IRC logs of #boinc for Thursday, 2008-09-25

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01:00 <Romulus> <> (at

01:11 <efc> Nice

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01:40 <efc> $#$# banks are back to paying super crappy interest

01:40 <efc> if there's a credit crunch shouldn't they be fighting over who gets my money?

01:47 <bigt0242000> why should they fight when the government is just going to give it to them?

01:49 <efc> I don't really understand who's getting what but I do understand I'm getting less than inflation

01:50 <efc> "The Radeon HD 4870 1GB: The Card to Get" 1 gig on a video card, sheesh

01:50 <Tank_Master> heh

01:51 <Tank_Master> nevidia has a few cards with 1GB

01:51 <Tank_Master> not counting the buisness end

01:51 <Tank_Master> and apparently in a few months a 3xx series will be out with 2GB on the high end

01:52 <efc> They'll have their own hard drives soon

01:52 <bigt0242000> lol

01:52 <Tank_Master> id hate to be running 32bit OS with that

01:52 <Tank_Master> 2.5GB ram used up for system resources

01:52 <Tank_Master> leaving 1.5 for the OS and user apps

01:53 <efc> 64 bit windows is not a very exciting prospect..

01:53 <Tank_Master> why?

01:54 <Tank_Master> not only do you have more mem accessable, its more stable and performs better

01:54 <efc> it means vista or xp 64 (i guess you can still get that)

01:55 <bigt0242000> i'm going to skip vista altogether

01:55 <Tank_Master> or server 2003 x64 or server 2008 x64

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01:56 <Tank_Master> vista x64 is better than xp x64

01:56 <bigt0242000> moving to Vista would be like going to Win ME

01:56 <Tank_Master> heh

01:56 <Tank_Master> says who?

01:57 <Tank_Master> believe me, vista now is more stable than XP, and it also performs better

01:57 <Tank_Master> unless you *want* to run it on your amd 1.5GHz with 256mb ram

01:58 <bigt0242000> they make a version of windows for older PCs

01:58 <efc> It will probably run fine on a quad core with 4 gigs of ram, but really i'm not buying a box like that just so MS can spin the wheels running the GUI

01:58 <Tank_Master> the gui is ran on the vid card

01:58 <Tank_Master> part of why its more stable and performs better

01:58 <Tank_Master> the CPU isnt do as much

01:59 <bigt0242000> why not turn all that aero stuff off? wouldn't it use even less resources?

02:00 <Tank_Master> turning off aero revers back tot he XP interface

02:01 <Tank_Master> and uses the CPU again

02:01 <Tank_Master> so no, it uses more CPU

02:02 <efc> it sounds nice but dunno how it works out, the 2d gui has been using the video card acceleration since '94 or so

02:03 <Tank_Master> its accerated, but not ran soly on the video

02:04 <efc> you still have the CPU calling the shots, and its non-trivial running a D3D driver

02:05 <efc> i suspect it works out about the same (which is good i guess since the graphics ought to be a lot nicer)

02:05 <Tank_Master> they are

02:06 <Tank_Master> but they have also reworked some of the subsystem

02:06 <Tank_Master> the disk i/o is more effecent

02:06 <bigt0242000> either of you planning on getting one of the 6 core procs when they come out?

02:06 <Tank_Master> I can install BOINC in less than a sec

02:06 <Tank_Master> they already are out

02:07 <bigt0242000> lol

02:07 <Tank_Master> but they cost a min of $1,300 for one CPU

02:08 <bigt0242000> get a 4 proc mobo and fill it up and you would have your own mini supercomputer

02:09 <Tank_Master> lol

02:09 <Tank_Master> the multi way xrons support up to 16 CPUs per board

02:10 <bigt0242000> o_O

02:10 <Tank_Master> thats 92 cores or soemthing like that

02:10 <efc> Yeah, though those are going to cost you more than 16 regular boxes..

02:10 <Tank_Master> lol

02:10 <Tank_Master> to true

02:10 <Tank_Master> but you get bragging rights

02:11 <efc> i guess cheaper to manage or something, only reason a business would get them

02:11 <Tank_Master> smaller floor footprint

02:11 <bigt0242000> maybe if we get enough boxes kinda like that maybe more projects would start writing multi-threaded apps

02:11 <Tank_Master> and lower power cost

02:11 <bigt0242000> lower?

