install directory that contains the password that allows the gui to connect to the boinc process via RPC

11:11 <tsdh> I've started boinc_client with an init script.

11:12 <tsdh> Oh, in the config file RPC is disabled. ;-)

11:13 <CoderForLife> the file I'm thinking of is gui_rpc_auth.cfg

11:13 <CoderForLife> I always remove the encoded password there, as I don't need that security

11:14 <tsdh> Hm, now I allow RPC and restarted boinc_client, but still it fails.  boinc_gui --insecure doesn't work too.

11:15 <hawmps> never can figure out the program I need to see who/what is hammering my bandwidth..

11:15 <CoderForLife> tcpdump, hawmps?

11:15 <hawmps> need one that just shows the top 'packet takers'

11:18 <CoderForLife> seems like tcpdump to file, and then a shell script to process it would help

11:18 <hawmps> too many people trying to dl that graphic at the same time..

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11:30 <hawmps> checking webalizer - that's damn handy..

11:30 <CoderForLife> oh sure

11:30 <CoderForLife> you don't run that?

11:32 <CoderForLife> APOD is kinda neat

11:34 <CoderForLife> ossec gets concerned when tcpdump puts the NIC into promiscuous mode

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11:39 <hawmps> yes, it does..

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12:19 <MadHag> guys cab I install boinc on my remote server?

12:20 <PovAdct_w> sure

12:20 <MadHag> debian

12:21 <PovAdct_w> what version of debian?

12:21 <MadHag> etch 4.0

12:21 <MadHag> obviously I wont need a gui

12:21 <PovAdct_w> etch has an ancient version of BOINC on its repository

12:22 <MadHag> really, I tried apt get?

12:22 <PovAdct_w> 'bout two years old

12:22 <PovAdct_w> I think some projects won't work at all with that ancient version

12:23 <MadHag> I just uploaded the newest to my server but have not installed yet

12:23 <MadHag> does it have text and gui options

12:24 <MadHag> obviously I will have to log in after installation

12:24 <PovAdct_w> yes, you can use boinc_cmd to control the client

12:25 <PovAdct_w> a pain to use but it works

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12:25 <CoderForLife> you can also connect to the running instance from another machine running the GUI

12:25 <MadHag> all I need to do is get it running, I can vioew stats here on the desktop

12:25 <MadHag> *view

12:25 <MadHag> ah

12:26 <CoderForLife> RPC connection

12:26 <PovAdct_w> yes, the GUI works remotely (once you allow remote connections and set a password)

12:27 <MadHag> ok thanks

12:27 <CoderForLife> hmm

12:27 <MadHag>

12:27 <Romulus> <> (at

12:27 <CoderForLife> &dict supercilious

12:27 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Supercilious \Su`per*cil"i*ous\, a. [L. superciliosus, fr. supercilium an eyebrow, pride; super over, + cilium an eyelid; probably akin to celare to conceal. Cf. {Conceal}.] Lofty with pride; haughty; dictatorial; overbearing; arrogant; as, a supercilious officer; asupercilious air; supercilious behavior. -- {Su`per*cil"i*ous*ly}, adv. -- (4 more messages)

12:27 <CoderForLife> ah

12:28 <MadHag> great word ah heh!

12:28 <MadHag> :)

12:28 <CoderForLife> my vocabulary expands yet again

12:28 <MadHag> ah ok

12:29 <MadHag> almost as bad as sms txt lang

12:29 <CoderForLife> ic =)

12:32 <MadHag> well, its installed now for the fun part

12:32 <PovAdct_w> how did you install it? a .deb?

12:33 * CoderForLife waits for the inevitable first-time RPC password problem

12:33 <CoderForLife> security is rarely convenient

12:34 <Tank_Master> waahhoo!

12:34 <Tank_Master> I have a lhc WU running

12:34 <PovAdct_w> oops I don't

12:34 <Tank_Master> haha

12:34 * CoderForLife looks

12:34 <PovAdct_w> I have a bunch of LHCs in queue but I closed BOINC

12:34 <PovAdct_w> because I was running two VMs at the same time

12:34 <Tank_Master> noob

12:34 <PovAdct_w> needed RAM

12:35 <MadHag> no apt-get

12:35 <MadHag> see the url I posted

12:35 <PovAdct_w> so you have 5.4.11?

12:36 <MadHag> urrr, let me see

12:36 <CoderForLife> I have 3 running, 6 ready to run, and 2 ready to report Tank_Master

12:36 <Tank_Master> 6h for the WO on an overclocked q9450...

12:36 <Tank_Master> WU*

12:36 <PovAdct_w> apt-cache show boinc-client

12:36 <MadHag> manager is

12:36 <PovAdct_w> ok

12:36 <PovAdct_w> the 2-year-old version :)

12:36 <Tank_Master> someone needs to upgrade

12:36 <MadHag> I like it when things are done auto

12:37 <MadHag> they usually work afterwards

12:37 <MadHag> need to setup an acount now

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12:38 <PovAdct_w> first BOINC you install then?

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12:38 <PovAdct_w> you can use the same account on multiple computers

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12:38 <CoderForLife> DTB

12:38 <MadHag> once before years agao

12:39 <MadHag> *ago

12:39 <MadHag> not on a remote though

12:39 <PovAdct_w> well I mean you don't have to create a new account on the project(s)

12:39 <PovAdct_w> as long as you remember your password, that is :)

12:39 <MadHag> should get good results on a dedicated lying idle most of the time

12:39 <MadHag> new account its expired

12:40 <MadHag> with rossetta

12:40 <PovAdct_w> accounts don't expire

12:40 <MadHag> this one has apparently

12:40 <MadHag> something to do with my email address

12:42 <MadHag> just running the cpu benchmarks

12:45 <MadHag> gstate.init() failed: -180  is that bad???

12:45 <PovAdct_w> &boincerr -180

12:45 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: bind() failed

12:46 <PovAdct_w> you might be running the client twice?

12:46 <MadHag> protected?

12:46 <MadHag> shutit down how

12:47 <PovAdct_w> killall boinc_client? not sure what it's called in debian and in that version

12:47 <PovAdct_w> maybe boinc-client

12:47 <PovAdct_w> maybe boinc

12:49 <MadHag> think is it tells me after installation to go to the url and sign up but the command actually needs a password as well as a url

12:49 <PovAdct_w> what command?

12:49 <Romulus> hmm... what command are you using to attach, PovAdct_w

12:49 <MadHag> boinc_cmd [--host hostname] [--passwd passwd] command

12:50 <PovAdct_w> that's the remote control password, not the project password

12:50 <PovAdct_w> leaving it empty should work (ie. no --passwd switch)

12:50 * CoderForLife makes a tick mark for the inevitable password question

12:51 <MadHag> ok

12:53 <MadHag> Authorization failure: -155

12:53 <MadHag> easy heh :)

12:53 <PovAdct_w> ok so leaving it blank doesn't work :) gui_rpc_auth.cfg has the password

12:54 <PovAdct_w> you may change it by editing that file (but you need to restart the client for it to take effect)

12:55 <MadHag> actually I cannot see where you can actually join on the rossetta site?

