IRC logs of #boinc for Sunday, 2008-09-21

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00:23 <Tank_Master> wtf?

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01:55 <Soul_keeper> any of you play wesnoth ?

01:56 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

01:56 <Soul_keeper> yo yoyo[RKN]

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02:41 <efc3> moo

02:44 <Tank_Master> hi

02:57 <Tank_Master> so, the next mobo from asus for the nehalem CPU will support a mear 24GB of RAM....

02:57 <efc3> How many sockets?

02:57 <Tank_Master> 6

02:57 <Tank_Master> DDR3

02:57 <efc3> Wow, don't see a mb with 6 every day

02:57 <Tank_Master> itll be norm for the nehalem

02:58 <Tank_Master> they are trichannel

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02:58 <Tank_Master> instead of dual

02:58 <Tank_Master> so its really 2 3-channels

02:59 <Tank_Master> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2784604434_2663e25bc0_b.jpg

02:59 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4tne83> (at farm4.static.flickr.com)

03:00 <efc3> That and dual quads and we'll be set

03:00 <Tank_Master> try dual octi

03:00 <Tank_Master> next year intel will have a 8core CPU with hyperthreading...

03:00 <Tank_Master> 16 threads per CPU

03:01 <Tank_Master> 32 threads for a dual system!

03:01 <efc3> Oh yeah

03:02 <Tank_Master> things will be sweat next year

03:02 <efc3> Yeah, but they always have

03:02 <Tank_Master> lol

03:02 <Tank_Master> true

03:21 <Soul_keeper> hyperthreading sucks

03:23 <Tank_Master> heh

03:23 <Tank_Master> better than not having it

03:23 <Soul_keeper> kinda

03:24 <Soul_keeper> but i still don't like the idea of it coming back

03:24 <Tank_Master> this isnt the same as the P4 hyerthreading either

03:24 <Tank_Master> why?

03:24 <Soul_keeper> in my experience systems with hyperthreading are very unresponsive

03:24 <Tank_Master> you dont want more performance?

03:24 <Tank_Master> must be a linux thing

03:24 <Tank_Master> cus windows is more responsive

03:24 <Soul_keeper> especially if you increase process priorities or add more threads than available logical cores

03:25 <Soul_keeper> doubt it

03:25 <Soul_keeper> it's an architectural limitation

03:25 <Tank_Master> well, we will see

03:25 <Soul_keeper> if you share something between two cores, then that something becomes the limiting factor

03:25 <Tank_Master> things are differnt this time

03:25 <Soul_keeper> lol

03:25 <efc3> its probably the biggest help when apps are memory or IO bound

03:26 <Tank_Master> the nehalem is not a core CPU

03:26 <Soul_keeper> i'm hoping it'll be a flop like the willamette or prescott

03:26 <Tank_Master> its a new design

03:26 <Tank_Master> why?

03:26 <Soul_keeper> because the over dominance by a single player in the market place is no good for anyone imo

03:27 <Soul_keeper> i'm rooting for the underdog

03:27 <Tank_Master> even when its just because the compition cant come up with anything to compete?

03:27 <Tank_Master> ahh, I see

03:27 <Tank_Master> smae reson you go with linunx?

03:27 <Soul_keeper> i'd rather see 8 smaller cores, than 4 cores that can each execute 2 threads

03:27 <Soul_keeper> Tank_Master, i use linux for many reasons

03:27 <Tank_Master> oh, youll see 8 cores

03:28 <Tank_Master> with HT as well

03:28 <Soul_keeper> HT is just a poor way to go about multithreading imo

03:28 <Tank_Master> yeah, cus sittine idle is so much better

03:28 <Soul_keeper> but yeah we'll see

03:28 <Tank_Master> sitting*

03:29 <Soul_keeper> i expect them to scale less effectively

03:29 <Soul_keeper> as thread count rises that is

03:29 <Tank_Master> as in overclock?

03:29 <Soul_keeper> no

03:29 <Tank_Master> ahh, ok

03:29 <Tank_Master> yeah, till be interesting

03:30 <Soul_keeper> like say it can execute 8 threads (4 cores with HT)  if you run 16 threads or 32   i expect them to hit diminishing returns far sooner than a true native 8 core design

03:30 <Tank_Master> but why would you *want* to run like that?