02:11 <Tank_Master> BOINC dosent use support multithreaded apps

02:12 <Tank_Master> its cheeper to run 16 CPUS on you system then 16 indivisual comps

02:13 <Tank_Master> the support for multithreaded apps are on the list of future upgrades

02:13 <bigt0242000> what size psu would you have to use to handle that many cpus, and high end gfx card and the new sata drives?

02:14 <Tank_Master> they make 1.5Kw PS

02:14 <Tank_Master> sata drives done take any more pwoer than ide

02:14 <bigt0242000> i guess that could handle it

02:19 <efc> 16 CPUs would be more than that..

02:19 <efc> 95 watts TDP each or something like that

02:19 <Tank_Master> actually I think the xeons are more

02:23 <Tidus> yeah the xeons run like 110-120watt TDP

02:25 * efc tosses another log on the server

02:25 <bigt0242000> lol

02:29 <efc> we got a couple of giant servers at work. Purpose: serve files for 25 computers...

02:30 <bigt0242000> couldn't that be done just as easy on a desktop pc?

02:31 <efc> it was slow so they thought they needed something bigger so now they have a dual xeon or something like that

02:31 <bigt0242000> whatever floats their boat i guess

02:32 <Tank_Master> probably just needed defraging

02:32 <efc> and they got two of them (one is a 'backup')

02:32 <Tidus> hot spare? lol

02:32 <bigt0242000> a desktop running linux would have done the job

02:33 <efc> they are probably like 2 kw apiece

02:39 <bigt0242000> later guys

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02:40 <efc> Night

02:41 <Tank_Master> gn

02:42 <Tidus> who is the mac master in here?

02:43 <efc> Hello, I'm a PC!

02:43 <Tidus> and i'm a pc posing as a mac

02:44 * efc pulls out a sawed-off shotgun


02:45 * Tank_Master slaps Tidus around with a pink Macintosh

02:45 <Tank_Master> I do love the handle on the macs

02:46 <Tank_Master> makes it esier to slap people with

02:46 <Tidus> last real mac i had was a bondi-blue imac g3

02:47 <efc> I would like to see a version of the PC-Mac commercials where the Gates-lookalike pulls a piece on the mac guy, takes him down and pumps a few more rounds in for good measure

02:48 <efc> I just think that would be entertaining, thats all

02:48 <Tidus> in all reailty the only reason i'm drawn to the mac os is because of its bsd underpinnings

02:48 <efc> still having problems with Boinc on it?

02:48 <Tidus> yeah

02:49 <Tidus> it doesn't wanna talk on the internet at all, but EVERY OTHER internet enabled application on it works just fine

02:49 <efc> Hmm

02:49 <ELGono> sounds wierd

02:49 <Tank_Master> I keep hearing that vista uses bsd under the hood to

02:49 <Tank_Master> but I have a hard time believing that

02:49 <ELGono> morning dudes

02:50 <Tank_Master> night ELGono

02:50 <efc> virtualized BSD machine dedicated to running the start bar

02:54 <efc> Looked at the Mac Q/A forums?

02:56 <Tidus> haven't tried those

02:56 <efc>

02:56 <Romulus> <> (at

02:56 <efc> don't see anything that answers your question right off

02:57 <efc> You can try asking, they'll probably help

02:57 <efc> They'll be so happy that there's a 3rd Mac user!

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04:10 <Tidus> efc: even the command line version refuses to go

04:11 <Tidus> it's tossing out "Error: Can't resolve hostname."

04:11 <Tidus> yet every single other internet enabled app on this thing works

04:11 <Tidus> and can resolve those hostnames just fine

04:11 <Tidus> even the lowly ping command reads the ip address and starts pinging

04:12 <BadBarbarian> maybe the servers down ?

04:12 <efc> Hm

04:12 <Tidus> BadBarbarian: no, because i can access the website

04:13 <BadBarbarian> juat a thought lol

04:13 <efc> is there an error number provided with that?

04:14 <Tidus> dunno

04:14 <Tidus> done closed the window and deleted it

04:14 <efc> i see somebody else with a similar problem

04:14 <efc> no answers..

04:15 <efc> ah, that one is different, his machine can't see the servers

04:16 <Tidus> mine can go to the project webpages but can't attach to them thru boinc

04:17 <efc> error something like

04:17 <efc> 2004-08-18 04:45:01 [---] Can't resolve hostname

04:17 <efc>                           (host not found or server failure)

04:18 <Tidus> yeah like that

04:18 <BadBarbarian> the servers down lol

04:18 <efc> page suggests detatching from project

04:19 <BadBarbarian> that dont mean that you cant get on the site witch is a diff server

04:19 <BadBarbarian> what project ?

