00:14 <zombie67> net split?
00:14 <PovAddict> doesn't seem to be
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00:15 <PovAddict> that's just them two with connection problems
00:15 <zombie67> you're up late!
00:15 <zombie67> oh
00:15 <PovAddict> I am up late
00:16 <BadBarbarian> sorry Zman OCing my quad
00:16 <zombie67> do you know when DA will release the client that will allow PS3GRID to run their GPU client as non-CPU?
00:16 <BadBarbarian> no overclocking my q6600
00:17 <PovAddict> I dunno
00:17 <BadBarbarian> lots of reboots involved
00:17 <zombie67> nic BB
00:17 <zombie67> nice
00:17 <PovAddict> there has been *zero* discussion of GPU-related development in mailing lists
00:17 <PovAddict> and then DA whines when somebody contributes a patch without previous discussion ._.
00:17 <zombie67> sounds familiar
00:18 <zombie67> when a project needs something, no support, so they end up having to develop the tools themselves
00:18 <PovAddict> I mean, DA has been actively working on GPU support on the client
00:18 <PovAddict> but no discussion about it
00:18 <zombie67> I bought a top of the line cuda card, and the creds are Sweeeeet
00:19 <PovAddict> same for Charlie Fenton working on the multithreaded RPCs on the manager...
00:20 <PovAddict> I just keep seeing more and more (mostly bad) code being added... I have the feeling that there is *too* much private (off-list) communication going on between DA, Rom, and Charlie
00:22 <zombie67> Hah! Freakin' hilarious!
00:23 <PovAddict> yeah all the comments on that ticket got interesting :)
00:23 <zombie67> is BOINC open source?
00:23 <zombie67> shouldn't all development be...er...open?
00:24 <PovAddict> strictly, open source just means the code is available
00:24 <zombie67> I mean, where are the project goals, milestones, schedules, tasks, owners...along with the progress against each?
00:25 <PovAddict> in the Trac tickets
00:25 <PovAddict> when they remember to
00:25 <PovAddict> and want to
00:25 <zombie67> tickets are not a roadmap or project plan
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00:26 <PovAddict> they are, since tickets can have a milestone and the Roadmap page in Trac tells you how many tickets for each milestone are still open
00:26 <PovAddict> however
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00:26 <PovAddict> lots of stuff (GPU support, multithreaded RPCs) is never discussed, or put into a ticket
00:26 <PovAddict> or in the descriptive text for Milestones
00:26 <PovAddict> so they have a good tool (Trac) they aren't using
00:27 <zombie67> what a load of crap
00:27 <zombie67> project management is completely missing, aparrently.
00:27 <PovAddict> what specific problems would you like to see fixed? :)
00:27 <zombie67> with the current release? Selecting multiple tasks, and acting on them
00:28 <PovAddict> huh, 6.2 doesn't have multiple task selection?
00:28 <zombie67> worse than not having them at all
00:28 <zombie67> sure it does, but it's broken
00:29 <zombie67> also multiple project selection doesn't work right either
00:30 <zombie67> task problems:
00:31 <zombie67> 1) Select 20 tasks, and abort, then have to click okay/cancel 20 times
00:31 <PovAddict> fixed in synecdoche; next?
00:31 <zombie67> 2) The tasks selected actually *change* going through the 20 pop-ups.
00:32 <zombie67> you can be clicking "okay" on tasks you never originally selected
00:32 <zombie67> as aborted tasks get reported, the selected tasks change
00:34 <Didactylos> Charlie fixed that, IIRC.
00:34 <Didactylos> In trunk, anyway.
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00:54 <bigt0242000> hi
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01:27 <efc> moo
01:33 <Soul_keeper> efc, i'm proud of your excellent room attitude !
01:34 <efc> Yay yay yay! Now, what are you talking about
01:39 <efc> anothe night of looking at stuff i won't end up buying
01:41 <Soul_keeper> yeah don't do that
01:41 <Soul_keeper> it's not good for the mental health
01:41 * Soul_keeper is installing a gpl crossplatform game
01:48 <infinisoft> Almost done updating the new prime stats pages. yay.
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02:14 <shirish> hi guys, I'm having a peculiar problem
02:15 <shirish> I want to have the file ca-bundle.crt and the one which my distro has doesn't work.
02:16 <shirish> anybody up?