03:30 <Soul_keeper> you will run like that if you want to or not

03:31 <Soul_keeper> there are always 100's of processes running on a typical comp

03:31 * efc3 monitors the progression of weed-fueled CPU design

03:31 <Tank_Master> o.O?

03:31 <Tank_Master> weed fueled?

03:31 * efc3 adds sleep-deprived insight

03:31 * Tank_Master pushes efc3 into a crevasse

03:31 * efc3 sets off an LHC

03:31 <Soul_keeper> i could understand sharing a  unit or cluster of transistors  between two cores if they were clocked twice as high as the rest of the cpu ....

03:33 <Soul_keeper> by most calculations HT in the past only gave 30-40% increase, instead of the 50% you'd get from true dual core,   as load levels increase the numbers get worse

03:33 <efc3> they are probably seeing the CPUs being stalled worse and worse on memory latency and looking for some way around it

03:33 <Soul_keeper> i think it's mostly a marketing ploy by intel

03:33 <Soul_keeper> to say they got to 16 first or whatever

03:33 <Tank_Master> no, they are just trying to get mre throughput

03:33 <Tank_Master> more*

03:33 * efc3 wishes sci-fi channel would revise their no-skin policy

03:34 <Soul_keeper> but yeah we'll see

03:34 <Soul_keeper> lol

03:34 <efc3> it does seem to actually help my s@h throughput

03:34 <Tank_Master> instead of doubleing the core size, they can increase the size by 5-10% and get 25% increase in performance

03:34 <Tank_Master> its more economical to produce

03:35 <Tank_Master> would be mu assumtion why they do it

03:35 <efc3> The problem with it is, they reduce the already limited L2 cache resources available to each threat

03:35 <efc3> thread

03:35 <Soul_keeper> i'm not convinced of that, but i see where you're coming from

03:35 <Tank_Master> and to say "we can do something the other guy cant"

03:35 <Tank_Master> :P

03:36 <Tank_Master> efc - the nehalem only has something like 128k cache

03:36 <Soul_keeper> the integrated memory controller, and tri channel mem will likely be the most significant thing they'll bring to the table

03:36 * efc3 imagines a pay version of sci fi with these irritating restrictions removed

03:36 <Tank_Master> and the L3 cache

03:36 <efc3> 128k L2? Thats a disaster

03:36 <Tank_Master> that all 4 cores 8 threads acan access and update at once

03:36 <Tank_Master> you dont need much with the L3

03:37 <Tank_Master> its the L3 that is shared

03:37 <Soul_keeper> efc3, yeah those women on the new star trek would be welcome on my tv under than circumstances :)

03:38 * efc3 imagines edited versions of movies: with extra nudity and other goodies inserted instead of censored

03:38 <Tank_Master> heh

03:38 <Tank_Master> go to bed, efc

03:38 * efc3 finds this prospect more interesting than 16 core CPUs that still take 10 minutes to boot

03:38 <efc3> Like.. they'll add these clips.. that aren't even the same actors.. and it won't matter

03:38 * Tank_Master shoves a SSD up efc's nose

03:38 <Tank_Master> thatll boot faster

03:39 <efc3> Increases my uptime ?

03:39 <Tank_Master> yes

03:39 <Tank_Master> you sont be sleeping with that there

03:39 <Tank_Master> wont*

03:39 <Soul_keeper> am i the only one that gets tired and angry when he reads a book ?

03:40 <efc3> Also, we can create these scenes with Quake 1 or Apple II level animated characters

03:40 <Tank_Master> I dont read books

03:40 <efc3> i do too soul

03:40 <Soul_keeper> the fact that the book was about probabilities and mathematics probably didn't help ...

03:40 <efc3> made it through like 3 chapters of a law book

03:40 <Tank_Master> lol

03:40 <Tank_Master> burn it

03:40 <Soul_keeper> i was about 1/3rd of the way thru the second chapter and they started talking about fibonacci crap, i got angry as hell

03:41 <Soul_keeper> thru the book down

03:41 <efc3> Fibonacci's radical ideologies cannot be allowed to spread

03:41 <efc3> We must sieze the means of enumeration, comrades

03:41 <Soul_keeper> apparently the pope endorsed his book tho ...

03:42 <Tank_Master> and we all know how wise the poope is...