04:19 <Romulus> hmm... what project are we talking about, BadBarbarian

04:20 <BadBarbarian> lol romys reading my mind

04:22 <efc> the complete error log would help

04:22 <efc> at least the part where it starts bombing out

04:23 <Tidus> i've done removed it from this computer

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04:28 <efc> usually if the project site it down it will then say 'access to reference site succeeded, project servers may be down'

04:28 <efc> i have to get to bed. Try asking on the Q/A and see if they can get ayou anywhere..

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05:00 <Romulus> <> (at

05:06 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

05:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 55.7F / 13.2C | Humidity: 73% | Pressure: 30.21in / 1022.9hPa (Steady) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Today - Sunny. Highs in the lower 80s. Northeast winds around 5 mph...increasing to 10 to 15 mph this afternoon.; Tonight - Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 50s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph...diminishing to around 5 mph after (1 more message)

05:06 <CoderForLife> &more

05:06 <Romulus> CoderForLife: midnight.; Friday - Partly sunny. A slight chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the upper 70s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. Chance of rain 20 percent.;

05:12 <CoderForLife> brb  breakfast

05:25 <CoderForLife> b

05:27 <KathrynM> evening mr. CoderForLife

05:27 <CoderForLife> heya KathrynM

05:27 <CoderForLife> when did you get back to SK?

05:28 <KathrynM> Monday night

05:28 <CoderForLife> ah  I was in Dallas on Monday

05:28 <CoderForLife> and Tuesday

05:29 <CoderForLife> meeting with a local landscaper today

05:29 <CoderForLife> going to talk about things like "grass"

05:30 <CoderForLife> and "money"

05:30 <KathrynM> both green

05:31 <CoderForLife> one is easier to produce than the other

05:31 <KathrynM> true

05:31 <KathrynM> hmmm... someone has a strange sense of humor...

05:31 <KathrynM> checking whether 'ln -s' really works or whether I'm deluding myself... it works

05:31 <KathrynM> lol

05:34 <CoderForLife> geek humor  =)

05:34 <KathrynM> lol

05:39 * CoderForLife stops reading the news

05:40 <CoderForLife> the world has gone nuts

05:40 <KathrynM> no surprise there

05:40 <CoderForLife> time to get ready for w@#%, while I still have a job to go to

05:41 <CoderForLife> bbiab

05:45 <xcamel> 'lo

05:51 <KathrynM> shouldn't a nice value of 0 trump a nice value of 19?

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06:20 <CoderForLife> back

06:21 <CoderForLife> nice 0?

06:21 <CoderForLife> I would guess that would mean "don't ever run"

06:21 <CoderForLife> heh

06:22 <CoderForLife> or run this process in the south of France

06:22 <KathrynM> lol

06:23 <CoderForLife> -20 is the highest and 19 is the lowest

06:23 <KathrynM> firefox was behaving weirdly while compiling and boinc-ing

06:23 <CoderForLife> as if *that* makes any sense

06:24 <KathrynM> lol

06:25 <hawmps> 'lo K

06:25 <hawmps> and Don

06:25 <CoderForLife> morning Jay

06:25 <KathrynM> seemed like the science apps were getting a higher priority than ff and wahtever the compiler process was

06:26 <CoderForLife> they should be running at 19

06:26 <CoderForLife> well, I need to pick up my coal shovel and step back into the w@#% blast furnace

06:27 <CoderForLife> cya KathrynM

06:27 <hawmps> porkfry >>

06:27 <CoderForLife> cya hawmps

06:27 <KathrynM> laterz

06:27 * CoderForLife stops for a second to make bacon

06:27 <CoderForLife> sizzled - thanks

06:27 <CoderForLife> tc all

06:27 <CoderForLife> laterz

06:28 <hawmps> wsj "Countrywide Made Home Loans to Gorelick, Mudd"

06:28 <hawmps> go figure

06:35 <ELGono> morning again

06:35 <ELGono> &weather meiningen,germany

06:35 <Romulus> ELGono: Temperature: 48°F / 9°C | Humidity: 92% | Pressure: 30.39in / 1029hPa | Conditions: Mist | Wind Direction: NNE | Wind Speed: 13mph / 22km/h | Updated: 12:00 PM CEST; Partly Cloudy. High:51 F. / 11 C.; Partly Cloudy. Low:44 F. / 7 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:59 F. / 15 C.; Clear. Low:41 F. / 5 C.; Clear. High:60 F. / 16 C.; Clear. Low:42 F. / 6 C.;

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06:58 <Romulus> <> (at

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07:07 <hawmps> what a pest..