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02:34 <Romulus> Title: English Russia » Darvaz: The Door to Hell (at englishrussia.com)
02:34 <Tank_Master> no, I aint up
02:35 <Soul_keeper> Wesnoth v1.4.5 that was fun
02:49 <shirish> I want to have the file ca-bundle.crt and the one which my distro has doesn't work.
02:53 <shirish> Tank_Master: Soul_keeper: guys https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/246205
02:53 <Tank_Master> what?
02:54 <shirish> Tank_Master: can you look that bug I gave b4 and tell me what to do
02:54 <shirish> I want the ca-bundle.crt file and the one which I have doesn't work
02:54 <Tank_Master> I know next to nothing about linux
02:54 <Soul_keeper> yeah i don't use that distro ...
02:54 <MTughan> shirish: For what?
02:54 <shirish> Tank_Master: ah ok
02:54 <Tank_Master> I prefer serevr 2008
02:54 <MTughan> Windows b*stard...
02:55 <Tank_Master> what?
02:55 <Soul_keeper> i just keep my old ca-bundle.crt and move it to new installs over the last 2yrs
02:55 <Soul_keeper> slackware here
02:55 <shirish> MTughan: I get this error "Peer certificate cannot be authenticated with known CA certificates."
02:55 <Tank_Master> I install it and it *gasp!* reconises all of my hardware out of the box!
02:55 <Tank_Master> never seen a linux install do that
02:55 <MTughan> If I knew more about the server side of BOINC I might be able to help you...
02:55 <MTughan> Tank_Master: Yeah, it's called HAL.
02:56 <MTughan> Ah, I know why... shirish: That file shouldn't be needed unless you need an SSL connection from the client to the server.
02:56 <shirish> Tank_Master: its a driver issue what you are talking about but things are changing and for the beter
02:57 * Soul_keeper goes to sleep
02:57 <Tank_Master> bout frikin time
02:57 <shirish> MTughan: I'm member of WCG and it needs that
02:57 <Soul_keeper> yeah i don't think i'm needed here :)
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02:57 <Tank_Master> linux has only been around for what? 15 years?
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02:58 <MTughan> Oh, it's the client that needs it...
02:58 <MTughan> Does the file here not help? http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/browser/trunk/boinc/curl/ca-bundle.crt?format=raw
02:58 <shirish> Tank_Master: correct, but it comes from the Unix heritage which is another 10-15 years old.
02:58 <shirish> MTughan: that file is over 2 years old. There should be a newer version
02:59 <MTughan> Does it matter if it works?
02:59 <shirish> MTughan: look at this comment https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/boinc/+bug/246205/comments/3
03:00 <shirish> MTughan: it says many of the keys are expiring in the year 2008.
03:00 <MTughan> So I read... Let me see what my installation has.
03:00 <shirish> MTughan: thanx
03:01 <MTughan> All right. My ca-bundle.crt was last modified on January 15, 2007. I can communicate with WCG fine.
03:02 <shirish> MTughan: can you put up your ca-bundle.crt so I can use it
03:02 <shirish> somewhere on rapidshare or some other server.
03:02 <MTughan> One sec, let me compare the one BOINC has to mine.
03:03 <shirish> MTughan: sure
03:03 <MTughan> Yeah, they are different... Well, maybe mine will work. Should be platform independent (I'm on Mac).
03:04 <shirish> MTughan: it should, at worst it wouldn't
03:04 <MTughan> Yep. Give it a sec to upload...
03:06 <shirish> MTughan: yes, they are different, the md5sum are different
03:06 <MTughan> That's what I used, yeah.
03:06 <shirish> MTughan: now how do I symlink it
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03:06 <MTughan> ln -s <actual path> <link path>
03:07 <MTughan> So can I delete it off the online server then?
03:08 <shirish> MTughan: definitely
03:08 <MTughan> Thanks.
03:09 <MTughan> I'll need to go to bed in a couple minutes... past 3AM here.
03:10 <shirish> MTughan: where is ca-bundle.crt in your system?
03:10 <MTughan> Won't help you, but /Library/Application Support/BOINC Data.
03:13 <shirish> MTughan: found it, its in /var/lib/boinc-client/ but its symlinked file
03:13 <shirish> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2008-07-20 08:23 ca-bundle.crt -> /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
03:13 <MTughan> Uh, I wouldn't touch that...
03:13 <MTughan> Just replace the symlink with the actual file for now.
