00:00 <BadBarbarian> cpuis ?
00:00 <BadBarbarian> cpuid ?
00:00 <BadBarbarian> is it running ?
00:01 <nickuwo> si
00:02 <Tank_Master> id like some info on the mobo, see what CPUs it supports
00:02 <Tank_Master> and ram
00:04 <nickuwo> doesn't really tell me anything about the mobo
00:05 <Tank_Master> is it running windows right now?
00:05 <nickuwo> ubuntu server
00:06 <Tank_Master> ahh
00:06 <Tank_Master> in your program, does it at least state the shipste the motherbord has?
00:06 <Tank_Master> chipset*
00:07 <nickuwo> hmm
00:10 <nickuwo> gimme couple mins -- checking out boinc/ right now
00:10 <Tank_Master> ok
00:10 <Tank_Master> dont mine me
00:10 <Tank_Master> im used to people leaving me haning
00:10 <Tank_Master> hanging
00:10 <Tank_Master> :P
00:10 <nickuwo> sry dude :)
00:11 <Tank_Master> lol
00:11 <Tank_Master> no worries
00:11 <Tank_Master> im sure getting the project up is more important then wishing for upgrades
00:13 <nickuwo> I wish it was that - my ex-gf is talking my ear off as well - I can't concentrate!
00:13 <Tank_Master> lol
00:13 <nickuwo> hehe
00:14 <Tank_Master> are you in the states?
00:14 <nickuwo> ya, Wisconsin, u?
00:14 <Tank_Master> or
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00:15 <Tank_Master> makes getting you upgrades easier
00:15 <nickuwo> dude, that would be awesome - you really just have ram sittin around?
00:15 <Tank_Master> its high speed DDR400
00:16 <Tank_Master> I think I gave away all my ddr 33 already
00:16 <Tank_Master> id hate to waste the ram I have if your only running it at 266
00:16 <Tank_Master> 333*
00:16 <Tank_Master> I have load you up with more PC133 than you know what to do with :P
00:16 <nickuwo> haha
00:17 <nickuwo> good lord this girl can talk...
00:17 <Tank_Master> lol
00:18 <efc> I think I maxed out my PC100/133 machines..
00:18 <efc> or came close
00:19 <Tank_Master> I got 8 sticks of 128mb and 2 256...
00:19 <Tank_Master> PC133
00:20 <efc> i ended up with a bunch of spare CPUs from that generation
00:20 <Tank_Master> same here
00:20 <efc> spare 3/600 and 2/266
00:20 <Tank_Master> I literly have over 2 dozzen P3 1GHz
00:20 <efc> Wow hehe
00:21 <Tank_Master> and they should all still work
00:21 <efc> I wish a cheapo 16 CPU mb could be made since they are practically free
00:21 <Tank_Master> you need a 256gb IDE HD?
00:21 <efc> and their power efficiency isn't bad still
00:21 <efc> I can always use one..
00:21 <Tank_Master> err 250gb
00:22 <Tank_Master> would it be used for the project?
00:22 <efc> Probablt not hehe
00:22 <Tank_Master> heh
00:22 <Tank_Master> not that I have use for ide drives anymore
00:22 <efc> Don't worry about it, if I ever really need one I rattle the bushes
00:22 <Tank_Master> I got rid of all anything older than acore2
00:22 <efc> i don't even run my p3-600s anymore
00:23 <efc> except in winter when its cold
00:23 <Tank_Master> lol
00:23 <Tank_Master> ill be selling off my quads in a month or two
00:25 <efc> Core quads?
00:25 <Tank_Master> core2 yeah
00:25 <efc> You replacing them with core2pents ?
00:25 <Tank_Master> nehalems
00:25 <nickuwo> I thought I had a lot of computer crap...
00:26 <Tank_Master> lol
00:26 <nickuwo> :) spose it comes in handy tho
00:26 <Tank_Master> nick - can you use a 250GB hd?
00:26 <nickuwo> shit yea
00:26 <wdsmia> asks nickuwo to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
00:26 <Tank_Master> for your project?
00:26 <nickuwo> hehe
00:27 * Tank_Master asks wdsmia to shut the fuck up
00:27 <nickuwo> haha
00:27 * efc senses a loophole
00:27 <Tank_Master> lol
00:27 <nickuwo> it worked
00:27 <Tank_Master> or shit is bad, but not fuch
00:27 <wdsmia> asks Tank_Master to please watch his or her language… Thanks, your friendly channel op.
00:27 <Tank_Master> LOL
00:27 <nickuwo> wow... awesome :)
00:28 <Tank_Master> so, nick, the HD - would it be used for your project?
00:28 <efc> Johann Fux's Gradus Ad Parnassum is a famous treatise on counterpoint
00:28 <Tank_Master> and if so, how meny?
00:29 <efc> I got stuck on the fpga project, would have needed a pile of DDR2 if that had gone anywhere
00:30 <nickuwo> yes - lemme get this db running (it's got a 120GB in it) and if it eats up memory too quick I'll let ya know - again that's awfully nice of you
00:30 <Tank_Master> not like Im using this crap
00:30 <efc> Nehalem hasn't even come out yet has it?
00:30 <nickuwo> you should - start a boinc server :)
00:31 <Tank_Master> itll be out oct 28th or so
00:31 <Tank_Master> and run what?