07:07 <hawmps> 'lo ElG

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09:13 <KathrynM> wtf...  I can't ping google?

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09:13 <KathrynM> double wtf...  I can't even load it in a browser

09:19 <ELGono> try ;)

09:19 <ELGono> it still exists ;)

09:20 <KathrynM> lol

09:20 <KathrynM> right after I said it, google descided to load

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10:35 <KathrynM> oh booger!  I forgot I have to go into w*@& early tomorrow for a meeting.  crap.  I should have gone to bed an hour ago.

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14:10 <KathrynM> ugh.  I swear there's a ghost in my keyboard.  Keys randomly stick and   I end up with tttttttttthings <---- like that

14:11 <PovAdct_w> that's not a ghost

14:11 <PovAdct_w> that's dirt in the keys

14:11 <KathrynM> lol

14:11 <PovAdct_w> making them stuck

14:11 <KathrynM> whacha saying about my laptop :-)

14:11 <KathrynM> It didn't do that before I went home

14:11 <Tank_Master> gee, and I thought it was from all that porn he watched

14:11 <PovAdct_w> ah laptop...

14:12 * PovAdct_w slaps Tank_Master with his keyboard

14:12 <desti> put it in the dishwasher....

14:12 <MTughan> lol

14:12 <PovAdct_w> desti: I was going to suggest that

14:12 <KathrynM> what's thattt?

14:12 <PovAdct_w> but

14:12 <PovAdct_w> it's a laptop

14:12 <KathrynM> I don't have a dishwasher

14:12 <KathrynM> I have a sink, a sponge, dishsoap and a towel

14:12 <KathrynM> :-)

14:12 <Tank_Master> lol

14:12 <MTughan> KathrynM: Screwdriver oughta work for prying keys off.

14:12 <PovAdct_w> a keyboard on a dishwasher will probably get clean (may need a few days of drying)

14:12 <PovAdct_w> but a laptop... that won't work nicely

14:13 <PovAdct_w> I mean, sure, will get clean; but will it boot afterwards?

14:13 <Tank_Master> Ive used a brush in soap n water

14:13 <KathrynM> lol

14:13 <MTughan> Actually, Pov has a point... As long as it doesn't melt the plastic of the KB.

14:13 <KathrynM> I've been meaning to look up the service manual for the thing

14:13 <Tank_Master> rince it off and let it set for a fre hrs

14:14 <PovAdct_w> MTughan: do some web searches... somebody tried it, blogged about it, got digg'd, and thousands of people went and tried it :P

14:14 <PovAdct_w> now there's even a keyboard manufacturer advertising their "dishwasher-safe keyboards"...

14:14 <MTughan> So it does work?

14:14 <KathrynM> I've seen the whole pop the keyboard in the dishwasher thing

14:14 <KathrynM> I think my brother did it once

14:14 <MTughan> Because there usually isn't a power source in a KB, it gets power from the comp.

14:14 <KathrynM> but alas, I lack the keyboard and the dishwasher

14:15 <BadBarbarian> Hi ya kat long time no see

14:15 <KathrynM> traveling the world

14:15 <BadBarbarian> where are you now ?

14:16 <KathrynM> back in Korea

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14:16 <BadBarbarian> i leave for singapore next month

14:17 <Tank_Master> nice

14:17 <Tank_Master> going to sing to the poor?

14:17 * PovAdct_w slaps Tank_Master with his keyboard, again

14:17 <KathrynM> Going to a wedding on Sunday.

14:17 * Tank_Master throws a keyboard at PovAdct_w

14:17 <BadBarbarian> doing Nam too

14:17 * PovAdct_w ducks

14:17 <MTughan> PovAdct_w: Try and break his keyboard.

14:17 <KathrynM> A co-worker is getting married

14:18 <KathrynM> I've heard Korean weddings are interresting affairs

14:18 * PovAdct_w throws a chair at Tank_Master

14:18 <KathrynM> children!

14:18 <MTughan> lol... Kathy and BB are discussing plans for trips which Pov and TM beat each other up.

14:18 <KathrynM> don't make me put on the teacher hat

14:18 <MTughan> while*

14:18 * Tank_Master slaps KathrynM around with a pink Macintosh

14:18 <MTughan> lol

14:18 <KathrynM> my grad advisor had one of the first blueberry iMacs

14:18 <PovAdct_w> now what did Kathryn do?