03:42 <efc3> A final condemnation

03:42 <Tank_Master> lol

03:42 <Tank_Master> defently an expert to speak on such matters

03:42 <efc3> right next to endorsing the book about the earth-centered universe probably

03:42 <Soul_keeper> the first chapter was great tho, it was talking about the history of gambling

03:43 <Soul_keeper> now i guess i have to go to sleep :)

03:43 <Soul_keeper> i got myself hooked on a video game

03:44 <efc3> which one>?

03:44 <Soul_keeper> need my sleep so i can play it for most of tomarrow

03:44 <Soul_keeper> wesnoth

03:44 <Soul_keeper> http://www.wesnoth.org/

03:44 <Romulus> Title: Battle for Wesnoth (at www.wesnoth.org)

03:44 <efc3> night here too

03:44 <Soul_keeper> multiplatform online turn based strategy

03:45 <Soul_keeper> you join the game server and it's like an irc channel

03:45 <Soul_keeper> can click on people's names and talk to them, and there is a server list

03:45 <Soul_keeper> pretty cool

03:45 <efc3> Will look sometime when I'm concious

03:45 <efc3> Night

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03:53 <Tank_Master> im heading out to

03:53 <Tank_Master> gn

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04:49 <CoderForLife> plink 200.160.115.100

04:51 <CoderForLife> that one was trying HTTP PUTs to index.asp, default.html, default.htm, home.aspx, defaut.aspx, index.aspx, home.html, home.htm, welcome.html, and welcome.htm

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06:05 <ELGono> morning don

06:06 <ELGono> hopefully just finished with heidis amp

06:06 <ELGono> just placed the missing 220nF capicator

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06:31 <BadBarbarian> &wx 86046

06:31 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: Temperature: 58F / 14.4C | Humidity: 53% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SSW | Wind Speed: 7mph / 11.3km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of evening thunderstorms then clearing. Lows 41 to 51. Southwest winds around 15 mph with gusts to around 30 mph in the evening becoming light.; Sunday - Mostly sunny in the morning...partly (1 more message)

06:31 <BadBarbarian> &more

06:31 <Romulus> BadBarbarian: cloudy with a 10 percent chance of thunderstorms in the afternoon. Highs 67 to 75. Light winds becoming southwest 15 to 20 mph in the afternoon.; Sunday Night - Partly cloudy with a 10 percent chance of evening thunderstorms then clearing. Lows 42 to 52. Southwest winds 15 to 20 mph in the evening becoming light.;

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06:44 <CoderForLife> howdy ELGono BadBarbarian

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06:47 <CoderForLife> finishing up my w@#% homew@#% downstairs on the laptop - going to Dallas tomorrow for 2 days of meetings

06:53 <CoderForLife> bbiab

06:58 <ELGono> texas has power again?

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08:07 <xcamel> 'lo

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08:32 <xcamel> ip kill >> 218.239.223.85

08:50 <CoderForLife> morning jay

08:50 <CoderForLife> another kill made - thx

08:51 <CoderForLife> I am not aware of the extent of power outages in Dallas, as opposed to Houston, ELGono

08:53 <xcamel> nothing in dallas, except for a few evacuees..

08:54 <xcamel> and a statue of J. R. Ewing

08:58 <xcamel> interesting >> http://election08.cs.uiuc.edu/home.html

08:58 <Romulus> Title: Election 08 (at election08.cs.uiuc.edu)

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09:48 <CoderForLife> that's comforting, xcamel

09:49 <CoderForLife> I wonder when the bitter clingers in PA will open their eyes

09:49 <CoderForLife> waiting for my dad to show up to tell me everything that wrong with the wall, patio and environs

09:49 <CoderForLife> bbiab

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11:32 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

11:32 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 67.2F / 19.6C | Humidity: 81% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Haze | Wind Direction: ESE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Rest of Today - Partly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the mid 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Monday - Mostly sunny. Highs around 80. Northeast winds around 5 mph.;

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11:37 <Tank_Master> &wx imanoob

11:37 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: HTTP Error 500: Server Error

11:37 <Tank_Master> figures

11:40 <CoderForLife> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=imanoob&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=122.922077,113.203125&ie=UTF8&ll=51.46751,-3.186679&spn=0.003425,0.003455&t=h&z=18&iwloc=A

11:40 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4tmy5k> (at maps.google.com)

11:42 <Tank_Master> lol

11:43 <Tank_Master> man thats a lot of polution in that inlet

11:44 <CoderForLife> that's what noobs do, I guess

11:44 * Tank_Master wants nothig to do of that

11:45 <CoderForLife> bbl - lunch, then drive into w@#% to print handouts for tomorrow

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12:08 <xcamel> re-hi

12:12 <CoderForLife> hey xcamel

12:13 <CoderForLife> bbl

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13:55 <BadBarbarian> http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=9833012&ch=4226714&src=news

13:55 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4pzfsn> (at cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com)

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15:03 <nickuwo> boinc error -161...