00:31 <Tank_Master> no, I dont kow linux anyway
00:31 <nickuwo> it's all good, I didn't know linux in January
00:32 <nickuwo> now i do (kindof)
00:32 <Tank_Master> :P
00:34 <nickuwo> yikes 14 queries per second
00:34 <nickuwo> i think something is wrong besides my db
00:35 <Tank_Master> could be paul from starfire trying to return his few thousand WUs
00:35 <Tank_Master> from 7 different quads
00:35 <nickuwo> seriously?
00:35 <Tank_Master> about his quads? returning that much?
00:36 <Tank_Master> wouldnt supprise me
00:36 <Tank_Master> dunno what kind of impace that would have on the db though
00:36 <Tank_Master> impact*
00:36 <nickuwo> well perhaps I'll let it run all night and see if it gets any better
00:36 <Tank_Master> what kind of comp are you using now to run the project?
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00:38 <nickuwo> celeron 1.8GHz 750MB
00:38 <Tank_Master> eesh
00:39 <Tank_Master> what kind of ram?
00:39 <Tank_Master> now I really wish I haddent gotten rid of all my DDR33s :P
00:40 <Tank_Master> and if you can get me the socket type, ill ask around to see if anyone has a faster CPU laying around
00:40 <Tank_Master> between starfire and seti.usa, and those here, we should be abelt to get you upgraded easly
00:41 <nickuwo> might be better to upgrade the vaio -- but maybe not
00:41 <Tank_Master> so you have a 512 and a 256MB stick now
00:41 <Tank_Master> no
00:42 <Tank_Master> it would be better to upgrade both and split off the db on the the sony
00:42 <Tank_Master> use both comps
00:42 <nickuwo> that works too
00:42 <Tank_Master> more secure and better performance
00:43 <efc> So you must be a bleeding edge type Tank? I never buy something within 6 months of it coming out :)
00:43 <Tank_Master> its obsolete in 6 months
00:43 <nickuwo> hehe
00:44 <Tank_Master> Ill sell you my "old" comps, hows that? :P
00:44 <efc> mine is from 2004
00:44 <efc> and its still 'enough'
00:44 <efc> except for BOINC, then never is never enough
00:45 <Tank_Master> ill be selling off a q9450, qx6700 and e6600 in 1-2 months
00:45 <Tank_Master> 4GB ram for the q9450, 2GB for the rest
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00:47 <efc> Nice.. I can't afford to turn them over that fast.. or won't
00:47 <Tank_Master> id like to get 1,500 for the 3
00:47 <Tank_Master> should be enough for 2 nehalmes
00:48 <Soul_keeper> lol
00:48 <Soul_keeper> they'll probably be on ebay for 200 bucks by then ...
00:48 <Tank_Master> lol
00:48 <Tank_Master> probably
00:48 <nickuwo> welp, I'm off to bed, later guys, taker easy
00:48 <Tank_Master> crags' list I hear can be more resonable
00:48 <Tank_Master> tc nickuwo
00:49 <Soul_keeper> craig's list can be kinda flakey, you might get robbed
00:49 <Tank_Master> any more info on hardware that you need, pm me here or on your board
00:49 <nickuwo> sounds good, thx
00:49 <Tank_Master> true
00:49 <Tank_Master> but I havent heard of that happening around here
00:50 <Soul_keeper> i've never sold a used computer, but my general experience is that people want nothing to do with used computers
00:50 <Tank_Master> Ive sold 3 dells
00:50 <Soul_keeper> cool
00:51 <Tank_Master> 1 e-bay, 1 to a team member, and well my parrent bought for my grandma
00:51 <efc> some people buy them at work here for $10 and sell em for 100-200 at the local fleemarket
00:51 <Tank_Master> e-bad was $350 and team memebr was $300 for a P4 system
00:52 <Soul_keeper> i need to get rid of my P4 and athlonxp would probably only get maybe 300 for the pair ... but yours are much newer
00:52 <Tank_Master> then I have sold a lot of mobo/cpu/ram combos on e-may for $150-200
00:53 <Tank_Master> Im hoping $750 for the q9450, $550 for the qx6700 and $350-450 for the e6600
00:54 <Soul_keeper> good luck
00:56 <Tank_Master> no kidden
00:56 <Tank_Master> these would be compleat systems w/o OS
00:58 <Tank_Master> 9/22/2008 9:58:07 PM|ramsey|Message from server: Completed result ramsey_1222094406_32_0 refused: result already reported as success
00:58 <Tank_Master> 9/22/2008 9:58:07 PM|ramsey|Message from server: Completed result ramsey_1222094406_33_0 refused: result already reported as success
00:59 <Tank_Master> strange
01:09 <efc> $275 for Q9400 2.66ghz/45nm right now
01:09 <Tank_Master> just the cpu?
01:09 <efc> yes
01:10 <Tank_Master> k
01:10 <Tank_Master> how much for a 9450
01:10 <efc> 9450 - $320
01:10 <Tank_Master> better :P
01:11 <Tank_Master> I have 4 GB ram, a 250$ mobo, still debating on which HDs to get rid of...
01:11 <efc> Do the 45s chew noticably less power than the 65s ?