12:55 <MadHag> click join and there is nothing

12:55 <MadHag>

12:55 <Romulus> Title: Join Rosetta@home (at

12:55 <PovAdct_w> in recent clients, you create the account from the GUI

12:55 <PovAdct_w> or from boinc_cmd

12:55 <MadHag> where though :)

12:55 <PovAdct_w> instead of from the project website

12:55 <PovAdct_w> you don't have a recent client

12:56 <MadHag> hangon boinc_cmd --help

12:56 <PovAdct_w> the create-account-on-website link is probably kinda hidden since it's not needed anymor

12:57 <PovAdct_w> huh - maybe 5.4.11 does have the create account function

12:57 <PovAdct_w> do you see any --create_account in boinc_cmd help?

12:57 <hawmps> that problem comes up too often - starting to sound like a BUG.

12:57 <MadHag>

12:57 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

12:57 <MadHag> :)

12:58 <PovAdct_w> ugh, so old

12:58 <PovAdct_w>

12:58 <Romulus> <> (at

12:58 <PovAdct_w> wait

12:58 <PovAdct_w> that's not boinc_cmd help, MadHag

12:58 <PovAdct_w> that's the core client

12:59 <MadHag> thats --help

12:59 <PovAdct_w> that's boinc --help

12:59 <PovAdct_w> you want boinc_cmd --help

12:59 <MadHag> thanks for the signup page, where did you find that?

12:59 <PovAdct_w> I didn't find it, I just know it's create_account_form

13:00 <MadHag> I am not using 5.2 so that should be ok, thanks

13:00 <PovAdct_w> it says 5.2 *or later*

13:01 <MadHag> I have 5.4

13:01 <MadHag> so I should not use it then

13:01 <MadHag> Just run BOINC, select Attach Project, and enter an email address and password.

13:01 <PovAdct_w> yeah if you had a GUI :)

13:01 <PovAdct_w> can you pastebin the output of boinc_cmd --help?

13:02 <MadHag> ok hangon but I think I did that

13:02 <PovAdct_w> you didn't, you posted boinc --help

13:02 <MadHag> yes it is different sorry

13:02 <PovAdct_w> 'boinc_cmd' controls a running 'boinc'

13:03 <MadHag>

13:03 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

13:03 <PovAdct_w> boinc_cmd before 5.8.16 was particularly user-unfriendly

13:04 <MadHag> creat account poll???

13:04 <MadHag> *creat

13:04 <MadHag> *create

13:04 <PovAdct_w> boinc_cmd --create_account youremail yourpassword yourname

13:04 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

13:04 <PovAdct_w> it will output something completely useless like "retval: 0"

13:04 <MadHag> will try

13:05 <PovAdct_w> then repeatedly use -create_account_poll until it gives your account key, and run boinc_cmd -project_attach accountkey

13:05 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

13:05 * PovAdct_w slaps Romulus

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13:10 <MadHag> I keep getting a auth failure

13:11 <PovAdct_w> authorization failure -155?

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13:11 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --create_account david@******.net ******** MadHag

13:11 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

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13:11 <MadHag> yeah

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13:12 <PovAdct_w> use --passwd with the password in gui_rpc_auth.cfg

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13:12 <MadHag> tried too

13:13 * MadHag makes a coffee

13:17 <CoderForLife> now some real rain

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13:17 <efc> moo

13:18 <CoderForLife> moo yoo

13:18 <hawmps> 'lo Ed

13:19 *** hawmps sets mode: -o hawmps

13:19 <CoderForLife> very interesting

13:19 <Romulus> <> (at

13:20 <hawmps> ..was just reading that one..

13:20 <CoderForLife> that's out on the west side of town - I co-oped at Miami Fort Power Station

13:21 <CoderForLife> this is where the Great Miami River meets the Ohio River

13:22 <hawmps> shows up pretty well on the topo maps if you know what you're looking at..

13:25 <hawmps> rain started..

13:27 <MadHag> back

13:28 <MadHag> will try the syntax a bit

13:28 <MadHag> maybe its me

13:28 <hawmps> syn taxes must be paid.

13:28 <MadHag> I owe a lot then

13:28 <hawmps> ditto.

13:30 <MadHag> hey, could be my firewall I have it setup for virtual host senario and thats all

13:32 <MadHag> nope, not that

13:33 <MadHag> I know what it is I think

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13:45 <PovAdct_w> back

13:46 <MadHag> I just keep getting this 155 auth failure

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13:47 <PovAdct_w> did you find gui_rpc_auth.cfg file?

13:47 <MadHag> no, I will look

13:48 <MadHag> opened it there is what looks like a 128bit key

13:48 <PovAdct_w> use that random stuff in --passwd

13:49 <MadHag> what shall I put in there?

13:50 <PovAdct_w> boinc_cmd --passwd 12389712db12f1f12abe878123 --create_account youremail yourpassword yourname

13:50 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

13:50 <PovAdct_w> replace the obvious with the long key from gui_rpc_auth.cfg

13:50 <PovAdct_w> (I just smashed the keyboard in the example)

13:54 <MadHag> same 155 auth error

13:55 <PovAdct_w> maybe it's -passwd? (single dash)

13:57 <MadHag> will try

13:58 <MadHag> nope

13:58 <PovAdct_w> what's sure is that --passwd has to be before --create_account

13:58 <MadHag> ok

13:59 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --passwd ************************** --create_account david@******.net ******** MadHag

13:59 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

13:59 <PovAdct_w> yep

13:59 <PovAdct_w> auth error?

14:00 <MadHag> should be rossetta as well??

14:00 <MadHag> same

14:00 <MadHag> rosetta

14:00 <PovAdct_w> if it gives -155, it's not even contacting the project yet

14:00 <PovAdct_w> &boincerr -155

14:00 <Romulus> PovAdct_w: authentication error

14:00 <PovAdct_w> try restarting the client

14:00 <docteh> ooo power flicker

14:00 <PovAdct_w> sudo /etc/init.d/boinc-client restart

14:01 <MadHag> ok

14:01 * PovAdct_w shoots water pistol at docteh's power sockets

14:03 <MadHag> same

14:03 <MadHag> this is annoying :)

14:03 <MadHag> maybe no one can join

14:03 <MadHag> I will join via that page and try the info in the term

14:03 <PovAdct_w> this isn't a project problem; you can't make boinc_cmd on your computer talk to the boinc core client on your computer

14:04 <PovAdct_w> was gui_rpc_auth.cfg in /var/lib/boinc? (or /var/lib/boinc-client)

14:04 <MadHag> I have googled a bit and it seems unique so I guess its something simple this end

14:05 <MadHag> no, was in my root

14:05 <MadHag> not even /

14:05 <PovAdct_w> then that's from when you incorrectly ran 'boinc', and it's not the password in use

14:05 <PovAdct_w> look in in /var/lib/boinc

14:05 <MadHag> ok

14:06 * docteh longs for the good ole days before boinc was in distro repositories

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14:07 <PovAdct_w> docteh: the main problem is debian has 5.4.11 which is two years old :)

14:07 <docteh> exactly

14:07 <docteh> im on ubuntu and I didn't even think of apt-get install boinc, i went to the website

14:07 <PovAdct_w> debian should be assumed to have outdated packages until shown otherwise

14:07 <hawmps> he isn't telling you that you can get the ready to run version here:

14:07 <Romulus> Title: Index of /dl (at

14:08 <hawmps> which is a straight single directory install.