14:18 <KathrynM> that thing was fugly

14:19 * MTughan hurts the pink Macintosh with an extra large axe

14:19 <Tank_Master> she threaned to be mature

14:19 <MTughan> Ah, /slap, not /insult.

14:19 * BadBarbarian slaps Tank_Master with a rainbow trout

14:19 <PovAdct_w> wtf

14:19 * Tank_Master slaps BadBarbarian with a pigfish

14:19 <KathrynM> there's a /slap and an /insult command?

14:19 * PovAdct_w slaps BadBarbarian, grabs the trout, and puts it to cook

14:19 <KathrynM> lol

14:19 <MTughan> I made the /slap command on my machine.

14:19 <PovAdct_w> KathrynM: he has a custom command for that :)

14:20 <MTughan> However...

14:20 <PovAdct_w> mmm trout

14:20 <KathrynM> you people are amazing

14:20 <MTughan> &insult the pink Macintosh

14:20 <Romulus> the pink Macintosh - You are nothing but an inferior quart of folly-fallen IPC.

14:20 * BadBarbarian slaps PovAddict with a big red brick

14:20 <MTughan> Rommie has &insult.

14:20 <Tank_Master> LOL

14:20 <KathrynM> &insult KathrynM

14:20 <Romulus> KathrynM - You are nothing but a spam-sucking thimbleful of dread-bolted buzzard.

14:20 * PovAdct_w hits BadBarbarian with a CRT monitor showing a big Red Hat login screen

14:20 <KathrynM> lol

14:20 <Tank_Master> &insult red brick

14:20 <Romulus> red brick - You are nothing but an unmuzzled coagulation of infected yoo-hoo.

14:20 <MTughan> Now I have a linear algebra test to take before this turns into an all-out brawl... See you.

14:21 <KathrynM> laters MTughan

14:21 <Tank_Master> tc mt

14:21 * PovAdct_w hits MTughan with a square root

14:21 <MTughan> Matrices, you dolt...

14:21 <KathrynM> oye

14:21 <KathrynM> that hurts

14:21 <PovAdct_w> ...and a few complex numbers

14:21 <MTughan> :P

14:21 <KathrynM> Thank god I never went past calc in uni

14:21 <MTughan> Bye.

14:22 <KathrynM> My brother asked me why I don't go back to get a CS degree.

14:22 <MTughan> Well, engineering will do this... Really gone.

14:22 <PovAdct_w> complex numbers made my head asplode

14:22 <KathrynM> I told him I'd never be able to pass the math

14:22 <KathrynM> You should have seen the psych majors I tutored in stats.  Looking at the formulas made their heads asplode

14:23 <KathrynM> stats was a breeze for me.

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15:10 <yoyo[RKN]> moin

15:11 <bigt0242000> hey

15:11 <Tidus> howdy

15:12 <Tank_Master> yoyoyo

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16:03 <xcamel> 'lo

16:05 <Tank_Master> hi

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16:51 <PovIpod> Wow this IRC client is unbelievably crap!

16:51 <PovIpod> &ping

16:51 <Romulus> pong

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17:21 <wdsmia> re-hi

17:21 <Tank_Master> wb

17:22 <MTughan_> 'lo Doug

17:27 <xcamel> well... the rock/root bucket works....

17:27 <xcamel> whatta dustcloud...

17:27 <MTughan_> lol

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17:28 <MTughan_> 'lo BB_

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17:29 <MTughan_> Or not...

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17:34 <Tank_Master> lol

17:39 <xcamel> harrumpf

17:42 <Tank_Master> ?

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17:46 <MTughan_> Bye...

17:46 <MTughan_> Servers!

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17:51 <CoderForLife> hello

17:51 <bigt0242000> hey

17:52 <CoderForLife> hello bigt0242000

17:52 <bigt0242000> how are you?