03:17 <shirish> ok did that, let's say what happens now
03:18 <MTughan> Try and finish this quickly. I'd like to help you, but it is getting late.
03:20 <shirish> MTughan: I did it, I tried running boincmgr but didn't get anywhere
03:20 <shirish> MTughan: even running boinc, I get some very strange results
03:21 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
03:23 <MTughan> "14-Sep-2008 12:48:53 [---] This computer is not attached to any projects"
03:23 <MTughan> Or are you trying to connect to WCG?
03:24 <shirish> I'm trying to connect to WCG, lemme try again, this time with boincmgr
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03:25 <Tank_Master> gn ye all
03:25 <Tank_Master> n gl ;)
03:25 <MTughan> Bye TM.
03:25 <Tank_Master> buy MT
03:25 <Tank_Master> :P
03:25 <MTughan> You want to buy me? How much?!
03:26 <Tank_Master> ill give you your 2c worth
03:26 <MTughan> I'd need more than $0.02... :P
03:26 <MTughan> Night.
03:26 <Tank_Master> tc
03:26 <Romulus> Title: Ubuntu Pastebin (at paste.ubuntu.com)
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03:27 <MTughan> That's not a problem with the certificate. The manager can't load the core client...
03:27 <MTughan> Not sure what error 13 is.
03:27 <MTughan> &boincerr 13
03:27 <Romulus> MTughan: Error: I couldn't find 13 in boincerr.
03:27 <MTughan> Neither does Rommie...
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03:28 <shirish> MTughan: right, that's understood, although why I have no idea.
03:28 <shirish> MTughan: b4 it didn't give that error.
03:29 <MTughan> Try starting boinc as you were before, but with the --redirectio --launched_by_manager flags.
03:29 <MTughan> As in the error message.
03:29 <MTughan> Unless the "Connection refused" is the error... Do you still have that process from before running?
03:30 <shirish> MTughan: what do you mean process from before?
03:30 <MTughan> You had posted what happened when you did "boinc" in your home directory, where I had pointed out that you weren't attached to any projects.
03:32 <shirish> MTughan: right, I killed it Then started the new one all over again using boincmgr
03:32 <MTughan> Is there any other BOINC process running? Try
03:32 <MTughan> Damn Enter... "ps aux | grep boinc"
03:33 <shirish> MTughan: result
03:33 <shirish> shirish 3982 3.5 3.0 51416 19620 pts/4 S+ 13:02 0:01 boincmgr --verbose
03:33 <shirish> shirish 4022 0.0 0.1 3236 788 pts/5 S+ 13:03 0:00 grep boinc
03:33 <shirish> so doesn't seem any other process is there.
03:33 <MTughan> Indeed...
03:34 <shirish> also the flag which it gave --redirectio doesn't work
03:34 <MTughan> "boinc --redirectio" doesn't work?
03:34 <shirish> MTughan: nope :(
03:35 <MTughan> Is there anything in stderrdae.txt?
03:36 <shirish> MTughan: nothing :(
03:36 <MTughan> How about stdoutdae.txt or stderrgui.txt? If there's nothing, something's definitely wrong...
03:37 <shirish> stdoutdae.txt is there, it has stuff but that's from a week ago.
03:37 <MTughan> And stderrgui.txt?
03:37 <shirish> MTughan: nope, nothing of that sort.
03:38 <MTughan> Well... Sorry, without more time (and less fatigue), I can't help you right now. Give me a couple hours and I should be fine. Of course, someone else who could help you will probably drop in by that point... But you get the idea.
03:38 <shirish> MTughan: perhaps I should uninstall it and call the one from the boinc site.
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03:38 <shirish> MTughan: Of course, understand that fully.
03:39 <MTughan> Thanks...