14:08 <MadHag> its empty

14:08 <hawmps> ie: not 'distroized'

14:09 <PovAdct_w> wtf

14:09 <MadHag> hangon

14:09 <PovAdct_w> if that file is empty it should be working without any --passwd

14:09 <hawmps> and much easier to deal with when it  comes to upgrading etc.

14:09 <MadHag> yeah its empty

14:10 <MadHag> ......../var/lib/boinc-client  thats were I am

14:11 <MadHag> ah so thats where tripwire is stored

14:14 <PovAdct_w> I'm suspecting you accidentally ran the client from a different directory, and it's still running from there

14:14 <PovAdct_w> with its own password etc

14:14 <PovAdct_w> where else, apart from /var/lib/boinc-client, did you find a gui_rpc_auth.cfg?

14:14 <hawmps>

14:14 <Romulus> <> (at

14:14 <hawmps> Hackers infiltrate Large Hadron Collider systems and mock IT security

14:17 <MadHag> root

14:17 <MadHag> let me uninstall

14:20 <PovAdct_w> search for 'boinc' in your process list...

14:21 <MadHag> ok, doing a fresh install from ./

14:22 <MadHag> deleted directories after removing boinc too

14:22 <MadHag> so it all fresh

14:22 <PovAdct_w> type 'pidof boinc'; if it prints a number, it's not so fresh, since BOINC is still running :)

14:22 <MadHag> hangon I will install

14:23 <PovAdct_w> check if it's running *first*

14:23 <MadHag> typed that and it just went to the prompt without an error

14:24 <PovAdct_w> good

14:24 <MadHag> ok, nw a new install

14:24 <MadHag> *now

14:24 <MadHag> apt-get from ./

14:26 <MadHag>

14:26 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

14:26 <PovAdct_w> "boinc_cmd --get_state"

14:28 <MadHag>

14:28 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

14:28 <PovAdct_w> then it works :)

14:28 <PovAdct_w> try that create_account thing again

14:29 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --create_account david@******.net ******** MadHag

14:29 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

14:29 <MadHag> like that or without the rosetta

14:29 <PovAdct_w> like that

14:29 <MadHag> ok

14:30 <MadHag> hmmm

14:30 <MadHag> retval: 0

14:30 <PovAdct_w> then repeatedly use -create_account_poll until it gives your account key, and run boinc_cmd -project_attach accountkey

14:30 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

14:31 <PovAdct_w> er

14:31 <PovAdct_w> then repeatedly use --create_account_poll until it gives your account key, and run boinc_cmd --project_attach accountkey

14:31 <Romulus> Title: Rosetta@home (at

14:31 <PovAdct_w> there

14:32 <MadHag> got it first time

14:33 <MadHag> :) came back to a prompt without an error I think its done

14:33 <PovAdct_w> do get_state

14:34 <MadHag>

14:34 <MadHag> :)

14:34 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

14:35 <MadHag> not quite there ?

14:35 <PovAdct_w> it was still connecting to the project

14:35 <PovAdct_w> try again?

14:35 <PovAdct_w> (get_state)

14:36 <MadHag> with brackets?

14:36 <PovAdct_w> no :P

14:36 <MadHag> lol

14:36 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --get_state

14:37 <MadHag> actually, it seems to be hung

14:37 <docteh> where do i tell boinc to not run during certain hours of the day?

14:38 <Tank_Master> the project's website

14:38 <Tank_Master> that will set ti for all your comps

14:38 <Tank_Master> or if you want just one

14:38 <docteh> naw all 2 of them is okay

14:39 <Tank_Master> then just log into your account on the project

14:39 <PovAdct_w> docteh:

14:39 <PovAdct_w> "Do work only between the hours of"

14:39 <Romulus> <> (at

14:39 <PovAdct_w> or in whatever project

14:39 <Tank_Master> then look for "global prefernces"

14:39 <MadHag> ok, I have a load of info

14:39 <Tank_Master> then get a faster CPU

14:39 <Tank_Master> ;)

14:40 <MadHag> anything sensistive in that lot

14:40 <Tank_Master> ?

14:40 <PovAdct_w> MadHag: I searched in rosetta for users ordered by account creation date

14:41 <PovAdct_w> <- is that your computer?

14:41 <Romulus> <> (at

14:41 <MadHag> yes thats me old beauty

14:41 <PovAdct_w> it already got two tasks

14:41 <docteh> is that local time or gmt for that pov?

14:41 <PovAdct_w> *blink*

14:42 <MadHag> is that good

14:42 <PovAdct_w> docteh: no idea, probably local

14:42 <PovAdct_w> MadHag: yep, now your computer is probably processing them :)

14:42 <PovAdct_w> (or maybe still downloading the input files)

14:43 <MadHag> will make a coffee, brb

14:43 <MadHag> thanks a lot btw

14:47 <MadHag> back

14:48 <MadHag> so I can connect my home pc to the same project and link them up?

14:49 <PovAdct_w> yes, just tell it you're an existing user, give it same email and password

14:51 <MadHag> ok will install now

14:51 <PovAdct_w> what OS on your home machine?

14:52 <MadHag> Vista and Ubuntu but I will install on Vista because I webdev a bit and I need the tools

14:53 <MadHag> gotta reboot, brb

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14:58 <MadHag> darn thing has installed in French

14:58 <Tank_Master> haha

14:58 <MadHag> bloody Windows

14:59 <CoderForLife> Bonjour MadHag - BOINC ici  =)

14:59 <MadHag> ça va mes ami

14:59 <CoderForLife> il est tres frakked

14:59 <MadHag> :)

15:00 <MadHag> vous ecrire bien français

15:00 <MadHag> I am actually Welsh

15:00 <CoderForLife> merci - beaucoup ans

15:01 <CoderForLife> I'm midwestern American

15:01 <MadHag> can I change the language, its not a problem but I prefer anglais :)

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15:01 <CoderForLife> bien sur

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15:01 <MadHag> mais ou?

15:02 <CoderForLife> Cincinnati, Ohio, USA

15:02 <MadHag> non, ou changé de langue :)

15:02 <CoderForLife> oh - je ne sais pas

15:03 <MadHag> :)

15:04 <MadHag> so I need to merge the computers?