01:11 <Tank_Master> yes
01:11 <efc> I think I remember that being the case even though the TDP didn't change
01:11 <Tank_Master> run hella cooler to
01:12 <Tank_Master> I have a thermaltake tsunmi, and even with the fan at the slowest speed, the heatsink is still coold
01:12 <Tank_Master> eben though the CPU is o.ced
01:17 <efc> Might get a new monitor first, that'll overtax my video card, and force me to upgrade everything else
01:18 <Tank_Master> LOL
01:18 <Tank_Master> nice
01:18 <efc> 17" lcd right now
01:19 <Tank_Master> im on a 21" crt and a 19" crt
01:19 <efc> I like the Dell 24 wides but the input lag scares me off
01:19 <Tank_Master> dual screan
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01:19 <Tank_Master> I want the dell 30"
01:20 <efc> the new 24 has around 40 ms of delay (input buffering, not smearing type delay)
01:20 <Tank_Master> ah
01:20 <Tank_Master> yeah
01:20 <Tank_Master> one area CRTs still domonate
01:21 <Tank_Master> that and color reproduction
01:21 <efc> I still like them pretty well, but don't think I'll get a new one (if I could even find a good new one)
01:21 <Tank_Master> yeah\
01:21 <Tank_Master> you do need a big desk
01:22 <efc> at $600 though I wish they didn't have to complicate my decision with that lag..
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01:24 <Tank_Master> yeah
01:26 <Tank_Master> kool
01:26 <Tank_Master> the nehalems have a turbo mode :P
01:27 <Tank_Master> increases the speed of the CPU by 266MHz when its not fully utilized
01:28 <efc> Above the box speed?
01:28 <Tank_Master> yeah
01:28 <efc> So you want it 99.9% used hehe
01:29 <Tank_Master> so long as the CPU is oprtating under its designed power level, it will increase the speed by 133 or 266MHz
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01:36 <Tank_Master> efc
01:36 <efc> moo?
01:36 <Tank_Master> http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.aspx?i=3413 <- middle of the page
01:36 <Tank_Master> CPU Power Consumption
01:37 <Tank_Master> defently not a compleat listing
01:37 <efc> Ah, saw that but missed the cpu stuff
01:37 <Tank_Master> :P
01:38 <efc> 60 W, pretty good
01:38 <Tank_Master> yeah
01:38 <Tank_Master> at full load
01:44 <Tank_Master> wow
01:44 <Tank_Master> the cals in windows 7 has gotten a major upgrade
01:44 <Tank_Master> calc*
01:52 <efc> Excellent, glad they got their priorities straight
01:59 <Tank_Master> wordpad has also had a major upgrade to it
02:00 <Tank_Master> its actually usefull on its won
02:00 <Tank_Master> own*
02:09 <efc> video card fan freezing up, brb i hope
02:09 <Tank_Master> gl
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02:23 <Tank_Master> have issues?
02:24 <efc> blew off the fan, added a drop of thick mineral oil, seems to be oj
02:24 <efc> ok
02:24 <Tank_Master> good
02:24 <efc> it was bogging down and then back up\
02:24 <Tank_Master> lol
02:24 <efc> 6 years old, needs a drop of oil a year or so..
02:24 <Tank_Master> blowing the dust is something I need to do one of these days
02:24 <Tank_Master> I havent done it all summer
02:25 <Tank_Master> and my window was open almost all the time
02:25 <efc> My trusty old GF4-4400..
02:25 <Tank_Master> LOL
02:25 <Tank_Master> man
02:26 <Tank_Master> I havent used anything that old in a LOONGG time
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02:26 <efc> pretty good use of the $220
02:26 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123
02:26 <Tank_Master> &more
02:26 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 48.2°F / 9.0°C | Humidity: 84% | Pressure: 30.03in / 1016.8hPa (Rising) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: North | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear...becoming partly cloudy late. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the 40s. Light wind except northwest wind 5 mph near Columbia River.; Tuesday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs 70 to 75. Light wind.; (1 more message)
02:26 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Tuesday Night - Partly cloudy. Lows 45 to 50. Light wind.;
02:27 <Tank_Master> its 46 now
02:29 <Tank_Master> first time in months I havent had the fan going in my window
02:30 <efc> Wow, where is that?
02:30 <efc> &weather 31088
02:30 <Romulus> efc: Temperature: 62°F / 17°C | Humidity: 97% | Pressure: 30.22in / 1023hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 4mph / 6km/h ; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the upper 50s. Light northeast winds.; Tuesday - Sunny...windy. Highs in the mid 80s. Northeast winds 15 to 25 mph.; Tuesday Night - Clear. Lows in the upper 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;
02:30 <Tank_Master> oregon
02:30 <Tank_Master> we dont have AC here
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02:33 * efc still needs to buy a place
02:34 <Tank_Master> :P
02:34 <efc> so i can do all my wild experiments
02:34 <efc> My bunker will have various antenna and radio telescopes..
02:34 <Tank_Master> lol
02:35 <Tank_Master> ahh
02:35 <efc> and solar collectors scattered aroun
02:35 <Tank_Master> sweet
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02:35 <Romulus> WB, Boss
02:35 * Tank_Master pushes Romulus into a crevasse
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03:10 <Tank_Master> ps3grid is somewhat up
03:12 <efc> studying for ham test.. it needs to be like, shorter or something
03:12 <Tank_Master> lol
03:13 <Tank_Master> so you want to be a smap operator...
03:13 <Tank_Master> spam*
03:18 <efc> Ham Spam?
03:18 <Tank_Master> something like that
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03:24 <efc> can pass the first one pretty easy and thought I'd try the second
03:25 <Tank_Master> hows your moris code?
03:25 <efc> Zero. Well, I know S and O.
03:26 <Tank_Master> lol
03:26 <Tank_Master> nice
03:27 <Tank_Master> anywho, im off to bed
03:28 <efc> Night
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03:51 <efc> &math convert 100 kelvin to f
03:51 <Romulus> efc: Error: kelvin is not a valid unit.