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04:54 <_Danilo_> hi all
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05:44 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140
05:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 74.3°F / 23.5°C | Humidity: 83% | Pressure: 29.71in / 1006.0hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: West | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Partly sunny this morning...then showers developing with a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Windy with highs in the upper 80s. South winds 15 to 20 mph with gusts up to 30 mph...increasing to 25 to 35 mph with gusts up to (2 more messages)
05:44 <CoderForLife> &more
05:44 <Romulus> CoderForLife: 45 mph this afternoon. Chance of rain 100 percent.; Tonight - Cloudy. Showers with a chance of thunderstorms in the evening...then a chance of showers after midnight. Windy with lows in the lower 60s. West winds 25 to 35 mph with gusts up to 45 mph...diminishing to 10 to 15 mph after midnight. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Monday - Mostly cloudy. Highs around 70. Northwest winds 5 to 10 mph.; Wind (1 more message)
05:48 <CoderForLife> &more
05:48 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Advisory for Hamilton County in effect until 9:00 PM EDT on September 14, 2008;
05:49 <CoderForLife> wind advisory
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07:58 <CoderForLife> bbl
08:10 <xcamel> 'lo
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08:41 <Romulus> Title: APOD: 2008 September 14 - The Heart and Soul Nebulas (at antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov)
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09:12 <xcamel> 'lo ElG
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09:31 <xcamel> mighty quiet this morning...
10:06 <CoderForLife> back from store
10:06 <CoderForLife> plink 18.104.22.168 -- multiple web server 400 error codes from same source ip
10:07 <CoderForLife> very nice APOD, xcamel
10:08 <CoderForLife> Illinois is feeling under the weather this morning
10:08 <CoderForLife> and yesterday
10:08 <xcamel> plunked
10:18 <xcamel> humid like a steambath here..
10:18 <CoderForLife> yeah same
10:18 <xcamel> &wx 12074
10:18 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 69.4°F / 20.8°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.76in / 1007.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Mostly cloudy. Showers this morning...then a chance of showers and thunderstorms this afternoon. Highs in the mid 80s. South winds 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 90 percent.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Humid with lows in the lower (1 more message)
10:19 <xcamel> &more
10:19 <Romulus> xcamel: 70s. South winds 15 to 20 mph. Gusts up to 35 mph after midnight.; Monday - Partly sunny. A chance of showers in the morning. Breezy with highs in the upper 70s. Southwest winds around 25 mph... becoming west 15 to 25 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 30 percent.;
10:19 <xcamel> ick.
10:19 <CoderForLife> we have a wind advisory until 9pm
10:19 <CoderForLife> hope my trees stand up
10:19 <xcamel> I bet - that will head here too... really moving now.
10:20 <CoderForLife> yeah, I was amazed at the Ike track timeline
10:21 <xcamel> "New DNC Secret Weapon: Pagans for Obama"
10:21 <xcamel> no link
10:21 <CoderForLife> woot
10:21 <CoderForLife> and that differs - how?
10:22 <xcamel> exactly...
10:22 <CoderForLife> I'm reading about OODA on wikipedia
10:25 <CoderForLife> interesting "getting inside your opponents OODA loop"
10:25 <xcamel> hmmm..
10:26 <CoderForLife> lol pentagram here too
10:30 * xcamel needs to see if I can get the bulldozer running..
10:31 <CoderForLife> got 2 bobcats in the front yard if you need one
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12:25 <nickuwo> mmm... crysis
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14:41 <Tank_Master> mmm... crysis
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15:42 <efc> moo
15:43 <BadBarbarian> Moo Too
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15:52 <Romulus> Title: Track Hurricane Ike | Hurricane Ike Webcams & Chat | myFOXhoustonLIVE.com (at myfoxhoustonlive.com)
15:53 <efc> Does Texas still exist?
15:53 <BadBarbarian> yes kind of
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16:17 <xcamel> re-hi
16:17 <efc> moo X
16:17 <xcamel> 'lo Ed
16:23 <xcamel> ip kill >> 22.214.171.124
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16:32 <ergZay> im trying to use remote control setting in boinc to control another computer on my home network
16:32 <ergZay> both are running mac os x
16:33 <ergZay> i have a password set in the passwords file and also my local ip address which im connecting from in the list of allowed ip address (is that even needed on a LAN?)
16:33 <PovAddict> yes it's needed on a LAN too
16:33 <ergZay> but when i try and connect to the ip of the computer im connecting to it just sits there
16:33 <PovAddict> if remote_hosts.cfg is empty or doesn't exist, only localhost connections are allowed
16:33 <PovAddict> did you restart BOINC after adding/changing those files?
16:34 <ergZay> yes multiple times, i havent restarted the computer but i quit the manager and reopened it
16:34 <PovAddict> if it just sits there instead of giving an error, I'd suspect there is a firewall causing problems
16:34 <ergZay> does the manager on the machine im connecting to have to be off?