15:05 <MadHag> ok, its in English now phew

15:05 <CoderForLife> home sweet home

15:06 <CoderForLife> the lingua franca of computing =)

15:06 <saenger> bad english is the language of science

15:07 <MadHag> beibng Welsh I am not overly fond of the English but I admit the language is rather cool

15:07 <MadHag> *being

15:07 <saenger> i just wanted to ask what that welsh word meant ;)

15:08 <MadHag>

15:08 <Romulus> <> (at

15:09 <MadHag> so how many credits before you win a prize ?

15:09 <MadHag> :)

15:09 <CoderForLife> credits *are* the prize

15:10 <CoderForLife> take joy in the journey

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15:11 <saenger> a few thousand credits and a few euro will buy you a decent coffe in a decent café

15:13 <MadHag> does boinc use much bandwidth?

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15:14 <CoderForLife> very little

15:15 <MadHag> good

15:16 <MadHag> how come I cannot see my server in boinc manger on my desktop?

15:16 <CoderForLife> good news hawmps  maybe their won't be such bias and (purposeful) bad editing

15:16 <Romulus> <> (at

15:18 <saenger> the use of bendwidth depends on the projects

15:18 <saenger> some send out quite huge lumps of data, some only very tiny ones

15:18 <CoderForLife> but not very frequently, wouldn't you say?

15:20 <saenger> the more advanced in their way to production the less they usually use

15:20 <saenger> some betas have in the beginning quite huge WUs

15:21 <saenger> and einstein is sending a lot of data at the end of each run

15:21 <saenger> but it announces that first, so you should not be suprised ;)

15:23 <MadHag> looks like boinc is using 99% of my cpu?

15:23 <MadHag> 99.9 actually

15:23 <saenger> should be 100% ;)

15:24 <saenger> that's the purpose of it

15:24 <saenger> use the otherwise unused cycles on the cpu

15:24 <MadHag> top is using the other 0.1 in my shell :)

15:24 <saenger> here's a link to bandwidth use and other info:

15:24 <Romulus> <> (at

15:28 <Tank_Master> what about BOINC alpha?

15:29 <saenger> they only do uppercase themself

15:29 <saenger> afaik

15:29 <Tank_Master> it uses a tone of bandwith though

15:29 <Tank_Master> 4mb down, 4mb up per WU

15:29 <Tank_Master> a WU lasts 1-2min

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15:40 <MadHag> so when the server is ever rebooted whats the command to start boinc

15:41 <saenger> as a command line version?

15:41 <MadHag> sure

15:41 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --something

15:42 <MadHag> boinc_cmd --start I guess

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> no

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> run_client

15:42 <MadHag> and to stop

15:42 <saenger>

15:42 <Romulus> Title: Boinccmd tool - BOINC (at

15:42 <yoyo[RKN]> boinc_cmd is for controling a running boinc instance

15:43 <MadHag> so its boinc run_client

15:43 <saenger> no, just "run_client"

15:43 <saenger> in the right directory

15:44 <MadHag> I see

15:44 <MadHag> will take a look now

15:44 <saenger> if you want to have the gui, use run_manager

15:44 <saenger> but that's not for the server methinks

15:46 <MadHag> funny, in the boinc-client dir I dont actually see a file to run

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15:49 <saenger> you're talking about this puter:

15:49 <Romulus> <> (at

15:49 <saenger> it should have a file called run_client in the boinc dir

15:49 <saenger> and another one called run_manager

15:50 <saenger> dunno about the vista one, i don't have windoze

15:51 <MadHag> in var/lib/boinc-client those files are not there

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15:53 <MadHag>

15:53 <Romulus> Title: pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at

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15:54 <xcamel_> back again

15:55 <Tank_Master> wb

15:56 <yoyo[RKN]> is it Debian Linux, MadHag?

15:57 <MadHag> yes

15:58 <yoyo[RKN]> and you installed the boinc debian package?

15:58 <MadHag> via apt-get

15:58 <yoyo[RKN]> this is a kind different as usual for boinc

15:58 <MadHag> I will work it out

15:58 <yoyo[RKN]> I do not know much about it

15:59 <MadHag> I think I can run a command from root

15:59 <yoyo[RKN]> can you grep in /etc/init.d/* for boinc

16:01 <Tank_Master> hiya yoyo

16:01 <MadHag> its thinking about it

16:01 <yoyo[RKN]> grep boinc /etc/init.d/*

16:02 <xcamel_> ip kill >>

16:02 <Tank_Master> xcamel_ is on a killing spree again

16:02 <xcamel_> U-bettcha.

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16:02 <MadHag> nothing, it just hung

16:03 <PovAddict> back

16:04 <PovAddict> there is no run_client in the Debian package

16:04 <PovAddict> you use /etc/init.d/boinc

16:04 <PovAddict> which is *already* run when the system boots, you don't have to do anything else

16:04 <PovAddict> starts on boot, stops somewhat-cleanly on shutdown

16:04 <MadHag> no such file etc

16:05 <MadHag> so how do I stop boinc when needed

16:06 <Tank_Master> turn off the comp

16:06 <PovAddict> ¬¬

16:06 <MadHag> :)

16:06 <PovAddict> /etc/init.d/boinc or boinc-client, not sure

16:06 <MadHag> I will work it out

16:06 <MadHag> rm boinc

16:06 <PovAddict> no! :P

16:08 <MadHag> my windows pc has more jobs that my server

16:08 <PovAddict> same project?

16:08 <MadHag>

16:08 <Romulus> <> (at

16:09 <MadHag> so who else is with rosetta here, put ya hands up!

16:10 <PovAddict> I'm one of those weirdos with an account in almost every project (40+ of them); but I'm not doing rosetta right now

16:10 <MadHag> I cant do seti , I dont believe in aliens :)

16:10 <PovAddict> currently SIMAP, and LHC when they have work

16:10 <MadHag> ::)

16:11 <MadHag> enjoyed the film though

16:11 <MadHag> what happens when the jobs are done, starts a new one?

16:12 <PovAddict> yep

16:12 <PovAddict> ideally, it should have queued up more work *before* the ones you have are finished

16:12 <MadHag> its nice to see some load on my server, its had it too easy

16:13 <PovAddict> lol

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16:32 <MadHag> nice real time screensaver :)

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16:39 <MadHag> whats that fish business?

16:40 <MadHag> I have a seen a few people say it

16:40 <PovAddict> &google "So long, and thanks for the fish"

16:40 <Romulus> PovAddict: Search took 0.26 seconds: So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish - Wikipedia, the free ...: <,_and_Thanks_for_All_the_Fish>; YouTube - So long and thanks for all the fish: <>; YouTube - So Long and Thanks for all the Fish: <>; Lyrics, So Long & Thanks for All the Fish Lyrics (3 more messages)

16:43 <MadHag> ah, thanks

16:43 <MadHag> ignorance is bliss :)

16:43 <MadHag> didnt miss much then

16:44 <MadHag> I just joined the Wales team and asked to be founder, great way to introduce myself heh

16:45 <PovAddict> or not

16:45 <MadHag> its a bit like dowloading a steam game, you just have to wait

16:45 <Didactylos> I've always considered that daft.