03:51 <efc> &math convert 100 kelvins to f
03:51 <Romulus> efc: Error: kelvins is not a valid unit.
03:51 <Tidus> &math convert 100 k to f
03:51 <Romulus> Tidus: Error: k is not a valid unit.
03:51 <Tidus> hm...
03:52 <efc> &math convert 100 K to F
03:52 <Romulus> efc: -279.67
03:52 <Tidus> that works
03:52 <efc> &math convert 100 K to C
03:52 <Romulus> efc: -173.15
03:52 <efc> Chilly
03:52 <Tidus> lol
03:52 <efc> receiver temp for some seti calculations
03:53 <Tidus> i cant get boinc to run on my mac
03:53 <Tidus> it refuses to talk on the internet
03:53 <efc> Hmm..
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03:59 <Tidus> yeah, its weird
03:59 <Tidus> installs and runs just fine
03:59 <Tidus> just refuses to make any communication
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04:10 <efc> Hmm, maybe its a port # thing
04:16 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: 2008-09-19: BOINCstats - Unexpected downtime ~~ 2008-09-01: BOINCstats - Country deeplinks changed! ~~ 2008-08-22: BOINCstats - Database problems ~~ 2008-08-18: BOINCstats - New BOINCstats framework ~~ 2008-07-28: BOINCstats - Network problems ~~ 2008-07-25: BOINCstats - System Administrator Appreciation Day ~~ 2008-06-23: BAM! - Limited number of BAM! user accounts compromised ~~ 2008-06-02: BOINCstats - BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Turkish ~~ 2008-05-11: BOINCstats - Unscheduled downtime ~~ 2008-04-28: BOINCstats - BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Brazilian Portuguese
04:19 <ELGono> lo eddie
04:23 <efc> moo ELGono
04:33 <ELGono> hows life across the pond?
04:33 <efc> Pretty good, sit back and relax as the rich people fight each other
04:34 <ELGono> hehe sounds good
04:34 <efc> Hitting the sack. Night ELGono.
04:34 <ELGono> sleep well efc
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04:35 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany
04:35 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 45Â°F / 7Â°C | Humidity: 100% | Pressure: 30.05in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Light Rain | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 2mph / 4km/h | Updated: 10:00 AM CEST; Chance of Rain. High:51 ° F. / 11 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:42 ° F. / 6 ° C.; Partly Cloudy. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:44 ° F. / 7 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. High:53 ° F. / 12 ° C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:41 ° F. / 5 ° (1 more message)
04:48 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: 2008-09-19: BOINCstats - Unexpected downtime ~~ 2008-09-01: BOINCstats - Country deeplinks changed! ~~ 2008-08-22: BOINCstats - Database problems ~~ 2008-08-18: BOINCstats - New BOINCstats framework ~~ 2008-07-28: BOINCstats - Network problems ~~ 2008-07-25: BOINCstats - System Administrator Appreciation Day ~~ 2008-06-23: BAM! - Limited number of BAM! user accounts compromised ~~ 2008-06-02: BOINCstats - BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Turkish ~~ 2008-05-11: BOINCstats - Unscheduled downtime ~~ 2008-04-28: BOINCstats - BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Brazilian Portuguese
04:49 <Tidus> &weather 72764
04:49 <Romulus> Tidus: Temperature: 58.8°F / 14.9°C | Humidity: 93% | Pressure: 30.23in / 1023.6hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: SE | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Patchy fog after midnight. Lows in the upper 50s. Light winds.; Tuesday - Partly cloudy. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs in the lower 80s. Light winds becoming south around 10 mph in the afternoon.; Tuesday Night - Clear. Lows (1 more message)
04:49 <Tidus> &more
04:49 <Romulus> Tidus: 54 to 60. Light winds.;
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06:29 <Romulus> WB, Boss
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07:15 <hawmps> &wx
07:15 <Romulus> hawmps: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information.
07:15 <hawmps> &wx 12020
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07:15 <hawmps> &more
07:15 <Romulus> hawmps: 10 mph.;
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15:10 <yoyo_RKN> nickuwo: ?
15:28 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo
15:37 <yoyo_RKN> hi
15:37 <yoyo_RKN> where is nickuwo and how is his project running
15:37 <Tank_Master> its limping along
15:37 <Tank_Master> dunno where he is atm
15:37 <Tank_Master> he got a second comp yesterday that he is going to put the db onto
15:38 <Tank_Master> its a P4 2.66 with ht
15:38 <Tank_Master> with 512 mb ram:P
15:38 <Tank_Master> which is better than his current celert 1.8 with 768mb ram
15:39 <Tank_Master> celery*
15:39 <Tank_Master> aka celeron
15:41 <yoyo_RKN> ui
15:41 <yoyo_RKN> ramsey runs on a celeron
15:43 <Tank_Master> yep
15:43 <Tank_Master> P4 willamette type
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15:43 <yoyo_RKN> it like my start with yoyo@home
15:43 <Tank_Master> :)
15:44 <Tank_Master> I take it you have better comps now
15:44 <yoyo_RKN> running in a VM on my 1.7 Pentium with 500MB memory
15:45 <yoyo_RKN> at home
15:45 <Tank_Master> lol
15:45 <yoyo_RKN> now it is a root server with 1GB memory
15:45 <Tank_Master> ahh
15:45 <yoyo_RKN> memory is the most important thing
15:45 <Tank_Master> yep
15:46 <Tank_Master> if you ever need a comp, I got some ill be selling here soon
15:46 <Tank_Master> core2do or higher
15:49 <yoyo_RKN> first yoyo runs on our team server
15:49 <yoyo_RKN> until the overload crash end of January
15:49 <yoyo_RKN> now it is a own server
15:49 <Tank_Master> good
15:52 <Tank_Master> what kind of comp is it running on now?