17:52 <CoderForLife> OK - nice weather

17:52 <Tank_Master> tiz cloudy here

17:53 <CoderForLife> &wx 45140

17:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: Temperature: 79.8F / 26.6C | Humidity: 34% | Pressure: 30.12in / 1019.9hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: East | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Clear. Lows in the lower 50s. Northeast winds around 5 mph.; Friday - Partly sunny. Highs in the upper 70s. Northeast winds 10 to 15 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of rain. Lows in the (1 more message)

17:53 <bigt0242000> nice here

17:53 <CoderForLife> &more

17:53 <Romulus> CoderForLife: mid 50s. Northeast winds 5 to 10 mph.;

17:53 <bigt0242000> &wx 30173

17:53 <Romulus> bigt0242000: Temperature: 84.1F / 28.9C | Humidity: 23% | Pressure: 30.09in / 1018.8hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: WNW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Partly cloudy. Lows in the lower 50s. North winds 5 to 15 mph.; Friday - Mostly sunny in the morning...then partly sunny with a 20 percent chance of showers in the afternoon. Highs in the mid 70s. North winds 10 to (1 more message)

17:53 <bigt0242000> &more

17:53 <Romulus> bigt0242000: 20 mph.; Friday Night - Mostly cloudy with a 20 percent chance of showers. Lows in the upper 50s. North winds up to 10 mph.; Fire Weather Warning for Floyd County in effect until 7:00 PM EDT on September 25, 2008;

17:54 <bigt0242000> lol fire weather

17:54 <Tank_Master> &wx 97123

17:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: Temperature: 64.4F / 18.0C | Humidity: 58% | Pressure: 29.85in / 1010.7hPa (Falling) | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: WSW | Wind Speed: 0.0mph / 0.0km/h ; Tonight - Mostly cloudy this evening...becoming partly cloudy. Lows 45 to 55. Southwest wind 10 mph in the evening becoming light.; Friday - Partly sunny. Patchy fog in the morning. Highs around 75. Light wind (1 more message)

17:54 <Tank_Master> &more

17:54 <Romulus> Tank_Master: becoming northwest 10 mph in the afternoon.; Friday Night - Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 40s to lower 50s. West wind 10 mph.;

17:57 <bigt0242000> I'm guessing everybody is having problems with sztaki wus?

17:58 <CoderForLife> not if you don't do that project =)

17:58 <bigt0242000> lol

17:59 <bigt0242000> I have one that's ran for a day and a half and its only at 75%

17:59 <KathrynM> &wx Ulsan

17:59 <Romulus> KathrynM: Temperature: 66°F / 19°C | Humidity: 65% | Pressure: 29.82in / 1010hPa | Conditions: Mostly Cloudy | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 6mph / 9km/h | Updated: 6:00 AM KST; Partly Cloudy. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:62 F. / 17 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Scattered Clouds. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Scattered Clouds. High:71 F. / 22 C.; Partly (1 more message)

17:59 <bigt0242000> est remaining runtime of 8hrs

17:59 <CoderForLife> evening KathrynM

17:59 <bigt0242000> hi KathrynM

18:01 <Tank_Master> KM!

18:01 <KathrynM> mornng all

18:01 <Tank_Master> afternoon

18:01 <KathrynM> TGIF

18:01 <Tank_Master> no it aint

18:01 <bigt0242000> i wish

18:01 <Tank_Master> tiz thursday, silly

18:02 <KathrynM> Nope, definitely Friday on this side of the globe

18:03 <KathrynM> S5R3 finally finished at E@H

18:03 <KathrynM> Got an email on the mod list there overnight

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18:08 <Tank_Master> nice

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18:24 <Romulus> New news from boinc: BOINC news September 25, 2008 ~~ BOINC news September 25, 2008

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18:59 <CoderForLife> taking the night off

18:59 <CoderForLife> cya folks

18:59 <KathrynM> night

19:00 <Tank_Master> gn clf

19:00 <Tank_Master> cfl*

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19:33 <xcamel> re-back

19:34 <efc> moo

19:34 <xcamel> 'lo Ed

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20:30 <xcamel> anyone still up?

20:30 <PovAddict> seems to be darn quiet

20:30 <bigt0242000> I'm alive and kickin'

20:30 <xcamel> pov - see if you can send me an email...

20:31 <xcamel> still got the addy?

20:31 <PovAddict> I probably do, hold on

20:31 <xcamel> roadrunner is a pest..

20:31 <bigt0242000> lol

20:31 <xcamel> because my dns changed now

20:32 <bigt0242000> what changed?

20:32 <xcamel> old ip to new ip

20:33 <bigt0242000> i wouldn't think that would cause problems

20:33 <xcamel> still working through the bugs

20:33 <bigt0242000> unless your running a server

20:33 <PovAddict> yes he's running his own mailserver

20:33 <xcamel> bingo. a couple of them..

20:33 <PovAddict> and webserver, and...