15:03 <nickuwo> &help

15:03 <Romulus> nickuwo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.

15:03 <PovAddict> &boincerr -161

15:03 <Romulus> PovAddict: not found

15:04 <nickuwo> mm

15:04 <PovAddict> how useful

15:04 <nickuwo> hehe

15:04 <Tank_Master> nick!

15:05 <nickuwo> Tank!

15:05 <Tank_Master> sup?

15:05 <Tank_Master> you see my last post?

15:05 <nickuwo> yea, I reset it this morning - zietgiest thinks it should be a tad higher, so i'll probably do that -- sound good?

15:06 <Tank_Master> I just got back, ill have to ready it

15:06 <nickuwo> ok

15:06 <PovAddict> hrm

15:06 <PovAddict> ramsey

15:06 <PovAddict> do I have an account there I wonder...

15:06 <Tank_Master> Id still like to know whay, with only 20 WUs lef, al so the 24 or 26th, my client doent think itll finish them i ntime

15:06 <Tank_Master> in time*

15:07 <Tank_Master> all do*

15:08 <Tank_Master> as long as the server stays up, 50 a core should be fine

15:08 <Tank_Master> at 30 min a WU, thats still enough for a day's worth of work

15:09 <nickuwo> clients are temperamental apparently

15:09 <Tank_Master> so just as long as you arnt offline for more than a few hrs, there should be any prob

15:09 <Tank_Master> yeah, they can be

15:09 <Tank_Master> and I must use 6.3.10 for a different project

15:09 <PovAddict> hmm I do have a ramsey account

15:09 <PovAddict> just wrong pw >.<

15:10 <Tank_Master> lol

15:11 <Tank_Master> oh, btw nick

15:11 <nickuwo> ?

15:11 <Tank_Master> yoyo was the one who told me about those settings

15:12 <Tank_Master> he's the admin for, well, yoyo

15:12 <yoyo[RKN]> ??

15:13 <nickuwo> nice, thx yoyo

15:13 <CoderForLife> hey folks

15:13 <PovAddict> Tank_Master spreading BS and making yoyo responsible? :P

15:13 <Tank_Master> yoy - nick was the admin I was telling you about that wanted to know how to limit the WUs per host

15:13 <yoyo[RKN]> urks

15:14 <Tank_Master> PovAddict - as always

15:14 <yoyo[RKN]> but I'm responsoble for everything only on Tuesdays

15:14 <Tank_Master> lol

15:15 <Tank_Master> so if cern blows up the world on a tuesday, its your fault?

15:15 <yoyo[RKN]> yes

15:15 <CoderForLife> that follows...

15:15 <Tank_Master> ok

15:15 <PovAddict> dad changing electric outlets

15:15 <Tank_Master> then I know who to sue should the world be distroyed on a tuesday

15:15 <CoderForLife> the first thing we do here is assign blame

15:15 <PovAddict> needs to disconnect house's power :)

15:15 <PovAddict> bbl

15:15 <yoyo[RKN]> you can blame me for the black hole afterwards on wednesday

15:16 <PovAddict> and it's yoyo's fault that the outlets are broken btw

15:16 <PovAddict> bye

15:16 <CoderForLife> voluntary power failure

15:16 <CoderForLife> bye

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15:18 <Tank_Master> or that pov owns romy?

15:18 * CoderForLife leans back in his chair after emerging victorius from his Powerpoint wrestling match

15:18 <Tank_Master> yould explain why rommy is so messed up

15:19 <xcamel> not hardly...

15:19 <CoderForLife> Rommy is less chatty that he used to be

15:19 <xcamel> just dragging him into another channel

15:19 <CoderForLife> hello Rommie's boss

15:20 <Tank_Master> yes, its nice he's not like a teanage girl

15:20 <xcamel> because all the skript kiddiez did was b1thc about it...

15:20 <Tank_Master> as much anyway

15:20 <CoderForLife> I couldn't imagine Rommy as "Valley"

15:20 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse

15:22 <xcamel> hmmm...