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15:57 <Romulus> Title: SERVERBASAR - WARUM MEHR BEZAHLEN?! - In 4 Schritten zum eigenen Root Server! (at serverbasar.de)
16:00 <Tank_Master> and that take a anthlon 64 3700?
16:01 <Tank_Master> can*
16:02 <Tank_Master> though your not in the states, are you?
16:02 <Tank_Master> n/m
16:02 <Tank_Master> I got a 3700 I cant get rid of
16:06 * yoyo_RKN <<---- Germany
16:10 <Tank_Master> ahh
16:25 <yoyo_RKN> what about PovAddict's project
16:25 <yoyo_RKN> is it frozen or cancelled
16:25 <bigt0242000> what project?
16:25 <Romulus> Somebody said what project are we talking about, bigt0242000
16:26 <Tank_Master> imp
16:26 <Tank_Master> ?
16:26 <yoyo_RKN> yes
16:26 <Tank_Master> nothing has ran on that in at least a year
16:36 <Tank_Master> ill bbl
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16:41 <xcamel> 'lo
16:47 <Tank_Master> hi
16:48 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: BOINCstats: Unexpected downtime ~~ BOINCstats: Country deeplinks changed! ~~ BOINCstats: Database problems ~~ BOINCstats: New BOINCstats framework ~~ BOINCstats: Network problems ~~ BOINCstats: System Administrator Appreciation Day ~~ BAM!: Limited number of BAM! user accounts compromised ~~ BOINCstats: BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Turkish ~~ BOINCstats: Unscheduled downtime ~~ BOINCstats: BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Brazilian Portuguese ~~ BOINCstats: Pies... Want them in 2D or 3D? ~~ BAM!: Pimp your signature! ~~ BOINCstats: Team recruitment and the PM system ~~ BOINCstats: Results of the Top Team Stat in January 2008 ~~ BOINCstats: All new stats!! ~~ BOINCstats: Scheduled downtime ~~ BOINCstats: Unexpected downtown ~~ BAM!: Enigma URL switch ~~ BOINCstats: Unexpected system reboot ~~ BOINCstats: Planned maintenance
16:51 <bigt0242000> where in the world did that come from?
16:51 <Tank_Master> no clue
16:51 <xcamel> auto rss feed from BS/bam
16:52 <Tank_Master> why would rss have something the main page does not?
16:52 <bigt0242000> exactly
16:53 <xcamel> because bs provides a separate feed for headlines..
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16:53 <xcamel> and it's been broken for a while..
16:53 <bigt0242000> the first one listed is from the 19th
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17:04 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: BOINCstats: Unexpected downtime ~~ BOINCstats: Country deeplinks changed! ~~ BOINCstats: Database problems ~~ BOINCstats: New BOINCstats framework ~~ BOINCstats: Network problems ~~ BOINCstats: System Administrator Appreciation Day ~~ BAM!: Limited number of BAM! user accounts compromised ~~ BOINCstats: BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Turkish ~~ BOINCstats: Unscheduled downtime ~~ BOINCstats: BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Brazilian Portuguese ~~ BOINCstats: Pies... Want them in 2D or 3D? ~~ BAM!: Pimp your signature! ~~ BOINCstats: Team recruitment and the PM system ~~ BOINCstats: Results of the Top Team Stat in January 2008 ~~ BOINCstats: All new stats!! ~~ BOINCstats: Scheduled downtime ~~ BOINCstats: Unexpected downtown ~~ BAM!: Enigma URL switch ~~ BOINCstats: Unexpected system reboot ~~ BOINCstats: Planned maintenance
17:06 <xcamel> weird..
17:06 <bigt0242000> lol
17:21 <wdsmia> re-hi
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17:27 <xcamel> 'lo Doug
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17:32 <wdsmia> *lo Jay
17:34 <xcamel> woha - big news - Clay Aiken is gay.
17:35 <xcamel> where is Captian Obvious when you need him..
17:35 <bigt0242000> lol
17:35 <xcamel> woooosh!
17:36 <Romulus> New news from boincstats: BOINCstats: Unexpected downtime ~~ BOINCstats: Country deeplinks changed! ~~ BOINCstats: Database problems ~~ BOINCstats: New BOINCstats framework ~~ BOINCstats: Network problems ~~ BOINCstats: System Administrator Appreciation Day ~~ BAM!: Limited number of BAM! user accounts compromised ~~ BOINCstats: BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Turkish ~~ BOINCstats: Unscheduled downtime ~~ BOINCstats: BOINCstats and BAM! now also in Brazilian Portuguese ~~ BOINCstats: Pies... Want them in 2D or 3D? ~~ BAM!: Pimp your signature! ~~ BOINCstats: Team recruitment and the PM system ~~ BOINCstats: Results of the Top Team Stat in January 2008 ~~ BOINCstats: All new stats!! ~~ BOINCstats: Scheduled downtime ~~ BOINCstats: Unexpected downtown ~~ BAM!: Enigma URL switch ~~ BOINCstats: Unexpected system reboot ~~ BOINCstats: Planned maintenance
17:36 <bigt0242000> lol i think he's broke
17:37 <xcamel> not he - BAM
17:38 <xcamel> boincstats removed
17:39 <wdsmia> that should do it
17:40 <bigt0242000> is there a way to configure it so that it only shows the latest news item?