16:34 <PovAddict> no, you can have dozens of managers (on the same machine or not) connected to the same client
16:35 <PovAddict> with no problems other than speed :)
16:35 <ergZay> i think it may be the firewall actually
16:35 <ergZay> what port does it connect by default?
16:35 <PovAddict> 31416
16:35 <PovAddict> Pi
16:36 <ergZay> ah nice
16:37 <ergZay> yay it works
16:37 <ergZay> thx
16:37 <ergZay> for some reason that didnt occur to me
16:37 <PovAddict> used to be 1043 (even registered in IANA as such), but some people had problems with some stupid Windows service opening that port number
16:37 <ergZay> i think it was because i had gotten used to this new laptop's new firewall schme which is completely different from mac os x 10.3 firewall setup scheme
16:37 <ergZay> 10.5 uses applicaiton selection while 10.3 uses port selection
16:37 <PovAddict> the client wouldn't even start because the port was in use by another program (the stupid Windows service)
16:37 <ergZay> atleast in the guis
16:38 <ergZay> its generally advised to use above port what is it
16:38 <PovAddict> above 1024
16:39 <ergZay> ah so it was
16:39 <PovAddict> that's why Windows is Doing It Wrong
16:39 <ergZay> yea
16:39 <ergZay> well whats different
16:39 <ergZay> windows is windows
16:39 <ergZay> always will be
16:39 <PovAddict> :)
16:39 <ergZay> its why the smart ppl use linux
16:39 <ergZay> or mac os x
16:39 <docteh> :o
16:39 <PovAddict> BOINC developers got 1043 as an official port assignment from IANA
16:39 <ergZay> which is almost linux
16:39 <ergZay> but with pretty gui
16:39 <docteh> <3 vista
16:39 <PovAddict> eww
16:39 * ergZay kills docteh
16:39 <ergZay> vista = worst windows ever created
16:40 <PovAddict> ergZay: you haven't used Windows ME then
16:40 <ergZay> tied with maybe windows original
16:40 <ergZay> ME is just a better 98 isnt it?
16:40 <efc> Apparently, their only error was not calling it Windows Barcelona or whatever that other name was
16:40 <efc> according to their commercial
16:40 <docteh> ME was worse than 98se
16:40 <ergZay> o rly?
16:40 <ergZay> i never used ME yea
16:41 <ergZay> ive used 3.1 95, 98, a little NT, 2000, and xp
16:41 <PovAddict> all of 95/98/ME was crap anyway :)
16:41 <ergZay> and used vista at a friend's house
16:41 <DerMeister> vista is quite nice, actually
16:41 <PovAddict> NT kernel is WAY better than Win95
16:41 <docteh> with the UAC on or off ergZay?
16:41 <ergZay> UAC?
16:41 <Romulus> Rumor has it UAC is the most hateful thing in Vista - if Vista wasn't so annoyingly diffferent and unstable, it would be reason enough to steer clear, ergZay
16:41 <PovAddict> see, even the bot knows it
16:42 <DerMeister> ^^
16:42 <docteh> noob
16:42 <ergZay> my family had avoided windows as much as possible since i was young
16:42 <PovAddict> ergZay: lucky you
16:42 <ergZay> i grew up on macs, heck my father bought his first mac in 1986 or so 2 years after it came out
16:42 <docteh> whats this have to do with vista sucking?
16:43 <docteh> that just proves that you're biased against windows
16:43 <ergZay> i love everything about macs except for two major gripes, 1. price of computers, 2. apple not updating their open source stuff fast enough
16:43 <PovAddict> I have an heterogeneous network
16:43 <ergZay> windows i dont like much about
16:44 <ergZay> linux i use as well
16:44 <PovAddict> my machine running Linux (Kubuntu), my sister's machine running WinXP, and my dad's PowerBook running OS X Tiger
16:44 <ergZay> but not as a home computer
16:44 <docteh> I just like playing games on windows
16:44 <ergZay> macs play windows games fine now
16:44 <PovAddict> that made for some fun setting up a network printer :)
16:44 <ergZay> use get crossover
16:44 <ergZay> just*
16:44 * PovAddict doesn't play many games
16:45 <ergZay> but i dont want to think bout games right now
16:45 <PovAddict> and when I do, they're the kind of games you could find Flash-based on a website, or that already have an open source clone
16:45 <ergZay> every time ive thought about games over the last few days my head keeps bringing up my reocuring nightmare
16:45 <ergZay> spore
16:45 <docteh> haw
16:45 <ergZay> the game i waited with baited breath for 4 long years
16:45 <PovAddict> not the current GPU-eating Windows-only games
16:45 <ergZay> for them to release the largest piece of crap game that ive ever seen made
16:46 <ergZay> the Alpha of spore they showed in 2005 was a better game than the one they released here in late 2008
16:46 <ergZay> marketing branches....