16:46 <MadHag> the founder thing

16:46 <Didactylos> How can anyone be founder if they didn't actually start the team?

16:46 <Soul_keeper> looks like they are going to start pumping carbon into the ground

16:46 <Soul_keeper>

16:46 <Romulus> <> (at

16:46 <MadHag> no one has been active in the last 30 days

16:46 <efc> moo

16:47 <MadHag> silly

16:47 <MadHag> 39 on channel is not that many

16:48 <MadHag> some of the names lol

16:48 <MadHag> yo, fishsponge :)

16:48 <PovAddict> Didactylos: what a huge coincidence

16:48 <Didactylos> What?

16:48 <PovAddict> just as you say it's daft, a related commit comes in :)

16:48 <PovAddict> sucks,

16:48 <wdsmia> asks PovAddict to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:48 <PovAddict> er, clipboard fail

16:48 <PovAddict>

16:48 <Romulus> Title: Changeset 15992 - BOINC - Trac (at

16:48 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

16:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 74.4°F / 23.6°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance of (1 more message)

16:49 <CoderForLife> &more

16:49 <Romulus> CoderForLife: thunderstorms. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms. Muggy and unseasonably warm. Lows around 70. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

16:49 <CoderForLife> hmm

16:49 <MadHag> whats the code for mid pyrenees?

16:50 <PovAddict> ?

16:50 <MadHag> weather

16:50 <MadHag> !help

16:50 <PovAddict> ampersand

16:51 <CoderForLife> &weather Toulouse

16:51 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 57°F / 14°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1019hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 14mph / 22km/h | Updated: 10:00 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:62 ° F. / 17 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:50 ° F. / 10 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:64 ° F. / 18 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 ° (1 more message)

16:51 <Didactylos> What the heck?

16:51 <Romulus> Rumor has it What the heck is exit code 193, Didactylos

16:51 <MadHag> 150 km away :)

16:51 <Didactylos> "which in theory shouldn't happen, but apparently can"

16:51 <MadHag> &weather lourdes

16:52 <Romulus> MadHag: Temperature: 95°F / 35°C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Partly Cloudy | Wind Direction: Variable | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 3:00 PM COT; Chance of Rain. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low:75 ° F. / 24 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:77 ° F. / 25 ° C.; Chance of Rain. High:89 ° F. / 32 ° C.; Chance of a (1 more message)

16:52 <MadHag> temp seems a bit high

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16:52 <CoderForLife> &weather lourdes, france

16:52 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 53.3°F / 11.8°C | Humidity: 85% | Pressure: 30.14in / 1020.5hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h | Updated: 10:50 PM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:60 ° F. / 16 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Rain. High:59 ° F. / 15 ° C.; Chance of Rain. Low:48 ° F. / 9 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:66 ° F. / 19 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:48 ° (1 more message)

16:52 <MadHag> thats more like it lol

16:53 <MadHag> its about 5km away

16:53 <CoderForLife> &weather MadHag

16:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

16:53 <MadHag> lol

16:53 <CoderForLife> lol

16:53 <CoderForLife> &weather Hell

16:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 71.9°F / 22.2°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.91in / 1012.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Numerous showers with an isolated thunderstorm through 8 PM...then a chance of showers with an isolated thunderstorm through 2 am...then showers with an isolated thunderstorm. Otherwise cloudy. Lows 63 to 67. Southwest winds (2 more messages)

16:53 <MadHag> tomorrow I will sort the settings for my computers I think

16:55 <MadHag> thanks for all the fish, I mean help :)

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16:56 <Tank_Master> np

16:56 <Tank_Master> luser

16:56 * PovAddict slaps Tank_Master

16:57 * Tank_Master sends hordes of lemmings over PovAddict

16:57 <CoderForLife> what's that sbout Tank_Master

16:57 <Tank_Master> itchy finger

16:57 <CoderForLife> about*

16:57 <Soul_keeper> &weather 91977

16:57 <Romulus> Soul_keeper: Temperature: 70.7°F / 21.5°C | Humidity: 75% | Pressure: 29.35in / 993.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear in the evening...becoming partly cloudy. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows 55 to 64. Light winds.; Saturday - Partly cloudy in the morning...becoming mostly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 76 to 81 in the (1 more message)

16:57 <Tank_Master> &weather 97123

16:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 88.5°F / 31.4°C | Humidity: 29% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs around 80. Northwest wind 10 mph.; Tonight - Clear...becoming partly cloudy late. Lows 45 to 55. Northwest wind 10 to 15 mph becoming light after midnight.; Saturday - Areas of morning clouds...then sunny. Highs in (1 more message)

16:57 <Tank_Master> &more

16:57 <Romulus> Tank_Master: the lower 80s. Light wind becoming northeast 10 mph in the afternoon.;

16:58 * CoderForLife makes a note to start checking log files after he signs off =)

16:59 <Tank_Master> sucks for those in arkensaw

16:59 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

16:59 <Tank_Master> gas line has been shut down

16:59 <CoderForLife> Ar-Kansas

17:00 <Tank_Master> no, your kansas

17:01 <CoderForLife> Ur-Kansas

17:01 <xcamel_> sucks sucks  sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks

17:01 <wdsmia> asks xcamel_ to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

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17:01 * Tank_Master asks wdsmia to mind his own buisness

17:02 <CoderForLife> trying a DoS on the family filter?

17:02 <xcamel> sucks sucks  sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks sucks

17:02 <wdsmia> asks xcamel to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

17:03 <CoderForLife> heh

17:03 <xcamel> the prude script..

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17:04 <Tank_Master> the toothless script

17:04 <CoderForLife> bbiaab

17:04 <Tank_Master> hf

17:04 <CoderForLife> always

17:04 <Tank_Master> dont get lost

17:05 <docteh> windows sucks

17:05 <wdsmia> asks docteh to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

17:05 <docteh> wth?

17:05 <Tank_Master> what?

17:06 <Tank_Master> the bot knows that windows is great

17:06 <xcamel> winduhs suks

17:07 <Tank_Master> no, just lusers like you

17:07 <Tank_Master> :)

17:07 * xcamel carries the OP stick...

17:08 <Tank_Master> all lunix users are lusers

17:08 <Tank_Master> luser is just short for lunix user

17:09 <xcamel> L-user as in L.A.R.T

17:09 <docteh> list users, irc command :p

17:09 <Tank_Master> that to

17:10 <xcamel> with a clue-by-four

17:10 <Tank_Master> ?

17:11 <xcamel> lol - look it up...