17:40 <xcamel> not really..
17:41 <xcamel> the feed is bad from BS
17:44 <xcamel> new/old tags are missing it seems
17:46 <wdsmia> sounds like willy has been playing again
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18:01 <PovAddict> my DNS is broken
18:01 <PovAddict> again
18:05 <KathrynM> that stinks
18:05 <PovAddict> I guess I'll have to go again to 184.108.40.206/220.127.116.11
18:11 <Tank_Master> then fix it
18:11 <Tank_Master> I use 18.104.22.168
18:16 <Tank_Master> WHAT THE FUU#$%#$^%
18:17 <PovAddict> ...
18:17 <Tank_Master> I went from boinc 6.3.11 to 6.3.10 and it waped all the info in the directories
18:17 <Tank_Master> all work is gone
18:17 <Tank_Master> all projects deteched...
18:17 <wdsmia> rofl
18:17 <PovAddict> did you look at the directories yourself?
18:17 <Tank_Master> what the heck are those numnuts at berkeley doing?
18:17 <Tank_Master> yes
18:18 <Tank_Master> 11 total files
18:18 <Tank_Master> in the data dir
18:18 <PovAddict> is there data in the program dir?
18:18 <Tank_Master> ya
18:18 <PovAddict> maybe the .11 uninstaller moved stuff to the program dir and the .10 installer didn't move it back to the data dir?
18:18 <PovAddict> or something
18:19 <Tank_Master> when I installed .10, I saw "migrating data"
18:19 <Tank_Master> more like "deleting data"
18:19 <PovAddict> do you have a program files\boinc\projects?
18:19 <Tank_Master> d:\boincx64p
18:19 <PovAddict> whatever
18:19 <Tank_Master> and d:\boincx64d for data
18:20 <PovAddict> is there a 'projects' subdir in the *program* dir?
18:20 <Tank_Master> no
18:20 <Tank_Master> just looked
18:20 <PovAddict> and the one in the data dir is... empty?
18:20 <Tank_Master> mostly
18:20 <Tank_Master> like a fress install would have
18:21 <Tank_Master> dosent even have the cc_)config file
18:21 <Tank_Master> and I had an orbit file to
18:22 <PovAddict> whine on boinc_alpha
18:29 <wdsmia> &wx 50319
18:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: Temperature: 78.5°F / 25.8°C | Humidity: 62% | Pressure: 30.10in / 1019.2hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: SW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Thunderstorms likely in the evening...then mostly cloudy with a chance of thunderstorms after midnight. Low in the lower 60s. South wind 5 to 15 mph. Gusts up to 25 mph in the evening. Chance of thunderstorms 60 percent.; (1 more message)
18:29 <wdsmia> &more
18:29 <Romulus> wdsmia: Wednesday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers and isolated thunderstorms in the morning. Patchy fog in the morning. High in the upper 70s. Northwest wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation 20 percent.; Wednesday Night - Partly cloudy. Low in the upper 50s. Northeast wind around 5 mph shifting to the east after midnight.;
18:29 <Tank_Master> man
18:29 <Tank_Master> it even set a new host ID
18:29 <PovAddict> go merge
18:29 <Tank_Master> in bam?
18:29 <PovAddict> oh new hostID in BAM?
18:29 <PovAddict> >.<
18:30 <Tank_Master> yeah
18:30 <PovAddict> then you'll have to set the "attach project" checkboxes again on the new host
18:30 <PovAddict> and delete the old one
18:30 <Tank_Master> liiks like it did a cleam wipe of everything
18:31 <Tank_Master> ahh ha!
18:31 <Tank_Master> uninstalling deletes the data directory
18:31 <Tank_Master> compleatly
18:31 <PovAddict> WTF
18:31 <Tank_Master> not even the folder remains
18:31 <Tank_Master> the programs folder is still there though
18:31 <PovAddict> uninstalling may move the contents of the data directory into the program directory
18:31 <Tank_Master> nope
18:32 <PovAddict> look if in programs you now have the project/bam/etc xmls
18:32 <PovAddict> and projects/slots folders
18:32 <Tank_Master> oh, ther is a proj folder now
18:32 <Tank_Master> why didnt it do that in the first time?
18:35 <Tank_Master> heh wtf
18:35 <Tank_Master> I still had my old dir from when I was running boinc 5.10.45
18:35 <Tank_Master> apparently it moed everything into there
18:35 <Tank_Master> for I uninstalled 11 again
18:36 <Tank_Master> deleted the stuff in boincx64p
18:36 <Tank_Master> and moved everything over from boincx64
18:36 <Tank_Master> and now that I reinstalled 11, it is right back with all the work it had
18:36 <Tank_Master> this is messed up
18:42 <Tank_Master> at least I got my work back
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19:27 <nickuwo> hey Pov - I was playing with a number of the settings in my.cnf but none of them seemed to lessen the load. There were about 2x as many queries per sec yesterday than there are today tho, for a number of reasons, so I think I'll be alright as long as those conditions don't occur again...
19:27 <Tank_Master> nick!