16:46 * ergZay shoots EA marketing repeatedly
16:47 <ergZay> anyway enough ranting
16:47 <PovAddict> yeah stay on-topic
16:47 <ergZay> btw the topic says Romulus is & but it doesnt seem to be
16:47 <PovAddict> rant about waiting long months for BOINC 6.x for them to release a large piece of crap :)
16:48 <PovAddict> ergZay: he is
16:48 <PovAddict> &ping
16:48 <Romulus> pong
16:48 <docteh> chatrooms that stay 100% on topic aren't interesting
16:48 <PovAddict> docteh: chatrooms that stay 70% off-topic talking about US politics aren't interesting either
16:48 <PovAddict> *cough*
16:49 <ergZay> im debating on switching to useing an online manager and running boinc as a daemon on all my machines
16:49 <ergZay> is the online manager nice?
16:49 <docteh> well we're not in #debian
16:49 <docteh> so i dont see a problem about US politics
16:49 <PovAddict> ergZay: online manager?
16:49 <Romulus> Title: Account managers - BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
16:49 <ergZay> those
16:49 <PovAddict> those just let you attach and detach projects
16:50 <ergZay> no direct control?
16:50 <PovAddict> and take at least an hour to take effect
16:50 <ergZay> ah
16:50 <PovAddict> (when the client contacts the account manager)
16:50 <ergZay> so no one really uses them?
16:50 <PovAddict> lots of people do
16:50 <ergZay> what do you guys use for managing multiple boinc computers?
16:50 <PovAddict> account managers are better when you have dozens of computers you can't easily access
16:51 <ergZay> i was just wondering for using it to control my two computers at home while im on campus
16:51 <PovAddict> that could work yeah
16:52 <ergZay> also trying to find a nice balance for cpu usage point for my mac computers
16:52 <PovAddict> laptops?
16:52 <ergZay> as one of them is a laptop turned desktop that i no longer use as ive got this new MBP
16:52 <ergZay> i dont get why apple cant make cool laptops
16:53 <ergZay> ive heard about maybe its the missapplication of cpu grease
16:53 <ergZay> heat sync grease*
16:53 <ergZay> but really
16:53 <ergZay> this MBP of mine
16:53 <ergZay> is runnning at 80C
16:53 <ergZay> around
16:53 <docteh> C?
16:53 <Romulus> I guess C is for Cookie :), docteh
16:54 <ergZay> celcius
16:54 <ergZay> celsius*
16:54 <docteh> i thought that stuff was rated for 70 celcius tho
16:54 <ergZay> well thats my graphics card
16:54 <ergZay> which is at 78C atm while running boinc
16:54 <ergZay> when i game it hits 82C
16:55 <ergZay> the CPU A temperature diode is at 76C
16:55 <ergZay> and there are three "main heatsink" temperature sensors which im not sure where they are located
16:56 <ergZay> anyway it runs hot
16:56 <ergZay> when im at home i use a piece of cardboard the size of the laptop bottom that i use underneath it to separate my lap from it
16:56 <BadBarbarian> my q6600 is oced to 3 gig and running 60c crunching
16:57 <ergZay> thats a desktop isnt it though?
16:57 <ergZay> dont know what a q6600 is
16:57 <BadBarbarian> yes i have a fan cooler for my lappy
16:57 <BadBarbarian> 2.4 gig intel quad
16:57 <ergZay> xeon?
16:58 <BadBarbarian> of cold plate if you want to call it
16:58 <BadBarbarian> no
16:58 <ergZay> this laptop has intel core 2 duo 2.5
16:58 <BadBarbarian> let me get you a lonk to my lappy cooler
16:58 <BadBarbarian> link
16:58 <ergZay> you overlocked your laptop though?
16:59 <ergZay> hardware or software?