17:12 <Tank_Master> yeah, but what you said was incompleat

17:12 <docteh> sucksbot

17:12 <wdsmia> asks docteh to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

17:12 <Tank_Master> 02:09:39 <xcamel> with a clue-by-four

17:13 <docteh> hmm if this was efnet I'd get it to flood off

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17:35 <wdsmia> re-hi

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17:41 <xcamel> 'lo Doug

17:41 <wdsmia> *lo Jay

17:44 <wdsmia> looks like the sucks filter has been busy

17:46 <xcamel> :-)

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17:46 * wdsmia thinks he will change it just a bit

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17:52 <PovAddict> sucks

17:52 <wdsmia> tells PovAddict to suck Obama's.... and to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.

17:52 <PovAddict> o.0

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18:02 <Ageless93[Away]> relaxing

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18:03 <xcamel> 'lo Jord

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18:05 <PovAddict> DCC SEND startkeylogger

18:06 <PovAddict> nobody died, good...

18:06 <Romulus> Title: » startkeylogger (at

18:06 <PovAddict> stupid "security" software

18:06 <xcamel> your point was?

18:07 <Ageless93> got some Dire Straits playing in teh background, nothing to do, no one to pull info from. nice.

18:07 <Ageless93> does Nick ever have a point? ;)

18:08 <Ageless93> on Friday at least...

18:08 <xcamel> no, but a post like that would get you banned in most irc channels...

18:08 <Ageless93> he may log my Start key all he wants.

18:09 <docteh> lol

18:10 <Ageless93> now why do I have two tea cups sitting here and one in the other room? if he could log that for me...

18:11 <xcamel> tea happens..

18:13 <Ageless93> any more people we know evacuated for Ike? I know Jeff (JRenkar/what's his new nick?) had to leave.

18:14 <xcamel> nearly a million have gone north..

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18:15 <xcamel> according to the news anyway..

18:15 <Ageless93> yeah and those in Houston are supposed to stay in.

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18:16 <Ageless93> I saw Anderson Cooper the other day. First he went on about how you would certainly die if you stayed around there.

18:16 <Ageless93> then later he was talking about how they would film everything and all live from teh waterfront.

18:16 <Ageless93> so they will certainly die. ;)

18:30 <xcamel> catastrophism!

18:32 <Ageless93> Do not venture outside in the eye. The strongest winds and highest

18:32 <Ageless93> surge will likely occur near or just after the eye makes landfall.

18:33 <Ageless93> sound advice

18:33 <Ageless93> unless your house just washed away

18:34 <PovAddict> Ageless93: xcamel posted this earlier

18:34 <Romulus> <> (at

18:36 <Ageless93> I watched that lunatic's video earlier this week. some people should be kept on medicines.

18:37 <Tank_Master> some shouldnt be kept at all

18:37 <Ageless93> lol, I don't think his mum&dad foresaw this lunacy at his conception

18:38 <Ageless93> perhaps he doesn't have a mum&dad but was brought to Earth by aliens

18:40 <xcamel> who?

18:41 <Ageless93> so hum, why is this second network at the LHC linked to from the internet? You'd think that to keep hackers out, they'd put a local network in place.

18:42 <Ageless93> jay, go watch

18:42 <Romulus> <> (at

18:45 <PovAddict> " at LHC they were going to collide volley-ball sized protons with devastating results... "

18:45 <xcamel> OMG!!

18:45 <PovAddict> erm I should have pasted the whole quote, in context

18:45 <PovAddict> "Today I realized how many idiots are in the world... over here (Romania) half of those I\'ve asked thought that at LHC they were going to collide volley-ball sized protons with devastating results... It\'s sad that after going through a highschool and college people would believe that."

18:48 <xcamel> nutz-a-plenty

18:49 <Tank_Master> warning: conatins nutz! not safe for eating, breathing, seeing, or touching

18:50 <Tank_Master> should such things occure, save others by killing your self emeditly

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19:02 <xcamel> lol

19:03 <xcamel> money quote of the day RE: "Troopergate"

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19:03 <xcamel> "Did someone really think the Obamanation sent 30 lawyers to Alaska just to party with the IceRoad Truckers?"

19:03 <xcamel> wb..

19:03 <CoderForLife> hmm - wonder what happened to me

19:04 <CoderForLife> thx for the wb

19:04 <CoderForLife> din din done, and a nap on the couch

19:05 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

19:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 75.0°F / 23.9°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 29.96in / 1014.4hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. South winds around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance (1 more message)

19:05 <CoderForLife> &more

19:05 <Romulus> CoderForLife: of thunderstorms. Humid with highs in the upper 80s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.; Saturday Night - Mostly cloudy with a chance of showers and a slight chance of thunderstorms. Muggy and unseasonably warm. Lows around 70. Southwest winds 10 to 15 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 30 percent.;

19:06 <CoderForLife> muggy...

19:06 <CoderForLife> stuck my head outside and got mugged

19:06 <Ageless93> got rid of my Send Link... options in FF. Got no email client installed so each time I mistakenly click that option, up pops an installer for outlook Express.

19:07 <Ageless93> quite irritating.

19:07 <CoderForLife> ack FTP attach underway

19:07 <PovAddict> if you use gmail, Google Toolbar can make that "send link" option open GMail

19:07 <CoderForLife> plink

19:08 <PovAddict> I was reading about LHC on wikipedia... arrived to Proton, and from there went through all kinds of strange physics

19:08 <CoderForLife> double ack  also plink

19:08 <PovAddict> I don't understand most of it, but interesting stuff

19:09 <Ageless93> I never want to send a link anyway.

19:09 <Ageless93> got no friends.

19:09 <Ageless93> ;)

19:10 <CoderForLife> tcpdump reports all quiet now

19:11 <xcamel> from the bottom quark

19:12 <infinisoft> No web rpcs for WCG? :(

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19:22 <Ageless93> Suicide car bomb kills 30 in Iraq .. I always wonder where people get these car bombs that no longer want to live.

19:23 <xcamel> weird eh?

19:24 <Ageless93> special CNNlish

19:24 <Tank_Master> lol

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19:25 <Tank_Master> are you sure its not a bomb that killed 30 cars?

19:26 <Ageless93> lol

19:27 <Ageless93> BBC does it better:  'Many killed' in Iraq car bombing

19:28 <xcamel> Some guy named "Many" ??

19:29 <Ageless93> No, then it would be "Many" killed in car bombing.

19:29 <Ageless93> ok, I'm going to check if the Daily Show GE is on, probably not due to Ike.

19:30 <CoderForLife> I also have paid attention to the opinions of "Many Dentists" and what he recommends.

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19:37 <CoderForLife> just when you think it's safe

19:37 <Rookie_69> &wx yaw

19:37 <Romulus> Rookie_69: Temperature: 56.5°F / 13.6°C | Humidity: 49% | Pressure: 30.06in / 1017.8hPa | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 4.6mph / 7.4km/h | Updated: 8:37 PM ADT; Tonight - Cloudy. 40 percent chance of showers overnight. Wind southwest 20 km/h (12 mph). Low 12C(54F).; Saturday - Cloudy with 60 percent chance of showers or drizzle. High 16C(61F). Saturday night cloudy with 60 (1 more message)

19:37 <Rookie_69> &more

19:37 <Romulus> Rookie_69: percent chance of showers or drizzle. Fog patches developing near midnight. Low 13C(55F).; Sunday - Cloudy. High 21C(70F).;

19:38 <Rookie_69> Perfect... Showers and fog for a 100 mile race.