19:28 <Tank_Master> you last some of our top people
19:28 <Tank_Master> thats why your load is less
19:28 <Tank_Master> less comps attached
19:30 <paulbot> i hear the project runs on some old hardware. I'd be happy to donate something more recent, like a pentium D 930 and mobo
19:30 <Tank_Master> wow
19:31 <Tank_Master> from a celeron 1.8
19:31 <PovAddict> I also know the project runs some crap software
19:31 <PovAddict> (called BOINC)
19:31 <Tank_Master> thats would help
19:32 <PovAddict> you have no idea how un-optimized the BOINC database structure is
19:32 <Tank_Master> lol
19:32 <Tank_Master> one db fits all
19:33 <PovAddict> ...
19:33 <PovAddict> quite correct actually
19:33 <PovAddict> the 'result' table gets fragmented as hell, because it has too much stuff
19:34 <PovAddict> also, around the *middle* there is the stderr field
19:34 <PovAddict> so first, a lot of results are added to the database
19:35 <PovAddict> when they get returned, each row grows significantly to fit the stderr text
19:35 <PovAddict> it can't really "grow"... there is another row right next to it
19:35 <PovAddict> so it gets fragmented
19:36 <PovAddict> then queries to the result table start getting slow
19:36 <Tank_Master> I think nickuwo ran off on us again
19:36 <PovAddict> Janus (BURP admin) did quite a complete analysis on that
19:36 <nickuwo> whoops sry, digg sucked me in
19:37 <PovAddict> "A programmer is someone who is so irritated by small inconveniences that they will spend weeks writing a script, so they can spend days debugging same script, so they can save five minutes of their time, which they will waste reading slashdot."
19:40 <nickuwo> Tank: who did we lose?
19:41 <Tank_Master> dr dan
19:41 <Tank_Master> has a few dozzen comps
19:41 <Tank_Master> rather high end
19:42 <Tank_Master> like at least 10 quads
19:42 <nickuwo> bummer...
19:42 <Tank_Master> he's not abandoning it, just going elsewhere untill things smoth out
19:42 <Tank_Master> did you see paulbot's offer?
19:43 <nickuwo> ya, thanks paulbot!
19:43 <Tank_Master> do you want it?
19:45 <nickuwo> thats awesome you guys are willing to do that, I have some qualms about it tho, I have other, more powerful computers lying around that I use minimally... I should probably butcher those before taking stuff from you guys
19:48 <Tank_Master> like I said, im not using it
19:49 <nickuwo> true
19:49 <nickuwo> If i take that vaio apart how do I tell what find of ram it is?
19:50 <PovAddict> are you running the project on a laptop?
19:51 <PovAddict> the most important things for database servers are amount of RAM, speed of RAM, and speed of hard disk (not in order; I don't really know which of the three is most important)
19:52 <Tank_Master> there should be some serial number on it
19:52 <Tank_Master> the sony only has 512mb
19:52 <Tank_Master> and its Im guessing ddr 266 or 333
19:53 <Tank_Master> so yeah, he needs more
19:53 <PovAddict> the ideal speed is acheved when the whole database fits in RAM
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19:54 <CoderForLife> greetings
19:54 <PovAddict> (I think some Einstein@Home servers have 32GB of RAM or so)
19:54 <PovAddict> hey CFL
19:54 <PovAddict> how good are you at DB optimization? :)
19:57 <nickuwo> hmm, my db is about 1.5GB
19:57 <CoderForLife> hey PovAddcit - home from Texas
19:57 <PovAddict> nickuwo: it's probably fragmented as hell
19:58 <PovAddict> my worst was once having a 6GB data file
19:58 <wdsmia> *lo Don
19:58 <KathrynM> whoa! CoderForLife!!!
19:58 <CoderForLife> I'd say I'm pretty good at DB opt. MySQL?
19:58 <PovAddict> I dumped it to a text backup, dropped the database, restored the backup
19:58 <PovAddict> 300MB data file
19:58 <PovAddict> that was one hell of a fragmentation!
19:58 <nickuwo> hehe
19:58 <nickuwo> I could try that
19:58 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: yes, MySQL, relevant tables using InnoDB
19:59 <nickuwo> should I put my DB on the Celeron 1.8 with 750MB or the P4 2.6 with 500MB?
19:59 <Tank_Master> the P4
19:59 <Tank_Master> its easier to get ram for that
19:59 <PovAddict> hmm not sure...
19:59 <CoderForLife> InnoDB - need transactional support?
20:00 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: I'm not sure what's the rationale for using InnoDB
20:00 <PovAddict> afaik the BOINC server doesn't use transactions
20:00 <wdsmia> you guys would sh$% if you had do that on my DB its at about 8TB right now
20:00 <PovAddict> (it sure should)
20:00 <PovAddict> lol wdsmia
20:00 <Tank_Master> that all?
20:01 <wdsmia> only half full :)
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20:01 * Tank_Master caries more than that in his pocket
20:01 <efc> moo
20:01 <efc> great, another fraud alert on the credit card, brb
20:01 <Tank_Master> haha
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20:01 <PovAddict> CoderForLife: doesn't look like an informed decision... "Supposedly this gives better performance."
20:02 <Tank_Master> love those comments
20:02 <wdsmia> Tank_Master thats only one of 3 DB's I admin
20:03 <Romulus> Title: InnoDB - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
20:05 <KathrynM> gotta hit the shower. time to get ready for w&@^
20:06 <Tank_Master> hf
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20:19 <granpa_paul> •nickuwo•
20:19 <nickuwo> ?