15:22 <xcamel> A mighty brave blogger in Kiwi land...

15:22 <xcamel> http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/09/obama-file-30-former-terrorists-bill.html

15:22 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4dh474> (at newzeal.blogspot.com)

15:23 <xcamel> FoxNews commentator Bill O'Reilly's website hacked

15:23 <xcamel> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/20/fox_news_bill_oreilly_hacked/

15:23 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5yz8hx> (at www.theregister.co.uk)

15:23 <xcamel> looks like things are getting ugly...

15:24 <Tank_Master> yeah

15:24 <Tank_Master> they are

15:25 <xcamel> 200 subscriber profiles - including private info posted...

15:28 <Tank_Master> shows the dimicrats wont stop at anything

15:30 <CoderForLife> one week later: 27,596 customers out still without power

15:40 <xcamel> that would really suck...

15:40 <CoderForLife> yeah - big time

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15:54 <CoderForLife> _o/ did you see the timelapse, PovAddict?

15:54 <PovAddict> hm nope

15:55 <CoderForLife> http://www.vimeo.com/1773626

15:55 <Romulus> Title: Wall Timelapse on Vimeo (at www.vimeo.com)

15:56 <xcamel> &math calc 140*4.60

15:56 <Romulus> xcamel: 644

15:57 <xcamel> that outage would have cost me $644 in generator time..

15:57 <CoderForLife> interesting

15:59 <CoderForLife> where did your numbers come from?

16:01 <xcamel> 20 gal/day x 7 days @ 4.60/gal

16:01 <CoderForLife> ah

16:02 <xcamel> more or less.. the fuel is cheaper now...

16:02 <Tank_Master> spendy

16:02 <CoderForLife> red kerosene?

16:03 <xcamel> off road diesel

16:04 <xcamel> NY now forces you to pay the road tax, then claim a refund later..

16:04 <xcamel> which also sucks

16:04 <CoderForLife> yeah

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16:04 <CoderForLife> moo

16:04 <efc> moo

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16:06 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

16:06 <BadBarbarian> moo too

16:06 <BadBarbarian> 'lo all

16:06 <efc> &weather 30625

16:06 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 73F / 23C | Humidity: 78% | Pressure: 30.17in / 1022hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0mph / 0km/h ; Rest of Today - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of sprinkles. Highs in the lower 80s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with a slight chance of sprinkles in the evening. Lows in the upper 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.; (1 more message)

16:06 <efc> &more

16:06 <Romulus> efc: Monday - Partly sunny in the morning then becoming mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.;

16:06 <xcamel> nearly the same here..

16:07 <PovAddict> &weather EZE

16:07 <Romulus> PovAddict: Temperature: 64°F / 18°C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1020hPa | Conditions: Scattered Clouds | Wind Direction: South | Wind Speed: 10mph / 17km/h | Updated: 4:00 PM ART; Scattered Clouds. High:62 F. / 17 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:46 F. / 8 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:69 F. / 21 C.; Overcast. Low:50 (1 more message)

16:07 <efc> Pretty nice

16:07 <PovAddict> winter should be finishing today

16:07 <PovAddict> last week felt like winter was just starting...

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16:12 <Soul_keeper> HEY !!!

16:13 <xcamel> as summer finishes with a whimper here..

16:13 * CoderForLife whimpers

16:15 <CoderForLife> bbiab

16:32 <xcamel> &wx 12074

16:32 <Romulus> xcamel: Temperature: 66.0F / 18.9C | Humidity: 77% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: ENE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy with isolated showers this evening...then partly cloudy after midnight. Lows in the upper 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.; Monday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Northeast winds 5 (1 more message)

16:32 <xcamel> &more

16:32 <Romulus> xcamel: to 10 mph.; Monday Night - Clear. Lows in the lower 40s. North winds 5 to 10 mph.;

16:32 <xcamel> cooled off a bit

16:54 * CoderForLife places an Internet order for pizza delivery

16:56 <nickuwo> mmm

16:57 <yoyo[RKN]> M&M

16:58 <xcamel> lol - sent the daughter after chinese..