16:59 <ergZay> i haven't seen many laptops getting overclocked
17:01 <BadBarbarian> yes theres an xp software that lets you oc a lappy
17:03 <BadBarbarian> trying to remember the name of the file lol
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17:22 <nickuwo> trying to follow the directions on http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/CompileApp#Linuxx86 but I'm getting a undefined reference to ~__gxx_personality_v0' error when I try to 'make' after creating the symbolic link.... any ideas?
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17:32 <nickuwo> nm
17:33 <nickuwo> dammit
17:33 <nickuwo> ]still doesnt work
17:35 <ergZay> out of curiosity, what is the method used to decide if you get new work units
17:35 <ergZay> as i have a TON of work units on this fast laptop
17:35 <ergZay> for SETI
17:35 <ergZay> but seti isnt giving any to my slow old 1.2 GHz ibook g4 laptop
17:36 <nickuwo> in code, or just in general?
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17:37 <ergZay> either
17:37 <ergZay> was asking anyone
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17:38 <nickuwo> I believe it's a combination of what boinc had determined your system can handle based upon the benchmarks it runs, and your settings
17:42 <DerMeister> ... and some more factors like the duration correction factor...
17:42 <DerMeister> and host efficiency and uptime...
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18:01 <docteh> i used to get work units for a pentium 100 i had running still :)
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18:06 <ergZay> docteh: ah heh
18:06 <ergZay> i have a pentium pro thats only missing a harddrive sitting around somewhere
18:06 <ergZay> it got migrated to my newer old computer
18:10 <ergZay> anyone know the command off the top of their heads to pull up a listing of ip addresses of computers on the local network?
18:10 <ergZay> or is there such a command
18:10 <ergZay> linux command
18:10 <ergZay> *nix rather
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18:30 <xcamel> back again
18:31 <wdsmia> wb
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18:38 <xcamel> you missed the storm eh?
18:39 <xcamel> looks like it's going to rocket right up the St Lawrance
18:44 <xcamel> we have a 'high wind watch" but that's about it..
18:44 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
18:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 55.0°F / 12.8°C | Humidity: 90% | Pressure: 29.98in / 1015.1hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Overcast | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 2.0mph / 3.2km/h ; Late This Afternoon - Cloudy. Scattered showers early in the afternoon...then isolated showers early in the evening. Breezy. Northwest wind 20 to 25 mph. Chance of showers 30 percent.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy in the evening then clearing. (1 more message)
18:44 <wdsmia> &more
18:44 <Romulus> wdsmia: Cooler. Low in the mid 40s. Northwest wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening.; Monday - Sunny. High in the mid 60s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph.;
18:44 <xcamel> 85F and 100% humidity
18:45 <xcamel> &wx 12074
18:45 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 70.8°F / 21.6°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 29.62in / 1002.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. The low in the lower 70s. South winds around 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.; Monday - Partly sunny. The high in the upper 70s. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph...becoming west in the afternoon. Gusts up to 35 mph.; (1 more message)
18:47 <BadBarbarian_> &wx 86046
18:47 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: Temperature: 76°F / 24.4°C | Humidity: 13% | Pressure: 30.30in / 1026.0hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9.7km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows 39 to 47. Light winds.; Monday - Mostly sunny in the morning then becoming partly cloudy. Highs 72 to 80. Light winds becoming south around 15 mph early in the afternoon...then becoming light late in the afternoon.; (1 more message)
18:47 <BadBarbarian_> &more
18:47 <Romulus> BadBarbarian_: Monday Night - Mostly clear. Lows 40 to 48. Light winds.;
18:50 <xcamel> &more
18:50 <Romulus> xcamel: Monday Night - Partly cloudy. Much cooler. Less humid with the low in the lower 50s. Northwest winds 10 to 15 mph.;
18:54 <xcamel> must be FR is getting hammered again
18:56 <xcamel> 503'a
18:56 <xcamel> 503's even
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19:03 <xcamel> amazing how fast that thing is moving...
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19:06 <xcamel> 'lo TM
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20:58 <xcamel> laterz..
21:00 <efc> night X
21:01 <efc> going home
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22:06 <ergZay> why on the boinc website do you guys supply the latest 5.x version as well as the latest 6.x version?
22:06 <ergZay> do some people prefer the 5.x version for some reason?
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23:49 <Soul_keeper> ergZay, some consider 5.x to be completely stable, while 6.x still has many new features that aren't as well tested
23:50 <Soul_keeper> i prefer 6.x
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