20:33 <bigt0242000> lol

20:34 <xcamel> mail server

20:34 <xcamel> and...

20:34 <xcamel> and...

20:34 <bigt0242000> static ip i suppose?

20:34 <xcamel> uh-huh

20:34 <PovAddict> static ip means the ip doesn't change... until it does

20:35 <bigt0242000> yuck. dns propagation.

20:35 <xcamel> dns changes were through internic

20:35 <xcamel> (worldnic)

20:37 <PovAddict> []

20:37 <PovAddict> is that the right IP?

20:41 <bigt0242000> can't get to it

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20:55 <xcamel> it is now.. but there is still a problem

20:55 <PovAddict> HTTP doesn't work

20:55 <xcamel> no kidding..

20:55 <PovAddict> I sent the test email btw

20:56 <xcamel> didn't get that either

21:06 <bigt0242000> what's the ip now?

21:13 <xcamel> might work now..

21:14 <bigt0242000> have an ip?

21:15 <bigt0242000> dns still hasn't caught up

21:21 <xcamel>

21:24 <bigt0242000> port 80? or 8080?

21:26 <xcamel> 80

21:26 <xcamel> standard

21:26 <bigt0242000> nope cant get to it

21:26 <xcamel> thanks..

21:26 <xcamel> need the firewall tech

21:26 <xcamel> maybe tomorrow.

21:27 <bigt0242000> firewall running on the same server?

21:27 <xcamel> no pix hardware

21:27 <xcamel> don't worry about it

21:28 <bigt0242000> cisco pix end of life isn't it?

21:28 <xcamel> yup

21:29 <bigt0242000> planning on upgrading anytime soon?

21:31 <xcamel> dunno

21:31 <bigt0242000> if you were i have a recommendation for you

21:32 <xcamel> been through sonicwall, juniper, and now cisco..

21:32 <xcamel> which one?

21:32 <Romulus> I guess which one is giving you headaches, xcamel

21:33 <xcamel> true, Romy.

21:33 <bigt0242000> what about astaro?

21:33 <bigt0242000> lol

21:33 <xcamel> never seen one

21:33 <PovAddict> lol @ Romulus

21:34 <bigt0242000> astaro?

21:34 <bigt0242000>

21:34 <Romulus> Title: Astaro Internet Security - All-in-One Unified Threat Management Solutions for Complete Net!@#&, Web and Mail Security Protecting Against Hackers, Spyware, Phishing, Viruses, Worms and Spam (at

21:34 <PovAddict> heh

21:34 <PovAddict> where did you hear about it, bigt?

21:35 <bigt0242000> about the size of a small home router

21:35 <bigt0242000> Security NOW podcast

21:35 <PovAddict> :)

21:35 <bigt0242000> you listen too?

21:36 <PovAddict> used to

21:37 <bigt0242000> they had some very intresting stuff on a couple of months ago about Phorum, Nebuads, and the like

21:37 <bigt0242000> some nasty stuff

21:37 <xcamel> looking at astaro

21:38 <xcamel> the little 110/120 is all I need...

21:38 <bigt0242000> one did a 3 or 4 part 30x redirect and the other injected js

21:39 <bigt0242000> they have a discount for pix users

21:39 <PovAddict> bigt0242000: can you find that one podcast?

21:39 <bigt0242000> its about 4 of 5 of them

21:39 <PovAddict> about that topic?

21:39 <bigt0242000> lol yeah

21:40 <PovAddict> wow nice

21:40 <bigt0242000> and they did 2 or 3 about the dns flaw

21:42 <xcamel> 20% off, eh?

21:42 <xcamel> oh crap..

21:43 <bigt0242000> phorum is ep 149 to 154, dns flaw is ep 155 to 158

21:43 <xcamel> ended 08/01/08

21:43 <bigt0242000> aw

21:43 <bigt0242000> i'm sure if you called them up and mentioned the security now podcast they might give it to you any ways

21:44 <bigt0242000> PovAddict:

21:44 <Romulus> Title: The TWiT Netcast Net!@#& with Leo Laporte (at

21:45 <Tank_Master> the 700 billion dollar bailout failed

21:45 <bigt0242000> and JP Morgan Chase now owns WaMu

21:46 <Tank_Master> oh, grea

21:46 <Tank_Master> t

21:46 <xcamel> that was a good buy

21:46 * Tank_Master has mapoo

21:46 <bigt0242000> PovAddict: or if you feel like reading, the transcripts are here.