16:59 <CoderForLife> slow response time is the achille's heel of Internet commerce

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17:01 <CoderForLife> hum-de-dum-dum

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17:09 <CoderForLife> dang slo site

17:09 <CoderForLife> but got it done, apparently

17:11 <xcamel> lol - bailout plan to be called "TARP"

17:11 <xcamel> I think it should be called "PORK"

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17:13 <CoderForLife> that's a stupid acronym

17:14 <CoderForLife> just ask the folks in my neighborhood with blue roofs

17:24 <CoderForLife> UROWNED would be better

17:26 <CoderForLife> GO2JAIL

17:48 <efc> TALOMTARE

17:48 <efc> Transferring A Lot Of Money To Already Rich Executives

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18:03 <CoderForLife> yummy pizza

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18:20 <efc> 7:06 mile, stinky

18:21 <CoderForLife> the world record is a bit faster than that, I believe

18:22 <efc> yeah it stunk

18:22 <CoderForLife> do or do not, there is no try (YodaCoder)

18:22 <efc> i did

18:23 <efc> did a 1:17 quarter earlier in the week

18:23 <CoderForLife> nice

18:23 <efc> the mile is fairly strong uphill, doesn't help

18:23 <xcamel> I spent a quarter earlier in the week...

18:24 * CoderForLife nods - yeah, that's the same

18:27 * CoderForLife catches up on personal finances data entry

18:28 * CoderForLife needs "people" to keep up with all his crap

18:29 <xcamel> Don - malkin >> http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/22/acorn-watch-pt-ii-obama-hid-800000-payment-to-acorn-through-citizen-services-inc/

18:29 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/5tfzfs> (at michellemalkin.com)

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18:29 <CoderForLife> looking

18:29 <CoderForLife> omg

18:30 <xcamel> who didn't see that one coming...

18:31 <CoderForLife> true

18:31 <xcamel> everyone who has read it has emailed a copy to Rush..

18:32 <CoderForLife> Drudge?

18:32 <xcamel> probably..

18:34 <xcamel> it is now...

18:34 <xcamel> we'll see if it pops up..

18:34 <CoderForLife> lol

18:34 <CoderForLife> I've done that before

18:35 <CoderForLife> Drudge has been pretty static today - may be out of pocket

18:35 <xcamel> foreign bank bailouts...

18:35 <xcamel> bad idea..

18:36 <CoderForLife> very bad

18:36 <PovAddict> http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/acorn2.jpg heh

18:36 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4pcs57> (at michellemalkin.com)

18:37 <CoderForLife> heh

18:38 <xcamel> right on the money - pun intended

18:38 <PovAddict> "This can't be! John McCain eliminated the corrupting influence of money in politics YEARS AGO!"

18:39 <CoderForLife> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipartisan_Campaign_Reform_Act

18:39 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/27nyjw> (at en.wikipedia.org)

18:39 <xcamel> it just comes in the back door now...

18:40 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: BCRA? "Barack" has those four letters, interesting

18:40 <CoderForLife> a fluid substances find a way to seep wherever they want to

18:40 <CoderForLife> a=all

18:40 * CoderForLife looks out the window

18:41 <xcamel> PALIN DRAWS CROWD OF 70,000 IN THE VILLAGES (FLORIDA RALLY 9/21/08)

18:41 <xcamel> (wow)

18:41 <CoderForLife> yup

18:41 <CoderForLife> the real deal

18:44 <Soul_keeper> nice

18:45 <Soul_keeper> her approval ratings amoung men are apparently much higher than amoung women ...

18:45 <Soul_keeper> she looks like tina fey

18:46 <CoderForLife> I had not heard of Tina Fey until now

18:46 <Soul_keeper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBzPQ5MKlNw

18:46 <Romulus> Title: YouTube - Tina Fey calling Paris Hilton a piece of shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (at www.youtube.com)

18:46 <PovAddict> a piece of work? :)

18:47 <Soul_keeper> lol

18:47 <PovAddict> &echo work

18:47 <Romulus> work

18:47 <Soul_keeper> tina fey on howard stern

18:47 <xcamel> same one.

18:47 <xcamel> kind of a dim bulb though

18:47 <Soul_keeper> palin's glasses have no frames tho

18:47 <Soul_keeper> apparently the japanese guy that makes them can't keep up with orders now

18:49 <Soul_keeper> http://deadon.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/tinafey_21313.jpg

18:49 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/2gv63j> (at deadon.files.wordpress.com)

18:50 <Soul_keeper> i'd be proud to an american :)

18:51 <Soul_keeper> the queen of england don't look that good, that chick they had in pakistan don't look that good ...