19:38 <CoderForLife> preserves the mystery, don't you think?

19:39 <Rookie_69> Don't need to see where we're sailing... just follow the other boats.

19:39 <Tank_Master> heh

19:39 <CoderForLife> if that's what the lead boat thinks...

19:40 <CoderForLife> you'll all wear a circle in the ocean

19:40 <Tank_Master> :P

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19:41 <Rookie_69> Create a vortex too.

19:41 <CoderForLife> there's trouble

19:43 <xcamel> 'lo Glenn

19:43 <Rookie_69> Hi, Jay.

19:45 <Rookie_69> The Black Hole of Chebucto.

19:47 <Ageless93> just use sonar/radar and an engine.

19:48 <CoderForLife> xcamel: very good

19:48 <Romulus> <> (at

19:50 <Rookie_69> Did I mention we're sailing? They frown upon using engines for propulsion during a sailboat race.

19:50 <Ageless93> who's to see it when you have dense fog?

19:50 <CoderForLife> dang - they take away every advantage

19:51 <Ageless93> use a small one, like a pentax 10 hp ;)

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19:54 <xcamel> Hmmm.. Major LA Metrolink derail -  flames too.

19:54 <xcamel> looking for video link

19:55 <wdsmia> rush hour derail not good

19:56 <xcamel> KTLA: Trains Collide in Chatsworth, Dozens Hurt

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19:59 <Ageless93>

19:59 <Romulus> <> (at

20:00 <xcamel> nasty..

20:03 <xcamel> Even the lefty's at TNR think OB1 has just hit his howard dean moment...

20:06 <xcamel>

20:06 <Romulus> <> (at

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20:17 <xcamel>

20:17 <Romulus> <> (at

20:17 <xcamel> houston live stream...

20:18 <wdsmia> used to live there

20:19 <xcamel> not pretty..

20:20 <wdsmia> there going to lose a bunch of churchs in galveston (dry county)

20:21 <xcamel> looks like it..

20:25 <xcamel> Closest I got was San Antonio

20:25 <Ageless93> I'm off to watch Star trek TNG before going to bed. later all.

20:26 <xcamel> nn..

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20:32 <Rookie_69> The speed of light is not a constant... It is dependent on temperature. It gets dark earlier in the winter, doesn't it?

20:39 <xcamel>

20:39 <Romulus> <> (at

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20:41 <Rookie_69> .ooM

20:41 <efc> Moo

20:41 <efc> Ran my 3.8 miles

20:41 <Rookie_69> Being chased?

20:41 <MTughan> I hate websites that will refuse to work without JS...

20:42 <MTughan> Oh, and now I gotta wait for a f***ing commercial to load...

20:42 <efc> Chasing down Vic, err, nm

20:46 <xcamel> mplayer ran it..

20:46 <MTughan> QuickTime is here...

20:51 <MTughan> Well, f*** it. Getting the stream URL from FF and putting in MPlayer does nothing either.

20:52 <wdsmia> sux 2BU

20:52 <MTughan> Doesn't it...

20:54 <CoderForLife> lights out for me - gn

20:55 <MTughan> Night.

20:55 <Rookie_69> NN.

20:56 <xcamel> laterz..

21:03 <xcamel> so starts the national gas gougefest..

21:08 <Rookie_69> Long weekend?

21:08 <xcamel> hurricane ike

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21:09 <Rookie_69> Oh yeah... 15% of something or other.

21:10 <xcamel> prices in the mid south went from $3.50 to near $5

21:10 <MTughan> I heard that up here (Ottawa area now, not Toronto) that prices jumped $0.20.

21:11 <Rookie_69> It should all work itself out... all those cars that are underwater won't be using any more gas.

21:11 <MTughan> From about $1.25/L to about $1.45/L.

21:11 <MTughan> lol

21:12 <Rookie_69> $1.31,2 here today.

21:12 <Rookie_69> Tomorrow may be another tale.

21:13 <Rookie_69> Lowest in a while.

21:13 <xcamel> refinery under water (america's largest) won't be making any...

21:14 <Rookie_69> That's right around $5 a gallon.

21:14 <MTughan> Rookie_69: Where?

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21:15 <Rookie_69> Nouvelle Ecosse.

21:15 <MTughan> Little ways away from here...

21:15 <Rookie_69> A good day's drive.

21:15 <MTughan> At least.

21:16 <MTughan> It was 15 hours from Toronto to just inside New Brunswick when we drove out. That does count 2 hours in Montréal traffic... xD

21:17 <MTughan> We took a much more roundabout route back, maybe 30 minutes.

21:17 <Rookie_69> Montreal at rush hour... isn't.

21:18 <MTughan> Well, that was the odd thing. We entered at probably about 11:30am.

21:18 <MTughan> I think it was a long weekend though.

21:19 <Rookie_69> !0 pm and Montreal takes about 20 minutes or so it seems... Don't slow down below 80 mph.

21:19 <MTughan> Oh yeah, Friday coming up to a long weekend.

21:19 <MTughan> lol

21:19 <MTughan> Dunno about us, but they do that, weaving in and out and every which way.

21:19 <Rookie_69> Ottawa is the same at 5 on a friday... Traffic doesn't move.

21:20 <MTughan> Also because the streets are a lot narrower.

21:20 <MTughan> I don't think it's as much from volume like Montréal and Toronto are.

21:21 <Rookie_69> I've been parked on the 417 before.

21:21 <MTughan> Hmm...

21:21 <MTughan> Because it's the only 400-series going through there? 416's a bit out of the downtown.

21:21 <MTughan> Unless there just is more people going in and out than I might think otherwise.

21:22 <Rookie_69> Idle out past Kanata and it seems to pick up a bit though.

21:22 <MTughan> Not that familiar with Ottawa yet... Kanata is west, east, or south?

21:23 <Rookie_69> North-west-ish.

21:23 <MTughan> Okay, so up the river.

21:24 <xcamel> laterz..

21:24 <MTughan> Seeya Jay.

21:24 <Rookie_69> No, wait... West-north-westish... yeah... up-river.

21:25 <Rookie_69> west south west-ish?

21:25 <MTughan> The only other "city" I know the location of is Nepean.

21:25 <MTughan> How 'bout I pull out a map..

21:26 <Rookie_69> Google Maps out here.

21:27 <Rookie_69> I should get off my arse some day and see if my sister still lives in Kanata...

21:27 <MTughan> Yeah, that'll work. All I have are a transit map, a bike path map, and a tourist map of downtown.

21:28 <MTughan> Yeah, WSW.

21:28 <MTughan> Doing true north. Assuming 417 is east-west, it's due west.

21:29 <Rookie_69> Then check on my brother in Brampton or wherever...