20:19 <granpa_paul> so you welcome to that pentium D
20:19 <granpa_paul> it's just sitting here on the shelf
20:20 <PovAddict> why don't you have it BOINCing?
20:20 <nickuwo> D930?
20:20 <granpa_paul> because I have 12 overclocked intel quads
20:20 <granpa_paul> it's not worth the electricity
20:21 <CoderForLife> off to relax a bit before bedtime - laterz
20:21 <granpa_paul> pretty sure it's a 930
20:21 <nickuwo> wow, that'd be great
20:21 <wdsmia> cya Don
20:21 <CoderForLife> speaking of not worth the electricity http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_5176_images/0923081404_M_peapod450.jpg
20:21 <PovAddict> what the eff
20:22 <CoderForLife> proposed new Chrysler electric car - the Peapod
20:22 <CoderForLife> enjoy
20:22 <CoderForLife> gn
20:23 <granpa_paul> i want my 15 seconds back
20:24 <nickuwo> you have a mobo as well?
20:24 <granpa_paul> so anyway, i'm paul from team starfire, who dumped a bunch of wu yesterday
20:24 <granpa_paul> yes
20:24 <nickuwo> oh :) hey paul
20:24 <granpa_paul> might can scrounge some memory somewhere
20:25 <granpa_paul> have to look
20:26 <Tank_Master> you bastard, paul, you
20:26 <Tank_Master> :P
20:26 <granpa_paul> yes?
20:26 <Romulus> It has been said that yes is enable, granpa_paul
20:26 * Tank_Master burns Romulus's house down
20:26 <granpa_paul> thanks you Romulus
20:27 <Tank_Master> Romulus?
20:27 <granpa_paul> get back over here
20:27 <PovAddict> &forget enable
20:27 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.
20:27 <PovAddict> &forget yes
20:27 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.
20:27 <PovAddict> Romulus: forget about yes
20:27 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no such factoid.
20:27 <Tank_Master> &forget it
20:27 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: There is no such factoid.
20:30 <Tank_Master> granpa_paul - does your 930d use ddr400 ram?
20:39 <nickuwo> &forget yourself
20:39 <Romulus> nickuwo: Error: There is no such factoid.
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20:40 <granpa_paul> ddr2
20:41 <Tank_Master> doh
20:41 <Tank_Master> I gots ddr
20:44 <granpa_paul> man i have a stack of ballistix, but i really have a lot of problems with that ram
20:45 <Tank_Master> ill take them :)
20:47 <granpa_paul> well i run them on blades until one day it wont' post, swap for something else, then they lay on the bench. i'll try them in another board a month later, they work. Then i gradually narrow ithem down to a set or two that just won't run on anything, and i'll rma them
20:48 <granpa_paul> i've done that 3 times
20:48 <granpa_paul> over the last 2 years
20:48 <nickuwo> perhaps I should "optimize table result" ?
20:50 <Tank_Master> or "get new comp"
20:51 <nickuwo> pretty sure that's not a mysql command :)
20:51 <Tank_Master> to bad
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20:56 <efc> another CC bites the dust
20:58 <Tank_Master> credit card?
20:58 <efc> yeah
20:58 <efc> third fraud problem on this one
20:58 <Tank_Master> who's was it?
20:58 <efc> HSBC
20:59 <Tank_Master> ouch man
20:59 <Tank_Master> wow
20:59 <Tank_Master> they suposed to be good
20:59 <efc> Then they give me the phone cavity search trying to confirm my identify
20:59 <efc> One time they sent me a replacement card and it was stolen before I got it. Figure that.
21:04 <efc> One thing it could be is those *(#%# courtesy checks they send all the time
21:04 <efc> I tear them up but possible I missed one
21:06 <efc> Also I don't like that they ask for your password on the phone
21:08 <efc> Interestingly I gave them the wrong one and they didn't say anything
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21:24 <nickuwo> &boincerr -1073741787
21:24 <Romulus> nickuwo: Error: I couldn't find -1073741787 in boincerr.
21:24 <nickuwo> coulda guessed that one :)
21:31 <Tank_Master> lol
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21:50 <PovAddict> nickuwo: "optimize table" doesn't do much with InnoDB
21:50 <PovAddict> &help hex
21:50 <Romulus> PovAddict: Error: There is no command "hex".
21:50 <Tank_Master> &help sex
21:50 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: There is no command "sex".
21:51 <Tank_Master> &help fetch, fido
21:51 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Error: There is no command "fetch, fido".
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22:27 <xcamel> you having fun?
22:28 <wdsmia> who?
22:39 <xcamel> tank_master playing..
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22:41 <granpa_paul> wth
22:41 <xcamel> only one bot here.
22:41 <granpa_paul> not a bot, sorry, meant to ask
22:43 <xcamel> sure looked like one...
22:43 <nickuwo> hmm
22:43 <granpa_paul> should have not used that nick
22:43 <xcamel> team starfire?
22:44 <granpa_paul> yeah
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22:44 <granpa_paul> i need to change the name if i meanander around to other channels
22:45 <xcamel> no problem.
22:45 <xcamel> allways welcome here..
22:45 <granpa_paul> but Fish was rlaying some info from here, so i joined
22:45 <granpa_paul> from main rig
22:46 <xcamel> boinc-centric, but we have our fun too..
22:47 <granpa_paul> cool, will hang around, thanks
22:48 <granpa_paul> someone has to reign int Tank_Master
22:48 <xcamel> laterz for me though..
22:48 <granpa_paul> in*
22:48 <granpa_paul> nighters
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