21:46 <Romulus> Title: GRC | Security Now! | Featuring episode #162 (at

21:47 <bigt0242000> xcamel: what?

21:47 <PovAddict> I need better headphones

21:47 <bigt0242000> lol

21:47 <PovAddict> so I can listen while I go to w$%&

21:47 <bigt0242000> i burned the podcast to a cd and listened to them in the car

21:47 <xcamel> JPMC buying WaMu

21:48 <bigt0242000> not really

21:48 <xcamel> yeah, it was.

21:48 <bigt0242000> taking on all that bad debit?

21:49 <PovAddict> you don't argue with xcamel, bigt0242000

21:49 <bigt0242000> lol y not?

21:50 <xcamel> it's not all bad...

21:50 <xcamel> the media has blown this up to a grand panic

21:50 <xcamel> which it isn't.

21:50 <Tank_Master> its what the media does

21:51 <bigt0242000> yep

21:51 <Tank_Master> esp with a republican as pres

21:51 <bigt0242000> this started long before bush was in the whitehouse

21:51 <Tank_Master> true

21:51 <bigt0242000> xcamel:

21:51 <Tank_Master> but its gotten worse

21:51 <Romulus> <> (at

21:52 <bigt0242000> all this started in the 90s

21:53 <bigt0242000>

21:53 <Romulus> Title: What Went Wrong? – The Only Explanation You’ll Ever Need To Read - Tomorrows Playbook - (at

22:03 <xcamel> laterz..

22:07 <Tank_Master> tc

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22:21 <bigt0242000> woohoo USC getting beat

22:22 <Tank_Master> lol

22:23 <bigt0242000> you watching?

22:23 <Tank_Master> hexk no

22:23 <bigt0242000> y not

22:23 <Tank_Master> im reorging mey room

22:24 <Tank_Master> and downloading songs

22:24 <bigt0242000> USC 0 OSU 14

22:24 <Tank_Master> or, or oh?

22:25 <Tank_Master> for the osu

22:27 <bigt0242000> USC 0 - OSU 21

22:28 <bigt0242000> 4 secs left in the 2nd qtr

22:28 <Tank_Master> which osu is it?

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22:28 <bigt0242000> oregon st

22:29 <bigt0242000> unranked

22:29 <Tank_Master> ahh

22:29 <Tank_Master> then Im suposed to be rooting for them :P

22:29 <Tank_Master> im from OR

22:29 <bigt0242000> lol

22:30 <bigt0242000> im rooting from them because they're beating usc

22:30 <Tank_Master> lol

22:30 <bigt0242000> if they can keep it up usc should drop like a rock in the bcs standing

22:31 <bigt0242000> UGA should be ranked #1

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22:35 <bigt0242000> wb BB

22:40 <bigt0242000> am i the only one watching the trojans/beavers game?

22:44 <Tank_Master> probably

22:44 <Tank_Master> I dont care to see beavers playing with condems

22:44 <bigt0242000> lol

22:46 <bigt0242000> not even if they're playing football?

23:08 <Tank_Master> I dont see the point of a game where a bunch of guys dress all decked out in foam and plastic just to run for 15 second then stand around for 15 min and repeate

23:08 <Tank_Master> :P

23:09 <bigt0242000> lol

23:09 <bigt0242000> what sports do you watch?

23:09 <Tank_Master> ones Im playing

23:09 <bigt0242000> USC scored

23:09 <Tank_Master> UT3

23:09 <bigt0242000> lol

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23:09 <Tank_Master> Id rather watch scifi

23:10 <bigt0242000> Stargate?

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23:10 <Tank_Master> startrek, sg, sga, batlestar...

23:10 <Tank_Master> yeah, most of that type I like

23:12 <bigt0242000> i dont care much about battlestar

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23:13 <Tank_Master> ahh

23:14 <Tank_Master> its got great cgi

23:14 <Tank_Master> but yeah, its storyline is somewhat weak and defently hard to follow

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23:28 <quail> &wx ypad

23:28 <Romulus> quail: Temperature: 79°F / 26°C | Humidity: 13% | Pressure: 30.04in / 1017hPa | Conditions: Clear | Wind Direction: NNW | Wind Speed: 20mph / 32km/h | Updated: 12:30 PM CST; Clear. High:75 F. / 24 C.; Clear. Low:50 F. / 10 C.; Clear. High:80 F. / 27 C.; Clear. Low:51 F. / 11 C.; Clear. High:82 F. / 28 C.; Clear. Low:57 F. / 14 C.;

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