21:29 <MTughan> Yep, there it is... Going through Montréal, we made the mistake of staying on the 40, the Transcanada. Goes right through the downtown. Highway 20 sort of skirts it.

21:30 <Rookie_69> Then up to Bracebridge to check up on the parents...

21:30 <Rookie_69> There's my brother in Wawa...

21:30 <MTughan> All Ontario folk 'cept for you?

21:31 <Rookie_69> I never seemed to move back west.

21:32 <MTughan> Well, you could double them now and move to the prairies or BC. :P

21:32 <Rookie_69> Go west, young man... to Eastern Canada.

21:32 <MTughan> Only in Europe.

21:33 <Rookie_69> I was born on the Prairies, and lived in BC for a year.

21:33 <Rookie_69> Stuck my toes into a fogbank in Vancouver.

21:34 <Rookie_69> Danced with the waves at Cape Spear, Newfie too.

21:35 <MTughan> Different environments?

21:35 <MTughan> Heh... I know how I could go west to meet you!

21:35 <MTughan> Loop around the North Pole! xD

21:36 <MTughan> That's technically going west all the way around the world...

21:36 <PovAddict> you're on the opposite ends? :)

21:36 <MTughan> I'm west of him.

21:36 <PovAddict> 180° west? :)

21:36 <Rookie_69> Stop in at Halifax for a Keith's some day.

21:37 <MTughan> Only about 10-12 hours west.

21:37 <MTughan> Rookie_69: Nah, I don't drink.

21:37 <PovAddict> hours as in timezones, or as in driving time? :)

21:37 <MTughan> And I was in Halifax on our trip.

21:37 <MTughan> PovAddict: 1 hour timezone, 10-12 hours drive time.

21:37 <Rookie_69> ... or so.

21:37 <MTughan> Suffice to say ~15 degrees?

21:38 <Rookie_69> I count about 12.

21:38 <Rookie_69> Close enough.

21:38 <MTughan> I don't have anything to measure with ATM...

21:39 <Rookie_69> I used Google Earth.

21:39 <MTughan> Yeah, just loading that now.

21:40 <MTughan> I'd say my coordinates are 45d 23' 15.5"N, 75d 41' 51.1"W.

21:41 <Rookie_69> If I'm going to be of any use on a sailboat tomorrow, I'd better think about going to bed soon.

21:41 <MTughan> Night then.

21:41 <Rookie_69> I said soon.

21:42 <Rookie_69> Lol.

21:42 <MTughan> Fair enough... We've never been able to get down before 1AM here anyway.

21:42 <MTughan> There are some days we try to, but it just comes.

21:42 <Rookie_69> Gimme 10 minutes.

21:42 <MTughan> So is it still foggy in Lunenburg?

21:44 <Rookie_69> I guess I'll see... or not... tomorrow. That's our halfway point... or close enough to it.

21:44 <MTughan> Okay. When we had visited, that was right after Halifax. Both Lunenburg and Peggy's Cove were foggy on the days we went, so we didn't see much.

21:45 <MTughan> When Peggy's Cove is foggy, it ain't much besides large rocks, a lighthouse, and a heck of a lot of wind.

21:45 <Rookie_69> Blame the Gulf Stream for the fog.

21:45 <MTughan> True...

21:48 <Rookie_69> Anyway, I think bedtime has struck.

21:48 <Rookie_69> NN.

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21:49 <Rookie_69> Bye, Eddie.

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21:50 <efc> lost power for an hour

22:22 <CoderForLife> you might say you were powerless to help your situation

22:22 <PovAddict> very punny

22:23 <CoderForLife> about as much as not being able to sleep

22:23 * efc wants a house-sized generator

22:23 <efc> Our power is fairly reliable, but around 94 we were out for a week during a winter storm.

22:23 <CoderForLife> it happens

22:24 <efc> ironic to have to run a generator to keep the fridge going when its freezing outside

22:24 <CoderForLife> heh

22:24 <CoderForLife> we took out stuff outside

22:25 <MTughan> What about '03?

22:25 <efc> they do that in parts of siberia.. just leave meat etc outside. Nothing will bother it.

22:25 <CoderForLife> we were out 3 days - hot-wired the furnace on the 3rd day to a generator for heat and one light

22:25 <CoderForLife> power came back that day

22:26 <efc> Having an expensive emergency system is a near-guarantee that you'll never have an emergency.

22:26 <CoderForLife> indeed

22:26 <CoderForLife> I have a 15KW generator (22K peak) for just that purpose

22:27 <efc> Excellent!

22:27 <CoderForLife> house is wired for generator backup

22:28 <efc> I bugged dad for one but no dice :p he just has a ~3 kw one for running tools and stuff. But in a long term outage we could run a few things off it.

22:29 <efc> I noticed the Honda generators are incredibly expensive for the size.. guess they are good or quiet or something

22:29 <CoderForLife> I'm sorry - you used the word "generator" and "quiet" in the same sentence - I don't understand

22:37 <CoderForLife> that's a non sequitur

22:37 <efc> dad's isn't terribly bad. In some sort of sound enclosure it would be tolerable.

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22:43 <CoderForLife> hey BadBarbarian

22:43 <BadBarbarian> hi

22:48 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

22:48 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 53°F / 11.7°C | Humidity: 45% | Pressure: in / hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 3mph / 4.8km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows 37 to 45. Light winds.; Saturday - Partly cloudy. Highs 71 to 79. Light winds.; Saturday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 38 to 46. Light winds.;

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23:43 <CoderForLife> &dict existential

23:43 <Romulus> CoderForLife: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: gcide: Existential \Ex`is*ten"tial\, a. 1. Having existence. [Archaic] --Bp. Barlow. [1913 Webster] 2. of or pertaining to, or having the character of, existentialism. [PJC] 3. (Logic) specifying actual existence, rather than only possibility; as, the existential operator. [PJC] --{Ex`is*ten"tial*ly}, adv. [Archaic] [1913 Webster] Existentially as well (3 more messages)

23:43 <efc> &dict antidistestablishmentarianism

23:43 <Romulus> efc: No definition for "antidistestablishmentarianism" could be found.

23:44 <CoderForLife> &dict antidisestablishmentarianism

23:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: gcide: antidisestablishmentarianism \an`ti*dis`es*tab`lish*men*ta"ri*an*ism\ ([a^]n*t[-e]*d[i^]s`[e^]s*t[a^]b`l[i^]sh*men*t[^a]r"[-e]*[a^]n*[i^]z'm), n. the doctrine or political position that opposes the withdrawal of state recognition of an established church; -- used especially concerning the Anglican Church in England. Opposed to {disestablishmentarianism}. [PJC]

23:45 * efc gets an idea

23:46 <CoderForLife> look out

23:46 <CoderForLife> stand back folks - he's going to use Science

23:46 <efc> Extenze - now with REAL SCIENCE

23:48 <CoderForLife> well - I'm going to try sleeping again

23:48 <CoderForLife> re-gn

23:49 <efc> night CFL

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