18:51 <Soul_keeper> we'd be the winner

18:52 <Soul_keeper> phillipines had a female leader too, she'd also lose

18:52 <CoderForLife> Israel is about to get a lady PM

18:54 * CoderForLife downloads bank transactions to check his accounts

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19:08 <Soul_keeper> http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/labels/Sarah Palin.html

19:23 <CoderForLife> good article

19:26 <CoderForLife> bbiab - need to get the trash out to the street, then get some money before my trip tomorrow

19:28 <MTughan> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080921

19:28 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4mxtbf> (at ars.userfriendly.org)

19:30 <xcamel> the story of that "object" really has the biggest brains on the planet scratching their heads...

19:31 <xcamel> middle of nowhere, and never-seen-before spectrum lines (adjusting for redshift)

19:34 <xcamel> bad photo...

19:34 <xcamel> http://supernova.lbl.gov/ACSclustersearch/zoom.jpg

19:34 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/46ywas> (at supernova.lbl.gov)

19:36 <xcamel> http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn9360-enigmatic-object-baffles-supernova-team.html

19:37 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/4renwd> (at space.newscientist.com)

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20:14 * CoderForLife prints some Google maps for driving in Dallas tomorrow

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20:20 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: will be you be driving on "normal" times?

20:21 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: http://xkcd.com/461/

20:21 <Romulus> Title: xkcd - A Webcomic - Google Maps (at xkcd.com)

20:21 <CoderForLife> what is normal?

20:22 <xcamel> 1. According to an established norm, rule, or principle;

20:22 <xcamel>       conformed to a type, standard, or regular form; performing

20:22 <xcamel>       the proper functions; not abnormal; regular; natural;

20:22 <xcamel>       analogical.

20:23 <CoderForLife> ah, science fiction

20:25 <CoderForLife> lol   Google Maps wouldn't steer me wrong =)

20:26 <CoderForLife> I reverse the directions, and it takes me a completely different path

20:27 <xcamel> on the other hand, you have more fingers...

20:28 <CoderForLife> my directions read like those, they say: "1. Head southeast on Lemmon Ave go 56 ft     2. Make a U-turn  go 0.2 mi"

20:28 <CoderForLife> verrrrry helpful

20:29 <xcamel> very possible on a boulevard

20:29 <CoderForLife> actually, yes - median divider

20:29 <xcamel> bingo.

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20:30 <xcamel> Dallas is like that..

20:30 <CoderForLife> I've been there before and remembered it

20:30 <CoderForLife> then Google street views brought it all back

20:31 <CoderForLife> I'm going from Loveland to Love Field tomorrow

20:31 <CoderForLife> all so sweet

20:34 <CoderForLife> flying into here http://www.businessjetcenter.com/

20:34 <Romulus> Title: Business Jet Center - Dallas FBO at Love Field Airport DAL/KDAL : North Texas Fixed Base Operation (at www.businessjetcenter.com)

20:40 <CoderForLife> time to do a little packing - gn folks - bb Wednesday

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20:47 <efc> Is it just me or are s@h wu's going faster now?

20:51 <xcamel> seems like I did get a whole bunch of them...

20:51 <efc> just about saturating my modem these days

20:51 <efc> with two p4s

20:52 <efc> logs don't really agree though

21:03 * efc imagines what will happen with a core2quad ..

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21:45 <PovAddict> http://zennyexchange.com/

21:45 <Romulus> Title: Zenny Exchange *BETA*: A Semi-Serious Virtual Currency (at zennyexchange.com)

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21:47 <bigt0242000> cool

21:55 <bigt0242000> i can't get to the account creation page

22:01 <bigt0242000> none of my web browsers like their ssl cert

22:01 <PovAddict> https://www.zennyexchange.com:443/ makes the SSL cert work, but gives Page not found

22:02 <PovAddict> I mean https://www.zennyexchange.com:443/CreateAccount.aspx

22:02 <Romulus> <http://tinyurl.com/3lrpzj> (at www.zennyexchange.com:443)

22:02 <bigt0242000> doesn't work in FF3

22:03 <PovAddict> doesn't work anywhere

22:03 <bigt0242000> so how are we to make new accounts?

22:04 <PovAddict> that site was probably made years ago and the author hasn't maintained it since then :)

22:04 <PovAddict> I sent an email...

22:04 <bigt0242000> o ok

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